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[VomKriege]

I suppose the situation is more complicated given that China is involved (China doesn’t do genocide on its own ). They bitching about ultra nationalist Japanese are complaining about foreigners about the assassination when China’s Weibo were celebrating.

Doesn’t mean the guy was not corrupt scum, but people seem only know him for war crime denialism. And for that world leaders should shit on him in his dead bed.

To be fair it ties neatly into Abe being a lot more aggressive on military posture and the longstanding issue of Japan's self denial about WW2. My layman's understanding is that the corruption is par for the course for a functionally one party state.

[Tuckers Law]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-japanese-prime-minister-shinzo-abe-shot-in-the-back-in-nara-city-suspect-arrested-up-abe-confirmed-dead-see-staff-post.605334/page-24#post-89708277

Ultranationalists should be shotgunned to death

Abe sucked and ultranationalists are scum of the Earth, but how is this not a complete endorsement of a political assassination in a safe, developed nation?  The kind of thing that can get the site on a watchlist.

People over there need to chill.

They’re already on a few watchlists I imagine

The kind of stuff they post and the amount of gleeful snitches on Reee, no way that forum isn't on multiple agency watchlists by now.

[Boredfrom]

I suppose the situation is more complicated given that China is involved (China doesn’t do genocide on its own ). They bitching about ultra nationalist Japanese are complaining about foreigners about the assassination when China’s Weibo were celebrating.

Doesn’t mean the guy was not corrupt scum, but people seem only know him for war crime denialism. And for that world leaders should shit on him in his dead bed.

To be fair it ties neatly into Abe being a lot more aggressive on military posture and the longstanding issue of Japan's self denial about WW2. My layman's understanding is that the corruption is par for the course for a functionally one party state.

Totally is, unfortunately. See: my country during most of the post revolution years.

Then again, here you were going to get you and your family killed by exposing political corruption (now is mostly for exposing Narcos ) while it sounds you are just lepered  or kicked of your college in Japan.

[benjipwns]

I’m sure is frustrating that the media is white washing the guy (not that was unexpected, specially in Japan). But why discuss his political legacy in a way that, while critical, doesn’t sound unhinged or stupid.

They only understand binaries. You are either perfect or you are solely evil. As Abe was imperfect you must denounce all of Abe's crimes in totality including those of his ancestors since the Sun rose and all potential crimes that Abe's purely evil existence could lead to forever more. Why are we denouncing a man for simply being an agent to the forces of history that dominate and determine all things which he had no say in and was doomed to perpetuate? DON'T DOWNPLAY ABE'S CRIMES! THAT MAKES YOU COMPLICIT!

Man is forever born into the sins of his fathers and cannot appropriately repent leaving a permanent stain on his descendants. We are the progressives on the right side of history leading mankind to perfection. Amen. Inshallah.

[Boredfrom]

I mean, at the end Abe is a murderer with a much higher body count, so the amounts of shits I give are remarkably little.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-japanese-prime-minister-shinzo-abe-shot-in-the-back-in-nara-city-suspect-arrested-up-abe-confirmed-dead-see-staff-post.605334/page-25#post-89715087

Source: My uncle from Nintendo.

WTF YOU ARE SAYING.

That is a fucking first.

[benjipwns]

The fact that people are normalizing a political assassination in this thread shows just how terribly the internet has poisoned political discourse.

Did I agree to any of Abes policies? Hell nah, but that doesn't change the fact that an assassination of a democratically elected PM is just as much of an attack on democracy as January 6th.

It would be one thing if Japan was some authoritarian state with no representation, but this whole attack is completely anti-democratic in nature and should not be rejoiced by anyone who values basic democracy (which obviously would not include China or its sympathizers.)

Definitely not racist that you got a shot in at China while asking us to mourn a racist nationalist.

[Pissy F Benny]

Idk grave dancing some politician from a country thousands of miles away that you don't live in seems kind of wack lads

[Boredfrom]

Mekanos love his genocide deniers only if they are communists.

[Pissy F Benny]

Hot theory:spending so much time online and shunning personal interactions may lead to a loss of humanity

[benjipwns]

Idk grave dancing some politician from a country thousands of miles away that you don't live in seems kind of wack lads

Not surprised you wouldn't understand the necessity of solidarity in the global struggle.

[Boredfrom]

Idk grave dancing some politician from a country thousands of miles away that you don't live in seems kind of wack lads

How much do you think that Mekanos has invested in Super Sentai and Pretty Cure merch? 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-japanese-prime-minister-shinzo-abe-shot-in-the-back-in-nara-city-suspect-arrested-up-abe-confirmed-dead-see-staff-post.605334/page-24#post-89708277

Ultranationalists should be shotgunned to death

Abe sucked and ultranationalists are scum of the Earth, but how is this not a complete endorsement of a political assassination in a safe, developed nation?  The kind of thing that can get the site on a watchlist.

People over there need to chill.

User Banned (2 months): advocating murder

Advocating murder = 2 months 

Now if he had said that he likes the designs in xenoblade 2, that wouldn't stand

They're watching this thread cuz now

User Banned (duration pending): advocating murder

[HaughtyFrank]

I mean, at the end Abe is a murderer with a much higher body count, so the amounts of shits I give are remarkably little.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-japanese-prime-minister-shinzo-abe-shot-in-the-back-in-nara-city-suspect-arrested-up-abe-confirmed-dead-see-staff-post.605334/page-25#post-89715087

Source: My uncle from Nintendo.

WTF YOU ARE SAYING.

That is a fucking first.

I have two guesses. Either he's dense as fuck and confuses Abe with Xi, or he's a complete moron and thinks Abe committed the WW2 war crimes

[benjipwns]

I have two guesses. Either he's dense as fuck and confuses Abe with Xi, or he's a complete moron and thinks Abe committed the WW2 war crimes

Denying the crimes forces the victims to suffer them all over again which compounds with each denial. The literal blood on Abe's literal hands is incalculable.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Some idiot in that thread argued that maybe was a false flag operation from his own party. I can see it, the one ruling party is going to kill their most influential and powerful politician in the middle of election season because… reasons

It's just like in my anime!

[Boredfrom]

I mean, at the end Abe is a murderer with a much higher body count, so the amounts of shits I give are remarkably little.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-japanese-prime-minister-shinzo-abe-shot-in-the-back-in-nara-city-suspect-arrested-up-abe-confirmed-dead-see-staff-post.605334/page-25#post-89715087

Source: My uncle from Nintendo.

WTF YOU ARE SAYING.

That is a fucking first.

I have two guesses. Either he's dense as fuck and confuses Abe with Xi, or he's a complete moron and thinks Abe committed the WW2 war crimes

Maybe the user is taking Persona 5 at face value and thinks Abe is used his bastard son to kill people in the collective unconscious to maintain power.

(I will not be surprised that the guy probably had some connections to unsavory organizations*, but that is a first).

*It also should mentioned that has been the only confirmed motive of the assassin, which is still the assassin seems not totally sure about.

[benjipwns]

New ResetERA.com hero dropped:
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NEW CHALLENGER:

[Nintex]

I didn't get the hate against Abe until I realized he didn't start any wars during his time in office and mostly spend his time on diplomacy and trade deals. No wonder they wanted him dead.

[Potato]

I didn't get the hate against Abe until I realized he didn't start any wars during his time in office and mostly spend his time on diplomacy and trade deals. No wonder they wanted him dead.

Well, don't you know that capitalism is the greatest blight on human existence ever and people will not be free until we dismantle it and replace it with an ultranationalist totalitarian surveillance state dressed up in communist clothing?

Shame on you!

[Boredfrom]

He still had hard on for the possibility of being a military power, Nintex.

Obviously, is not like China or North Korea are excellent neighbors to begin with.

Getting killed by an ex member of your military while being a right winger must suck, thought.

Well, don't you know that capitalism is the greatest blight on human existence ever and people will not be free until we dismantle it and replace it with a totalitarian surveillance state dressed up in communist clothing?

Shame on you! 

Being fair, the guy was not a bastion of free speech and “the one party rule” are inherently authoritarian and corrupt even at its best. (Just not outright fascist by default)

[Potato]

The only thing one can hope for is that people will keep bringing up the bad points, japan will very likley just default to valorizing him like Mother Teresa. Who knows what a bit of distance will do, but right now it's the "gotta be civil and nice" part of things.

Translation: I'm sad that I can't immediately speak ill of the politician who was just assassinated and have to wait until his body is cold before I can start.

[NegativeCrepe]

The kind of stuff they post and the amount of gleeful snitches on Reee, no way that forum isn't on multiple agency watchlists by now.

i have sent plenty of their posts to the feds especially nepnep

that forum needs to be shut down

[Boredfrom]

I think you can be totally critical about a recently dead politician. You just don’t need to sound insane or stupid by saying stuff like he was in the CIA backed Imperial Army raping those women during World War 2.

[VomKriege]

The thing I'm wondering most of all right now is...
...what does Hideo Kojima think about all this?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-japanese-prime-minister-shinzo-abe-shot-in-the-back-in-nara-city-suspect-arrested-up-abe-confirmed-dead-see-staff-post.605334/page-25#post-89717997

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[Potato]

He still had hard on for the possibility of being a military power, Nintex.

Obviously, is not like China or North Korea are excellent neighbors to begin with.

Getting killed by an ex member of your military while being a right winger must suck, thought.

Well, don't you know that capitalism is the greatest blight on human existence ever and people will not be free until we dismantle it and replace it with a totalitarian surveillance state dressed up in communist clothing?

Shame on you! 

Being fair, the guy was not a bastion of free speech and “the one party rule” are inherently authoritarian and corrupt even at its best. (Just not outright fascist by default)

Japan is complicated and I won't even begin to assume any understanding of the nuances of Japanese political and cultural life. However, no politician in a democratic country should be gunned down in public, ever. Even deadset pieces of shit like Johnson, Trump, Thatcher, Blair, and their ilk. Dictators on the other hand...

[Propagandhim]

The kind of stuff they post and the amount of gleeful snitches on Reee, no way that forum isn't on multiple agency watchlists by now.

i have sent plenty of their posts to the feds especially nepnep

that forum needs to be shut down

Please don't do that.


Nepenthe is almost the only reason I come to this thread.  Her craziness brings so much joy to my life.  Why would you want to take that away from me?

[D3RANG3D]

The thing I'm wondering most of all right now is...
...what does Hideo Kojima think about all this?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-japanese-prime-minister-shinzo-abe-shot-in-the-back-in-nara-city-suspect-arrested-up-abe-confirmed-dead-see-staff-post.605334/page-25#post-89717997

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https://rafu.com/2022/07/politicians-news-channels-misidentify-hideo-kojima-as-shinzo-abe-assassin/

[VomKriege]

That's not really an Era related musing but while it's true Japan is fairly violence free including in political life that's somewhat a modern development too.

[benjipwns]

The kind of stuff they post and the amount of gleeful snitches on Reee, no way that forum isn't on multiple agency watchlists by now.

i have sent plenty of their posts to the feds especially nepnep

that forum needs to be shut down

Please don't do that.


Nepenthe is almost the only reason I come to this thread.  Her craziness brings so much joy to my life.  Why would you want to take that away from me?

It's fine, she lives in the horrific capitalist white supremacist hellscape that is America, the First Amendment protects everything she posts no matter how bad she wants to get rid of it so minorities can be thrown in prison or murdered for their thoughts.

[VomKriege]

The thing I'm wondering most of all right now is...
...what does Hideo Kojima think about all this?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-japanese-prime-minister-shinzo-abe-shot-in-the-back-in-nara-city-suspect-arrested-up-abe-confirmed-dead-see-staff-post.605334/page-25#post-89717997

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https://rafu.com/2022/07/politicians-news-channels-misidentify-hideo-kojima-as-shinzo-abe-assassin/

Damn, lol.

[D3RANG3D]

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[VomKriege]

No, better. Put his account, with the name and blue check mark, up for sale to the highest bidder. Whoever gets it gets to post whatever they want as "Musk" and the proceedings will be used to help fund labour unions in Tesla factories.

[Boredfrom]

Many people gleefully admitting they didn’t delete their accounts. 

RE are as addicted to twitter as Elon Musk is.

[Nintex]

Hideo Kojima works for PlayStation, lives a peaceful life.

Hideo Kojima signs with Xbox and kills the former Japanese PM, smh

[Taco Bell Tower]

No, better. Put his account, with the name and blue check mark, up for sale to the highest bidder. Whoever gets it gets to post whatever they want as "Musk" and the proceedings will be used to help fund labour unions in Tesla factories.

Guess someone finally told him that openly antagonizing half of the userbase until they leave while embracing the other half that are so deplorable they would be radioactive to advertisers was a bad way to try to earn any money back on the investment.

[D3RANG3D]

Oh sweet irony.

[clothedmacuser]

Idk grave dancing some politician from a country thousands of miles away that you don't live in seems kind of wack lads

Like Excel deep diving US municipal politics in States she will never set foot in.  Whack indeed.

[Boredfrom]

hillary clinton is the funniest person in politics sometimes. just generally, one of the dumbest people in the room

She shouldhave said that he was a war criminal that raped those chinese women in World War 1 and Vietnam.

What about women left behind in territories occupied by imperial Japan??

God I hate this ghoul

You dont care Mekanos, why even pretend you fuck.

[benjipwns]

Guess someone finally told him that openly antagonizing half of the userbase until they leave while embracing the other half that are so deplorable they would be radioactive to advertisers was a bad way to try to earn any money back on the investment.

So that's why he's apparently trying to get out of the deal completely? Someone told him about the complaints of all the people who screamed about leaving over it but then spent the next few months continuing to tweet non-stop except for Arthur Chu?

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/covid-cases-in-italy-have-exploded.605358/

100K+ cases for 3 days straight in a country with such a small population. WTF is even going on?

[Pissy F Benny]

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/candice-patton-wanted-to-leave-the-flash-in-season-2-due-to-racist-misogynistic-fans-says-wb-did-nothing-to-protect-her.605613/

Ultimately Patton decided to stay on The Flash — currently airing its eighth season — because she felt a responsibility to the fans who she represented and to portray the historic, inclusive role. While she will be returning for season 9, Patton said she isn't sure if that one will be her last.

She wanted out in Season 2 but she stayed 9 seasons because the “good” fans demanded. It almost feels like it was not a big of the deal as she is claiming and only doing a Disney+ in alluding social progress (even if the shows sounds to be in the last legs).

There was definitely a lot of bitching about it, and I believe her that there were a lot of assholes crying about it. But doesn’t sound like anybody forcing her to stay in the show and I dunno how she expected that Warner and CW to “protect” her beyond a PR release bitching about it, ala Lucasfilm.

When I watched the show, she was good as Iris, but is not exactly like the character has any depth beyond love interest of a silver age superhero. But I liked it, and it seems that most people didn’t mind it at the end.

In any case, don’t you love how every MCU wanker is bumping a death thread because not even BCT seem to care enough to generate a shitstorm?

[benjipwns]

I dunno how she expected that Warner and CW to “protect” her beyond a PR release bitching about it, ala Lucasfilm.

Taylor Lorenz and some others also say this, how important it is to have a company who "protects" their employees from meanies on the internet but I've never understood what this could be possibly mean. Like at least Lorenz actually works for WaPo, actors don't exactly work for WB in the same way.

The only thing I can think of is what you say, they want their company to tell people who complain to shut up. Which is a weird flex if they aren't even your fans. "Thank you company who makes something I don't like, I will re-evaluate my personal views."

[Tuckers Law]

They didn't know how to write her as a character without making it sound cringey and artificial, plus there just never seemed to be the kind of chemistry between Candice and Grant that was needed for them to be a believable couple.

Also, Patty Spivot in season 2 was  , it's no wonder that's when Candice was wanting to leave.

[Boredfrom]

The virtues of a Latin American dub, in my case.

[Tuckers Law]

Regardless of Candice Patton's acting chops (I think she's alright, just didn't have much to work with), she's still fine as hell.

[Boredfrom]

Damn I wonder why people in China may not be too thrilled with Shinzo Abe and his stance on the war crimes commited by his country

Like man I’m sorry but you’re embarrassing yourself. It’s one thing to say that you don’t feel comfortable celebrating someone’s death, but this person spent his time as prime minister denying literal genocide and massacre. Insane to chalk up the sentiment being expressed in the article you’ve shared to “CCP anti-democracy” bs

Yeah, because China cares so much about genocide and weiboo nationalists are not nutcases that harass people for mentioning “Taiwan” or visiting random shrines.

You know what the CCP has done way worse by now that Abe being denialist cunt?

Not sure if you could call Japan's politics democratic though.

You guys are acting like is a Third World banana republic with a fascist in charge.

[benjipwns]

Damn I wonder why people in China may not be too thrilled with Shinzo Abe and his stance on the war crimes commited by his country

Like man I’m sorry but you’re embarrassing yourself. It’s one thing to say that you don’t feel comfortable celebrating someone’s death, but this person spent his time as prime minister denying literal genocide and massacre. Insane to chalk up the sentiment being expressed in the article you’ve shared to “CCP anti-democracy” bs

In China it's just not acceptable for public officials to deny genocide and massacres.

[Polident Hive]

Don’t know about the flash show but I’ve previously read about other cw shows. The core whale audience is crazily possessive and the network caters to them. Gotta appeal to fans who’ll watch twenty seasons of a show and spend thousands to visit conventions. Some shit about supernatural fans hating the actors’ real life wives because they wanted show characters to be gay.

[Boredfrom]

Still unbelievable that we've got people doing the "civility politics" shit when a guy with well-known hard right associations dies. The focus should be on the ramifications of his death, not greeting tears for a guy who clearly didn't value the lives of others as much as he would try to profess in his public persona as a politician.

That would be fair if it was not:

1) Japan, the country with excessive and integrated culture of civility and politeness that, while hypocritical, permeates everything including diplomacy. No fucking country in the world outside China or North Korea is going to risk a political shitshow because Shinzo Abe was a cunt. Not even China is going to bitch about other nations politicians mourning the guy (at least not right away).

2)

Not greeting tears for a guy who clearly didn't value the lives of others as much as he would try to profess in his public persona as a politician.

You could say that for almost every single politician in the world. Hell, you can say that for most people at RE.

Grave dancing and pretending that genocide denial is a bigger sin than being an currently genocide happy government like China is why people are saying you are all assholes.

[Boredfrom]

Don’t know about the flash show but I’ve previously read about other cw shows. The core whale audience is crazily possessive and the network caters to them. Gotta appeal to fans who’ll watch twenty seasons of a show and spend thousands to visit conventions. Some shit about supernatural fans hating the actors’ real life wives because they wanted show characters to be gay.

Well, yeah. Those are shows aimed to teenagers at their core.

[Boredfrom]

If this was a US politican of similar character this thread would be full of "oh no anyway" posts. 

Because RE is insane, you idiot.

Abe was like Trump if Trump was Heinrich Himmler's grandson and kept denying the holocaust was really all that bad while posting about a return to the glory days of Nazism.

I imagine that Japan dont, currently, have concentration camps like China and your neighbors actually have now. Xenophobic policies and integrated institutional racism? For sure, is just that you guys are focusing to much in genocide denial while having the current biggest offenders in your continent, discuss how shitty is for Koreans to live in Japan because Abe and his party rhetoric, not that “politicians are not discussing WWII war crimes”.

It's shocking that a prominent figure was killed in this way but the reaction to it really betrays this forum's Americo-centrism.

In Korea, where Abe had a 3% approval rating (even Kim Jong-Un had 9%) in 2019, no one is sad. Some of my colleagues clapped when they heard which I found tasteless but still, understandable.

Your poor bastards, that is a lot of North Korean sympathizers

Are you mad that your President is sending condolences to his family?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/korea-president-yoon-sends-condolences-094824316.html

No?  You are not surprised that your president is not publicly sperging about how much of a cunt Abe was? Is like politicians in democratic countries are expected to act diplomatic and civil. Like they are not random people complaining about “Hillary sugarcoating the political life of a long time ally from a developed allied nation”.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1544251131655757830

 

[Boredfrom]

Emni, Vaja and Mossad working together to troll transsexuals.

[D3RANG3D]

 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/covid-cases-in-italy-have-exploded.605358/page-2#post-89687811

It's exploding everywhere. Last week everyone at the office went out for a drink after work and this week the office is empty because they all have Covid. There's been like 3 of in us all week.
I skipped out as I took a half day to go home play The Delicious Last Course, thanks Cuphead! ☕

I'm currently seated in France's most packed train line. There are 200k daily cases.

I'm the only masked person.

[benita]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/texas-woman-to-fight-hov-lane-citation-arguing-her-unborn-child-counts-as-a-2nd-person.605679/

Just pay your traffic ticket, goddamn

When she goes to the movies, she should be charged for an additional child's ticket.

Better start charging pregnant Texans double for plane tickets or admission to events then.

Real Sovereign Citizen energy coming from this one.

These fucking dummies missing the point.

[Potato]

The thing I'm wondering most of all right now is...
...what does Hideo Kojima think about all this?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-japanese-prime-minister-shinzo-abe-shot-in-the-back-in-nara-city-suspect-arrested-up-abe-confirmed-dead-see-staff-post.605334/page-25#post-89717997

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https://rafu.com/2022/07/politicians-news-channels-misidentify-hideo-kojima-as-shinzo-abe-assassin/

Damn, lol.

Kojima being a crazed political assassin is believable if you've ever sat through one is his "games".

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/candice-patton-wanted-to-leave-the-flash-in-season-2-due-to-racist-misogynistic-fans-says-wb-did-nothing-to-protect-her.605613/

Ultimately Patton decided to stay on The Flash — currently airing its eighth season — because she felt a responsibility to the fans who she represented and to portray the historic, inclusive role. While she will be returning for season 9, Patton said she isn't sure if that one will be her last.

She wanted out in Season 2 but she stayed 9 seasons because the “good” fans demanded. It almost feels like it was not a big of the deal as she is claiming and only doing a Disney+ in alluding social progress (even if the shows sounds to be in the last legs).

There was definitely a lot of bitching about it, and I believe her that there were a lot of assholes crying about it. But doesn’t sound like anybody forcing her to stay in the show and I dunno how she expected that Warner and CW to “protect” her beyond a PR release bitching about it, ala Lucasfilm.

When I watched the show, she was good as Iris, but is not exactly like the character has any depth beyond love interest of a silver age superhero. But I liked it, and it seems that most people didn’t mind it at the end.

In any case, don’t you love how every MCU wanker is bumping a death thread because not even BCT seem to care enough to generate a shitstorm?

Here's some advice and the best way to "protect" yourself: Get off Twatter you narcissistic dickhead.

[Potato]

Damn I wonder why people in China may not be too thrilled with Shinzo Abe and his stance on the war crimes commited by his country

Like man I’m sorry but you’re embarrassing yourself. It’s one thing to say that you don’t feel comfortable celebrating someone’s death, but this person spent his time as prime minister denying literal genocide and massacre. Insane to chalk up the sentiment being expressed in the article you’ve shared to “CCP anti-democracy” bs

Yeah, because China cares so much about genocide and weiboo nationalists are not nutcases that harass people for mentioning “Taiwan” or visiting random shrines.

You know what the CCP has done way worse by now that Abe being denialist cunt?

Not sure if you could call Japan's politics democratic though.

You guys are acting like is a Third World banana republic with a fascist in charge.