Other Forums Containment Thread

[Boredfrom]

I don't know if I'm ready to see the other side of it, funnily enough. Like "end of an era" doesn't begin to describe just how fundamentally Twitter had changed the way news was communicated and the way we communicate. I suspect a replacement will come soon but in the meantime the lull between is going to be extremely weird.

Fuck you Musk. All your talk about paving the future of mankind when you've done something that will set us back a decade and a half. You fuck.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/elon-musk-twitter-drama-ot-let’s-keep-it-here-parody-🔵-official-ꕤ.649272/page-242

[Boredfrom]

still think twitter is teetering between actually being in trouble, and probably fine with lots of people wishing with every fiber of their being that it dies and trying to make it come true by saying so

Nah, it truly sounds like the company is shitting the bed. The company was already a shit show before Elon took over.

yes, but where are you hearing that the company is shitting the bed? is it angry/smug people tweeting?

do we honestly have even the slightest perspective on how much of the infrastructure can just keep chugging along without needing constant attention?

Just to be clear.  I do not think the company is closing or the website dies tomorrow or anything like that. But is clear that is currently a shit show, even if you believe that a lot of Twitter insiders or ex employees are assholes (I agree).

The roll eyes is because you have been overly optimistic with some of Musk decisions not backfiring and then it does.

[Uncle]

The roll eyes is because you have been overly optimistic with some of Musk decisions not backfiring and then it does.

bruh I've been laughing along at the whole situation the entire time and little seems to have backfired yet except for things I was skeptical about anyway

the site remains functional, and literally every website in the world still hangs on every word of twitter embeds, even the humble bore

when we getting mastodon embeds?

I think the verification is valuable when it comes to prominent people and organizations...give Washington Post a check so people aren't fooled by Wash1ngton P0st

If a lot of checks disappear that could actually contribute to misinformation online

the ideal situation would be identifying legit businesses, organizations, politicians and government officials and letting them keep their checks, while charging for everyone who's merely popular or conceited

was this wrong?

hey remember how "omg musk is getting twitter and making all these changes RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF ELECTIONS IMAGINE THE FUCKERY"

did literally anything happen

or did everyone make all the commentary they normally would, and tweets got shared at the normal rate dunking on all sorts of candidates

 

or this?

[benjipwns]

I’m not too sure about that. Twitter has allowed for a lot of progressive movements to take shape & marginalized groups to connect. That can’t really be replicated with more isolated platforms like Mastodon.

Can he name one? How about five? Will he come up with any examples at all that actually relied on Twitter and didn't crash and burn spectacularly?

[BIONIC]

#Kony2012

[benjipwns]

#Kony2012

Okay, so there's exactly once that it worked, the hunt for him ended in 2017: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/20/world/africa/uganda-joseph-kony-lra.html

[HaughtyFrank]

I’m not too sure about that. Twitter has allowed for a lot of progressive movements to take shape & marginalized groups to connect. That can’t really be replicated with more isolated platforms like Mastodon.

Can he name one? How about five? Will he come up with any examples at all that actually relied on Twitter and didn't crash and burn spectacularly?

It's Neoxon. What he's really upset about is the idea that he wouldn't be able to monitor the Twitter likes of an obscure voice actor anymore.

[Propagandhim]

We basked in our privilege.
We took everything for granted.
For the only thing subduing Joseph Kony was our small-arms Twitter battles.

But with Twitter gone...

...he rises again.

It's Kony2023

[BIONIC]

This time… it’s personal 

[FUME5]

why aren't you spamming links to the bore

[Snoopycat_]

Unless you were trans and had the terfs mass reporting you till you were perma banned forcing you back into in person sex work so you could afford rent but yeah it was great otherwise

I'm not sure why being banned from Twitter would force the trans to go suck dicks under bridges to pay rent.

[Mostima]

Wait, so sex work is now a bad thing on Ree? Make up your minds already.

[bork]

everyone remembers the force awakens as a great movie

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/%E2%80%9Cfuck-capitalism%E2%80%9D-ok-cool-i-agree-too-but-what-are-the-legitimate-alternatives-that-wouldn%E2%80%99t-ruin-the-world-more-than-it-already-is.655698/

Capitalism thread!!!

[joeboy101]

Oh Benji, do I have the thread to end all threads for you.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/“fuck-capitalism”-ok-cool-i-agree-too-but-what-are-the-legitimate-alternatives-that-wouldn’t-ruin-the-world-more-than-it-already-is.655698/

I’m in for some genuine opinions as to what would work in todays day and age and let’s discuss the positives and negatives of both. Yeah I agree capitalism has its hard negatives but it also has a lot of positives imo but hey I would be open for a change if it meant overall improvements to the status quo to capitalistic societies

So let’s hear em

 

Edit: goddammit

[joeboy101]

For real basically any system that empowers workers over the owning class lmao can we stop pretending this is hard

 

Also, love posters trying to call out the OP for the crime of saying Capitalism has some positives.

let’s hear about these so called positives then

Can you list the positives?

lololololololololololololololol

Let's make the list then

How about you first tell us about the positives of living in a capitalist society?

So many positives OP can't even begin to list them.

What a welcoming bonfire.

[Uncle]

everyone remembers the force awakens as a great movie

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what I mean is, it's insulted so much less often than TLJ and TROS 

[joeboy101]

Also, racial issue sighting in that thread…

Socialism or communism doesn't solve anything about climate if you expect to have the same amount of choice and luxuries to remain unchanged as they are now

Socialism or communism doesn't magically answer climate change, and its role in the past century is also proof of how it those regimes destroyed the climate and local ecosystems

Socialism or communism doesn't suddenly change the demand for energy

It's the attitude of people

Also I will never an advocate for either given all the atrocities of the past century, all former countries are still dealing with many of its effects and even my country Germany which is the most wealthiest to help recover half the country from it still has long lasting issues. That's before I get into the personal part of what it did to my family in East Germany. So fuck the ideology and also only people who come from countries with no history of it can so easily detach the destructive pursuit of it from its ideology

Capitalism depopulated and underdeveloped Africa via the slave trade and there is a strong history of socialism in Africa since the 20th century so you don’t get to gate keep anything. Just because you’re the child of the Soviet Union doesn’t mean you get to decide that

No word yet if he thinks shotgunning capitalism is the answer, but signs point to ‘yes’.

[Uncle]

For real basically any system that empowers workers over the owning class lmao can we stop pretending this is hard

 

Also, love posters trying to call out the OP for the crime of saying Capitalism has some positives.

let’s hear about these so called positives then

Can you list the positives?

lololololololololololololololol

Let's make the list then

How about you first tell us about the positives of living in a capitalist society?

So many positives OP can't even begin to list them.

What a welcoming bonfire.

let’s hear about these so called positives then

literally every layer from the ground up that led to you being able to post this? the chair you're sitting on, which was affordable because chair-building techniques improved because it was possible to make more money if you made them faster and cheaper? every component in the computing device you're using?

oh wait it all led up to enabling a resetera post, so

[joeboy101]

For real basically any system that empowers workers over the owning class lmao can we stop pretending this is hard

 

Also, love posters trying to call out the OP for the crime of saying Capitalism has some positives.

let’s hear about these so called positives then

Can you list the positives?

lololololololololololololololol

Let's make the list then

How about you first tell us about the positives of living in a capitalist society?

So many positives OP can't even begin to list them.

What a welcoming bonfire.

let’s hear about these so called positives then

literally every layer from the ground up that led to you being able to post this? the chair you're sitting on, which was affordable because chair-building techniques improved because it was possible to make more money if you made them faster and cheaper? every component in the computing device you're using?

oh wait it all led up to enabling a resetera post, so

And as usual, the same tired withered defense of socialism, “peoples corruption has just prevented it from being implemented properly”. As if it would only be used with rabbits and goats, and not with humans.

[joeboy101]

Oh god bless, this Friday is bestowing gifts upon me…

Yeah, my people have been permanently set back because we were considered capital and property under this system for several centuries, I have to participate in menial labor I don't like for the enrichment of some asshole who doesn't deserve my labor or else my chances of dying increase several fold, and I'm eating a credit card's worth of microplastics a week while living during a terrifying extinction event, but hey, I can buy a game console and be duped into believing I can become a billionaire too by "working hard enough."

Do you think there are no alternative forms of national living because it is scientifically impossible for humans to organize their lives any other way other than having most people slave away for a few, or do you think there are no other systems because capitalists want to make sure the entire world lives under a model that enriches them?

 

Pretty sure Captialism got her that fur suit as well.

[ShutUp]

For real basically any system that empowers workers over the owning class lmao can we stop pretending this is hard

 

Also, love posters trying to call out the OP for the crime of saying Capitalism has some positives.

let’s hear about these so called positives then

Can you list the positives?

lololololololololololololololol

Let's make the list then

How about you first tell us about the positives of living in a capitalist society?

So many positives OP can't even begin to list them.

What a welcoming bonfire.

let’s hear about these so called positives then

literally every layer from the ground up that led to you being able to post this? the chair you're sitting on, which was affordable because chair-building techniques improved because it was possible to make more money if you made them faster and cheaper? every component in the computing device you're using?

oh wait it all led up to enabling a resetera post, so

Someone should just waltz in, say “those 200+ million dollar Marvel movies everyone on here loves and defends so much” drop the mic and leave.

[ShutUp]

Oh god bless, this Friday is bestowing gifts upon me…

Yeah, my people have been permanently set back because we were considered capital and property under this system for several centuries, I have to participate in menial labor I don't like for the enrichment of some asshole who doesn't deserve my labor or else my chances of dying increase several fold, and I'm eating a credit card's worth of microplastics a week while living during a terrifying extinction event, but hey, I can buy a game console and be duped into believing I can become a billionaire too by "working hard enough."

 

Pretty sure Captialism got her that fur suit as well.

Does…does she think the average white devil she hates so much (while regularly posting on a board that is like 98% white dudes) doesn’t have to participate in the same menial labor too?

[Propagandhim]

I seriously wonder how Nepenthe rationalizes in her mind, how as a functioning, non-mentally stunted, non-disabled person like her can't attain marketable skills in 2022 because of a past history of chattel slavery.   At some point do you just throw your hands up in the air and say, "I have no free will.  The whites took it from me."  And if so, why even live?  Or why not move?  Do white people just control everything no matter where you go?  What's the point of even waking up in the morning?  Also, what does her brain do when it sees a black doctor, lawyer, programmer, banker, professor...?  It just short-circuits or reflexively belts out, "COON!" at the raw impossibility of it all?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/older-gamers.655668/#post-96756222

Oh God this is cringe.

Yes Im 40, yes I play a lot of videogames, no I dont label myself as a fucking marketing term that became popular ten years ago.

Oh God this is cringe.

So what do you label yourself as "entertainment connoisseur"

This is post is cringe

peak era response to a completely innocent topic lol

"Any other older dudes who still play games?"
"First of all how fucking dare you"

Please let me know for what videogames you’re an “art director” so I know to never touch them.

40+ and still going strong. Have more than 35 years worth of history with games. Why stop now?

You're 40 and act like this?

 

[joeboy101]

It's hard to know what to recommend to help you enhance your understanding without knowing your background OP, but Mark Fisher's Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative? deftly explores the contradictions underlying the framing of the question asked in your original post and I felt it was helpful during my political education. In terms of directly laying out alternatives, no one book has all the answers from every single angle or aspect that constitutes emancipation in the 21st century but in terms of generalities, Peter Frase put out a book called Four Futures: Life After Capitalism that I think someone asking this question might find interesting. There's also Nick Srnicek and Alex Williams' Inventing The Future: Postcapitalism and a World Without Work which gets into the more technical aspects of capitalism's tendencies, and more recently Aaron Bastani's Fully Automated Luxury Communism which has good accounts of how scientific and technological revolutions have the potential to enhance universal prosperity instead of private ownership, though in my opinion the book is a little naive with its use of the concept of populism in its advocacy of how we transform current global society. From another angle and much shorter is Laboria Cuboniks' The Xenofeminist Manifesto: A Politics for Alienation which explores emancipation and system change from the dimensions of gender and sexuality which complements the other recommendations I've listed above. Hope these recommendations were helpful to someone who (genuinely?) is interested in alternatives to capitalism.

No, they’re not in love with themself.

 

[Propagandhim]

Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative?

Nope, not really.  We done here?

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Capitalism + UBI seems worthy of exploring because income inequality does create social instability

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Retaining some essential choice nationalized industries to ameliorate costs works just fine in the capitalist framework

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[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/elon-musk-twitter-drama-ot-let%E2%80%99s-keep-it-here-parody-%F0%9F%94%B5-official-%EA%95%A4.649272/page-243#post-96741585

What happens to ERA? I swear, like half the OPs are just a Twitter embed with zero additional context. Are people actually going to have to construct their own threads now, using... words?!

Excelsiorlef will certainly have trouble coping.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i%E2%80%99m-a-fucking-idiot.655731/

I just realized I’m a fucking idiot and everything I do will be criticized by everyone so why even try? I fucking hate myself.

[Maiden Voyage]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i%E2%80%99m-a-fucking-idiot.655731/

I just realized I’m a fucking idiot and everything I do will be criticized by everyone so why even try? I fucking hate myself.

He's making a lot of great points. Maybe he should try something different.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i%E2%80%99m-a-fucking-idiot.655731/

I just realized I’m a fucking idiot and everything I do will be criticized by everyone so why even try? I fucking hate myself.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i%E2%80%99m-a-fucking-idiot.655731/#post-96764679

User banned (3 months): Extremely inappropriate personal attack

Don’t worry OP, we all were already well aware

 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/quentin-tarantino-says-the-current-hollywood-era-is-tied-for-the-worst-in-history.655557/page-5#post-96757764

I disagree other than a few bright spots, 80s film suck. All films before the 90s are trash.

 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Oh Benji, do I have the thread to end all threads for you.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/“fuck-capitalism”-ok-cool-i-agree-too-but-what-are-the-legitimate-alternatives-that-wouldn’t-ruin-the-world-more-than-it-already-is.655698/

I’m in for some genuine opinions as to what would work in todays day and age and let’s discuss the positives and negatives of both. Yeah I agree capitalism has its hard negatives but it also has a lot of positives imo but hey I would be open for a change if it meant overall improvements to the status quo to capitalistic societies

So let’s hear em

 

Edit: goddammit

[Propagandhim]

Nihilism is not a useful ideology. We really shouldn't be taking the time to debate nihilists. Their cynicism is designed to disarm you from thinking human society can ever be improved

Hey brehs, we've designated ourselves the architects of human society - first task: figure out a way to improve the human condition even though we can't allow people to have even the slightest of diverging opinions in our conversation space for one second without eliminating them.    Should be easy.  Those pesky humans will all be on the same page as us in no time.

[Propagandhim]

Can you show me the scientific evidence that says that capitalism is a genetic predisposition of the human species?

Can you show me a single meta study that concludes that producing and consuming more and more resources from the planet is an innate trait of most specimens of the human species? If not, why do you believe that's true?

What 'study' are you looking for in the hard science of...anthropology? ...experimental economics? psychology? How would you even discern the validity of the study?  Going on the author's Twitter follows page?  "Meta-study"  You stock Pepsi for a living.  Go fuck yourself.     

[Cauliflower Of Love]

To be fair, as a volunteer janitor to a for profit corporation, nep wouldn't really understand the merits of capitalism.

[Propagandhim]

Nepenthe, sitting in her office by candlelight, calculating an appropriate z-score established from weighing all the evidence of mankind into a metaanalysis that answers the question, "Which economic system is best."  Then discovering one of the study participants said the N-word on Mastodon.  *Peeking out from her microscope* "The science...it's...it's all wrong!"

[NekoFever]

I seriously wonder how Nepenthe rationalizes in her mind, how as a functioning, non-mentally stunted, non-disabled person like her can't attain marketable skills in 2022 because of a past history of chattel slavery.   At some point do you just throw your hands up in the air and say, "I have no free will.  The whites took it from me."  And if so, why even live?  Or why not move?  Do white people just control everything no matter where you go?  What's the point of even waking up in the morning?  Also, what does her brain do when it sees a black doctor, lawyer, programmer, banker, professor...?  It just short-circuits or reflexively belts out, "COON!" at the raw impossibility of it all?

[Propagandhim]

She's not too stupid to succeed and do better for herself.   Some people are and she's not one of them.  Her extreme racism that pervades every thought and matter of consequence is exhausting and weighing her down mentally, combined with a victim mentality that probably demotivates her is her problem.   

[NekoFever]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/older-gamers.655668/#post-96756222

Oh God this is cringe.

Yes Im 40, yes I play a lot of videogames, no I dont label myself as a fucking marketing term that became popular ten years ago.

Their crusade against the word 'gamer' is so bizarre. Now they're just making shit up.

PC Gamer launched in 1993, for example, and it wasn't a new word then.

[Nintex]

Xavi was a chill dude but got more jaded and frustrated as time went by. To be fair I would too if I had worked for EA games.

[HardcoreRetro]

"We don't use terms like that for other hobbies!"

Bookworm, moviebuff, audiophile.

[Uncle]

"We don't use terms like that for other hobbies!"

Bookworm, moviebuff, audiophile.

or get even closer to the root word

reader, biker, mountain climber, skiier, snowmobiler

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-chie-hague-prosecutor-jack-smith-has-successfully-convicted-cia-agents-governors-and-congressmen-named-as-special-counsel-in-the-trump-case.655791/#post-96772305

Hopefully whatever takes twitter’s place comes soon so people get to ratio this fucking bullshit

[Lonewulfeus]

Name a whiter name. You can't

Enzom21

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-chief-hague-prosecutor-jack-smith-has-successfully-convicted-cia-agents-governors-and-congressmen-named-special-counsel-in-the-trump-case.655791/post-96773649

I hope this does not turn into "don't prosecute in the name of unity" by a guy with the whitest name ever.

[Kurt Russell]

Unless you were trans and had the terfs mass reporting you till you were perma banned forcing you back into in person sex work so you could afford rent but yeah it was great otherwise

I'm not sure why being banned from Twitter would force the trans to go suck dicks under bridges to pay rent.

Why straight to sucking cocks? Are trans not allowed to do DoorDash?

[Lonewulfeus]

Unless you were trans and had the terfs mass reporting you till you were perma banned forcing you back into in person sex work so you could afford rent but yeah it was great otherwise

I'm not sure why being banned from Twitter would force the trans to go suck dicks under bridges to pay rent.

Why straight to sucking cocks? Are trans not allowed to do DoorDash?

A cheeseburger delivering a cheeseburger

[Taco Bell Tower]

Oh Benji, do I have the thread to end all threads for you.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/“fuck-capitalism”-ok-cool-i-agree-too-but-what-are-the-legitimate-alternatives-that-wouldn’t-ruin-the-world-more-than-it-already-is.655698/

I’m in for some genuine opinions as to what would work in todays day and age and let’s discuss the positives and negatives of both. Yeah I agree capitalism has its hard negatives but it also has a lot of positives imo but hey I would be open for a change if it meant overall improvements to the status quo to capitalistic societies

So let’s hear em

 

Edit: goddammit

You killed Benji you monster

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i%E2%80%99m-a-fucking-idiot.655731/

I just realized I’m a fucking idiot and everything I do will be criticized by everyone so why even try? I fucking hate myself.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i%E2%80%99m-a-fucking-idiot.655731/#post-96764679

User banned (3 months): Extremely inappropriate personal attack

Don’t worry OP, we all were already well aware

 

I don't understand this ban, have the admins and mods not see that dude's threads he made?

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i%E2%80%99m-a-fucking-idiot.655731/

I just realized I’m a fucking idiot and everything I do will be criticized by everyone so why even try? I fucking hate myself.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i%E2%80%99m-a-fucking-idiot.655731/#post-96764679

User banned (3 months): Extremely inappropriate personal attack

Don’t worry OP, we all were already well aware

 

Agree with OP, get three month ban for personal attacks. Disagree with OP, get three month ban for gaslighting.

 

[Propagandhim]

Unless you were trans and had the terfs mass reporting you till you were perma banned forcing you back into in person sex work so you could afford rent but yeah it was great otherwise

I'm not sure why being banned from Twitter would force the trans to go suck dicks under bridges to pay rent.

Why straight to sucking cocks? Are trans not allowed to do DoorDash?

A cheeseburger delivering a cheeseburger

I just want to let you know that I want to give this post a "like", as i did a very sensible chuckle reading it, but I'm already too much of a mean asshole in this thread that I can't yet justify it.

[joeboy101]

Name a whiter name. You can't

Enzom21

We need greater diversity in Special Prosecutors!!!

EDIT: Dammit! My old foe, top of page, we meet again. How in the hell can I find something relevant?

Hehe

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[joeboy101]

People do want for more, but we also simultaneously know that human fulfillment and happiness generally caps out at something like between $75-100K USD, so we know there literally is a ceiling of fulfillment for most people. "Yeah, some people want more than that and want to be multimillionaires and billionaires."

Okay? Fuck 'em. Some people really like being serial killers, and they have a psychological inclination to killing, but that doesn't mean we allow them to do it, now does it? We can curb the excesses of the worst people without forcing ourselves into this unnecessary false dichotomy that doing so will endanger us all. This is one of the many lies that capitalists tell you. "Why, if you stop me from doing whatever I want, you'll only be hurting yourself. You're going to be rich someday if you just keep on working hard. Don't hamstring yourself."

 

[Propagandhim]

"We don't use terms like that for other hobbies!"

Bookworm, moviebuff, audiophile.

Exactly, audiophile, moviephile, etc.  Man who loves pedicures. 



I mean the list goes on

[Potato]

For real basically any system that empowers workers over the owning class lmao can we stop pretending this is hard

 

Also, love posters trying to call out the OP for the crime of saying Capitalism has some positives.

let’s hear about these so called positives then

Can you list the positives?

lololololololololololololololol

Let's make the list then

How about you first tell us about the positives of living in a capitalist society?

So many positives OP can't even begin to list them.

What a welcoming bonfire.

let’s hear about these so called positives then

literally every layer from the ground up that led to you being able to post this? the chair you're sitting on, which was affordable because chair-building techniques improved because it was possible to make more money if you made them faster and cheaper? every component in the computing device you're using?

oh wait it all led up to enabling a resetera post, so

And as usual, the same tired withered defense of socialism, “peoples corruption has just prevented it from being implemented properly”. As if it would only be used with rabbits and goats, and not with humans.

Even most of the stupid hippy communes from the 70s turned into corrupt evil sex cults, so how do these idiots think communism is ever going to work on a global scale?

[Propagandhim]

People do want for more, but we also simultaneously know that human fulfillment and happiness generally caps out at something like between $75-100K USD, so we know there literally is a ceiling of fulfillment for most people. "Yeah, some people want more than that and want to be multimillionaires and billionaires."

Okay? Fuck 'em. Some people really like being serial killers, and they have a psychological inclination to killing, but that doesn't mean we allow them to do it, now does it? We can curb the excesses of the worst people without forcing ourselves into this unnecessary false dichotomy that doing so will endanger us all. This is one of the many lies that capitalists tell you. "Why, if you stop me from doing whatever I want, you'll only be hurting yourself. You're going to be rich someday if you just keep on working hard. Don't hamstring yourself."

 

She's referring to the old Angus Deaton psych study that said wellbeing plateaud at 75k, but that study was refuted later on.

[Potato]

I seriously wonder how Nepenthe rationalizes in her mind, how as a functioning, non-mentally stunted, non-disabled person like her can't attain marketable skills in 2022 because of a past history of chattel slavery.   At some point do you just throw your hands up in the air and say, "I have no free will.  The whites took it from me."  And if so, why even live?  Or why not move?  Do white people just control everything no matter where you go?  What's the point of even waking up in the morning?  Also, what does her brain do when it sees a black doctor, lawyer, programmer, banker, professor...?  It just short-circuits or reflexively belts out, "COON!" at the raw impossibility of it all?

Yes

[Propagandhim]

They want to change the economic function of the state-apparatus but won't even DM Cerium about getting a parting fruit basket out of that $4.5m for a forum he never even looked at.  I'm not too worried about the revolution.

[Uncle]

People do want for more, but we also simultaneously know that human fulfillment and happiness generally caps out at something like between $75-100K USD, so we know there literally is a ceiling of fulfillment for most people. "Yeah, some people want more than that and want to be multimillionaires and billionaires."

Okay? Fuck 'em. Some people really like being serial killers, and they have a psychological inclination to killing, but that doesn't mean we allow them to do it, now does it? We can curb the excesses of the worst people without forcing ourselves into this unnecessary false dichotomy that doing so will endanger us all. This is one of the many lies that capitalists tell you. "Why, if you stop me from doing whatever I want, you'll only be hurting yourself. You're going to be rich someday if you just keep on working hard. Don't hamstring yourself."

 

She's referring to the old Angus Deaton psych study that said wellbeing plateaud at 75k, but that study was refuted later on.

I get that there is context (2010) but she didn't provide any, so I was like is this adjusted for inflation? where in the world does this apply? is your house already paid off, are you buying lots of luxuries or still generally saving?

now in 2022, 75k won't even get you a good quality nissan versa