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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25560 on: July 27, 2022, 06:39:14 AM »
From the revenue generated by outrage clickbait :trumps
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« Reply #25561 on: July 27, 2022, 07:31:07 AM »
I always find it weird how these people openly and proudly welcome cultural segregation. You either stay in your "cultural lane" or be prepared to be accused of cultural appropriation, if not outright racism, no matter how respectful you treat the material.

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« Reply #25562 on: July 27, 2022, 08:04:35 AM »
In Asia they make games like what if Napoleon had a waifu army or what if Dick Cheney collected child brains, ate nanomachines and pilots a metal gear.

And at the same we should not complain that WW2 soldiers have purple hair and colored limbs.

However misrepresenting fucking robots is now a culture crime. And I don't mean actual fucking robots like in Nier Automata.
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« Reply #25563 on: July 27, 2022, 08:50:17 AM »
I'm not holding my breath. A similar sentiment is "well then stop watching the movies if you're so upset by it", which leans into this willfully misguided idea that the onus to fight worker exploitation is on the consumer making "conscious choices" in which there are like... no meaningful alternatives?

There are no meaningful alternatives to watching Marvel movies?

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« Reply #25564 on: July 27, 2022, 09:43:14 AM »
"More time to pleasure my lady..."

I don't know, that strikes me as one of the creepiest things you could type, self-awareness or not.

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« Reply #25565 on: July 27, 2022, 09:51:43 AM »
I'm not holding my breath. A similar sentiment is "well then stop watching the movies if you're so upset by it", which leans into this willfully misguided idea that the onus to fight worker exploitation is on the consumer making "conscious choices" in which there are like... no meaningful alternatives?

There are no meaningful alternatives to watching Marvel movies?

 :doge  :existential

Willfully misguided idea of having actual convictions? No meaningful alternatives.  aka I NEED DA SUPAHEWO MOOVIE

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25566 on: July 27, 2022, 10:24:53 AM »
I see Ree made a new Sony OT and nothing about respect women and their rights on the title :thinking

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25567 on: July 27, 2022, 10:53:30 AM »
I always find it weird how these people openly and proudly welcome cultural segregation. You either stay in your "cultural lane" or be prepared to be accused of cultural appropriation, if not outright racism, no matter how respectful you treat the material.

it's probably more a race thing than a culture thing tbh, because fucking with norse and greek mythology isn't exactly off limits to the average progressive american  :engel

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25568 on: July 27, 2022, 11:02:20 AM »
That Kotaku article looks like something from The Onion. Jesus Christ  :lol

I don’t know how people like that are able to tie their shoes without having a breakdown.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25569 on: July 27, 2022, 11:10:26 AM »
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If you’ve felt uncomfortable about the rice paddy hats in Stray, you aren’t the only one. Stray lifts Asian aesthetics to evoke exoticism and danger, but it doesn’t engage with the history of the city it appropriates. This is especially problematic because its real-world setting carries painful historical baggage that can’t be reduced to neon signs and cramped apartments.
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Thankfully, Stray meets the bare minimum of not racist language to describe the robots (even if its gratuitous use of the Japanese language in fictional Hong Kong is a bit eyebrow-raising). But the game’s rampant appropriation of Asian history and culture needs to be supported by care in design and implementation. Singapore-based Alexis Ong wrote an excellent Polygon article about Stray’s accuracy to Hong Kong, while others like Lam are less impressed by how the game portrayed the Walled City.

“The graffiti and signage is a huge question mark. Anything in English is clearly player facing but [in-game], who would those tags be for?” Lam told Kotaku. “It’s one thing if it’s robots passing messages to each other but some overlap each other instead of being written around each other. Which calls into question if said developers also understand graffiti culture and the etiquette. But also...Why deliberately make some robots wear rice hats? When there’s clearly no way to go outside or anywhere in game to farm?”
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I’m sure that the developers weren’t gleefully rubbing their hands together when they decided not to implement any human characters. But Walled City 99 was yet another cyberpunk city in which people like me weren’t welcome. Not unless I was a robot in a conical hat. And that doesn’t sit well with me either. “Asian Robot” is a Hollywood troupe that frequently dehumanizes Asian people (Ex Machina, Cloud Atlas, The Matrix). There’s even a genre name for it: Techno-orientalism. In these works, Asia is expressed through “an aesthetic sensibility rather than by representing or centering actual Asian characters.” Stray falls squarely within this genre.

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bernardg
7/25/22 5:58pm

Yet this site name is Kotaku. If there is a sense of irony about “appropriation” being ignored here... *shrugged*
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:drudge this guy is not grappling with the history :drudge

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25570 on: July 27, 2022, 11:16:56 AM »
I hope next up is a cyberpunk game that contains zero asian elements so they can bitch about erasure.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25571 on: July 27, 2022, 11:26:07 AM »
“We need to hold developers accountable for not being diverse!!”

*developers begin including more diverse characters and settings*

“No not like that this makes me uncomfortable”

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25572 on: July 27, 2022, 11:33:01 AM »
I'm not holding my breath. A similar sentiment is "well then stop watching the movies if you're so upset by it", which leans into this willfully misguided idea that the onus to fight worker exploitation is on the consumer making "conscious choices" in which there are like... no meaningful alternatives?

There are no meaningful alternatives to watching Marvel movies?

 :doge  :existential

the actual solution is inherently to dismantle capitalism and neocolonialism.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25573 on: July 27, 2022, 11:41:06 AM »
I'm not holding my breath. A similar sentiment is "well then stop watching the movies if you're so upset by it", which leans into this willfully misguided idea that the onus to fight worker exploitation is on the consumer making "conscious choices" in which there are like... no meaningful alternatives?

There are no meaningful alternatives to watching Marvel movies?

 :doge  :existential

the actual solution is inherently to dismantle capitalism and neocolonialism.

Or if people actually cared about the VFX artists getting paid they'd donate to their private ko-fis. Leave Feige alone, he's taking a nap.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25574 on: July 27, 2022, 11:49:36 AM »
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If you’ve felt uncomfortable about the rice paddy hats in Stray, you aren’t the only one. Stray lifts Asian aesthetics to evoke exoticism and danger, but it doesn’t engage with the history of the city it appropriates. This is especially problematic because its real-world setting carries painful historical baggage that can’t be reduced to neon signs and cramped apartments.
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Thankfully, Stray meets the bare minimum of not racist language to describe the robots (even if its gratuitous use of the Japanese language in fictional Hong Kong is a bit eyebrow-raising). But the game’s rampant appropriation of Asian history and culture needs to be supported by care in design and implementation. Singapore-based Alexis Ong wrote an excellent Polygon article about Stray’s accuracy to Hong Kong, while others like Lam are less impressed by how the game portrayed the Walled City.

“The graffiti and signage is a huge question mark. Anything in English is clearly player facing but [in-game], who would those tags be for?” Lam told Kotaku. “It’s one thing if it’s robots passing messages to each other but some overlap each other instead of being written around each other. Which calls into question if said developers also understand graffiti culture and the etiquette. But also...Why deliberately make some robots wear rice hats? When there’s clearly no way to go outside or anywhere in game to farm?”
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I’m sure that the developers weren’t gleefully rubbing their hands together when they decided not to implement any human characters. But Walled City 99 was yet another cyberpunk city in which people like me weren’t welcome. Not unless I was a robot in a conical hat. And that doesn’t sit well with me either. “Asian Robot” is a Hollywood troupe that frequently dehumanizes Asian people (Ex Machina, Cloud Atlas, The Matrix). There’s even a genre name for it: Techno-orientalism. In these works, Asia is expressed through “an aesthetic sensibility rather than by representing or centering actual Asian characters.” Stray falls squarely within this genre.

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bernardg
7/25/22 5:58pm

Yet this site name is Kotaku. If there is a sense of irony about “appropriation” being ignored here... *shrugged*
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:drudge this guy is not grappling with the history :drudge

kotaku's comment system is a trash

I wanted to reply to someone on there and it was like "CONNECT WITH GOOGLE FACEBOOK OR TWITTER" and I'm like bitch I'm not attaching a real identity to this garbage where someone will literally call my boss to tell them I'm doin' a genocide

there is a link that says "or click here to use a burner account" so I click there and it asks me to log in, and I assume this means I'm creating an account, but no, I need an already established burner account somehow? and there is no link anywhere to create one

so I use a burner gmail to register with "kinja" whatever that is, and it creates an account for me, and I go to reply and it still prompts me to log in, and I click to do it and nothing happens

anyway all I wanted to do was reply to

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Same with the rice-hats: it’s not so much that it isn’t believable IMO, it’s more that it is kind of a tired trope that is overused in all media as the shorthand for “here be Asia!” when there is so much other cool cultural stuff that could be used instead or in addition.

what the fuck examples exist which accomplish the dual goals of signifying to the average player that "there is Asian influence here" while simultaneously being above reproach and not fodder for such an article

I'm picturing robots in kimonos with noodles? fireworks? dragon costumes? buddhas? all :wag problematic :wag
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25575 on: July 27, 2022, 11:54:09 AM »
The Robots could all listen to k-pop (but in an authentic way, not in a white girl listening to k-pop way).
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25576 on: July 27, 2022, 12:06:31 PM »
Would you take $1 million guaranteed, or flip a coin for $100MM?


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I find the question offensive. No offense intended to OP there.

It's the same thing with lottery tickets aka tax on the poor. Rich people have less need of a million so they'll flip the coin for sure. Big win for them potentially, or carry on being rich if not. Poor people meanwhile may not have the luxury of taking a chance on the coin toss, even though there's a 50% chance they miss out on 100x the money.



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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25577 on: July 27, 2022, 12:16:10 PM »
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If you’ve felt uncomfortable about the rice paddy hats in Stray, you aren’t the only one. Stray lifts Asian aesthetics to evoke exoticism and danger, but it doesn’t engage with the history of the city it appropriates. This is especially problematic because its real-world setting carries painful historical baggage that can’t be reduced to neon signs and cramped apartments.
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Thankfully, Stray meets the bare minimum of not racist language to describe the robots (even if its gratuitous use of the Japanese language in fictional Hong Kong is a bit eyebrow-raising). But the game’s rampant appropriation of Asian history and culture needs to be supported by care in design and implementation. Singapore-based Alexis Ong wrote an excellent Polygon article about Stray’s accuracy to Hong Kong, while others like Lam are less impressed by how the game portrayed the Walled City.

“The graffiti and signage is a huge question mark. Anything in English is clearly player facing but [in-game], who would those tags be for?” Lam told Kotaku. “It’s one thing if it’s robots passing messages to each other but some overlap each other instead of being written around each other. Which calls into question if said developers also understand graffiti culture and the etiquette. But also...Why deliberately make some robots wear rice hats? When there’s clearly no way to go outside or anywhere in game to farm?”
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I’m sure that the developers weren’t gleefully rubbing their hands together when they decided not to implement any human characters. But Walled City 99 was yet another cyberpunk city in which people like me weren’t welcome. Not unless I was a robot in a conical hat. And that doesn’t sit well with me either. “Asian Robot” is a Hollywood troupe that frequently dehumanizes Asian people (Ex Machina, Cloud Atlas, The Matrix). There’s even a genre name for it: Techno-orientalism. In these works, Asia is expressed through “an aesthetic sensibility rather than by representing or centering actual Asian characters.” Stray falls squarely within this genre.

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bernardg
7/25/22 5:58pm

Yet this site name is Kotaku. If there is a sense of irony about “appropriation” being ignored here... *shrugged*
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(Image removed from quote.)

:drudge this guy is not grappling with the history :drudge

kotaku's comment system is a trash

I wanted to reply to someone on there and it was like "CONNECT WITH GOOGLE FACEBOOK OR TWITTER" and I'm like bitch I'm not attaching a real identity to this garbage where someone will literally call my boss to tell them I'm doin' a genocide

there is a link that says "or click here to use a burner account" so I click there and it asks me to log in, and I assume this means I'm creating an account, but no, I need an already established burner account somehow? and there is no link anywhere to create one

so I use a burner gmail to register with "kinja" whatever that is, and it creates an account for me, and I go to reply and it still prompts me to log in, and I click to do it and nothing happens

It gets even better

I actually went through the bother of making an account a while back and even when you have an account your comment needs to be approved first or else it'll only appear in the "pending" section, and of course no one over there at Kotaku is bothering to approve critical comments. There's also no indication of what it takes for your account to get out of that "comment approval" phase.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25578 on: July 27, 2022, 12:31:26 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-draganballs-kamehameha-the-most-iconic-attack-of-all-time.612660/page-3#post-90641382

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Well let's be real. If we're talking about the most iconic attack in all of worldwide fiction, it's the crucifixion. They put that shit on jewelry.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25579 on: July 27, 2022, 12:38:35 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-draganballs-kamehameha-the-most-iconic-attack-of-all-time.612660/page-3#post-90641382

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Well let's be real. If we're talking about the most iconic attack in all of worldwide fiction, it's the crucifixion. They put that shit on jewelry.

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That's pretty funny tho.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25580 on: July 27, 2022, 12:41:00 PM »
Weird how it’s an industry wide issue and yet we don’t really see talk about it as an industry wide issue until Marvel is being criticized. And some in that thread “oh it’s actually the VFX studios fault”  :lol

Brain washing on a Jim Jones level. Terrifying.

I don't think it's ludicrous to have those discussions, because there's some truth to it. Some of it might be a little on the side of deflection.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25581 on: July 27, 2022, 01:59:56 PM »
Counterargument: why do they do this? Because people keep complaining about perfectly good CGI about "how shitty" it looks and how marvel should do better.

 :curious
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25582 on: July 27, 2022, 02:08:03 PM »
Counterargument: why do they do this? Because people keep complaining about perfectly good CGI about "how shitty" it looks and how marvel should do better.

 :curious

I don't know why shit Marvel CG still has defenders after we had Dune and Batman in quick succession, both with almost flawlessly executed vfx.

The reality is that producing Marvel movies and shows so quickly while maintaining quality CG throughout the entire movie just doesn't seem feasible.

Also too funny how Crossing Eden and Zeovgm are nowhere to be found in that thread

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25583 on: July 27, 2022, 02:25:14 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/conservative-leadership-candidate-rishi-sunak-pushes-sinophobia-as-part-of-leadership-campaign.612150/#post-90579333
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:cop User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissing Concerns of Sinophobia
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That's not Sinophobia. We're talking about a country that's literally committing genocide and threatening to invade other countries. It's just using the "criticizing Israel is anti-Semitic" trick but on China. Sinophobia is a real thing and we definitely need to tackle it directly, but this is not Sinophobia.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/conservative-leadership-candidate-rishi-sunak-pushes-sinophobia-as-part-of-leadership-campaign.612150/#post-90581529
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:cop User Banned (2 Weeks): Excusing sinophobia across a series of posts
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Wild how people still go for the ”akshually it’s CCP” thing. Imagine going into any thread on Russia’s war crimes and trying to act all ”guys please stop saying Russia it’s just Russian government” as that is the most important thing. Country with concentration camps and people still on this shit
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25584 on: July 27, 2022, 02:33:28 PM »
It's going to be a fun day on ResetEra when China rains down cruise missiles on Taiwan and shoots Pelosi out of the sky.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25585 on: July 27, 2022, 02:39:57 PM »
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If you’ve felt uncomfortable about the rice paddy hats in Stray, you aren’t the only one. Stray lifts Asian aesthetics to evoke exoticism and danger, but it doesn’t engage with the history of the city it appropriates. This is especially problematic because its real-world setting carries painful historical baggage that can’t be reduced to neon signs and cramped apartments.
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Thankfully, Stray meets the bare minimum of not racist language to describe the robots (even if its gratuitous use of the Japanese language in fictional Hong Kong is a bit eyebrow-raising). But the game’s rampant appropriation of Asian history and culture needs to be supported by care in design and implementation. Singapore-based Alexis Ong wrote an excellent Polygon article about Stray’s accuracy to Hong Kong, while others like Lam are less impressed by how the game portrayed the Walled City.

“The graffiti and signage is a huge question mark. Anything in English is clearly player facing but [in-game], who would those tags be for?” Lam told Kotaku. “It’s one thing if it’s robots passing messages to each other but some overlap each other instead of being written around each other. Which calls into question if said developers also understand graffiti culture and the etiquette. But also...Why deliberately make some robots wear rice hats? When there’s clearly no way to go outside or anywhere in game to farm?”
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I’m sure that the developers weren’t gleefully rubbing their hands together when they decided not to implement any human characters. But Walled City 99 was yet another cyberpunk city in which people like me weren’t welcome. Not unless I was a robot in a conical hat. And that doesn’t sit well with me either. “Asian Robot” is a Hollywood troupe that frequently dehumanizes Asian people (Ex Machina, Cloud Atlas, The Matrix). There’s even a genre name for it: Techno-orientalism. In these works, Asia is expressed through “an aesthetic sensibility rather than by representing or centering actual Asian characters.” Stray falls squarely within this genre.

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bernardg
7/25/22 5:58pm

Yet this site name is Kotaku. If there is a sense of irony about “appropriation” being ignored here... *shrugged*
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:drudge this guy is not grappling with the history :drudge

kotaku's comment system is a trash

I wanted to reply to someone on there and it was like "CONNECT WITH GOOGLE FACEBOOK OR TWITTER" and I'm like bitch I'm not attaching a real identity to this garbage where someone will literally call my boss to tell them I'm doin' a genocide

there is a link that says "or click here to use a burner account" so I click there and it asks me to log in, and I assume this means I'm creating an account, but no, I need an already established burner account somehow? and there is no link anywhere to create one

so I use a burner gmail to register with "kinja" whatever that is, and it creates an account for me, and I go to reply and it still prompts me to log in, and I click to do it and nothing happens

anyway all I wanted to do was reply to

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Same with the rice-hats: it’s not so much that it isn’t believable IMO, it’s more that it is kind of a tired trope that is overused in all media as the shorthand for “here be Asia!” when there is so much other cool cultural stuff that could be used instead or in addition.

what the fuck examples exist which accomplish the dual goals of signifying to the average player that "there is Asian influence here" while simultaneously being above reproach and not fodder for such an article

I'm picturing robots in kimonos with noodles? fireworks? dragon costumes? buddhas? all :wag problematic :wag
Just give the robots slanty eyes and be done with it. Maybe show them doing martial arts or something...I don't know.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25586 on: July 27, 2022, 03:13:41 PM »
I always find it weird how these people openly and proudly welcome cultural segregation. You either stay in your "cultural lane" or be prepared to be accused of cultural appropriation, if not outright racism, no matter how respectful you treat the material.
I hope next up is a cyberpunk game that contains zero asian elements so they can bitch about erasure.
It's almost like their goal is to leverage actual concerns purely to create a culture of fear in which they can feel better by tearing down others who dare to create or might escape their racial/cultural milieu. :hmm

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« Reply #25587 on: July 27, 2022, 03:21:26 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/conservative-leadership-candidate-rishi-sunak-pushes-sinophobia-as-part-of-leadership-campaign.612150/#post-90579333
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:cop User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissing Concerns of Sinophobia
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That's not Sinophobia. We're talking about a country that's literally committing genocide and threatening to invade other countries. It's just using the "criticizing Israel is anti-Semitic" trick but on China. Sinophobia is a real thing and we definitely need to tackle it directly, but this is not Sinophobia.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/conservative-leadership-candidate-rishi-sunak-pushes-sinophobia-as-part-of-leadership-campaign.612150/#post-90581529
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:cop User Banned (2 Weeks): Excusing sinophobia across a series of posts
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Wild how people still go for the ”akshually it’s CCP” thing. Imagine going into any thread on Russia’s war crimes and trying to act all ”guys please stop saying Russia it’s just Russian government” as that is the most important thing. Country with concentration camps and people still on this shit
Best part is that if someone starts doing this in the future about some country ("you mean the Israeli government, not Israel which is the people") either to prove the point or legitimately out of concerns they'd ban them, probably permanently, for trolling, etc.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25588 on: July 27, 2022, 03:55:11 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/eidos-montreal-founder-i-heard-rumours-that-sony-said-theyre-really-interested-in-acquiring-square-enix-tokyo-but-not-the-rest.612183/page-17#post-90651318
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The narratives people want to drive without anything to back those up is incredible. Concern trolling is ridiculous in this thread. It’s fine to be against such a deal (as long as you’re consistently against all these acquisitions, and not console warring) but quit with your agendas and propaganda. It’s embarrassing.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25589 on: July 27, 2022, 04:07:00 PM »

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« Reply #25590 on: July 27, 2022, 04:12:31 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/iman-vellani-ms-marvel-used-burner-reddit-accounts-to-engage-in-nerd-discussion-and-tell-people-their-mcu-theory-was-wrong.612726/page-2#post-90651021
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Sorry to be cynical, but this seems a bit too on the nose to be "organic" to me.

(I actually had no problem believing it until people showed all those comics where the character basically does this)
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Brown kids cant be comic book nerds? Iman Velani basically is the character she is playing, she's like a lot of us were growing up. We loved Marvel comics but we didnt see ourselves in them. She not only gets to be part of the generation of Muslims that finally gets some representation in comics, she gets to embody the role that gives us a rare positive version of our culture to appreciate that is not often seen in Hollywood media

This kinda thing is a big part of why they picked her, aside from the superpowers she was basically cut from the same cloth as Kamala
What does her skin have to do with being a comic nerd?

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« Reply #25591 on: July 27, 2022, 04:25:02 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/got-first-work-complaints-about-me.612768/#post-90651159
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Reflect on the criticism, which it seems like you've done. Do your best to take it to heart and improve. Don't freak out about it. It doesn't sound like a big deal. Do not talk to your co-workers about it. Do not listen to people on Era who are going to tell you that you did nothing wrong and it's some kind of injustice. Please don't let Era rile you up.
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Those feel like some real scraping the bottom of the barrel to find something to complain about things.

Did you piss someone off or something?
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it's other people's jobs to manage their own time, not yours imo. if someone asks me to do something and I'm busy, I just say "I would help but I'm pretty busy right now, sorry, let me know if I can help later."

how is that something to complain about someone over?
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pettiness and fragile egos

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25592 on: July 27, 2022, 04:39:49 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-next-generation-of-nimbys-the-atlantic.612729/#post-90647862

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Without a doubt. People have learned nothing. They just want theirs. Nihilism feels like the only option to not die curled up on the floor completely disheartened at the state of humanity. Someday I’ll figure out how to stop caring.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25593 on: July 27, 2022, 05:21:57 PM »
https://twitter.com/politicalawake/status/1552027557079433216

Finally RE can enjoy manga
I guess the Sony buy out rumors are true

In any case I don't see any benefit for Sony to buy Square Enix.
It's not just games, it's a publishing house of many things that are useless to them like these apps and others services they run and no one cares about.

Final Fantasy hasn't been a system seller in like forever and releases on PlayStation anyway. SE is doing pretty well financially so it's a very expensive buy at the moment (market cap of ~$5 billion so you'd probably have to bid higher).
Sony basically turned away from the type of games Square Enix develops apart from their AAA+ tentpole PlayStation releases that have mostly found a home on the Switch and Steam.

So either Sony would have to release games on Nintendo platforms or they would have to downsize Square Enix significantly to not make it a money sink.
It's kind of like when Microsoft bought Rare, a fanboy dream on paper but a terrible idea in reality.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25594 on: July 27, 2022, 05:37:31 PM »
So NBC and CNN paid this kid for nothing?

They acknowledged their responsibility in defaming a minor by signal boosting a literally fake news story

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25595 on: July 27, 2022, 05:58:53 PM »
They acknowledged their responsibility in defaming a minor by signal boosting a literally fake news story
Gawker just ran a story that Thomas Chatterton Williams was at the Alex Jones film premiere even though he wasn't and there's all kinds of "progressives" responding to tweets about it with "who cares if it was wrong? He sucks!"

Meanwhile, they also want to sue and/or prosecute Hulu because it refuses to run political ads even though Roe was overturned.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25596 on: July 27, 2022, 06:07:18 PM »
I was hoping TCW sues Gawker into the ground for libel to finally ring their deathknell after all the shit they pull, but I think they took the article down so quickly that they get to get away scott-free.


Gawker previously published an erroneous article about Thomas Chatterton Williams. As a result, we’ve removed the piece. We regret the error.


If this keeps you away from liability I would just have a publication that writes fake, crazy, libelous shit all day long, and just delete it after the story gets its legs. 

 :cody  First we get the clicks, then we get the chicks

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25597 on: July 27, 2022, 06:38:28 PM »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25598 on: July 27, 2022, 07:09:40 PM »
The irony of posting this on Ree of all places -

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Yeah, it feels like there's been a big uptick in people doing horrible stuff to devs and other people being willing to ignore or give cover to that bullshit because they don't like the game or a person on the team or whatever.

How many devs have been hounded off B Dub's forum?


https://www.resetera.com/threads/bungie-has-reduced-communication-with-destiny-2-community-due-to-real-threats-toward-our-people-and-studio.612798/#post-90656259

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25599 on: July 27, 2022, 07:19:00 PM »
The irony of posting this on Ree of all places -

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Yeah, it feels like there's been a big uptick in people doing horrible stuff to devs and other people being willing to ignore or give cover to that bullshit because they don't like the game or a person on the team or whatever.

How many devs have been hounded off B Dub's forum?


https://www.resetera.com/threads/bungie-has-reduced-communication-with-destiny-2-community-due-to-real-threats-toward-our-people-and-studio.612798/#post-90656259
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More like adults who never developed past childhood.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25600 on: July 27, 2022, 07:22:08 PM »
GTA games end up with the protag being an unstoppable, rich killing machine. I'm curious how folks will respond to a female POC being that character. Or them touching on systemic racism.


After the character runs over a dude on a bicycle, then steals it to get close to the police station to uzi down some cops.

*cutscene*


" Ayo, CJ!  There are severe entrenched racial issues in the fabric of this country that aren't being addressed by current legislation, man!  We got to do better!"

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« Reply #25601 on: July 27, 2022, 07:40:35 PM »

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« Reply #25602 on: July 27, 2022, 07:43:21 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/got-first-work-complaints-about-me.612768/#post-90651159
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Reflect on the criticism, which it seems like you've done. Do your best to take it to heart and improve. Don't freak out about it. It doesn't sound like a big deal. Do not talk to your co-workers about it. Do not listen to people on Era who are going to tell you that you did nothing wrong and it's some kind of injustice. Please don't let Era rile you up.
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Those feel like some real scraping the bottom of the barrel to find something to complain about things.

Did you piss someone off or something?
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it's other people's jobs to manage their own time, not yours imo. if someone asks me to do something and I'm busy, I just say "I would help but I'm pretty busy right now, sorry, let me know if I can help later."

how is that something to complain about someone over?
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pettiness and fragile egos

Oh! Ooooooh. This got better.

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I will admit: nothing has consistently pissed me off more on the floor of any job I've had than someone always asking me to do something I know very well they can do, whether it's retrieving materials, helping a customer, working a queue in the system, whatever.

It's one thing to where shit is backing up and we need to refocus, or we've done a lot of work over the hours and are rechecking what needs to be done. Or if it's an every-now-and-again "Yo, can you pass that pen for me?" But folks asking me multiple times daily to do basic tasks for them, as if I also don't have work to do, send me up the fucking wall. It's just my nature; if I need something done within the confines of my task I just do it myself. I've got arms and legs; I don't need you to physically do my job for me. So my initial judgement in these scenarios becomes "Why are you so lazy that you can't do it?"

At that point I feel like you're taking advantage of my work ethic and kindness. On top of that, it also puts you in a weird position because it's difficult to counter these kinds of requests and not be an asshole. How do you come across as a team player by going "No, I'm not doing that for you?" I haven't found a way to work around these kinds of coworkers in an amicable manner that keeps the atmosphere jovial, so usually I become the office pack mule. However, I've had one pharmacist take me to the side and ask me "why are you doing everything for them?" and I almost broke down because I had basically running the shop alone for weeks at that point.

That's probably why your coworkers never told you about that specific problem to your face. No one wants to be the jerk that doesn't cooperate with others.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25603 on: July 27, 2022, 07:57:50 PM »
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t's one thing to where shit is backing up and we need to refocus, or we've done a lot of work over the hours and are rechecking what needs to be done. Or if it's an every-now-and-again "Yo, can you pass that pen for me?" But folks asking me multiple times daily to do basic tasks for them, as if I also don't have work to do, send me up the fucking wall. It's just my nature; if I need something done within the confines of my task I just do it myself. I've got arms and legs; I don't need you to physically do my job for me. So my initial judgement in these scenarios becomes "Why are you so lazy that you can't do it?"

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However, I've had one pharmacist take me to the side and ask me "why are you doing everything for them?" and I almost broke down because I had basically running the shop alone for weeks at that point.

She works at a pharmacy, isn't a pharmacist, and thinks she's running the whole thing herself.   ....To the extent that people saying, "Yo, can you pass that pen for me?" is a disruption on her productivity.   We really need to tear down capitalism, because this is untenable.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25604 on: July 27, 2022, 08:07:34 PM »
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Yeah, it feels like there's been a big uptick in people doing horrible stuff to devs and other people being willing to ignore or give cover to that bullshit because they don't like the game or a person on the team or whatever.
Oh, hey, you mean like accusing entire companies of contributing to violence, murder and even genocide because of a single tweet or piece of art?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25605 on: July 27, 2022, 08:43:50 PM »
Just Morrigan doing Morrigan things -

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Do all bosses have some annoying, unskippable, tedious fight with a bunch of mooks before triggering the proper boss fight itself? Also, who thought this was a good idea?

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No. Actual bosses do not. You're prob just fighting like a slightly stronger normal enemy.

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The Wooden Knight wasn't a boss? It had a big HP bar and a name and it required a bunch of retries. That's a boss to me. Whether or not it counts as a "boss", the point stands. Having to redo the tedious archery segment before that was insufferable.

Honestly this game is a bit underwhelming so far.

It has many janky and frustrating elements. Being forced to re-do the bow encounter before the Wooden Knight is a complete waste of time, just tedious and frustrating. And I was raging at the treetop encounter, where every now and then I'd accidentally target the blue flower instead of the mob enemy next to it. And of course it spawns tons of annoying flying enemies and the bow recharges slooooooooowly. And the super annoying purple spear throwers (whose spears explode and knock you off, like a horrible mix of Anor Londo archers and the millwood greatarrows in DS3) are kind of tanky and out of reach so once again you have to wait for the arrows to recharge while dodging multiple projectiles and... urgh, fuck that part. And then the Shrine Guardian boss just spams adds constantly.... why is this still a thing >_<

I picked Expert, should I drop to Normal? I heard it's "autopilot" on normal, which would make it even more boring. But right now it's just frustrating more than challenging.

Oh, oh, the camera. My god, fuck the camera in this game. I found out that you can turn off the auto-follow on enemies (it wasn't there in the INITIAL options when I booted the game, so I didn't think to check for that until much later), but whose idea was it to leave that on by default?! So many times, I'd toggle off the lock-on so I could run towards the health flower but the camera just kept following the enemy anyway. Even with all the bullshit turned off now, the camera is still not great though it's a bit more manageable now. Oh btw, I really dislike the healing system in this, too.

A lot of the secrets/puzzles or optional encounters seem to only yield that currency to buy hats as a reward, too. More waste of time...

All the environments are very, very samey so far, and the story is boring. :\

I really want to like this game. I'll keep playing for now but I'm not super impressed. But in the interest of not sounding too negative, I can say that game is pretty, and the Rot are very cute.

Errmahgawwd these bosses are soo annoying

They're not bosses

Ackshually they had a red bar and killed me a bunch of times so I'm right.


Errrmahgawwwd Why is this game is so difficult?

So tedious. I keep dying.

Expert difficulty shouldn't be this hard.


Errmahhhgawwd the camera in this game is so bad.

Uh. Do they seriously expect me to go into a menu and change the camera settings myself? Lazy devs amirite?





https://www.resetera.com/threads/kena-bridge-of-spirits-ot-spirited-away.488266/page-47





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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25606 on: July 27, 2022, 09:04:30 PM »
Regarding the struggling VFX artist, somehow Reset always seems to ignore that one guy who consistently gets praise from every working corner of the industry in Zack fucking Snyder.  :umad

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25607 on: July 27, 2022, 09:30:48 PM »
31 page thread about Xenoblade 3 special edition.

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« Reply #25608 on: July 27, 2022, 09:34:38 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-grand-theft-auto-vi-will-have-female-main-character-for-first-time-in-series-history-latina-protag-set-in-vice-city-scheduled-fy2024.612579/page-5#post-90631857
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User banned (permanent): Sexism. Account in junior phase
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I hate female protagonists, I can't relate to them.
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uhh...what?
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I'm pretty sure it's sarcasm based on initial reactions to San Andreas having CJ...If you weren't on the old forum during that period, you probably won't get the reference (at least I'm assuming, hopefully)
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Going by your logic, imagine how the other half of the world feels about make protagonists...

As for me, I'm happy that there's some representation. Having a choice is always better but I also understand that GTA chars are heavily scripted to be a generic avatar.

Edit. There's a sizeable chance that it was a sarcastic comment, so don't take it personally
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Judging by their other posts this was no sarcasm lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25609 on: July 27, 2022, 09:42:21 PM »
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Yeah, it feels like there's been a big uptick in people doing horrible stuff to devs and other people being willing to ignore or give cover to that bullshit because they don't like the game or a person on the team or whatever.
Oh, hey, you mean like accusing entire companies of contributing to violence, murder and even genocide because of a single tweet or piece of art?

To be fair, things have improved since Frank O‘Connor stopped working at Bungie. If he was there they would have had the juneteenth skin called bonobo because Frank can’t help himself in his hatred for black people.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25610 on: July 27, 2022, 09:55:13 PM »
Couldn’t you already play as a lady in GTA Online? Only difference here is it’ll inform the Oscar worthy stories in these games?

Regarding the struggling VFX artist, somehow Reset always seems to ignore that one guy who consistently gets praise from every working corner of the industry in Zack fucking Snyder.  :umad

Within WB, Eastwood, Snyder, and Nolan were three guys notoriously great to work with, making movies at their scale. Even limited to Disney, JJ Abrams has a good rep among crews.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25611 on: July 27, 2022, 10:28:06 PM »
Regarding the struggling VFX artist, somehow Reset always seems to ignore that one guy who consistently gets praise from every working corner of the industry in Zack fucking Snyder.  :umad

Too bad he is a talentless hack that needs bots to overhype him.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25612 on: July 27, 2022, 10:48:25 PM »
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Can you imagine a thread on the gaming side about a systemic crunch issue at a particular studio being met with a poster saying 'Nah this isn't this studio's fault, so much as the fault of the industry at large'.

The corporate shilling on display here is embarrassing.
Says the biggest shill of them all just because it says marvel your pretending that it's the only on them but if it comes out avatar or any of your favourites than you'll ignore it and pretend that it doesn't happen.

Unintentionally honest about how their values are based around spite, media consumption, and corporate ball washing. Monsanto should make a Spider-Man movie to win them over.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25613 on: July 28, 2022, 12:38:32 AM »
Scullibundo repeating "fixed release dates" -to wink wink differentiate from James Cameron senpai- a handful of times throughout the thread is a little :lol
Every commercial, professional film (just like most projects) have some deadlines to abide to and besides Disney MCU films gets rescheduled or delayed.
Obviously the tighter the target dates, the more potential for crunch but it's not like the well being of VFX artists is ever a major consideration in delays. Post production is prone to always be crushed because it's the last step, most close to actual release.
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« Reply #25614 on: July 28, 2022, 12:41:09 AM »
I want to buy a ball cap of a sports team, but I know nothing about sports. I do know some fans of teams have rivalries with other fans of teams, so I don't want to buy the wrong cap.

Which team really kind of just, flies under the radar, never arouses anger or resentment?

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« Reply #25615 on: July 28, 2022, 01:01:08 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/got-first-work-complaints-about-me.612768/#post-90672372
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People can be so bullshit and petty. I once had a review that coworkers were annoyed that I brought a coffee to work every morning. Wat.
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LMAO. The person that complained about you sounds like a miserable little vermin.
He types that at ResetEra  :brain

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25616 on: July 28, 2022, 01:35:29 AM »
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« Reply #25617 on: July 28, 2022, 01:37:08 AM »
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Reflect on the criticism, which it seems like you've done. Do your best to take it to heart and improve. Don't freak out about it. It doesn't sound like a big deal. Do not talk to your co-workers about it. Do not listen to people on Era who are going to tell you that you did nothing wrong and it's some kind of injustice. Please don't let Era rile you up.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #25618 on: July 28, 2022, 01:50:00 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/got-first-work-complaints-about-me.612768/#post-90651159
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Reflect on the criticism, which it seems like you've done. Do your best to take it to heart and improve. Don't freak out about it. It doesn't sound like a big deal. Do not talk to your co-workers about it. Do not listen to people on Era who are going to tell you that you did nothing wrong and it's some kind of injustice. Please don't let Era rile you up.
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Those feel like some real scraping the bottom of the barrel to find something to complain about things.

Did you piss someone off or something?
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it's other people's jobs to manage their own time, not yours imo. if someone asks me to do something and I'm busy, I just say "I would help but I'm pretty busy right now, sorry, let me know if I can help later."

how is that something to complain about someone over?
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pettiness and fragile egos

Oh! Ooooooh. This got better.

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I will admit: nothing has consistently pissed me off more on the floor of any job I've had than someone always asking me to do something I know very well they can do, whether it's retrieving materials, helping a customer, working a queue in the system, whatever.

It's one thing to where shit is backing up and we need to refocus, or we've done a lot of work over the hours and are rechecking what needs to be done. Or if it's an every-now-and-again "Yo, can you pass that pen for me?" But folks asking me multiple times daily to do basic tasks for them, as if I also don't have work to do, send me up the fucking wall. It's just my nature; if I need something done within the confines of my task I just do it myself. I've got arms and legs; I don't need you to physically do my job for me. So my initial judgement in these scenarios becomes "Why are you so lazy that you can't do it?"

At that point I feel like you're taking advantage of my work ethic and kindness. On top of that, it also puts you in a weird position because it's difficult to counter these kinds of requests and not be an asshole. How do you come across as a team player by going "No, I'm not doing that for you?" I haven't found a way to work around these kinds of coworkers in an amicable manner that keeps the atmosphere jovial, so usually I become the office pack mule. However, I've had one pharmacist take me to the side and ask me "why are you doing everything for them?" and I almost broke down because I had basically running the shop alone for weeks at that point.

That's probably why your coworkers never told you about that specific problem to your face. No one wants to be the jerk that doesn't cooperate with others.

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Bitch, you stack shelves in a chemist. Shut the fuck up and do the donkey work you're paid for.
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« Reply #25619 on: July 28, 2022, 02:00:39 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/im-growing-a-beard-for-the-first-time.612468/#post-90616242
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BTW you know how when two women hang out their periods sync I heard when two men hang out their beards grow the same way is that true.
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40 mins a day for beard/shaving prep is just straight up a needless waste of time.
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Yeah but I'm picky about how I looked.

Since growing a beard I feel more confident and the ladies have noticed. Feels like I'm talking to more girls than ever. They're super impressed when I show them my huge Digimon collection.
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You know you don’t drink the beard oil, right?
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