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[Propagandhim]

i'm not putting up with this
there's a human being behind the screen

[Jansen]

Not anymore

[Propagandhim]

revive me revive me!!!

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/feb-21-2023-ap-malcolm-x%E2%80%99s-daughter-to-sue-cia-fbi-nypd-among-others-for-wrongful-death-of-malcolm-x.689473/#post-101850481

For those doubting a conspiracy, there are some suspicious circumstances around the murder:

- Ghanian Intelligence picked up chatter about Malcolm being assassinated. Kwame Nkrumah informed Malcolm and offered to have him remain in Ghana but he declined.

- Malcolm had a trip to Paris and was denied entry, presumably because France did not want him hit on their turf.

- In his own autobiography Malcolm notes that he trained the Fruit of Islam, NOIs security apparatus, and knew how they moved and their inner workings. He writes that the level of harassment and surveillance he was experiencing from the NOI far exceeded their training and they surely had outside help.

- The NOI was heavily infiltrated by FBI agents/assets. One of their top guys was a suspected agent (John Ali).

- Two of Malcolm's key security guys were arrested for a bomb plot, which was hatched by the NYPD handlers of undercover Officer Ray Woods. Woods wrote in his confession "It was my assignment to draw the two men into a felonious federal crime, so that they could be arrested by the FBI and kept away from managing Malcolm X's door security on February 21, 1965," Wood wrote. "... At that time I was not aware that Malcolm X was the target." https://amsterdamnews.com/news/2021/02/25/publicly-released-letter-exposes-new-evidence-rega/

- The man giving Malcolm CPR at the scene was undercover NYPD officer Gene Roberts. He had infiltrated Malcolm's security detail and was promoted to detective after the killing.

- NYPD didn't care much for investigating the crime scene. A dance was held later that day at the ballroom.

- It was revealed in Manhattan Supreme Court that J Edgar Hoover withheld information that many of the witnesses involved in the Malcolm X assassination trial were in fact FBI Informants. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/malc...ver-fbi-informants_n_6196b3dae4b044a1cc04b3fd

- One of Malcolm's killers lived openly in Newark, never went to prison for his murder and miraculously got no prison time for a bank robbery committed after Malcolm's murder. https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/malcolm-x-assassination-mystery-article-1.2115843

I can see this argument with other civil rights leaders but with Malcolm X we have the killer still alive and he's never claimed any of this. He was in the Nation and wanted revenge on Malcolm for the things he said about their leader and has always held to this story, the likelihood of him being a CIA plant are pretty slim this far removed from the incident.

The shooter doesn't have to know the whole conspiracy. There was enough anger in the NOI to push someone to kill Malcolm, the question is who fermented such an atmosphere? One of the top NOI guys, John Ali (national secretary), was heavily suspected to be an FBI asset. There were also at least 5 undercover agents at the scene of the shooting and the guy who gave Malcolm CPR was an undercover NYPD agent.

You all realize that Farrakhan and the NOI admitted they killed him, right? Like one of the gunmen is still alive, admitted the crime, and is now out on parole. Why should taxpayers be on the hook for a killing performed by a hate organization?

You should read up on this case and as others pointed out, COINTELPRO. There are too many suspect things around the murder for it to be 5 gunmen acting alone. Black America lost one of the best men ever produced, under shady circumstances, and you want to diminish getting to the bottom of it as some money grab by his family? How is this allyship with Black America? C'mon son!

                     Conspiracy theorizing
 

[Greatness Gone]

Why are there even conspiracy theories about Malcom X's murder when Farrakhan virtually admitted he planned it in his own words?

Even if it had government backing, it doesn't really change anything about who wanted it done the most. I think everyone already knows the American government has always been up to fuckery anyway.

[Raist]

i'm not putting up with this
there's a human being behind the screen

There there.

[BIONIC]

Yep would do it again. Legitimately mean this, sex workers saved my life in college. Lonely, isolated, depressed surrounded by miserable 4chan gamergate anti-sjw engineering and CS students. It was nice having someone to talk to, connect with sexually, and impart life advice.  Honestly, alot of those women gave me the confidence I have now.
 
Regarding sex, whatever was lacking in genuine romantic connection, was well made up by pure sexual proficiency. Sometimes you gotta know, a customer is a customer.

No. I'd be too paranoid about getting scammed, being set up.

If it helps. In my experience, strip clubs are the safer option. I was paranoid at first but they're really nice about it. And you can get amazing food there too.  YMMV since the trump presidency tho.

I tried to highlight parts of this post, but it’s all beautiful.

[Uncle]

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Yeah, capitalism's fault.     So much for seizing and democratizing the means of production.  If you want to create art that has value, that value must come solely from an artificial scarcity (talent, time, expertise, experience, education, materials, the ability to even engender ones life toward creative pursuits in free countries without outside forces like war or political instability interfering) that is otherwise prohibitively imposed upon everyone because Nepenthe needs to inflate the value of her pony pictures.  It's Nepenthe's world after all, and we're all just living around her.  Since Nepenthe has already been gifted a privileged enough life where she could cultivate, of all things, art skills, or was gifted with enough talent to earn money from her work, the perceived value of her work is otherwise higher than it would be if she didn't hold others back through this prohibitive process.  You don't sound exactly like those fat cat, factory-owning, apartment buying capitalists that buy prohibitively expensive production machines and growth assets at all!

For someone who complains about fragility and privilege all day, believing the world owes you a living for your pursuit of your passion projects is the most entitled mentality ever.  Nobody is stopping her from living a gratifying life by creating art, but nobody owes you a value guarantee for that art - especially, nobody owes you value solely because it's inflated as a function of the deprivation of beneficial facilitating art tech imposed on the world.  King of Fighters 13 had 400 to 600 hand-drawn pixel frames of animation per character at at HD resolutions - it was beautiful and everyone thought we'd never see it again because it was completely economically unfeasible.  Some analysts argue this one game was a major factor for the SNK bankruptcy.  The extensive 2d animation in Street Fighter 3 similarly is a relic of the past.  But with AI, we can facilitate artists to produce beautiful games like this again.  Think of the wellspring of creativity and resurgence of beautiful art that can come from this.  Think of all the people lacking in artistic talent, but have an abundance of other talent that could be put to the forefront through an artistic tech medium.  People with profound vision and storytelling ability can have new modes of creation.   Creative work will never lose value so long as it's desired - it's part of the human experience to be wondered by beautiful things.  But you can't impose artificial restrictions on scarcity to inflate that value and then complain about capitalism, that's hypocritical as fuck.   Her selfish assumptions about what she's monetarily owed via her own personal creative fulfillment is peak whiteness.   Congratulations on your crackerdom, Nepenthe.  Someone get this honorary cracker a golf hat, some kakis, egg salad, and some cheddar flavored Sun Chips, you Friends-watching, uni-cycle riding, dill pickle-in-your-tuna-eating, wordle-retweeting, golden retriever-kissing, cracka ass bitch.

from the midjourney thread less than a year ago

Give AI 10 more years, and it will be able to assist in 2d animation to make games like Street Fighter 3 and King of Fighters 13 financially viable again.   Full circle, boys.

we're basically already here

[joeboy101]

revive me revive me!!!

Quick! Mouth-to-Mouth

 

[Propagandhim]

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Yeah, capitalism's fault.     So much for seizing and democratizing the means of production.  If you want to create art that has value, that value must come solely from an artificial scarcity (talent, time, expertise, experience, education, materials, the ability to even engender ones life toward creative pursuits in free countries without outside forces like war or political instability interfering) that is otherwise prohibitively imposed upon everyone because Nepenthe needs to inflate the value of her pony pictures.  It's Nepenthe's world after all, and we're all just living around her.  Since Nepenthe has already been gifted a privileged enough life where she could cultivate, of all things, art skills, or was gifted with enough talent to earn money from her work, the perceived value of her work is otherwise higher than it would be if she didn't hold others back through this prohibitive process.  You don't sound exactly like those fat cat, factory-owning, apartment buying capitalists that buy prohibitively expensive production machines and growth assets at all!

For someone who complains about fragility and privilege all day, believing the world owes you a living for your pursuit of your passion projects is the most entitled mentality ever.  Nobody is stopping her from living a gratifying life by creating art, but nobody owes you a value guarantee for that art - especially, nobody owes you value solely because it's inflated as a function of the deprivation of beneficial facilitating art tech imposed on the world.  King of Fighters 13 had 400 to 600 hand-drawn pixel frames of animation per character at at HD resolutions - it was beautiful and everyone thought we'd never see it again because it was completely economically unfeasible.  Some analysts argue this one game was a major factor for the SNK bankruptcy.  The extensive 2d animation in Street Fighter 3 similarly is a relic of the past.  But with AI, we can facilitate artists to produce beautiful games like this again.  Think of the wellspring of creativity and resurgence of beautiful art that can come from this.  Think of all the people lacking in artistic talent, but have an abundance of other talent that could be put to the forefront through an artistic tech medium.  People with profound vision and storytelling ability can have new modes of creation.   Creative work will never lose value so long as it's desired - it's part of the human experience to be wondered by beautiful things.  But you can't impose artificial restrictions on scarcity to inflate that value and then complain about capitalism, that's hypocritical as fuck.   Her selfish assumptions about what she's monetarily owed via her own personal creative fulfillment is peak whiteness.   Congratulations on your crackerdom, Nepenthe.  Someone get this honorary cracker a golf hat, some kakis, egg salad, and some cheddar flavored Sun Chips, you Friends-watching, uni-cycle riding, dill pickle-in-your-tuna-eating, wordle-retweeting, golden retriever-kissing, cracka ass bitch.

from the midjourney thread less than a year ago

Give AI 10 more years, and it will be able to assist in 2d animation to make games like Street Fighter 3 and King of Fighters 13 financially viable again.   Full circle, boys.

we're basically already here

Damn, I don't realize how much I repeat the same dumb shit over and over.

[PogiJones]

There there.


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I've been around you degenerates too much to visually process that gif properly.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Look guys, its very simple.

All Nepenthe is saying is that Hip Hop isn't real music, because people worked hard on those beats and instrumentals that got sampled just so some untrained know-nothing nogoodnik can type a few words and pass it off as their own music.

Because honestly, who actually cares what someone who hasn't done an entire marching routine indoors in an auditorium 1/3 the size of the fields they usually do it onlooking like fucking superheroes has to say about anything?

[Uncle]

There there.


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I've been around you degenerates too much to visually process that gif properly.

[Taco Bell Tower]

I remember uppercutting opponents so hard it sends them flying up in that game.  Good stuff.

[HaughtyFrank]

I dare someone to post this Elon Musk shitpost in the AI thread 

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1630640058507116553

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/animation-vfx-youtubers-corridor-crew-trained-an-ai-to-convert-their-live-action-footage-into-animation-what-do-you-think-of-the-results.691309/page-8#post-101942491

User Banned (Permanent): Trolling and antagonizing members over multiple posts

Because you're not someone affected by it. You're, as you've so thoroughly implied, you have a chip on your shoulder because instead of just coming to terms with your own personal lack of motivation to learn you consider artists to be elitists.

I consider the artists who want to ban this tech elitist*

   Nepenthe permabanning over her unique labor theory of value now

What's the going rate in carrots or hookup knives for Nepenthe's pony drawings?

[clothedmacuser]

How would Nepenthe feel?

https://twitter.com/elaifresh/status/1628581213366796289


I mean how would she feel if he was black and not a white, British Colonizing, Jew-visually-adjacent, Black culture thief.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-on-interview-with-phil-spencer-talks-call-of-duty-on-xbox-starfield-exclusivity-fable-mikami-and-xbox-in-japan-more.691735/page-4#post-101990032

Locking the thread because i'm going out for pizza and y'all can't behave.

Holy fuck, manchildren 

[Greatness Gone]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-on-interview-with-phil-spencer-talks-call-of-duty-on-xbox-starfield-exclusivity-fable-mikami-and-xbox-in-japan-more.691735/page-4#post-101990032

Locking the thread because i'm going out for pizza and y'all can't behave.

Holy fuck, manchildren 

CoD is going to be on PS5 & 6/Switch 2 & 3 for 10 years. What the FUCK are they even complaining about? Will they not be able to afford an Xbox or a PC by the time CoD goes exclusive in 2035?

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-on-interview-with-phil-spencer-talks-call-of-duty-on-xbox-starfield-exclusivity-fable-mikami-and-xbox-in-japan-more.691735/page-4#post-101990032

Locking the thread because i'm going out for pizza and y'all can't behave.

Holy fuck, manchildren 

CoD is going to be on PS5 & 6/Switch 2 & 3 for 10 years. What the FUCK are they even complaining about? Will they not be able to afford an Xbox or a PC by the time CoD goes exclusive in 2035?

It's very easy to tell the general age of these morons. They were young kids when the PS1 or PS2 came out and they are still infested with the stench of their fanboyism. It's pretty universal for the age bracket they're in.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dave-filoni-and-rick-famuyiwa-address-whereabouts-of-cara-dune-gina-c-o-in-the-mandalorian-3.691747/

Dave Filoni and Rick Famuyiwa address whereabouts of Cara Dune (Gina C****o) in The Mandalorian 3

She joined her master, Shen Bapiro, on the fart planet Chud

 

[Greatness Gone]

COPE
https://www.resetera.com/threads/square-enix-has-announced-that-luminous-productions-the-development-studio-behind-forspoken-will-be-merged-into-square-enix-effective-may-1-2023.691501/

That's what I meant by PR, haha. IT already had racists going after it from jump, but I sincerely don't think there was a bigger blight against the game than that  1 trailer. Completely didn't read the room, poorly represented the game, and blew up an innocuous in-game line into an easy punching bag for people to pontificate their superiority over.

clearly many in here did not actually play FORSPOKEN. I hope the time-away-from-clickbait, the upcoming patch and DLC give many of you an excuse to check out this gem for real

Shame. Forspoken is a pretty darn flawed game that still didn't deserve much if any of the hate that was thrown it's way. I'll always maintain there are far more okayish games that got a free pass (cough Spiderman cough), and that anyone who likes superhero open world sandbox games with great movement and a high skill ceiling should check it out, though maybe wait for a sale. Doesn't help that the game is different, and different in the action/open world genre is usually enough for many to just write it off wholesale.

Game will get a much kinder eye in the coming years, social media outrage from all sides really hurt the game’s perception unfairly.

A game that actually plays well can overcome *bad marketing; the internet alone can not meme an excellent game to death.

*in this instance the "bad" marketing Forspoken had accurately presented the game as the turd it is.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Always showing their misogynist sides.

[Taco Bell Tower]

COPE
https://www.resetera.com/threads/square-enix-has-announced-that-luminous-productions-the-development-studio-behind-forspoken-will-be-merged-into-square-enix-effective-may-1-2023.691501/

That's what I meant by PR, haha. IT already had racists going after it from jump, but I sincerely don't think there was a bigger blight against the game than that  1 trailer. Completely didn't read the room, poorly represented the game, and blew up an innocuous in-game line into an easy punching bag for people to pontificate their superiority over.

clearly many in here did not actually play FORSPOKEN. I hope the time-away-from-clickbait, the upcoming patch and DLC give many of you an excuse to check out this gem for real

Shame. Forspoken is a pretty darn flawed game that still didn't deserve much if any of the hate that was thrown it's way. I'll always maintain there are far more okayish games that got a free pass (cough Spiderman cough), and that anyone who likes superhero open world sandbox games with great movement and a high skill ceiling should check it out, though maybe wait for a sale. Doesn't help that the game is different, and different in the action/open world genre is usually enough for many to just write it off wholesale.

Game will get a much kinder eye in the coming years, social media outrage from all sides really hurt the game’s perception unfairly.

A game that actually plays well can overcome *bad marketing; the internet alone can not meme an excellent game to death.

*in this instance the "bad" marketing Forspoken had accurately presented the game as the turd it is.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/square-enix-has-announced-that-luminous-productions-the-development-studio-behind-forspoken-will-be-merged-into-square-enix-effective-may-1-2023.691501/#post-101955811

Hopefully we still at least get the Forspoken DLC, I guess? All I can really say is I hope people don't lose their jobs and Square takes the right lessons from Forspoken.

This is the site that made a user swear if people on that site keeps bad mouthing the game he was gonna cry and have the admins or mods close his account.  What right lessons?

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/assuming-capcom-remake-resident-evil-5-next-how-how-should-they-tackle-its-problematic-aspects.691189/#post-101911603

Well, it's easy :

- More Sheva & Josh. Show what's life was before the incident, etc.
- Remove all the tribal village enemies, replace it with something less.. wtf ?
- Show that there is modern buildings in Africa also lol
- Show that there is life in the village. Help the local population, etc.

There is a good game in Resident Evil 5, they just need to trim all that racist bullshit from it.

[Joe Molotov]

Yep would do it again. Legitimately mean this, sex workers saved my life in college. Lonely, isolated, depressed surrounded by miserable 4chan gamergate anti-sjw engineering and CS students. It was nice having someone to talk to, connect with sexually, and impart life advice.  Honestly, alot of those women gave me the confidence I have now.
 
Regarding sex, whatever was lacking in genuine romantic connection, was well made up by pure sexual proficiency. Sometimes you gotta know, a customer is a customer.

No. I'd be too paranoid about getting scammed, being set up.

If it helps. In my experience, strip clubs are the safer option. I was paranoid at first but they're really nice about it. And you can get amazing food there too.  YMMV since the trump presidency tho.

I tried to highlight parts of this post, but it’s all beautiful.

The chicken wings at my local titty bar have been garbage since Trump was elected, Biden fix this shit!

[Snoopycat_]

What is going on? Why is ree so full of absolute freaks?

Situationships are the vice of our modern day. It's basically the in-between phase between official dating and the talking stage, or a prolonged dating stage as we might say. They tend to be messy because, usually, one of the parts doesn't fully communicate or brushes things under the rug to exploit the ambiguity.

Anyways, I got into one ( and took me long enough to understand that I was in one), and it was one of the most intense relationship " break ups". It didn't last long, and my friends didn't understand why it had an impact on me. You're basically hanging on the potential of what if while feeling like you're disposable because the other person isn't really fighting for you. Furthermore, the other party is exempt from any responsibility or accountability because you're not in a real " relationship ", which might hinder the healing stage as you feel illegitimate to mourn something that wasn't.

In a perfect world, people would communicate and express their desires and boundaries, but that usually doesn't happen. Even if one of the parties is mature and communicative, if the other person breeds toxicity and ambiguity, all of that goes to waste.

Do you have any similar stories?

These people think they're progressive alllies. In reality they're creepy wankers.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/situationships-are-harder-to-get-over-than-a-relationship-break-up.691825/

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/naoki-yoshida-doesnt-want-final-fantasy-xvi-to-be-called-a-jrpg.691786/#post-101992060

Yoshida: "Black people in a medieval FF would be unrealistic"

Also Yoshida: "The term JRPG is racist!!"

[BIONIC]

Previously on ree:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-54#post-101626864

Hidden post saga from the TERF BITCH thread:-

February 8:

I was at working trying to get stuff done when my coworkers started talking about Harry Potter. One of my bosses actually threw her baby a Harry Potter Birthday party and everyone thought it was just so fucking darling and cute, and all started gushing about how much they love HP and have reread the books recently and i was basically shut down unable to work emotionally, because I'm honestly getting to the point where even mentioning words from the series infuriates me.

ANYWAYS, I realized part of why they could have such a positive conversation was probably because they were unaware of what Rowling has been doing as they aren't active on twitter and social media sites like that. I didn't want to go butting into their super happy positive conversation about their love of HP to tell them the truth, but I'm on the equity team at my job and part of my job is teaching people about social justice and equity issues in a civil and educational way.

I'm thinking of talking with my other boss about it in our private meeting tomorrow to see if there's a way i can use this moment as an educational moment to teach my coworkers about Rowling is doing and let them form their own opinions from there. I think if she's involved I can make sure it's done in a professional and civil way instead of just angrily calling Rowling a terf and horrible person like I do in online circles LOL.

I guess the main thing will be finding the best sources I can use that work in a work based setting, but I really want to do it, just to use this moment to teach things and hopefully give myself some peace of mind at work lol

Thanks everyone for your well wishes and concerns. I had concerns of my own, which is why I wanted to talk about it with my boss first. The meeting itself went very well, and she agreed that something needs to be done just because she wants the office to be a safe place for everyone. She just wasn't sure how to go about it, so she suggested reaching out to the rest of our Equity team and seeing what they suggest since some are more experienced at having hard conversations over micro-aggression. I sent an email summing up everything, and one member is already being supportive so I have some hope but still am wary anything will happen.

My entire goal with this is to educate and hope that my coworkers understand where I'm coming from. The hard part is unlike the internet, I have to see these people every day, but again if I can find a way of presenting it in a professional and civil way, maybe there's a chance. Anyways, we shall see.

Today:

Update on the situation at work. I had the meeting. Due to scheduling conflicts it almost got pushed to another month from now, but but was pretty gun ho about making it happen so we had it yesterday with just a few people. Over all the meeting itself went well but there was some discussion about it, as it happens one of my coworkers who is queer is very pro HP still and while hating Rowling with every fiber of her being still supports the series. We talked for a while about how to present the information to the office in the best way, and some debate of "do we want to get in the way of people's joy came up." A hypothetical was even put forth about "what if a trans friend of yours still finds joy in the series but doesn't know about Rowling, do you tell them?" At which point I said yes to both.

People should know what's going on, so they can be informed and decide on their own whether they want to still engage with a series.

Anyways, the conclusion was to write a email explaining the situation and once it gets approved send it to my office. That way people can choose to read and engage with the email on their own time and privately debate how they will handle it. I felt this was the best way of doing it because people who were going to ignore the topic can continue to do so, and there should be less push back on "why are we taking time away from the meeting to talk about this?" from the assholes in my office lol.

I wrote the email draft and sent it off to the team for review, so we'll see how that goes.

Additionally, my boss sat down with me to discuss it and made it clear that I am 100% valid in my opinion and stance on things, but I also can't be critical of others and need to let people do what they want. She approves of me informing others, but doesn't want any issues in the office because people disagree with each other. I also have to accept that people will probably still talk about the series in the office, and I can't tell them not to talk about it.

So basically my conclusion is that this whole thing has been a failure LOL. While I'm being told my feelings are valid and I'm allowed to educate people, I'm also told to respect "whether people continue to enjoy this series or not" but honestly this is what I should have expected.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-55#post-101814907

Update?

The saga does indeed continue

thanks to the CNN article I was able to finish the email I'm sending around my office, get it approved and sent off. The equity team helped make it way more civil and work appropriate which I unfortunately get, but at least I'm getting it done. I sent it off today. Still not entirely hopeful as basically my boss and HR are trying to have a cake situation where both myself and others are happy but at least they humored me this far :I

[close]

New:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-56#post-102003208

Feedback on the email has been minimal in so far one person has admitted to read it besides the one that knew about it already, but feedback was still positive. Another member of the equity team actually wants to share the email with the rest of our organization because they think it'd be a good learning opportunity and maybe a chance to open discussion on how we as an organization and individuals deal with media or businesses that aren't being inclusive to everyone.

HR wants to prep the different managers before the email will be sent organization wise, but still looks like not a bad outcome after all.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Over a toddler's birthday party

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Shaming Hogwarts Legacy owners 

Shaming pet owners 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/it-would-take-less-than-1-5-of-what-americans-spend-on-pets-each-year-to-end-global-starvation-and-acute-malnutrition.691852/

[Potato]

Previously on ree:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-54#post-101626864

Hidden post saga from the TERF BITCH thread:-

February 8:

I was at working trying to get stuff done when my coworkers started talking about Harry Potter. One of my bosses actually threw her baby a Harry Potter Birthday party and everyone thought it was just so fucking darling and cute, and all started gushing about how much they love HP and have reread the books recently and i was basically shut down unable to work emotionally, because I'm honestly getting to the point where even mentioning words from the series infuriates me.

ANYWAYS, I realized part of why they could have such a positive conversation was probably because they were unaware of what Rowling has been doing as they aren't active on twitter and social media sites like that. I didn't want to go butting into their super happy positive conversation about their love of HP to tell them the truth, but I'm on the equity team at my job and part of my job is teaching people about social justice and equity issues in a civil and educational way.

I'm thinking of talking with my other boss about it in our private meeting tomorrow to see if there's a way i can use this moment as an educational moment to teach my coworkers about Rowling is doing and let them form their own opinions from there. I think if she's involved I can make sure it's done in a professional and civil way instead of just angrily calling Rowling a terf and horrible person like I do in online circles LOL.

I guess the main thing will be finding the best sources I can use that work in a work based setting, but I really want to do it, just to use this moment to teach things and hopefully give myself some peace of mind at work lol

Thanks everyone for your well wishes and concerns. I had concerns of my own, which is why I wanted to talk about it with my boss first. The meeting itself went very well, and she agreed that something needs to be done just because she wants the office to be a safe place for everyone. She just wasn't sure how to go about it, so she suggested reaching out to the rest of our Equity team and seeing what they suggest since some are more experienced at having hard conversations over micro-aggression. I sent an email summing up everything, and one member is already being supportive so I have some hope but still am wary anything will happen.

My entire goal with this is to educate and hope that my coworkers understand where I'm coming from. The hard part is unlike the internet, I have to see these people every day, but again if I can find a way of presenting it in a professional and civil way, maybe there's a chance. Anyways, we shall see.

Today:

Update on the situation at work. I had the meeting. Due to scheduling conflicts it almost got pushed to another month from now, but but was pretty gun ho about making it happen so we had it yesterday with just a few people. Over all the meeting itself went well but there was some discussion about it, as it happens one of my coworkers who is queer is very pro HP still and while hating Rowling with every fiber of her being still supports the series. We talked for a while about how to present the information to the office in the best way, and some debate of "do we want to get in the way of people's joy came up." A hypothetical was even put forth about "what if a trans friend of yours still finds joy in the series but doesn't know about Rowling, do you tell them?" At which point I said yes to both.

People should know what's going on, so they can be informed and decide on their own whether they want to still engage with a series.

Anyways, the conclusion was to write a email explaining the situation and once it gets approved send it to my office. That way people can choose to read and engage with the email on their own time and privately debate how they will handle it. I felt this was the best way of doing it because people who were going to ignore the topic can continue to do so, and there should be less push back on "why are we taking time away from the meeting to talk about this?" from the assholes in my office lol.

I wrote the email draft and sent it off to the team for review, so we'll see how that goes.

Additionally, my boss sat down with me to discuss it and made it clear that I am 100% valid in my opinion and stance on things, but I also can't be critical of others and need to let people do what they want. She approves of me informing others, but doesn't want any issues in the office because people disagree with each other. I also have to accept that people will probably still talk about the series in the office, and I can't tell them not to talk about it.

So basically my conclusion is that this whole thing has been a failure LOL. While I'm being told my feelings are valid and I'm allowed to educate people, I'm also told to respect "whether people continue to enjoy this series or not" but honestly this is what I should have expected.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-55#post-101814907

Update?

The saga does indeed continue

thanks to the CNN article I was able to finish the email I'm sending around my office, get it approved and sent off. The equity team helped make it way more civil and work appropriate which I unfortunately get, but at least I'm getting it done. I sent it off today. Still not entirely hopeful as basically my boss and HR are trying to have a cake situation where both myself and others are happy but at least they humored me this far :I

 

[close]

New:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-56#post-102003208

Feedback on the email has been minimal in so far one person has admitted to read it besides the one that knew about it already, but feedback was still positive. Another member of the equity team actually wants to share the email with the rest of our organization because they think it'd be a good learning opportunity and maybe a chance to open discussion on how we as an organization and individuals deal with media or businesses that aren't being inclusive to everyone.

HR wants to prep the different managers before the email will be sent organization wise, but still looks like not a bad outcome after all.

This person is actually an inpatient at a mental hospital, the "coworkers" are just the fellow patients, the "equity team" are the nurses and the "managers" are the doctors, right?

They're just humouring him as part of his therapy.

[BIONIC]

Shaming Hogwarts Legacy owners 

Shaming pet owners 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/it-would-take-less-than-1-5-of-what-americans-spend-on-pets-each-year-to-end-global-starvation-and-acute-malnutrition.691852/

This is actually a great analysis because it gets people in the imperial core absolutely seething. Which is the point. My mom has been in Animal Rescue for over 30 years and has spent thousands upon thousands of dollars keeping cats and dogs safe and healthy while demonizing poor human beings right in her neighborhood.

The amount of money and time that imperial core citizens throw at their domestic pets compared to the time, money and political effort they show for global south issues is outrageous. The horn of Africa is being absolutely devastated by drought and imperial violence, humans and animals are dying, and it would take so little for their problems to be alleviated.

Obviously, this premise for a study is going to be controversial, but it's effective, because the human and biodiversity loss caused by wealthy imperial core lifestyles is far more important than the domestic pets that we keep to appease ourselves as we manage this capitalist dystopia.

[Potato]

Shaming Hogwarts Legacy owners 

Shaming pet owners 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/it-would-take-less-than-1-5-of-what-americans-spend-on-pets-each-year-to-end-global-starvation-and-acute-malnutrition.691852/

Really? What about after the WHO and and UN took their cut and embezzled 50% of the funds, then employed their families' businesses to charge 150% markups over regular costs for basic food items, and then none of the actual food gets to anyone because by the time the local dictators were paid off, everything was either stolen or rotted?

[Tuckers Law]

Previously on ree:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-54#post-101626864

Hidden post saga from the TERF BITCH thread:-

February 8:

I was at working trying to get stuff done when my coworkers started talking about Harry Potter. One of my bosses actually threw her baby a Harry Potter Birthday party and everyone thought it was just so fucking darling and cute, and all started gushing about how much they love HP and have reread the books recently and i was basically shut down unable to work emotionally, because I'm honestly getting to the point where even mentioning words from the series infuriates me.

ANYWAYS, I realized part of why they could have such a positive conversation was probably because they were unaware of what Rowling has been doing as they aren't active on twitter and social media sites like that. I didn't want to go butting into their super happy positive conversation about their love of HP to tell them the truth, but I'm on the equity team at my job and part of my job is teaching people about social justice and equity issues in a civil and educational way.

I'm thinking of talking with my other boss about it in our private meeting tomorrow to see if there's a way i can use this moment as an educational moment to teach my coworkers about Rowling is doing and let them form their own opinions from there. I think if she's involved I can make sure it's done in a professional and civil way instead of just angrily calling Rowling a terf and horrible person like I do in online circles LOL.

I guess the main thing will be finding the best sources I can use that work in a work based setting, but I really want to do it, just to use this moment to teach things and hopefully give myself some peace of mind at work lol

Thanks everyone for your well wishes and concerns. I had concerns of my own, which is why I wanted to talk about it with my boss first. The meeting itself went very well, and she agreed that something needs to be done just because she wants the office to be a safe place for everyone. She just wasn't sure how to go about it, so she suggested reaching out to the rest of our Equity team and seeing what they suggest since some are more experienced at having hard conversations over micro-aggression. I sent an email summing up everything, and one member is already being supportive so I have some hope but still am wary anything will happen.

My entire goal with this is to educate and hope that my coworkers understand where I'm coming from. The hard part is unlike the internet, I have to see these people every day, but again if I can find a way of presenting it in a professional and civil way, maybe there's a chance. Anyways, we shall see.

Today:

Update on the situation at work. I had the meeting. Due to scheduling conflicts it almost got pushed to another month from now, but but was pretty gun ho about making it happen so we had it yesterday with just a few people. Over all the meeting itself went well but there was some discussion about it, as it happens one of my coworkers who is queer is very pro HP still and while hating Rowling with every fiber of her being still supports the series. We talked for a while about how to present the information to the office in the best way, and some debate of "do we want to get in the way of people's joy came up." A hypothetical was even put forth about "what if a trans friend of yours still finds joy in the series but doesn't know about Rowling, do you tell them?" At which point I said yes to both.

People should know what's going on, so they can be informed and decide on their own whether they want to still engage with a series.

Anyways, the conclusion was to write a email explaining the situation and once it gets approved send it to my office. That way people can choose to read and engage with the email on their own time and privately debate how they will handle it. I felt this was the best way of doing it because people who were going to ignore the topic can continue to do so, and there should be less push back on "why are we taking time away from the meeting to talk about this?" from the assholes in my office lol.

I wrote the email draft and sent it off to the team for review, so we'll see how that goes.

Additionally, my boss sat down with me to discuss it and made it clear that I am 100% valid in my opinion and stance on things, but I also can't be critical of others and need to let people do what they want. She approves of me informing others, but doesn't want any issues in the office because people disagree with each other. I also have to accept that people will probably still talk about the series in the office, and I can't tell them not to talk about it.

So basically my conclusion is that this whole thing has been a failure LOL. While I'm being told my feelings are valid and I'm allowed to educate people, I'm also told to respect "whether people continue to enjoy this series or not" but honestly this is what I should have expected.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-55#post-101814907

Update?

The saga does indeed continue

thanks to the CNN article I was able to finish the email I'm sending around my office, get it approved and sent off. The equity team helped make it way more civil and work appropriate which I unfortunately get, but at least I'm getting it done. I sent it off today. Still not entirely hopeful as basically my boss and HR are trying to have a cake situation where both myself and others are happy but at least they humored me this far :I

 

[close]

New:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-56#post-102003208

Feedback on the email has been minimal in so far one person has admitted to read it besides the one that knew about it already, but feedback was still positive. Another member of the equity team actually wants to share the email with the rest of our organization because they think it'd be a good learning opportunity and maybe a chance to open discussion on how we as an organization and individuals deal with media or businesses that aren't being inclusive to everyone.

HR wants to prep the different managers before the email will be sent organization wise, but still looks like not a bad outcome after all.

This person is actually an inpatient at a mental hospital, the "coworkers" are just the fellow patients, the "equity team" are the nurses and the "managers" are the doctors, right?

They're just humouring him as part of his therapy.

That lunatic has no idea that the further they push the matter and the wider they get "the message" out, the more likely they are closing any doors of further mobility for themselves within that company.  Any manager or director is going to see all that and instantly think, "this person will never be a good fit for our group".

[HaughtyFrank]

This is actually a great analysis because it gets people in the imperial core absolutely seething. Which is the point. My mom has been in Animal Rescue for over 30 years and has spent thousands upon thousands of dollars keeping cats and dogs safe and healthy while demonizing poor human beings right in her neighborhood.

The amount of money and time that imperial core citizens throw at their domestic pets compared to the time, money and political effort they show for global south issues is outrageous. The horn of Africa is being absolutely devastated by drought and imperial violence, humans and animals are dying, and it would take so little for their problems to be alleviated.

Obviously, this premise for a study is going to be controversial, but it's effective, because the human and biodiversity loss caused by wealthy imperial core lifestyles is far more important than the domestic pets that we keep to appease ourselves as we manage this capitalist dystopia.

Anyone want to take a guess what term this guy discovered a day ago?

[Potato]

This is actually a great analysis because it gets people in the imperial core absolutely seething. Which is the point. My mom has been in Animal Rescue for over 30 years and has spent thousands upon thousands of dollars keeping cats and dogs safe and healthy while demonizing poor human beings right in her neighborhood.

The amount of money and time that imperial core citizens throw at their domestic pets compared to the time, money and political effort they show for global south issues is outrageous. The horn of Africa is being absolutely devastated by drought and imperial violence, humans and animals are dying, and it would take so little for their problems to be alleviated.

Obviously, this premise for a study is going to be controversial, but it's effective, because the human and biodiversity loss caused by wealthy imperial core lifestyles is far more important than the domestic pets that we keep to appease ourselves as we manage this capitalist dystopia.

Anyone want to take a guess what term this guy discovered a day ago?

No, but I guarantee you their Twatter bio has their preferred pronouns and some sort of autism/neurodiverse acronym. Most likely a trans flag and furry avatar too.

[Straight Edge]

This is actually a great analysis because it gets people in the imperial core absolutely seething. Which is the point. My mom has been in Animal Rescue for over 30 years and has spent thousands upon thousands of dollars keeping cats and dogs safe and healthy while demonizing poor human beings right in her neighborhood.

The amount of money and time that imperial core citizens throw at their domestic pets compared to the time, money and political effort they show for global south issues is outrageous. The horn of Africa is being absolutely devastated by drought and imperial violence, humans and animals are dying, and it would take so little for their problems to be alleviated.

Obviously, this premise for a study is going to be controversial, but it's effective, because the human and biodiversity loss caused by wealthy imperial core lifestyles is far more important than the domestic pets that we keep to appease ourselves as we manage this capitalist dystopia.

Anyone want to take a guess what term this guy discovered a day ago?

[Snoopycat_]

That lunatic has no idea that the further they push the matter and the wider they get "the message" out, the more likely they are closing any doors of further mobility for themselves within that company.  Any manager or director is going to see all that and instantly think, "this person will never be a good fit for our group".

Those doors closed and the red flag went up the second their boss was forced to deal with their nonsense. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if their boss isn't looking for ways to quietly get rid of them.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/naoki-yoshida-doesnt-want-final-fantasy-xvi-to-be-called-a-jrpg.691786/page-4#post-101996122

I don't understand. How is JRPG a discriminatory term? I grew up on them, they have their own style and uniqueness. This is why people started calling them JRPGs because they did stuff their own special way

Sorry to know you feel like that Yoshi but trust me, JRPGs defined RPGs in general, at least for me. I do know people used this term as some kind of mockery and disrespect but they're clueless they don't know shit

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/exercise-is-1-5-times-more-effective-than-medicines-to-manage-mental-health-according-to-new-study.691741/page-2#post-101994622

User Banned (Permanent): Received long ban for excessive hostility previously, continued hostility. Account in junior phase

Not for me unfortunately, I'd have some of my worst panic attacks in the middle of a workout because I couldn't get past the dark thoughts I was having.

Ow the edge. Are you 14?

[benjipwns]

You just admitted that it did. I didn’t said that it was overall net negative, but that IT DID create problems. Ignoring problems because the benefits “advance humanity” sounds pretty woke to me.

Name one. Remember that your thesis is that it created problems that did not exist before.

[Polident Hive]

Usually it’s the opposite. During workouts, you can’t afford to ruminate on other issues. Lift weights or spar or run or do yoga or whatever and you’ll stop worrying about how many people didn’t like ant man 3.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/feb-21-2023-ap-malcolm-x%E2%80%99s-daughter-to-sue-cia-fbi-nypd-among-others-for-wrongful-death-of-malcolm-x.689473/#post-101850481

I can see this argument with other civil rights leaders but with Malcolm X we have the killer still alive and he's never claimed any of this. He was in the Nation and wanted revenge on Malcolm for the things he said about their leader and has always held to this story, the likelihood of him being a CIA plant are pretty slim this far removed from the incident.

The shooter doesn't have to know the whole conspiracy. There was enough anger in the NOI to push someone to kill Malcolm, the question is who fermented such an atmosphere? One of the top NOI guys, John Ali (national secretary), was heavily suspected to be an FBI asset. There were also at least 5 undercover agents at the scene of the shooting and the guy who gave Malcolm CPR was an undercover NYPD agent.

You all realize that Farrakhan and the NOI admitted they killed him, right? Like one of the gunmen is still alive, admitted the crime, and is now out on parole. Why should taxpayers be on the hook for a killing performed by a hate organization?

You should read up on this case and as others pointed out, COINTELPRO. There are too many suspect things around the murder for it to be 5 gunmen acting alone. Black America lost one of the best men ever produced, under shady circumstances, and you want to diminish getting to the bottom of it as some money grab by his family? How is this allyship with Black America? C'mon son!

The problem is this isn't how conspiracy works in the law, it's based on people's actions not some nebulous unprovable "fermented atmosphere" or stochastic theory. It's a stunt by the family, it's not going to do anything to "get to the bottom" of anything.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-56#post-102003208

Another member of the equity team actually wants to share the email with the rest of our organization because they think it'd be a good learning opportunity and maybe a chance to open discussion on how we as an organization and individuals deal with media or businesses that aren't being inclusive to everyone.

Found somebody else who doesn't need a job.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-56#post-102003208

Another member of the equity team actually wants to share the email with the rest of our organization because they think it'd be a good learning opportunity and maybe a chance to open discussion on how we as an organization and individuals deal with media or businesses that aren't being inclusive to everyone.

Found somebody else who doesn't need a job.

Or someone that is just trolling and trying to egg on the office psychopath

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/scott-adams-dilbert-cartoonist-says-blacks-are-a-hate-group-and-tells-white-people-to-%E2%80%98get-the-f-k-away%E2%80%99-from-black-people-up-cancelled.690355/page-14#post-102008854

I don't think Scott Adams is a grifter, I actually true believer in what he says and that's actually the worst

See this the problem with getting high on your own supply, you get pretentious and act all haughty and act like yer against the system and yet decades go by and capitalism shifts and the office heroes of the 90's become the bosses themselves and/or even worse they become management and become obsessed with the idea of some kind group supremacy and obssessed with the almighty dollar.

in 20 years of media, he horseshoed himself into white supremacy and the thing is the soul rot was always there but we ignored it because we were enthralled by rebellion against the system and the humour of beaucracy.

His son dying of fentayl overdose and just this soul rot really fuckfried his brain. What did he even do help out the black community per se?

It speaks to rot of the soul and rot of the brain that he embraces the system he once rebelled against because society has changed for the worse in his opinion.

He really thinks he's this intriguing man with good opinions but he ain't nothing but MAGA CHUD.

He stewed in his own mediocrity and thought he was really above it all and he really thought he knew it all

but over the last 20 years or so, society has changed and people expect better out of media people.

decency is beneath this man

[ShutUp]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-the-mcu-doomed.690856/page-10#post-101935519

Look you have called me out on every thread where I mention how the conversation to some of these movies actually was and presented me as some weirdo who "holds on" to comments on the internet.

And your edit Isn't sleek.

My edit wasn't trying to be sleek, I can repeat it if you want. But do you. And let's keep recycling these same MCU threads that aren't clearly based around fan insecurity. We'll pretend it's all normal and fine.

 

You and some other posters desperately want to push that narrative. Did the MCU hurt you or something? It just comes across as so personal over some movies

Meanwhile…

*points at DC threads on Era since the sites inception*

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/scott-adams-dilbert-cartoonist-says-blacks-are-a-hate-group-and-tells-white-people-to-%E2%80%98get-the-f-k-away%E2%80%99-from-black-people-up-cancelled.690355/page-14#post-102008854

I don't think Scott Adams is a grifter, I actually true believer in what he says and that's actually the worst

See this the problem with getting high on your own supply, you get pretentious and act all haughty and act like yer against the system and yet decades go by and capitalism shifts and the office heroes of the 90's become the bosses themselves and/or even worse they become management and become obsessed with the idea of some kind group supremacy and obssessed with the almighty dollar.

in 20 years of media, he horseshoed himself into white supremacy and the thing is the soul rot was always there but we ignored it because we were enthralled by rebellion against the system and the humour of beaucracy.

His son dying of fentayl overdose and just this soul rot really fuckfried his brain. What did he even do help out the black community per se?

It speaks to rot of the soul and rot of the brain that he embraces the system he once rebelled against because society has changed for the worse in his opinion.

He really thinks he's this intriguing man with good opinions but he ain't nothing but MAGA CHUD.

He stewed in his own mediocrity and thought he was really above it all and he really thought he knew it all

but over the last 20 years or so, society has changed and people expect better out of media people.

decency is beneath this man

I want to point this out just because I keep seeing it everywhere but Adams has made borderline racist comments for decades now, he's not MAGA and he doesn't "support" Trump he just thinks Trump is as smart as he is (which seems accurate to me), he's like a moderate Democrat who supports the concept of Affirmative Action, Universal Health Care, etc. but overreacts when he learns about the details of what those things would require.

He's also an absolute loon who believes in an endless amount of psuedoscience that he thinks he understands and he has always been this way, The Dilbert Future is full of this and all the early books express his belief that affirmations are scientifically proven to work. Go look at the archives of the Dilbert Newsletter when it shifted from funny work and corporate stories to what he's done ever since, it's absolutely full of Scott's absurd theories and his constant touting of himself as the greatest thinker who has ever lived and never been wrong.

Even the strip has injections of his weird theories, although he was initially self-aware enough to mock it he explains in some of the annotated books that he seriously believes some of them. The TV series was as much Larry Charles' work as Scott Adams which is probably why it's so brilliant and has a decidedly different point of view from the strip.

edit: Also, Dilbert isn't a critique of capitalism or bureaucracy or pro-worker or anything like that, it's a critique of corporate culture and how it rewards stupidity, Adams was of the opinion that it could be fixed with humor. He used to say this explicitly before he became even more nuts.

[tiesto]

This is actually a great analysis because it gets people in the imperial core absolutely seething. Which is the point. My mom has been in Animal Rescue for over 30 years and has spent thousands upon thousands of dollars keeping cats and dogs safe and healthy while demonizing poor human beings right in her neighborhood.

The amount of money and time that imperial core citizens throw at their domestic pets compared to the time, money and political effort they show for global south issues is outrageous. The horn of Africa is being absolutely devastated by drought and imperial violence, humans and animals are dying, and it would take so little for their problems to be alleviated.

Obviously, this premise for a study is going to be controversial, but it's effective, because the human and biodiversity loss caused by wealthy imperial core lifestyles is far more important than the domestic pets that we keep to appease ourselves as we manage this capitalist dystopia.

Anyone want to take a guess what term this guy discovered a day ago?

[FUME5]

IMPERIAL CORE 

Imperial core is a Marxist term to apply a label to the global west, essentially. First world affluent nations and economies.

Problem is when that praxis is so potent and you make absolutely no attempt at working any measure of charisma into your doctrine that you not only make it impossible to engage in any form of solidarity with others you also instead cement their opinions and don't actually change minds. Essentially the kind of leftist that's worked themselves in a spot where they end up being most concerned with being the most correct person in the room. Which, thankfully, is an abundantly small vocal contingent more than anything.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/it-would-take-less-than-1-5-of-what-americans-spend-on-pets-each-year-to-end-global-starvation-and-acute-malnutrition.691852/post-102007435

[benjipwns]

Booshka's further posts in that thread are great:

My bad on that one, it's an arbitrary comparison for agitation, but "any other thing like PS5s," also tells a story. I do feel like there is a bizarre obsession with outrageous expenditures for domestic animals in imperial core societies. This is a broader issue that relates to our income, fertility rates, housing issues and where we decide to dedicate our capacity to care.

Imperial core societies have an overvaluation of domestic cats, dogs, and horses, while we treat our food like actual shit. The industrial meat industry so prevalent in imperial core societies is so inhumane to both animals and human workers. OP went for some shit and they found someone to buy into it, because I get where they are coming from.

Looking at last year's budget spreadsheet, I spent $561.03 on our two cats for the year. But yes, please do tell me how I'm an "imperial core citizen" for that.
But thanks to you, I sure do regret getting these cats from an adoption shelter. They should have been killed instead, right?
Your post sounds like you lost the plot.

Literally yes, $561 from your yearly budget spreadsheet would probably have saved at least two human lives from the global south. And yes, if we extrapolate the imperial core damage and debt owed to the global south then yes, we should envision an existence where more humans, and more wild animals mind you, live and thrive because we aren't freaking the fuck out over domestic animals in the imperial core.

Like no one from the impoverished and destitute global south is gonna be able to post on this site because it selects against it, but I will try to represent at least some of their perspectives regardless.

The whole point of the thread is to agitate for action, to be offensive and subvert our expectations. Pulling a "but you live under Capitalism" and "Venezuela iPhone" doesn't really get us anywhere.

Agitating who into action, exactly?

Because this entire thread is a chorus of people saying that we should feed the world and it should be the tax-dodging billionaires who should pay for it.

The whole point is that we all collectively understand that billionaires shouldn't exist, and they should pay for conditions to ensure that all humans can live a dignified life.

What we don't collectively understand is that the system that billionaires exist under shouldn't exist, and the reason that we can use billionaires as a scapegoat is because we most likely benefit from the systems that maintain those billionaires.

So, if wealthy imperial core citizens lose their shit about domesticated animals, then say "tax the billionaires and fix hunger," then they aren't fully advocating for a society where the majority of humanity and ecology is represented and invested in.

You can't tax your way out of capitalism and imperialism, you have to reorganize the economy for not only the vast majority of humans, but also for the ecological systems that we rely on.

"Please note that we do not accept free email addresses for registration. Most ISP, school, and professional emails are welcome."

Sorry that I introduced a new nauseating term for people to be mad about. But it's cool, folks should be mad, it's literally the core of my argument for this thread, to agitate the imperial core bubble that we house here.

Agitation without direction is not exactly an improvement. Often pissing people off just gets them to hate and ignore you, not follow your advice on what action to take.

I mean I can say degrowth/post-growth economies that restore the oppressed global south and the oppressed in the global north all I want. I can agitate for indigenous and oppressed populations to restore humanity, but it's gonna get lost in the sauce. No one gives a shit, shut up, stop being annoying and I love my dog is the sentiment.

I don't feel that most people on this forum are anti-capitalist, nor do they support degrowth economics to be honest, most of them likely don't understand or empathize with the oppressed.

The reason that I align with this threads premise is because it specifically targets this forum's demographic, of course the solution isn't for Era members to euthanize their pets. The solution is for them to understand that their ability to spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on their pets every year is anathema to a sustainable existence for humanity and ecological systems.

I am not only doing this for the discourse, but of course that is an element of it, because holy shit posting on Era is in and of itself a discourse exercise.

Reality isn't what oppression creates for you; it can be dismantled.

If oppression is dismantled, then are the benefits of domestic pet ownership for the privileged few worth maintaining?

Also, those benefits are from under an oppressive sample, so the premise is kind of bunk from the get go.

I guess I have not made myself clear, I am not using imperial core pet ownership as a potential solution to global capitalist exploitation. I am using this thread as an opportunity to get people mad, aware and thinking more deeply about their privilege. When we single out our privileged relationship with domestic animals then we have to examine everything. The money we spend to maintain domestic pet ownership is akin to a human being in the global south existing. Not directly because we take it from them and give it to our pets, but because we fail to recognize the entire system that allows us to invest in domestic animals in the imperial core.

Or we could keep our pets and fight oppression anyway.


Just a crazy idea I know. But it might just work

No we can't actually, that's the point.

The imperial core housing pets while maintaining capitalism and imperialism will not fight oppression.

God, you must be such a treat in real life.

Ask my patients and co-workers that I work with doing direct nursing care how I am in real life.

Literally nobody is mad at what you’re saying. Personally I want this to keep going because every time I refresh it’s a new angle and you’re more entertaining than you might be aware of.

Strange, because I haven't seen many actually engage with what I am saying or the populations that I am talking about. It's the invisible agreement while saying, "jeez, you are insufferable and annoying." Or the straight up shit talk like I am a trash person and a bad nurse, but that's cool, I am not gonna suffer from posts.

I mean you are insufferable and annoying. Maybe I missed the posts questioning your professional standards, which is probably out of line. Your posting habits are cringe as fuck and should be open to ridicule though

You’re intentionally packaging your message in the most fucking unlikeable way possible and getting disheartened that people won’t engage the content of the message

This entire OP is fucking unlikeable and cringe as fuck, so the premise is going to upset people. That's okay though, I don't mind, maybe a few will read, think and reconsider. If not, it's not gonna make a difference.

And don't worry, Nurse Aides never get any traction for professional standards, we are grunt workers, even fellow nurses treat us like dirt. I expect no less here.

ANNIHILATE THESE BOUGIE "ALLIES" IN THE IMPERIAL CORE

[benjipwns]

Also lmao at all the posts like this in there that think a few countries taxing their own billionaires wealth one-time a bit more to throw away on things the state wants will somehow eradicate global poverty (while capitalists are still free to create scarcity with stuff like AI):

or you could just tax the rich properly. why try to guilt people?

Yep. Putting this on normal folks ain’t it. The rich need to pull their fuckin weight

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/exercise-is-1-5-times-more-effective-than-medicines-to-manage-mental-health-according-to-new-study.691741/page-2#post-101994622

User Banned (Permanent): Received long ban for excessive hostility previously, continued hostility. Account in junior phase

Not for me unfortunately, I'd have some of my worst panic attacks in the middle of a workout because I couldn't get past the dark thoughts I was having.

Ow the edge. Are you 14?

Imagine being so thin skinned you perm someone over a lame Shadow the Hedgehog meme...

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/scott-adams-dilbert-cartoonist-says-blacks-are-a-hate-group-and-tells-white-people-to-%E2%80%98get-the-f-k-away%E2%80%99-from-black-people-up-cancelled.690355/page-14#post-102008854

I don't think Scott Adams is a grifter, I actually true believer in what he says and that's actually the worst

See this the problem with getting high on your own supply, you get pretentious and act all haughty and act like yer against the system and yet decades go by and capitalism shifts and the office heroes of the 90's become the bosses themselves and/or even worse they become management and become obsessed with the idea of some kind group supremacy and obssessed with the almighty dollar.

in 20 years of media, he horseshoed himself into white supremacy and the thing is the soul rot was always there but we ignored it because we were enthralled by rebellion against the system and the humour of beaucracy.

His son dying of fentayl overdose and just this soul rot really fuckfried his brain. What did he even do help out the black community per se?

It speaks to rot of the soul and rot of the brain that he embraces the system he once rebelled against because society has changed for the worse in his opinion.

He really thinks he's this intriguing man with good opinions but he ain't nothing but MAGA CHUD.

He stewed in his own mediocrity and thought he was really above it all and he really thought he knew it all

but over the last 20 years or so, society has changed and people expect better out of media people.

decency is beneath this man

Personally, I expect my *checks notes* newspaper cartoon man to have the morals of a saint.

[remy]

wonder if there's any notable ree mods with a history of becoming emotionally volatile over shadow the hedgehog memes

[Potato]

IMPERIAL CORE 

Imperial core is a Marxist term to apply a label to the global west, essentially. First world affluent nations and economies.

Problem is when that praxis is so potent and you make absolutely no attempt at working any measure of charisma into your doctrine that you not only make it impossible to engage in any form of solidarity with others you also instead cement their opinions and don't actually change minds. Essentially the kind of leftist that's worked themselves in a spot where they end up being most concerned with being the most correct person in the room. Which, thankfully, is an abundantly small vocal contingent more than anything.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/it-would-take-less-than-1-5-of-what-americans-spend-on-pets-each-year-to-end-global-starvation-and-acute-malnutrition.691852/post-102007435

In what fucking alternate universe is this even remotely true?

No one, outside of the true believers on the left, believes that this is a "small vocal contingent". Even the regular lefties don't believe this. Go to any space on the internet outside of the lunatic fringe like 4chan etc, or any mainstream channel like Twitter, and you will find that almost the entirety of the left is "concerned with being the most correct person in the room".

I have friends who proudly state their socialist and communist beliefs and even they think "the left" is a bunch of lunatic idiots who huff their own farts and enjoy it.

[Greatness Gone]

wonder if there's any notable ree mods with a history of becoming emotionally volatile over shadow the hedgehog memes

idk if this is a rhetorical question or not, but nepenthe posted on a sonic fan forum for a long while iirc

[Potato]

Booshka's further posts in that thread are great:

My bad on that one, it's an arbitrary comparison for agitation, but "any other thing like PS5s," also tells a story. I do feel like there is a bizarre obsession with outrageous expenditures for domestic animals in imperial core societies. This is a broader issue that relates to our income, fertility rates, housing issues and where we decide to dedicate our capacity to care.

Imperial core societies have an overvaluation of domestic cats, dogs, and horses, while we treat our food like actual shit. The industrial meat industry so prevalent in imperial core societies is so inhumane to both animals and human workers. OP went for some shit and they found someone to buy into it, because I get where they are coming from.

Looking at last year's budget spreadsheet, I spent $561.03 on our two cats for the year. But yes, please do tell me how I'm an "imperial core citizen" for that.
But thanks to you, I sure do regret getting these cats from an adoption shelter. They should have been killed instead, right?
Your post sounds like you lost the plot.

Literally yes, $561 from your yearly budget spreadsheet would probably have saved at least two human lives from the global south. And yes, if we extrapolate the imperial core damage and debt owed to the global south then yes, we should envision an existence where more humans, and more wild animals mind you, live and thrive because we aren't freaking the fuck out over domestic animals in the imperial core.

Like no one from the impoverished and destitute global south is gonna be able to post on this site because it selects against it, but I will try to represent at least some of their perspectives regardless.

The whole point of the thread is to agitate for action, to be offensive and subvert our expectations. Pulling a "but you live under Capitalism" and "Venezuela iPhone" doesn't really get us anywhere.

Agitating who into action, exactly?

Because this entire thread is a chorus of people saying that we should feed the world and it should be the tax-dodging billionaires who should pay for it.

The whole point is that we all collectively understand that billionaires shouldn't exist, and they should pay for conditions to ensure that all humans can live a dignified life.

What we don't collectively understand is that the system that billionaires exist under shouldn't exist, and the reason that we can use billionaires as a scapegoat is because we most likely benefit from the systems that maintain those billionaires.

So, if wealthy imperial core citizens lose their shit about domesticated animals, then say "tax the billionaires and fix hunger," then they aren't fully advocating for a society where the majority of humanity and ecology is represented and invested in.

You can't tax your way out of capitalism and imperialism, you have to reorganize the economy for not only the vast majority of humans, but also for the ecological systems that we rely on.

"Please note that we do not accept free email addresses for registration. Most ISP, school, and professional emails are welcome."

Sorry that I introduced a new nauseating term for people to be mad about. But it's cool, folks should be mad, it's literally the core of my argument for this thread, to agitate the imperial core bubble that we house here.

Agitation without direction is not exactly an improvement. Often pissing people off just gets them to hate and ignore you, not follow your advice on what action to take.

I mean I can say degrowth/post-growth economies that restore the oppressed global south and the oppressed in the global north all I want. I can agitate for indigenous and oppressed populations to restore humanity, but it's gonna get lost in the sauce. No one gives a shit, shut up, stop being annoying and I love my dog is the sentiment.

I don't feel that most people on this forum are anti-capitalist, nor do they support degrowth economics to be honest, most of them likely don't understand or empathize with the oppressed.

The reason that I align with this threads premise is because it specifically targets this forum's demographic, of course the solution isn't for Era members to euthanize their pets. The solution is for them to understand that their ability to spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on their pets every year is anathema to a sustainable existence for humanity and ecological systems.

I am not only doing this for the discourse, but of course that is an element of it, because holy shit posting on Era is in and of itself a discourse exercise.

Reality isn't what oppression creates for you; it can be dismantled.

If oppression is dismantled, then are the benefits of domestic pet ownership for the privileged few worth maintaining?

Also, those benefits are from under an oppressive sample, so the premise is kind of bunk from the get go.

I guess I have not made myself clear, I am not using imperial core pet ownership as a potential solution to global capitalist exploitation. I am using this thread as an opportunity to get people mad, aware and thinking more deeply about their privilege. When we single out our privileged relationship with domestic animals then we have to examine everything. The money we spend to maintain domestic pet ownership is akin to a human being in the global south existing. Not directly because we take it from them and give it to our pets, but because we fail to recognize the entire system that allows us to invest in domestic animals in the imperial core.

Or we could keep our pets and fight oppression anyway.


Just a crazy idea I know. But it might just work

No we can't actually, that's the point.

The imperial core housing pets while maintaining capitalism and imperialism will not fight oppression.

God, you must be such a treat in real life.

Ask my patients and co-workers that I work with doing direct nursing care how I am in real life.

Literally nobody is mad at what you’re saying. Personally I want this to keep going because every time I refresh it’s a new angle and you’re more entertaining than you might be aware of.

Strange, because I haven't seen many actually engage with what I am saying or the populations that I am talking about. It's the invisible agreement while saying, "jeez, you are insufferable and annoying." Or the straight up shit talk like I am a trash person and a bad nurse, but that's cool, I am not gonna suffer from posts.

I mean you are insufferable and annoying. Maybe I missed the posts questioning your professional standards, which is probably out of line. Your posting habits are cringe as fuck and should be open to ridicule though

You’re intentionally packaging your message in the most fucking unlikeable way possible and getting disheartened that people won’t engage the content of the message

This entire OP is fucking unlikeable and cringe as fuck, so the premise is going to upset people. That's okay though, I don't mind, maybe a few will read, think and reconsider. If not, it's not gonna make a difference.

And don't worry, Nurse Aides never get any traction for professional standards, we are grunt workers, even fellow nurses treat us like dirt. I expect no less here.

ANNIHILATE THESE BOUGIE "ALLIES" IN THE IMPERIAL CORE

I think booshka had to wipe one too many imperial core arseholes in his job as a nurse today.

[benjipwns]

Imperial core is a Marxist term to apply a label to the global west, essentially. First world affluent nations and economies.

Problem is when that praxis is so potent and you make absolutely no attempt at working any measure of charisma into your doctrine that you not only make it impossible to engage in any form of solidarity with others you also instead cement their opinions and don't actually change minds. Essentially the kind of leftist that's worked themselves in a spot where they end up being most concerned with being the most correct person in the room. Which, thankfully, is an abundantly small vocal contingent more than anything.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/it-would-take-less-than-1-5-of-what-americans-spend-on-pets-each-year-to-end-global-starvation-and-acute-malnutrition.691852/post-102007435

In what fucking alternate universe is this even remotely true?

No one, outside of the true believers on the left, believes that this is a "small vocal contingent". Even the regular lefties don't believe this. Go to any space on the internet outside of the lunatic fringe like 4chan etc, or any mainstream channel like Twitter, and you will find that almost the entirety of the left is "concerned with being the most correct person in the room".

I have friends who proudly state their socialist and communist beliefs and even they think "the left" is a bunch of lunatic idiots who huff their own farts and enjoy it.

I refuse to believe anyone actually thinks that the most dominant praxis in politics is not exposing your allies for being impure. Everyone seems pretty aware these days that you're not going to convert The Other Side, so you might as well try to improve your status inside your own by claiming scalps.

Also fun, this quoted poster is doing it himself, implicit in his statement is that the "Marxist"/"leftists" he's singling are not in fact more correct than he is.

Further, the quoted poster places the problem not on the theory itself but instead the lack of charisma of the person doing it. This is basically the MAGA (and Scott Adams) position, the theory in praxis should be subsumed into the persuasive charisma of the leader. (Sounds familiar actually since we're all supposed to be on our toes for dogwhistles.)

Lastly, the quoted poster does not know what praxis means so his sentence doesn't make sense. I retract this criticism upon reflection of a good faith alternative reading of the sentence with this in mind.

[Propagandhim]

Booshka's further posts in that thread are great:

My bad on that one, it's an arbitrary comparison for agitation, but "any other thing like PS5s," also tells a story. I do feel like there is a bizarre obsession with outrageous expenditures for domestic animals in imperial core societies. This is a broader issue that relates to our income, fertility rates, housing issues and where we decide to dedicate our capacity to care.

Imperial core societies have an overvaluation of domestic cats, dogs, and horses, while we treat our food like actual shit. The industrial meat industry so prevalent in imperial core societies is so inhumane to both animals and human workers. OP went for some shit and they found someone to buy into it, because I get where they are coming from.

Looking at last year's budget spreadsheet, I spent $561.03 on our two cats for the year. But yes, please do tell me how I'm an "imperial core citizen" for that.
But thanks to you, I sure do regret getting these cats from an adoption shelter. They should have been killed instead, right?
Your post sounds like you lost the plot.

Literally yes, $561 from your yearly budget spreadsheet would probably have saved at least two human lives from the global south. And yes, if we extrapolate the imperial core damage and debt owed to the global south then yes, we should envision an existence where more humans, and more wild animals mind you, live and thrive because we aren't freaking the fuck out over domestic animals in the imperial core.

Like no one from the impoverished and destitute global south is gonna be able to post on this site because it selects against it, but I will try to represent at least some of their perspectives regardless.

The whole point of the thread is to agitate for action, to be offensive and subvert our expectations. Pulling a "but you live under Capitalism" and "Venezuela iPhone" doesn't really get us anywhere.

Agitating who into action, exactly?

Because this entire thread is a chorus of people saying that we should feed the world and it should be the tax-dodging billionaires who should pay for it.

The whole point is that we all collectively understand that billionaires shouldn't exist, and they should pay for conditions to ensure that all humans can live a dignified life.

What we don't collectively understand is that the system that billionaires exist under shouldn't exist, and the reason that we can use billionaires as a scapegoat is because we most likely benefit from the systems that maintain those billionaires.

So, if wealthy imperial core citizens lose their shit about domesticated animals, then say "tax the billionaires and fix hunger," then they aren't fully advocating for a society where the majority of humanity and ecology is represented and invested in.

You can't tax your way out of capitalism and imperialism, you have to reorganize the economy for not only the vast majority of humans, but also for the ecological systems that we rely on.

"Please note that we do not accept free email addresses for registration. Most ISP, school, and professional emails are welcome."

Sorry that I introduced a new nauseating term for people to be mad about. But it's cool, folks should be mad, it's literally the core of my argument for this thread, to agitate the imperial core bubble that we house here.

Agitation without direction is not exactly an improvement. Often pissing people off just gets them to hate and ignore you, not follow your advice on what action to take.

I mean I can say degrowth/post-growth economies that restore the oppressed global south and the oppressed in the global north all I want. I can agitate for indigenous and oppressed populations to restore humanity, but it's gonna get lost in the sauce. No one gives a shit, shut up, stop being annoying and I love my dog is the sentiment.

I don't feel that most people on this forum are anti-capitalist, nor do they support degrowth economics to be honest, most of them likely don't understand or empathize with the oppressed.

The reason that I align with this threads premise is because it specifically targets this forum's demographic, of course the solution isn't for Era members to euthanize their pets. The solution is for them to understand that their ability to spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on their pets every year is anathema to a sustainable existence for humanity and ecological systems.

I am not only doing this for the discourse, but of course that is an element of it, because holy shit posting on Era is in and of itself a discourse exercise.

Reality isn't what oppression creates for you; it can be dismantled.

If oppression is dismantled, then are the benefits of domestic pet ownership for the privileged few worth maintaining?

Also, those benefits are from under an oppressive sample, so the premise is kind of bunk from the get go.

I guess I have not made myself clear, I am not using imperial core pet ownership as a potential solution to global capitalist exploitation. I am using this thread as an opportunity to get people mad, aware and thinking more deeply about their privilege. When we single out our privileged relationship with domestic animals then we have to examine everything. The money we spend to maintain domestic pet ownership is akin to a human being in the global south existing. Not directly because we take it from them and give it to our pets, but because we fail to recognize the entire system that allows us to invest in domestic animals in the imperial core.

Or we could keep our pets and fight oppression anyway.


Just a crazy idea I know. But it might just work

No we can't actually, that's the point.

The imperial core housing pets while maintaining capitalism and imperialism will not fight oppression.

God, you must be such a treat in real life.

Ask my patients and co-workers that I work with doing direct nursing care how I am in real life.

Literally nobody is mad at what you’re saying. Personally I want this to keep going because every time I refresh it’s a new angle and you’re more entertaining than you might be aware of.

Strange, because I haven't seen many actually engage with what I am saying or the populations that I am talking about. It's the invisible agreement while saying, "jeez, you are insufferable and annoying." Or the straight up shit talk like I am a trash person and a bad nurse, but that's cool, I am not gonna suffer from posts.

I mean you are insufferable and annoying. Maybe I missed the posts questioning your professional standards, which is probably out of line. Your posting habits are cringe as fuck and should be open to ridicule though

You’re intentionally packaging your message in the most fucking unlikeable way possible and getting disheartened that people won’t engage the content of the message

This entire OP is fucking unlikeable and cringe as fuck, so the premise is going to upset people. That's okay though, I don't mind, maybe a few will read, think and reconsider. If not, it's not gonna make a difference.

And don't worry, Nurse Aides never get any traction for professional standards, we are grunt workers, even fellow nurses treat us like dirt. I expect no less here.

ANNIHILATE THESE BOUGIE "ALLIES" IN THE IMPERIAL CORE

This is amazing.