Corona Thread |OT| Nu variant, who dis?

[thisismyusername]

Do you guys, like, have people in your lives above the age of 60 that you care about?  I don't know, the elderly people in my life never struck me as a bunch of selfish, resource-hoarding cunts.  Maybe I got lucky.

Sure. But if I was their age, I'd probably want to die as well.

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I'm half their age and want to die. So take me with a biased mountain of sea-salt.

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[Propagandhim]

It's a pretty unpleasant death

 

[Pissy F Benny]

Shockingly the supermarkets was full of olds earlier

[thisismyusername]

It's a pretty unpleasant death

 

Not all deaths can be pretty.

Choking to death versus a car crash or plane crash is preferrable. Though dying in your sleep is still the best.

Edit: Oh shit, this wasn't meant to be top of the page. My suicidal idealization isn't meant to top of page.

[Potato]

Had a long and stern chat with my parents earlier about staying at home and not socialising. I think the message has penetrated.

[Nintex]

called my folks to tell them I wasn't coming over to visit today.

They understand it but my mom was pretty sad. It's especially difficult for her because all the mental/medical help she gets is also cancelled.
Luckily they are sort of staying at home types anyway, so I don't have to worry about them heading outside unless it's necessary.

[Nintex]

The beach town where I live is being barricaded to the joy of its citizens.

Not my picture, I'm #stayinginside

[VomKriege]

Air liaisons between Metropolitan France and her overseas territories to be suspended soon. Healthcare infrastructure is obviously much lighter over there.

[james]

Nintex I don't know what that is but it is certainly not a beach

[toku]

He's dutch. You gotta just go with whatever he says. Nod and be polite.

[VomKriege]

https://imgur.com/r/ShitPostCrusaders/AJK2wmz

[toku]

https://twitter.com/lokinhei/status/1241220936906338304

[Madrun Badrun]

That seems really counter-intuitive given the massive amount of effort China has done to contain this thing. 

[VomKriege]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/coronavirus-testing-iceland

We might learn something from intensive testing of a relatively small population on an island.

[shosta]

We have a faster growth rate than other countries.

[VomKriege]

It's hard to know what to do with testing numbers it's still too early and narrow a data set. Should we consider per capita, since France, UK, Germany, Italy and Spain are within a similar ballpark in population ? Does it make sense for the US or should we consider states separately ? The US is... 5 times the population of France or Italy so it wouldn't be a surprise there's that many more positive cases if we assume the virus propagated evenly (which we don't know yet, but I guess the answer will only come many months from now...).

Obviously not good news.

[Madrun Badrun]

How to do counting of something like this is hard and going to be a cottage industry of bio-stats people for years.  Its not just the population size of the US that makes it exceptional, the weak national hospital system and the relatively weak federal government, so comparisons with other countries will be very difficult.   

[shosta]

Just want to write what 33% growth looks like here for the next two weeks if everything remains the same. Note that I don't think we get that far that fast because shelter in place has gone into effect coast to coast...

SUN 3/22 - 27,465
MON 3/23 - 36,621
TUES 3/24 - 48,827
WED 3/25 - 65,086
THUR 3/26 - 86,760
FRI 3/27 - 116K
SAT 3/28 - 154K
SUN 3/29 - 206K
MON 3/30 - 274K
TUES 3/31 - 366K
WED 4/1 - 487K
THUR 4/2 - 650K
FRI 4/3 - 866K
SAT 4/4 - 1.155M

Obviously it's not over even if we do get it under control because there will inevitably be another outbreak.

[ToxicAdam]

That seems really counter-intuitive given the massive amount of effort China has done to contain this thing. 

How do you know anything for certain about what is happening in China? Where’s the reliable reporting coming from?

[Madrun Badrun]

That was somewhat of my point.  We do know for a fact that they have implemented extreme measures so it would be very strange for them to stop testing now.

[VomKriege]

That seems really counter-intuitive given the massive amount of effort China has done to contain this thing. 

How do you know anything for certain about what is happening in China? Where’s the reliable reporting coming from?

We can't, but the fact that the curve in positive cases match well with what is happening elsewhere -and Hubei population is very similar to France or Italy- (even if it's more of a representation of test capacity getting online and the proportion of severe cases working their way into hospitals) do point at the information being provided to be on some level accurate (remember when tinfoil hats said the stats were fake because they followed a quadratic growth or something ?).

I suspect and hope we'll see some correlation once lockdown effects start registering.

I don't think it's in China's interest to not cooperate in international health or have Western capital and clients decimated. I'm going to assume good faith in this matter or at least truthful if only partial data being shared.

There's suspicions that Russia is just pretending the problem doesn't exist and possibly excess mortality being passed off as pneumonia.

[shosta]

https://mobile.twitter.com/weeaboo/status/1241555854446518272

[VomKriege]

https://mobile.twitter.com/weeaboo/status/1241555854446518272

It's OUR souls that make the magic !
It's OUR coffee they drink in the morning !

[OnlyRegret]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/coronavirus-testing-iceland

We might learn something from intensive testing of a relatively small population on an island.

Bodes well for true mortality % corroborated by other examples like the cruise ship.
Bodes poorly for containment.
 

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We have a faster growth rate than other countries.

Why bother with graphs, your testing has been non-existent up until late.

[toku]

stay up guys, it's early days

[Tripon]

https://mobile.twitter.com/weeaboo/status/1241555854446518272

It's OUR souls that make the magic !
It's OUR coffee they drink in the morning !

I thought it was some guy reading some airbnb post in an over dramatic voice. It's real!?

[EchoRin]

I thought it was some guy reading some airbnb post in an over dramatic voice. It's real!?

Going by all the replies in the thread when I was reading it in the middle of the night... undecided.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/TwinklingTania/status/1241749731308531712

[toku]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1241766068332515329

 

[OnlyRegret]

overly long lockdowns won't work and are a poor substitute for good planning and healthcare
peeps gonna riot due to 0 money and government bailing out the banks 4 times in a row

[Pissy F Benny]

Ngl I’m looking forward to the looting 

[shosta]

I just realized that even with a lockdown, Italy still has exponential growth in cases.

[D3RANG3D]

I'm sure you have seen the videos of people in Italy partying right?

[OnlyRegret]

I'm sure you have seen the videos of people in Italy partying right?

Where?

[shosta]

No but it wouldn't surprise me.

[toku]

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1241717551819902977

[thisismyusername]

#Czechit.

[Madrun Badrun]

Holy shit

[OnlyRegret]

italeave
periphery euros gonna be testy

[VomKriege]

I just realized that even with a lockdown, Italy still has exponential growth in cases.

It's still too early to expect an effect. Things should hopefully slow down next week.

I'm sure you have seen the videos of people in Italy partying right?

I can't speak for Italy but in France examples of people not respecting lockdown guidelines are distorted by media attention (and there's a shaming element to it). Yes it happens. Yes there's some people "fleeing" to the countryside which is stupid and counterproductive. Yes there's grey areas (like the Paris open air markets). But overall, my anecdotal opinion -and keep in mind I'm out everyday to work, I take transports, I go to shops- is that activity outside is orders of magnitude less than usual. Public transport stats confirm this. The goal of the lockdown is to dramatically limit the opportunities for infection on a national scale and globally this is what happens. I'm sure Italians are the same, all the more with the horrific number of fatalities. But there's no accounting for inconsiderate bellends anywhere, of course.

[OnlyRegret]

It's still too early to expect an effect. Things should hopefully slow down next week.

With an incubation time of up to a few weeks, plus time from symptom onset to serious illness up to a week.
Lockdown to flatten is gonna lag by a matter of weeks.

[EchoRin]

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1241717551819902977

Fuck off assholes. This is what you get for beating us at the 2006 World Cup. Last time we had a legit team.

[OnlyRegret]

Not the first event either.

I think we need to have a discussion about the cac and his propensity to screw over people near and far.
Could this be a cultural issue? Perhaps it's in their genes. In any case, this merits investigation and should be addressed, they need to be civilized.

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1241727238028046343

[Don Rumata]

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1241717551819902977

Fuck off assholes. This is what you get for beating us at the 2006 World Cup. Last time we had a legit team.

Pooo poroppo poppooo pooo

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Now you must repay us in 7 petabytes of porn.

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[team filler]

https://twitter.com/27khv/status/1241778036988674049

 

[Don Rumata]

Some people seem to have a hard-on for claiming how much of an illusion the EU "dream" is.
I don't get it, are they nostalgic of the centuries of wars Europe used to roll with? 

[EchoRin]

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1241717551819902977

Fuck off assholes. This is what you get for beating us at the 2006 World Cup. Last time we had a legit team.

Pooo poroppo poppooo pooo

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Now you must repay us in 7 petabytes of porn.

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Is it ok if I do it in installments in the NSFW thread?

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/TheTNHoller/status/1241782476504211456

 

[toku]

https://twitter.com/iatemuggles/status/1241512518721376257

my bad was this supposed to be a #mommymonday post? 

[VomKriege]

Merkel in self quarantine after a doctor she had contact with tested positive.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/vandasranda/status/1241690938675773443

[shosta]

Cuomo saying we should nationalize medical supplies 

[Rufus]

Not the first event either.

I think we need to have a discussion about the cac and his propensity to screw over people near and far.
Could this be a cultural issue? Perhaps it's in their genes. In any case, this merits investigation and should be addressed, they need to be civilized.

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1241727238028046343

The masks in Czechia were seized as part of a crackdown on gougers. They only realized later that part of them were aid from China meant for Italy. It's being rectified.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-face-masks-china-italy-czech-republic-latest-a9416711.html

The German seizures are part of an export ban on medical supplies from the 15th. Some shipments meant for other countries go through Germany and are delayed because of this, particularly to EFTA states (Switzerland, chiefly).
Meanwhile, the ban has been lifted.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-exports/germany-lifts-export-ban-on-medical-equipment-over-coronavirus-idUSKBN2162SH
Export to EFTA states has been explicitly authorized:
https://www.efta.int/EEA/news/Exports-equipment-fight-COVID-19-authorised-EU-EEA-EFTA-States-517331

The comission is now scrambling to gather a stockpile to co-ordinate distribution to member states (which is probably why Germany's ban was lifted).
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_20_476

Shit is chaotic right now, alright.

[shosta]

How much did they pay you to write that?

[Rufus]

Man, I wish.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/NHKWORLD_News/status/1241769516012417025

Get ready for Summer Olympics 2021. 

[TakingBackSunday]

yeah no way a 9 month lockdown is tenable.   

[OnlyRegret]

Shit is chaotic right now, alright.

shill

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/TheLoveBel0w/status/1241749227665076224

[OnlyRegret]

Fortunately he confirmed to us it won't stop partying for him.