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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34800 on: December 04, 2022, 02:18:16 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-jacob-from-the-castillo-protocol-the-most-generic-looking-protag-for-a-semi-major-game-in-the-last-five-years.660856/page-5#post-97541440

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White dude bad. Upvotes to the left.

Accusations :confused

Threads getting spicy, Nepnep joined in and someone just went toe to toe with her(he) them, not sure what pronouns they use.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34801 on: December 04, 2022, 02:20:53 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-jacob-from-the-castillo-protocol-the-most-generic-looking-protag-for-a-semi-major-game-in-the-last-five-years.660856/page-5#post-97541440

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White dude bad. Upvotes to the left.

Accusations :confused

Meanwhile, they consider Rey from the new Star Wars trilogy amazing over there.

Also, The Racist Has Spoken

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Let's cut to the chase here.

White men spent hundreds of years forcibly making themselves the face of the heroic everyman in fiction, whitewashing ostensibly non-white characters and narratives, and simultaneously upholding barriers for non-white people to tell their own stories in various mediums.

You all are everywhere in fiction, and while this level of indoctrination means it's "easy to relate" to white men, the other side of the coin means there's nothing creatively interesting about a white man as a protagonist in any story at this point. We've seen you all before whether we wanted to or not. And this suddenly doesn't become less true just because we're now scanning in real actors into video games.

The Callisto Protocol was interesting insofar as it was a spiritual sequel to Dead Space. But it would've perked my ears more had a Black person been in the driver's seat instead.

Yes, had the game starred a black person being the one tossed in a maximum security prison, you totally wouldn’t have had any problems with that.

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Exactly, and this is part of the "generic" argument for many (although, I do wish they'd actually articulate it the way you did to express their specific wants for a character which would actually give something of substance to consider and help prevent people dismissing it).

I'd like to see some prominent non-binary, trans, and characters with disabilities too. Especially in a world of future tech, there's a lot you can explore with prosthesis and how that affects the character.

Of course, more non-white characters are something we need more of, women especially.

There's so much more we can do than able bodied white guy, we've had so much of that already and it just makes the stories feel far less interesting.

This is a game that’s a spiritual successor to the Dead Space series where you fight off monsters. What about a character being trans or in a wheelchair or whatever would be interesting beyond “they’re trans and/or in a wheelchair!”? That’s all it would be, checking off a box. That’s all they ever want in these situations.

If it was a black getting murdered in brutal horrific ways in an abandoned prison you can 100% guess the narrative Era would spin about the game.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34802 on: December 04, 2022, 02:21:57 PM »
“Crackas can’t be interesting characters”

Holy shit  :lol always love when this extremist just drops the facade and goes on rants like that

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34803 on: December 04, 2022, 02:22:29 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/datingera-this-isnt-like-one-of-your-animes.666/page-509#post-97509589

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So hi, I'm the guy who got scammed out of 40 bucks on a hookup app. I'm trying to turn this experience into a net positive and putting myself back out there on more legitimate channels. Would anybody be willing to look over my Bumble profile and see what I can improve? I already know my pictures suck so I would like some ideas on what to do there.

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Some reasonable advice

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How does this sound?

I'm the guy your mom told you to worry about - the cyclist nerd. I'm looking for a player two but more than that
- someone who enjoys conversation, doing right by others and, of course, cycling. I'm down for drinks, walks/bikes or just hanging out and watching/playing something.

:wut :what :titus :kobeyuck :yuck
someone should tell my dude not to use the *exact same username* on reddit...  :nsfw
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-got-scammed-in-the-dumbest-way-possible-and-i-feel-pathetic.660139/page-2#post-97462843
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I've used Bumble for 3 years and haven't gotten a match once. The women who use dating apps where I live (Lexington, KY) are not the kind of women who would even be remotely interested in me. I know there are quote-unquote "nerdy" women here, but they aren't using dating sites or apps. I would imagine they already are dating people they met via personal friend groups or schools. The only people on dating sites/apps here are single moms and Christians who put "Jesus comes first" as the first thing in their profile. That's it.

It's why the only advice I could get in the dating thread was "move." And I can't. So I have to resign myself to being alone.
Imagine taking sex life advices from basement dwellers :dead
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Just a word of advice: coming off as super “nerdy” basically kills all interest, even from so-called “nerdy” women. My profile had absolutely no nerdy pics and the “nerdiest” thing about it was that I used a prompt that said I was into Pokémon as a kid. The amount of “gamer girl” messages I received from that prompt is kinda crazy.

It’s ok to mention that you like games, but don’t make it look like your primary hobby.

Also any large metro will have a pretty diverse dating pool, especially a big college town like Lexington, so I’m not sure why you are only seeing the Jesus and single moms
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Counterpoint, I've been told I come off as "super nerdy" in my dating profiles without even trying, and a lot of men I've talked to (I'm a straight cis guy) have told me the same thing you're saying.

But I've gotten WAY more positive results from my profiles as they are now than when I intentionally downplayed that aspect of myself. And actual women have told me that they appreciate how I come across (as opposed to how men THINK they would react to me).

Obviously you probably don't want to intentionally play up the nerdiness or anything to an absurd degree. I had a phase like that. But don't hide who you are.
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Women don’t mind if you’re nerdy, and it can be seen as attractive in the right context, but if your profile talks about anime and video games, it just comes off poorly

I used to use a prompt on hinge something along the lines of “the dorkiest thing about me is either that I’m engineer that works with code and drawings or that my first PC cost more than my first car”.

Changed it out and the amount of likes on my profile went up a ton.

Right now I’m not using the apps(currently seeing someone who I actually met on Bumble), but that was my experience at the time
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Be nerdy. Don't be nerdy. I just changed my profile to say "I'm passionate about my hobbies and sharing them with others just as much as I'm passionate about learning the hobbies of others." Scrubbed all mention of video games, anime and FFXIV from my profile.

But yeah, thanks for all the encouragement, guys. I'm gonna pick myself back up and give the ol' Bumble and Hinge another shot. I'm gonna be patient and try to be more direct if any matches do occur.

In the meantime, I treated myself to a 30 pull in Genshin Impact with the money I got back thus ensuring I really never will find anybody.
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I think people who don’t game sometimes have a hard time understanding the appeal of games, which is true for a lot of hobbies. I don’t think simply saying “video games” drives women away though — but it doesn’t convey enough meaning on its own. (And saying FFXIV means nothing to people without any experience with the FF series.)

As a woman who has had many nerdy/gamer crushes and partners but isn’t super into video games herself, I’ve really enjoyed learning about WHY someone was into gaming and what drew people to specific games. Which is a deeper conversation that tells me about what makes the person tick. AND it allows me to participate in the conversation and ask questions about the person, rather than be a passive listener to someone describing a game I’ve never played. (I’ve sat through a lot of the latter. It’s boring to be talked at.) When the person talks about why they got into gaming and why they are drawn to specific games, though, I get to learn about what kind of kid/teen they were, the memories they treasure, what motivates them, what they find interesting, and sometimes even how they view their place in the world and their values. I learned to appreciate video games through conversations that explain why a game is compelling (vs what happened in the game).

I still find it very sweet that my partner will tell me about games he thinks I’d like because it shows me he knows how I tick, too. But he’ll explain to me why he thinks it’s something I’d enjoy.
You see, what you reeeeeaaaaly need to do to get a girl interested in you is hide who you really are and put yourself across like you're someone completely different.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34804 on: December 04, 2022, 02:25:55 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-jacob-from-the-castillo-protocol-the-most-generic-looking-protag-for-a-semi-major-game-in-the-last-five-years.660856/page-5#post-97541440

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White dude bad. Upvotes to the left.

Accusations :confused

Meanwhile, they consider Rey from the new Star Wars trilogy amazing over there.

Also, The Racist Has Spoken

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Let's cut to the chase here.

White men spent hundreds of years forcibly making themselves the face of the heroic everyman in fiction, whitewashing ostensibly non-white characters and narratives, and simultaneously upholding barriers for non-white people to tell their own stories in various mediums.

You all are everywhere in fiction, and while this level of indoctrination means it's "easy to relate" to white men, the other side of the coin means there's nothing creatively interesting about a white man as a protagonist in any story at this point. We've seen you all before whether we wanted to or not. And this suddenly doesn't become less true just because we're now scanning in real actors into video games.

The Callisto Protocol was interesting insofar as it was a spiritual sequel to Dead Space. But it would've perked my ears more had a Black person been in the driver's seat instead.

Yes, had the game starred a black person being the one tossed in a maximum security prison, you totally wouldn’t have had any problems with that.

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Exactly, and this is part of the "generic" argument for many (although, I do wish they'd actually articulate it the way you did to express their specific wants for a character which would actually give something of substance to consider and help prevent people dismissing it).

I'd like to see some prominent non-binary, trans, and characters with disabilities too. Especially in a world of future tech, there's a lot you can explore with prosthesis and how that affects the character.

Of course, more non-white characters are something we need more of, women especially.

There's so much more we can do than able bodied white guy, we've had so much of that already and it just makes the stories feel far less interesting.

This is a game that’s a spiritual successor to the Dead Space series where you fight off monsters. What about a character being trans or in a wheelchair or whatever would be interesting beyond “they’re trans and/or in a wheelchair!”? That’s all it would be, checking off a box. That’s all they ever want in these situations.

If it was a black getting murdered in brutal horrific ways in an abandoned prison you can 100% guess the narrative Era would spin about the game.

They’ve got these unique death animations in the game too. Already had one where Jacob gets his eyes gouged out and another where he has his head torn off from around the jaw area.

The seething rage from Neppy if that was a black character  :lol “a studio founded by the white devil reveling in these close up shots of a black man being brutally murdered? They aren’t slick”

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34805 on: December 04, 2022, 02:27:16 PM »
I don't know what the gaming community's problem with Callisto is.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34806 on: December 04, 2022, 02:30:06 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-jacob-from-the-castillo-protocol-the-most-generic-looking-protag-for-a-semi-major-game-in-the-last-five-years.660856/page-5#post-97541440

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White dude bad. Upvotes to the left.

Accusations :confused

Meanwhile, they consider Rey from the new Star Wars trilogy amazing over there.

Also, The Racist Has Spoken

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Let's cut to the chase here.

White men spent hundreds of years forcibly making themselves the face of the heroic everyman in fiction, whitewashing ostensibly non-white characters and narratives, and simultaneously upholding barriers for non-white people to tell their own stories in various mediums.

You all are everywhere in fiction, and while this level of indoctrination means it's "easy to relate" to white men, the other side of the coin means there's nothing creatively interesting about a white man as a protagonist in any story at this point. We've seen you all before whether we wanted to or not. And this suddenly doesn't become less true just because we're now scanning in real actors into video games.

The Callisto Protocol was interesting insofar as it was a spiritual sequel to Dead Space. But it would've perked my ears more had a Black person been in the driver's seat instead.

Yes, had the game starred a black person being the one tossed in a maximum security prison, you totally wouldn’t have had any problems with that.

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Exactly, and this is part of the "generic" argument for many (although, I do wish they'd actually articulate it the way you did to express their specific wants for a character which would actually give something of substance to consider and help prevent people dismissing it).

I'd like to see some prominent non-binary, trans, and characters with disabilities too. Especially in a world of future tech, there's a lot you can explore with prosthesis and how that affects the character.

Of course, more non-white characters are something we need more of, women especially.

There's so much more we can do than able bodied white guy, we've had so much of that already and it just makes the stories feel far less interesting.

This is a game that’s a spiritual successor to the Dead Space series where you fight off monsters. What about a character being trans or in a wheelchair or whatever would be interesting beyond “they’re trans and/or in a wheelchair!”? That’s all it would be, checking off a box. That’s all they ever want in these situations.

It just seems so strangely backwards argue that being black or non-binary would instantly make the character interesting. They're not actually making any argument here. It's like someone arguing how interesting it would be if the character had blue hair.

If your argument is that you just want to see yourself in that character then say that, don't act like it would suddenly make a boring character interesting because you haven't changed anything about the character beyond superficial elements.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34807 on: December 04, 2022, 02:30:46 PM »
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That is not even close to what she said. You're putting words in her mouth.

Good old ZeoVagina apparently can’t read

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there's nothing creatively interesting about a white man as a protagonist in any story at this point


Another Neppy banger

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Imagine trying to equivocate apathy to white protagonists with actual hate. This is why people don't take gamers seriously.

You constantly spew extreme hate, stupid. Your very first post in that thread is full of it.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34808 on: December 04, 2022, 02:32:07 PM »
They’ve got these unique death animations in the game too. Already had one where Jacob gets his eyes gouged out and another where he has his head torn off from around the jaw area.

The seething rage from Neppy if that was a black character  :lol “a studio founded by the white devil reveling in these close up shots of a black man being brutally murdered? They aren’t slick”

Great point. Remember people losing their shit over the violent death animations in Tomb Raider? Now let's do that with a hyper detailed lupita nyong'o and watch Kotaku pop a vein

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34809 on: December 04, 2022, 02:34:56 PM »
Gaptoothed Astro and ZeroVagine going double time to defend Nepnep’s honor now  :lol
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34810 on: December 04, 2022, 02:37:27 PM »
Quote from: Nepenthe, post: 97543861, member: 1995
But it would've perked my ears more had a Black person been in the driver's seat instead.

:salute


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34811 on: December 04, 2022, 02:38:06 PM »
Now you can, of course, make stories confronting the sociopolitical meaning of these traits, what it means to actually be a white man in a society where these traits mean you're on top of the totem pole by default.

I'd honestly love to see Nepenthe write a story about a white guy who gets thrown into prison and somehow include that the guy should be happy for this privilege. At this point I imagine she thinks every white man sits in some skyscraper smoking a cigar and laughing

 :success

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34812 on: December 04, 2022, 02:45:10 PM »
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I knew we'd inevitably get to the "You're the real racist" part of the thread...

Well…yeah. What’s the point of that entire thread otherwise?  :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34813 on: December 04, 2022, 02:50:58 PM »
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Well, it's not wild to say that. Especially in the eyes of a person of color, who have seen themselves underrepresented their entire lives.

White men have ruled fiction in America for most of its existence.

So then, she DID say exactly what you just previously said she didn’t say? Get off your knees, ZeoVag  :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34814 on: December 04, 2022, 02:58:37 PM »
Quote from: Nepenthe, post: 97547098, member: 1995
Let me put it another way:

Do even the white men here get excited at a white man being a protagonist?

Not get excited at the game mechanics, or the world-building, or the art design of a game a white man happens to be a protagonist in.

Have you ever in your life actually been legitimately hyped to see a white man being presented as a white man in a major work of fiction?

Like, what was your Black Panther moment? Where were you in the world where you were like "Finally, a white man's story is being told?"

I'm curious.

It all comes back to marvel with these morons :snoop
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34815 on: December 04, 2022, 03:00:20 PM »
One of the things I hate about the post Tumblr era is that idea that people cannot be racist against white people (or that is less damaging even if your talk like a Stormfront poster).

Doesn’t mean that stuff like white privilege doesn’t exist but trying to fight racism with racism is so stupid, self defeating and self serving.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34816 on: December 04, 2022, 03:02:16 PM »
Quote from: Nepenthe, post: 97547098, member: 1995
Let me put it another way:

Do even the white men here get excited at a white man being a protagonist?

Not get excited at the game mechanics, or the world-building, or the art design of a game a white man happens to be a protagonist in.

Have you ever in your life actually been legitimately hyped to see a white man being presented as a white man in a major work of fiction?

Like, what was your Black Panther moment? Where were you in the world where you were like "Finally, a white man's story is being told?"

I'm curious.

It all comes back to marvel with these morons :snoop

She’s totally not saying white protagonists can’t be interesting though.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34817 on: December 04, 2022, 03:03:11 PM »
Quote from: Nepenthe, post: 97547098, member: 1995
Let me put it another way:

Do even the white men here get excited at a white man being a protagonist?

Not get excited at the game mechanics, or the world-building, or the art design of a game a white man happens to be a protagonist in.

Have you ever in your life actually been legitimately hyped to see a white man being presented as a white man in a major work of fiction?

Like, what was your Black Panther moment? Where were you in the world where you were like "Finally, a white man's story is being told?"

I'm curious.

It all comes back to marvel with these morons :snoop

Don't you know that Black Panther was the first time a black man's story was being told?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34818 on: December 04, 2022, 03:04:41 PM »
Quote from: Nepenthe, post: 97547098, member: 1995
Let me put it another way:

Do even the white men here get excited at a white man being a protagonist?

Not get excited at the game mechanics, or the world-building, or the art design of a game a white man happens to be a protagonist in.

Have you ever in your life actually been legitimately hyped to see a white man being presented as a white man in a major work of fiction?

Like, what was your Black Panther moment? Where were you in the world where you were like "Finally, a white man's story is being told?"

I'm curious.

It all comes back to marvel with these morons :snoop

nep, an adult is not supposed to have a black panther moment

you're allowed to enjoy movies but nothing about it was significant or meaningful in any way, the same as "white" media
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34819 on: December 04, 2022, 03:14:34 PM »
It’s all kicking off now, only time until a few bans are handed out.

The hounds (Zeo/Astro) will be looking for kills

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34820 on: December 04, 2022, 03:17:12 PM »
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Love the casual racism on this website.

Godspeed  :salute

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34821 on: December 04, 2022, 03:17:25 PM »
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the other side of the coin means there's nothing creatively interesting about a white man as a protagonist in any story at this point.
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Posts like these just screams I dislike white people in videogames.

I find it perfectly okay to cheer for non-white leads and trying to give more exposure to games that has one but to basically say "I don't want to play as white man" sounds pretty hateful in today's era where we try to strive for equality.
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Imagine trying to equivocate apathy to white protagonists with actual hate. This is why people don't take gamers seriously.
:huh

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34822 on: December 04, 2022, 03:22:23 PM »
Yet to see Wakanda Forever, but given that didn’t set the world in fire, I genuinely doubt that Disney or even Ryan Clooger understand why the original Black Panther resonated even with not black or American centric audiences. The film was smart enough to be self critical of Wakanda and all the hero king lineage BS, T’Challa was well intentioned but not perfect and the villain had a point while still obviously a hypocrite and self serving asshole.

It was typical superhero film, but one done very well and with a different pseudo cultural background than a  regular Hollywood film.

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« Reply #34823 on: December 04, 2022, 03:26:13 PM »
Quote from: Nepenthe, post: 97547098, member: 1995
Let me put it another way:

Do even the white men here get excited at a white man being a protagonist?

Not get excited at the game mechanics, or the world-building, or the art design of a game a white man happens to be a protagonist in.

Have you ever in your life actually been legitimately hyped to see a white man being presented as a white man in a major work of fiction?

Like, what was your Black Panther moment? Where were you in the world where you were like "Finally, a white man's story is being told?"

I'm curious.

It all comes back to marvel with these morons :snoop

nep, an adult is not supposed to have a black panther moment

you're allowed to enjoy movies but nothing about it was significant or meaningful in any way, the same as "white" media
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hard to have a black panther moment when you've never been under represented
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But people who are upset with what I said are nonetheless insisting that a white man, in and of itself, is an interesting creative choice. Hence why I posed the question. Name a work that was exciting just because a white man was the protagonist of it, aka what is white men's "Black Panther?"

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« Reply #34824 on: December 04, 2022, 03:28:12 PM »
Quote from: Nepenthe, post: 97547098, member: 1995
Let me put it another way:

Do even the white men here get excited at a white man being a protagonist?

Not get excited at the game mechanics, or the world-building, or the art design of a game a white man happens to be a protagonist in.

Have you ever in your life actually been legitimately hyped to see a white man being presented as a white man in a major work of fiction?

Like, what was your Black Panther moment? Where were you in the world where you were like "Finally, a white man's story is being told?"

I'm curious.

It all comes back to marvel with these morons :snoop
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Do even the white men here get excited at a white man being a protagonist?
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Probably terrified of getting a ban to edit :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34825 on: December 04, 2022, 03:39:32 PM »
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But people who are upset with what I said are nonetheless insisting that a white man, in and of itself, is an interesting creative choice. Hence why I posed the question. Name a work that was exciting just because a white man was the protagonist of it, aka what is white men's "Black Panther?"

Did she thinks that Black Panther was the first black superhero in the big screen?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34826 on: December 04, 2022, 03:54:17 PM »
All the big hitters coming to the thread, the discord notifications must have been popping off

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« Reply #34827 on: December 04, 2022, 04:12:07 PM »
And like others have said, Karen Fukuhara is right fucking there. Though the brutal deaths could've ended in another Tomb Raider situation, but I'm positive that could've also been avoided by just, you know, asking women how they feel about a woman almost moaning in pain to the point where I've seen more than enough men talk about how that shit got them off, because they just imagined her orgasming instead. But that's not the topic of this thread

 :wut

How would that avoid the complaints? Like even in that post you're already getting ready to make the wildest claims about the Tom Raider developers intentions.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34828 on: December 04, 2022, 04:13:36 PM »
Mad when developers stay in their lane and go with a white dude, even if the white dude is a ginger like Cal in the Jedi games. Mad when they go with anyone not white because it’s somehow still missing what would truly make the character unique.

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34829 on: December 04, 2022, 04:16:03 PM »
One of the things I hate about the post Tumblr era is that idea that people cannot be racist against white people (or that is less damaging even if your talk like a Stormfront poster).

Doesn’t mean that stuff like white privilege doesn’t exist but trying to fight racism with racism is so stupid, self defeating and self serving.


A lot of racism comes from self-loathing.  You bet your ass Nepenthe has glimpses of honest self-reflection, where she realizes all her problems don't come from systemic white capitalism and oppression, but that she just sucked at putting her mind to things and reaching for more for herself.  At some point she has to encounter successful black people that aren't being held down by whitey, and the cognitive dissonance stings hard.  It's the reason why she's so aggressive with her hatred, because it has to have an attribute of fierceness to combat the intense feelings of self-hate she has for what she became.  This is the same with really racist white people - they avoid the mistakes and problems in their personal life and tend to look at macro-level issues like immigration and their race being replaced, delapidation of communities they don't live in, violent crime they never are victims of, jews controlling banks that they benignly participate with, etc.  because they don't have the power or can't take responsibility to fix the problems in their personal life.  Nepenthe is a pitiable person because she's powerless, and the forum is her way of screaming outside of the void to anyone who will listen.  And the people that listen enable her victim complex in ways that most racist white people get (rightly) rebuffed for.  It's sad to feel this powerless and to have this much anger pent up. 

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« Reply #34830 on: December 04, 2022, 04:17:38 PM »
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If this thread was titled "Let's talk about the lack of representation of leads in videogames" with this character just used as one of many examples, we wouldn't even get takes. Most would just ignore the thread.

At least they are exposing themselves here. Lots of gaslighting and trying to turn it around like they're slick

"maybe YOU are the problem for not wanting white leads in videogames"

And there is your “slick” post  :lol

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Certain people really showing up to this thread, eh?

Indeed they are, Resetera’s Mightiest Ball Washer ZeoVGM

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I wouldn't have liked this. Not because she's bad (love her on The Boys) but because of the aforementioned reason.

So you want a badass woman character BUT WAIT no violent things can happen to her in the M rated action game. She needs to be protected from the violent things happening.

They truly don’t get how THAT is what’s generic. That’s boring. It’s exactly why many bounced off characters like Rey. They are saying solely because the character is a woman, violence in a violent ass game cannot happen to her. It’s the definition of the damn Mary Sue trope for crying out loud  :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34831 on: December 04, 2022, 04:17:52 PM »
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the other side of the coin means there's nothing creatively interesting about a white man as a protagonist in any story at this point.

imagine saying this about literally anyone or anything

"there's nothing creatively interesting about including a watering can in any story at this point"

"there's nothing creatively interesting about including a dog in any story at this point"

"there's nothing creatively interesting about including a restaurant in any story at this point"
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34832 on: December 04, 2022, 04:25:47 PM »
Reminder: The apex of creativity for Nepenthe are black dudes talking to cops in Need For Speed: Heat.   I don't really care if she thinks Citizen Kane sucks because the guy in it is white

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34833 on: December 04, 2022, 04:29:05 PM »
"there's nothing creatively interesting about including a restaurant in any story at this point"

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34834 on: December 04, 2022, 04:42:21 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-jacob-from-the-castillo-protocol-the-most-generic-looking-protag-for-a-semi-major-game-in-the-last-five-years.660856/page-9#post-97551814

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Lol you should not have to do this on the weekend.

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I make time where I can lol.

Nepnep sacrificing her precious time of playing Overwatch using the same character for 6 years in order to share her pearls of wisdom with us peons :bow :bow2
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34835 on: December 04, 2022, 04:57:12 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-jacob-from-the-castillo-protocol-the-most-generic-looking-protag-for-a-semi-major-game-in-the-last-five-years.660856/page-9#post-97551814

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Lol you should not have to do this on the weekend.

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I make time where I can lol.

Nepnep sacrificing her precious time of playing Overwatch using the same character for 6 years in order to share her pearls of wisdom with us peons :bow :bow2

She even gave tips in how to get stuff that you want for free in the gacha/lootBoxes of the first game… a system designed to waste your time or pay upfront to get what you want.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34836 on: December 04, 2022, 04:58:48 PM »
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No one's saying that a game with a white lead can't be enjoyed. People are saying that they're not about to flock to these games just for the representation of a white man being in a main role. These are two different arguments.

Even white people aren't playing these games because they're excited to play as white men. I should know; I literally asked.

She has the empirical data.   :science 

I wonder if, "I don't really give a shit what race the character is" was one of the options of her peer-reviewed questionnaire thesis.   Of course, to avoid sample bias she'd have to ask normal people that don't post on Resetera, and that's just flirting with racism.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34837 on: December 04, 2022, 05:04:54 PM »
Almost like people don’t want to engage with a known looney tune that can nuke your account for the pettiest of reasons  :thinking
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34838 on: December 04, 2022, 05:04:58 PM »
And all this from a moderator on a board that constantly swears to be inclusive to all. Phenomenal stuff.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34839 on: December 04, 2022, 05:09:29 PM »
Quote from: Nepenthe, post: 97547098, member: 1995
Let me put it another way:

Do even the white men here get excited at a white man being a protagonist?

Not get excited at the game mechanics, or the world-building, or the art design of a game a white man happens to be a protagonist in.

Have you ever in your life actually been legitimately hyped to see a white man being presented as a white man in a major work of fiction?

Like, what was your Black Panther moment? Where were you in the world where you were like "Finally, a white man's story is being told?"

I'm curious.

It all comes back to marvel with these morons :snoop

I like how nepenthe is so self-absorbed she can't even consider the idea that that moment is literally every non-american seeing themself as the lead in a hollywood film.
"Oh cool, its a french guy as the star!"

Maybe should start talking abut the "white diaspora" until neopets understands that murica != the world oh who the fuck am I kidding

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34840 on: December 04, 2022, 05:11:57 PM »
Quote from: Nepenthe
No one's saying that a game with a white lead can't be enjoyed. People are saying that they're not about to flock to these games just for the representation of a white man being in a main role. These are two different arguments.

Even white people aren't playing these games because they're excited to play as white men. I should know; I literally asked.

She has the empirical data.   :science 

I wonder if, "I don't really give a shit what race the character is" was one of the options of her peer-reviewed questionnaire thesis.   Of course, to avoid sample bias she'd have to ask normal people that don't post on Resetera, and that's just flirting with racism.

She’s right, they instead flock to games like the new Saints Row! Oh wait what’s that? It got torn to shreds by reviewers, bombed harder than her ability to grasp what a lease is and Volition was moved to other things? Oh ok.

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« Reply #34841 on: December 04, 2022, 05:14:09 PM »
Quote from: Nepenthe, post: 97547098, member: 1995
Let me put it another way:

Do even the white men here get excited at a white man being a protagonist?

Not get excited at the game mechanics, or the world-building, or the art design of a game a white man happens to be a protagonist in.

Have you ever in your life actually been legitimately hyped to see a white man being presented as a white man in a major work of fiction?

Like, what was your Black Panther moment? Where were you in the world where you were like "Finally, a white man's story is being told?"

I'm curious.

It all comes back to marvel with these morons :snoop

I like how nepenthe is so self-absorbed she can't even consider the idea that that moment is literally every non-american seeing themself as the lead in a hollywood film.
"Oh cool, its a french guy as the star!"

Maybe should start talking abut the "white diaspora" until neopets understands that murica != the world oh who the fuck am I kidding

nothing worse than being forced to play as an American in a video game... do better lazy devs

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34842 on: December 04, 2022, 05:18:38 PM »
nothing worse than being forced to play as an American in a video game... do better lazy devs

but also, all perceived wypipo are basically americans even when explicitly not to further this point, like Ryu from streetfighter

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34843 on: December 04, 2022, 05:38:49 PM »
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I am looking for advice
Of all the places to ask
https://www.resetera.com/threads/almost-two-years-ago-i-accidentally-rear-ended-someone-and-today-ive-been-served-papers-now-what.660937/#post-97553104
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« Reply #34844 on: December 04, 2022, 05:50:12 PM »
Quote from: Nepenthe, post: 97547098, member: 1995
Let me put it another way:

Do even the white men here get excited at a white man being a protagonist?

Not get excited at the game mechanics, or the world-building, or the art design of a game a white man happens to be a protagonist in.

Have you ever in your life actually been legitimately hyped to see a white man being presented as a white man in a major work of fiction?

Like, what was your Black Panther moment? Where were you in the world where you were like "Finally, a white man's story is being told?"

I'm curious.

It all comes back to marvel with these morons :snoop
Anyone who identifies that closely with any video game protagonist (who are usually mass murdering psychopaths) is a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow. Just play your shitty shoot shoot bang kill game and shut the fuck up Neopetenthe.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34845 on: December 04, 2022, 06:00:43 PM »
Quote from: Nepenthe
No one's saying that a game with a white lead can't be enjoyed. People are saying that they're not about to flock to these games just for the representation of a white man being in a main role. These are two different arguments.

Even white people aren't playing these games because they're excited to play as white men. I should know; I literally asked.

She has the empirical data.   :science 

I wonder if, "I don't really give a shit what race the character is" was one of the options of her peer-reviewed questionnaire thesis.   Of course, to avoid sample bias she'd have to ask normal people that don't post on Resetera, and that's just flirting with racism.
...and if someone has said that, you fucking idiot, you would have banned them.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34847 on: December 04, 2022, 06:15:10 PM »
Pointing out the truth is trolling. Predictable  :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34848 on: December 04, 2022, 06:33:32 PM »
who cares about that? Any new reddit dick pics?

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« Reply #34849 on: December 04, 2022, 07:13:49 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kanye-west-launches-white-lives-matter-line-for-yeezys-up2-says-in-alex-jones-interview-hitler-had-value.639399/page-109#post-97539448
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Various things are linked to extremism and mental health conditions like depression, BPD can increase your chances, same with poverty and being devoutly religious. It’s doesn’t mean that is 100% chance it happens but in scientific terms they are statistically significant. All that means it has an impact, small one at that, since we have people who have their mental health issues, come from poverty and religion and they don’t turn out to become Nazis.

With Bipolar people there are three main classifications, one where they can function without destroying their lives and just need help from a professional to stabilize their mood. Obviously Kanye has a more severe form because he is destroying his life in various ways, from the professional to his family, friends and we are witnessing the train wreck live through social media.

While we all wished he received help and he has but he has chosen that it’s not worth it to him. He feels that the manic phase of his disease is his super power and without it he can’t be the creative genius he feels he is. And that’s not uncommon which people with BPD because in a manic phase, you gain energy, confidence, feelings of euphoria but we see how that can turn ugly. In the end you can’t help someone who doesn’t want.

I recently worked with a patient who who had several mental health issues. One minute he’ll be happy to see you, next minute he’ll cuss you out then minutes later he’ll apologize and start crying. He would sexually harass the staff,he was narcissistic, craved attention and would do extreme things like act out as a nazi , seig heil and all. Dude would be sweet too but everyone grew to hate him by the end of his stay and he got transferred eventually.

It’s difficult to process working with these types because he was a POS but he obviously had issues that are difficult to control. How much are you allowed to hate someone like that and how much do you have to endure someone like this? I wouldn’t wish condition on my worst enemies. and that makes it difficult to process because you want to be sympathetic on some level but god damn are they hateable. Our pain/anger is valid and it’s not lessened because they have a clinical diagnosis. I don’t feel most people where making excuses as much as addressing it in a clumsily manner. If people were saying adidas or Kim should keep backing him then yeah thats garbage, he’s earned his consequences. Hopefully out of this spectacle we increase funding and awareness for those that need it.
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In case you happen to see this, go fuck yourself

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34850 on: December 04, 2022, 07:37:15 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-jacob-from-the-castillo-protocol-the-most-generic-looking-protag-for-a-semi-major-game-in-the-last-five-years.660856/page-9#post-97551814

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Lol you should not have to do this on the weekend.

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I make time where I can lol.

Nepnep sacrificing her precious time of playing Overwatch using the same character for 6 years in order to share her pearls of wisdom with us peons :bow :bow2

Does she recognize that she has the privilege to make time? She recently made a point that free time is privilege even if spent on volunteering and charity.

 :skinner

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34851 on: December 04, 2022, 07:47:54 PM »
This whole diversity discussion reminded me of this recent thing

https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1598358330556260353

People got mad because two of the mean characters happen to be black. Neither are stereotypical roles for black characters, one the leader of the mean girl clique at the school, the other mayor of the city, nor are they the only poc in the show (the lead actress is Latino for example) but none of that matters.
It's just a fucking minefield where every move seems to be the wrong move

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Burton and Netflix has yet to react to the reports publicly, but when the New York Post requested comment from Burton, his rep dismissed it by saying: “I’m not forwarding a comment request this silly to Tim.”

 :ohyeah

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34852 on: December 04, 2022, 07:59:31 PM »
Neppy Hitler is getting closer and closer to her Kanye moment. I reckon her outburst will be something along the lines of Jews collaborated against poc

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34853 on: December 04, 2022, 08:12:07 PM »
Neppy Hitler is getting closer and closer to her Kanye moment. I reckon her outburst will be something along the lines of Jews collaborated against poc

Either that, or she’ll go the other direction and start claiming she’s part-jewish, adding another plate to her armor of the oppressed.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34854 on: December 04, 2022, 08:12:09 PM »
It's just a fucking minefield where every move seems to be the wrong move

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34855 on: December 04, 2022, 09:02:01 PM »

Either that, or she’ll go the other direction and start claiming she’s part-jewish, adding another plate to her armor of the oppressed.

Eh. They'd have to de-programme her first. She won't give up her fez easily

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34856 on: December 04, 2022, 10:38:26 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/elon-musk-twitter-drama-ot-let%E2%80%99s-keep-it-here-parody-%F0%9F%94%B5-official-%EA%95%A4-up-musk-exposes-that-twitter-censored-stolen-naked-pictures.649272/page-409#post-97481263
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I saw one of the pics and damn daddy is hung 🤗


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Sad to see apple and amazon crawling back
Neonazis buy phones and assorted bullshit same as non brain damaged folks do

Commercialism reigns
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34857 on: December 04, 2022, 10:48:30 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/farha-netflix-jordans-oscars-entry-filmmakers-release-statement-after-backlash-from-israel-government-media-and-imdb-review-bombing.660847/#post-97557592
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I've been reading about this the last few days. If it's on Portuguese Netflix I'll watch it and then keep it playing in the background. Fuck Israel.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/farha-netflix-jordans-oscars-entry-filmmakers-release-statement-after-backlash-from-israel-government-media-and-imdb-review-bombing.660847/page-2#post-97560481
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I put this on my list but haven't watched it yet. I l expect I'll need to steel myself emotionally. I did let it play in the background and gave it the thumbs up for the data.

 :salute
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« Reply #34858 on: December 04, 2022, 10:48:45 PM »
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I'm going to be honest and I'll probably be dog piled for it but I find the whole people having problems with dinosaurs having feathers to be very toxic masculinity for lack of a better word/term. I feel like it boils down to scary lizards = cool and masculine and feathered birds = unmasculine and uncool. Doesn't matter that these creatures can still kill with extreme ease, the fact it has feathers is too much to even consider to be cool or dangerous. I feel like a lot of you guys complaining could be getting eviscerated by one and be shouting insults at it, if you had no feathers you'd be cooler while killing me! Call that a tear? I've seen scarier teddy bears!
https://www.resetera.com/threads/world%E2%80%99s-first-swimming-dinosaur-discovered-in-mongolia.660985/post-97563706

 :doge

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #34859 on: December 05, 2022, 12:11:24 AM »
Quote from: Nepenthe, post: 97543861, member: 1995
Let's cut to the chase here.

White men spent hundreds of years forcibly making themselves the face of the heroic everyman in fiction, whitewashing ostensibly non-white characters and narratives, and simultaneously upholding barriers for non-white people to tell their own stories in various mediums.

You all are everywhere in fiction, and while this level of indoctrination means it's "easy to relate" to white men, the other side of the coin means there's nothing creatively interesting about a white man as a protagonist in any story at this point. We've seen you all before whether we wanted to or not. And this suddenly doesn't become less true just because we're now scanning in real actors into video games.

The Callisto Protocol was interesting insofar as it was a spiritual sequel to Dead Space. But it would've perked my ears more had a Black person been in the driver's seat instead.
It just seems so strangely backwards argue that being black or non-binary would instantly make the character interesting. They're not actually making any argument here. It's like someone arguing how interesting it would be if the character had blue hair.

If your argument is that you just want to see yourself in that character then say that, don't act like it would suddenly make a boring character interesting because you haven't changed anything about the character beyond superficial elements.
She literally said that they could have changed nothing, grabbed the first Black guy they saw off the street and scanned him instead, and she'd find it to be "creatively interesting" now. Because she's stupid and stunted she doesn't realize she's telling everyone that she's incredibly vain and superficial.

Quote from: Nepenthe, post: 97547098, member: 1995
Let me put it another way:

Do even the white men here get excited at a white man being a protagonist?

Not get excited at the game mechanics, or the world-building, or the art design of a game a white man happens to be a protagonist in.

Have you ever in your life actually been legitimately hyped to see a white man being presented as a white man in a major work of fiction?

Like, what was your Black Panther moment? Where were you in the world where you were like "Finally, a white man's story is being told?"

I'm curious.
What's a "white man's story"? Why would I think there's a single one that needs to be told? Why would I get excited about the appearance of the main character of any story?

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But people who are upset with what I said are nonetheless insisting that a white man, in and of itself, is an interesting creative choice. Hence why I posed the question. Name a work that was exciting just because a white man was the protagonist of it, aka what is white men's "Black Panther?"
Here she does it again. What's exciting about Black Panther? Nothing but the fact that the protagonist was a Black man. Decades of movies starring Will Smith, Wesley Snipes, Samuel L. Jackson, Denzel Washington, etc.? Hush, child, those weren't a Black man's story like this one. This is our moment, you wouldn't understand. (All other Black people: "the fuck?")