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« Reply #24600 on: July 13, 2022, 06:40:14 PM »
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Again, no one is making excuses for them.

Their post before this

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And traumatized people don't exist in normal conditions.

The murderers were the traumatized ones, not the elderly man getting beaten to death.

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« Reply #24601 on: July 13, 2022, 06:41:39 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/tim-heidecker-has-no-time-for-dave-chappelle-a-%E2%80%98leader-in-the-anti-trans-movement%E2%80%99.607263/page-2#post-89948289

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Tim has far more Hollywood pull than Dave. Sure, Comedy Central and Netflix set him up for life, but if this dude comes out of the woodwork to shit on you it’s probably time to listen. He’s a name you don’t piss off.

So the guy I just had to Google who's thing seems to be mostly niche nerd shit has more pull than Dave Chapelle? Do they not know that it's possible dislike someone who is very rich and famous without going into 'actually they're a bum no one cares about' fantasy land, and also if they're a bum no one cares about why are they so dangerous?
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« Reply #24602 on: July 13, 2022, 06:43:20 PM »
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Not calling anyone out in particular but in these threads it’s almost like people get joy and satisfaction from finally being able to comment on black crime without fear of a ban, which is why you see some of these bloodthirsty takes. Lock em up for life, death penalty, “animals”, etc.

They murdered a man and laughed while doing it. What would you like people to call them? Misunderstood?

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« Reply #24603 on: July 13, 2022, 06:46:33 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/tim-heidecker-has-no-time-for-dave-chappelle-a-%E2%80%98leader-in-the-anti-trans-movement%E2%80%99.607263/page-2#post-89948289

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Tim has far more Hollywood pull than Dave. Sure, Comedy Central and Netflix set him up for life, but if this dude comes out of the woodwork to shit on you it’s probably time to listen. He’s a name you don’t piss off.

So the guy I just had to Google who's thing seems to be mostly niche nerd shit has more pull than Dave Chapelle? Do they not know that it's possible dislike someone who is very rich and famous without going into 'actually they're a bum no one cares about' fantasy land, and also if they're a bum no one cares about why are they so dangerous?

Also a fat white neckbeard tearing down a successful man of colour isn't slick at all :elon
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« Reply #24604 on: July 13, 2022, 06:49:15 PM »
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That's part of the problem, innit?

Honestly, this thread was reported way too late in the game as a "shock thread" and allowed to be left open as a result. Some decent discussion came out of it, but let's be honest.

This shit is a hotbed of liberal racism and people are way too comfortable showing themselves out.

I'm not happy with it, and I apologize to everyone for the negligence. Staff will be combing through this thread post by post.


We ban people for being livid and wanting murderers locked up now and call them racists in the process. Oh and it was “reported as a shock thread”

 :confused :mindblown :picard

I…uh. Yeah. Gonna need someone to just link to that thread next time white teens kill someone and sit back and watch chaos ensue.

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« Reply #24605 on: July 13, 2022, 06:52:35 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/7-teens-in-philadelphia-assault-elderly-man-on-camera-victim-dies-following-day.605511/page-10#post-89936685
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14-year-olds get carried away. They beat him and he succumbed to his injuries. I live in Philly. I have seen it all in my city. We had frequent flash mobs 10 years ago. folks randomly punching people in the face and running. jumping folks. It's bad. But this is what kids do. This is chaos. Surely they didn't mean to kill him and yes their actions played a huge factor in his death. But to call them animals and change them into adults and not rehabilitation having them in juvie furthers the school to prison pipeline and fails children, especially Black children.

 :mindblown

How can someone even write this with a straight face. Their actions were the only factor that caused his death

Whole lot of words to justify murder. Fucking insanity.

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« Reply #24606 on: July 13, 2022, 06:57:19 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/tim-heidecker-has-no-time-for-dave-chappelle-a-%E2%80%98leader-in-the-anti-trans-movement%E2%80%99.607263/page-2#post-89948289

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Tim has far more Hollywood pull than Dave. Sure, Comedy Central and Netflix set him up for life, but if this dude comes out of the woodwork to shit on you it’s probably time to listen. He’s a name you don’t piss off.

So the guy I just had to Google who's thing seems to be mostly niche nerd shit has more pull than Dave Chapelle? Do they not know that it's possible dislike someone who is very rich and famous without going into 'actually they're a bum no one cares about' fantasy land, and also if they're a bum no one cares about why are they so dangerous?

Tim is well known & he knows people but on its face it's ridiculous he's more famous / has more pull than Chapelle.
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« Reply #24607 on: July 13, 2022, 07:14:46 PM »
I realized we actually do have a good example of white kids acting like dipshits.  The Covington kids.  Let's take a look at that thread to see what Era says.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-supporter-gleefully-bothers-a-native-american-protestor-at-the-indigenous-peoples-march.94474/

Damn, more contempt for them than kids that committed murder.  Similar age group too.

A Nepenthe post in there: https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-supporter-gleefully-bothers-a-native-american-protestor-at-the-indigenous-peoples-march.94474/page-14#post-17052240

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If racist kids are never responsible for their racism, how do you then blame those same kids when they go on to be racist adults?

You can't.

There's no throughline between victim and victimizer.

The point of this is once again to shield white people from the consequences of their actions.

Every single time.

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« Reply #24608 on: July 13, 2022, 07:19:41 PM »
I realized we actually do have a good example of white kids acting like dipshits.  The Covington kids.  Let's take a look at that thread to see what Era says.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-supporter-gleefully-bothers-a-native-american-protestor-at-the-indigenous-peoples-march.94474/

Damn, more contempt for them than kids that committed murder.  Similar age group too.

A Nepenthe post in there: https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-supporter-gleefully-bothers-a-native-american-protestor-at-the-indigenous-peoples-march.94474/page-14#post-17052240

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If racist kids are never responsible for their racism, how do you then blame those same kids when they go on to be racist adults?

You can't.

There's no throughline between victim and victimizer.

The point of this is once again to shield white people from the consequences of their actions.

Every single time.

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I think I am less infuriated by the typical "kids" angle than I am of the intent by all these sudden convenient newcomers across these two threads reposting the Twitter thread by Arlen Parsa and similar sentiments to protect these racist asshats under the guise that it "doesn't solve the issue" and "makes you out to be a mob as well."

The suggested call to action is instead to fix the root causes of the problem by "lifting up the heroes." Yes, fix the root causes of the problem by ignoring them altogether and instead lying to the vocal bystanders and actual victims that everything is going to be okay in a situation where it's been made expressly clear that nothing will be done because punishing white people for their racism is, in some way, always unjust.

 :ohhh

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« Reply #24609 on: July 13, 2022, 07:30:16 PM »
I realized we actually do have a good example of white kids acting like dipshits.  The Covington kids.  Let's take a look at that thread to see what Era says.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-supporter-gleefully-bothers-a-native-american-protestor-at-the-indigenous-peoples-march.94474/

Damn, more contempt for them than kids that committed murder.  Similar age group too.

A Nepenthe post in there: https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-supporter-gleefully-bothers-a-native-american-protestor-at-the-indigenous-peoples-march.94474/page-14#post-17052240

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If racist kids are never responsible for their racism, how do you then blame those same kids when they go on to be racist adults?

You can't.

There's no throughline between victim and victimizer.

The point of this is once again to shield white people from the consequences of their actions.

Every single time.

Kid trolls people, never actually touches them? Fuck that bastard, he knew what he was doing. Smug incel.

Kids laugh while beating a man to death? Now lets hold on here, this is all really sad and tragic and I feel for the victim but we need to work with these kids who clearly didn’t know what they were doing. Let me link to stuff that says shit like this

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approximately one third of 11 to 13 year olds and approximately one fifth of 14 to 15 year olds are as impaired in capacities relevant to adjudicative competence as are seriously mentally ill adults who would likely be considered incompetent to stand trial.

to justify murder in this one instance. PLEASE SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24610 on: July 13, 2022, 07:50:27 PM »
This is what happens when kids aren't kept in check. Suddenly the Moors Murderers don't seem so bad anymore huh?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24611 on: July 13, 2022, 07:57:18 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/glenn-kessler-fact-checks-whether-a-10-year-old-girl-got-raped-in-ohio-says-story-is-very-thin-immediately-proven-true-mocks-critics.607269/

I don't really get this thread

So a fact checker took a look at this story and concluded that it's hard to find evidence because of privacy laws so he ranked it "maybe true, maybe false"
A short time after new evidence appeared which confirmed that the story is true, the article is then updated

So what exactly is the problem there? Isn't that exactly what a fact checker should do?

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« Reply #24612 on: July 13, 2022, 08:23:42 PM »
Guys, I think Nepenthe and Royalfat just might be dumb as shit.

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« Reply #24613 on: July 13, 2022, 08:38:59 PM »
Royalan needs a safety helmet to eat soup

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24614 on: July 13, 2022, 09:47:07 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/7-teens-in-philadelphia-assault-elderly-man-on-camera-victim-dies-following-day.605511/page-10#post-89936685
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14-year-olds get carried away. They beat him and he succumbed to his injuries. I live in Philly. I have seen it all in my city. We had frequent flash mobs 10 years ago. folks randomly punching people in the face and running. jumping folks. It's bad. But this is what kids do. This is chaos. Surely they didn't mean to kill him and yes their actions played a huge factor in his death. But to call them animals and change them into adults and not rehabilitation having them in juvie furthers the school to prison pipeline and fails children, especially Black children.

 :mindblown

How can someone even write this with a straight face. Their actions were the only factor that caused his death

Whole lot of words to justify murder. Fucking insanity.

they're acting like insurance companies  :lol :fbm

"while this individual may have been diagnosed with covid-19, we have determined this was only one of many factors in their death, which was ultimately caused by pneumonia, which is not a condition covered under their policy"
 :smug
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« Reply #24615 on: July 13, 2022, 10:18:51 PM »
At this point, I'm just waiting for nep and royalan to accuse the old man of having fentanyl in his system being the cause of his death.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24616 on: July 14, 2022, 12:33:44 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/7-teens-in-philadelphia-assault-elderly-man-on-camera-victim-dies-following-day.605511/page-8#post-89914704
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The fucking defence force for these scumbags is infuriating. THEY FUCKING MURDERED AN INNOCENT ELDERLY MAN.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/7-teens-in-philadelphia-assault-elderly-man-on-camera-victim-dies-following-day.605511/page-10#post-89943813
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Why don't you take your "Defense Force" strawman bullshit and get the fuck out of here? The situation is not as black and white as you are trying to make it.
Yeah nah it is. They killed, murdered, an innocent man, who was of old age and fucking homeless and yet some of you in here wanna play the "but they come from a rough area of town" or whatever other bollox.

Fuck you pal.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24617 on: July 14, 2022, 12:35:37 AM »
Enjoy your three month break Auld Triangle
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« Reply #24618 on: July 14, 2022, 12:38:00 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/7-teens-in-philadelphia-assault-elderly-man-on-camera-victim-dies-following-day.605511/page-8#post-89914704
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The fucking defence force for these scumbags is infuriating. THEY FUCKING MURDERED AN INNOCENT ELDERLY MAN.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/7-teens-in-philadelphia-assault-elderly-man-on-camera-victim-dies-following-day.605511/page-10#post-89943813
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Why don't you take your "Defense Force" strawman bullshit and get the fuck out of here? The situation is not as black and white as you are trying to make it.
Yeah nah it is. They killed, murdered, an innocent man, who was of old age and fucking homeless and yet some of you in here wanna play the "but they come from a rough area of town" or whatever other bollox.

Fuck you pal.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24619 on: July 14, 2022, 12:45:02 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/7-teens-in-philadelphia-assault-elderly-man-on-camera-victim-dies-following-day.605511/page-8#post-89914704
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The fucking defence force for these scumbags is infuriating. THEY FUCKING MURDERED AN INNOCENT ELDERLY MAN.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/7-teens-in-philadelphia-assault-elderly-man-on-camera-victim-dies-following-day.605511/page-10#post-89943813
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Why don't you take your "Defense Force" strawman bullshit and get the fuck out of here? The situation is not as black and white as you are trying to make it.
Yeah nah it is. They killed, murdered, an innocent man, who was of old age and fucking homeless and yet some of you in here wanna play the "but they come from a rough area of town" or whatever other bollox.

Fuck you pal.
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Let me try to understand this "not as black and white as you are trying to make it" situation.

A bunch of teenagers:
  • started harassing on camera an elderly homeless man who tried to get away
  • they then started beating the shit out of him with a traffic cone while laughing about it
  • the old man died
  • the teenagers should be dealt with kindly by the law based on nothing more than the socio-economic background of the kids
  • if you don't agree, eat a three month ban.
Have I got this straight?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24620 on: July 14, 2022, 12:55:41 AM »
Boseman was a hero to a lot of kids who needed representation.

But T’Challa himself was possibly an even bigger hero. I really felt pain that little black kids lost both their Black Panthers.
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« Reply #24621 on: July 14, 2022, 01:08:59 AM »
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This weird stigma surrounding recasting needs to change.

A man died and that's terrible but the real tragedy here is that I don't get more of the content I want.
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« Reply #24622 on: July 14, 2022, 03:47:19 AM »
Don't they have enough footage to just do a CG boseman, he's mostly in the suit anyway.

You can't just bail on your Disney contract by dying
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« Reply #24623 on: July 14, 2022, 07:32:52 AM »
Not specifically an Era thing, but it's so fucking cringe when comic fans talk about superheroes by their first names like they're buddies.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/you-think-dick-was-a-dick-to-barbara-tims-treatment-of-stephanie-was-bad-too.607413/

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What is this even about?

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I have no idea, so I bet it's either comic books or Anime.

 :hesright

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« Reply #24624 on: July 14, 2022, 07:38:34 AM »
Here's my hot take, it might be a little harsh, but here goes:  If you're older than 7 and think about comic books and superhero movies for more than 1 minute a day, you should be fed dog food before you're crucified in front of the Hague.

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« Reply #24625 on: July 14, 2022, 07:45:50 AM »
Harsh but fair.

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« Reply #24626 on: July 14, 2022, 07:53:14 AM »
Not specifically an Era thing, but it's so fucking cringe when comic fans talk about superheroes by their first names like they're buddies.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/you-think-dick-was-a-dick-to-barbara-tims-treatment-of-stephanie-was-bad-too.607413/

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What is this even about?

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I have no idea, so I bet it's either comic books or Anime.

 :hesright
Americans do it with sports as well. Isn't this just an American thing like clapping at the cinema and shooting up schools?
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« Reply #24627 on: July 14, 2022, 07:56:39 AM »
Seems like in most endeavors if something has a 50 percent chance of failing, most people wouldn’t try it. But that’s where we are with marriage. That said I’m personally not anti marriage, but it does seem it should be taken more seriously, with much more stringent vetting requirements and perhaps a legal bailout period, like a warranty lol.

 :whatsthedeal

It's only a "success rate" from the premise that it should last forever. Just like other relationships, some marriages end amicably or because something has run its course between partners and we've made a lot of progress in giving people the tools to do so.
I dunno, the beep boop I'm an alien tone rubs me the wrong way.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24628 on: July 14, 2022, 08:23:52 AM »
I’m legit waiting for this to release in D+ because of the lead. Seems like an absolutely cursed production.

:salute

Some are really trying to get worked up about this particular film for which barely any footage has been seen. Oh no, some supporting role isn't coming back, the film is doomed ! Somehow not recasting the main part means the movie will fail at black representation (isn't most of the lead artistic team reconducted from the previous film ?)

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This is good. Let BP 2 fail and they can set the franchise back on track.

:what
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24629 on: July 14, 2022, 08:34:09 AM »
Marriage is a sham, but not because they sometimes end. People who have faith their relationship will last don't get the government involved. If you think your partner actually loves you you'd make it as legally easy as possible for them to leave you, hoping that they won't. If you love someone, set them free. If they come back they're yours; if they don't they never were.

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« Reply #24630 on: July 14, 2022, 08:37:44 AM »
I’m legit waiting for this to release in D+ because of the lead. Seems like an absolutely cursed production.

:salute

Some are really trying to get worked up about this particular film for which barely any footage has been seen. Oh no, some supporting role isn't coming back, the film is doomed ! Somehow not recasting the main part means the movie will fail at black representation (isn't most of the lead artistic team reconducted from the previous film ?)

I'm not sure why anyone would even care whether Kayluuya is back or not considering how little his character did in the first one. Kayluuya has better stuff to do than playing a bit role.

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« Reply #24631 on: July 14, 2022, 08:51:53 AM »
I legit thought his character died lol

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« Reply #24632 on: July 14, 2022, 08:57:16 AM »
Some good chuckling in the older threads :
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Look I don't think anyone wants to defend Wright here, but why did she generate so much activity for controversies with no new news, and Chris Pratt doesn't? Where's the 600+ comment thread on Pratt supporting a hate group or how shitty he is to his disabled son
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24633 on: July 14, 2022, 10:00:01 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/7-teens-in-philadelphia-assault-elderly-man-on-camera-victim-dies-following-day.605511/page-10#post-89936685
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14-year-olds get carried away. They beat him and he succumbed to his injuries. I live in Philly. I have seen it all in my city. We had frequent flash mobs 10 years ago. folks randomly punching people in the face and running. jumping folks. It's bad. But this is what kids do. This is chaos. Surely they didn't mean to kill him and yes their actions played a huge factor in his death. But to call them animals and change them into adults and not rehabilitation having them in juvie furthers the school to prison pipeline and fails children, especially Black children.

 :mindblown

How can someone even write this with a straight face. Their actions were the only factor that caused his death

Whole lot of words to justify murder. Fucking insanity.

this is the forum where you get your account nuked for "downplaying" if you post something like "that terf bitch joanne is awful but i don't think she's actually advocating genocide"


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24634 on: July 14, 2022, 10:22:08 AM »
I’m legit waiting for this to release in D+ because of the lead. Seems like an absolutely cursed production.

:salute

Some are really trying to get worked up about this particular film for which barely any footage has been seen. Oh no, some supporting role isn't coming back, the film is doomed ! Somehow not recasting the main part means the movie will fail at black representation (isn't most of the lead artistic team reconducted from the previous film ?)

I'm not sure why anyone would even care whether Kayluuya is back or not considering how little his character did in the first one. Kayluuya has better stuff to do than playing a bit role.

Disney: Here are when we need you, NON NEGOTIABLE
Jordan:  Have a bunch of money
Disney: = (


edit: I typed this up before seeing the tweet about scheduling conflicts. :lol


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24635 on: July 14, 2022, 10:24:34 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/7-teens-in-philadelphia-assault-elderly-man-on-camera-victim-dies-following-day.605511/page-10#post-89936685
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14-year-olds get carried away. They beat him and he succumbed to his injuries. I live in Philly. I have seen it all in my city. We had frequent flash mobs 10 years ago. folks randomly punching people in the face and running. jumping folks. It's bad. But this is what kids do. This is chaos. Surely they didn't mean to kill him and yes their actions played a huge factor in his death. But to call them animals and change them into adults and not rehabilitation having them in juvie furthers the school to prison pipeline and fails children, especially Black children.

 :mindblown

How can someone even write this with a straight face. Their actions were the only factor that caused his death

Um, his injuries killed him.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #24636 on: July 14, 2022, 10:33:27 AM »
In my lived experience as an injured person with an experience in injuryness, injuries don't kill people.  It's the system that fails to address those injuries that kills people.  It's the society that societizes those injuries in this so-called system of justice that poopoo peepee doodoo

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« Reply #24637 on: July 14, 2022, 10:50:16 AM »
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How many black male wealthy super genius kings are there to look up to?
Arguably not even T'Challa, given they gave his intelligence to Shuri for the films.

:dead

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« Reply #24638 on: July 14, 2022, 11:24:26 AM »
Can’t believe they made the female the brains of the operation  :quark

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« Reply #24639 on: July 14, 2022, 12:31:32 PM »
Black kills Black: OK
Black kills White: obviously OK
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White kills White: ???
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« Reply #24640 on: July 14, 2022, 12:48:12 PM »
Seems like in most endeavors if something has a 50 percent chance of failing, most people wouldn’t try it. But that’s where we are with marriage. That said I’m personally not anti marriage, but it does seem it should be taken more seriously, with much more stringent vetting requirements and perhaps a legal bailout period, like a warranty lol.

 :whatsthedeal

It's only a "success rate" from the premise that it should last forever. Just like other relationships, some marriages end amicably or because something has run its course between partners and we've made a lot of progress in giving people the tools to do so.
I dunno, the beep boop I'm an alien tone rubs me the wrong way.
The 50% rate is a fallacy anyway because the once-divorced are much more likely to get remarried and then divorced again (and sometimes again and again) which skews the results towards the frequent flyers.
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« Reply #24641 on: July 14, 2022, 12:57:35 PM »
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This weird stigma surrounding recasting needs to change.

A man died and that's terrible but the real tragedy here is that I don't get more of the content I want.

I mean, he didnt own the character. The character is probably older than most of us and its core audience. His brother says that he would probably wanted a recast

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« Reply #24642 on: July 14, 2022, 01:20:52 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/street-fighter-6-has-just-frames-precise-input-for-better-version-of-specials.595686/page-10#post-88428081

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It's amazing how many people have no idea what a just frame is and how little it will affect them in the game.
I mained Jin for like a decade on Tekken, but go off with your assumptions.

Edit: Nah, I'm out of this embarrassing epeen-waving contest of a thread. Touch some grass y'all.

Shouldn't have gone after Hecht.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-jury-finds-that-amber-heard-defamed-him-in-op-ed.590196/page-35#post-88338018
A month later and we have another dev permabanned:
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« Reply #24643 on: July 14, 2022, 01:29:44 PM »
A Nepenthe post in there: https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-supporter-gleefully-bothers-a-native-american-protestor-at-the-indigenous-peoples-march.94474/page-14#post-17052240

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If racist kids are never responsible for their racism, how do you then blame those same kids when they go on to be racist adults?

You can't.

There's no throughline between victim and victimizer.

The point of this is once again to shield white people from the consequences of their actions.

Every single time.

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I think I am less infuriated by the typical "kids" angle than I am of the intent by all these sudden convenient newcomers across these two threads reposting the Twitter thread by Arlen Parsa and similar sentiments to protect these racist asshats under the guise that it "doesn't solve the issue" and "makes you out to be a mob as well."

The suggested call to action is instead to fix the root causes of the problem by "lifting up the heroes." Yes, fix the root causes of the problem by ignoring them altogether and instead lying to the vocal bystanders and actual victims that everything is going to be okay in a situation where it's been made expressly clear that nothing will be done because punishing white people for their racism is, in some way, always unjust.

 :ohhh
She turned out to be right, not only did that smirking racist MAGA white kid not get punished at all for his blatant racism he got paid a bunch of money by The Washington Post, CNN and NBCUniversal for his racism and then was further rewarded with giving a speech to the 2020 RNC.

It's not hard for me to imagine that if the Covington kids had been thrown in prison for life for their unrepentant racism that James Lambert might still be alive today rather than having died from wounds he received during an unplanned for event of chaos which may have involved unknown others.

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« Reply #24644 on: July 14, 2022, 01:34:03 PM »
I dunno why they keep repeating that “society and poverty” is the justification when most also admitting most people don’t murder old folk when they are teenagers.

Yes, socioeconomic issues are the cause overall of this kind of stuff, but arguing that rehabilitating someone is an end for all.

It's not that its that eye brow raising to argue these points, especially in regards to appropriate punishment for crimes from a liberal / left leaning perspective.

It's that its only popping up under extremely specific circumstances, but desperate white trash still get the regular "hope you get butt-fucked in prison" era replies.

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« Reply #24645 on: July 14, 2022, 01:35:42 PM »
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This is the best critique so far. People do not understand that a real women with bodily autonomy choosing how they dress or act is different than a fictional women being created to dress or act a certain way by other people, usually men. How can the latter be empowering and sex positive? Makes little sense.

Because you can represent those real women in a videogame? Like how is this hard to understand? We constantly represent types of people that exist in real life in fiction. That's what the whole call for representation is about you dumb dumb

arguing from one side of your mouth that characters arent real therefore no 'agency' concerns matter, while simultaneously arguing out the other side of your mouth that it doesnt matter if the characters are real because the responses to them are is some real have your cake and eat it bullshit

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« Reply #24646 on: July 14, 2022, 01:41:48 PM »
Marriage is a sham, but not because they sometimes end. People who have faith their relationship will last don't get the government involved. If you think your partner actually loves you you'd make it as legally easy as possible for them to leave you, hoping that they won't. If you love someone, set them free. If they come back they're yours; if they don't they never were.

In fairness, the fact the government draws distinctions between married / not married in mundane aspects of citizenship like tax codes, power of attorney, inheritance etc means there are tangible reasons to declare yourself legally married (and the reason why gay marriage is important from a civics perspective, its not just to piss off religious folks who are looking at it solely as a religious ceremony).

A fair criticism would be "why would the government give a shit about which citizens are single or not", but... you know. They do, so you gotta accommodate that.

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« Reply #24647 on: July 14, 2022, 01:45:23 PM »
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This is the best critique so far. People do not understand that a real women with bodily autonomy choosing how they dress or act is different than a fictional women being created to dress or act a certain way by other people, usually men. How can the latter be empowering and sex positive? Makes little sense.

Because you can represent those real women in a videogame? Like how is this hard to understand? We constantly represent types of people that exist in real life in fiction. That's what the whole call for representation is about you dumb dumb

arguing from one side of your mouth that characters arent real therefore no 'agency' concerns matter, while simultaneously arguing out the other side of your mouth that it doesnt matter if the characters are real because the responses to them are is some real have your cake and eat it bullshit
It's even better because in this case Bayonetta has a woman designer so they imply that the lead producer forced her to accommodate his fetishes. Literally no actual or fictional women involved have any agency unless they agree with the complainers.

And representing any of these women, unlike everyone else who deserves representation at all times in all games, is also bad because women will be misled into thinking such representation is good.

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« Reply #24648 on: July 14, 2022, 01:46:18 PM »
Black kills Black: OK
Black kills White: obviously OK
White kills Black: obviously not OK
White kills White: ???

a good start :reeeee

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« Reply #24649 on: July 14, 2022, 01:51:07 PM »
The Vtubers thread at RE has occasional existential crisis when some Female Vtuber is unapologetic horny or if someone is not political correct as RE. I don’t think all the stuff they bitch about in the Female Character Design thread is totally without merit, is just so shitty how much act like pricks or don’t think of some hypocrisies.

Princess Bubblegum: “I hate fetishized lesbians in media. I have an avatar of a fetishized couple in a kids cartoon.”

Fetish and sexuality is only valid when it is in my very narrow spectrum, not if everyone gets to do it in a way I don’t like.


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« Reply #24650 on: July 14, 2022, 01:54:19 PM »
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This weird stigma surrounding recasting needs to change.

A man died and that's terrible but the real tragedy here is that I don't get more of the content I want.

I mean, he didnt own the character. The character is probably older than most of us and its core audience. His brother says that he would probably wanted a recast

"His brother says that he would probably wanted a recast"

"maybe some that looks like him, oh what's this, oh it's my head shot, why do I have this in my pocket. weird"

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« Reply #24651 on: July 14, 2022, 01:59:16 PM »
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This weird stigma surrounding recasting needs to change.

A man died and that's terrible but the real tragedy here is that I don't get more of the content I want.

I mean, he didnt own the character. The character is probably older than most of us and its core audience. His brother says that he would probably wanted a recast

Absolutely. But I think it's fair to wait for the movie to actually be seen before judging if they make this constraint / choice forced by unfortunate circumstances work. Hiring new actors for the same role is common, but so is having a different character don the mask.

It's reasonable to worry that the convoluted production might impact the film but it reads a little like some people are trying to preemptively find things to get disappointed or sour about. Doubly weird because it's Black Panther.
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« Reply #24652 on: July 14, 2022, 02:05:47 PM »
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This is the best critique so far. People do not understand that a real women with bodily autonomy choosing how they dress or act is different than a fictional women being created to dress or act a certain way by other people, usually men. How can the latter be empowering and sex positive? Makes little sense.

Because you can represent those real women in a videogame? Like how is this hard to understand? We constantly represent types of people that exist in real life in fiction. That's what the whole call for representation is about you dumb dumb

arguing from one side of your mouth that characters arent real therefore no 'agency' concerns matter, while simultaneously arguing out the other side of your mouth that it doesnt matter if the characters are real because the responses to them are is some real have your cake and eat it bullshit
It's even better because in this case Bayonetta has a woman designer so they imply that the lead producer forced her to accommodate his fetishes. Literally no actual or fictional women involved have any agency unless they agree with the complainers.

And representing any of these women, unlike everyone else who deserves representation at all times in all games, is also bad because women will be misled into thinking such representation is good.

If only there was some resource where the designer detailed how she created the character  :-\

What's this??

https://www.platinumgames.com/official-blog/article/1278

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When we started Bayonetta, our director, Hideki Kamiya, asked me to design a character with three traits:
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When a female character appears in an action game, her limbs often seem thin and short. That is why I tried to make her more appealing as an action game character by adjusting her proportions and extending her limbs.

Then I went about finishing up her clothing, which you can see below!

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When she summons these Infernal Demons, she is using all of her power, so she has no time to control the hair wrapped around her body and thus she ends up in more “comfortable” attire. The exciting way she looks in this state is one of the parts of Bayonetta that I love.

Literally the only thing Kamiya pushed for were the glasses

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Glasses! This was something that Kamiya-san really pushed for, as he was aiming to differentiate Bayonetta from other female characters and give her a sense of mystery and intelligence. Of course, I think it is just because he likes girls with glasses

Poor woman is basically crying for help
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Conceptually, we were also looking to make Bayonetta “fashionable,” and I designed her so that this sense of fashion came through in all the little details, not just the glasses.

That is the story behind Bayonetta’s final design. I think I was able to put my feelings into her design, and she ended up a strong female character.

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« Reply #24653 on: July 14, 2022, 02:24:35 PM »
Marriage is a sham, but not because they sometimes end. People who have faith their relationship will last don't get the government involved. If you think your partner actually loves you you'd make it as legally easy as possible for them to leave you, hoping that they won't. If you love someone, set them free. If they come back they're yours; if they don't they never were.

In fairness, the fact the government draws distinctions between married / not married in mundane aspects of citizenship like tax codes, power of attorney, inheritance etc means there are tangible reasons to declare yourself legally married (and the reason why gay marriage is important from a civics perspective, its not just to piss off religious folks who are looking at it solely as a religious ceremony).

A fair criticism would be "why would the government give a shit about which citizens are single or not", but... you know. They do, so you gotta accommodate that.

In Australia you are considered to be in a de facto relationship if you've been together as a couple for at least 2 years, and shorter if you have a kid together, and it comes with more or less the same kind of asset division on death/seperation that a married couple might be entitled to provided there's no will or anything like that. Although having a will and power of attorney organised should be something everyone should get sorted, regardless of whether they're in a relationship or single.

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« Reply #24654 on: July 14, 2022, 02:33:31 PM »
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Of course, I think it is just because he likes girls with glasses
See, she admits it. Bayonetta only exists because of the sick sexual deviant fetishes of an once white-adjacent cishet male.

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« Reply #24655 on: July 14, 2022, 02:49:20 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/subscribing-to-both-game-pass-and-ps-plus-extra-does-not-seem-worth-it-to-me.607557/#post-89982774

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It absolutely seems like a poor use of money. The two systems really feel like a 'pick one or the other' kind of thing for people with both platforms. You're not going to be able to get the maximum value out of either one on a month to month basis if you're paying for both.

No subscription service is going to be worth it to someone who rapidly refreshes that forum to get the first reply in as often as possible every single day.

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« Reply #24658 on: July 14, 2022, 03:04:24 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/final-fantasy-16-ditched-turn-based-combat-to-appeal-to-younger-generations-producer-says.607527/page-14

Basically an entire thread shitting on ComedySmasher, telling him to shut the fuck up and get a life  :lol
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« Reply #24659 on: July 14, 2022, 03:06:54 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/subscribing-to-both-game-pass-and-ps-plus-extra-does-not-seem-worth-it-to-me.607557/#post-89982774

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It absolutely seems like a poor use of money. The two systems really feel like a 'pick one or the other' kind of thing for people with both platforms. You're not going to be able to get the maximum value out of either one on a month to month basis if you're paying for both.

No subscription service is going to be worth it to someone who rapidly refreshes that forum to get the first reply in as often as possible every single day.
I also have to ask how many people own both platforms that aren't already buying all the games they want? Surely someone who owns both platforms and wants access to a large library of older titles to play inbetween their occasional new games would be an incredibly niche person. I have to imagine they're even more niche than a person who owns both platforms and will subscribe anyway because they're well... the kind of person who becomes a ResetERA.com member. An idiot like PlanetSmasher subscribing while never playing anything seems less niche than this theoretical person does.