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« Reply #2520 on: February 21, 2023, 07:10:56 PM »
https://twitter.com/TIME/status/1628126915818037248

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« Reply #2521 on: February 22, 2023, 02:09:28 AM »
twitter.com/TIME/status/1628126915818037248
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In the spring of 2021, Annalena Baerbock became an unlikely candidate to lead Germany’s chancellery election after experiencing a huge surge in popularity ahead of the vote held in September of that year. But after she pledged to block a gas pipeline project between Russia and Europe, the Greens party candidate became the target of a vicious campaign on social media.

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Her high approval rate quickly plummeted and Baerbock eventually lost the election, coming in third place.

Studies conducted by the German Marshall Fund and the Institute of Strategic Dialogue eventually found that Baerbock had been hit by an especially high amount of disinformation from Russian state-backed sources. Bild, a tabloid in Germany, wrote that NATO specialists even believed that “Moscow [had] pressed the anti-Baerbock button.”
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But Lucina Di Meco, co-founder of the online campaign, “#ShePersisted,” said that Baerbock’s example also revealed two other phenomena at play, which she has written about in a new study called “Monetizing Misogyny.” Not only does gendered disinformation lead to the backsliding of women’s rights and democracy as a whole, but the study also found that gendered disinformation becomes a national security threat when foreign actors use it to exploit divisions in society.

Although the term “gendered disinformation” doesn’t have a standard definition, Di Meco, a leading gender equality expert, has described it as the spread of deceptive or inaccurate information or images used against women in public life. A study conducted by Demos in 2020 noted that gendered disinformation isn’t just false information—it also uses “highly emotive and value-laden content to try to undermine its targets,” and ”seeks impact primarily at the political level, though can also cause serious harm at the personal level,”
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These findings are a direct result of the combination of desk research, some very targeted social media monitoring of posts including the names of women leaders on Twitter and Facebook, and numerous interviews with local women’s rights activists, women in politics and digital monitoring experts.

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Importantly, this study also builds on learnings from #ShePersisted’s previous work, including the many digital resilience workshops, trainings and indepth conversations carried out over the last three years with dozens of brave women in politics and political activists from over 50 countries around the globe.5 Despite the hate campaigns, online abuse and threats, they persist and refuse to be silenced. This study - and our work - finds inspiration in their courage, resilience and commitment to protect democracy.
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Just to be clear, there are absolutely zero pieces of data or any figures offered in this "study" and the bulk of the citations are self-referential or nonsense. Despite the news articles focus on these locations, the "study" does not contain any case studies from the U.S., U.K. or Germany.

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« Reply #2522 on: February 22, 2023, 08:13:28 PM »
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« Reply #2523 on: February 24, 2023, 01:21:19 PM »
How did meat eaters become worse than vegans

https://twitter.com/ZeroSuitCamus/status/1629123893590982656

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« Reply #2524 on: February 24, 2023, 02:00:27 PM »
I noticed this trend of online people eating entire sticks of butter and raw meat.
This one chick, Melanie Mac had all these Tweets about eating butter and egg shit and then she ended up in the ER dehydrated because she forgot to drink water for 3 days. :dead

They also seem to forget the part that food has to be tasty and well prepared and you can't just stuff your face full of meat.
Say what you will about Rogan, when he talks about seasoning his Elk meat and throwing it on the grill with some veggies on the side it sounds like he actually knows what he's doing.

Now Jorp air frying his steak is an entirely different matter  :snoop
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« Reply #2525 on: February 24, 2023, 04:09:33 PM »
How did meat eaters become worse than vegans

https://twitter.com/ZeroSuitCamus/status/1629123893590982656
Isn't the whole "carnivore" thing meant to be about going all primal and shit? So, why does that guy sound like a little bitch?
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« Reply #2527 on: February 25, 2023, 06:34:34 AM »
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« Reply #2528 on: February 25, 2023, 08:29:38 AM »
How did meat eaters become worse than vegans

https://twitter.com/ZeroSuitCamus/status/1629123893590982656
Isn't the whole "carnivore" thing meant to be about going all primal and shit? So, why does that guy sound like a little bitch?

Because of all the soy he used to consume :hulk
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« Reply #2529 on: February 25, 2023, 08:44:29 AM »
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« Reply #2531 on: February 25, 2023, 02:17:00 PM »
A dude I know posts anti vegan memes on fb. They're funny. But one time it was so anti vegetable it bordered on ridiculous. I said "vegetables are good. It's all about balance, man" and he told me how vegetables are toxic and unhealthy and all you need is meat and eggs to live. Guy just had a kid and I pray he doesn't die from a heart attack before 40.
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« Reply #2532 on: February 25, 2023, 03:18:15 PM »
A dude I know posts anti vegan memes on fb. They're funny. But one time it was so anti vegetable it bordered on ridiculous. I said "vegetables are good. It's all about balance, man" and he told me how vegetables are toxic and unhealthy and all you need is meat and eggs to live. Guy just had a kid and I pray he doesn't die from a heart attack before 40.
I'd be more concerned about the kid being fed some stupid diet that harms their development. Like those morons that insist their dogs are vegan.
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« Reply #2533 on: February 25, 2023, 05:17:54 PM »
A dude I know posts anti vegan memes on fb. They're funny. But one time it was so anti vegetable it bordered on ridiculous. I said "vegetables are good. It's all about balance, man" and he told me how vegetables are toxic and unhealthy and all you need is meat and eggs to live. Guy just had a kid and I pray he doesn't die from a heart attack before 40.
I'd be more concerned about the kid being fed some stupid diet that harms their development. Like those morons that insist their dogs are vegan.

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« Reply #2534 on: February 25, 2023, 05:28:31 PM »
https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/crime/parents-sentenced-over-neglect-of-child-on-veganonly-diet/news-story/68bedf9fd1b86a2e04864c27349233d2


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A Sydney couple who had their three children taken away from them when police found their 20-month-old girl was severely malnourished and suffering from rickets after being fed on a strict vegan diet have avoided jail over the neglect of their child.
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« Reply #2535 on: February 25, 2023, 06:27:49 PM »
Give that baby a steak!

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« Reply #2536 on: February 25, 2023, 07:33:07 PM »
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« Reply #2538 on: February 26, 2023, 02:41:43 AM »
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« Reply #2539 on: February 26, 2023, 01:59:55 PM »
https://twitter.com/ScreenSlate/status/1629882978875711493

Interesting argument but barely anyone is reading books these days, I'm not sure the extra effort of editing them is worth it.
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« Reply #2540 on: February 26, 2023, 02:18:18 PM »
Looks like Penguin Random House's marketing strategy worked

https://www.smh.com.au/culture/books/roald-dahl-books-rush-to-top-of-australian-bestseller-lists-ahead-of-edits-20230225-p5cnk8.html
guns and ammo manufacturers were doing something similar through obummer's entire presidency. I remember the goofy rednecks in my platoon always rushing out to buy stuff they said was going to be banned or whatever and it never happened. then trumpy took over and banned bump stocks  :trumps
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« Reply #2541 on: February 26, 2023, 04:32:49 PM »


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« Reply #2542 on: February 26, 2023, 05:28:28 PM »
Looks like Penguin Random House's marketing strategy worked

https://www.smh.com.au/culture/books/roald-dahl-books-rush-to-top-of-australian-bestseller-lists-ahead-of-edits-20230225-p5cnk8.html
guns and ammo manufacturers were doing something similar through obummer's entire presidency. I remember the goofy rednecks in my platoon always rushing out to buy stuff they said was going to be banned or whatever and it never happened. then trumpy took over and banned bump stocks  :trumps
I remember those days. It was so difficult to get ammunition here, even for popular calibres like .243, .270 and .308, because the crazy rednecks were buying everything that could be produced.
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« Reply #2543 on: February 26, 2023, 07:25:53 PM »
Looks like Penguin Random House's marketing strategy worked

https://www.smh.com.au/culture/books/roald-dahl-books-rush-to-top-of-australian-bestseller-lists-ahead-of-edits-20230225-p5cnk8.html
guns and ammo manufacturers were doing something similar through obummer's entire presidency. I remember the goofy rednecks in my platoon always rushing out to buy stuff they said was going to be banned or whatever and it never happened. then trumpy took over and banned bump stocks  :trumps
I remember those days. It was so difficult to get ammunition here, even for popular calibres like .243, .270 and .308, because the crazy rednecks were buying everything that could be produced.
thought guns were illegal in straya to begin with, mate  :auscry
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« Reply #2544 on: February 26, 2023, 07:31:01 PM »
Who said anything about his guns being legal? :joker
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« Reply #2545 on: February 26, 2023, 07:56:57 PM »
Looks like Penguin Random House's marketing strategy worked

https://www.smh.com.au/culture/books/roald-dahl-books-rush-to-top-of-australian-bestseller-lists-ahead-of-edits-20230225-p5cnk8.html
guns and ammo manufacturers were doing something similar through obummer's entire presidency. I remember the goofy rednecks in my platoon always rushing out to buy stuff they said was going to be banned or whatever and it never happened. then trumpy took over and banned bump stocks  :trumps
I remember those days. It was so difficult to get ammunition here, even for popular calibres like .243, .270 and .308, because the crazy rednecks were buying everything that could be produced.
thought guns were illegal in straya to begin with, mate  :auscry
Only semi-autos and pump actions are banned. Handguns can only be used at pistol clubs.
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« Reply #2546 on: February 26, 2023, 08:55:30 PM »
This whole article is just  :gamergate :reeeee :aloy :social2 :social :birb

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-27/harry-styles-concerts-marvel-stadium-accessibility-chloe-hayden/102025124

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Heartbreak High actor Chloé Hayden has accused staff at Melbourne's Docklands Stadium of "ableism and discrimination" during the Harry Styles concerts at the weekend.

Posting to social media, Hayden told Instagram followers she had been made aware of "countless incidents" involving "both neurodivergent and physically disabled folk" at the stadium.

It comes after Hayden told followers stadium staff had made her feel unwelcome when she attempted to access the venue's sensory room.

The 25-year-old, who is autistic and has ADHD, said she later received more than 50 messages from people "who were denied access and support, humiliated and hurt thanks to Marvel Stadium's ableism and discrimination".

The actor said she had compiled various accounts of "poor experiences" during the concerts in an email to send to the stadium's management, with the stories leaving her "beyond devastated".

"[The incidents include stadium staff] telling disabled people they would have to leave because they didn't have any accessible areas, disabled lifts being broken, autistic people being forced to show diagnostic papers and being laughed at for asking for help," she said on Instagram.

"Enough is goddamn enough.

"I am doing everything in my power to fix this. Emails are being sent, conversations are being had, I am ensuring change is being made."

"I am so gutted that we still have to fight this fight. That our right to exist in public spaces is still up for debate.

"Change needs to happen and it needs to happen now."

Docklands Stadium's sensory room, which is located on the third floor, includes a bubble wall, activity panels, weighted lap pads, fidget tools and bags with noise-cancelling headphones.

The venue's website says the room can be used without reservation and resources can be hired free of charge.

"Marvel Stadium's vision of creating an accessible and inclusive environment for all its fans has reached new heights with the creation and development of Melbourne's first stadium sensory room," the website says.

It says staff have been trained by "leading medical professionals on how to recognise those guests and fans with sensory needs and how to handle a sensory overload situation".

'No assistance for people too fat to walk'

Hayden asked Instagram followers who went to the stadium to share their experiences with her.

One follower, who described having a panic attack and "then a full blown meltdown", said she asked a staff member at the stadium where the sensory room was located.

"The staff member just looked me up and down and simply said, 'That's not a real panic attack,'" the Instagram user said.

Another, who described themselves as "physically disabled", said they asked a staff member if there was lift access from the third level of the stadium.

"I can't walk for long periods and the queues to the lift were insane," the social media user said.

"I was rudely told that if I was unable to walk down the ramp then I shouldn't have got tickets and that they had no assistance available for people 'too fat to walk'.

"It was appalling just how insensitive the staff were."

"Staff not knowing where accessible bathrooms are and sending us on a wild goose chase!! Not good enough," another person posted.

Stadium apologies for 'hurt and inconvenience' ahead of meeting with actress

Posting to Twitter, Hayden told followers staff at the stadium had arranged to meet with her on Monday.

In a statement, stadium spokesperson Jay Allen apologised for the "hurt and inconvenience" and said he was "extremely disappointed" to hear fans could not access the sensory room.

"Staff immediately made contact and have organised a time to openly discuss and better understand what happened so we can rectify it and make any appropriate changes to ensure it doesn't happen again," he said.

Mr Allen said the stadium is proud to provide a "safe and welcoming space for ... the many people [who] accessed it over the weekend during both concerts".

"While we sometimes experience capacity issues at major events, we still aim to provide a positive and caring experience for all patrons needing to find a quiet place."

Jim Mullan, CEO of Amaze, a peak body for Victorians with autism, told ABC Radio Melbourne preventing Hayden from accessing the sensory room showed a lack of understanding of neurodivergent conditions.

"It's absolutely essential that the people minding these facilities have an awareness and understanding of autism and can empathise and can understand that," he said.

"This is not people just looking to get out the way of the concert, this is an essential part of the provision there at Marvel Stadium."

Hayden rose to prominence playing autistic character "Quinni" Gallagher-Jones in Australian Netflix series Heartbreak High.

Some 100,000 fans packed the stadium for the British singer's two performances across Friday and Saturday night.

https://twitter.com/chloeshayden/status/1629748664217534464?

LOL, imagine expecting 8000+ spaces in a sensory room in a 50,000 seat stadium.

Fuck off idiots. The rest of the world is not obliged to cater to your self-diagnosed bullshit.

Don't go to concerts at big stadiums if you can't handle crowded places full of noise.

Indulging these people is the root of the problem.
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« Reply #2547 on: February 26, 2023, 09:39:49 PM »
Four pupils have been suspended from a West Yorkshire secondary school after a copy of the Quran was damaged by students.

Wednesday's incident at Wakefield's Kettlethorpe High School happened when a copy of the Islamic text was brought in by a Year 10 pupil.

Head teacher Tudor Griffiths said the book remained intact and there was "no malicious intent" from those involved.

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While at the school it sustained a slight tear to the cover and smears of dirt on some of the pages.


 :nsfw DAMAGED QURAN INSIDE :nsfw

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« Reply #2548 on: February 26, 2023, 09:47:41 PM »
Four pupils have been suspended from a West Yorkshire secondary school after a copy of the Quran was damaged by students.

Wednesday's incident at Wakefield's Kettlethorpe High School happened when a copy of the Islamic text was brought in by a Year 10 pupil.

Head teacher Tudor Griffiths said the book remained intact and there was "no malicious intent" from those involved.

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While at the school it sustained a slight tear to the cover and smears of dirt on some of the pages.
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 :nsfw DAMAGED QURAN INSIDE :nsfw

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What's he going to do? Storm the school and start beheading people?
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« Reply #2549 on: February 26, 2023, 11:06:06 PM »
At an after-school program for a DOE school's Gay Straight Alliance club, Elliott went through a series of Nintendo characters and ascribed to the fictional video game characters a variety of sexuality and gender identities.

"So the GSA for the school that I teach at decided to do a PowerPoint night, and I decided to combine two of my favorite interests into one. This is dubiously assigning genders and sexualities to classic Nintendo characters," she said.

"Yoshi is a trans man. He is just living his best life with Berto, and his top surgery turned out amazing. No scars whatsoever. We love that for him," she said. "Of course, that means that Berto is an ace trans girl."

"No surprises with Peach. She is a massive cis lesbian… Whenever she's around Daisy, she just completely forgets how to speak."

"We've got Daisy [who is] hella bisexual, polyamorous... and she will ask your girlfriend out right in front of you."

"Mario… came out so long ago that most people forgot and he probably marched at Stonewall and he low-key says some transphobic stuff, but he means well."

"Next up is Luigi. Luigi is totally a demisexual dude, but he just calls himself queer because it's like too confusing. He has big bi-wife energy. Trans? Trans. And it's probably bisexual, but like, idoesn't think about it too much because if you don't think about it, it's not a problem," the teacher said.

"Toad is obviously a pre-transitioned trans girl. She already has a whole new wardrobe with thigh highs and skirts for when she comes out."

Elliott told Fox News Digital that "the slides you mentioned were created in jest for the sake of humor. It's also strange to point out that they have genders and sexualities, as being a cisgender heterosexual man is in fact a gender and sexual orientation."

She continued, "As part of my DOE employment, despite being primarily hired as an English Teacher, teaching our established and vetted sex education curriculum was not only something I was hired for, it was something I was trained and qualified in."

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"And the fact of the matter is, this is not a conversation that conservatives are having at all. They've decided… like, you can't do this at all, there's no place for it. And that just shows such a lack of thought and care. They're not understanding of the people. They're children as people and where they're at."
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« Reply #2550 on: February 26, 2023, 11:47:04 PM »
It's one thing to teach kids about gender identities, it's a whole other bucket when you dress it up in fanfic Tumblr smut language  :kobeyuck

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« Reply #2551 on: February 26, 2023, 11:56:58 PM »
Every time I’ve thrown a red shell, I’ve been committing a hate crime  :existential

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« Reply #2552 on: February 27, 2023, 02:38:52 AM »
New idiocy alert in the annals of how to blame others for your own problems

https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/lateral-violence-explained-how-to-deal-with-its-many-forms/f6s54whcp

What is lateral violence and how do we deal with its many forms?

Experts in the field identify that colonial violence is at the root of it all. Let's have a yarn about it.

It’s something that can affect our people deeply. From their mental and physical well-being to their sense of self, spirit and identity.

Lateral violence is commonly described as infighting between people from the same group who have historically been oppressed.

Paakantji woman, Dr Theoni Whyman, has investigated lateral violence and its effects throughout her academic career.

"It can look like gossiping, or sabotaging or undermining somebody else's work," she said.

"In my research, another kind of way that people identify that it shows up is when other Indigenous people are kind of tearing somebody else's Indigenous identity down."

Other examples can include both verbal and non-verbal gestures, spreading rumours, shaming, backstabbing, organisational conflict, isolation and exclusion, as well as physical violence and bullying online.

Trying to survive colonial violence

For the Head of the Department of Indigenous studies at Macquarie University, Professor Bronwyn Carlson, the spotlight is put on the wrong party.

"Instead of turning on and looking at other Aboriginal people and bringing each other down, we need to turn it back on the government, and remember who the actual oppressor here is and who's making these things possible for us to be denied,” she said.

"Lateral violence is us trying to survive colonial violence.”

Dr Whyman elaborates.

"The settler colonisers that came here enforced their idea of who is 'a true Indigenous person' was and then marked everybody against that," she said.

"They marked mob as a half-blood or a quantum or you know, you had one-sixteenth heritage and they kind of defined who an Indigenous person was so that they could reduce us.

You are not seen as Indigenous enough

"[They] reinforced this idea that there we're less Indigenous people and that we were a dying race. We've kind of adopted those settler colonial ideas, probably unknowingly, of who an Indigenous person is.

“Some of the systems that settler colonisers set up here, like rounding us up and putting us on missions, and restricting our access to resources. And then telling people that they're not truly Indigenous if they didn't fit their stereotype of who an Indigenous person is."

"That's where the names come from like city black or coconut, you are not seen as Indigenous enough."
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« Reply #2553 on: February 27, 2023, 04:11:53 AM »
When will the violence be diagonal?
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« Reply #2554 on: February 27, 2023, 05:14:06 AM »
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verbal and non-verbal gestures, spreading rumours, shaming, backstabbing, organisational conflict, isolation and exclusion, as well as physical violence and bullying online.

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« Reply #2555 on: February 27, 2023, 05:18:44 AM »
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Mr Akbar said he had been told the book had been taken to school as a dare by a pupil who lost while playing a Call of Duty videogame with other students.
Press F for the Quran :salute
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« Reply #2557 on: February 27, 2023, 01:56:27 PM »
My goal is to get a wife like that but she also brings home at least $70k a year from her day job

Edit: An inheritance/trust fund is a reasonable substitution
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« Reply #2560 on: February 27, 2023, 03:54:16 PM »
https://twitter.com/JebraFaushay/status/1630036432143147008

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« Reply #2561 on: February 27, 2023, 04:31:24 PM »
https://twitter.com/JebraFaushay/status/1630036432143147008
No one is triggered by house wives. This is just weirdo fetish shit for dudes, more aggrievement for the aggrievement gods. If you want to be a house wife, do it. If you want to work, do it. Nobody cares.

Goes back to the performative outrage thing. It's not good enough that I'm a manly masculine man, I've got to eat raw meat and say vegetables are poison. It's not good enough that I'm a sexually free woman with agency, I've got to twerk at a funeral. It's not good enough that I'm against liberal politics in movies, I've got to put conservative politics in shitty direct-to-DVD movies.  :lol



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« Reply #2562 on: February 27, 2023, 05:07:58 PM »
Can someone explain the "vegetables are toxic/poison" thing? I always feel my healthiest when I eat balanced diet high in veggies and a little meat here and there. I don't get it. Are these people that didn't accept that spinach is delicious or something? Stuff is straight delicious.
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« Reply #2563 on: February 27, 2023, 05:35:26 PM »
A dude I know posts anti vegan memes on fb. They're funny. But one time it was so anti vegetable it bordered on ridiculous. I said "vegetables are good. It's all about balance, man" and he told me how vegetables are toxic and unhealthy and all you need is meat and eggs to live. Guy just had a kid and I pray he doesn't die from a heart attack before 40.

He's gone full Carnivore Diet and now he's posting memes from Carnivore Dad.











I don't get it. Texans and the south eat wayyyyy too much meat and their bodies pay for it. The rice and beans meme in particular is preposterous. No one in their right mind needs to be eat 3 cups of rice and beans a day. You aren't a prime time body builder. I eat rice and beans damn near daily and it's great. Low cal, high in fiber, and keeps you full the entire  night.

In their attempts to own the vegans, a minority of the population, they forget that every day normal people eat vegetables and rice and stuff. All this because of Beyond Burgers, which are just an amalgamation of veggie burgers, something that has existed our entire effing lives.

Texans and southerners love meat and they're fat af. Just because you eat meat doesn't mean you're healthy. What is this?
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« Reply #2564 on: February 27, 2023, 05:48:06 PM »
It's the most baffling shit. Imagine the most masculine man circa...1978. He's gonna want onions and potatoes with his steak right? Yet today there are dudes who would say onions and potatoes are unhealthy or (worse yet) not masculine. Blows my mind.

Imagine the most masculine man circa...1990. When he's outside using the grill, he's prob gonna have some corn or asparagus on there.

This is what happens when there aren't fathers in the home...
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Re: The Culture War Thread
« Reply #2565 on: February 27, 2023, 05:53:55 PM »
Can someone explain the "vegetables are toxic/poison" thing? I always feel my healthiest when I eat balanced diet high in veggies and a little meat here and there. I don't get it. Are these people that didn't accept that spinach is delicious or something? Stuff is straight delicious.

Its the same reactionary culture warrior nonsense.

Being vegetarian 40 years ago was associated with left-wing anti-war hippies who didnt want people dying and didnt want animals dying.

Today it's associated with caring about the climate when its pointed out how bad the cattle industry is for the forests (1st cause of amazon deforestation) plus the warming effects of methane.

Instead of being fucking normal and saying "I should cut back a little" or even being an asshole and saying "I dont care and wont change a bit" they go full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow and say "I will ever eat a vegetable again to spite you"

Meanwhile 95% of us enjoy a wide variety of food. Oven roasted carrots with sea salt is delicious. Vegetable empanadas are delicious. Stir fried rice with veggies are delicious.

If you dont like baked potatoes and corn on the cob you should probably simply kill yourself
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Re: The Culture War Thread
« Reply #2566 on: February 27, 2023, 05:55:41 PM »
Can someone explain the "vegetables are toxic/poison" thing? I always feel my healthiest when I eat balanced diet high in veggies and a little meat here and there. I don't get it. Are these people that didn't accept that spinach is delicious or something? Stuff is straight delicious.
I think it's just a natural evolution of the idiots who say shit like, "You're a vegan? Ok, I'm going to eat TWO steaks then!" and "You are boycotting Hogwarts Legacy? I'll buy two copies then!"
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« Reply #2567 on: February 27, 2023, 05:58:01 PM »
But by doing this you give the vegans power. If you didn't want to give the vegans power you would say "fuck you, I'm not going to change my diet a bit."  Instead you're changing your diet to spite them and it puts more attention on veganism.
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« Reply #2568 on: February 27, 2023, 06:05:09 PM »
But by doing this you give the vegans power. If you didn't want to give the vegans power you would say "fuck you, I'm not going to change my diet a bit."  Instead you're changing your diet to spite them and it puts more attention on veganism.

Why do you think about it as a power thing at all?
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« Reply #2569 on: February 27, 2023, 06:12:29 PM »
I enjoy a well prepared steak. I don't see the benefit of wasting it.
That's why I dislike frozen discount meat too. Sure, it gives the poor people something to eat but it's just a waste of good meat.  :-\

The butter thing is even weirder, butter is something you add to bread or you use to prepare other foods. It's not something you stuff in your face.
I think it's really a matter of people that have ordered McDonalds and Pizza's all their life suddenly turning chad carnivore and having no fucking clue how to prepare food.
Which, honestly, the cavemen could do. Steak can be tricky sure, but in general preparing or cooking simple meals isn't that hard, especially with modern kitchen gear.
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Re: The Culture War Thread
« Reply #2570 on: February 27, 2023, 06:13:40 PM »
For Benji
https://compactmag.com/article/wokeness-is-here-to-stay

The king of communists argues identity politics is preventing the lower class from organizing.  :doge
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Re: The Culture War Thread
« Reply #2571 on: February 27, 2023, 06:13:58 PM »
But by doing this you give the vegans power. If you didn't want to give the vegans power you would say "fuck you, I'm not going to change my diet a bit."  Instead you're changing your diet to spite them and it puts more attention on veganism.

Why do you think about it as a power thing at all?

Because the carnivore people clearly do. They think vegans are taking over the world and trying to make us all vegans and outlaw meat.

Could you imagine living on this diet? Oops! Can't eat Chinese because they mixed broccoli with my beef. Oops! Can't eat Mexican because the taco is on a corn tortilla.
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« Reply #2572 on: February 27, 2023, 06:32:17 PM »
My biggest criticisms of the carnivore diet is that it doesn't produce healthy bowel movements. How can you take a mighty shit if all you consume in your diet are animal products? You got to put some fiber and greens in there. And when you don't take a shit you keep all of the negativity, all the bad energy of life inside of you. It's very bad for your mental and physical health.

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« Reply #2573 on: February 27, 2023, 09:18:11 PM »
New idiocy alert in the annals of how to blame others for your own problems

https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/lateral-violence-explained-how-to-deal-with-its-many-forms/f6s54whcp
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What is lateral violence and how do we deal with its many forms?

Experts in the field identify that colonial violence is at the root of it all. Let's have a yarn about it.

It’s something that can affect our people deeply. From their mental and physical well-being to their sense of self, spirit and identity.

Lateral violence is commonly described as infighting between people from the same group who have historically been oppressed.

Paakantji woman, Dr Theoni Whyman, has investigated lateral violence and its effects throughout her academic career.

"It can look like gossiping, or sabotaging or undermining somebody else's work," she said.

"In my research, another kind of way that people identify that it shows up is when other Indigenous people are kind of tearing somebody else's Indigenous identity down."

Other examples can include both verbal and non-verbal gestures, spreading rumours, shaming, backstabbing, organisational conflict, isolation and exclusion, as well as physical violence and bullying online.

Trying to survive colonial violence

For the Head of the Department of Indigenous studies at Macquarie University, Professor Bronwyn Carlson, the spotlight is put on the wrong party.

"Instead of turning on and looking at other Aboriginal people and bringing each other down, we need to turn it back on the government, and remember who the actual oppressor here is and who's making these things possible for us to be denied,” she said.

"Lateral violence is us trying to survive colonial violence.”

Dr Whyman elaborates.

"The settler colonisers that came here enforced their idea of who is 'a true Indigenous person' was and then marked everybody against that," she said.
I really don't understand how these people don't realize that creating a fictitious past for people is erasing them.

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« Reply #2574 on: February 27, 2023, 10:07:49 PM »
New idiocy alert in the annals of how to blame others for your own problems

https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/lateral-violence-explained-how-to-deal-with-its-many-forms/f6s54whcp
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What is lateral violence and how do we deal with its many forms?

Experts in the field identify that colonial violence is at the root of it all. Let's have a yarn about it.

It’s something that can affect our people deeply. From their mental and physical well-being to their sense of self, spirit and identity.

Lateral violence is commonly described as infighting between people from the same group who have historically been oppressed.

Paakantji woman, Dr Theoni Whyman, has investigated lateral violence and its effects throughout her academic career.

"It can look like gossiping, or sabotaging or undermining somebody else's work," she said.

"In my research, another kind of way that people identify that it shows up is when other Indigenous people are kind of tearing somebody else's Indigenous identity down."

Other examples can include both verbal and non-verbal gestures, spreading rumours, shaming, backstabbing, organisational conflict, isolation and exclusion, as well as physical violence and bullying online.

Trying to survive colonial violence

For the Head of the Department of Indigenous studies at Macquarie University, Professor Bronwyn Carlson, the spotlight is put on the wrong party.

"Instead of turning on and looking at other Aboriginal people and bringing each other down, we need to turn it back on the government, and remember who the actual oppressor here is and who's making these things possible for us to be denied,” she said.

"Lateral violence is us trying to survive colonial violence.”

Dr Whyman elaborates.

"The settler colonisers that came here enforced their idea of who is 'a true Indigenous person' was and then marked everybody against that," she said.
I really don't understand how these people don't realize that creating a fictitious past for people is erasing them.
Meanwhile, the biggest cause of actual violence (bilateral? vertical? horizontal?) against Aboriginal people in Australia is other Aboriginal people...most often their own family members.

What we've done to the indigenous people of Australia is fucking disgraceful, but blaming white people for everything has not solved anything and has made things worse for them individually and collectively.

Edit: One of our recent such erasures is claiming that, what has clearly been one of the most successful hunter gatherer societies ever to live on the earth, with a complex history, mythology and natural knowledge of the environment, was actually a civilization that lived in large permanent cities with cultivation.

This is ostensibly claimed by a man who has tenuous claims to Aboriginality himself and next to no archaeological or anthropological evidence whatsoever.

However, to even argue against these academically dubious claims, which would most likely result in a failing grade if submitted by an undergraduate, risks social and academic exclusion and ostracism.
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Re: The Culture War Thread
« Reply #2575 on: February 27, 2023, 10:10:05 PM »
For Benji
https://compactmag.com/article/wokeness-is-here-to-stay

The king of communists argues identity politics is preventing the lower class from organizing.  :doge
Still reading this one, but I do love Zizek's way with cutting an arguement down.

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Psychoanalysis has a clear answer to this paradox: the notion of superego. Superego is a cruel and insatiable agency that bombards me with impossible demands and mocks my failed attempts to meet them. It is the agency in the eyes of which I am all the more guilty, the more I try to suppress my “sinful” strivings. The old cynical Stalinist motto about the accused at the show trials who professed their innocence—“The more they are innocent, the more they deserve to be shot”—is superego at its purest.

“You must strive eternally to understand the experiences of black people / You can never understand what it is to be black, and if you think you do, you’re a racist.” In short, you must but you can’t, because you shouldn’t—the greatest sin is to do what you should strive for…This convoluted structure of an injunction, which is fulfilled when we fail to meet it, accounts for the paradox of superego. As Freud noted, the more we obey the superego commandment, the guiltier we feel. The paradox also holds in the Lacanian reading of the superego as an injunction to enjoy: Enjoyment is an impossible-real, we can’t ever fully attain it, and this failure makes us feel guilty.


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This superego structure, then, explains how and why, in the Telluride case, the majority and the institutional big Other were both terrorized by the woke minority. All of them were exposed to a superego pressure that is far from an authentic call to justice. The black woke elite is fully aware it won’t achieve its declared goal of diminishing black oppression—and it doesn’t even want that. What they really want is what they are achieving: a position of moral authority from which they may terrorize all others, without effectively changing social relations of domination.

Please post this on Resetera. I NEED to see nep nep seethe and declare Zizek persona non grata...again
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« Reply #2576 on: February 27, 2023, 10:21:11 PM »
Zizek has been against identity politics for a while, he's always been a decent critic of the left. He's less good at critiquing things he doesn't understand. (Unless the person chooses to not read any Marx before their debate about Marx.)

There's a lot of Marxists who make the same argument about this and they have going back to at least the 1960's (there's earlier currents but they were more specific) because Marxism doesn't allow you to divide the classes nor set them against each other internally. Marxism specifically denies that there are any disputes within classes, everyone within a class operates purely to advance that class even if they think they are doing something else. Identity politics, cultural Marxism, literary theory, wokeness, etc. all reject this theory and instead believe that everything is a war of everyone against everyone which isn't really Marxist even though they frame all of it within a Marxist lens of saying there's only two classes: oppressor and oppressed. About the only thing they all agree on is that a white cishet male is always an oppressor.

The main power of Marxism within these groups is that when, inevitably, there's conflict among them they resolve it by appealing to solidarity against the real problem that causes and is the only source of all problems among the oppressed: capitalism.

Their solution of course is to establish a system in which everything literally is decided solely by political power and there's no alternatives.
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« Reply #2577 on: February 27, 2023, 10:28:56 PM »
No one is triggered by house wives. This is just weirdo fetish shit for dudes, more aggrievement for the aggrievement gods. If you want to be a house wife, do it. If you want to work, do it. Nobody cares.
https://twitter.com/allahliker/status/1630290211912531978
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« Reply #2579 on: February 27, 2023, 10:34:53 PM »
Zizek has been against identity politics for a while, he's always been a decent critic of the left. He's less good at critiquing things he doesn't understand.

Like economics  :doge
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