Other Forums Containment Thread

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-just-found-out-that-an-action-i-made-may-have-contributed-to-someone-committing-suicide.627844/

I work for an internet service provider in a small town of about 1200. This spring my company got a subpoena from a sheriff's office in another state. They had an IP address and wanted us to give them info on the customer that the IP belonged to. So legally I had to give them all the info I had. A few months later another agency wanted customer info about the same IP address.

Fast forward to today. A coworker texted me saying that this customer (the one with the IP) had committed suicide earlier today. They were under investigation for something I'd rather not say.

Being in a small town this was a person I knew personally. I knew his family and relatives. I have had interactions with him over the past 20 years.

I can't help but feel partially responsible. If I had told the authorities I didn't have any info on that IP address this might not have happened. I understand that I did the right thing and was legally obligated to provide this information. And ultimately it was his actions that led to this. If the allegations are true it was a pretty heinous thing he was involved in. But I am going to be bummed out the next few days or until I get more information about what this was all about.

I'm not really asking for advice just venting about it. Guess I'm still in shock.

[benjipwns]

Bruh, you can't be crying for kiwi. Come on. They got scummed by a based scumbag. She played their scummy game and won. Because the idiot is smarter than them. Clearly. They got burned by an idiot.

If she did indeed lie about everything and doxxed everyone. That is based. She is based for outscumming a group of scumbags.

Suggesting otherwise is being a bitch about this. I couldn't give a fuck about any of them. Probably going to miss the gossip on kiwi.

Nobody got doxed. Cloudflare didn't do anything because of Keffals unless you're saying Keffals posted the bombing threat on the forum.

Try spending two seconds looking at what happened and thinking for yourself, breh.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-just-found-out-that-an-action-i-made-may-have-contributed-to-someone-committing-suicide.627844/

I work for an internet service provider in a small town of about 1200. This spring my company got a subpoena from a sheriff's office in another state. They had an IP address and wanted us to give them info on the customer that the IP belonged to. So legally I had to give them all the info I had. A few months later another agency wanted customer info about the same IP address.

Fast forward to today. A coworker texted me saying that this customer (the one with the IP) had committed suicide earlier today. They were under investigation for something I'd rather not say.

Being in a small town this was a person I knew personally. I knew his family and relatives. I have had interactions with him over the past 20 years.

I can't help but feel partially responsible. If I had told the authorities I didn't have any info on that IP address this might not have happened. I understand that I did the right thing and was legally obligated to provide this information. And ultimately it was his actions that led to this. If the allegations are true it was a pretty heinous thing he was involved in. But I am going to be bummed out the next few days or until I get more information about what this was all about.

I'm not really asking for advice just venting about it. Guess I'm still in shock.

Would you feel better illegally protecting what may have been a predator?

I know I did the right thing, and shouldn't feel guilty. This sort of thing has happened 4 other times in my career. Two of those resulted in arrests that I know of. This is just the first time the person has killed themselves. So, I guess that is why I feel weird about it.

This is 100% by their own choices and actions, you did nothing to cause this.

Also right, the guy presumably killed himself because he was caught and didn't want to go to prison. The suicide wasn't actually related to the actions of the OP other than it was further evidence against the guy. The OP had no way of knowing the guy wouldn't just share a cell with Amir0x instead of killing himself.

[M]

Bruh, you can't be crying for kiwi. Come on. They got scummed by a based scumbag. She played their scummy game and won. Because the idiot is smarter than them. Clearly. They got burned by an idiot.

If she did indeed lie about everything and doxxed everyone. That is based. She is based for outscumming a group of scumbags.

Suggesting otherwise is being a bitch about this. I couldn't give a fuck about any of them. Probably going to miss the gossip on kiwi.

Nobody got doxed. Cloudflare didn't do anything because of Keffals unless you're saying Keffals posted the bombing threat on the forum.

Try spending two seconds looking at what happened and thinking for yourself, breh.

So Keffals actions over the past month or whatever did not lead to kiwi being dropped? But wasn't it literally dropped because somebody threatened her in there because she kept going at the site and demanding it be taken down?

I am not super into this. How does Keffals have nothing to do with this when it was literally a post directed at her due to her campaign that got it dropped?

[benjipwns]

So Keffals actions over the past month or whatever did not lead to kiwi being dropped?

Yes, this is what Cloudflare said.

[Transhuman]

Kiwifarms may be a trash site (it is) but they also post accurate information about some truly fucked up and shady people. Without Kiwi Farm having dossiers, Aimee Challenor would probably still be an administrator on reddit right now.

[M]

So Keffals actions over the past month or whatever did not lead to kiwi being dropped?

Yes, this is what Cloudflare said.

You're being incredibly obtuse. Whilst yes, Cloudflare did say they did not give in directly due to the campaign, they had no choice to give in when threats were directed due to the campaign. So, the campaign did lead to Kiwi being dropped. It caused users in the site to direct threats towards Keffals which in turn led to kiwi being dropped.

That is what Cloudflare said.

[Potato]

I would say Keffals is rather based for that. They pissed her off so she doxxed them and got them taken down. That's incredibly based.


Whilst other trans are whining like pussies, she is doxxing and having sites taken down.

Absolutely disagree. Whoever this Keffals is, they are perpetuating this shithole culture of accusations=evidence. Show me the fucking receipts that prove Kiwi farms is responsible for the swatting and I'll have some sympathy for them when this idiot gets their comeuppance.

You mad af.

Kiwifarm was a scummy site and got taken down by a somebody who played them like fools. You're crying for kiwi like a bitch. Kiwi played the scummy game and got out scummed. Show some appreciation for the winner of the scumming match and stop being a bitch about it.

I give about as many fucks about Kiwi farms as I do for some mentally ill trans YouTuber. I hope they all disappear up their own arses.

[benjipwns]

You're being incredibly obtuse. Whilst yes, Cloudflare did say they did not give in directly due to the campaign, they had no choice to give in when threats were directed due to the campaign. So, the campaign did lead to Kiwi being dropped. It caused users in the site to direct threats towards Keffals which in turn led to kiwi being dropped.

That is what Cloudflare said.

You're being incredibly obtuse. Whilst yes, the briefly existing post was directed towards Keffals in their thread, Tim-Berners Lee is the one who applied the concept of hypertext to the internet. So Tim-Berners Lee is the one who led to Kiwi Farms being dropped from Cloudflare.

[Supermanisdead]

not the kf cope 

[ldcommando (notthegafone)]

Bye bye farms. Darksyde Phil outlives another one.
 

[Uncle]

Very cool if lies can just get websites pulled off the mainstream internet with criminal accusations. What could go wrong?

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apparently someone at the site did post a ridiculously stupid joke about planting bombs at a building...which they quickly deleted themselves since it was in obvious poor taste, not before keffals screenshotted it

and how often do randos make veiled threats on twiiter, or talk about guillotining the rich, or saying "start with jeff bezos/trump?" do we promptly ban those specific idiots, or take the entire site down? hell a lot of times they don't even get banned

[Averon]

KF is already up and running again just fine using a Russian domain, so getting kicked off of CF took the site down for a few hours at best. So what did Keffals achieve other that revealing that CloudFlare never really believed what they said initially in their first statement?

[Uncle]

KF is already up and running again just fine using a Russian domain, so getting kicked off of CF took the site down for a few hours at best. So what did Keffals achieve other that revealing that CloudFlare never really believed what they said initially in their first statement?

not being behind cloudflare means it's only a matter of time before someone commits the largely untraceable federal crime of paying a pittance for a bot farm to ddos the site

that's what cloudflare was talking about, the only reason anyone would want them dropped is in order to expose them to be able to commit a crime

[benjipwns]

not being behind cloudflare means it's only a matter of time before someone commits the largely untraceable federal crime of paying a pittance for a bot farm to ddos the site

that's what cloudflare was talking about, the only reason anyone would want them dropped is in order to expose them to be able to commit a crime

This is explicitly the campaigns goal:

Clara Sorrenti and those supporting her are hoping to open up Kiwi Farms to debilitating virtual attacks by demanding Cloudflare, one of its internet security service vendors, drop the site.

Lots of people have a large interest in making it harder to find information about their lies and scams.

[Averon]

Seems like they are using DDoS Guard now. Who knows if that's true, or if so, how long before DDoS Guard gives in. Though I do see that it's a Russian company, so who know if they give a damn about demands from Western Twitteratti.

[Taco Bell Tower]

From the KF thread

I'm sure they're screenshotting everyone in this thread and fuming, coping and seething that they can't post it on their psycho ass Resetera thread.

I bet resetera still lives rent free in their heads.

fuck those bigot scum.

Isn’t that the site that basically hate-tracks this forum?

[Boredfrom]

I’m not surprised that KiwiFarms went full Russia, and also not surprised that Null was dumb enough to escalate the fight given that he still allowed users to dox Keffals and highlighted the post (and later removed the highlight).

KF is already up and running again just fine using a Russian domain, so getting kicked off of CF took the site down for a few hours at best. So what did Keffals achieve other that revealing that CloudFlare never really believed what they said initially in their first statement?

I will speculate that they probably were honest in their initial statement  given they won little in the PR war about defending their right to exist. But Null, the site owner, is his own worst enemy and tends to be an asshole when is not needed.

[Boredfrom]

Very cool if lies can just get websites pulled off the mainstream internet with criminal accusations. What could go wrong?

(Image removed from quote.)

apparently someone at the site did post a ridiculously stupid joke about planting bombs at a building...which they quickly deleted themselves since it was in obvious poor taste, not before keffals screenshotted it

and how often do randos make veiled threats on twiiter, or talk about guillotining the rich, or saying "start with jeff bezos/trump?" do we promptly ban those specific idiots, or take the entire site down? hell a lot of times they don't even get banned

Dude, they immediately doxed Keffals and was highlighted by the Admin (and later removed the highlight), some mods also warned others that they should stop with the “I want to kill Keffals” shit, so they were pretty aware that it looked horrible. They are as dumb and vindictive as Twitter randoms.

[Uncle]

Very cool if lies can just get websites pulled off the mainstream internet with criminal accusations. What could go wrong?

(Image removed from quote.)

apparently someone at the site did post a ridiculously stupid joke about planting bombs at a building...which they quickly deleted themselves since it was in obvious poor taste, not before keffals screenshotted it

and how often do randos make veiled threats on twiiter, or talk about guillotining the rich, or saying "start with jeff bezos/trump?" do we promptly ban those specific idiots, or take the entire site down? hell a lot of times they don't even get banned

Dude, they immediately doxed Keffals and was highlighted by the Admin (and later removed the highlight), some mods also warned others that they should stop with the “I want to kill Keffals” shit, so they were pretty aware that it looked horrible. They are as dumb and vindictive as Twitter randoms.

correct

so when a twitter random makes a threat, is an appropriate action to take down the entire twitter site? over individual user generated content?

[Boredfrom]

Very cool if lies can just get websites pulled off the mainstream internet with criminal accusations. What could go wrong?

(Image removed from quote.)

apparently someone at the site did post a ridiculously stupid joke about planting bombs at a building...which they quickly deleted themselves since it was in obvious poor taste, not before keffals screenshotted it

and how often do randos make veiled threats on twiiter, or talk about guillotining the rich, or saying "start with jeff bezos/trump?" do we promptly ban those specific idiots, or take the entire site down? hell a lot of times they don't even get banned

Dude, they immediately doxed Keffals and was highlighted by the Admin (and later removed the highlight), some mods also warned others that they should stop with the “I want to kill Keffals” shit, so they were pretty aware that it looked horrible. They are as dumb and vindictive as Twitter randoms.

correct

so when a twitter random makes a threat, is an appropriate action to take down the entire twitter site? over individual user generated content?

But Twitter makes some sort of actual effort to moderate and is used by way more people, a lot of these people don’t have the need to say the n-word every sentence. Twitter also has interest in not making enemies of every single government and not calling them feggits because they are investigating the Christchurch massacre.

The fact that the admin of the site highlighted a Dox from “a random user”, means that he is pretty willing to bend the rules of his own site.

To me, is pretty telling that Null immediately sold himself to Russia and users are saying “Rather have one sided conversation about Ukraine than stop shit talking transsexuals”. The site stopped being about “free speech” since awhile ago.

[benjipwns]

But Twitter makes some sort of actual effort to moderate and is used by way more people, a lot of these people don’t have the need to say the n-word every sentence. Twitter also has interest in not making enemies of every single government and not calling them feggits because they are investigating the Christchurch massacre.

The fact that the admin of the site highlighted a Dox from “a random user”, means that he is pretty willing to bend the rules of his own site.

There's no legal requirement for anyone to moderate anything. There is all kinds of worse content on Twitter.

You're the one asking their rules to be bent by saying they should have made a single exception for some idiot.

New Zealand wasn't investigating the massacre, they were demanding the IPs of everyone who visits the site from New Zealand because the country had made it illegal to see information about the massacre.

I’m not surprised that KiwiFarms went full Russia

To me, is pretty telling that Null immediately sold himself to Russia and users are saying “Rather have one sided conversation about Ukraine than stop shit talking transsexuals”. The site stopped being about “free speech” since awhile ago.

The site remains hosted in America. There's no reason to move it elsewhere as America still has the best free speech protections.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/df-direct-special-did-the-last-of-us-part-1-really-need-a-remake.627742/#post-92599291

Naughty Dog feels like they just don't have it anymore. You'll never see anything original from them ever again. Remake, remasters, and sequels.

It triggered ND stans

[benjipwns]

The sequels thing is potentially true I suppose (though they're kinda down to just one franchise now no?) but he really thinks they're going to just remaster the same games over and over?

I think this remake is a bit silly but they have been pretty clear about how they wanted the first part of the franchise to match the second part better.

[Boredfrom]

  You're the one asking their rules to be bent by saying they should have made a single exception for some idiot.

There were various idiots in that thread threatening to kill Keffals that a mod told them to stop that shit. And still various assholes keep doing thin veiled threats. This kind of stuff was also discouraged precisely to be able to deny dox and harassment.

New Zealand wasn't investigating the massacre, they were demanding the IPs of everyone who visits the site from New Zealand because the country had made it illegal to see information about the massacre.

No reason why Null should have called them feggits publicity and act like an asshole. Other sites also need to deal with unreasonable demands from governments. That was not the only time that he did that and backfired.

[benjipwns]

What are you even arguing?

[Boredfrom]

Null has a small dick.

[benjipwns]

No kinkshaming!

[Uncle]

There were various idiots in that thread threatening to kill Keffals that a mod told them to stop that shit.

and people at era fly as close to the sun as they can dreaming about the deaths of certain people until a mod tells them to stop that shit, guess they ought to be denied DDOS protections as well


you are right that null doesn't seem to have a PR mode that could save him a ton of headache, like, if he ever gets in touch with someone in authority at cloudflare I'm sure he would address them with indignant rage instead of at least pretending to say "hey what can we do to restore our good graces with you"

[Klelk]

Kiwifarms is a terrible site and Null is a whiny lil bitch. I'm with the trans mafia on this one

[Nintex]

So kiwifarms is FSB and that's where they get their intel

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

keffals / kiwifarms / cloudflare thoughtdump;

• Keffals is a target in the same way brianna wu was a target; in that they specifically manuevered themselves into being a target and then making political capital out of it. I can't help but notice brianna wu has also jumped into this backing keffals. Because they're exactly the same kind of person.
• I also can't help but notice most of her positive press is coming from the gawker family, who those of us with functional memories might remember aren't exactly adverse to posting gossipy factoids about barely-a-celebrity private lives and hand waving it as acceptable actions if its an acceptable target
• I think its way more likely it was a Destiny fanboi who swatted her than KF, but twitch beef drama isn't as sexy to the press
• Keffals and her followers use the phrase 'stochastic terrorism' a lot, but what the actual fuck is going after a DDOS prevention utility company and not, say, the actual fucking hosts of a domain, or if you have legal standing the owner in person for things like stalking / slander / libel / conspiracy to commit violence / a bunch of other legal options that aren't vigilante DDOSing?
• If I was donating to someones legal fund, I'd expect that money to pay for a lawyer, not a coordinated capaign against an unrelated third party and new streaming equipment for someone to transition from games streaming to irl streaming. If I was concerned about being doxxed, I wouldn't then go ahead and change my actual job to be constantly filming me everywhere I go and everything I do.

Bringing cloudflare into a cunt v cunt slapfight is like bringing venmo into it because you got scammed by your dealer.

[Propagandhim]

I'm out of the loop.  Why do the kiwis hate this keffals person so much?  I've made two attempts to find out, but got nowhere.  Just "they hate me because I'm trans".   And there's only so much of this stuff I can take if I'm not spoonfed the info.

[Taco Bell Tower]

I'm out of the loop.  Why do the kiwis hate this keffals person so much?  I've made two attempts to find out, but got nowhere.  Just "they hate me because I'm trans".   And there's only so much of this stuff I can take if I'm not spoonfed the info.

According to B-Dumbs

They hate all women. It's who they are. Cis, trans, black, white, you name it.

Yet his forum is the same when it comes to women.

[benjipwns]

I'm out of the loop.  Why do the kiwis hate this keffals person so much?  I've made two attempts to find out, but got nowhere.  Just "they hate me because I'm trans".   And there's only so much of this stuff I can take if I'm not spoonfed the info.

Back in March, Keffals announced they were going to take down Kiwi Farms. This was vague until more recently when they announced the plan was to get it DDoS'd permanently until Null gave up. Keffals collected nearly $100,000 in a GoFundMe in hopes of achieving this goal.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Isn’t that the site that basically hate-tracks this forum?

Professor Beef

one of them, yes

Hi Beef!
Kyuuji

Always weird when you forget about one of the other places for like a year and realise they've still been sat there whining about you from afar the entire time.

Yeah, it's kinda bizarre when every once in a while I stumble across a thread on the old place and I see them whining about Era. They're absolutely obsessed, meanwhile I don't think anyone here ever really thinks of them? Rent free is all I can say.

Just like JKR

Back in the day, all the old site offshoots used to have hate threads stickied which was the only place you could piss and moan about how much you hated NG. I thought it was extremely pathetic that an offshoot would obsess over their previous forum.

Now that forum has a ResetEra thread for pissing and moaning about us.

Former janitor Volimar

It's why I've always been super happy about the cross forum drama rule here.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-family-needs-a-second-car-i-could-use-some-advice.628000/
He has a family?

[Propagandhim]

I'm out of the loop.  Why do the kiwis hate this keffals person so much?  I've made two attempts to find out, but got nowhere.  Just "they hate me because I'm trans".   And there's only so much of this stuff I can take if I'm not spoonfed the info.

Back in March, Keffals announced they were going to take down Kiwi Farms. This was vague until more recently when they announced the plan was to get it DDoS'd permanently until Null gave up. Keffals collected nearly $100,000 in a GoFundMe in hopes of achieving this goal.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/clara-sorrenti-keffals-moving-legal-fund

And she's guising it as a way to pay for legal costs?  Or is that 100k going to pay for lawyers to pressure Cloudflare?  Weird story.   I just don't understand what she did to draw the ire of KF.  She wants to shut them down because she believes (or wants others to believe) they were the source of her being doxx'ed and swatted.  Okay, fine.  But what occurred before then for that to happen?    It can't just be because she's trans - there's a lot of public trans people.  Did she rape a puppy or something? 

Isn’t that the site that basically hate-tracks this forum?

Professor Beef

one of them, yes

 

I resent being referred to as 'hate-tracking' resetera.  They are so brazenly and publicly stupid that I'm allowed to talk about it.  That's not hate, that's love - I sincerely love Nepenthe for the laughs and joy she has brought me on this forum.  The Nissan Versa being paid for like a college grad who just bought a Porsche Panamera Turbo after getting an entry-level job, the bullet proof vests, the dismantling of colonialism, the being handed change wrong by a white hand, it all comes together better than a television show.  Some people need to talk about Game of Thrones with their homies, I need to talk about why rappers can and ought to kill white babies while dismantling capitalism on the bire.  Simple as, as the British say. 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/terf-jk-rowling-continues-to-be-a-hateful-bigot.221245/page-57#post-92547640

Edit: yep real found it in the sample

Page 20 on the libby sample

Incelsiorlef is reading that TERF BITCH JOANNE new book 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/terf-jk-rowling-continues-to-be-a-hateful-bigot.221245/page-57#post-92556646
https://twitter.com/SmoothDunk/status/1565702563147747329

[benjipwns]

I just don't understand what she did to draw the ire of KF.  She wants to shut them down because she believes (or wants others to believe) they were the source of her being doxx'ed and swatted.  Okay, fine.  But what occurred before then for that to happen?    It can't just be because she's trans - there's a lot of public trans people.  Did she rape a puppy or something? 

You have the timeline off. Keffals declared they were going to take down Kiwi Farms. So Kiwi Farms took notice and did what they do. After getting swatted, Keffals reframed this as this grand principled movement to stop Kiwi Farms murderous rampage taking lives left and right since law enforcement refuses to do anything because none of it is illegal.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-family-needs-a-second-car-i-could-use-some-advice.628000/
He has a family?

Family of four that needs a third row?

lol

[Propagandhim]

I just don't understand what she did to draw the ire of KF.  She wants to shut them down because she believes (or wants others to believe) they were the source of her being doxx'ed and swatted.  Okay, fine.  But what occurred before then for that to happen?    It can't just be because she's trans - there's a lot of public trans people.  Did she rape a puppy or something? 

You have the timeline off. Keffals declared they were going to take down Kiwi Farms. So Kiwi Farms took notice and did what they do. After getting swatted, Keffals reframed this as this grand principled movement to stop Kiwi Farms murderous rampage taking lives left and right since law enforcement refuses to do anything because none of it is illegal.

Ah, gotcha.  That makes a lot more sense then.

[bork]

I just don't understand what she did to draw the ire of KF.  She wants to shut them down because she believes (or wants others to believe) they were the source of her being doxx'ed and swatted.  Okay, fine.  But what occurred before then for that to happen?    It can't just be because she's trans - there's a lot of public trans people.  Did she rape a puppy or something? 

You have the timeline off. Keffals declared they were going to take down Kiwi Farms. So Kiwi Farms took notice and did what they do. After getting swatted, Keffals reframed this as this grand principled movement to stop Kiwi Farms murderous rampage taking lives left and right since law enforcement refuses to do anything because none of it is illegal.

Where did Keffals say this?

[Nintex]

Literally another 9/11 moment, who are you rooting for?

[Klelk]

Ultimately it is a letthemfight.jpg situation but kiwifarms suffering would be funnier and for that reason, I'm out

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

[Maiden Voyage]

Where I can read up on this without losing brain cells? I know what kiwi farms is but know absolutely nothing beyond that.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights

Article 2
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 8
Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

Article 12
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

Article 18
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

Article 19
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

Article 20
Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
No one may be compelled to belong to an association.

Article 29
Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.
In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.
These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

Article 30
Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.

Ratiocracy by the twitteriat is some fucking dystopian shit, and whatever you think of the people involved, removing protections so whoever buys the biggest botfarm 'wins' is repugnant.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflares-abuse-policies-and-approach/
Cloudflares statement; of relevance:

Giving everyone the ability to sign up for our services online also reflects our view that cyberattacks not only should not be used for silencing vulnerable groups, but are not the appropriate mechanism for addressing problematic content online. We believe cyberattacks, in any form, should be relegated to the dustbin of history.

[Uncle]

there is no "deserving" being attacked, or swatted, or getting your website taken down one way or the other, but there are things people do that can make it really hard to support them

one of those things might be skirting right up and past the line of an appropriate level of gossip

another of those things might be flirting with underage people, garnering their favor with homebrewed hormones, and inviting them into a nice private discord server where people can't see where the conversation goes from there

[Pissy F Benny]

what the frig are homebrewed hormones? gonna need more deets on this?

no one is gonna shed a tear if the farms is finally take down besides josh moon (and those might be tears of relief when he reflects on things) but this keffals character seems like a complete lunatic so

i can see why people are concerned at cloudflare finally wilting but i don't really give a shit personally.

so let them fight i suppose?

[benjipwns]

Sorry, I can't support suppressing legal speech with violence so there's only one option here.

Also, BAN BORK AND DON'T KILL HIM for locking threads half the time he posts.

[Uncle]

what the frig are homebrewed hormones? gonna need more deets on this?

making them in a bathtub and distributing them illegally to minors

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(this is keffals' significant other)

[close]

[bork]

Sorry, I can't support suppressing legal speech with violence so there's only one option here.

Also, BAN BORK AND DON'T KILL HIM for locking threads half the time he posts.

It's this phone browser.  Dunno why it locks threads sometimes.

[BIONIC]

another of those things might be flirting with underage people, garnering their favor with homebrewed hormones, and inviting them into a nice private discord server where people can't see where the conversation goes from there

Shonda has gone too far now

[Uncle]

Sorry, I can't support suppressing legal speech with violence so there's only one option here.

Also, BAN BORK AND DON'T KILL HIM for locking threads half the time he posts.

It's this phone browser.  Dunno why it locks threads sometimes.

thought it was just a mistake since you ended it with a question

 

[Nintex]

Sorry, I can't support suppressing legal speech with violence so there's only one option here.

Also, BAN BORK AND DON'T KILL HIM for locking threads half the time he posts.

It's this phone browser.  Dunno why it locks threads sometimes.

Don't worry Nintex will make new big beautiful threads again when that happens

[bork]

It's getting merged in 3...

[bork]

Benji- where did Keffals say she was taking down KF back in March?  Can't find anything when searching for it.

[Uncle]

I just don't understand what she did to draw the ire of KF.  She wants to shut them down because she believes (or wants others to believe) they were the source of her being doxx'ed and swatted.  Okay, fine.  But what occurred before then for that to happen?    It can't just be because she's trans - there's a lot of public trans people.  Did she rape a puppy or something? 

You have the timeline off. Keffals declared they were going to take down Kiwi Farms. So Kiwi Farms took notice and did what they do. After getting swatted, Keffals reframed this as this grand principled movement to stop Kiwi Farms murderous rampage taking lives left and right since law enforcement refuses to do anything because none of it is illegal.

Ah, gotcha.  That makes a lot more sense then.

from what I understand the full story is more like, keffals was already a popular streamer and one day stumbled across kiwifarms stuff, decided they were against it as most reasonable people do when they hear about it

but being popular online, this drew more eyes and comments and upvotes than usual, so naturally the kf people start looking into this person too, and discover all this stuff about underage flirting, hormone distribution, twitter followers who are actual MAPs, etc

then keffals panics that the empire is crumbling and tries to drown all this out with the campaign (I don't think she's denied most of what was dug up, though as usual it's all "out of context")

you could say everybody has skeletons in their closet but I don't think this is the type of skeleton you're supposed to handwave away 👀

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn%E2%80%99s-fox-news-lite-transition-sure-was-quick-oped-complaining-about-pocs-existing-in-fantasy-fiction.628054/post-92649682

So… what are some good news sources I can use to eliminate CNN from my rotation

MSNBC, Vox, Vice, occasional NPR but they platform racists too.

 

When NPR is too right wing for you media needs.


Also, thread locked because the OP pulled an Excel and didn't read the article beyond the twitter link.