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Yulwei

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30900 on: October 01, 2022, 02:37:27 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/overwatch-2-junker-queen-legendary-skin-20-31-off.638205/page-13#post-94167186

Quote from: Nepenthe, post: 94167186, member: 1995
I'm amused by complaints that "a whole generation has grown up with microtransactions as the norm!!!" when they wouldn't have had to if our generation was actually capable of taking a stand for literally any-fucking-thing. Y'all were fine with Horse Armor, outrageous pre-order bundles, paid online, and paid DLC, oblivious to the fact that these were just breadcrumbs to the trap and poo-pooing anyone (like me back in the day) who said this would lead to stupid shit because capitalists are vultures and will take all they can get if you let them. But #Gamers will literally buy anything no matter how predatory the deal is and no matter how much actual human suffering went into the production of that thing. That's what happens when your hobby is inherently predicated on mindless consumerism.

Frankly I was prepared to actually pay more for skins at this point because I know Blizzard would get away with it. And I was really only saving my dollars for Lucio stuff, and frankly I'm gonna be breaking Battle Passes down like that (which is stupid; I shouldn't be having to sit down with pen and paper to figure out the cheapest way to get the shit I want but here we fucking are). In this awful world where every individual piece of content has a dollar attached to it, really my only big problem is still the fact that Heroes are tied to the Pass. It fundamentally goes against some basic gameplay principles and thus crosses the line. Hope they renege on that but I doubt it.

Poor nepnep forced at gunpoint to pay out the ass for shitty skins of her video game crush because of capital G Gamers

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This is the kind of utterly shameless manchild behavior that you see from people who live in a bubble/safe space and are never in any danger of encountering pushback from others.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30901 on: October 01, 2022, 02:39:46 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/overwatch-2-junker-queen-legendary-skin-20-31-off.638205/page-13#post-94167186

Quote from: Nepenthe, post: 94167186, member: 1995
I'm amused by complaints that "a whole generation has grown up with microtransactions as the norm!!!" when they wouldn't have had to if our generation was actually capable of taking a stand for literally any-fucking-thing. Y'all were fine with Horse Armor, outrageous pre-order bundles, paid online, and paid DLC, oblivious to the fact that these were just breadcrumbs to the trap and poo-pooing anyone (like me back in the day) who said this would lead to stupid shit because capitalists are vultures and will take all they can get if you let them. But #Gamers will literally buy anything no matter how predatory the deal is and no matter how much actual human suffering went into the production of that thing. That's what happens when your hobby is inherently predicated on mindless consumerism.

Frankly I was prepared to actually pay more for skins at this point because I know Blizzard would get away with it. And I was really only saving my dollars for Lucio stuff, and frankly I'm gonna be breaking Battle Passes down like that (which is stupid; I shouldn't be having to sit down with pen and paper to figure out the cheapest way to get the shit I want but here we fucking are). In this awful world where every individual piece of content has a dollar attached to it, really my only big problem is still the fact that Heroes are tied to the Pass. It fundamentally goes against some basic gameplay principles and thus crosses the line. Hope they renege on that but I doubt it.

Poor nepnep forced at gunpoint to pay out the ass for shitty skins of her video game crush because of capital G Gamers

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The fucking audacity to blame others while she herself announces how she'll buy skins and battle passes. (But only the Lucios ones, that's why she's allowed to)

Also how often has Nepenthe said shit like "If only gamers were as mad about racism as they are about microtransaction". What the fuck does she even want?

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But #Gamers will literally buy anything no matter how predatory the deal is and no matter how much actual human suffering went into the production of that thing.
She says this while sporting a gaming character as a profile pic  :curious :society

Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30902 on: October 01, 2022, 02:43:15 PM »
Nepenthe defending Cerium making millions landlording a forum he never even looked at and not even offering a gift basket or a few bucks as slight compensation for all her hard labor on Resetera, while she complains about the Nintendo corporation charging $20 a year for the upkeep of their servers for optional recreational consumer products.   Truly a capitalist hellscape.  :brain

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30903 on: October 01, 2022, 02:48:38 PM »
Listen, he's still asleep.  He'll eventually come back to explain the buyout

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30904 on: October 01, 2022, 03:08:34 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/overwatch-2-junker-queen-legendary-skin-20-31-off.638205/page-13#post-94167186

Quote from: Nepenthe, post: 94167186, member: 1995
I'm amused by complaints that "a whole generation has grown up with microtransactions as the norm!!!" when they wouldn't have had to if our generation was actually capable of taking a stand for literally any-fucking-thing. Y'all were fine with Horse Armor, outrageous pre-order bundles, paid online, and paid DLC, oblivious to the fact that these were just breadcrumbs to the trap and poo-pooing anyone (like me back in the day) who said this would lead to stupid shit because capitalists are vultures and will take all they can get if you let them. But #Gamers will literally buy anything no matter how predatory the deal is and no matter how much actual human suffering went into the production of that thing. That's what happens when your hobby is inherently predicated on mindless consumerism.

Frankly I was prepared to actually pay more for skins at this point because I know Blizzard would get away with it. And I was really only saving my dollars for Lucio stuff, and frankly I'm gonna be breaking Battle Passes down like that (which is stupid; I shouldn't be having to sit down with pen and paper to figure out the cheapest way to get the shit I want but here we fucking are). In this awful world where every individual piece of content has a dollar attached to it, really my only big problem is still the fact that Heroes are tied to the Pass. It fundamentally goes against some basic gameplay principles and thus crosses the line. Hope they renege on that but I doubt it.

Poor nepnep forced at gunpoint to pay out the ass for shitty skins of her video game crush because of capital G Gamers

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Fuck me this is peak Neopetenthe.

"Why y'all making me pay for microtransactions? Fucking white people!"
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jorma

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30905 on: October 01, 2022, 03:23:59 PM »
I don't know guys, but I kinda get the feeling that nepnep might be a dumbass

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30906 on: October 01, 2022, 03:41:34 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/chaos-head-noah-wont-launch-on-steam-because-of-steams-guideline-required-changes-to-the-games-content.638373/page-4#post-94169427

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At a time when the US is speed running, banning any text deemed inappropriate by far right wackos which is usually anything queer, from public libraries and schools I'm really fucking unhappy about people coming in here and saying oh well this character thinks bad thoughts that means it's okay to ban it. A lot of stories are about shitty people. Do you watch American Psycho and take away the moral is you should go cut up hookers?

Let's see Paul Allen's content approval system.

:shaking  :what
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30907 on: October 01, 2022, 03:43:35 PM »
I don't know guys, but I kinda get the feeling that nepnep might be a dumbass
:ohhh
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30908 on: October 01, 2022, 03:55:28 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/chaos-head-noah-wont-launch-on-steam-because-of-steams-guideline-required-changes-to-the-games-content.638373/page-4#post-94155546
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Woah racist? What did they do to be racist?
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When there’s a noticeable trend of stricter standards being applied to one country and their style of art in particular, but then people in other countries can just release whatever degenerate garbage they want (as long as it’s not anime), it sure comes off as some kind of racially motivated bias.
Their proof
https://twitter.com/PhleBuster/status/1246082520652939264

ShutUp

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30909 on: October 01, 2022, 04:22:02 PM »
Capitalism. Capitalist. They keep using these words, I don’t think they know what they mean.

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30910 on: October 01, 2022, 04:59:21 PM »
Quote from: Nepenthe, post: 94167186, member: 1995
In this awful world where every individual piece of content has a dollar attached to it

surely someone has a burner account worth sacrificing for a "This you?" reply to this shit with accompanying screenshot of the kofi she setup for the 'work' of at-will silencing any disagreement on the forum?


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30912 on: October 01, 2022, 05:18:38 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/chaos-head-noah-wont-launch-on-steam-because-of-steams-guideline-required-changes-to-the-games-content.638373/page-4#post-94155546
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Woah racist? What did they do to be racist?
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When there’s a noticeable trend of stricter standards being applied to one country and their style of art in particular, but then people in other countries can just release whatever degenerate garbage they want (as long as it’s not anime), it sure comes off as some kind of racially motivated bias.
Their proof
https://twitter.com/PhleBuster/status/1246082520652939264

Eh, Steam has weird standards about what smut they allow in its store. I doubt is outright racism, but is clear VN companies are the ones that often not even get the dignity of a coherent response.

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30913 on: October 01, 2022, 05:25:32 PM »
Who gets this worked up over a mascot?

posted in the midst of 3 page discussion over a mascot.

A mascot that has no ideological underpinnings whatsoever, not everythings political, what even is the politics, but yes, everyone here loves it and thinks its amazing, btw the mascot is non-binary and prefers they/them, make sure the 5 year olds and under this is supposedly for understand that and dont fucking misgender them

A cartoon alien... Imagine this being your biggest problem in your life right now.

"a videogame about wizard school... Imagine this being your biggest problem in your life right now."

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30914 on: October 01, 2022, 05:58:43 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hurricane-ian-devastated-cuba-power-grid-collapsed-many-towns-ravaged-urgent-call-on-biden-to-lift-the-blockade-and-other-ways-to-support-cuba.638751/post-94169376

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Oh for fucks sake.

Look, this thread is supposedly about getting help to Cuba due to Hurricane Ian. And how that is being impeded by the embargo. But really, the OPs intent was to start a conversation about ending the embargo and used the Ian as a trojan horse.

Why do I say that? Because there have always been exceptions in the embargo for food, medicine, and disaster recovery.

From the U.S. State Department:
https://www.state.gov/fact-sheet-provision-of-humanitarian-assistance-to-cuba/

So the premise of this thread is flawed. It is a moot point. But he got what he wanted anyway. People crawling out of the woodwork to defend Cuba's authoritarian government for things they would condemn other governments for doing. But Cuba has a history of being a thorn on the U.S.' side. And people here eat that up.

Notice how in his response to me, the OP did not address all the things Cuba does to oppress its people that cannot be blamed on the embargo. It was glossed over. Just brushed away while he focused on my use of the word 'progaganda'.

There is another thread about Cuba passing a referendum legalizing gay marriage. Now, legalizing gay marriage is a good thing of course. But that thread got derailed with people arguing over whether the Cuban government was democratic and if doing one good thing absolves them of the abuses of the past 6 decades. The mods complained and wanted things to stay on topic. But you want to know how that thread got derailed? It was post #4.

Here:
www.resetera.com
Cubans decided to legalize same sex marriage in Family Code Reform referendum (67% yes vs 33% no)
https://twitter.com/AmericaElige/status/1574376170711228416?s=20&t=aQ-TwhVIF4Mdrj5_hdOEeQ
www.resetera.com www.resetera.com

Notice how it wasn't a post celebrating the legalization of gay marriage. It was about the "blockade". And look at who made the post and started that derail? Now we have a thread about how that "blockade" is also harming hurricane recovery efforts? Sounds to me like someone is obsessed with spreading a message about how the evil U.S. is to blame for all of Cuba's woes. And when challenged as to whether he ever lived on the island and can actually identify with the Cuban people, he responded in that gay marriage thread by saying that he had "been with the community leaders on the island" Umm hmm. He also stated that the Cuban people "want the communist party" and that "If cuba isn't a democracy then there are none in this world by any cracked definition you have in your head."

So yeah, you'll excuse me if I doubt the sincerity behind the OP and this thread. As someone born in Cuba, who lived his early years there, and who has family still on the island, it is insulting that this bullshit is allowed on this forum unchecked. If other issues dealing with oppression were hand waved away, it would usually result in warning or bans. Unfortunately, since Cuban-Americans have been stereotyped as being all Republican and thereby hindering the progress we all want to see, it seems we don't get the same consideration.

Thing is I don't fall into that stereotype. I can say the same thing about my wife, kids, my mom and my aunt. Cuban-Americans aren't a monolith. I have spent most of my life living in Miami. I have never voted Republican in my life. I despise Trump. I think the embargo is counter productive and should be lifted. I agree that rampant capitalism has caused a lot of harm. I know the U.S. has done and continues to do shitty things in the name of "freedom".

And yet I'll be damned if I ever just sit by quietly while people here try to paint Fidel Castro and his successors as some heroic figures or just some victims, and say the only thing wrong with the poor Cubans is that the U.S. just won't let them be.

Sorry for the long rant, but I just needed to let that all out. And I'll report this insincere thread to the mods to see if they wake up to what is going on with this guy.

 :popcorn

I noticed OP went silent after getting roasted. Probably crying to the mods and won't come back to the thread until this user is banned.

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30915 on: October 01, 2022, 06:20:16 PM »
I noticed OP went silent after getting roasted. Probably crying to the mods and won't come back to the thread until this user is banned.

And thats why in the good kind of democracy that cuba has, where theres only one party and party apparatchiks decide what happens, only relevant people get a voice, unlike bad democracy where any old rabble saying mean things about cuba might speak up

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30916 on: October 01, 2022, 06:20:57 PM »
People who don't think Cuba is a democracy should be shotgunned to death.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30917 on: October 01, 2022, 06:33:29 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hurricane-ian-devastated-cuba-power-grid-collapsed-many-towns-ravaged-urgent-call-on-biden-to-lift-the-blockade-and-other-ways-to-support-cuba.638751/post-94169376

 :popcorn

I noticed OP went silent after getting roasted. Probably crying to the mods and won't come back to the thread until this user is banned.

Deepwater in some real hotwater

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30918 on: October 01, 2022, 06:48:20 PM »
If the Chinese love "democracy" so much, why aren't they helping their fellow "democracy"?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30919 on: October 01, 2022, 07:33:50 PM »
Those fucking bigoted chuds at alt-right fascist Steam just put this game up and it's in the top sellers: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1457220/Robin_Morningwood_Adventure__A_gay_RPG/
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The developers describe the content like this:

This game is a bara-game. That means it depicts sexual acts between men on many occasions. These scenes are varied and some may also feature drug or alcohol use, as well as BDSM, voyeurism or uro-play.

Robin Morningwood Adventure is a gay (bara) RPG video game where you play an adventurer, discovering Whellcum, a gay village.

SUPER GAY BATTLES
Learn new hot skills, buy butt plugs and craft cockrings to become a better fighter!

HOT GAY MINI GAMES
Play mini games to help the villagers and increase your affinity with them!

UNDERWEAR SNIFFING
Collect underwear from the villagers to sniff them and relive their hottest NSFW memories!

COLLECTING CARD GAME
Collect cards by playing Strip lucky with the villagers (not available in the demo).
Literally shaking with :rage at this capitalist hellscape.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30920 on: October 01, 2022, 07:47:33 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hurricane-ian-devastated-cuba-power-grid-collapsed-many-towns-ravaged-urgent-call-on-biden-to-lift-the-blockade-and-other-ways-to-support-cuba.638751/page-2#post-94177023

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This is so petty. You even agree with OP that the embargo should be lifted.

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You didn't engage with him in that other thread. This guy is not arguing in good faith. When I brought up how the Cuban government cracked down brutally on the Patria y Vida protests last year, he mocked me for bringing up the "sham protests". It isn't petty at all.

Quote from: Codeblue, post: 94176906, member: 3448
Your evidence that this isn't petty is that you're still mad he mocked you in a thread from earlier in the week?

Quote from: Rogue74, post: 94177023, member: 32820
You are misinterpreting what I'm trying to say. I brought up that statement to show he isn't arguing honestly and doesn't care about the sizable portion of the Cuban people oppressed by their government. If he did, he would not call those protests a sham.

If this guy was whitewashing the oppression of say, the Palestinians by Israel, or hand waving J.K. Rowling's comments about trans people, he would be hit with a ban hammer so hard it would carry over to unrelated forums. Because there are members of this community to who those topics are personal. Not to mention that right is right.

But the Cuba topic isn't treated the same way.

I can't agree that it's being "petty". But hey if the mod team agrees with you, you have nothing to worry about.

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Hap Shaughnessy

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30921 on: October 01, 2022, 07:52:15 PM »
Quote from: Rogue74, post: 94177023, member: 32820
If this guy was... hand waving J.K. Rowling's comments about trans people

User Banned: Inflammatory comparison
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Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30922 on: October 01, 2022, 07:57:14 PM »
"Sham" protests against the dominance of the one-party state and military in total control.   :lol   Must be those pesky rich foreign interests (Jews) paying for insincere protests because lord knows no Western government gives a shit about politically destabilizing Cuba at this point.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30923 on: October 01, 2022, 08:01:37 PM »
Kyuuji was the one who reported the brudda
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It amazes me you genuinely think no one realises this when it's literally part and parcel of of how Rowling has been so successful in pushing people against trans people. Nigh on every thread has someone expressing this enlightened take like the fact that trans concerns are something a severe minority of people are concerned with is some shocker, as opposed to the obvious element that allows for the rise in transphobia we've seen the past few years. I am so severely tired of cis people feeling the need to come out and tell us how little people actually give a shit as though it's news.

Like how condescending do you need to be?
"Trans concerns" should only be something a "severe minority of people are concerned with" because as stipulated by those online they're all almost literally insane. Just because you want something doesn't entitle you to demand everyone else accede to your wishes at all times forever, especially when those wishes violate fundamental rights. Your authoritarian cult paints any resistance in any form to absurd demands as this "rise in transphobia" and forever excuses that it's that very cult's own behavior that is what is "so successful in pushing people against trans people" not anything THAT BITCH Joanne has ever said like "I just want trans women to be safe" and "trans rights are human rights" to which the reaction of your cult has been to accuse her of hatred, fascism and perpetuating genocide. You make similar accusations against Dave Chappelle for being mildly insensitive in a stand up comedy routine where he was generally supportive in the larger picture. This is how the cult is so evident when supporters with mild criticism of behaviors get accused of viciously wanting things even the greatest actual enemies of trans people don't publicly claim to want. Not that any of you will listen to me since me being in that same role is clear evidence that I too want genocide. Since that's going to be the accusation it makes me no longer interested in tacitly supporting trans people (though I still extend such grace to all individuals per non-violence and my other ethical and moral choices) and instead, after doing as I'm told and listening to what online trans peoples say, sways me to an interest in criticizing a vicious illiberal cult that uses lies and vacuous nonsense in the service of mildly annoying famous people and actually harming vulnerable people.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30924 on: October 01, 2022, 08:05:06 PM »
"Sham" protests against the dominance of the one-party state and military in total control.   :lol   Must be those pesky rich foreign interests (Jews) paying for insincere protests because lord knows no Western government gives a shit about politically destabilizing Cuba at this point.
FACT CHECK: Capitalists have a permanent interest in sabotaging successful and democratic communist societies (aka all of them once saboteurs and wreckers are eliminated) so as to pretend there's no alternative to the capitalist hellscape.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30925 on: October 01, 2022, 08:06:52 PM »
I heard you can play Mario Kart 8 for free online in Cuba with your gov't ID, a pee sample, and a promise of community service.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30926 on: October 01, 2022, 08:18:15 PM »
Nepenthe's rants are arguably even funnier because Overwatch 2 is free and like all these games you'll be able to "buy" everything through playtime. She's completely ignoring that she paid $60 or whatever for the first Overwatch which also didn't let you unlock everything immediately without paying for the boxes. The capitalist hellscape responded to all the complaints about the loot boxes by taking away the initial entry fee.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30927 on: October 01, 2022, 08:59:02 PM »
RustyNails Comes to the defense of mr shotgun to death, and gets called out:

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At least you’re consistently ignoring people with actual skin in the game from Cuba to Iran.

For some reason he deleted this post.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30928 on: October 01, 2022, 09:00:32 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hurricane-ian-devastated-cuba-power-grid-collapsed-many-towns-ravaged-urgent-call-on-biden-to-lift-the-blockade-and-other-ways-to-support-cuba.638751/page-2#post-94177023
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You are misinterpreting what I'm trying to say. I brought up that statement to show he isn't arguing honestly and doesn't care about the sizable portion of the Cuban people oppressed by their government. If he did, he would not call those protests a sham.

If this guy was whitewashing the oppression of say, the Palestinians by Israel, or hand waving J.K. Rowling's comments about trans people, he would be hit with a ban hammer so hard it would carry over to unrelated forums. Because there are members of this community to who those topics are personal. Not to mention that right is right.

But the Cuba topic isn't treated the same way.

I can't agree that it's being "petty". But hey if the mod team agrees with you, you have nothing to worry about.

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I dont know, you have been derailing an important thread and calling for it to be reported because....OP said something in some other thread. There is no reason for you to bring comparison of oppressed peoples by an Apartheid state to call mod behavior into question.

I also saw you take in US propaganda about how humanitarian aid is exempt from embargo completely, and wholly, without any critical eye, even linking to State Department website. Which, by the way, also has a bit about how its providing humanitarian relief to Afghanistan as well (another country under US sanctions), while people there are selling kidneys to survive. That money never reaches where it's most needed on time, if ever. America doesn't give a fuck about Cubans being tortured or brutalized by Cuban regime.

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At least you’re consistently ignoring people with actual skin in the game from Cuba to Iran.

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hurricane-ian-devastated-cuba-power-grid-collapsed-many-towns-ravaged-urgent-call-on-biden-to-lift-the-blockade-and-other-ways-to-support-cuba.638751/page-2#post-94180017
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Maybe America doesn't give a fuck. I do.

I'm not derailing the thread. A thread can't be derailed if its premise was bullshit to begin with. I already went into great detail as to why.

If your stance is to criticize the embargo for the Cubans plight more than the dictatorship itself, then you don't really give a fuck either.
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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30929 on: October 01, 2022, 09:08:34 PM »
Quote from: RustyNails
I dont know, you have been derailing an important thread and calling for it to be reported because....OP said something in some other thread. There is no reason for you to bring comparison of oppressed peoples by an Apartheid state to call mod behavior into question.

I also saw you take in US propaganda about how humanitarian aid is exempt from embargo completely, and wholly, without any critical eye, even linking to State Department website. Which, by the way, also has a bit about how its providing humanitarian relief to Afghanistan as well (another country under US sanctions), while people there are selling kidneys to survive. That money never reaches where it's most needed on time, if ever. America doesn't give a fuck about Cubans being tortured or brutalized by Cuban regime.
What would he like the United States to do about Cubans being tortured or brutalized by the Cuban regime? Implement sanctions? Invade and topple the government?

Also, supplying humanitarian aid to a place doesn't mean that places problems end. Does he not consider it aid unless utopia commences?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30930 on: October 01, 2022, 09:11:10 PM »
Nepenthe's rants are arguably even funnier because Overwatch 2 is free and like all these games you'll be able to "buy" everything through playtime.
If Neopetenthe and the rest of the tankies want to experience true communism, then they should be forced to work hundreds of hours for the opportunity to "earn" free skins in Overwatch 2, but the catch is they don't get the ones they want and just have to accept whatever shit they're given, and then don't even have the option to pay a premium for the skin they want because that would be creating a captialist hellscape and probably the fault of the yts.
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« Reply #30931 on: October 01, 2022, 09:15:16 PM »
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I dont know, you have been derailing an important thread and calling for it to be reported because....OP said something in some other thread. There is no reason for you to bring comparison of oppressed peoples by an Apartheid state to call mod behavior into question.

I also saw you take in US propaganda about how humanitarian aid is exempt from embargo completely, and wholly, without any critical eye, even linking to State Department website. Which, by the way, also has a bit about how its providing humanitarian relief to Afghanistan as well (another country under US sanctions), while people there are selling kidneys to survive. That money never reaches where it's most needed on time, if ever. America doesn't give a fuck about Cubans being tortured or brutalized by Cuban regime.
What would he like the United States to do about Cubans being tortured or brutalized by the Cuban regime? Implement sanctions? Invade and topple the government?

Also, supplying humanitarian aid to a place doesn't mean that places problems end. Does he not consider it aid unless utopia commences?
Why is the US government not just writing a blank cheque and giving it to Cuba or Afghanistan?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30932 on: October 01, 2022, 09:19:41 PM »
For the record, my position on the embargo is the same as Faora's in the greatest scene of Academy Award winner Zack Snyder's Man of Steel: "And if history has proven anything, it is that evolution always wins."

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Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30933 on: October 01, 2022, 09:22:31 PM »
Nepenthe's rants are arguably even funnier because Overwatch 2 is free and like all these games you'll be able to "buy" everything through playtime.
If Neopetenthe and the rest of the tankies want to experience true communism, then they should be forced to work hundreds of hours for the opportunity to "earn" free skins in Overwatch 2, but the catch is they don't get the ones they want and just have to accept whatever shit they're given, and then don't even have the option to pay a premium for the skin they want because that would be creating a captialist hellscape and probably the fault of the yts.

"Wheat Cropper Hanzo again.  I've gotten this skin 30 times..."

 :goty2

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30934 on: October 01, 2022, 09:24:35 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hurricane-ian-devastated-cuba-power-grid-collapsed-many-towns-ravaged-urgent-call-on-biden-to-lift-the-blockade-and-other-ways-to-support-cuba.638751/page-2#post-94180410

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I gotta be real, if I got spoken down to in the same way he did I'd be super pissed. Especially if it was some American dude trying to tell me what living in my own home country, a place I literally grew up in, was like. That kind of thing is super gross.

We should be listening to each other and not dismissing each other out of hand because what they say goes against our personal ideological viewpoints.

And keep in mind, literally everyone in this conversation thinks the embargo sucks and needs to go. Dude is just trying to explain to you all, while nobody actually listens, that the embargo is not Cuba's only problem. That the guys in-charge also suck. Is it really so hard to believe that people with power can suck and be assholes? It doesn't seem too far fetched.
Quite interesting to see staff advocate and defend behavior that technically should be against the rules. It sure does make me feel like I’ve ruffled a few feathers.

I’ve been a member of this site for a long time and now staff is defending personal vendettas? You know people can go back and look between our post histories right? You know its pretty observable that we disagree a lot politically so to see you defend someone absolutely fixated on being mad at me about a post from a week ago is interesting.

 :popcorn
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30935 on: October 01, 2022, 09:29:29 PM »
I smell a summit a brewin’  :sicko
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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30936 on: October 01, 2022, 09:32:41 PM »
Where did Deepwater get the idea that personal vendettas are against the rules?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30937 on: October 01, 2022, 09:33:53 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hurricane-ian-devastated-cuba-power-grid-collapsed-many-towns-ravaged-urgent-call-on-biden-to-lift-the-blockade-and-other-ways-to-support-cuba.638751/page-2#post-94180410

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I gotta be real, if I got spoken down to in the same way he did I'd be super pissed. Especially if it was some American dude trying to tell me what living in my own home country, a place I literally grew up in, was like. That kind of thing is super gross.

We should be listening to each other and not dismissing each other out of hand because what they say goes against our personal ideological viewpoints.

And keep in mind, literally everyone in this conversation thinks the embargo sucks and needs to go. Dude is just trying to explain to you all, while nobody actually listens, that the embargo is not Cuba's only problem. That the guys in-charge also suck. Is it really so hard to believe that people with power can suck and be assholes? It doesn't seem too far fetched.
Quite interesting to see staff advocate and defend behavior that technically should be against the rules. It sure does make me feel like I’ve ruffled a few feathers.

I’ve been a member of this site for a long time and now staff is defending personal vendettas? You know people can go back and look between our post histories right? You know its pretty observable that we disagree a lot politically so to see you defend someone absolutely fixated on being mad at me about a post from a week ago is interesting.

 :popcorn

 :sicko :cruise :judgement

Genuinely excited to see BDubs response to this.


Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30938 on: October 01, 2022, 09:36:23 PM »
Send Deepwater the pic of BDubs saying the N-word we destabilize this forum more than those sham protestors in Glorious Cuba.

 :sicko

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30939 on: October 01, 2022, 09:38:32 PM »
Another spicy ResetERA.com meme incoming:
I am devastated and I will never trust anyone ever again

I had literally invited 20 people who were either JBP or Destiny fans and we would watch the debate together. Everything was prepared. We had snacks, drinks, notepads and a prepared reaction Livestream including a panel of academics who were also invited (from various fields including history, sociology, linguistics and psychology plus one biology Phd). All in all we paid 2000 dollars for this event and that's not even including the personal costs (multiple people flew here and had to book hotels). This was supposed to be the greatest most epic crossover in history. I even drove my dad 90 miles to come here. Now I will never forgive destiny. This was by far the most unacceptable and cruel betrayal I have ever experienced. And I have been through a lot.
Oh, wait, they permabanned Destiny for a single post didn't they.

Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30940 on: October 01, 2022, 09:41:35 PM »
 Virgin $30 italian meal vs the Chad $2000 activist party

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30941 on: October 01, 2022, 09:42:19 PM »
Why is DumbWater complaining about the sites rules not being properly enforced? He should have been permabanned for advocating murder. He can only post because the rules are selectively enforced.

Also funny that he didn't post in the thread again until bchud posted. For sure he was waiting for his mod buddies to ban the actual Cuban.

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You really arguing that the reason I got upset at this thread is because of a personal vendetta? Have you not seen everything I have brought up? Are you even capable of debating in good faith

He is not.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30942 on: October 01, 2022, 09:47:24 PM »
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I didn't say you didn't. Just don't post State Dept website to defend US Imperialism because they say "pinky promise guys, medicines are exempt!".
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hurricane-ian-devastated-cuba-power-grid-collapsed-many-towns-ravaged-urgent-call-on-biden-to-lift-the-blockade-and-other-ways-to-support-cuba.638751/post-94180296

Rusty mad that the guy uses a primary source for his info  :lol

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30943 on: October 01, 2022, 09:50:57 PM »
Quote from: RustyNails
I didn't say you didn't. Just don't post State Dept website to defend US Imperialism because they say "pinky promise guys, medicines are exempt!".
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hurricane-ian-devastated-cuba-power-grid-collapsed-many-towns-ravaged-urgent-call-on-biden-to-lift-the-blockade-and-other-ways-to-support-cuba.638751/post-94180296

Rusty mad that the guy uses a primary source for his info  :lol
Weird, because his earlier complaint was that aid hasn't solved Cuba's problems nor removed the oppressive communist regime, now he's saying that all that was just being upset that the guy cited the State Department for something rather than using an independent source to the knowledge that the U.S. supplies aid to Cuba?

Also, that's not a citation to "defend U.S. Imperalism" it's a citation to the exceptions in the U.S. law establishing the embargo.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30944 on: October 01, 2022, 09:56:51 PM »
Bchud with a measured response.

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Literally all I said was we should be willing to listen to people with lived experience and not dismiss those experiences out of hand because they go against our own beliefs. And that I understood why he was pissed off at you when you did exactly that.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30945 on: October 01, 2022, 09:58:30 PM »
FUCK lived experiences that further the goals of the capitalist, colonialist and white supremacist hellscape. Those lived experiences can FFUUUUCCCKKKK OOOOFFOOOOOFFFFFF!

Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30946 on: October 01, 2022, 10:01:25 PM »
the man has a point. lived experience always trumps nonlived experience.

Dead experiences or experiences that have not been experienced by a living entity -- well that's just not going to hold up against a truly lived experience. 

Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30947 on: October 01, 2022, 10:03:37 PM »
I just had a lived experience of Deepwater discovering BDubs uses the N-word profusely.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30948 on: October 01, 2022, 10:12:31 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hurricane-ian-devastated-cuba-power-grid-collapsed-many-towns-ravaged-urgent-call-on-biden-to-lift-the-blockade-and-other-ways-to-support-cuba.638751/page-2#post-94181367

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Quite interesting to see staff advocate and defend behavior that technically should be against the rules. It sure does make me feel like I’ve ruffled a few feathers.

I’ve been a member of this site for a long time and now staff is defending personal vendettas? You know people can go back and look between our post histories right? You know its pretty observable that we disagree a lot politically so to see you defend someone absolutely fixated on being mad at me about a post from a week ago is interesting.
It’d be interesting to see you actually respond and address his long post to you. Doesn’t seem like you will though.
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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30949 on: October 01, 2022, 10:14:07 PM »
Cuban kulaks who deny the lived experience of Cubans living free from the capitalist hellscape with the only problems coming from the oppressive regime propped up and insufficient aid supplied by the imperalist State Department should be shotgunned to death. How do we know this so-called "Cuban" posters family didn't have ties to someone who had ties to the Batista regime?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30950 on: October 01, 2022, 10:14:56 PM »
Nepenthe's rants are arguably even funnier because Overwatch 2 is free and like all these games you'll be able to "buy" everything through playtime.
If Neopetenthe and the rest of the tankies want to experience true communism, then they should be forced to work hundreds of hours for the opportunity to "earn" free skins in Overwatch 2, but the catch is they don't get the ones they want and just have to accept whatever shit they're given, and then don't even have the option to pay a premium for the skin they want because that would be creating a captialist hellscape and probably the fault of the yts.

"Wheat Cropper Hanzo again.  I've gotten this skin 30 times..."

 :goty2
You'll eat your Wheat Cropper Hanzo skin and thank Comrade Cerium for the opportunity to serve the great American Socialist Republic of Resetera (when he wakes up from his year long nap!)
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30951 on: October 01, 2022, 10:18:22 PM »
Is it a coincidence that this so-called "Cuban" poster is posting from transphobic America where Dave Chappelle roams free to spring transphobia on any crowd? Why is a LGBT ally living there, a country where Valve operates I should note, instead of a country that just democratically approved same-sex marriage? You think a backwards nation like America will ever have a national referendum on same-sex marriage?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30952 on: October 01, 2022, 10:19:49 PM »
The capitalist hellscape, brought to you by the United States of Horse Armor.  You guys keep voting for this shit.   

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30953 on: October 01, 2022, 10:50:18 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/chaos-head-noah-wont-launch-on-steam-because-of-steams-guideline-required-changes-to-the-games-content.638373/page-4#post-94155546
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Woah racist? What did they do to be racist?
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When there’s a noticeable trend of stricter standards being applied to one country and their style of art in particular, but then people in other countries can just release whatever degenerate garbage they want (as long as it’s not anime), it sure comes off as some kind of racially motivated bias.
Their proof
https://twitter.com/PhleBuster/status/1246082520652939264

Eh, Steam has weird standards about what smut they allow in its store. I doubt is outright racism, but is clear VN companies are the ones that often not even get the dignity of a coherent response.
Was seriously thinking the same thing

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« Reply #30954 on: October 01, 2022, 10:59:11 PM »
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I can understand why someone who is from Cuba would be upset when people who are not from Cuba make threads or posts using events in Cuba as a platform to discuss politics in other countries. This is a thread ostensibly about how the hurricane has affected Cubans and how people can help them. And yet the entire first post, and almost every other post in the thread, is exclusively focused on advocacy for ending the embargo. The link at the top of the thread is labeled "Donate Aid to Cuba" but it links to a page mostly about ending the embargo; the page is run by "The People's Forum," who...

https://twitter.com/PeoplesForumNYC/status/1520189980844384260?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1520189980844384260%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=

...well, they seem to be an activist group that goes to Cuba and rubs shoulders with the government. They do have a donation page administered by GiveLively. But I have to wonder who this group is, and what makes them the best non-profit through which to donate to Cuban aid. Is their main qualification their pro-government activist field trips? Given Deepwater claimed to have gone to Cuba on exactly such an organizing trip in another thread, is he associated with them?

So while dismissing the concerns of actual Cubans about the actions of the Cuban government, the thread is advancing an organization located outside of Cuba which supports the government there.

Thread is really going places now.

benjipwns

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« Reply #30955 on: October 01, 2022, 11:16:55 PM »
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The People’s Forum is a new non-profit that will operate a gathering space in mid-town Manhattan for non-profits and grassroots groups who are working to effect meaningful social change. It will comprise many different spaces under one roof for co-working, conferences, media screenings and production, art production, a lending library, classes on a variety of subjects, coffee bar and cultural venue in the evenings. The People’s Forum is scheduled to open in Summer 2018.

Our Mission: The People’s Forum is a movement incubator for working class and marginalized communities to build unity across historic lines of division at home and abroad. We are an accessible educational and cultural space that nurtures the next generation of visionaries and organizers who believe that through collective action a new world is possible.
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We are a movement incubator for working class and marginalized communities to build unity across historic lines of division at home and abroad. We are an accessible educational and cultural space that nurtures the next generation of visionaries and organizers who believe that through collective action a new world is possible.
It's a fucking book store with a cafe attached.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30956 on: October 01, 2022, 11:19:39 PM »
I have seen worst socialist/leftist gathering places.  :larry

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30957 on: October 01, 2022, 11:25:52 PM »
I love that Deepwater put "donate aid to Cuba" for donating to an upper class Manhattanite book store that sells $8 Nutella waffles.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30958 on: October 01, 2022, 11:41:26 PM »
Dumbwaiter is really stepping in it on this one. Should've kept to the shotgun philosophy.

In the meantime...


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #30959 on: October 01, 2022, 11:49:14 PM »

https://www.resetera.com/threads/za-um-cultural-association-has-dissolved-group-that-later-made-disco-elysium-as-za-um-sequel-still-in-dev-but-key-figures-have-left.638784/page-3

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Sad we'll never get to see the original creators' vision of Jamrock, if we get anything under the IP at all. But they did give us a legitimate all-timer, as far as I'm concerned, and who knows, perhaps the core team reunites under a new banner for a fresh project - which could be just as exciting as a Disco sequel.

It is an eerily 'Disco' way for the things to play out, given how the inevitable failure of Leftist/Communist movements was a running bit(and lament) throughout the game.

That’s why it always weirds me out that people (and the creators(?)) consider this a pro communist work when communism seems to be portrayed as futile and having an almost religious beauty because how improbable it is. Not mention that the corpo moralist character is way more likable than the unionist communist one (and if that is the point, that you need to get your hands dirty and being an scumbag to make communist work, is not a ducking self fulfilling prophecy?).