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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46380 on: April 03, 2023, 12:31:11 AM »
On the one side there's the ree nutters and on the other there's this lot -

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The absolute state of it.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46381 on: April 03, 2023, 02:03:37 AM »


So, so weird. Why won't people engage on trans issues?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46382 on: April 03, 2023, 04:25:54 AM »
Quote from: Voras, post: 103535585, member: 10715
I think that cis people should consider shutting the fuck up about trans issues. It's not your lane you don't need to always have a take.

Quote from: Voras, post: 103536614, member: 10715
seriously if you are a cis person using an instance of transphobia to tell people what to do you are also being transphobic. We are not a convenient excuse for you to talk down to other people. You do not speak for us.

Quote from: Voras, post: 103592507, member: 10715
It’s wild how people pretend to care about trans people here and then completely ignore what trans people have to say

:insane

Literally talking to nobody on that last page.
If you don't want trans people to die, you must post in this thread while simultaneously not posting about trans issues as a cis person.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46383 on: April 03, 2023, 05:01:30 AM »
That way you can be outraged no matter what :rollsafe
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46384 on: April 03, 2023, 09:47:16 AM »
VOX:
"We have nothing against women, it's actually about ethics in journalism"

Weirdly familiar :thinking

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46385 on: April 03, 2023, 12:00:16 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/saudi-arabia-is-investing-38-billion-to-become-a-video-game-hub.704654/#post-103610870

Quote from: Fezan, post: 103610630, member: 9512
Nice need more development studios in middle east and Asia so we can finally get some diversity

Quote from: Nkcell, post: 103610828, member: 72925
Saudia Arabia is not where you want this to occur for several reasons.

Quote from: ClickyCal', post: 103610870, member: 7351
Saudi Arabia is not one of the middle east or Asian countries that this is a good thing for.

I’d love to hear their alternative list of middle eastern countries where this would be a good thing for.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2023, 12:08:04 PM by BIONIC »
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46386 on: April 03, 2023, 12:16:04 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/twitter-is-reportedly-quietly-demphasizing-and-deboosting-tweets-with-lgbt-terminology-in-them-including-disabling-dm-embeds.704039/

Anytime people talk about Twitter censorship they sound like conspiracy nuts. Isn't the algorithm public now anyway? Recently saw a tweet about how people's assumption had been completely wrong and how likes were boosting content much more than retweets

Edit:
https://twitter.com/aakashg0/status/1641976892885540865

These algorithms and patterns are complex, you can't possibly understand the machinations behind them. In some ways we can't even control what happens. If Elon Musk takes over all these complex system will crash and burn because it takes at least 100 fulltime developers and a UN ambassador for human rights in Somalia to maintain and monitor all these systems and provide a safe, scalable, sustainable and inclusive community for everyone. If one developer lost their job that would set us back in decades or even centuries in terms of knowledge of machine learning and AI.
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Like makes tweet go 30 x :derp
We delete Tweets the FBI faxes to us :derp
We manually type in trending topics that we read on CNN :derp

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46387 on: April 03, 2023, 12:18:33 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/saudi-arabia-is-investing-38-billion-to-become-a-video-game-hub.704654/#post-103610870

Quote from: Fezan, post: 103610630, member: 9512
Nice need more development studios in middle east and Asia so we can finally get some diversity

Quote from: Nkcell, post: 103610828, member: 72925
Saudia Arabia is not where you want this to occur for several reasons.

Quote from: ClickyCal', post: 103610870, member: 7351
Saudi Arabia is not one of the middle east or Asian countries that this is a good thing for.

I’d love to hear their alternative list of middle eastern countries where this would be a good thing for.

Hearing Syria and Afghanistan are pretty nice these days :biden

Or maybe Iran if you're feeling fruity :trumps
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46388 on: April 03, 2023, 12:29:48 PM »
she didn't have an iconic voice but she pulled off generic sultry and the new one just doesn't


I liked Ada's voice in Resident Evil 2 Remake the best, I think that was already a different person shame she couldn't be cast for this remake too.

Capcom doesn't want to pay for union actors.

These games sell 5+ million copies, yet the company cuts corners however they can. Sometimes they do their best impression of EA by charging people for cheat codes.

Won't stop that forum from worshipping them regardless. Not until bonus Cammy outfits for SF6 start dropping...
finally beat RE4R last night and I will absolutely continue to worship and suck Capcock if they keep pumping out games like this. :trumps

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46389 on: April 03, 2023, 12:40:10 PM »
I'm surprised Re's Burqa Brigade isn't demanding to ban SF6 yet


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46390 on: April 03, 2023, 12:41:21 PM »
When I played Resident Evil 2 Remake, I thought to myself: "imagine if RE4 got remade like this"
When I played Mario Kart 8 I thought: "Man, if only they remade every Mario Kart track with this engine"


I like how a lot of media is aligning to my personal tastes these days :trumps
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46391 on: April 03, 2023, 12:46:07 PM »
Quote from: Voras, post: 103535585, member: 10715
I think that cis people should consider shutting the fuck up about trans issues. It's not your lane you don't need to always have a take.

Quote from: Voras, post: 103536614, member: 10715
seriously if you are a cis person using an instance of transphobia to tell people what to do you are also being transphobic. We are not a convenient excuse for you to talk down to other people. You do not speak for us.

Quote from: Voras, post: 103592507, member: 10715
It’s wild how people pretend to care about trans people here and then completely ignore what trans people have to say

:insane

Literally talking to nobody on that last page.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46392 on: April 03, 2023, 12:51:02 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/legendary-has-acquired-the-film-tv-rights-to-street-fighter-the-studio-will-work-with-video-game-company-capcom-on-future-projects.704675/#post-103614659

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Holloywood with no ideas, they are all betting on gaming IPs lol

Quote from: ZeroVagine, post: 103614659, member: 1119
I mean, Hollywood has worked with adaptations for a hundred years. Gone with the Wind was originally a book.

There's plenty of original ideas in Hollywood. You just need to pay attention to more than high budget blockbusters.

Wait, who just posted that? :wut

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46393 on: April 03, 2023, 12:53:53 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/if-you-dont-want-trans-people-to-die.702811/page-4#post-103476635

Quote from: IceCrashRadio, post: 103476635, member: 21411
I need to see more cis people in here, I'm calling out the allies you making your calls today? You don't get to go silent on trans visibility day.

Edit: friend I'm going to ask for my era account to be deleted. Keep up the fight I'm going to focus on my own projects where I feel I can make a real difference.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46394 on: April 03, 2023, 12:59:14 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/turkey-ratifies-finlands-nato-application-membership-is-now-becoming-reality-very-soon.703384/page-2


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In addition to the rightful concerns about human rights, isn't this also a country with an extremely conservative morality police?

In the nightmare scenario where a publisher like Capcom is acquired through Saudi Arabian state funds, would they still be able to make games without having harsh and regressive censorship pushed upon them? Would there even be female protagonists? LGBT characters? Unclothed arms?

 

That honestly frightens me.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46395 on: April 03, 2023, 01:02:01 PM »
Quote from: Fezan, post: 103614212, member: 9512
Saudi goverment like all governments are shitty. I dont know why you guys perfer one over the other even when the list of crimes by other governments is huge

Quote from: ClickyCal', post: 103614461, member: 7351
I can at least live in my country legally without being charged the death penalty.

But I thought you were being actively genocided? :thinking :society :kermit
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46396 on: April 03, 2023, 01:05:09 PM »
This genius really stepped into it though:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/saudi-arabia-is-investing-38-billion-to-become-a-video-game-hub.704654/page-2#post-103614212

Quote from: Fezan, post: 103614212, member: 9512
The people who live like slaves are mostly blue-collar labor workers. Other foreign workers like us have it much much better and besides some issues it is not that bad at all.
Also just like most countries they also have a white privilege where if you are white you get huge salaries and respect

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46397 on: April 03, 2023, 01:14:06 PM »


:insane

Literally talking to nobody on that last page.

If you don't want trans people to die, you must post in this thread while simultaneously not posting about trans issues as a cis person.


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46398 on: April 03, 2023, 01:37:39 PM »
Quote from: Cyprinodon Martius, post: 103619315, member: 21812
I think these Sirens in The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt are my most hated enemies in gaming. Not only are they just unfun to fight against, having them overturn your boat in the middle of the sea and triggering a thalassophobia-related panic attack isn't a great time.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46399 on: April 03, 2023, 01:41:50 PM »

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*Lifts glasses and squints at the picture*

Damn, that's my favourite ResetEra user.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46400 on: April 03, 2023, 02:08:17 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/twitter-is-reportedly-quietly-demphasizing-and-deboosting-tweets-with-lgbt-terminology-in-them-including-disabling-dm-embeds.704039/page-3#post-103607606
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It's not dependent on having an online presence, it's dependent on connecting to other people for a host of reasons. Being honest, have you really sat and thought about how some of us can't go to our doctor for our healthcare? Can't book in an appointment to understand whether the changes we're experiencing with our bodies are normal, in line with expectation or the like? That the closest we often have to that is reading the direct experiences of others and seeing the images they share to best understand ourselves and what we're going through. Be that hormones, surgery, dysphoria or beyond. Have you paused to think that we can't go to typical news sources to understand the minutiae of how genocidal rhetoric is advancing and what areas of our life, access to spaces and ability to do things might be under threat. That I'm keenly plugged into sources I follow and trust because the question of whether I buy a house in this country is directly tied to understanding whether my access to healthcare and ability to live life publicly is likely to change in the coming years.

These are only two brushstrokes of a wider painting, but I hope you can start to get a sense of why people might continue to have a twitter account. We haven't even touched on being able to follow people's transition journeys and seeing their trans joy, hoping that it might be something you can have for yourself in the future. Haven't spoken to how having a timeline filled with trans women and illustrations is something that brings me comfort at a time when I can't even buy lunch without seeing my existence demonised on the front pages of newspapers.

Be grateful that you don't have a dependency on online communities for such things. Don't scapegoat that for being why you'll "never understand" though; that's a wilful decision on your part. It's easy enough to have a conversation about it and to keep an open mind, rather than assigning judgement to those you're unfamiliar with. Sit with it for a bit because I'm happy for you that you don't have to contend with that side of things, as I am in equal part sympathetic to the difficulties you face that I might not be familiar with or understand.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/twitter-is-reportedly-quietly-demphasizing-and-deboosting-tweets-with-lgbt-terminology-in-them-including-disabling-dm-embeds.704039/page-3#post-103615130
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46401 on: April 03, 2023, 02:17:49 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/saudi-arabia-is-investing-38-billion-to-become-a-video-game-hub.704654/#post-103611743

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46402 on: April 03, 2023, 02:24:20 PM »
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Saudi goverment like all governments are shitty. I dont know why you guys perfer one over the other even when the list of crimes by other governments is huge

distinguished mentally-challenged fellow alert.  We got a live distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.  distinguished mentally-challenged fellow alert.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46403 on: April 03, 2023, 02:37:28 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/twitter-is-reportedly-quietly-demphasizing-and-deboosting-tweets-with-lgbt-terminology-in-them-including-disabling-dm-embeds.704039/#post-103522700

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this post was quite amusing, thanks
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46404 on: April 03, 2023, 02:46:09 PM »
an exchange:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/twitter-is-reportedly-quietly-demphasizing-and-deboosting-tweets-with-lgbt-terminology-in-them-including-disabling-dm-embeds.704039/#post-103523777

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People need to leave Twitter

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Yeah but this is getting kinda ridiculous. We were all like "leave Facebook" and I definitely did, now its "leave Twitter". Like, where does it end? In the sense of, where's a place that doesn't fucking suck that's actually used by more than a few people.

Quote from: ClickyCal'
Is social media more important than LGBTQ rights?

Quote from: SageShinigami
....Did I say that? Is it implied?

Quote from: ClickyCal'
I mean, you're posting about how ridiculous it is that you have to leave twitter if you want to support us, in a thread about them literally pulling genocide propaganda.

 :hesright

you literally have two choices: continue using social media like a bigot, or quit in solidarity

wonder what the response will be?

 :( *sigh*  :(

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...*sigh* If we're talking about LGBT people, I am part of the operative "us". The point of my post wasn't "I'm tired of supporting LGBT people". It was:
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Ideally, it ends with a social network that exists as a public good that can't be hijacked by corporate pond scum or vengeful idiots like Musk to be wielded as a weapon against the disenfranchised.
Thank you, for an actual answer. This is what I meant. This shit just keeps happening and its forcing anyone in any marginalized group into different areas and it's fucking tiring. TikTok is a mess but it's at least not owned by an asshole (as far as we know) but America wants to ban that. How delightful.

I see, so the solution is something that doesn't exist and you can't have, and in the meantime you're going to do one of the two real-world options you were given earlier  :doge

their solution is always having the cake and eating it too and tantruming if they can't

also TikTok being owned by good people :dead
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46405 on: April 03, 2023, 02:46:16 PM »
dewd!!! XD!!!1!

Ninja Edit: Fuckin uncle DP'ing me hard....wait a minute *rofl*

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46406 on: April 03, 2023, 02:58:01 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/saudi-arabia-is-investing-38-billion-to-become-a-video-game-hub.704654/#post-103610870

Quote from: Fezan, post: 103610630, member: 9512
Nice need more development studios in middle east and Asia so we can finally get some diversity

Quote from: Nkcell, post: 103610828, member: 72925
Saudia Arabia is not where you want this to occur for several reasons.

Quote from: ClickyCal', post: 103610870, member: 7351
Saudi Arabia is not one of the middle east or Asian countries that this is a good thing for.

I’d love to hear their alternative list of middle eastern countries where this would be a good thing for.
They're talking about those "good" middle eastern countries where women are respected and given equal rights, where the death penalty and other barbaric mediaeval punishments are not enacted for public entertainment, where LGBT people are not persecuted, where they don't start civil wars against minorities and where they don't enforce a state-sponsored religion.


Saudi Arabia
Qatar
UAE
Iran
Israel

United States

Actually, I don't know where they're talking about...



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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46407 on: April 03, 2023, 03:06:09 PM »
Quote from: Cyprinodon Martius, post: 103619315, member: 21812
I think these Sirens in The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt are my most hated enemies in gaming. Not only are they just unfun to fight against, having them overturn your boat in the middle of the sea and triggering a thalassophobia-related panic attack isn't a great time.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46408 on: April 03, 2023, 03:20:12 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/saudi-arabia-is-investing-38-billion-to-become-a-video-game-hub.704654/#post-103610870

Quote from: Fezan, post: 103610630, member: 9512
Nice need more development studios in middle east and Asia so we can finally get some diversity

Quote from: Nkcell, post: 103610828, member: 72925
Saudia Arabia is not where you want this to occur for several reasons.

Quote from: ClickyCal', post: 103610870, member: 7351
Saudi Arabia is not one of the middle east or Asian countries that this is a good thing for.

I’d love to hear their alternative list of middle eastern countries where this would be a good thing for.
They're talking about those "good" middle eastern countries where women are respected and given equal rights, where the death penalty and other barbaric mediaeval punishments are not enacted for public entertainment, where LGBT people are not persecuted, where they don't start civil wars against minorities and where they don't enforce a state-sponsored religion.


Saudi Arabia
Qatar
UAE
Iran
Israel

United States

Actually, I don't know where they're talking about...

UK = terf island
Nordic countries = overwhelmingly white and insular
Czech Republic = racist and transphobic and conservative, look at Daniel Vavra
Poland = racist and transphobic and conservative, look at CD Projekt
Russia = lol
China = lol
Japan = conservative culture, regressive about women
Mexico = macho culture, overwhelmingly Catholic, cartels
Brazil = conservative

maybe India should become the new video game mecca?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46409 on: April 03, 2023, 03:22:28 PM »
Quote from: Fezan, post: 103614212, member: 9512
Saudi goverment like all governments are shitty. I dont know why you guys perfer one over the other even when the list of crimes by other governments is huge

Quote from: ClickyCal', post: 103614461, member: 7351
I can at least live in my country legally without being charged the death penalty.

But I thought you were being actively genocided? :thinking :society :kermit

Quote from: ClickyCal'
Open homophobia and transphobia is fine also apparently?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/saudi-arabia-is-investing-38-billion-to-become-a-video-game-hub.704654/post-103615337

Weird. Suddenly the UK doesn't sound so bad. I guess when you think about it the right to put a trans rapist in a female prison isn't really all that important.

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Locking this thread while we review comments and reports.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46410 on: April 03, 2023, 03:23:50 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/turkey-ratifies-finlands-nato-application-membership-is-now-becoming-reality-very-soon.703384/page-2


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In addition to the rightful concerns about human rights, isn't this also a country with an extremely conservative morality police?

In the nightmare scenario where a publisher like Capcom is acquired through Saudi Arabian state funds, would they still be able to make games without having harsh and regressive censorship pushed upon them? Would there even be female protagonists? LGBT characters? Unclothed arms?

 

That honestly frightens me.
:spiders

Remember when the chinese goverment censored some Genshin Impact characters and RE liked those designs more?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46411 on: April 03, 2023, 03:39:48 PM »
trans-identified male

is a slur?

I don't care enough to look up the reasoning, but I'm curious

*sigh*

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46412 on: April 03, 2023, 03:41:24 PM »
trans-identified male

is a slur?

I don't care enough to look up the reasoning, but I'm curious

*sigh*

It's kind of confusing but I think by trans-identified male, people mean trans-women. Trans women would then unsurprisingly not like it because it puts emphasis on the male part.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46413 on: April 03, 2023, 03:46:53 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/saudi-arabia-is-investing-38-billion-to-become-a-video-game-hub.704654/#post-103610870

Quote from: Fezan, post: 103610630, member: 9512
Nice need more development studios in middle east and Asia so we can finally get some diversity

Quote from: Nkcell, post: 103610828, member: 72925
Saudia Arabia is not where you want this to occur for several reasons.

Quote from: ClickyCal', post: 103610870, member: 7351
Saudi Arabia is not one of the middle east or Asian countries that this is a good thing for.

I’d love to hear their alternative list of middle eastern countries where this would be a good thing for.
They're talking about those "good" middle eastern countries where women are respected and given equal rights, where the death penalty and other barbaric mediaeval punishments are not enacted for public entertainment, where LGBT people are not persecuted, where they don't start civil wars against minorities and where they don't enforce a state-sponsored religion.


Saudi Arabia
Qatar
UAE
Iran
Israel

United States

Actually, I don't know where they're talking about...

UK = terf island
Nordic countries = overwhelmingly white and insular
Czech Republic = racist and transphobic and conservative, look at Daniel Vavra
Poland = racist and transphobic and conservative, look at CD Projekt
Russia = lol
China = lol
Japan = conservative culture, regressive about women
Mexico = macho culture, overwhelmingly Catholic, cartels
Brazil = conservative

maybe India should become the new video game mecca?
Only if you're Hindu though.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46414 on: April 03, 2023, 03:48:39 PM »
trans-identified male

is a slur?

I don't care enough to look up the reasoning, but I'm curious

*sigh*
It's definitely a slur.

It's just typical of those TERF cunts to deny the woman with a penis their womanhood.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46415 on: April 03, 2023, 04:56:17 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/turkey-ratifies-finlands-nato-application-membership-is-now-becoming-reality-very-soon.703384/page-2


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In addition to the rightful concerns about human rights, isn't this also a country with an extremely conservative morality police?

In the nightmare scenario where a publisher like Capcom is acquired through Saudi Arabian state funds, would they still be able to make games without having harsh and regressive censorship pushed upon them? Would there even be female protagonists? LGBT characters? Unclothed arms?

 

That honestly frightens me.
:spiders

Remember when the chinese goverment censored some Genshin Impact characters and RE liked those designs more?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/genshin-impact-altered-censored-characters-to-appease-ccp.535484/#post-79737380
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lmao wtf is going on with this thread? State-sponsored censorship is a-okay if you like the costume changes, I guess.
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It's just Era being happy that some of them won't show any cleavage anymore which is fine, because many people on here didn't even want to touch the game at all because of that. Not like Mihoyo will change anything about the young looking characters which is worse.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46416 on: April 03, 2023, 04:58:37 PM »
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It's not dependent on having an online presence, it's dependent on connecting to other people for a host of reasons. Being honest, have you really sat and thought about how some of us can't go to our doctor for our healthcare? Can't book in an appointment to understand whether the changes we're experiencing with our bodies are normal, in line with expectation or the like? That the closest we often have to that is reading the direct experiences of others and seeing the images they share to best understand ourselves and what we're going through. Be that hormones, surgery, dysphoria or beyond. Have you paused to think that we can't go to typical news sources to understand the minutiae of how genocidal rhetoric is advancing and what areas of our life, access to spaces and ability to do things might be under threat. That I'm keenly plugged into sources I follow and trust because the question of whether I buy a house in this country is directly tied to understanding whether my access to healthcare and ability to live life publicly is likely to change in the coming years.

 :doge :doge :doge

Twitter is essential for people who think they know better than trained scientific professionals and reject the messaging of mainstream media in favour of their own chosen editorials, signed: trans activists, flat earthers, anti-vaxxers, pro-obesity lobbyists, and many more total fucking mentals.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46417 on: April 03, 2023, 05:05:24 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/tiktok-is-addictive-for-many-girls-especially-those-with-depression.704789/#post-103626941

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Think I might be an adolescent girl.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46418 on: April 03, 2023, 05:06:46 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/tiktok-is-addictive-for-many-girls-especially-those-with-depression.704789/#post-103629458

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No joke, leaving every other social media site has been so good for me. Beyond that, their algorithms actively make everything seem worse because they're trying to push divisive and offensive content to keep you on the platform even longer.

:spiders :spiders

What website does this cunt think he’s running? :lol
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46419 on: April 03, 2023, 05:24:52 PM »
era is straight up horseshoe theory proof.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46420 on: April 03, 2023, 05:41:48 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/tiktok-is-addictive-for-many-girls-especially-those-with-depression.704789/#post-103629458

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No joke, leaving every other social media site has been so good for me. Beyond that, their algorithms actively make everything seem worse because they're trying to push divisive and offensive content to keep you on the platform even longer.

:spiders :spiders

What website does this cunt think he’s running? :lol
I'll never understand Ree declaring leaving social media sites is a good thing YET ResetEra is a social media site

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46421 on: April 03, 2023, 06:36:47 PM »
trans-identified male

is a slur?

I don't care enough to look up the reasoning, but I'm curious

*sigh*

It's kind of confusing but I think by trans-identified male, people mean trans-women. Trans women would then unsurprisingly not like it because it puts emphasis on the male part.

https://twitter.com/SydneyLWatson/status/1642964301894787077

It really takes me a minute to parse this shit. Who is mad at who now? Everyone playing their language games

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46422 on: April 03, 2023, 06:45:49 PM »
Quote from: Kyuuji
It's not dependent on having an online presence, it's dependent on connecting to other people for a host of reasons. Being honest, have you really sat and thought about how some of us can't go to our doctor for our healthcare? Can't book in an appointment to understand whether the changes we're experiencing with our bodies are normal, in line with expectation or the like? That the closest we often have to that is reading the direct experiences of others and seeing the images they share to best understand ourselves and what we're going through. Be that hormones, surgery, dysphoria or beyond. Have you paused to think that we can't go to typical news sources to understand the minutiae of how genocidal rhetoric is advancing and what areas of our life, access to spaces and ability to do things might be under threat. That I'm keenly plugged into sources I follow and trust because the question of whether I buy a house in this country is directly tied to understanding whether my access to healthcare and ability to live life publicly is likely to change in the coming years.

 :doge :doge :doge

Twitter is essential for people who think they know better than trained scientific professionals and reject the messaging of mainstream media in favour of their own chosen editorials, signed: trans activists, flat earthers, anti-vaxxers, pro-obesity lobbyists, and many more total fucking mentals.
Don't forget the morons in the mainstream media who think they don't need their editors and can just spew fourth unchecked information that aligns with their personal political viewpoints.
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« Reply #46423 on: April 03, 2023, 06:51:30 PM »
trans-identified male

is a slur?

I don't care enough to look up the reasoning, but I'm curious

*sigh*

It's kind of confusing but I think by trans-identified male, people mean trans-women. Trans women would then unsurprisingly not like it because it puts emphasis on the male part.

https://twitter.com/SydneyLWatson/status/1642964301894787077

It really takes me a minute to parse this shit. Who is mad at who now? Everyone playing their language games
A bunch of people who probably only took up football at a late age (and have female bodies warped by their homebrand bathtub hormones) play against men who have probably been playing the most vicious and competitive kind of street football for their whole lives (and have male bodies) and gets thrashed...

 :whatsthedeal
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46424 on: April 03, 2023, 06:53:19 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/tiktok-is-addictive-for-many-girls-especially-those-with-depression.704789/#post-103629458

Quote from: B-Dubs, post: 103629458, member: 143
No joke, leaving every other social media site has been so good for me. Beyond that, their algorithms actively make everything seem worse because they're trying to push divisive and offensive content to keep you on the platform even longer.

:spiders :spiders

What website does this cunt think he’s running? :lol

He's getting paid, mark my words. Just doesn't want the rest of the staff to know.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46425 on: April 03, 2023, 07:04:08 PM »
A bunch of people who probably only took up football at a late age (and have female bodies warped by their homebrand bathtub hormones) play against men who have probably been playing the most vicious and competitive kind of street football for their whole lives (and have male bodies) and gets thrashed...

 :whatsthedeal

Yeah I don't really understand why this is even used as ammunition. The team that exclusively consists of trans men isn't exactly going to pick people for their skill.

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« Reply #46426 on: April 03, 2023, 07:12:07 PM »
it's not ammunition for any side, it's just to be able to say you did a thing first (entire team ftm), which they explicitly said was their motivation

I read that something similar was done earlier except it was an entire team mtf and they also lost like 7-1, but that wasn't the point
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46428 on: April 03, 2023, 07:57:43 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/saudi-arabia-is-investing-38-billion-to-become-a-video-game-hub.704654/#post-103610870

I’d love to hear their alternative list of middle eastern countries where this would be a good thing for.
Afghanistan, once The Taliban get "their" money from the United States and so can drop their medieval authoritarian theocracy that they implement just to spite America for stealing from them. :ufup

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« Reply #46429 on: April 03, 2023, 07:57:50 PM »
the entire point of this reboot is to fund step 9 of JK's genocidal plan, how about we don't signalboost this news  :social2

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46430 on: April 03, 2023, 08:14:39 PM »
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So, so weird. Why won't people engage on trans issues?

 :confused
Surprised it's not getting more traction since the article is nuts and by Vox's resident conspiracy theorist who believes that Gamergate is an active powerful political force and orchestrated Johnny Depp as a similar fascist plot as this article alleges the New York Times is behind. (Appropriately for an article that argues that you should not ever share "both sides" the article only quotes conspiracy theorists.)

The conclusion of this is amazingly nuts, even starts with the same sentence back to back:
The onus is on all journalists, not just trans journalists, to understand these issues and represent trans people fairly.

The burden of this journalism, furthermore, should not fall primarily on trans journalists, who often also have to deal with the exhaustion of the soul that comes from having to repeatedly debunk the same bad arguments, only to see them pop up in ever-larger, ever-more influential news outlets.

Again, it’s not that “just asking questions” is inherently bad. But when journalists ask those questions by undermining the established scientific research, the standardized medical practices, and especially the dignity and lived experiences of trans people, they cater to those who would deny basic rights to trans people. And attacks on trans people, as many have eloquently argued, aren’t “just” attacks on a tiny minority.

Even if one isn’t moved by the alarmingly high (and rising) rates of hate crimes, violence, depression, and death that trans people face as they struggle for acceptance, most people would be alarmed at what critics like Judith Butler have deemed a form of cultural fascism — the systematic use of propaganda and disinformation to seed hate and resentment from a majority group against a perceived enemy. As history teaches us, such violent rhetoric rarely rests with a single target.

Trans people deserve to live safely, to live lives of joy — a state many describe as trans euphoria, the opposite of dysphoria. That joy needn’t be siloed away; our concept of gender needn’t be frightening or intimidating. In fact, what if more journalism framed gender exploration as wondrous? As a marvelous opportunity to evolve our humanity, to explore and understand the self?

What if we are all, even the raging angry transphobes among us, genderfluid, futuristic, transhumanist, Steven Universe gemstones, Ursula Le Guin aliens, hot dog-handed quantum entities? Trans people perceive gender and identity in wild and wonderful ways. What isn’t exciting about that? What isn’t exciting about a trans kid undergoing a joyous self-discovery? What isn’t exciting about our expanded awareness of gender, and all the things we have yet to discover?

Nearly all of the headlines about trans identity right now are headlines born of ostracism, fear, oppression. Imagine how much more vibrant, how much more joyful, this American era might be if we were telling a different story about the trans experience — a story of love and wonder, of human evolution in the making.

Who better than journalists to elevate that story instead?
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/twitter-is-reportedly-quietly-demphasizing-and-deboosting-tweets-with-lgbt-terminology-in-them-including-disabling-dm-embeds.704039/page-3#post-103607606
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It's not dependent on having an online presence, it's dependent on connecting to other people for a host of reasons. Being honest, have you really sat and thought about how some of us can't go to our doctor for our healthcare? Can't book in an appointment to understand whether the changes we're experiencing with our bodies are normal, in line with expectation or the like? That the closest we often have to that is reading the direct experiences of others and seeing the images they share to best understand ourselves and what we're going through. Be that hormones, surgery, dysphoria or beyond. Have you paused to think that we can't go to typical news sources to understand the minutiae of how genocidal rhetoric is advancing and what areas of our life, access to spaces and ability to do things might be under threat. That I'm keenly plugged into sources I follow and trust because the question of whether I buy a house in this country is directly tied to understanding whether my access to healthcare and ability to live life publicly is likely to change in the coming years.

These are only two brushstrokes of a wider painting, but I hope you can start to get a sense of why people might continue to have a twitter account. We haven't even touched on being able to follow people's transition journeys and seeing their trans joy, hoping that it might be something you can have for yourself in the future. Haven't spoken to how having a timeline filled with trans women and illustrations is something that brings me comfort at a time when I can't even buy lunch without seeing my existence demonised on the front pages of newspapers.

Be grateful that you don't have a dependency on online communities for such things. Don't scapegoat that for being why you'll "never understand" though; that's a wilful decision on your part. It's easy enough to have a conversation about it and to keep an open mind, rather than assigning judgement to those you're unfamiliar with. Sit with it for a bit because I'm happy for you that you don't have to contend with that side of things, as I am in equal part sympathetic to the difficulties you face that I might not be familiar with or understand.
lmao at this bitch

https://www.resetera.com/threads/twitter-is-reportedly-quietly-demphasizing-and-deboosting-tweets-with-lgbt-terminology-in-them-including-disabling-dm-embeds.704039/#post-103523777
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Ideally, it ends with a social network that exists as a public good that can't be hijacked by corporate pond scum or vengeful idiots like Musk to be wielded as a weapon against the disenfranchised.
haha yeah what we need to protect us from fascists is state-run social media so we can totally lose our shit when Trump/DeSoros wins and our "public good" is being "hijacked" by "pond scum or vengeful idiots ... to be wielded as a weapon" even though the entire point was to place it in this political sphere under monopoly control because we're idiots who never think through anything we demand

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He doesn't know that if it was run by the government the First Amendment would apply and Twitter or whoever wouldn't be able to ban for "hate speech" or misgendering and so on. :girlaff
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46431 on: April 03, 2023, 08:22:58 PM »
This might be my favorite part of that whole Vox article:
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One of the most troubling recent trends in legacy media is that of allowing bad actors to weaponize the research around transgender identity. Eric Llaveria Caselles is a sociologist who analyzes neuroscience research about trans brains, and the author of an article examining biases in such research. His work concluded that “the historical oppression of trans people as epistemic agents” — that is, the refusal to listen to trans people as arbiters of their own lived experiences — was an underlying problem. But still — “I see how my article gets thrown around in social media from totally opposite positions in the debate,” Caselles said in an email. He told Vox that as a trans person and a trans studies scholar, he believes trans issues are sociocultural rather than a matter of science — but he sees little room for nuanced arguments in the current cultural conversation surrounding trans identity.

“The problem with this whole debate on the science on trans identity is that it plays into an instrumentalization of trans people’s existences,” Caselles said, “in order to mobilize a conservative anti-liberal sentiment.” He professed ambivalence about engaging with the debate on those terms, “but sadly, there is no other choice, since trans lives are at stake here.”
:lol


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« Reply #46433 on: April 03, 2023, 09:18:18 PM »
This might be my favorite part of that whole Vox article:
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One of the most troubling recent trends in legacy media is that of allowing bad actors to weaponize the research around transgender identity. Eric Llaveria Caselles is a sociologist who analyzes neuroscience research about trans brains, and the author of an article examining biases in such research. His work concluded that “the historical oppression of trans people as epistemic agents” — that is, the refusal to listen to trans people as arbiters of their own lived experiences — was an underlying problem. But still — “I see how my article gets thrown around in social media from totally opposite positions in the debate,” Caselles said in an email. He told Vox that as a trans person and a trans studies scholar, he believes trans issues are sociocultural rather than a matter of science — but he sees little room for nuanced arguments in the current cultural conversation surrounding trans identity.

“The problem with this whole debate on the science on trans identity is that it plays into an instrumentalization of trans people’s existences,” Caselles said, “in order to mobilize a conservative anti-liberal sentiment.” He professed ambivalence about engaging with the debate on those terms, “but sadly, there is no other choice, since trans lives are at stake here.”
:lol

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These sites spread several key tropes that still form the core of the anti-trans movement’s concern over children. First, the “detransition” myth: That trans kids will regret their decision later on and detransition. Research overwhelmingly shows that teens who transition rarely regret their decisions. Multiple large-scale studies have found that trans kids know they’re trans from a young age and nearly 95 percent remain committed to their transition years later; one large, 50-year study conducted in Sweden found that only about 2 percent ever express regret.

read the actual study

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The regret rate defined as application for reversal of the legal gender status among those who were sex reassigned was 2.2% for the whole period 1960–2010 with no significant sex difference.

(referring to cases of physical reassignment, not all trans people who had their legal documents changed)

they even define the applications as "regret applications" to add extra oomph behind the claim

they didn't actually ask anyone whether they regretted it, whether they felt like there was no going back from their new body, whether they were tired of the whole thing and didn't want to go through further medical procedures, or if they felt pressure to stay as they are from their community to help normalize it for others

how many trans people decided not to get surgery but continue living as trans anyway, and don't regret not getting the surgery?

Vox also emphasized the validity of the study because omg it's a 50 YEAR STUDY except it only covered 681 people from 1960 to 2010, because the practice was underground and more medically dubious in those times, and by contrast the entire movement kicked into high gear around 2013

https://journals.lww.com/cur/fulltext/2021/03000/transgender_surgery___knowledge_gap_among.12.aspx

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There are about 9000 transgender surgeries being performed annually across the United States (US). The latest statistics indicate that 0.6% of the US population identifies as transgender.[1] About 10.9% of medical encounters of transsexualism result in gender-affirming surgeries.[2] There is a steady rise in the number of sex change surgeries being performed annually, with a total 8304 in 2017 to a total of 9576 in 2018, with 2885 of male to female surgeries and 6691 of female to male surgeries.[3]

maybe we need more recent studies on these thousands upon thousands of people? maybe we can actually ask them how they feel this time?


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At minimum, the presence of a small number of kids who detransition is irrelevant to most medical concerns — they shouldn’t prevent affirmative care for the ones who do want to transition.

so when something is dangerous and there's a low chance it could cause serious and permanent harm, what do we usually do under those circumstances

like say what if there was a pandemic that has a really low chance of killing you, like only 1%, how should we deal with something like that  ???
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46434 on: April 03, 2023, 09:24:23 PM »
here's a study for Vox:

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ask if any of these people regret it
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« Reply #46435 on: April 03, 2023, 09:37:10 PM »
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I've been waiting for this, in a good way. The movies were always going to be too abridged to satisfy big fans and a TV show is the ideal medium for deep dives. The movies are good but for book fans, they could go so much deeper. It'll be tough to fight that nostalgia of the original though.

On a similar note, I always felt like updating the Star Wars OT to not rely on 1977 technology would be a huge win, but the nostalgia is so strong that I think people would riot. There have been so many shows trying to hold consistency with the look of those old movies and it holds them back in a way.
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That's awesome. A book per season sounds like a great idea.
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I'll take "Not Able to Read the Room" for 500?
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They're bigots that know that would get hit with a ban if they said what they really thought.
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She's heavily involved, so there's gonna be hella transphobia throughout the series.
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She's never selling the IP at this point. She's so intrenched and obsessed with this crusade and will want to keep the IP to "spite" trans people.
:lawd

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46436 on: April 03, 2023, 09:46:05 PM »
here's a study for Vox:

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ask if any of these people regret it

Why are you ruining trans euphoria with information that might keep them from something they might regret?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #46437 on: April 03, 2023, 10:10:56 PM »
Can you guys stop posting right-wing disinformation in this thread rather than the proven science of the trans lived experience? Like Uncle posted that without even checking the Twitter likes or follows of any of the researchers or any of the 80 respondents.

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« Reply #46438 on: April 03, 2023, 10:19:43 PM »
euphoria used to be a perfectly cromulent word, but the internet has transformed it into this decayed, rotten thing, to the point where when I read it I can only see this man, flashing into the totality of my vision, like the eye of Sauron when Frodo touched the ring

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« Reply #46439 on: April 03, 2023, 10:27:07 PM »
Oh, look at Uncle, the professional quote maker, upset because the internet has enhanced his understanding of euphoria:
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'In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god's blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.'