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[maninthemirror]

Yes, it is trans genocide (a FAQ and what you can do about it today)

Created by user Bionic?!?

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/yes-it-is-trans-genocide-a-faq-and-what-you-can-do-about-it-today.711593/

by this definition:

1. Indoctrinating Kids that their gender is not the birth gender is a genocide against their birth gender

2. the identity of biological women is being erased through genocide by Trans women and their predominantly white liberal allies

3. the religious minority will suffer from genocide when their turn comes to comply with trans views on women

4. Atheists are committing genocide against Religious people by converting them thru shaming and discussion

5. White people are correct in being afraid that their white majority will impact them and their white privilege will be victim of genocide

6. cis gender men would have to have sex with other women with male organs in order to avoid genocide for not liking Trans women

7. biological women athletes are victims of genocide when their records are erased by biological athletes


 

[Sideshow Raheem]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-way-in-which-many-people-and-not-just-many-era-users-talk-about-professional-critics-is-so-completely-alien-to-me.709238/page-2#post-104234777

User Banned (1 Week): Inflammatory Generalization; Gamergate Rhetoric; History of Inflammatory Generalizations

When it comes to videogames, i would hope that a critic at least is as good as a 5 year old to make a critique on a game.
youtu.be/zbE6fqBuGkA
I do not respect this.

 

Hope they were banned for using the wrong video, this is the correct one:

They beating up on Dean Takahashi again?

Dean's not a particularly adept game player, but he is a solid journalist. He's had to widen his scope to include criticism mostly because he gets invited to these review junkets and it's not like there's the manpower to send a critic and a reporter.

Game journalism never really escaped from its enthusiast roots. There's a few people who can write solid game-related articles and features, but mostly it's kids who are excited to be in the same room with the flashy lights and new Mario game.

(Although I'll take the cloying fanboys over the dullards who write about "important" game issues anyday.)

I don't remember the whole thing but I recall it had something to do with him calling out games for being too difficult or something 

He's not a great game player. He played Mass Effect, and didn't realize there were RPG mechanics. And the manual dexterity required for Cuphead simply eluded him.

But you can be a good critic and not a savant with games. And you can be a good journalist and poor critic.

[Nintex]

He played Mass Effect, and didn't realize there were RPG mechanics.

[HardcoreRetro]

Not a great player still means he'd have some modicum of skill. The fucking pigeon on the right is outperforming this moron. How the fuck do you miss the RPG stuff in Mass Effect, there's huge tutorial pop ups explaining that shit. If he took the time to look on the back of the box of the game he's playing it probably says it's an rpg as well.

Are you Dean Takahashi?

[Sideshow Raheem]

Not a great player still means he'd have some modicum of skill. The fucking pigeon on the right is outperforming this moron. How the fuck do you miss the RPG stuff in Mass Effect, there's huge tutorial pop ups explaining that shit. If he took the time to look on the back of the box of the game he's playing it probably says it's an rpg as well.

Are you Dean Takahashi?

Yes, by which I mean no.

Again, good journalist, poor critic.

[NekoFever]

There's an ongoing war against trans people in at least the US and UK, as this is the latest fabricated distraction the right is making a ruckus about while ignoring actual problems. Hogfarts was banned to provide a quantum of solace to members of this community targeted by a fascist genocidal movement of which JK Rowling is perhaps the most prominent face and leader.

Bringing that ban up and diminishing the severity of the justification for it, does nothing to help the matter you purport to care about, and just makes it look like you don't particularly care about the reasons for why a game that aids a transphobic hate movement was banned. If anything, it just hurts the cause you're supposed to be supporting. Distracts from it, might derail the discussion to be about what should and shouldn't be banned (which is likely to lead to the thread being locked) opens up to a justified hostile impression and makes you look like someone who's not worth listening to, and so maybe the issue you appear to be upset about isn't worth paying attention to either.

Anyway, people largely don't know or care about any of these kinds of issues, because they don't impact them enough personally. And you can't always not buy all the things that's got some immoral bullshit going on. It's not an excuse for never doing an ethical consumption, but failures will inevitably happen and everyone's a hypocrite, so the best you can do is something sometimes. A boycott is mostly symbolic, more about showing solidarity with and commitment to a cause than something that will have a material impact on sales, so suffer no illusions in that regard.

I have been and continue encouraging people to avoid Atomic Fart. It's tied to a Z investor and has had a bunch of zuspect imagery.

Hogfarts

Atomic Fart

 

[Pissy F Benny]

[railGUN]

So what's happening to trans people loosely fits into the definition of genocide.

But you can't be racist to the race of white people.

 

[BIONIC]

Yes, it is trans genocide (a FAQ and what you can do about it today)

Created by user Bionic?!?

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/yes-it-is-trans-genocide-a-faq-and-what-you-can-do-about-it-today.711593/

[Potato]

10 steps of genocide

1. Create more than two social genders
2. Attempt to Normalize those other genders and call anyone who doesn’t use it to them as bigots
3. Push for trans women to use women’s bathrooms and anyone who disagrees is a bigot
4. Push for trans women to be called literal women and anyone who disagrees is a bigot
5. Attempt to push kids as young as 3 to transition as normal and anyone who disagrees is a bigot
6. Reverse psychology and claim genocide if 3, 4 and 5 are not accepted
7. Enforce pronouns in workplace and disagreement met with unemployment and Incarceration
8. After submission of white people, black, brown and religious minorities are next target of forced indoctrination
9. Illegal to have gender assigned to any child by parents
10. The final solution : jail, deport , kill anyone who does not comply

Sounds legit. We're clearly at stage 7 genocide. Step it up trans people.

[Potato]

NothingLoud in Constructive wants to know if he can create artisianal, bespoke "Advanced OT" AI threads heavily moderated and scaffolded by the opinions of local SMEs:

[USER=1995]Nepenthe[/USER] and [USER=143]B-Dubs[/USER]

Question about the AI discussion: while I have not particularly been enthusiastic about some of the hot take/drive-by/super skewed comments made in some of the past AI threads here, I think there could be some potentially stimulating AI discussion on ResetEra with the right guidelines and guard rails. I think the new staff announcement/rules change is a great step in the right direction.

However, one additional suggestion I have (and I don't know what this ultimately may look like but I'd be glad to be a part of helping to piece it together if need be), is a special additional "advanced OT" or "specially allowed threads" (prepared with care and established posters, similar to a gaming OT) that foster guided/tightly moderated discussion space for cutting-edge AI research discussion (beyond what the current OT fosters through pop science news articles and tweet embeds).

I got this idea originally when making this thread but I noticed the discussion was kind of limited in participation and I learned from making this thread and thought about what I could do in the future to make a topic like this more accessible to the public here:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/really-cool-science-or-nightmare-fuel-brain-organoid-computing-for-artificial-intelligence.693361/

I believe as a technology-slanted forum, we have enough posters here (many have claimed to be working in or studying AI, art, philosophy/ethics, and intersection fields) with a minimum threshold in knowledge and credentials and interest to have an environment that fosters this, it just needs the right thinking behind it, the right preparation, and the right guardrails. I know not everyone here is an academic or highly skilled or knowledgeable about data science and AI, and I don't expect everyone to be. In fact, I don't even want anyone who would participate in such a topic to BE researchers in AI. I think a variety of thoughts and questions could have space in such an arena, but it should be monitored for trolling, low-effort posting, and disingenuous questions while being scaffolded by quality posts by recognized local subject matter experts (SME).

The benefits of this: I think if there is a bridge between the cutting-edge news in academia, and the layman's common population that posts here, via SME that volunteer to translate, at needed points, discussion between the two realms of knowledge (advanced knowledge <-> curious beginners/common posters) that it could lead to 1) some useful learning for everybody, 2) thoughtful/stimulating discussion, and 3) ultimately, increasing the density of informed opinions on this forum regarding AI.

What this COULD look like is something like the following:

1) SME posts a new preprint or publication in a top machine learning journal with applications toward climate change or deepfaking art or cybersecurity or health science.
2) The SME posts with a specific thread title (or header/flag) that signals this is a carefully moderated professional discussion space, or in a new "Advanced OT" for advanced/professional AI discussion.
2) They open discussion with a summary of the abstract, results, takeaways, methods, caveats, and limitations of scope of the paper.
3) They present 1-3 opening discussion questions about the paper.
4) Posters are encouraged to respond how they want but they must attempt to comment (even if it's in confusion or clarification) about the paper and/or the 1-3 opening discussion questions.
5) Responding posters are encouraged to respond directly to other people's posts, instead of drive by/hot-take or post isolated monologue-style commentary that doesn't address the prompt, summary, or questions.
6) SMEs occasionally pepper the discussion to answer questions, provide their own opinions, and clarify anything.
7) Staff/moderators monitor disingenuous/toxic posts.
Everybody learns something from ACTUAL primary sources of information (the academic literature, or respectable science/ethics/art blogs by external SMEs). Let's say, the only links/sources allowed to evidence an argument or present facts would be literature, tweets from actual scientists/ethicists/artists
The pace of discussion would obviously go much slower, and require significant moderating resources. Again, I don't know exactly how this may all be executed and what staffing limitations there are, but it's an idea I had that I was willing to share and explore with anybody that wants to help make something like this happen.

This is EXTREMELY similar to the format that 500-800 level graduate computer/data science courses follow. I took a computational biology course led by a world leader in explainable AI where there was no textbook, no homework problems out of a book, no established curriculum. The curriculum was remade every quarter, mapped around the latest key chosen papers in the field, around special topics in machine learning. Each 75 minute lecture was followed next class period by a discussion hour which involved a group of 2-3 PhD students reading a special topic paper beforehand, crafting a 30 minute presentation around its takeaways and critiquing and examining it. Then the rest of the class would chime in with their own questions, critiques, and analysis. The students would answer each other's questions and examine each other's arguments, while the professor would moderate or chime in if needed, but mostly stay on the sidelines once the discussion was sufficiently fertile and autonomous. The latest pedagogy encourages this style of learning. Students accrue, internalize, and organize knowledge based on how well they can teach and explain and answer information to each other. According to what I know of Bloom's taxonomy (which I understand is still valid and used to write learning outcomes in curricula), synthesizing new knowledge at the highest levels incorporates principles like I've outlined here and that were used in my graduate classes. So really, this has the cool opportunity of being such a fertile learning space that it mimics academic learning spheres (obviously without the same rigor or credentialing, but we don't need to do that, we're just trying to learn and have fun here).

Besides staffing considerations, we have the SMEs, we have the will/interest I think, and we have the potential to foster some really cool learning on this forum that would hopefully seed the broader layman's topics more and increase the general education of the forum populace, while also giving breathing space for professionals to have measured professional discussion without having to try to immerse in pop science topics where the minimum threshold of post quality or knowledge is much lower and it feels alienating and difficult to keep the discussion quality maximized.

I as a data scientist would honestly love having an anonymous, yet public, yet encouraging and safe space to talk about my field and its evolvements, much like we have off topic OTs for a variety of members and social groups and interests. I don't feel like the current AI topics meet this need, and yes I get a lot of this space in grad school myself, and I get a lot of cool discussion in the journal club on my professional slack channels. But I think it would be fun to mimic and extend some of that to this forum.

What does the staff and forum think about something like this? Limitations or concerns I haven't thought about? Affirmation and agreement/disagreement with what I've outlined? I'm all ears.

is this just because other doctoral candidates don't want to talk to him and he needs to find someone to do this at because what the hell

In which paragraph does he talk about cheating on his husband again?

[Potato]

Yes, it is trans genocide (a FAQ and what you can do about it today)

Created by user Bionic?!?

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/yes-it-is-trans-genocide-a-faq-and-what-you-can-do-about-it-today.711593/

ITT: Listen up you fucking Jews, you don't have the exclusive rights to genocide!

[Propagandhim]

Incredible thread, one of the best. Thank you for all the hard work in putting it together. Incredibly timely and educational for those less clued into what's going on and the outlook ahead.

Beware the well-intentioned demands for a sticky though, as from past experience it's the easiest way to have your thread ignored and traffic reduced. Instead this warrants conversation and recognition from allies. If people want this visible, do your part in coming back to keep it in view across timezones.

"Artificially create an illusion of activity and interest by annoyingly bumping this thread because...ME"

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dame-edna-creator-barry-humphries-dies-in-sydney-at-89.711674/

A horrible transphobe and right wing prick. Rest in piss.

[Boredfrom]

Ugh, had no idea about that, so I definitely agree!

[EDIT] I have requested a thread delete because I obviously don't want to elevate a transphobe.

So he was a transphobe? or was just TransRE being TransRE yet again?

[Crumb]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/couple-shot-at-after-attempting-to-deliver-groceries-to-the-wrong-house.711590/

                   shock thread?
 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/atomic-heart-has-exceeded-initial-expectations-of-focus-entertainment.711491/#post-104542607

Wasn’t this the game we were meant to be boycotting because it’s made by friends of Putin?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/atomic-heart-has-exceeded-initial-expectations-of-focus-entertainment.711491/#post-104542706

User banned (permanent): Troll account

""We""?

Well, I mean we’re both posting on a forum that’s banned all talk of another game for much more frivolous reasons than ‘Maniacal tyrant and his brainwashed followers invades neighbouring country, kills hundreds of thousands’. So yeh, guess I’m surprised to see this thread and the number of responses on it.

[BIONIC]

Incredible thread, one of the best. Thank you for all the hard work in putting it together. Incredibly timely and educational for those less clued into what's going on and the outlook ahead.

Beware the well-intentioned demands for a sticky though, as from past experience it's the easiest way to have your thread ignored and traffic reduced. Instead this warrants conversation and recognition from allies. If people want this visible, do your part in coming back to keep it in view across timezones.

"Artificially create an illusion of activity and interest by annoyingly bumping this thread because...ME"

It’s stickied now btw

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Stickying the thread contributes to the ongoing genocide, jannies

[close]

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jonathan-majors-has-been-dropped-by-his-management-and-pr-agency.709877/page-11#post-104397239

User Banned (3 Months): Dismissing Racism; Prior Severe Bans for Concern Trolling and Dismissive Behavior

This is the first I've heard of Neeson being a racist monster. Part of the reason why some guys get a second chance is that they have good PR. Majors didn't have that advantage (and definitely doesn't now), so he's going to have to live with the consequences of his actions more so than an actor who had a team cover his tracks.

Context is key here though in regard to this situation. His friend had been raped by a stranger. The rapist was identified as being black. He and his friends went out looking for the guy, since the cops weren't gonna do anything at the time, and he realized while driving around how fucked up it was what he was doing, felt ashamed and called it off. So context in this case matters. Keep in mind he was like 20 or 21 at the time.

Adding a bit here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liam_Neeson

Under personal
"
In an appearance on Good Morning America, Neeson elaborated on his comments while denying being a racist, stating that he asked for physical attributes of the rapist other than his race and that he would have done the same if the rapist was "a Scot or a Brit or a Lithuanian".[96] He also said that he had purposely gone into "black areas of the city" but that he "did seek help" and counselling from his friends and a priest after coming to his senses. He said that the lesson of his experience was "to open up [and] to talk about these things", including toxic masculinity and the underlying "racism and bigotry" in both the U.S. and Northern Ireland. The controversy following his comments led to cancellation of the red carpet event for the premiere of Cold Pursuit.[97][98] Neeson was publicly defended by Michelle Rodriguez,[99] Whoopi Goldberg,[100] John Barnes[101] and Ralph Fiennes.[102] He later appeared in the Atlanta episode "New Jazz" as a fictionalised version of himself, to examine the controversy.[103]"

In the case of Majors, the fact that his PR team AND Agency both dropped him is telling. Its had to compare this as the main issue is there hasn't been a similar case in a while, since public opinion on these matters have changed drastically since METOO, the Depp case and other situations. So Maybe a few years ago this could have been shoved under the rug, but not now.

Case in point Justin Roiland of Rick and Marty, case has been dropped but its clear he's s scumbag.

https://resetera.kiwifarms.net/search/actioned?u=Darkspellmaster

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2-cheerleaders-shot-near-austin-after-apologizing-for-opening-the-door-to-the-wrong-vehicle.710390/page-4#post-104389172

User Banned (1 Week): Inappropriate Commentary

I wonder how many of these gun owners have long COVID brain fog.

[BIONIC]

The current OT is really only a holding cell for a specific kind of strain of AI discussion- that being topics meant primarily to showcase and hype up machine-generated content like art, writing, and music which in turn invites all the problems I've outlined before.

There are no restrictions on AI topics otherwise. If you want to go forth and do this, there's really nothing in the new rules stopping you outside of the subject matter of whatever you want to talk about. If you want to talk about how AI is being applied in agriculture, medicine, the military, etc., then you don't need staff approval to make those threads, much less staff approval on how rigorously you want to conduct their discussions. The soft ban is quite clear in what is and isn't affected.

I also don't anticipate that we'll need a lot of staff oversight on such a thread. I could be reading the forum wrong, and if so staff can always adjust, but I wager that the bulk of interest in the subject on Era as a whole is within the pop science aspect of machine-generated content simply because it means "more games faster" and that's all that the majority of people really care about here.

I don't disagree that the average interest in AI is probably related to art and games.

I just think that the minority that could be interested in more advanced AI discussion thresholds, myself included, might appreciate a fringe/special topic for that space.

I will contemplate if I want to pursue planning to create an OT/subject thread such as this. Let me see if I can draft something and then I'll let you know here if and when I've created it, so that it can be reviewed if it seems appropriate enough.

Thanks for clarifying the AI topics regulations, anyway.

Is this guy such a fucking pariah in his alleged world-renowned academic circles that he has to have “rigorous” AI discussions on a shitty video game forum?

[benjipwns]

NothingLoud in Constructive wants to know if he can create artisianal, bespoke "Advanced OT" AI threads heavily moderated and scaffolded by the opinions of local SMEs:

This is EXTREMELY similar to the format that 500-800 level graduate computer/data science courses follow. I took a computational biology course led by a world leader in explainable AI where there was no textbook, no homework problems out of a book, no established curriculum. The curriculum was remade every quarter, mapped around the latest key chosen papers in the field, around special topics in machine learning. Each 75 minute lecture was followed next class period by a discussion hour which involved a group of 2-3 PhD students reading a special topic paper beforehand, crafting a 30 minute presentation around its takeaways and critiquing and examining it. Then the rest of the class would chime in with their own questions, critiques, and analysis. The students would answer each other's questions and examine each other's arguments, while the professor would moderate or chime in if needed, but mostly stay on the sidelines once the discussion was sufficiently fertile and autonomous. The latest pedagogy encourages this style of learning. Students accrue, internalize, and organize knowledge based on how well they can teach and explain and answer information to each other. According to what I know of Bloom's taxonomy (which I understand is still valid and used to write learning outcomes in curricula), synthesizing new knowledge at the highest levels incorporates principles like I've outlined here and that were used in my graduate classes.

This is just seminars, which is normal across graduate and higher undergraduate everywhere, and is a format thousands of years old.

So really, this has the cool opportunity of being such a fertile learning space that it mimics academic learning spheres (obviously without the same rigor or credentialing, but we don't need to do that, we're just trying to learn and have fun here).

Ask Nepenthe and the rest of the staff if all the labor they do becoming SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS is just having fun or essential to productive discussion where people's lives are at stake.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-happened-to-today-concerts-crowds.709160/page-2#post-104227790

User Banned (5 Days): Inflammatory point of comparison; prior related infractions

The weirdest thing I ever see regarding phones is full groups of teens all walking down the street together, just non-stop phone use. None of them are talking to each other, they're all just staring down at their screens while they walk in unison. It's weirdly cult-like. I can't fault them for being conditioned like this and far be it from me to judge another generation's norms, but its extremely strange to me that it's become so compulsory.

it absolutely should be judged. this isn’t normal human behavior and it’s stunting their social skills and brain development

-watching kids at restaurants have panic attacks when their parents take away their ipads for 2 seconds to feed them
-watching teenagers pull up phones in a movie theater and malls instead of enjoying something or actually talking to eachother
-trying to train newly hired college grads at work and turning around to see them on their phone

this shit is harmful to society. it’s adhd on steroids. i’m just glad i’ll be dead before these ipad babies try and attempt to run the world

[nobody of note]

AI isn't content with putting hard-working artists out of work, it's now taking the jobs of boring bland gaming-side posters:
(constructive thread)

Is it true that this user is making posts only written by an AI?

https://www.resetera.com/members/raregamer.130882/

And it sure looks like it:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-come-all-the-horror-games-based-on-movie-ips-are-all-online-multiplayer-only.709058/#post-104207279

There could be several reasons why horror games based on movie intellectual properties (IPs) are predominantly online multiplayer-only:

Increased Player Engagement: Online multiplayer games have the potential to keep players engaged for longer periods of time compared to single-player games. By incorporating multiplayer elements into horror games based on movie IPs, game developers may aim to increase player retention and foster a sense of community among players, resulting in more hours of gameplay.

Social Interaction: Horror games can be intense and challenging, and some players may enjoy the added element of social interaction that comes with online multiplayer gameplay. Playing with friends or other players online can enhance the overall experience, as players can cooperate or compete with each other, adding an additional layer of excitement and thrill to the horror genre.

Cross-Promotion: Horror games based on movie IPs may be developed as a form of cross-promotion, where the game helps to promote the movie, and vice versa. Online multiplayer games have the potential to generate a buzz and create a shared experience among players, leading to increased visibility and promotion for the associated movie IP.

Revenue Generation: Online multiplayer games often incorporate various forms of monetization, such as in-game purchases, loot boxes, or subscription models, which can generate significant revenue for game developers. By focusing on online multiplayer gameplay, horror games based on movie IPs may aim to capitalize on these monetization strategies to generate ongoing revenue streams.

Development and Maintenance Costs: Developing and maintaining multiplayer games can be complex and resource-intensive, requiring ongoing updates, server maintenance, and technical support. By focusing on online multiplayer-only gameplay, game developers may aim to streamline the development and maintenance process, potentially reducing costs compared to developing and maintaining both single-player and multiplayer modes.

It's important to note that not all horror games based on movie IPs are online multiplayer-only, and there are still many horror games that offer single-player modes or a combination of single-player and multiplayer gameplay. The decision to make a horror game based on a movie IP online multiplayer-only may vary depending on various factors such as the target audience, the goals of the game developer, and the resources available for development.

[benjipwns]

I love how WORLD LEADING DOCTORAL CANDIDATE Nothing Loud at no point asked himself how the staff is supposed to identify and designate "subject matter experts" on topics in which the staff themselves are not informed let alone experts, probably because this is something the staff claims to be able to do when establishing The One Position and a multitude of protected posters on all kinds of topics in which the staff and the protected posters are blatantly and obviously wrong or worse about the topic.

[HaughtyFrank]

Spicy race war in the Assassin's creed thread

If the rumors are true, which I do not believe at all, it’s kind of a middle finger to Asian males who were excited to play a character like themselves

Instead, they decide to do a fish out water story in another Asian setting (racist), and use the actually very messed up story of the only black guy who wasn’t killed on sight as justification.

Want a black protagonist, make an assassins creed in Africa! Like South Africa during colonization! I’d love to stab so Boer mofos!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/insider-gaming-assassins-creed-codename-red-to-feature-both-a-samurai-and-shinobi.698014/post-104557574

[D3RANG3D]

[Taco Bell Tower]

Spicy race war in the Assassin's creed thread

If the rumors are true, which I do not believe at all, it’s kind of a middle finger to Asian males who were excited to play a character like themselves

Instead, they decide to do a fish out water story in another Asian setting (racist), and use the actually very messed up story of the only black guy who wasn’t killed on sight as justification.

Want a black protagonist, make an assassins creed in Africa! Like South Africa during colonization! I’d love to stab so Boer mofos!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/insider-gaming-assassins-creed-codename-red-to-feature-both-a-samurai-and-shinobi.698014/post-104557574

middle finger to asian males lmaoooo

[BIONIC]

Just call me a racist and get out of your system. Tell me I’m scum and I should die. Tell me I’m an incel who lives in my mothers basement. Just because I don’t a gree with this approach, if it’s true, I’m have no right to live.

[Boredfrom]

Spicy race war in the Assassin's creed thread

If the rumors are true, which I do not believe at all, it’s kind of a middle finger to Asian males who were excited to play a character like themselves

Instead, they decide to do a fish out water story in another Asian setting (racist), and use the actually very messed up story of the only black guy who wasn’t killed on sight as justification.

Want a black protagonist, make an assassins creed in Africa! Like South Africa during colonization! I’d love to stab so Boer mofos!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/insider-gaming-assassins-creed-codename-red-to-feature-both-a-samurai-and-shinobi.698014/post-104557574

There is like a ton of Ninja/Samurai game made by Japanese developers with Japanese characters like right now.or it doesn’t count because Japan?

[Nintex]

I'm gonna be blunt about it, regardless of this news, Era is not the place to talk about Asian representation.

Glad to see it didn't take long for people to prove my point

 

[HaughtyFrank]

It would have been interesting to see what the reaction would be like if the main character of the Egypt Assassin's Creed had been an Asian dude.

[Nintex]

I wouldn't worry about representation, I would worry about this game making it out the door before Ubisoft files for bankruptcy.

[Boredfrom]

This just released and is mostly an Asian cast (well, historical figures having the faces of Yakuza characters):



Or this SoulsLike game from the Three Kingdoms period:

[Potato]

Ugh, had no idea about that, so I definitely agree!

[EDIT] I have requested a thread delete because I obviously don't want to elevate a transphobe.

So he was a transphobe? or was just TransRE being TransRE yet again?

99% of Australians didn't know about those quotes and didn't care if they did. Barry Humphries is a national legend and will remain that way despite the best efforts of these idiots.

[benjipwns]

Want a black protagonist, make an assassins creed in Africa! Like South Africa during colonization!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/insider-gaming-assassins-creed-codename-red-to-feature-both-a-samurai-and-shinobi.698014/post-104557574

[Potato]

The current OT is really only a holding cell for a specific kind of strain of AI discussion- that being topics meant primarily to showcase and hype up machine-generated content like art, writing, and music which in turn invites all the problems I've outlined before.

There are no restrictions on AI topics otherwise. If you want to go forth and do this, there's really nothing in the new rules stopping you outside of the subject matter of whatever you want to talk about. If you want to talk about how AI is being applied in agriculture, medicine, the military, etc., then you don't need staff approval to make those threads, much less staff approval on how rigorously you want to conduct their discussions. The soft ban is quite clear in what is and isn't affected.

I also don't anticipate that we'll need a lot of staff oversight on such a thread. I could be reading the forum wrong, and if so staff can always adjust, but I wager that the bulk of interest in the subject on Era as a whole is within the pop science aspect of machine-generated content simply because it means "more games faster" and that's all that the majority of people really care about here.

I don't disagree that the average interest in AI is probably related to art and games.

I just think that the minority that could be interested in more advanced AI discussion thresholds, myself included, might appreciate a fringe/special topic for that space.

I will contemplate if I want to pursue planning to create an OT/subject thread such as this. Let me see if I can draft something and then I'll let you know here if and when I've created it, so that it can be reviewed if it seems appropriate enough.

Thanks for clarifying the AI topics regulations, anyway.

Is this guy such a fucking pariah in his alleged world-renowned academic circles that he has to have “rigorous” AI discussions on a shitty video game forum?

Yes

 

[benjipwns]

Upon reflection, I shouldn't have cut off the last part of that:

Like South Africa during colonization! I’d love to stab so Boer mofos!

Because the Boers weren't the British.

[Transhuman]

A 1500's Red Dead type game with a Native American protagonist and viewpoint would be pretty cool, but I honestly wouldn't put it past resetera to get mad there's no black people in it.

I take it back, they'd still complain apparently.

[Yulwei]

2024:

Yes, GPT5 is artist genocide (a FAQ and what you can do about it)

[Uncle]

2024:

Yes, GPT5 is artist genocide (a FAQ and what you can do about it)

anyone who says it's not is taking part in step 10: denial, therefore proving them right

[benjipwns]

If there's no genocide then why has that one poster been posting a bunch saying that there's a genocide? Checkmate, fascists.

[Jansen]

Anti-trans politicians are engaging in genocide. They are using state power to attack trans and non binary people's rights to participate in public life, to access health care, and to keep their kids. This is not political posturing or pandering. It's genocide

[Straight Edge]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wb-more-than-confident-with-evil-dead-rise-1-month-to-go-and-review-embargo-has-lifted.699436/page-7

Messofanego

I'm more interested hearing this really goes into the motherhood theme, cause there aren't many horror movies about that topic other than the incredible Prevenge (the director/actor made this while pregnant) and the divisive mother!.

or
The Exorcist
Babadook
Inside
Mama
Aliens
Hereditary
Rosemary's Baby

[Joe Molotov]

The ending of Evil Dead Rise is basically just

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Aliens

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but I still like it.

[maninthemirror]

9 hours after trans genocide thread and now even with it being stickies : 60 replies , 3000 views


You know I think the lack of engagement is due to some silent members knowing this crowd is nuts

[benjipwns]

I mean, what are they supposed to be posting? They can't debate it, that's not allowed. And it's not like anyone's going to post about what they're doing about it because it's ResetERA.com so nobody's doing anything but being angry into the void.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I mean, what are they supposed to be posting? They can't debate it, that's not allowed. And it's not like anyone's going to post about what they're doing about it because it's ResetERA.com so nobody's doing anything but being angry into the void.

This reminds me of the avatar blackout on neogaf.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/koko-da-doll-star-of-transgender-sex-worker-documentary-shot-and-killed-in-atlanta.711623/
OP

*Please do not lock this as a shock thread.*

My partner herself is one, so this seriously hits very hard. This is terrifying, and more reason for any trans person to be justified to be armed if they feel so.

OP's partner has to be a saint to put up with their insanity

It's genocide. The word is not hyperbole.

If it’s not white, straight, cis, male, and Christian - it is by default threatening to the GOP. Fuck their hate.

Pai Pai Master

I'm so sorry Koko. I'm so sorry to the trans community. You truly deserve better.

I'm starting to believe this user developed a trans fetish because I've never seen them active in trans posts til recently.  Of course Ree doesn't care for only 20 posts.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wb-more-than-confident-with-evil-dead-rise-1-month-to-go-and-review-embargo-has-lifted.699436/page-7

Messofanego

I'm more interested hearing this really goes into the motherhood theme, cause there aren't many horror movies about that topic other than the incredible Prevenge (the director/actor made this while pregnant) and the divisive mother!.

or
The Exorcist
Babadook
Inside
Mama
Aliens
Hereditary
Rosemary's Baby

Messy's wife must be living in a horror film life to be living with him.

[Transhuman]

BREAKING NEWS. PROSTITUTE KILLED IN ATLANTA

"Our investigators have not found any indication the victim was targeted for being transgender or a member of the LGBTQ+ community and these cases do not appear to be random acts of violence"

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/outrage-as-florida-republicans-pass-fascist-bill-to-remove-trans-kids-from-parents%E2%80%99-custody.711416/page-5#post-104549537

United states of saudi arabia.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/outrage-as-florida-republicans-pass-fascist-bill-to-remove-trans-kids-from-parents%E2%80%99-custody.711416/page-5#post-104557121

And yet what needs to be done is still gonna catch you a ban here. That shit can't happen anymore.

i've been banned for less, everyone here just has to skirt around it and act like the lives of those who are genociding us still have value in this world

[Averon]

Spicy race war in the Assassin's creed thread

If the rumors are true, which I do not believe at all, it’s kind of a middle finger to Asian males who were excited to play a character like themselves

Instead, they decide to do a fish out water story in another Asian setting (racist), and use the actually very messed up story of the only black guy who wasn’t killed on sight as justification.

Want a black protagonist, make an assassins creed in Africa! Like South Africa during colonization! I’d love to stab so Boer mofos!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/insider-gaming-assassins-creed-codename-red-to-feature-both-a-samurai-and-shinobi.698014/post-104557574

Update:
User banned (permanent): Troll account

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/outrage-as-florida-republicans-pass-fascist-bill-to-remove-trans-kids-from-parents%E2%80%99-custody.711416/page-5#post-104557121

And yet what needs to be done is still gonna catch you a ban here. That shit can't happen anymore.

i've been banned for less, everyone here just has to skirt around it and act like the lives of those who are genociding us still have value in this world

                   fascist and genocidal rhetoric?
 

[HaughtyFrank]

Spicy race war in the Assassin's creed thread

If the rumors are true, which I do not believe at all, it’s kind of a middle finger to Asian males who were excited to play a character like themselves

Instead, they decide to do a fish out water story in another Asian setting (racist), and use the actually very messed up story of the only black guy who wasn’t killed on sight as justification.

Want a black protagonist, make an assassins creed in Africa! Like South Africa during colonization! I’d love to stab so Boer mofos!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/insider-gaming-assassins-creed-codename-red-to-feature-both-a-samurai-and-shinobi.698014/post-104557574

Update:
User banned (permanent): Troll account

Guy was clearly insane, but was it really more insane than claiming that Sakurai recreated an image from the civil rights era with his silly smash bros screenshot? And yet the latter gets people banned for "Dismissing concerns". It's completely arbitrary

[Uncle]

even with western conservative legislation targeting trans stuff, it's still obvious to even era that the US and europe are among the friendliest places on earth to trans people, right?

even if you can't get gender affirming care as a minor, you can still get people fired or even jailed for misgendering you

or am I wrong about this? does south africa have a booming vaginoplasty market? is india some sort of underground trans haven that you just never hear people talking about?

the only reason the US is passing legislation to protect children from receiving life-altering procedures is because people are doing these things to their kids in the first place, yeah? in other countries it's so unthinkable and far outside mainstream life that they don't even consider it



I guess it's easy to avoid doing a genocide when the people you would be genociding just quietly live their alternative lives in peace and don't go looking for trouble?

[Averon]

Spicy race war in the Assassin's creed thread

If the rumors are true, which I do not believe at all, it’s kind of a middle finger to Asian males who were excited to play a character like themselves

Instead, they decide to do a fish out water story in another Asian setting (racist), and use the actually very messed up story of the only black guy who wasn’t killed on sight as justification.

Want a black protagonist, make an assassins creed in Africa! Like South Africa during colonization! I’d love to stab so Boer mofos!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/insider-gaming-assassins-creed-codename-red-to-feature-both-a-samurai-and-shinobi.698014/post-104557574

Update:
User banned (permanent): Troll account

Guy was clearly insane, but was it really more insane than claiming that Sakurai recreated an image from the civil rights era with his silly smash bros screenshot? And yet the latter gets people banned for "Dismissing concerns". It's completely arbitrary

A lot on ERA don't consider Asians, especially East Asians, to be a distressed minority. They're "white-adjacent." So their issues and concerns, whether it's legit or just insane ramblings, gets far less leeway compared to Black and especially trans issues. Which is why you can accuse Sakurai of anti-Black racism from a screenshot and can wish denial of cancer treatment because something something trans lives matter and not get banned for it even though a bunch of users were banned for doing something similar not 24 hours prior.

[Propagandhim]

TO THE HAPPENING BUNKER, DONATE PLS TO FIGHT JOANNE'S GENOCIDE:

Clara Sorrenti (“Ms. Sorrenti”), a transgender woman, advocate, and popular online streamer Keffals on Twitch, has filed a Human Rights Application against the London Police Services and the London Police Services Board (collectively, the “LPS”). The Application is based on the discrimination Ms. Sorrenti experienced due to her gender identity and gender expression, which is contrary to section 1 of the Ontario Human Rights Code (the “Code”).

...

Ms. Sorrenti’s Application argues that the LPS breached the Code and discriminated against her by:
failing to investigate or adequately investigate the Death Threat before deciding to arrest her at gunpoint,
misgendering her,
calling her by her dead name,
treating her with disrespect and inhumanity while in custody, and
in having antiquated and discriminatory policies and procedures which do not accommodate gender identity and expression to the point of undue hardship.

In addition to the persistent misgendering by LPS, Ms. Sorrenti also alleges that at the time of her arrest a London Police officer groped her breast and said, “yep, it’s a she”.

Ms. Sorrenti is seeking redress for the discrimination she has experienced and calls on the LPS to change their policies and procedures to better accommodate transgender persons.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://twitter.com/CruxDatum/status/1649499769600102400

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Just saw this.  She never mentioned the cop feeling her up before...where did this come from?  Why now?  This is obviously a complete lie that just recently was invented.

[benjipwns]

The Ten Stages of Genocide
Stage 1  - Classification. People are registered as Republicans in most states, many Republicans are publicly identified by media as Republicans, many others are falsely accused of being Republicans or being allied with Republicans.
Stage 2  - Symbolization. Entire states and regions are colored "red" (like blood) to represent how many Republicans live in those areas.
Stage 3 -  Discrimination. *endless list of businesses and others targeted for being Republican*
Stage 4 - Dehumanization. *endless examples of rhetoric like the above saying Republicans should have no rights*
Stage 5 - Organization. The Democratic Party and multiple media outlets spend billions every year on spreading anti-Republican messages and engaging in anti-Republican efforts.
Stage 6 - Polarisation. See above.
Stage 7 - Preparation. The Obama Administration argued to the Supreme Court that it had the power to outlaw speech that favored Republicans, most Democrats today believe Citizens United should be overturned. (The Obama Administration also argued that it could murder any American citizen without trial after murdering two American citizens without trial. No Administration since has disclaimed this power.)
Stage 8 - Persecution. See above, Congressional baseball shooter, January 6th prosecutions, Trump prosecutions, social media full of hate speech against Republicans, lots of targeted media and state operations against Republicans they accuse of crimes, etc.
<<WE ARE HERE, IN BETWEEN STAGES 8 AND 9>>
Stage 9 - Extermination. The end goal. The openly stated plan of all the rhetoric around "smash the fash", "after the revolution", mentions of guillotines, spreading The Big Lie formation of the Paradox of Tolerance, spreading claims of genocide/violence and that WE NEED TO ARM UP AND TAKE ACTION, etc. Endless references to and rhetoric that matches historical regimes that engaged in mass murder and even genocide of citizens.
Stage 10 - Denial. Less than one percent of the world's population believes a Republican Genocide is even happening.

Isn't it disrespectful to survivors of the Holocaust or other genocides to refer to what's happening to Republicans as a genocide?
No. I'll point out that you don't need to kill anyone for it to be a genocide. It's enough that you do terrible non-murder things to them, as long as your intent is to destroy the whole group.

[Thirty-Ought-Six]

Finally my sexism is putting me on the right side of history.

The argument against transgender women in sports is based on the idea that "men's sports" and "women's sports" are just convenient titles, not principled rules. Women can and do play with men on the PGA tour. Women can play in the NFL. If a woman was as good as Michael Jordan she would for sure play in the NBA. We call it "men's sports", but it's really open to everyone. The title is not literal, so we shouldn't expect that "women's sports" is literal either. It could be a convenient way to refer to sports for people born with a sex-based biological athletic disadvantage that doesn't apply to transgender women.

However, this argument doesn't hold. As a sexist, I remember that UCLA abolished their highly successful men's swimming and diving program, as well as men's gymnastics, but kept the women's programs. This supposedly created "equality" because the male swimmers and gymnasts could simply join the school football team if they wanted to continue participating in sports. The argument for this brand of "equality" requires that "men's sports" and "women's sports" are not merely convenient titles, but are distinct entities that must be equalized by cutting "men's sports" to balance out the football/basketball programs. You can't argue for cutting the men's swimming and gymnastic teams so that only women have a team and simultaneously argue for excluding transgender women from that team.

I have a nightmare that the transgender community may one day reach out to JK Rowling and admit that "birthing people" could be a dehumanizing term (just as they deem many terms to be hurtful to themselves) and that maybe putting rapists in prison cells with women might not be a flawless plan. Rowling in turn admits that in the bewildering heat of the discourse she may have said hurtful things as well. The transgender community declares that they actually loved Harry Potter the whole time and they embrace in solidarity against their common foe (me). I wake up in a cold sweat and quickly browse Resetera to reassure myself that this will never happen.