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7/10? Dude.... :(
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What? The only thing that I can compare it to are maybe westerns, and I've seen so many westerns that kick the shit out of Seven Samurai.
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Himu basically confirmed my beliefs about this. Lots of exaggerated "acting", boring sword play, and dull lines.

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The fights in Seven Samurai are pretty boring. It's more about character development, but the movie has trouble establishing characters aside from a select few. Like, for instance, only 3 or 4 of the seven samurai really get development at all. The movie feels as if it wastes so much time and energy other things like a stupid taco farmer who's wife got taken by bandits and an idiot taco farmer who goes batshit if a samurai is givin' his daughter a dick creamin', rather than the thing the movie is titled after: the seven fucking samurai.

Often when characters die in the movie, I had to rewind it because they all looked the same. That goes to show you how well the movie established characters. "KATASHAMINASUKO-SANNNNNNN NOOOOOOO!" and I'm like,"Who died again? They used his name in the movie like two times."
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Fights = boring? Dude, the final battle sequence is amazing, and one of the most cribbed in the history of cinema.
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Fights = boring? Dude, the final battle sequence is amazing, and one of the most cribbed in the history of cinema.

What are you talking about? He gets shot, runs toward the gunman who's totally pussying out, stabs him, and dies. You call that a gripping last fight? Full Metal Jacket has a gripping final battle. My heart wouldn't stop beating at that scene. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. Now THAT'S  final battle. Seven Samurai ain't shit compared to other movies when it comes to fights.

Now, they had great STRATEGY against the bandits, but the actual swordsman ship was lame.

WOW. I STOLE THESE 2 GUNS FROM THE BANDITS BUT I WON'T USE THEM ONCE. Average fights.
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Often when characters die in the movie, I had to rewind it because they all looked the same.

You fucking racist.  >:(
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Often when characters die in the movie, I had to rewind it because they all looked the same.

You fucking racist.  >:(

It doesn't help they all have the same damn hair cut.
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And it's in black and white, omg
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And it's in black and white, omg

Nothing wrong with that.
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Play along!
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But I've actually seen the movie, and it's pretty good. It's not horrible at all, like you're making it out to be.
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WOW. I STOLE THESE 2 GUNS FROM THE BANDITS BUT I WON'T USE THEM ONCE. Average fights.

... Jesus fuck.

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Himuro is wrong and PD is predictably tasteless. Seven Samurai is grade A sex throughout. Its the least boring almost-4 hour film youll ever see. Not a second is wasted. Not to mention that it set the mold for pretty much every adventure/action movie since.

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Himuro is wrong and PD is predictably tasteless. Seven Samurai is grade A sex throughout. Its the least boring almost-4 hour film youll ever see. Not a second is wasted. Not to mention that it set the mold for pretty much every adventure/action movie since.
QFT. The theatrical acting is probably it only fault but that is understandable for that time.



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Chubkins Shake, now that you're back, what's your take on the celebrated Pee Dee review of Unforgiven?
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what the fuck at this thread.

You haters! There would be no Leone westerns nor star wars without Kurosawa!

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Tonight I am probably going to watch Seven Samurai for the first time.
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You haters! There would be no Leone westerns nor star wars without Kurosawa!

So? Just because it was influential then doesn't mean I have to think it's that great.

Seven Samurai is grade A sex throughout. Its the least boring almost-4 hour film youll ever see.

While this may be true, I think Return of the King did a great job.
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You haters! There would be no Leone westerns nor star wars without Kurosawa!

So? Just because it was influential then doesn't mean I have to think it's that great.

Seven Samurai is grade A sex throughout. Its the least boring almost-4 hour film youll ever see.

While this may be true, I think Return of the King did a great job.
watch the hidden fortress, I bet you'd like it based on your complaints. It's a much shorter, "lighter" story. And its basically the same exact plot of Star Wars Episode IV.

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Star Wars IV is pretty average though.

Seven Samurai's length wasn't a complaint at all. Lighter story? Why would I want a lighter story? That had nothing to do with any of my complaints. My biggest complaint is that the movie doesn't let you get to know the seven samurai that are titled after the movie aside from a few. That and the acting. Those are the only two glaring flaws I find that the movie has. It has great pacing, and the characters that WERE featured in the film were great, but they weren't enough.
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After reading this I have to say I admire the film more. I thought Kurosawa was using better film than that, and when you consider that many  of his camera shots and angles were pretty damn good you have to hand it to him.

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When watching "Seven Samurai," one must remember two things: The first is that Asian cinema has been at a great disadvantage to their western counterparts. At a time when Asia was still trying to come out of the shadow of World War II, America and other Western powers were already a dominant force in world cinema. The Asians had a hard time trying to find the balance between art and social commentary and simple entertainment.

 

The second thing to keep in mind is that before 1990 -- and even to a point after 1990 -- a lot of Asian films were shot on terrible filmstock. Many films were actually using filmstock that were dozens of years old. This usually resorted in grainy pictures and scratches on the film. Filmmaking was an expensive venture and required a lot of time and dedication, not to mention money. Which leads me to this conclusion: I cringe every time I see "Seven Samurai," because the filmstock is so bad that it tries its damnedest to destroy Akira Kurosawa's masterpiece. And let's not talk about the quality of film cameras available back then.

"Citizen Kane" is commonly regarded as the greatest movie ever made, especially in light of its time period and the many innovations that Welles pioneered. In that same light, "Seven Samurai" is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, Asian film ever made. Although, as prefaced, its grainy filmstock leaves a lot to be desired. Unlike Welles, Kurosawa had neither the budget nor the technical resources at his disposal to film the movie the way he might have wanted to. Anyone who has seen Kurosawa's later samurai work understands that the man had a great eye for cinematography.
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ya'all need to see Throne of Blood, its amazing.  Some of the best B&W cinematography ever filmed, and possibly the best Shakespere adaption ever made.

(don't hurt me for not seeing Ran yet please, I'm saving it)

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My ratings/rankings of every kurosawa I have seen:

1. Ikiru (10/10)
2. High and Low (10/10)
3. Derusu Uzara (10/10)
4. Rashomon (10/10)
5. Yojimbo (10/10)
6. Seven Samurai (10/10)
7. Sanjuro (9.5/10)
8. The Hidden Fortress (9/10)
9. Ran (9/10)
10.Throne of Blood (9/10)
11. Kagemusha (8.5/10)
12. I Live in Fear: Record of a Living Being (8.5/10)
13. No Regrets for My Youth (7.5/10)
14. Rhapsody in August (7/10)
15. Madadayo (7/10)
16. Sugata Sanshiro (6.5/10)
17. Dodes'ka-den (6/10)

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I'm going to watch Ikiru and Yojimbo in a few minutes.
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I'm going to watch Ikiru and Yojimbo in a few minutes.
Ikiru is amazing, it is not a samurai film. It is a slow lengthy drama about cancer and dealing with death. But it is PERFECT.

Soon as you watch Yojimbo you have to watch Sanjuro. It's a two-part movie.

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The Truman Show.

one of the best movies I've ever seen.

very fucking awesome how they changed it from the script.

overall: 10/10

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how?

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Hyper: Throne IS awesome. On any given day its either Throne, Ran, or Stray Dog as my favorite Kurosawa.

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Spider-Man 3 (Raimi, 2007) - 6.5/10

When I walked out of Spider-Man 2 (all 4 times!) 3 years ago, I was absolutely floored. Not only was that film my favorite superhero movie ever (it still is, and by a landslide), but it left me so excited for the final movie in the trilogy, and the greatness it would hold. I mean, how could they mess this up? The cast and crew was largely the same, as was the writing team, and this was the epic finale to the series. So Spider-Man 3 would be the comic book movie to end all comic book movies, right?

Unfortunately, no, it is not. Irrelevant, inconsequential and unengaging are the three words I would use to describe Spider-Man 3. It is not a bad movie but any stretch, but it simply fails on every level that the original, and especially the sequel, excelled on. Whereas Spider-Man 2 had me hooked from the outset and took me on an epic roller-coaster of emotion and thrills, Spider-Man 3 seemed to just plod around for 2.5 hours, merely existing, occasionally hitting the right note, but mostly just plowing ahead.

What went wrong? Well, there are two big issues with the film. First, let's blame Marvel boss Avi Arad for making director Sam Raimi shoehorn Venom into the film. The movie was already at content overload without his entrance, and with him in the film, there are about five subplots being juggled, and none of them are fully developed or satisfactorily concluded. Had the film been without Venom, his storyline plus the symbiote storyline could have been cut completely, and we would be left with a much leaner film, which could be much more fleshed out. The second issue is the writing. The film is totally bipolar, and has more plot threads that could ever be given room to breathe in 2.5 hours. Alvin Sargeant, who did a re-write of the first film to make it passable, and wrote the excellent screenplay for the second film, seems to have been inexplicably made an outcast, serving only to polish off the Raimi brothers' script, instead of being an integral part of the writing staff from day one. Most of the great touches in Spider-Man 2, which I fully attribute to Sargeant, are sadly missing here.

Up to this point, you may think I hated the film. But the truth is, amongst all the elements I hated about the film, there is still a lot to love here. The cast is in top form here, with the real notable performance coming unexpectedly from James Franco, who I felt excelled as the conflicted Harry Osborn. Tobey Maguire was also as enjoyable as ever in the Peter Parker role. Bruce Campbell's trademark cameo is his best one yet, and totally hilarious. I enjoyed Christopher Young's work on the score, especially his new themes for Sandman and Venom. The main titles once again were excellent, and totally succeeded in ramping up my excitement. The special effects and the action scenes in the film didn't disappoint, and there are several breath-taking set pieces littered throughout the film. Another great element remaining from the previous films is the humour. Spider-Man 3 in particular seems to go for even more laughs than its predecessors, and most of the time the gags work. Finally, I cannot conclude this review without making mention of easily the best scenes in the entire film, the "Saturday Night Fever" montage. Yes, this film features a scene which makes the "Raindrops" scene in Spider-Man 2 look downright tame. Kudos to Sam Raimi for having the balls to put such an extended scene in a major studio motion picture, and even bigger kudos to Tobey Maguire for taking that scene and running with it. I haven't laughed as much in ages as I did last night at Peter Parker strutting his stuff and gyrating his pelvis in downtown New York.

Spider-Man 3 is totally entertaining, if wholly unengaging and vastly inferior to its predecessor. The film simply tries to be too much, and accomplish too much in 2.5 hour running time. It saddens me to see a trilogy I love dearly, one that hit such highs, go out on such a middle-of-the-road note, but such is the case. We'll always have Spider-Man 2.

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The fact that you LIKED the dance segment makes me very sad, very sad indeed.
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Solo, why do you attribute the best parts of 2 to Sargent?  Michael Chabon and a bunch of other writers worked on the Spider-Man 2 script.  How do you distinguish his contributions from everyone else's?
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The fact that you LIKED the dance segment makes me very sad, very sad indeed.
What was wrong with it? It was one of the best moments of the trilogy, period. Disco Peter (NOT EMO!) was perfection.

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Solo, why do you attribute the best parts of 2 to Sargent?  Michael Chabon and a bunch of other writers worked on the Spider-Man 2 script.  How do you distinguish his contributions from everyone else's?

Everytime Ive seen a writer praised for S-M2, be it a fellow crew member, or Raimi, or the media, they alwaus name Sargeant. I know Chabon worked on it, but not to much of an extent I think, and S-M2's greatness SURE AS HELL ain't a product of Gough and Millar. Ive seen Smallville enough times to know these guys cant write. So process of elimination plus what Ive been led to believe equals me believing Sargeant is to praise.

The fact that you LIKED the dance segment makes me very sad, very sad indeed.

Are you kidding me? That whole segment, from the strut to the thrusting to the flirting with cake girl to the dance scene was perfection. Easily my favorite part about the film, and my favorite scene this year so far. Things like that make me love Sam.


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It's nigh UNWATCHABLE for people going into the movie without knowing.  I'm sorry, but it's just embarrassing seing that unfold–Evil Spidey shouldn't have been a party animal, he should've been a fucking pariah.  You know, where people start ousting him, going against him–the whole public, not just Mary-Jane.  That whole Saturday Night Fever shit makes him look like a freakin' comedian.  I know that Sam likes to put some comedy into his movies, and I enjoyed the parts of Spider-man 2 where it was evident.  But this was "holy christ make it stop" worthy.  It was boring, it was embarrassing, and it was sad.
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Its almost like they let the B-team take over while the A-team chilled in the Bahamas. Im talking all the way down the line here, too. Everything from the costume design (Harry's Goblin comes instantly to mind) to the music (I dont even like Elfman, yet this film made me miss him) and especially to the effects (the CG was worse than S-M2's in points) and REALLY for the action sequences (despite having about 10, there wasnt a single action scene in 3 to match the train scene in 2) was sub-par. The only times the film felt Raimi-esque to me were the disco-Peter/flirting/strutting scenes, and some of the Marko stuff.

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It's nigh UNWATCHABLE for people going into the movie without knowing.  I'm sorry, but it's just embarrassing seing that unfold–Evil Spidey shouldn't have been a party animal, he should've been a fucking pariah.  You know, where people start ousting him, going against him–the whole public, not just Mary-Jane.  That whole Saturday Night Fever shit makes him look like a freakin' comedian.  I know that Sam likes to put some comedy into his movies, and I enjoyed the parts of Spider-man 2 where it was evident.  But this was "holy christ make it stop" worthy.  It was boring, it was embarrassing, and it was sad.
But he wasn't EVIL spider-man. The suit did not make him evil or emo. It made him overly-confident. Thus the flirting with Betty and Cake Girl..etc

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spiderman 1 had most of the writing bearable because it didn't try any emo crap that falls on it's face.  2 was horrible in terms of writing because the characters were boring, predictable, and you wondered if anybody hated them since they were in a blockbuster.  It really took one up the ass for the studios and destroyed any hope of a decent movie in the spiderman franchise for me.

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Your ass is like fine wine. That shit is turning to vinegar.

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why, the dialogue was good?  are you saying there was something else in the story that the writer you like wrote but was completely cut out?

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Im saying you just praised a David Koepp screenplay and blasted a superior one, and that there truely is no hope for you.

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Can you tell me more about Marvel's pres forcing Raimi to put Venom in to the film? I never heard of that announcement.
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did any of you guys ever saw sideways?

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I didn't praise the screenplay...

I said it was a good movie idea but the way they changed it from the screenplay was amazing.

I could get into detail if you want but what would you say I've just said wrong?

I saw sideways, it's a pretty fun movie to watch cause Giotti pulled off the wine-freak well but it was a little too unoriginal to be a great movie.

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Can you tell me more about Marvel's pres forcing Raimi to put Venom in to the film? I never heard of that announcement.

Sam loves the classic villains, and has said so since S-M1 commenced. Sam hates the newer ones, like Venom, and has said so since S-M1 commenced, as well as saying he would never do a Venom movie. All of a sudden we get Venom in S-M3. Turns out this was Avi Arad meddling, who forced both Venom and Gwen Stacey into the film. Sam just wanted Harry and Sandman, which would have effectively cut out half the plot threads, and made for a much simpler, and better film (more time to fully develop characters, resolve everything, etc). I mean look at 1 and 2, both of which were deceptively simple and wildly successful.

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Can you tell me more about Marvel's pres forcing Raimi to put Venom in to the film? I never heard of that announcement.

Sam loves the classic villains, and has said so since S-M1 commenced. Sam hates the newer ones, like Venom, and has said so since S-M1 commenced, as well as saying he would never do a Venom movie. All of a sudden we get Venom in S-M3. Turns out this was Avi Arad meddling, who forced both Venom and Gwen Stacey into the film. Sam just wanted Harry and Sandman, which would have effectively cut out half the plot threads, and made for a much simpler, and better film (more time to fully develop characters, resolve everything, etc). I mean look at 1 and 2, both of which were deceptively simple and wildly successful.
Sam even admitted it in a interview. He said Arad told him to include more characters "the fans" wanted like gwen and venom.

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Blood Diamond (Zwick, 2006) - 8/10

A manipulative movie, with a lot of creative liberties taken, but continuously engaging nonetheless, and anchored by a solid lead performance. Yep, sounds like an Edward Zwick film to me. Keeping up with his tradition of making fairly Hollywood films about fairly non-Hollywood topics of controversy, Zwick delivers his most compelling work since Glory. Blood Diamond tells two tales: one about the world of conflict diamonds, in which human life has little value, and one about real characters with real flaws, which is ultimately a redemption story. The latter is infinitely more intriguing. I've never had a problem with Zwick as a director on the technical side of things, and that trend holds here. The film is well made, and Zwick knows how to shoot everything from bombastic action scenes to simple character moments. James Newton Howard's score is very nice, if totally unmemorable. The cinematography is fantastic, as are the sets and costumes. In other words, the film really delivers on the visual side of things. The script seems pretty standard for this type of film, but there is a bit of beathing room in it, and it occasionally hits the viewer with some hilarious, totally unexpected laughs. What really elevates the film a few notches though are the performances, and namely the one delivered by Leonardo Dicaprio. 2006 really was the year of Leo, and after seeing this film, I believe the Academy nominated him for the correct movie. Everything from his accent to his look to his mannerisms just clicked perfectly for me, and it is really refeshing to finally see DiCaprio as a man instead of a teen heart throb. His work alone is worth seeing the film for, and his performance is really the heart and soul of the movie. Blood Diamond is an average film on paper, elevated on the silver screen by some nice direction, great visuals, several genuinely emotional scenes, and a stellar lead performance.

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I agree with that review. But was I the only person who got tired of the constant "everything's quiet...BOOM ACTION OUT OF NOWHERE SCENE" stuff? It seemed relevent the first time, but after awhile it got annoying.

Leo Departed>Leo BD. Both were great, but his emotional performance as a paranoid, scared undercover cop sealed it for me. At the beginning of the movie he's in full confidence mode, but as the movie progresses he slowly unravels and becomes a nervous wreck. When all seems won and he once again resorts to confident mode, well...we know what happens. He truly looks scared shitless, and if you look closely you can see him twitching. A very convincing performance.

His performance in BD is amazing too, and really makes me wish he was
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Blood Diamond (Zwick, 2006) - 8/10

A manipulative movie, with a lot of creative liberties taken, but continuously engaging nonetheless, and anchored by a solid lead performance. Yep, sounds like an Edward Zwick film to me. Keeping up with his tradition of making fairly Hollywood films about fairly non-Hollywood topics of controversy, Zwick delivers his most compelling work since Glory. Blood Diamond tells two tales: one about the world of conflict diamonds, in which human life has little value, and one about real characters with real flaws, which is ultimately a redemption story. The latter is infinitely more intriguing. I've never had a problem with Zwick as a director on the technical side of things, and that trend holds here. The film is well made, and Zwick knows how to shoot everything from bombastic action scenes to simple character moments. James Newton Howard's score is very nice, if totally unmemorable. The cinematography is fantastic, as are the sets and costumes. In other words, the film really delivers on the visual side of things. The script seems pretty standard for this type of film, but there is a bit of beathing room in it, and it occasionally hits the viewer with some hilarious, totally unexpected laughs. What really elevates the film a few notches though are the performances, and namely the one delivered by Leonardo Dicaprio. 2006 really was the year of Leo, and after seeing this film, I believe the Academy nominated him for the correct movie. Everything from his accent to his look to his mannerisms just clicked perfectly for me, and it is really refeshing to finally see DiCaprio as a man instead of a teen heart throb. His work alone is worth seeing the film for, and his performance is really the heart and soul of the movie. Blood Diamond is an average film on paper, elevated on the silver screen by some nice direction, great visuals, several genuinely emotional scenes, and a stellar lead performance.

I think I gave it a 7/10, mainly because there were some cliche moments in the film. Overall, it was a good film though, and I definitely love DiCaprio in this film.
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Children Of Men (Cuaron, 2006) - 9.5/10

I already did the long-winded, gushing review during the film's theatrical run, so this one will be brief. Still my favorite film of 2006, and possibly the best movie Cuaron will ever make. I don't particularly care if it isn't totally faithful to the source, as I've never read the book, and find the movie to stand quite wonderfully on its own. As for the DVD, the transfer is everything I'd hoped it would be for such a beautiful film. The image quality is immaculate. Great DVD, excellent film, and highly recommended.

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Alfonso Cuarón is fantastic. I can't wait to see what he does next.

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What if what he wants to do is...you?  :o
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What if what he wants to do is...you?  :o
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What if what he wants to do is...you?  :o
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Cheebs, I have a secret to tell you.  My name is Alfonso Cuaron.  :-*
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