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[marrec]

Meanwhile, in constructive, the calls for blood re:the Arnie thread have started:

I wanna say it's just an Era issue, but unfortunately it is also very much a reflection of how many cis people view trans issues in general. Support is superficial, and surface level. A feel good term to make your transactional morality balance itself out, and nothing more.

However, even just in the first page of that thread we see multiple trans people talked down to or dismissed by other members of the community. It truly speaks volumes to how little our community gives a shit about trans people when things like that continuously happen. Reading the thread after the fact is downright infuriating because of this. I'm not going to name specific posts or examples out of respect for the staff at Era, but I'm sure they can probably see it plain as day in the thread. Also, it's not like Arnold Schwarzenegger of ALL FUCKING PEOPLE has exactly a great track record when it comes to the topic of transgender people and trans rights. The complaints of trans people towards him that thread were valid.

Seriously, there are some real awful opinions in that thread. I'd urge staff to have their trans members go through it with a fine tooth comb.

Silly staff thought locking the thread would save them, but no.

So, I took their advice and went through the first page with a fine toothed comb. They claim that in the first page multiple trans people are talked down too or dismissed, but that simply didn't happen in the context of their "transness". Any dismissal was in the context of poisoning the well of Arnolds message by tying him to his republican party affiliation. "Trans" is not mentioned in the first 100 posts, and the only reference to any queer issues are in Arnold signing Prop 8 into law, which is later clarified that he was publicly against the proposition and had no recourse as governor but to sign.

So, is Trans era stating that they cannot be dismissed or talked down to on ANY issue? Like if they don't like a video game, and someone else says "I dismiss your opinion because I like the video game", is that grounds for banning based on "dismissing concerns"? In what context is dismissal good or bad when contextualized with their sexual identity? Because there are a lot of trans people who dismiss and talk down to posters in that thread as well... in fact it seems like the only outright hostility in that thread is coming directly from self-identified trans people.

Trans people were basically being shut down throughout with being told they are "miserable" and angry and need to shut up, by of course cis men.

mmmmm


This is the shit chappelle and rock talk about that hurts them so bad.

Your privileges doesn't translate.

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translate lol

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You know I hate agreeing with you, and I hate even more when I agree with Chapelle, but ya it's a real issue with the trans community.

[HaughtyFrank]

So, I took their advice and went through the first page with a fine toothed comb.

Like a fool I just did the same thing. 

You summed it up better than I could have

[Propagandhim]

https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/1633475508565573632

i've been side-eyeing this rich white cishet Republican for decades.  That last name?  Not slick.

[marrec]

So, I took their advice and went through the first page with a fine toothed comb.

Like a fool I just did the same thing. 

You summed it up better than I could have

We're gluttons for punishment.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I feel dirty with marrec co opting my opinions

[marrec]

Then go back to having shit opinions!

 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

You've taken that mantle for life, sis.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Sorry, cis.

[Greatness Gone]

Maybe an irrational thought, but I hate how they refer to mods as "staff" on Ree. It's a term that feels so pompous and self-important when contrasted with the fact that mods on there are fucking distinguished mentally-challenged and don't do shit.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Plus staff gets paid.

[nobody of note]

Maybe an irrational thought, but I hate how they refer to mods as "staff" on Ree. It's a term that feels so pompous and self-important when contrasted with the fact that mods on there are fucking distinguished mentally-challenged and don't do shit.

It's to cover mods + admins + mod captains (are those even still a thing?) + whatever B-Dubs is + whatever else weird-ass ranks they want to add.

I know I've seen Nepenthe correct people for referring to her as a mod, so clearly terminology and establishing dominance matters.

[marrec]

The first time "trans" is mentioned is when Vonocourt says:

Damn, got me being a trans woman, I should really think about how the cis white Christian man feels.

In response to someone who didn't quote or mention anyone specific. They then respond to ANOTHER poster who didn't quote or mention them with:

Yo stop calling me a liberal while dancing around responding to me directly.

Like if there's a actual middle space, than skids like you with no skin in the game are moderating it and I want no part of it.

I have a theory about toxic masculinity, don't worry this relates, contemporary toxic masculinity requires that the participant crave judgement. Passive dismissal or neutral observation is seen as an attack because the lack of positive judgement is seen as negative judgement. If you casually observe that a man has tangentially interacted with femininity, they may react in a way that forces you to judge their actions, becoming aggressive as a defense mechanism against a lack of judgement.

Simplified Example:

Me: "Hey I noticed you played Dream Daddy, what'd you think?"

TM Participant: "Why are you asking? What do you think I'm gay?"

Trans women, despite transitioning, were still immersed in toxic masculinity growing up. So the defensive posture of aggressively seeking out judgement can still be present, leading to trans women like Vonocourt. One does not shed the negative effects of toxic masculinity simply by acting like a women and going through a surgical transition and calling yourself by a different name and gender.

[Uncle]

This is what they've deemed is "trolling"

"I haven't played it yet but that's an interesting development. Between the trans-inclusive character creator and a trans-coded major NPC, it looks like Avalanche Software is doing some good things towards making transgender individuals feel welcome at Hogwarts. I think that's great."

now imagine you framed it the exact opposite way:

"I haven't played it yet but that's an alarming development. Between the trans-inclusive character creator and a trans-coded major NPC, it looks like Avalanche Software is doing their best to imply transgender individuals feel welcome at Hogwarts. I think that's disgusting."


trolling?

[Yulwei]

The first time "trans" is mentioned is when Vonocourt says:

Damn, got me being a trans woman, I should really think about how the cis white Christian man feels.

In response to someone who didn't quote or mention anyone specific. They then respond to ANOTHER poster who didn't quote or mention them with:

Yo stop calling me a liberal while dancing around responding to me directly.

Like if there's a actual middle space, than skids like you with no skin in the game are moderating it and I want no part of it.

I have a theory about toxic masculinity, don't worry this relates, contemporary toxic masculinity requires that the participant crave judgement. Passive dismissal or neutral observation is seen as an attack because the lack of positive judgement is seen as negative judgement. If you casually observe that a man has tangentially interacted with femininity, they may react in a way that forces you to judge their actions, becoming aggressive as a defense mechanism against a lack of judgement.

Simplified Example:

Me: "Hey I noticed you played Dream Daddy, what'd you think?"

TM Participant: "Why are you asking? What do you think I'm gay?"

Trans women, despite transitioning, were still immersed in toxic masculinity growing up. So the defensive posture of aggressively seeking out judgement can still be present, leading to trans women like Vonocourt. One does not shed the negative effects of toxic masculinity simply by acting like a women and going through a surgical transition and calling yourself by a different name and gender.

Idk but as I said before it's definitely not something specific to era. They act the same way over on something awful. the same exact completely unhinged and mentally ill posts. the same super aggro posting style and running to the mods to defend them, etc.

[Greatness Gone]

it's crazy how they use the term "cis" like a slur and expect biological men and women to just accept that label.

[Crumb]

The war on The Beast continues...
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mr-beasts-chocolate-partnered-with-the-rainforest-alliance-the-same-partner-as-hersheys-both-currently-facing-lawsuit-related-to-child-labor.694624/

[Cauliflower Of Love]

The war on The Beast continues...
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mr-beasts-chocolate-partnered-with-the-rainforest-alliance-the-same-partner-as-hersheys-both-currently-facing-lawsuit-related-to-child-labor.694624/

nep nep has posted the same sentinent three different ways (as far as Ive scrolled)  no one is biting.



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[jorma]

The first time "trans" is mentioned is when Vonocourt says:

Damn, got me being a trans woman, I should really think about how the cis white Christian man feels.

In response to someone who didn't quote or mention anyone specific. They then respond to ANOTHER poster who didn't quote or mention them with:

Yo stop calling me a liberal while dancing around responding to me directly.

Like if there's a actual middle space, than skids like you with no skin in the game are moderating it and I want no part of it.

I have a theory about toxic masculinity, don't worry this relates, contemporary toxic masculinity requires that the participant crave judgement. Passive dismissal or neutral observation is seen as an attack because the lack of positive judgement is seen as negative judgement. If you casually observe that a man has tangentially interacted with femininity, they may react in a way that forces you to judge their actions, becoming aggressive as a defense mechanism against a lack of judgement.

Simplified Example:

Me: "Hey I noticed you played Dream Daddy, what'd you think?"

TM Participant: "Why are you asking? What do you think I'm gay?"

Trans women, despite transitioning, were still immersed in toxic masculinity growing up. So the defensive posture of aggressively seeking out judgement can still be present, leading to trans women like Vonocourt. One does not shed the negative effects of toxic masculinity simply by acting like a women and going through a surgical transition and calling yourself by a different name and gender.

this might be an american thing because where i grew up, toxic masculinity is when you and the boys chants "show your tiddies for the lads" to random women, and any dude spazzing out over a neutral statement would be asked if they are on their period. 

[Uncle]

So, I took their advice and went through the first page with a fine toothed comb.

Like a fool I just did the same thing. 

You summed it up better than I could have

I accidentally used a broad toothed comb and ain't found shit 

[HaughtyFrank]

The first time "trans" is mentioned is when Vonocourt says:

Damn, got me being a trans woman, I should really think about how the cis white Christian man feels.

In response to someone who didn't quote or mention anyone specific. They then respond to ANOTHER poster who didn't quote or mention them with:

Yo stop calling me a liberal while dancing around responding to me directly.

Like if there's a actual middle space, than skids like you with no skin in the game are moderating it and I want no part of it.

I have a theory about toxic masculinity, don't worry this relates, contemporary toxic masculinity requires that the participant crave judgement. Passive dismissal or neutral observation is seen as an attack because the lack of positive judgement is seen as negative judgement. If you casually observe that a man has tangentially interacted with femininity, they may react in a way that forces you to judge their actions, becoming aggressive as a defense mechanism against a lack of judgement.

Simplified Example:

Me: "Hey I noticed you played Dream Daddy, what'd you think?"

TM Participant: "Why are you asking? What do you think I'm gay?"

Trans women, despite transitioning, were still immersed in toxic masculinity growing up. So the defensive posture of aggressively seeking out judgement can still be present, leading to trans women like Vonocourt. One does not shed the negative effects of toxic masculinity simply by acting like a women and going through a surgical transition and calling yourself by a different name and gender.

It would make sense since after all one of the arguments regarding toxic masculinity is that it is not an inherent sex trait but related to the upbringing of boys. In a similar way I've wondered if this is perhaps why so many trans women are quite outspoken and direct whereas trans men seem to be quieter and more in the background.

Though I'm pretty sure that even talking about how trans women had a male upbringing is already enough to get you labeled a bigot, at least in the terminally online places

[Averon]

Someone calling out Sony shill LoudNinja's performative and selective outrage:

Ignorance is no excuse for shit like this sick of the handwaving.

my guy you literally stan a major company who has been a part of child labor issues for a while. are you truly tired of the handwaving or only because this particular product and person are someone you dont care about

You really trying to make this about me good lord.

[Propagandhim]

my guy you literally stan a major company who has been a part of child labor issues for a while. are you truly tired of the handwaving or only because this particular product and person are someone you dont care about

Where's that damn Boy in the well comic when you need it.  Someone is calling me a hypocrite and they're right!  Someone bring me the magic argument-winning picture now!!

[zomgee]

That's the exact kind of racism/sexism/transphobia slap-on-the-wrist bans I talked about before. Why allow someone you deemed to be engaging in racist rhetoric back into your community after only a month? You think they will no longer be racist on April 6th, 2023?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

The first time "trans" is mentioned is when Vonocourt says:

Damn, got me being a trans woman, I should really think about how the cis white Christian man feels.

In response to someone who didn't quote or mention anyone specific. They then respond to ANOTHER poster who didn't quote or mention them with:

Yo stop calling me a liberal while dancing around responding to me directly.

Like if there's a actual middle space, than skids like you with no skin in the game are moderating it and I want no part of it.

I have a theory about toxic masculinity, don't worry this relates, contemporary toxic masculinity requires that the participant crave judgement. Passive dismissal or neutral observation is seen as an attack because the lack of positive judgement is seen as negative judgement. If you casually observe that a man has tangentially interacted with femininity, they may react in a way that forces you to judge their actions, becoming aggressive as a defense mechanism against a lack of judgement.

Simplified Example:

Me: "Hey I noticed you played Dream Daddy, what'd you think?"

TM Participant: "Why are you asking? What do you think I'm gay?"

Trans women, despite transitioning, were still immersed in toxic masculinity growing up. So the defensive posture of aggressively seeking out judgement can still be present, leading to trans women like Vonocourt. One does not shed the negative effects of toxic masculinity simply by acting like a women and going through a surgical transition and calling yourself by a different name and gender.

It would make sense since after all one of the arguments regarding toxic masculinity is that it is not an inherent sex trait but related to the upbringing of boys. In a similar way I've wondered if this is perhaps why so many trans women are quite outspoken and direct whereas trans men seem to be quieter and more in the background.

Though I'm pretty sure that even talking about how trans women had a male upbringing is already enough to get you labeled a bigot, at least in the terminally online places

It's an interesting facet of gender that I've recently been looking at.

I've dropped the idea of traditional masculine and feminine and started classifying people as abrasive and docile, as you mention.

Transition doesn't necessarily change your personality unless you attribute your whole persona to what you present yourself as and if so, yikes.

[Greatness Gone]

I have a theory about toxic masculinity, don't worry this relates, contemporary toxic masculinity requires that the participant crave judgement. Passive dismissal or neutral observation is seen as an attack because the lack of positive judgement is seen as negative judgement. If you casually observe that a man has tangentially interacted with femininity, they may react in a way that forces you to judge their actions, becoming aggressive as a defense mechanism against a lack of judgement.

Simplified Example:

Me: "Hey I noticed you played Dream Daddy, what'd you think?"

TM Participant: "Why are you asking? What do you think I'm gay?"

Trans women, despite transitioning, were still immersed in toxic masculinity growing up. So the defensive posture of aggressively seeking out judgement can still be present, leading to trans women like Vonocourt. One does not shed the negative effects of toxic masculinity simply by acting like a women and going through a surgical transition and calling yourself by a different name and gender.

Is it any surprise biological women have reservations about sharing communal spaces with transwomen? a formative part of being a woman is being SOCIALIZED like one. Why would you want to deal with male aggression in a "female" form.

[nobody of note]

It would make sense since after all one of the arguments regarding toxic masculinity is that it is not an inherent sex trait but related to the upbringing of boys. In a similar way I've wondered if this is perhaps why so many trans women are quite outspoken and direct whereas trans men seem to be quieter and more in the background.

Though I'm pretty sure that even talking about how trans women had a male upbringing is already enough to get you labeled a bigot, at least in the terminally online places

I have often wondered how different being seen as 'emotional' is for a trans woman vs a cis woman--if you're brought up as a boy, emotions are inherently disregarded as a womanly weakness and you're supposed to hide them because you're tough and not a girl. Transitioning to female presenting then would probably be freeing--society gives you a pass for having emotions, finally.

But if you're brought up as a girl, you're used to your emotions being expected and constantly used to undercut your validity--Getting slapped with the "emotional" label in the workplace is basically a free pass for everyone to ignore anything you have to say, so you have to get used to stamping down both the weak womenly emotions of sad/upset, but also the more masculine anger-based emotions that from a male employee don't necessarily raise an eyebrow. A wider range of emotions are expected and acceptable for your gender, but you can openly express basically none of them if you want to be taken seriously.

It's a conversation I'd really like to have, but I feel like would just cause a lot of upset in a space like Era.

[Propagandhim]

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Pl...please...*gasp* need...b..boy in the well comic...please....i'm...dying....give..me..please god...magic..comic..picture...now...

[Joe Molotov]

The war on The Beast continues...
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mr-beasts-chocolate-partnered-with-the-rainforest-alliance-the-same-partner-as-hersheys-both-currently-facing-lawsuit-related-to-child-labor.694624/

This is fake news, American chocolate is just made out of sugar and milk.

[Daffy Duck]

it's crazy how they use the term "cis" like a slur and expect biological men and women to just accept that label.

Because to them, it is a slur

[Daffy Duck]

The first time "trans" is mentioned is when Vonocourt says:

Damn, got me being a trans woman, I should really think about how the cis white Christian man feels.

In response to someone who didn't quote or mention anyone specific. They then respond to ANOTHER poster who didn't quote or mention them with:

Yo stop calling me a liberal while dancing around responding to me directly.

Like if there's a actual middle space, than skids like you with no skin in the game are moderating it and I want no part of it.

I have a theory about toxic masculinity, don't worry this relates, contemporary toxic masculinity requires that the participant crave judgement. Passive dismissal or neutral observation is seen as an attack because the lack of positive judgement is seen as negative judgement. If you casually observe that a man has tangentially interacted with femininity, they may react in a way that forces you to judge their actions, becoming aggressive as a defense mechanism against a lack of judgement.

Simplified Example:

Me: "Hey I noticed you played Dream Daddy, what'd you think?"

TM Participant: "Why are you asking? What do you think I'm gay?"

Trans women, despite transitioning, were still immersed in toxic masculinity growing up. So the defensive posture of aggressively seeking out judgement can still be present, leading to trans women like Vonocourt. One does not shed the negative effects of toxic masculinity simply by acting like a women and going through a surgical transition and calling yourself by a different name and gender.

It would make sense since after all one of the arguments regarding toxic masculinity is that it is not an inherent sex trait but related to the upbringing of boys. In a similar way I've wondered if this is perhaps why so many trans women are quite outspoken and direct whereas trans men seem to be quieter and more in the background.

Though I'm pretty sure that even talking about how trans women had a male upbringing is already enough to get you labeled a bigot, at least in the terminally online places

It's an interesting facet of gender that I've recently been looking at.

I've dropped the idea of traditional masculine and feminine and started classifying people as abrasive and docile, as you mention.

Transition doesn't necessarily change your personality unless you attribute your whole persona to what you present yourself as and if so, yikes.

Agreed, if your a miserable cunt and become a different gender, you’re still a miserable cunt and shock horror, I’ll treat you as such if you’re that way because fuck you.

[Uncle]

my guy you literally stan a major company who has been a part of child labor issues for a while. are you truly tired of the handwaving or only because this particular product and person are someone you dont care about

Where's that damn Boy in the well comic when you need it.  Someone is calling me a hypocrite and they're right!  Someone bring me the magic argument-winning picture now!!

[Uncle]

It's an interesting facet of gender that I've recently been looking at.

I've dropped the idea of traditional masculine and feminine and started classifying people as abrasive and docile, as you mention.

which one am I

[Propagandhim]

I've dropped the idea of traditional masculine and feminine and started classifying people as either Marlon Wayans or Shawn Wayans.   

[railGUN]

New news, new thread.

Except the news ins't new and isn't about the company in the thread. 

[Pissy F Benny]

ZeoVGM
Banned
He/They

Sadly though…

User Banned (3 Days): Misrepresenting Fellow Member's Arguments; History of Hostility

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-rock-stand-up-special-to-be-netflixs-first-live-event.653085/post-102226345

Not even a week, but protected members aren’t a thing. 

Why is Zero even protected, he's a straight white male who's only disability is being a fucking dork moron??

[Cauliflower Of Love]

It's an interesting facet of gender that I've recently been looking at.

I've dropped the idea of traditional masculine and feminine and started classifying people as abrasive and docile, as you mention.

which one am I

Abrasively feminine

[BIONIC]

https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/1633475508565573632

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gsd-european-sales-february-2023-ps5-1-nsw-2-xbs-3-ps5-sales-up-5x-in-europe-doubling-the-sales-of-switch-fifa23-2-gta5-3.694030/page-2#post-102311344

User Banned (Permanently): Ignoring Staff Post to Discuss Banned Game; Prior Ban for the Same

The game was everywhere in the UK, and this is just a "small" example:
(Image removed from quote.)

Previous ban:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-41#post-100783135

User Banned (1 Month): Ignoring staff post to discuss banned game, trolling in a sensitive thread

Fwiw - I got the game early and also one major NPC in the game is trans. I was quite happy to see this.

I haven't played it yet but that's an interesting development. Between the trans-inclusive character creator and a trans-coded major NPC, it looks like Avalanche Software is doing some good things towards making transgender individuals feel welcome at Hogwarts. I think that's great.

Thank god they caught her. Mentioning the forbidden wizard game twice is definitely worse than asking for politicans to be shotgunned to death

This is what they've deemed is "trolling"

"I haven't played it yet but that's an interesting development. Between the trans-inclusive character creator and a trans-coded major NPC, it looks like Avalanche Software is doing some good things towards making transgender individuals feel welcome at Hogwarts. I think that's great."

Unlike a certain Resetera administrator who definitely HAS played Hogwarts Legacy.

[marrec]

It would make sense since after all one of the arguments regarding toxic masculinity is that it is not an inherent sex trait but related to the upbringing of boys. In a similar way I've wondered if this is perhaps why so many trans women are quite outspoken and direct whereas trans men seem to be quieter and more in the background.

Though I'm pretty sure that even talking about how trans women had a male upbringing is already enough to get you labeled a bigot, at least in the terminally online places

I have often wondered how different being seen as 'emotional' is for a trans woman vs a cis woman--if you're brought up as a boy, emotions are inherently disregarded as a womanly weakness and you're supposed to hide them because you're tough and not a girl. Transitioning to female presenting then would probably be freeing--society gives you a pass for having emotions, finally.

But if you're brought up as a girl, you're used to your emotions being expected and constantly used to undercut your validity--Getting slapped with the "emotional" label in the workplace is basically a free pass for everyone to ignore anything you have to say, so you have to get used to stamping down both the weak womenly emotions of sad/upset, but also the more masculine anger-based emotions that from a male employee don't necessarily raise an eyebrow. A wider range of emotions are expected and acceptable for your gender, but you can openly express basically none of them if you want to be taken seriously.

It's a conversation I'd really like to have, but I feel like would just cause a lot of upset in a space like Era.

The dynamics of social expectation and gender transition are often an afterthought. Trans people will often cite how they "feel" like they are a different gender than they present biologically, giving examples that are all rooted in social expectation "I liked dresses" or "I was always a tomboy", but those feelings are only incongruous with gender identity when you view gender through established constructs. Dresses aren't masculine or feminine, they are clothes. Activities aren't masculine or feminine, they are actions.

That's not to dismiss these feelings as false or superfluous, but if the root of these internal conflicts are generated entirely by a fluid social viewpoint, then your outward presentation as a man or woman is less about the resolving an internal conflict and more about conforming to how you see yourself socially. Which is to say, you aren't actually resolving any conflict at all and are just masking it behind behavioral expectation and profile. The unspoken rules of social interaction you've learned and adapted will still be present regardless.

Edit:

To put it more simply. Trans women aren’t getting surgery for saggy boobs. They are presenting as their social ideal of a woman.

[remy]

Plus staff gets paid.

Yah really it should be volunteers.

that would really put things in perspective tbh

[Potato]

Are they all a bunch of trans bitches over there or all gay or some shit?

The fuck is wrong with them. Not everything has to be about trans people. Holy fucking shit.

What a bunch of distinguished mentally-challenged fellows

User banned (permanent): Dismissing concerns of the mentally ill.

[Averon]

ZeoVGM
Banned
He/They

Sadly though…

User Banned (3 Days): Misrepresenting Fellow Member's Arguments; History of Hostility

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-rock-stand-up-special-to-be-netflixs-first-live-event.653085/post-102226345

Not even a week, but protected members aren’t a thing. 

Why is Zero even protected, he's a straight white male who's only disability is being a fucking dork moron??

Useful idiot? Though, that begs the question what he's useful for.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Ok I just came across this while trying to figure out what the new army logo is about:

The Army is also rolling out two short films as part of the campaign, titled “Overcoming Obstacles” and “Pushing Tomorrow,” both of which include “Creed III” actor Jonathan Majors.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3889666-army-unveils-rebranding-campaign-amid-recruiting-challenges/


nepnep is going to lose their shit. someone PLEASE post this

[Averon]

Meanwhile, in constructive, the calls for blood re:the Arnie thread have started:

That Schwarzenegger thread is the perfect example of hypocrisy from a lot of people here.  Trans people were basically being shut down throughout with being told they are "miserable" and angry and need to shut up, by of course cis men.

Seriously, it was an embarrassment of a thread.

The absolute audacity to witness what's happening every single day in the USA to trans and GNC people and demand civility because a rich white man made some vague words of kindness while his political party signs the death warrants of the Queer community's most vulnerable.

It's especially the quotes of "some of you people are miserable", or variations of it.  It feels teetering on being a dogwhistle.  I wonder why people that are on the verge of being erased aren't happy.

I wanna say it's just an Era issue, but unfortunately it is also very much a reflection of how many cis people view trans issues in general. Support is superficial, and surface level. A feel good term to make your transactional morality balance itself out, and nothing more.

However, even just in the first page of that thread we see multiple trans people talked down to or dismissed by other members of the community. It truly speaks volumes to how little our community gives a shit about trans people when things like that continuously happen. Reading the thread after the fact is downright infuriating because of this. I'm not going to name specific posts or examples out of respect for the staff at Era, but I'm sure they can probably see it plain as day in the thread. Also, it's not like Arnold Schwarzenegger of ALL FUCKING PEOPLE has exactly a great track record when it comes to the topic of transgender people and trans rights. The complaints of trans people towards him that thread were valid.

Seriously, there are some real awful opinions in that thread. I'd urge staff to have their trans members go through it with a fine tooth comb.

Silly staff thought locking the thread would save them, but no.

TransERA, though this applies to terminally online people in general, are egomaniacs that thinks everything revolves around them and their feelings. They say they just want to be treated fairly and equally, but that isn't how they act when they are. They most definitely want and demand preferential treatment. And if they don't get it, they accuse you of "genociding" them and/or being a bigot.

[Greatness Gone]

according to the ree lorebook, the mods have even acknowledged the fact that zerovagina is a ban-baiter in one of his past ban reasons. banning him, the other OCD mentally ill marvel drone, incelsheet, vonocourt, and jessi77 would be net positives for Ree.

[Joe Molotov]

Captain Marvel was cutting promos for the USAF, not sure why this would move the needle.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

yeah, but marvel was a yt

e: a cis yt at that

[Potato]

The war on The Beast continues...
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mr-beasts-chocolate-partnered-with-the-rainforest-alliance-the-same-partner-as-hersheys-both-currently-facing-lawsuit-related-to-child-labor.694624/

Most likely posted from an Apple phone or laptop. Unironically.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-57#post-102339886

https://deadline.com/2023/03/bbc-renew-strike-jk-rowling-season-6-1235281258/

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Again, someone (same someone, in fact) swoops into this thread of scared and exhausted trans people, drops without commentary a news story that almost seems to celebrate the transphobe's continued material success--before, it was practically an ad for an upcoming pro-Rowling documentary; here, it's practically an ad for a series based on her fiction--then vanishes.

Am I the only one here bothered by this?

Nope and that's their entire posting history too.  Posting about 30 links a day to random threads with zero commentary.

Given there's a specific admin note on this thread saying not to do that, reported it.

[Greatness Gone]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/for-those-currently-employed-do-you-take-up-job-recruiters-on-their-initial-meetings.694657/

These folks tend to hit me up every few days. I'm a fan of them. It's how I got basically every job post my first real full-time professional job.

I have a decline macro and then connect with them on LinkedIn, where they contact me, if I"m not interested.

One piece of job advice I got ages ago is to interview regurlarly--well at least once per year to see if what's the market rate and possibly get a nice raise--job hopping is still the best way to get raises bar none.

Alerting your future employers to your thread creation rate. No way you're not on Era on company dime 👮‍♀️

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-57#post-102340042

Happy international women's Day all!!!!

Trans women are women

And TERF's suck.

Also have to repeat how useful and good getting off Twitter was my health, can't image how others cope with flood of hate and transphobia.

I'm certain their lives would be much better if they got off Ree

[Yulwei]

according to the ree lorebook, the mods have even acknowledged the fact that zerovagina is a ban-baiter in one of his past ban reasons. banning him, the other OCD mentally ill marvel drone, incelsheet, vonocourt, and jessi77 would be net positives for Ree.

I can't remember who it was exactly, but a while back one of these losers (or maybe it was Kyuuji?) threw a tantrum once they realized the poster they kept replying to but getting no reply from had them on ignore 

 

[Greatness Gone]

Also have to repeat how useful and good getting off Twitter was my health, can't image how others cope with flood of hate and transphobia.

what does this have to do with twitter? my dash is nothing but onlyfans "performers" and memes and PC gaming stuff. why would you be trans and follow hate/transphobic content on social media?

[Potato]

I have a theory about toxic masculinity, don't worry this relates, contemporary toxic masculinity requires that the participant crave judgement. Passive dismissal or neutral observation is seen as an attack because the lack of positive judgement is seen as negative judgement. If you casually observe that a man has tangentially interacted with femininity, they may react in a way that forces you to judge their actions, becoming aggressive as a defense mechanism against a lack of judgement.

Simplified Example:

Me: "Hey I noticed you played Dream Daddy, what'd you think?"

TM Participant: "Why are you asking? What do you think I'm gay?"

Trans women, despite transitioning, were still immersed in toxic masculinity growing up. So the defensive posture of aggressively seeking out judgement can still be present, leading to trans women like Vonocourt. One does not shed the negative effects of toxic masculinity simply by acting like a women and going through a surgical transition and calling yourself by a different name and gender.

Is it any surprise biological women have reservations about sharing communal spaces with transwomen? a formative part of being a woman is being SOCIALIZED like one. Why would you want to deal with male aggression in a "female" form.

Careful now, you people with testicles are almost saying the quiet part out loud.

The quiet part

Trans women aren't real women

[close]

[Potato]

ZeoVGM
Banned
He/They

Sadly though…

User Banned (3 Days): Misrepresenting Fellow Member's Arguments; History of Hostility

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-rock-stand-up-special-to-be-netflixs-first-live-event.653085/post-102226345

Not even a week, but protected members aren’t a thing. 

Why is Zero even protected, he's a straight white male who's only disability is being a fucking dork moron??

He changed his pronouns to he/they, didn't you see? Bigot

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wwe-in-talks-with-state-gambling-regulators-to-legalize-betting-on-wrestling-matches.694660/

 

[marrec]

I have a theory about toxic masculinity, don't worry this relates, contemporary toxic masculinity requires that the participant crave judgement. Passive dismissal or neutral observation is seen as an attack because the lack of positive judgement is seen as negative judgement. If you casually observe that a man has tangentially interacted with femininity, they may react in a way that forces you to judge their actions, becoming aggressive as a defense mechanism against a lack of judgement.

Simplified Example:

Me: "Hey I noticed you played Dream Daddy, what'd you think?"

TM Participant: "Why are you asking? What do you think I'm gay?"

Trans women, despite transitioning, were still immersed in toxic masculinity growing up. So the defensive posture of aggressively seeking out judgement can still be present, leading to trans women like Vonocourt. One does not shed the negative effects of toxic masculinity simply by acting like a women and going through a surgical transition and calling yourself by a different name and gender.

Is it any surprise biological women have reservations about sharing communal spaces with transwomen? a formative part of being a woman is being SOCIALIZED like one. Why would you want to deal with male aggression in a "female" form.

It’s certainly the main factor for why second and third wave feminists feel they have to build bulwarks against trans women who are increasingly vocal in academic feminism.

[Pissy F Benny]

They've allowed bets on wrestling in the UK and probably elsewhere for years, who cares? They will only let you win a fairly low max amount tho.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Bdumbs with another 

Gotta hit that daily quota somehow. God I hate clickbait farms.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/top-gun-maverick-faces-calls-to-be-stripped-of-oscar-nominations.694639/page-2#post-102374113

[Daffy Duck]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2600-pages-of-hate-a-collection-of-leaked-emails-from-anti-trans-expert-witnesses-right-wing-lawmakers-and-conservative-legal-groups.694663/

This is genocide, say it

No.