Other Forums Containment Thread

[Potato]

When you open the door for games being banned, don't be surprised when a game that has possible real, life-and-death consequences not being banned raises questions. The ERA mods walked right into this quagmire starting with Cyberpunk 2077. Their current tactic, so far, is to just ban everyone into submission that questions this pick-and choosy double standard they have with banning games.

Being fair, they are desperate to find more reasons to get this banned than being a Russian product that, one way or another, finances the war effort.

Here's the thing, even with the context of "popular cartoon in Russia" or "actual product label", looking at just how many of these things there are makes me definitely question how much of it is just coincidental and without any sort of other intent.

Like, any single one of these things? Sure, whatever. But all of them together along with the other questionable elements (sexy sex robots, upgrade fridge sexual assault, etc.) definitely makes me look at it as a purposeful trend, not a mistake.

A lot of this reminds me of Breathedge's shitty things that were "hidden" away (sort of like can labels or in-game cartoons would be) but those were WAY more glaring and had WAY worse versions in the earlier beta versions of the game in Early Access.

I… I don’t think that is how it works…

“There is a lot little innocuous and easily explained shit, hence is intentional alt right”. 

The funny thing, it looks there is a lot of Russian video games with more explicit cuestionable content and directly linked to ultra nationalist Russians. Warlockcracy seems to cover most of them.

This whole atomic heart affair is so dumb. Part of the money might go to the russian goverment and then finance the war, that's a legit concern and something everyone needs to make their own decision about.
But all this shitflinging about "omg, this game has sexy robots" (Good lord have they gone prude when every single game that has an attractive character is problematic) "look at the can label" "omg, what flowers is that drone carrying" then you don't look like you're providing more evidence, you're looking like you're just desperately slinging shit like a conspiracy nut because you reach for anything that fulfills your preconception.

ERA:
Game possibly facilitating war and civilian deaths....

ERA:
Appearance of sexiness that tickle straight men's fancy...

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Is that a preggo sex robot?

 

[maninthemirror]

So how it works :


One ad for cyberpunk 2077
Era: this game is steeped in transphobia

A Hogwarts game with no input from Rowling
This game contributes in trans genocide as soon as the player purchases the game. A trans woman is killed by Joanne every time a twitch stream dies. Joanne is worse than Putin and Qanon republicans .

[Yulwei]

Earlier ESRB ratings mentioned the game having nudity. Looks like they removed it? Would appreciate if they eliminated female objectification.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/diablo-iv-inside-the-game-the-world-of-sanctuary-video.689299/#post-101623384

Diablo 4, a game with nonstop photorealistic gore, blood, dismemberment, pus filled corpses, etc = 

Diablo 4, a game where you might see demon titty every now and then = 

[John Dunbar]

I know the moderation team there has a combined IQ lower than Forspoken’s sales figures, but cracking down hard on demands for games to be banned, like such an idea is unthinkable, immediately after very publicly banning probably the most popular game of the year, makes you look like fucking nutters.

I'm sure they will clear it all up with a six paragraph post meant to look like a press release.

[team filler]

tailbanera!

[benjipwns]

A rogue nation run by a sociopathic dictator that poisons political opposition, throws anyone deemed objectionable out of windows, constantly threatens nuclear war, invades sovereign nations, doesn't adhere to any international standards of conduct, commits war crimes is trying to sell its products abroad.

But enough about America.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-is-your-avatars-favorite-food.687298/page-3#post-101340835

User Banned (1 Week): Boys Club Rhetoric

Pussy

TRANS WOMEN (AND OTHER LESBIANS) ARE WOMEN

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/page-4#post-101622622

User banned (1 week): derailing the thread with metacommentary about moderation policies

Banning sale of this game in Ukraine is a very reasonable ask, I'm not sure why people are against that. But I'm also not sure why people are actively against playing this game when it's not russian propoganda, started dev far before the war, is not made by the government, and is not funded by the government. The developers happen to live on Russian soil and they are bad people for that?

Couldn't this same thing be said towards the last banned game here? It's very similar yet one is banned and one is not.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/easy-allies-ot3-begin-corrections-music-please.145554/page-368#post-101472265

User banned (1 month): Dismissive attitude about banned games

I dont see the problem with a company that covers video games, covering a video game. Im sure there are plenty of people in their audience that want to hear their thoughts on the game that warrants them covering it.

They banned this guy for talking about a podcast or whatever talking about a game? The staff do know that their arbitrary and not well publicized rules don't extend outside the forum right?

And don't think I didn't notice all the edited posts on that page and how the cops moved along from those including ones who mentioned the banned game. They pretty much came into the thread, shot this guy for possibly implied criticism of the staff and left the body in public as a warning.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/page-5#post-101632123

This thread is so fucking funny.

Super cynical resetera explaining how these food cans used to be in production so it's OKAY!

The people doing that sound exactly like trumpers who explain away his evilness too.

Also, we are ignoring racist cartoons now? Yeah I know their's a fucking thread, but a lot of people are concentrating on what they can defend.

I vibe checked this place since October 2017, and it has literally without a doubt gone into the shitter.

You're being infiltrated era.

 

[benjipwns]

The staff do know that their arbitrary and not well publicized rules don't extend outside the forum right?

Oh wait, I forgot that they permaban you if you post on other websites, admit to visiting other websites or criticize Nepenthe on Twitter.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/page-5#post-101633434

User Banned (2 Weeks): Inflammatory accusations towards other members across multiple posts, account in junior phase

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how to spot a trumper

[Nintex]

There's also the issue of this being an opportunity to push back against the wave of authoritarianism that has been sweeping across the world in the last decade or so and show everyone that this sort of thing isn't ok and leads to bad outcomes.

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/page-5#post-101632123

This thread is so fucking funny.

Super cynical resetera explaining how these food cans used to be in production so it's OKAY!

The people doing that sound exactly like trumpers who explain away his evilness too.

Also, we are ignoring racist cartoons now? Yeah I know their's a fucking thread, but a lot of people are concentrating on what they can defend.

I vibe checked this place since October 2017, and it has literally without a doubt gone into the shitter.

You're being infiltrated era.

 

The vibes have been checked and found lacking.

[Pissy F Benny]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-uh-theres-a-racist-cartoon-in-atomic-heart.689227/page-2#post-101606869
Incoming permban for ignoring site wide staff post

Well, when you set a precedent it should be followed in all situations, no? But it's quite simple, one is a cause that the mods care about and the other isn't.

Sure, if the mods can keep up with banning every thread on
Atomic Heart (Russia mass murders)
Warhammer Space Marine 2 (Russia mass murders)
Warhammer Rogue Trader (Russia mass murders)
Every Call of Duty (propaganda for US military mass murders and war crimes)
Every FIFA (their involvement with slavery and genocide in Qatar)
Everything involving Microsoft (their involvement with US military mass murders)
All consoles (linked to genocide in China)
And thousands more... plus all the infighting in all threads as users fight over which mass murders are more mass murdery than the other mass murders. What's the threshold for investment Saudi Arabia has in a company before we ban them? 8%, 20%, 51%?

Meanwhile there probably won't be another major Rowling thing to ban on this side for like 6 years. One is a far easier policy, and they almost didn't go with the wizard ban because even for one game it's such a massive pain.

The Qatar led genocide is a new one on me

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/page-5#post-101636227

They were never getting my time and money before and they definitely aren't now. I won't even redeem this game if it's free on Plus.

 

[HaughtyFrank]

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/page-5#post-101636227

They were never getting my time and money before and they definitely aren't now. I won't even redeem this game if it's free on Plus.

 

They say that but it's Sony and a freebie is a freebie to them.

[nobody of note]

Constructive thread has been going off about the secret rules, banned games, bannable banning asking for games, etc in light of the Atomic Heart stuff.

Morrigan weighs in with her disappointment in moderation:

Nah...

They deploy site banners (such as the GOTY threads etc.) all the time to broadcast and communicate updates to members. Using this tool to say "we updated the ToS to add and/or adjust some of the rules, see here [link] for more details" should be a no-brainer.
It could have been done for the Hogwart policy *, the "cunt" usage policy, and the policy of making it an infraction to demand bans on games or content creators (which, I support! but like, make it officially known before you start banning people for it, you know?), among other things. I was waiting for it to happen and I was sure they were just tied up and that it was coming any day now, but since it's been a month since the Hogwart policy thread was posted and it still hasn't been added to the banned game list in the FAQ nor any such site-wide alert has been posted, well, I wonder.

* I know there's the sticky thread, but I also know that stickies are often missed or ignored and that stickying a thread often has the opposite effect of its purpose (and I also know that staff knows this too).

Nepenthe weighs in with the galaxy-brain explanation that they know but they haven't had the time to update the rules because... they've been neglecting updating the rules for so long it's a lot of work

We are aware that the rule page is outdated and needs some freshing up. This has been on the docket for me and Hecht for some time. We just have a lot of both catching up to do with regards to subsequent rules we've made since it's been updated, as well as rewriting some things that could stand to have more clarification.

Possibly making it the responsibility of solely Nepenthe and Hecht wasn't the smartest idea ever, but these are (unpaid) moderation professionals so who am I to judge.

[HaughtyFrank]

So basically there's so many unwritten rules they need to take a some time off to write them?   

And they don't see the slightest issue with banning people for rules that haven't even been written down?   

[Uncle]

Kind of goes back to my thought about the marginalization of trans people being far and away more important than any other group, as if there actually is an "oppressions olympics" hierarchy.

what I've found interesting is how percentage of the population matters, but only to a point

trans are supposedly less than 2% of the population, which makes them more oppressed than groups which might make up 10%-40%

but for groups of truly niche weirdos that most people have never heard of, oppression is still cool, the fabled bridge too far

people with headmates, otherkin, trans-racial, that one guy on era who politely asked people to stop using "bastard" because he was one

you get to a certain point and "you can't possibly be oppressed or deserve respect for this viewpoint because there aren't enough of you crying out for help so you in particular are just being difficult and trying to claim privilege you don't deserve"

[Uncle]

Earlier ESRB ratings mentioned the game having nudity. Looks like they removed it? Would appreciate if they eliminated female objectification.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/diablo-iv-inside-the-game-the-world-of-sanctuary-video.689299/#post-101623384

Diablo 4, a game with nonstop photorealistic gore, blood, dismemberment, pus filled corpses, etc = 

Diablo 4, a game where you might see demon titty every now and then = 

based year 2000 gaming

[Taco Bell Tower]

Constructive thread has been going off about the secret rules, banned games, bannable banning asking for games, etc in light of the Atomic Heart stuff.

Morrigan weighs in with her disappointment in moderation:

Nah...

They deploy site banners (such as the GOTY threads etc.) all the time to broadcast and communicate updates to members. Using this tool to say "we updated the ToS to add and/or adjust some of the rules, see here [link] for more details" should be a no-brainer.
It could have been done for the Hogwart policy *, the "cunt" usage policy, and the policy of making it an infraction to demand bans on games or content creators (which, I support! but like, make it officially known before you start banning people for it, you know?), among other things. I was waiting for it to happen and I was sure they were just tied up and that it was coming any day now, but since it's been a month since the Hogwart policy thread was posted and it still hasn't been added to the banned game list in the FAQ nor any such site-wide alert has been posted, well, I wonder.

* I know there's the sticky thread, but I also know that stickies are often missed or ignored and that stickying a thread often has the opposite effect of its purpose (and I also know that staff knows this too).

Nepenthe weighs in with the galaxy-brain explanation that they know but they haven't had the time to update the rules because... they've been neglecting updating the rules for so long it's a lot of work

We are aware that the rule page is outdated and needs some freshing up. This has been on the docket for me and Hecht for some time. We just have a lot of both catching up to do with regards to subsequent rules we've made since it's been updated, as well as rewriting some things that could stand to have more clarification.

Possibly making it the responsibility of solely Nepenthe and Hecht wasn't the smartest idea ever, but these are (unpaid) moderation professionals so who am I to judge.

She's really butthurt over the cunt ban, huh?

[Uncle]

cunthurt

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-uh-theres-a-racist-cartoon-in-atomic-heart.689227/page-2#post-101606869
Incoming permban for ignoring site wide staff post

Well, when you set a precedent it should be followed in all situations, no? But it's quite simple, one is a cause that the mods care about and the other isn't.

Sure, if the mods can keep up with banning every thread on
Atomic Heart (Russia mass murders)
Warhammer Space Marine 2 (Russia mass murders)
Warhammer Rogue Trader (Russia mass murders)
Every Call of Duty (propaganda for US military mass murders and war crimes)
Every FIFA (their involvement with slavery and genocide in Qatar)
Everything involving Microsoft (their involvement with US military mass murders)
All consoles (linked to genocide in China)
And thousands more... plus all the infighting in all threads as users fight over which mass murders are more mass murdery than the other mass murders. What's the threshold for investment Saudi Arabia has in a company before we ban them? 8%, 20%, 51%?

Meanwhile there probably won't be another major Rowling thing to ban on this side for like 6 years. One is a far easier policy, and they almost didn't go with the wizard ban because even for one game it's such a massive pain.

The Qatar led genocide is a new one on me

Bangladeshi slave labour is a race, man, now get on board this genocide train!

[Straight Edge]

Some scientist or psychologist is going to discover a basis for trans-racialism in the next decade and the entire world is going to collapse.

[Potato]

Some scientist or psychologist is going to discover a basis for trans-racialism in the next decade and the entire world is going to collapse.

#RachelDolezalwasright

[Boredfrom]

We are aware that the rule page is outdated and needs some freshing up. This has been on the docket for me and Hecht for some time. We just have a lot of both catching up to do with regards to subsequent rules we've made since it's been updated, as well as rewriting some things that could stand to have more clarification.

You probably has one the biggest daily post count of the site, you idiot. You always have the free time to write stupid racist shit.

[maninthemirror]

Oh my God the j k rowling podcast is going to trigger era so much

It shows in first 2 episodes that the way the trans community targets j k Rowling now is a play by play how evangelicals Christians targeted Rowling for witchcraft in the 2000s

[team filler]

 

[Averon]

Nep has all the time in the world to write long, racist screeds and bitch endlessly about AI and capitalism. But she and her fellow mods can't put aside a few hours--at most--to update their TOS? For fuck sake, it'll take less than a minute to add the text "Hogwarts Legacy" to the banned list of games and they can't even do that. Anyone with any sense should see what Nep said there and be insulted they'd try to pass off such blatant BS as a valid excuse for their shitty, poor moderation.

[benjipwns]

The Qatar led genocide is a new one on me

I mean based on what Joanne's doing, the worker deaths in Qatar are like a supermegagenocide.

[Boredfrom]

KrAzY

see some folks defending this as same folks defending other troublesome games, ie, kingdom come deliverance, not surprised.

Crazy indeed

I forgot that Kingdom Come was kind of soft banned (people can post about it, but derailment is encouraged).

[benjipwns]

Nepenthe weighs in with the galaxy-brain explanation that they know but they haven't had the time to update the rules because... they've been neglecting updating the rules for so long it's a lot of work

We are aware that the rule page is outdated and needs some freshing up. This has been on the docket for me and Hecht for some time. We just have a lot of both catching up to do with regards to subsequent rules we've made since it's been updated, as well as rewriting some things that could stand to have more clarification.

Possibly making it the responsibility of solely Nepenthe and Hecht wasn't the smartest idea ever, but these are (unpaid) moderation professionals so who am I to judge.

So basically there's so many unwritten rules they need to take a some time off to write them?   

And they don't see the slightest issue with banning people for rules that haven't even been written down?   

Nep has all the time in the world to write long, racist screeds and bitch endlessly about AI and capitalism. But she and her fellow mods can't put aside a few hours--at most--to update their TOS? For fuck sake, it'll take less than a minute to add the text "Hogwarts Legacy" to the banned list of games and they can't even do that. Anyone with any sense should see what Nep said there and be insulted they'd try to pass off such blatant BS as a valid excuse for their shitty, poor moderation.

Shame there's nowhere Hecht monitors that has been pointing out that the rules need updating so they could have known this was something they could have done all along. Especially after Cerium went off to take his nap. The kind of place that also helps the moderators remember they need to hand out their sentences on bans and so on.

Shame there's not two threads like this on two forums he monitors including one he bragged about monitoring to keep members "safe" while daring them to dox him because he's either too drunk or too stupid to understand why they do this.

[benjipwns]

Some scientist or psychologist is going to discover a basis for trans-racialism in the next decade and the entire world is going to collapse.

#RachelDolezalwasright

Good way to get a hate mob sent after you and find yourself blackballed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypatia_transracialism_controversy
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/05/transracialism-article-controversy.html

[Boredfrom]

In the article—"In Defense of Transracialism", published in Hypatia's spring 2017 issue on 25 April—Tuvel argued that "since we should accept transgender individuals' decisions to change sexes, we should also accept transracial individuals' decisions to change races"

 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/page-6#post-101641633

So, are we banning every game involved with nasty controversies or just handpicking a few? Doesn't seem like a fair rule.

 

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/feb-21-2023-ap-malcolm-x’s-daughter-to-sue-cia-fbi-nypd-among-others-for-wrongful-death-of-malcolm-x.689473/

There might be a case here.

Narrator: There is not.

Even if you believe that, is probably going to be a nightmare to prove. There is probably better ways to call out the FBI and CIA behavior.

[PogiJones]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/page-5#post-101632123

I vibe checked this place since October 2017, and it has literally without a doubt gone into the shitter.

You're being infiltrated era.

 

Someone use the riotous account to deny they're being infiltrated

[Potato]

Transracialism is an interesting discussion because there are so many different variables at play.

If someone is born as a "white" kid and lives their whole life believing themselves to be 100% white and for all intents and purposes is white then discovers they have a great great grandfather who was indigenous (making them 1/16th indigenous), can they suddenly consider themselves indigenous and adopt a "new" race descriptor for themselves even though they have no cultural links and most of their DNA is white?

Is that transracialism?

Do we need to have debates about the purity of someone's blood? What percentage is the minimum to consider yourself of a particular race?

How far back is too far when considering someone to not be of a particular race?

How much of race is blood and how much is cultural?

What race categories are we even talking about?

What about someone with a white grandmother and black grandfather on one side and an Asian grandmother and Native American grandfather? Could they just change their racial identity whenever they felt like it?

Who is the arbiter of what race someone is anyway?

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/feb-21-2023-ap-malcolm-x’s-daughter-to-sue-cia-fbi-nypd-among-others-for-wrongful-death-of-malcolm-x.689473/

There might be a case here.

Narrator: There is not.

This is going to be dismissed instantly. But lots of true believers there, they're ignoring the one guy being skeptical to instead post delusional shit that's not how anything works like:

Discovery gonna be juicy af

Best post is latest post though, especially because it's in a thread about stuff involving the Nation of Islam:

Feels like the kind of thing the Kremlin would enjoy financing. A wedge op designed to further cleave the Black community from the American mainstream.

It’s also my belief that the spike in antisemitism seen amongst Black celebrities is intentional, and feels like an FSB wedge campaign. Just like Nationalism (aka isolationism) taking hold of the GOP thanks to the Russian-sponsored MAGA movement, Ice Cube, Nick Canon, Kanye and Kyrie Irving all became vocal anti-semites in a 3-4 years time span. All of them impressionable and filled with fact-free tripe. All of it conveniently designed to help the Black community further distrust government.

Admittedly, the government has done plenty to feed the distrust that Black people rightly feel. But conspiracy theories help amplify and inspire the worst in our society. It can turn a suburbanite into a terrorist. It creates violent and bizarre acts like January 6th. If you want to brake the United States, you feed the conspiracy theorists the ugliest conspiracies. If they’re highly visible, highly influential figures, even better.

When you see bizarre shit, consider where it might be coming from.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/if-youve-been-financially-donating-to-keffals-its-probably-a-good-time-to-stop-cw-for-bigotry-and-harassment.688366/

Apologies in advance this is going to be a very online thread... if she hadn't broke out into mainstream press this thread probably wouldn't need to exist, but she's a mainstreamish name, she's someone who sold us all on an image of someone with a noble purpose, so I feel it important that everyone see what she is now... and uh no mainstream news group is going to pick up on this, so I'm working with what I have

Keffals is not a good person, she's ableist, she's directing hate towards other trans people, good kind trans people, she is seemingly turning towards that post left grift, she's trying to turn her own reddit into her own private kiwifarms down to using their language.

Here we go ....

Jeez this is awful, what the hell happened? If she was always racist, why wasn't this talked about more when everything with KF was happening, I don't like that I gave money to a racist and I feel like that wasn't really being discussed for the most part

Congrats to everyone who donated that $100K for that major lawsuit to Save Trans Lives™ that never could have happened in the first place:
https://twitter.com/keffals/status/1628103002983628804

spoiler (click to show/hide)

If this is true, we must remain skeptical, I hope that Keffals succeeds at rehab. Addiction is awful. I hope the rehab also goes into more successful forms of therapy that are continued to help address some of the real underlying causes and other mental issues so that Keffals can go back to having fun on the internet by being an idiot.

[close]

[Polident Hive]

I donated to the Shenmue 3 kickstarter and even I could tell their cause was a scam.

[team filler]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/if-youve-been-financially-donating-to-keffals-its-probably-a-good-time-to-stop-cw-for-bigotry-and-harassment.688366/

Apologies in advance this is going to be a very online thread... if she hadn't broke out into mainstream press this thread probably wouldn't need to exist, but she's a mainstreamish name, she's someone who sold us all on an image of someone with a noble purpose, so I feel it important that everyone see what she is now... and uh no mainstream news group is going to pick up on this, so I'm working with what I have

Keffals is not a good person, she's ableist, she's directing hate towards other trans people, good kind trans people, she is seemingly turning towards that post left grift, she's trying to turn her own reddit into her own private kiwifarms down to using their language.

Here we go ....

Jeez this is awful, what the hell happened? If she was always racist, why wasn't this talked about more when everything with KF was happening, I don't like that I gave money to a racist and I feel like that wasn't really being discussed for the most part

Congrats to everyone who donated that $100K for that major lawsuit to Save Trans Lives™ that never could have happened in the first place:
https://twitter.com/keffals/status/1628103002983628804

spoiler (click to show/hide)

If this is true, we must remain skeptical, I hope that Keffals succeeds at rehab. Addiction is awful. I hope the rehab also goes into more successful forms of therapy that are continued to help address some of the real underlying causes and other mental issues so that Keffals can go back to having fun on the internet by being an idiot.

[close]

trans amirox 

[benjipwns]

I donated to the Shenmue 3 kickstarter and even I could tell their cause was a scam.

I tried to FACT CHECK you with this old games journalism article that was a rant about how Shenmue 3 is never going to happen and how people need to shut up about it forever or FUCK OOOOFFFFOOOOOOFFFF but I can't seem to find it at the moment and I don't remember who wrote it. So just like picture it in your head.

[Boredfrom]

Is it just impossible to make decent movies with the DC heroes? How do they all keep doing so badly all the time?

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rumor-people-walked-out-of-the-latest-aquaman-and-the-lost-kingdom-test-screenings.689002/#post-101566675

[jorma]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/if-youve-been-financially-donating-to-keffals-its-probably-a-good-time-to-stop-cw-for-bigotry-and-harassment.688366/

Apologies in advance this is going to be a very online thread... if she hadn't broke out into mainstream press this thread probably wouldn't need to exist, but she's a mainstreamish name, she's someone who sold us all on an image of someone with a noble purpose, so I feel it important that everyone see what she is now... and uh no mainstream news group is going to pick up on this, so I'm working with what I have

Keffals is not a good person, she's ableist, she's directing hate towards other trans people, good kind trans people, she is seemingly turning towards that post left grift, she's trying to turn her own reddit into her own private kiwifarms down to using their language.

Here we go ....

Jeez this is awful, what the hell happened? If she was always racist, why wasn't this talked about more when everything with KF was happening, I don't like that I gave money to a racist and I feel like that wasn't really being discussed for the most part

Congrats to everyone who donated that $100K for that major lawsuit to Save Trans Lives™ that never could have happened in the first place:
https://twitter.com/keffals/status/1628103002983628804

spoiler (click to show/hide)

If this is true, we must remain skeptical, I hope that Keffals succeeds at rehab. Addiction is awful. I hope the rehab also goes into more successful forms of therapy that are continued to help address some of the real underlying causes and other mental issues so that Keffals can go back to having fun on the internet by being an idiot.

[close]

trans amirox 

not demodded, but denutted 

[benjipwns]

Is it just impossible to make decent movies with the DC heroes? How do they all keep doing so badly all the time?

FACT CHECK: One of the greatest superhero movies ever made, Zack Snyder's Justice League, won an Academy Award and ended the height of the pandemic.

[Boredfrom]

And, obviously, the dude that made the thread is one of the biggest Marvel shills of the forum.

I fucking swear that the Cinematic Universe wars are worse than the Console Wars.

[Boredfrom]

Is it just impossible to make decent movies with the DC heroes? How do they all keep doing so badly all the time?

FACT CHECK: One of the greatest superhero movies ever made, Zack Snyder's Justice League, won an Academy Award and ended the height of the pandemic.

I was thinking in Shazam and Wonder Woman 1… oh wait, they are retroactively problematic so that’s why…

The Suicide Squad and The Batman were good!

They don’t mention it to answer that stupid post…

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

A UN vibe checker team has investigated era for the first time since 2017, partially based on an insider's claims of obtaining weapons grade empathy, but has reported back that they only found stockpiles of salt and an attempt to enrich copium

[Polident Hive]

Is it just impossible to make decent movies with the DC heroes? How do they all keep doing so badly all the time?

FACT CHECK: One of the greatest superhero movies ever made, Zack Snyder's Justice League, won an Academy Award and ended the height of the pandemic.

I was thinking in Shazam and Wonder Woman 1… oh wait, they are retroactively problematic so that’s why…

The Suicide Squad and The Batman were good!

They don’t mention it to answer that stupid post…

The two good movies cited are from straight white male director? Denigrating Aquaman, Black Adam, Birds of Prey, etc. Movies with diverse casts and crews. I dunno, sounds like some chud babble to me.

 

[Propagandhim]

https://twitter.com/ffoxargyle/status/1627825490164604929


This person has a poi...wait, benadryl??

[NekoFever]

Oh my God the j k rowling podcast is going to trigger era so much

It shows in first 2 episodes that the way the trans community targets j k Rowling now is a play by play how evangelicals Christians targeted Rowling for witchcraft in the 2000s

It’s next up in my podcast playlist and I’m looking forward to this.

I read a review that said there’s a 90s evangelical pastor saying the lightning bolt scar looks like the SS emblem, and I’ve literally seen the current nutters making the same comparison.

[NekoFever]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/page-5#post-101632123

This thread is so fucking funny.

Super cynical resetera explaining how these food cans used to be in production so it's OKAY!

The people doing that sound exactly like trumpers who explain away his evilness too.

Also, we are ignoring racist cartoons now? Yeah I know their's a fucking thread, but a lot of people are concentrating on what they can defend.

I vibe checked this place since October 2017, and it has literally without a doubt gone into the shitter.

You're being infiltrated era.

 

That community was infiltrated a decade ago last I checked.

[MMaRsu]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/page-6#post-101641432

An actual good post?

This is an incredibly reductionist argument and if you are willing to go there, then I hope you will take it to it's logical conclusion-- Everyone who participates in consumerism in our current ethically fraught society directly funds war crimes, global warming, and a multitude of other horrible moral transactions.

Blackrock is the largest hedge fund & investing firm in the world. It owns shares in 5,684 different companies. It owns stock in the SPY and DowJones directly. Blackrock is one of, if not the largest, investor in the military industry complex. Blackrock owns significant shares in many state owned Russian companies, including, surprise surprise, the very Gazprom discussed in this thread. Blackrock is also the number one investor in coal and actively campaigns against climate change and has been called by many environmental groups "the worlds biggest driver of climate change". If you've bought basically... anything, anything at all in the last 30 years, you've helped put money in Blackrock's pockets, which has then been used to further their investments in all of the evil above. So according to your own logic you've directly funded the Russian war chest, the military industry complex as a whole, and global warming.

If the above is too abstract, let's talk specifically about war crimes. As a recent thread pointed out, the house of Saud has an 8% economic stake in Nintendo. It doesn't matter that once you are a public company you can't control who buys the stock. At the end of the day, every purchase is Nintendo is putting money into the House of Saud's hands, meaning anyone who has purchased a Nintendo game is directly funding Saudi war crimes in Yemen and elsewhere. "It's as simple as that". Btw, remember Blackrock, they have a 5% share in Nintendo. Between them and the Saudi's, that's 13% of the company.

There is no such thing as ethical consumption in our current marketplace. It does not exist. I 100% advocate for people spreading information about troubling practices/companies and boycotting products they don't like, but the reality is everyone's targets will be different, depending on what moral causes they prioritize and what games they like to play. Trying to pretend your boycott is more important than someone else's is morally fraught.

You want to claim moral superiority, then take yourself off the grid and out of the system. Only when you are posting from a completely self-sustained existence where you are abstaining from the market as a whole will you have any real ethical high ground to stand on. Until then, shaming someone with a reductionist take that is simply absurd when you place it in the grander scheme of the marketplace is at best ignorance and at worst bullying someone to feed one's own morality narcissism.

To be fair to you and the many other people who have expressed similar reductionist arguments-- I get it. It's very appealing to adopt this world view. It makes things black and white, good and evil, and makes us feel we can make a difference. Russia is unequivocally that antagonist in the Ukraine-Russia conflict and it feels good to say, "by not buying this game, I didn't support Russia". It makes us feel like we can do our part when otherwise most of us are rather helpless while fellow humans suffer. Which is why again, as stated above, I support anyone who takes any personal stance against any evil in the world. I just think it's important to keep in mind the wider perspective that there is no winning move, so let each person choose their own battle and not to shame others when they have different preferences on which evils they choose to consume and which they abstain from.


In my opinion, if you want to make a strong argument about specifically skipping out on Atomic Heart, you would be better served to pointing out how the imagery and themes of the game are completely inappropriate given the current Russian war of aggression in the Ukraine. That is a far more convincing argument than highlighting their chain of inventors, as according to your own standards, almost every single person who has posted in this thread has been, are currently, and will continue to "directly fund the Russian war" (and many other wars of imperialism). The pathways that process occurs through may be slightly more abstract, but ultimately the money ends up in the same place.

[Daffy Duck]

This will be a fun read


https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-shamima-begum-loses-citizenship-challenge.689530/

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/page-5#post-101632123

This thread is so fucking funny.

Super cynical resetera explaining how these food cans used to be in production so it's OKAY!

The people doing that sound exactly like trumpers who explain away his evilness too.

Also, we are ignoring racist cartoons now? Yeah I know their's a fucking thread, but a lot of people are concentrating on what they can defend.

I vibe checked this place since October 2017, and it has literally without a doubt gone into the shitter.

You're being infiltrated era.

 

I'm so glad our mod got them for giving up the game.

[Boredfrom]

This will be a fun read


https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-shamima-begum-loses-citizenship-challenge.689530/

I watched the BBC documentary they did on it last week and I didn’t know what to think. Specially since she still lied about what she did, even now.

Didn’t you hate the BBC with passion?

[Uncle]

This will be a fun read


https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-shamima-begum-loses-citizenship-challenge.689530/

man these tiktok challenges are getting weirder and weirder