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« Reply #32400 on: October 24, 2022, 11:10:57 AM »
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« Reply #32401 on: October 24, 2022, 11:44:41 AM »
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« Reply #32403 on: October 24, 2022, 02:38:54 PM »
Anti-semitism is always on the rise, or at least people keep saying it is!  So when is a good time to report on something like this?

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« Reply #32404 on: October 24, 2022, 02:54:23 PM »
Anti-semitism is always on the rise, or at least people keep saying it is!  So when is a good time to report on something like this?
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« Reply #32405 on: October 24, 2022, 03:20:10 PM »
Maybe if you don't like the racial slur being that you're a bunch of greedy swindlers maybe try not being greedy swindlers, I dunno, seems like thats a better way to manage 'the optics' than complaining about how racists turned out to be right in this case :idont

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« Reply #32406 on: October 24, 2022, 03:21:09 PM »
*anxiously awaits Excel thread about NYT article*

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« Reply #32407 on: October 24, 2022, 03:29:55 PM »
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Mason Alexander Park could be good. American which may rule them out, but they exude something other worldly that would suit the doctor

I'm gonna sound really basic when I say this but...

Abigail Thorne would be an amazing Doctor.

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« Reply #32409 on: October 24, 2022, 03:58:47 PM »
I think Vono got a week slap?  Hasn't been a week

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32410 on: October 24, 2022, 04:13:27 PM »
I think Vono got a week slap?  Hasn't been a week

It was 3 days

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=48241.msg3069008#msg3069008

Isn't it funny how lenient the mods are on people who actually insult each other and drag down the whole discussion culture and then dish out 1 month bans for people questioning that every Final fantasy game needs to feature a female protagonist?

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« Reply #32411 on: October 24, 2022, 04:19:42 PM »
I think Vono got a week slap?  Hasn't been a week

It was 3 days

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=48241.msg3069008#msg3069008

Isn't it funny how lenient the mods are on people who actually insult each other and drag down the whole discussion culture and then dish out 1 month bans for people questioning that every Final fantasy game needs to feature a female protagonist?

"why my forum so bad?" asks b-dumb
"you're a stupid fuck" = 3 day ban for hostility
"I'm not sure your hypothesis holds up to scrutiny" = 3 months for downplaying concerns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32412 on: October 24, 2022, 06:22:28 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hellena-taylor-confirms-report-by-bloombergs-jason-schreier-while-simultaneously-insinuating-a-conspiracy-against-her.646761/page-11#post-95399157
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Reading all those posts and seeing the smug responses from many prominent members on these forums justifying the harassment he's received and further justifying it because he.... didn't want people tweeting at him in English on his personal Japanese twitter account.

Absolutely disgusted with so many members on that thread.
This website is 4chan with a policy against slurs.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/hellena-taylor-confirms-report-by-bloombergs-jason-schreier-while-simultaneously-insinuating-a-conspiracy-against-her.646761/page-16#post-95417013
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32413 on: October 24, 2022, 06:26:59 PM »
I think Vono got a week slap?  Hasn't been a week

It was 3 days

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=48241.msg3069008#msg3069008

Isn't it funny how lenient the mods are on people who actually insult each other and drag down the whole discussion culture and then dish out 1 month bans for people questioning that every Final fantasy game needs to feature a female protagonist?

"why my forum so bad?" asks b-dumb
"you're a stupid fuck" = 3 day ban for hostility
"I'm not sure your hypothesis holds up to scrutiny" = 3 months for downplaying concerns
You forgot the history of history of bad faith destruction of discussion that Vonocourt perpetuates constantly.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hellena-taylor-confirms-report-by-bloombergs-jason-schreier-while-simultaneously-insinuating-a-conspiracy-against-her.646761/page-11#post-95399157

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Reading all those posts and seeing the smug responses from many prominent members on these forums justifying the harassment he's received and further justifying it because he.... didn't want people tweeting at him in English on his personal Japanese twitter account.

Absolutely disgusted with so many members on that thread.
This website is 4chan with a policy against slurs.
I agree with this ban, ResetERA.com is nowhere near as respectful and positive as 4chan.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32414 on: October 24, 2022, 06:39:52 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/liz-truss-resigns-as-uk-prime-minister-rishi-sunak-to-be-next-pm.645492/page-37#post-95296695

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It weird I found Liz Attractive or was it the anal stuff?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32415 on: October 24, 2022, 06:55:46 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/liz-truss-resigns-as-uk-prime-minister-rishi-sunak-to-be-next-pm.645492/page-37#post-95296695

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It weird I found Liz Attractive or was it the anal stuff?
They missed one
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It's probably the makeover she had after becoming PM.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32416 on: October 24, 2022, 07:02:07 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/liz-truss-resigns-as-uk-prime-minister-rishi-sunak-to-be-next-pm.645492/page-37#post-95296695

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It weird I found Liz Attractive or was it the anal stuff?
She's not dead, just out of a job.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32417 on: October 24, 2022, 07:06:03 PM »
You are legitimately not allowed to find women attractive over there  :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32418 on: October 24, 2022, 07:10:04 PM »
Is it really "boys club" rhetoric if the club is one guy.  on earth.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32419 on: October 24, 2022, 07:12:47 PM »
Kinda seems like kinkshaming to me to ban someone for expressing their personal sexual interests publicly.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32420 on: October 24, 2022, 07:13:39 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/whats-an-example-of-diversity-being-done-properly-in-a-game-or-show.646980/
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Just got into a discussion on Discord about "forced diversity" being a problem in media. I've always felt the complaint was weird to be as high as it is on some people's priority list, considering everything else that's wrong with games & media. But one person's example of diversity being done right was Assassin's Creed Valhalla. I never played it, so I can't confirm or deny.

But I'm curious for those who find "forced diversity" is an issue, what an example of diversity done right? Because I can't escape the feeling of it just being one of those "want us to be seen & not heard" situations Black people always have to deal with, where doing more than nothing is enough for people to complain about our presence in anything.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32421 on: October 24, 2022, 07:21:56 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/whats-an-example-of-diversity-being-done-properly-in-a-game-or-show.646980/
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Just got into a discussion on Discord about "forced diversity" being a problem in media. I've always felt the complaint was weird to be as high as it is on some people's priority list, considering everything else that's wrong with games & media. But one person's example of diversity being done right was Assassin's Creed Valhalla. I never played it, so I can't confirm or deny.

But I'm curious for those who find "forced diversity" is an issue, what an example of diversity done right? Because I can't escape the feeling of it just being one of those "want us to be seen & not heard" situations Black people always have to deal with, where doing more than nothing is enough for people to complain about our presence in anything.
The complaint is about the force, not the diversity, happy to help.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32422 on: October 24, 2022, 07:32:26 PM »
Diverse ancient North Gods = Good diversity

Diverse Wakanda = bad diversity, how dare you what the fuck

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32423 on: October 24, 2022, 08:02:33 PM »
Diversity is a spectrum like sex: 0 = white, no diversity, 1 = Black, maximum diversity. This is simple color science.

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« Reply #32425 on: October 24, 2022, 08:53:24 PM »


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32426 on: October 24, 2022, 09:33:37 PM »
https://twitter.com/thatjenmonroe/status/1584322376547807232


your second tweet there appears to be missing, it may have been a bit too toothsome for twitter
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« Reply #32427 on: October 24, 2022, 09:38:50 PM »
your second tweet there appears to be missing, it may have been a bit too toothsome for twitter
That whole account has no tweets at all anymore. The globalists got to em. :info

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« Reply #32428 on: October 24, 2022, 09:39:23 PM »
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Diverse ancient North Gods = Good diversity

Diverse Wakanda = bad diversity, how dare you what the fuck

Reminds me of this catch 22

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How will they show the lynching though? Can they? This seems like a catch 22 -> for the story to be told and be effective to get the whole message through they need to be impactful and real. At the same time showing an event like that seems really in poor taste so I doubt they are gonna do it. But without showing what really happen they kinda loose the whole point of why this story needs to be told anyway.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/till-official-trailer-mgm-studios-the-emmett-till-lynching.611796/post-90536796

Gee, I wonder why that would be?  Maybe because of freaks like Era exist.  "Wow, a trans character!  Amazing,"  "Actually no, it's genocide because they have a short haircut.  This is a war crime."

https://www.resetera.com/threads/till-official-trailer-mgm-studios-the-emmett-till-lynching.611796/post-94308729
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Yeah....I don't know about this. I'm sure they have the wherewithal to not actually show the details of the murder itself (God, I hope they do). It just seems like another instance of profiteering on the trauma of black folks. It's good that they've actually got black filmmakers here, but that trailer just throws me off.

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Not too sure about this to be honest. It certainly looks well made, but I wonder who its audience is.
You already know who

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Documentary would have been great

A movie? Fuck this
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The co-writer/producer, Keith Beauchamp, actually previously made a documentary about this case nearly 20 years ago.

The director did a really good capital punishment drama previously; between the two of them I’d be interested in what the film looks like.



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Hollywood "vibe" of this trailer is really off-putting. The sappy music - ugh. This is disgusting moment in history, not an inspirational moment.

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I feel like a lot of these films fetishise the misery people of colour have endured over the years to sell it to a white audience where they can gasp and feel just enough shame to comfortably swallow, while feeling relieved as if its a problem that we as a collective have overcome, where they drive home and think "wow, wasn't racism bad then".

I say this as a white person

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First of all, glad this is before NOPE, because when I want to indulge in positive Black entertainment as escapism, I definitely want to be bombarded with reminders of whites lynching my people. Second, good choice to center this on Mamie because there is no way the already-infinitesimal chances of my watching this would've been higher had they focused it primarily on Emmett and his experience that night. Third, who is this for, really?

When the movie bombs she will get to use it as more evidence of bigotry against Brazillian identifying trans people.

Same old shit from Era.  "This was made for white racists to enjoy and watch."  "I know black people created the movie but it was financed by Amazon.  Why doesn't Amazon end racism instead?"
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32429 on: October 24, 2022, 09:46:22 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/whats-an-example-of-diversity-being-done-properly-in-a-game-or-show.646980/
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Just got into a discussion on Discord about "forced diversity" being a problem in media. I've always felt the complaint was weird to be as high as it is on some people's priority list, considering everything else that's wrong with games & media. But one person's example of diversity being done right was Assassin's Creed Valhalla. I never played it, so I can't confirm or deny.

But I'm curious for those who find "forced diversity" is an issue, what an example of diversity done right? Because I can't escape the feeling of it just being one of those "want us to be seen & not heard" situations Black people always have to deal with, where doing more than nothing is enough for people to complain about our presence in anything.
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"Forced diversity" isn't a thing, it's just right wing conservative whining and being ignorant assholes

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"Forced diversity" just means "minorities exist" and you shouldn't give it credence.



talking about it honestly because era won't:

forced diversity is when a content creator, soulless corporation or focus group says "this cast is a bit too white even considering the asian we have, we should probably include a Black man, not because we actually value his contribution and perspective, but to appease the public who will crucify us if we don't"

or broader, "we've put out three movies with white heroes, we'd better make the next one Black and do a big marketing push about how this is the first such-and-such breaking down all the barriers"

one might think members of a minority group would oppose tokenism that doesn't truly value them, but you'd be surprised

the thing is though, even though there's a good likelihood this is happening in one form or another across all media, a shrewd creator will never literally admit this aloud to their audience, so there's essentially no case in which you can assume with certainty that forced diversity has occurred

it requires ascribing motives you can only suspect at best

so you can oppose the idea of it but only grumble impotently when people ask you to prove that it's happening

 :yeshrug
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32430 on: October 24, 2022, 09:46:26 PM »
If that Tweet had been posted on Ree,

Nep would've had a meltdown because coffee drinking white devils are the reason she's got a shit car.

Kyuuji would've had a meltdown because that TERF bitch also drinks coffee. Therefore all coffee drinkers support bigotry.

Bantasaurus Rex would've claimed the Tweet was a lie because he's done 32 years of coffee drinking classes, and women still avoid him at all costs.

VisaWife would've simpered on about coffee talk, while praying that nobody on Ree ever visits this place.

The rest of them would've bickered for 45 pages about her husband's gender.


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32431 on: October 24, 2022, 10:03:22 PM »
That's cool and all but what has my favorite fatty fat fat been up to?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32432 on: October 24, 2022, 10:06:25 PM »
That's cool and all but what has my favorite fatty fat fat been up to?
The only thing he gets "up" to are exponential increases in his BMI.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32433 on: October 24, 2022, 10:10:29 PM »
NASA was going to shoot Royalan at that asteroid but they were afraid his gravity would pull the Earth out of orbit so reasoned that it's best to leave him on the planet.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32434 on: October 24, 2022, 10:44:54 PM »
All sides of the diversity discourse need to pool resources and break down Saints Row vs Saints Row.

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« Reply #32435 on: October 24, 2022, 10:47:25 PM »
There was some sort of law/agreement/internal decision made in the 70's that if you had four main principles in a advertisement at least one had to be black.







That's the kind of forced diversity I can agree with.  I wonder how Era would turn it into a rant about Elderly Thomas's or some other dumb bitch complaint.
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« Reply #32436 on: October 24, 2022, 11:02:02 PM »
Those quotes, names, and identifiers are brilliant  :rofl :rofl :rofl

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« Reply #32437 on: October 25, 2022, 02:35:49 AM »

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« Reply #32438 on: October 25, 2022, 03:13:33 AM »
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"If I say TERF enough I can win this argument I jumped into on outrage alone."

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hellena-taylor-confirms-report-by-bloombergs-jason-schreier-while-simultaneously-insinuating-a-conspiracy-against-her.646761/post-95431728


Poor guy try to argue that's not how to get some one banned. Its a favorite tactic and i hope he learns to enjoy it again. 
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« Reply #32439 on: October 25, 2022, 03:30:59 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/rishi-sunak-to-be-next-prime-minister-of-the-united-kingdom.646788/page-7

This entire page of that thread: "Diversity's good. Unless it's diversity from my political opponents then it's tokenism and must be dismissed."

Can't wait to see Indian ERA members start "policing their own" and start using racial slurs towards Rishi Sunak.

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« Reply #32440 on: October 25, 2022, 03:55:10 AM »
Oh dear -

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Something I admittedly should be doing more with a small child at home, but I just went on https://www.familywatchdog.us/ - and then I zoomed out...

I legit went into a cold sweat. Stay safe everyone, protect yourself and loved ones.

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Are you a republican? Cause you sure sound like the republicans running in my area, CRIME CRIME the sex offenders are coming for you! Everyone lock your doors and put your kids in bubble wrap, they're gonna break in and rape your family.

Multiple people, including myself, have offered not just opinions, but statistics and studies showing how wrong you are.
I like to base my opinions on facts and data, not baseless fear mongering.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/if-you-want-to-give-yourself-an-immediate-anxiety-attack-search-your-area-for-registered-sex-offenders.647064/


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32441 on: October 25, 2022, 04:00:47 AM »
Wait until they figure out the sex offender is in their homes.

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« Reply #32442 on: October 25, 2022, 04:04:52 AM »
Oh dear -

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Something I admittedly should be doing more with a small child at home, but I just went on https://www.familywatchdog.us/ - and then I zoomed out...

I legit went into a cold sweat. Stay safe everyone, protect yourself and loved ones.

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Are you a republican? Cause you sure sound like the republicans running in my area, CRIME CRIME the sex offenders are coming for you! Everyone lock your doors and put your kids in bubble wrap, they're gonna break in and rape your family.

Multiple people, including myself, have offered not just opinions, but statistics and studies showing how wrong you are.
I like to base my opinions on facts and data, not baseless fear mongering.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/if-you-want-to-give-yourself-an-immediate-anxiety-attack-search-your-area-for-registered-sex-offenders.647064/
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I’m not sure stranger danger stuff like this is helpful especially when crimes like these are committed the vast majority of the time by friends and family.

Just promotes more paranoia. Now of course be vigilant and alert for your children/family, but I’d imagine there are better ways to do that than searching sometimes dubious sex offender lists. And I say that also as someone with a small child at home.
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Uhh no offense, but someone who is a registered sex offender is a real "stranger danger".
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You have a higher danger of someone in your immediate family doing something than a stranger. Its good to be aware but I feel like searching for this is the same as searching for symptoms on Web MD and it telling you that you might have cancer. It really does nothing but stoke paranoia.
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Except that children are overwhelmingly harmed by people they know and trust. Also people get put on those lists for minor things that have nothing to do with children or violence.
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Said fuck it and searched.

Didn’t realize they rank these niccas like My Hero villains.

One of the two hits lives in the complex I live in. I guess. Idk.

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Sorry OP but this ain't it, and frankly not a good look for you.

First, most people who are sexually assaulted are done so by someone they know. Secondly, in the case of kids, the vast majority is by family.
Thirdly people get put on the sex offender registry without even being convicted of any crime. Fourth, studies have shown that the registries actually increase recividism. Fifth, what good is the registry for people who actually have committed a crime? It doesn't *prevent* new people from committing a sex crime.

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« Reply #32443 on: October 25, 2022, 04:12:38 AM »
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Thirdly people get put on the sex offender registry without even being convicted of any crime.
That sounds pretty illegal, which states allow this?

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« Reply #32444 on: October 25, 2022, 04:14:24 AM »
Wait until they figure out the sex offender is in their homes.
They should probably search their own forum for sex offenders. They haven't left in droves like the Asians, women, XBox basement dwellers, Nintendies and the sales freaks.
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« Reply #32445 on: October 25, 2022, 04:15:58 AM »
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Thirdly people get put on the sex offender registry without even being convicted of any crime.
That sounds pretty illegal, which states allow this?
It's true. They saw it in a movie once.
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« Reply #32446 on: October 25, 2022, 04:45:12 AM »
Oh, I think I see what they're probably referring to. In some states the same process that can have your capacity removed can also place you on the registry. So someone who is judged to be dangerous to the public because they're a psychopath or Laura Loomer or whatever has not been convicted of a crime but some states can still place them on the registry. I'm not particularly a fan of that, or the registries in general obviously, but I do wonder if they're doing that so the various restrictions apply to the person like not being able to go within so many feet of a school and having to keep their information updated with the state and so on.

That said, if the registries do exist it seems like something that should be accessible by the public and not just police? You can't stop people from scraping public data and making maps out of it.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32447 on: October 25, 2022, 05:24:57 AM »
Maybe poster should be asked if Amir0x was one of those "thirdly" people?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32448 on: October 25, 2022, 06:18:22 AM »
Bit weird that the same posters who have spent years compiling dossiers on others suddenly have a problem with them


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« Reply #32450 on: October 25, 2022, 10:27:03 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/if-you-want-to-give-yourself-an-immediate-anxiety-attack-search-your-area-for-registered-sex-offenders.647064/#post-95437089
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One is listed at my address. From a guy who doesn't live here, and as far as I can tell, hasn't lived here for 20 years.

So it may not be as dire as you think if they're working on inaccurate or outdated information.
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« Reply #32451 on: October 25, 2022, 10:47:43 AM »
There was some sort of law/agreement/internal decision made in the 70's that if you had four main principles in a advertisement at least one had to be black.



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That's the kind of forced diversity I can agree with.  I wonder how Era would turn it into a rant about Elderly Thomas's or some other dumb bitch complaint.

That dude in the towel is totally stroking it.

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« Reply #32452 on: October 25, 2022, 10:48:41 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/research-suggests-the-pandemic-drastically-shifted-personalities-across-all-age-groups.647163/#post-95452740

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Yeah isolation didn't change my life in the slightest.

The reactions to Covid however proved to me that we as a society have absolutely zero redeeming qualities and we're all going to suffer horribly from climate change.
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« Reply #32453 on: October 25, 2022, 11:47:16 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/rishi-sunak-to-be-next-prime-minister-of-the-united-kingdom.646788/page-7

This entire page of that thread: "Diversity's good. Unless it's diversity from my political opponents then it's tokenism and must be dismissed."

Can't wait to see Indian ERA members start "policing their own" and start using racial slurs towards Rishi Sunak.

I mean, can we talk about this being tokenism when the dude fought the shit out to climb the UK political ladder and got to be Prime Minister even when half his party hates his guts? Yeah, sure, Sunak is dirty rich and probably a prick; but RE says that his whole party is racist and let Liz Truss tank the economy before choosing a more sane person. That is an accomplishment.

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« Reply #32454 on: October 25, 2022, 12:18:15 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/research-suggests-the-pandemic-drastically-shifted-personalities-across-all-age-groups.647163/#post-95452740

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Yeah isolation didn't change my life in the slightest.

The reactions to Covid however proved to me that we as a society have absolutely zero redeeming qualities and we're all going to suffer horribly from climate change.

Good to know his personality as a raging narcissistic nihilist managed to go unchanged by the COVID. Was worried he might become hopeful.

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« Reply #32455 on: October 25, 2022, 12:50:52 PM »

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« Reply #32456 on: October 25, 2022, 12:51:53 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/rishi-sunak-to-be-next-prime-minister-of-the-united-kingdom.646788/page-7

This entire page of that thread: "Diversity's good. Unless it's diversity from my political opponents then it's tokenism and must be dismissed."

Can't wait to see Indian ERA members start "policing their own" and start using racial slurs towards Rishi Sunak.

I mean, can we talk about this being tokenism when the dude fought the shit out to climb the UK political ladder and got to be Prime Minister even when half his party hates his guts? Yeah, sure, Sunak is dirty rich and probably a prick; but RE says that his whole party is racist and let Liz Truss tank the economy before choosing a more sane person. That is an accomplishment.

Thats true for every Tory PM since Thatcher (and probably her too) at least.

And Rishi Sunak getting to be PM doesn't really show they're not racist, he only got the job because he was voted in only because he was the only one who got over 100 MP's backing him. If it went to a vote of their insane membership theres a more than decent chance they'd have gone with a no mark like Penny Mourdant over him, like they did with Liz Truss 6 weeks ago.
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« Reply #32457 on: October 25, 2022, 01:19:45 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/whats-an-example-of-diversity-being-done-properly-in-a-game-or-show.646980/
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Just got into a discussion on Discord about "forced diversity" being a problem in media. I've always felt the complaint was weird to be as high as it is on some people's priority list, considering everything else that's wrong with games & media. But one person's example of diversity being done right was Assassin's Creed Valhalla. I never played it, so I can't confirm or deny.

But I'm curious for those who find "forced diversity" is an issue, what an example of diversity done right? Because I can't escape the feeling of it just being one of those "want us to be seen & not heard" situations Black people always have to deal with, where doing more than nothing is enough for people to complain about our presence in anything.
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talking about it honestly because era won't:

forced diversity is when a content creator, soulless corporation or focus group says "this cast is a bit too white even considering the asian we have, we should probably include a Black man, not because we actually value his contribution and perspective, but to appease the public who will crucify us if we don't"

or broader, "we've put out three movies with white heroes, we'd better make the next one Black and do a big marketing push about how this is the first such-and-such breaking down all the barriers"

one might think members of a minority group would oppose tokenism that doesn't truly value them, but you'd be surprised

the thing is though, even though there's a good likelihood this is happening in one form or another across all media, a shrewd creator will never literally admit this aloud to their audience, so there's essentially no case in which you can assume with certainty that forced diversity has occurred

it requires ascribing motives you can only suspect at best

so you can oppose the idea of it but only grumble impotently when people ask you to prove that it's happening

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My general feeling is that I prefer it when the diversity is actually grounded in the universe, and that this is also where you might be able to spy what the original intent was. For example if it's a modern/future setting there is no question that a diverse cast makes sense as it reflects a global world.
When it's a medieval type of setting it's starting to make less sense, namely, when the setting itself doesn't acknowledge that global travel is apparently readily available etc. People then often say "But white guys don't have to justify their existence" but I disagree with that. Take "Last Samurai" or Matt Damon's "The great wall", white savior accusations aside, in both they play western travelers who journeyed into a distant country, narratively justifying why a european looking white guy would be in an Asian setting.
I think this might also partly be why Rings of Power was more blasted over its diversity than House of the Dragon. In Rings of Power diversity is very random. Some of it makes sense (like I can believe that the elven land is large enough to feature various types of elves) and some it makes less sense, like the Harfoots who are nomadic tribe that seemingly never make contact with any outsiders. How does a tribe like that end up with the same racial makeup as a large city? In House of the Dragon it seems a lot more elegant, Kings Landing is the capital and directly placed at the sea, that people from different regions of the world would gather there makes sense, in addition the one prominent black family in the show lives in a more distant land removed from the other houses. So despite this family being race swapped for the show, it seems plausible that they could have a different racial makeup.
Then there's also the often repeated argument "So you can believe in Dragons but draw the line at black people??" which always seemed a bit weird to me because in every narrative that features Dragons you can almost be certain that there will be a narrative justification for why there are Dragons and an acknowledgment that Dragons will affect the entire makeup of this world, the history, culture etc. same goes for magic, elves and so on. So if it's a diverse world it should also acknowledge that there is a lot of global travel going on, how that affected culture etc. Of course that's hard to do when diversity wasn't a topic the author thought about until it came to casting a TV show

All that said, I have to admit there is always something a bit icky by arguing about diversity. It's like you're arguing against housing for the orphans. Maybe you have good reasons to think the housing is a bad idea and the money would do more good elsewhere but you also still end up on the same side as the orphan hating scrooges.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #32458 on: October 25, 2022, 01:24:35 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/rishi-sunak-to-be-next-prime-minister-of-the-united-kingdom.646788/page-7

This entire page of that thread: "Diversity's good. Unless it's diversity from my political opponents then it's tokenism and must be dismissed."

Can't wait to see Indian ERA members start "policing their own" and start using racial slurs towards Rishi Sunak.

I mean, can we talk about this being tokenism when the dude fought the shit out to climb the UK political ladder and got to be Prime Minister even when half his party hates his guts? Yeah, sure, Sunak is dirty rich and probably a prick; but RE says that his whole party is racist and let Liz Truss tank the economy before choosing a more sane person. That is an accomplishment.

Thats true for every Tory PM since Thatcher (and probably her too) at least.

And Rishi Sunak getting to be PM doesn't really show they're not racist, he only got the job because he was voted in only because he was the only one who got over 100 MP's backing him. If it went to a vote of their insane membership theres a more than decent chance they'd have gone with a no mark like Penny Mourdant over him, like they did with Liz Truss 6 weeks ago.

I didn’t say they weren’t racist, just that it is not tokenism when there isn’t a desire of appeal to the idea of inclusion and the asshole actually fought for it. :yeshrug

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« Reply #32459 on: October 25, 2022, 01:33:44 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ps-plus-november-2022-nioh-2-lego-the-harry-potter-colelction-heavenly-bodies.647148/page-2#post-95456787

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t Sony and WB + Tt already have paid Joanne money for the game? Would downloading it matter?

I’m just asking because I want to download it to finish playing them since I sold my copy, but not if it makes Joanne money.

Now I don’t use the word hero lightly, but…  :salute
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