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« on: April 25, 2022, 04:32:17 PM »
Thankfully there is an open source alternative: Mastodon
Global social networks should not be owned by individuals, corporations or governments.

Mastodon just got an Android version 5 days ago:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.joinmastodon.android&gl=US

For those of us who don't use Google accounts, download Aurora Store using F-Droid and then open the link above with Aurora Store.
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2022, 04:46:48 PM »
Can't abandon it if you've never bothered to engage with it.
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2022, 04:50:25 PM »
It took me 7 years to crawl my way up to 207 followers I'm not leaving the like mine any time soon
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2022, 04:53:05 PM »
Global social networks should not be owned by individuals, corporations or governments.
So who are you imagining owning them?

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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2022, 04:58:03 PM »
Ideally, nobody.
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2022, 05:05:01 PM »
Can't abandon it if you've never bothered to engage with it.

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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2022, 05:09:44 PM »
Thankfully there is an open source alternative: Mastodon

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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2022, 05:11:43 PM »
Some more info regarding Mastodon:
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/mastodon-the-open-source-alternative-to-twitter-now-has-an-official-android-app-8383101.html

It's still rather small compared to Twitter (4.4 million users versus Twitter's 217 million), but I assume Twitters new ownership may cause a few people to give it a try.
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2022, 05:13:44 PM »
Some more info regarding Mastodon:
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/mastodon-the-open-source-alternative-to-twitter-now-has-an-official-android-app-8383101.html

It's still rather small compared to Twitter (4.4 million users versus Twitter's 217 million), but I assume Twitters new ownership may cause a few people to give it a try.

I can see a few trying it and then going right back to Twitter.  It's not going anywhere.
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2022, 05:15:16 PM »
Discord is trending right now (at least on my feed) as the suggested alternative to Twitter.

LOL- that's not going to work at all for most folks.
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2022, 05:21:55 PM »
Is there something a bit like Mastodon but not for neckbeards?
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2022, 05:32:38 PM »
Thankfully there is an open source alternative: Mastodon

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Signal (messenger) started out small, too. When I started using it about 5 years ago, I was the only one among my contacts who had it, now about half do (including virtually all of my friends and family). Last year, Signal reached 40 million monthly active users.
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2022, 05:35:31 PM »
Discord is trending right now

The fucking lengths shosta will go to holy shit
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2022, 05:43:25 PM »
Abandon centralised social media platforms.

It's time to go back to message boards.

Imagine letting billionaires/China/"the algorithm" police what you can and can't post.
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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2022, 05:53:11 PM »
It's been long past time. I bailed two years ago when the writing on the wall couldn't get anymore obvious.

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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2022, 06:01:37 PM »
Abandon centralised social media platforms.

It's time to go back to message boards.

Imagine letting billionaires/China/"the algorithm" police what you can and can't post.

Mastodon is decentralized. It seems to be the largest open source alternative to twitter at present.
If there are better alternatives, I wouldn't mind checking them out.
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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2022, 06:03:20 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2022, 06:23:48 PM »
Interesting, Vice reports Mastodon's website went down today because of the increased interest. They are also recommending it as "The most obvious Twitter replacement".
https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjbqjd/if-you-want-to-leave-twitter-because-of-elon-musk-these-are-your-options
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« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2022, 06:34:04 PM »
This reaction from the blue tick twatteratti and their sycophants is fucking hilarious. The place is a cesspool BECAUSE of the blue tick wankers. Grow the fuck up you manchildren.
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« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2022, 06:45:01 PM »
I've come to the conclusion social media is a net loss for humanity and we're better off without it.  :donot :whatisthis

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« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2022, 06:53:57 PM »
Mastodon is actually good in concept in terms of protecting free speech because it's decentralized

when Gab went to Mastodon there was nothing anyone could do to stop them, other than some of the bigger nodes blocking them to try to cordon them off, because anyone can spin up their own server and join the fediverse

it's social media where you can only get banned from your chosen entry node and its particular moderators

if it started seeing more broad adoption you would see all kinds of smaller narrow interest nodes of varying purposes and beliefs, there'd be the Marvel fan instance and the Star Wars fan instance and the Joe Rogan fan instance, not unlike subreddits, but without admins over all

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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2022, 07:16:00 PM »
I knew fucking disney was involved somehow
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« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2022, 08:09:45 PM »
https://twitter.com/AnandWrites/status/1518681666633486341

While I donít disagree with that... is she aware that Twitter was already at service of plutocrats? Is just that Musk is an outright twitter addict and shit poster rather than indifferent of his product.

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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2022, 10:12:46 PM »
Mastodon is actually good in concept in terms of protecting free speech because it's decentralized

when Gab went to Mastodon there was nothing anyone could do to stop them, other than some of the bigger nodes blocking them to try to cordon them off, because anyone can spin up their own server and join the fediverse

it's social media where you can only get banned from your chosen entry node and its particular moderators

if it started seeing more broad adoption you would see all kinds of smaller narrow interest nodes of varying purposes and beliefs, there'd be the Marvel fan instance and the Star Wars fan instance and the Joe Rogan fan instance, not unlike subreddits, but without admins over all

:rejoice
I've been reading this is bad because it doesn't allow Mutual Aid Requests and things like #TransCrowFund to trend meaning that marginalized people will not even be able to live now that Musk has destroyed Twitter.

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« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2022, 10:37:34 PM »
meme man bought the asylum

I've come to the conclusion social media is a net loss for humanity and we're better off without it.  :donot :whatisthis

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« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2022, 11:38:12 PM »
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« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2022, 12:26:49 AM »
There is no benefit in allowing destructive lies to be repeated on a large stage over and over again. This just allows them to infect more minds which in turn paves the way for a fascist takeover. And fascists invariably do away with your freedom of speech completely the first chance they get, because it's the only way they can retain control.
Democracy and uncontested lies can't coexist, as Trumpism should have made abundantly clear to anyone paying attention.
By pretending that lies are a valid opinion (the other side of reality and just as acceptable), the American media enabled Trump and everything that follows. Reality does not have two sides.
Twitter's banning Trump and for instance those who spread misinformation about vaccines (which results in actual deaths) was a belated step in the right direction that is seemingly about to be undone.

Musk now graduates from infantile trolling to actually being harmful to the free world, enabling (would be) autocrats everywhere. Musk is no genius, he has never invented anything in his life. He just repackages inventions of others and markets them. He is a savvy businessman.
Musk's lithium battery powered cars are a net negative for the environment. Furthermore, there is not enough lithium on the planet to replace all combustion powered personal transportation. The actual way to go are hydrogen fuel cells. Not realizing this makes Musk an idiot in his heart of hearts.
Musk basically is a stupid person's idea of a genius, much like Trump is a stupid person's idea of a rich man. Everything about him and his past is based on misrepresentation, from his fake hair to the origin of his money (his father's African emerald mines). And no, he didn't invent Paypal, either. When you think about it, it's really not surprising Musk is so fond of liars. And make no mistake, he couldn't care less about free speech. On Twitter, he regularly blocked critics. He just wants unfettered speech for himself.
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« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2022, 12:50:53 AM »
There is no benefit in allowing destructive lies to be repeated on a large stage over and over again. This just allows them to infect more minds which in turn paves the way for a fascist takeover. And fascists invariably do away with your freedom of speech completely the first chance they get, because it's the only way they can retain control.
Democracy and uncontested lies can't coexist, as Trumpism should have made abundantly clear to anyone paying attention.
It's simple. We, uh, kill the Batman outlaw lies.

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« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2022, 05:40:56 AM »
ďThere is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.Ē

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« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2022, 07:29:00 AM »
Man there was a time I used to really respect Jack Dorsey. Those days are long gone.


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« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2022, 08:08:17 AM »
Another invasion no one wanted to believe would happen.
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« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2022, 08:09:11 AM »
What if Evilore's mercurial, petty management of GAF but global ?
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« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2022, 08:59:29 AM »
people who have made it their business to have every Hot Take of the last decade intravenously fed to them now telling the rest of us that we need to get off an eternal garbage site that we do our very best to ignore is wonderful.

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« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2022, 10:18:28 AM »
I wish nintex was here to grace us with his take on this :fbm

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« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2022, 01:41:26 PM »
The entier bore userbase moved to mastadon, you did it occam


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« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2022, 02:33:53 PM »
Great success, world saved!

(I was one of those approx. 41,287. While I wasn't a Twitter user, I felt the need to cast my vote against Musk.)
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« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2022, 02:38:08 PM »
You donít even use the platform and youíre trying to rally people to leave it?  :era

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« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2022, 02:51:08 PM »
Why would I? Twitter is a cesspool. That doesn't mean I don't see its importance as a global tool of communication that is used by most politicians/states/companies/organizations/institutions/scientists/celebrities and so on. It's practically impossible to avoid if you read the news.
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« Reply #44 on: April 26, 2022, 03:05:59 PM »
Half of forum content is basically posting tweets you can't escape it
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« Reply #45 on: April 26, 2022, 03:09:02 PM »
Half of forum content is basically posting tweets you can't escape it

Not since Nintex left.  This place actually loads now without jumping place after a few seconds. 
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« Reply #46 on: April 26, 2022, 03:20:36 PM »
Why would I? Twitter is a cesspool. That doesn't mean I don't see its importance as a global tool of communication that is used by most politicians/states/companies/organizations/institutions/scientists/celebrities and so on. It's practically impossible to avoid if you read the news.

I just donít understand your dog in this fight.  If you donít have an account, I donít either, Elon Musk buying Twitter should mean almost nothing to you.  Is it probably going to turn out to be a net negative, yea probably.  But just like Facebook trying to force people off the platform as an outsider is a waste of time.  Shouting into the void that is thebore.com and the entirely unaffiliated bore discord, I assume, just feels disingenuous at best and :ego at worst.

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« Reply #47 on: April 26, 2022, 03:22:23 PM »
Half of forum content is basically posting tweets you can't escape it

I only post text I steal from discords

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« Reply #48 on: April 26, 2022, 04:31:23 PM »
I just don’t understand your dog in this fight.

Too much right-wing authoritarianism/reality denial in this world as it is. No need to enable any more of it to further hasten the destruction of our habitat, curtail freedom and erode democracy.
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« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2022, 04:41:12 PM »
I just donít understand your dog in this fight.

Too much right-wing authoritarianism/reality denial in this world as it is. No need to enable any more of it to further hasten the destruction of our habitat, curtail freedom and erode democracy.
Yeah, imagine if someone were to tweet any criticism of an invasion without Congressional approval of a sovereign nation in order to permanently occupy their natural resources. :existential

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« Reply #50 on: April 26, 2022, 05:03:03 PM »
Has anyone posted this thread in the shitbin thread? This seems like something that belongs there.
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« Reply #51 on: April 26, 2022, 05:29:02 PM »
The world is how you make it.
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« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2022, 05:55:36 PM »
Has anyone posted this thread in the shitbin thread? This seems like something that belongs there.
You sound like a butthurt freeze peach chud angry that everyone is leaving Muskrat's Folly.

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« Reply #53 on: April 26, 2022, 06:21:57 PM »
Has anyone posted this thread in the shitbin thread? This seems like something that belongs there.
You sound like a butthurt freeze peach chud angry that everyone is leaving Muskrat's Folly.
My butt hurts, but it's probably the hemorrhoids.
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« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2022, 06:42:27 PM »
The world is how you make it.

this is at odds:

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By pretending that lies are a valid opinion (the other side of reality and just as acceptable), the American media enabled Trump and everything that follows. Reality does not have two sides.

either the world is what it is and facts are unchanging regardless of what we want, or our desires are able to shape reality and change what is true
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« Reply #55 on: April 26, 2022, 06:46:24 PM »
Musk haters might be upset now with his purchase of Twitter, but just you wait.  You'll all come back into the fold when Elon brings the MiiVerse back from the dead. 

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« Reply #56 on: April 27, 2022, 01:06:29 AM »
The world is how you make it.

this is at odds:

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By pretending that lies are a valid opinion (the other side of reality and just as acceptable), the American media enabled Trump and everything that follows. Reality does not have two sides.

either the world is what it is and facts are unchanging regardless of what we want, or our desires are able to shape reality and change what is true

Our world is what we make of it. While we cannot change the nature of reality, we obviously have the ability to change our world. We can either make it a great place and live in harmony with nature and each other, or we can allow poison to flow (literally and figuratively) and make the world (more) poisonous.

Which is what is about to happen to Twitter thanks to an obscene manchild who couldn't take criticism.
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« Reply #59 on: April 27, 2022, 02:23:33 AM »
And probably at least half of that 42k are still on Twitter.