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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 07:56:13 AM

Title: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 07:56:13 AM
Important stuff
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One friend code per system


 Europe

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While Nintendo has not set a retail price, several retailers confirmed to MCV that they would be charging between £219 and £229 for the 3DS at launch.

 
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Launch Date: March 25,03 2011
    Price: Pricing is determined

    Included in Hardware:
    • Nintendo 3DS system
    • Nintendo 3DS charging cradle
    • Nintendo 3DS AC adapter
    • Nintendo 3DS stylus
    • SD Memory Card (2GB)
    • AR Card(s) (view the cards using the outer cameras to play supported AR games)
    • Quick-Start Guide
    • Operations Manual (including warranty)

    Characteristic Features:
    • 3D screen, enabling 3D view without the need for special glasses and the ability to adjust
    or turn off 3D effect with the 3D Depth Slider.
    • Stereo cameras that enable users to take 3D photos that can be viewed instantly on the 3D
    screen.
    • New input interfaces including the Circle Pad, motion sensor, gyro sensor
    • SpotPass, a feature that lets Nintendo 3DS detect wireless hotspots or wireless LAN access
    points and obtain information, game data, free software, videos and so on for players even
    when the system is in sleep mode.*
    • StreetPass, a feature that lets Nintendo 3DS exchange data automatically with other
    Nintendo 3DS systems within range, even in sleep mode once this feature is activated by
    the user. Data for multiple games can be exchanged simultaneously.
    • Convenient features that users can access without stopping game play such as the HOME
    menu, Internet Brower, Notifications, etc.
    • Plenty of built-in software such as the Nintendo 3DS Camera, Nintendo 3DS Sound, Mii
    Maker, StreetPass, Mii Plaza, AR Games, Activity Log, Face Raiders, etc.
    • Nintendo eShop where users can view trailers, software rankings and purchase software.
    • System Transfer which enable users to transfer already purchased software from one
    Nintendo 3DS system to another. DSiWare purchased for the Nintendo DSi or the Nintendo
    DSi XL can also be transferred into a Nintendo 3DS system.**
    • Compatibility functions where both new software designed for Nintendo 3DS and most
    software for the Nintendo DS family of systems can be played.
    • Parental Controls which enable parents to restrict game

    *Some of these features may not be available at launch
    **There is a limit to how many times transfers can be made. Some software may not be transferred.
    ***Additional features added through system updates may also be subject to Parental Controls.
    Some of these features such as the Internet browser, Nintendo eShop, system transfer and the ability
    to download software and videos using SpotPass will be available after system updates are performed

    _________________________________________

    Size (when closed): 2.9 inches high, 5.3 inches long, 0.8 inches deep.
    Weight: Approximately 8 ounces (including battery pack, stylus, SD memory card).

    Upper Screen:
    Wide-screen LCD display, enabling 3D view without the need for special glasses. Capable of
    displaying approximately 16.77 million colors. 3.53 inches display (3.02 inches wide, 1.81
    inches high) with 800 x 240 pixel resolution. 400 pixels are allocated to each eye to enable 3D
    viewing.

    Lower Screen:
    LCD with a touch screen capable of displaying 16.77 million colors. 3.02 inches (2.42 inches
    wide, 1.81 inches high) with 320 x 240 pixel resolution.

    Cameras:
    One inner camera and two outer cameras. Resolutions are 640 x 480 for each camera. Lens are single focus and uses the CMOS capture element. The active pixel count is approximately 300,000 pixels.

    Wireless Communication:
    2.4 GHz. Enabling local wireless communication among multiple Nintendo 3DS systems for
    game play and StreetPass. Enabling access to the Internet through wireless LAN access points
    (supports IEEE802.11 b/g with the WPA™/WPA2™ security feature). Recommended distance of
    wireless communication is within 98.4 feet. This can be shorter depending on the enviromental
    situation. WPA and WPA2 are marks of the Wi-Fi Alliance.

    Input Controls: Input controls are the following:
    • A/B/X/Y Button, +Control Pad, L/R Button, START/SELECT
    • Circle Pad (enabling 360-degree analog input)
    • Touch screen
    • Embedded microphone
    • Camera
    • Motion sensor
    • Gyro sensor

    Other Input Controls: Other input controls are the following:
    • 3D Depth Slider (enabling smooth adjustment of the 3D level effect)
    • HOME Button (brings up the HOME menu)
    • Wireless switch (can disable wireless functionality even during game play)
    • POWER button

    Connector: Connector includes:
    • Game Card slot
    • SD Card slot
    • Cradle connector
    • AC adapter connector
    • Audio jack (stereo output)





US info,March 27th-$250,the rest should be the same as above,but we shall see after dust settles
Some US info by Mr. Linkzg
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software included:
life meter/graph thing
pedometer for play coins
mii maker
internet browser (!)
video/music player

Face raiders (that face shooter game...like gameboy camera)
AR cards / alternate reality game
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 19, 2011, 08:00:35 AM
They're taking place simultaneously?

That's kinda... scary.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 08:02:39 AM
power of the internet
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 19, 2011, 08:15:32 AM
Yoshi's Touch and Go was pretty cool DCharles, don't hate.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 19, 2011, 08:18:39 AM
I'm hoping for a $300 price tag, for internet hilarity's sake.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 19, 2011, 08:20:48 AM
I'm hoping they go into some detail about the online model.  I like most things about Nintendo except for the archaic online approach. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event
Post by: Diunx on January 19, 2011, 08:25:36 AM
Zzzzz
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 19, 2011, 08:28:58 AM
There are whispers of friend codes, if that turns out to true then I'll continue ignoring multiplayer modes like I did with the DS.

StreetPass and SpotPass aren't enough for me, pimp them to someone else.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 19, 2011, 08:33:54 AM
There are whispers of friend codes, if that turns out to true then I'll continue ignoring multiplayer modes like I did with the DS.

StreetPass and SpotPass aren't enough for me, pimp them to someone else.

There IS some code.  Atm its not known if its just for the system or on a per game basis.  It being on a per game basis would obliterate any curiosity I had with the system.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 08:45:08 AM
EG blog is fun to read
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 19, 2011, 08:55:41 AM
Pilotwings and steel diver look somewhat interesting.  Leave my posts alone!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 08:59:11 AM
Just when i was about to post this
2 minutes till 3pm and still no stream,what a cheap company


Stream is up
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(stream is up)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 09:02:55 AM
he entered with 3d (paper)glasses :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(stream is up)
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 19, 2011, 09:05:13 AM
I have both streams open, but I'm sticking to the US event.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(stream is up)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 09:12:27 AM
Eurosport?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(stream is up)
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2011, 09:13:31 AM
US version comes with 2 gig SD card

yeah, the price will be interesting

edit: and it comes with a charging cradle

yeah, interesting
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(stream is up)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 19, 2011, 09:15:08 AM
Wait a fucking second
Either dcharlie is a mod now or Icons can edit other people's posts?

Not cool evilbore!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(stream is up)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 09:17:16 AM
Shaun the sheep

 :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(stream is up)
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 19, 2011, 09:20:23 AM
I'm definitely gonna take a picture of penis instead of face for my dog to respond, and therefor lick away.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(stream is up)
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2011, 09:22:08 AM
still friend codes, but only one for all games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(stream is up)
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 19, 2011, 09:22:48 AM
You can tell Reggie is trying to resist saying BOOBIES when he introduced DOA lol.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(stream is up)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 09:24:24 AM
raise your hands :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(stream is up)
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2011, 09:25:18 AM
One friend code for all games is acceptable.  I mean, not ideal, but this is Nintendo, so I'll take what I can get here.

I just want an account that my dsi/3ds/wiiware purchases are linked to

one code is better for online, but it's still feels like a decade old.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(stream is up)
Post by: demi on January 19, 2011, 09:26:39 AM
Can someone, maxy, edit OP with notable things... like the one friend code per-game thing, so I can link to friends  who just want the goods
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(stream is up)
Post by: demi on January 19, 2011, 09:28:13 AM
Wait a fucking second
Either dcharlie is a mod now or Icons can edit other people's posts?

Not cool evilbore!

He PayPal'd me for quick editing privs... I didnt care what for.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(stream is up)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 09:29:23 AM
done,will do more when more info is available
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(stream is up)
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2011, 09:29:25 AM
doesn't seem to be announcing launch games, just 'launch window' games, and only saying 30 of them.

software included:
life meter/graph thing
pedometer for play coins
mii maker
internet browser (!)
video/music player

Face raiders (that face shooter game...like gameboy camera)
AR cards / alternate reality game


surprisingly including a lot of stuff with the package.  would be surprised if it is $250!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(one friend code per system!)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 09:33:39 AM
EU,Capcom dude is still blabbing about Street Fighter
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(stream is up)
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 19, 2011, 09:34:12 AM
Ok, sounds like there's going to be a decent friend list feature. I am somewhat pleased.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(one friend code per system!)
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2011, 09:36:16 AM
3DSware is just called E-Shop

has demos (if I understood correctly), virtual console (gameboy, gameboy camera), downloadable games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(one friend code per system!)
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2011, 09:38:02 AM
$250 price confirmed

March 27th release
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(one friend code per system!)
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 19, 2011, 09:38:24 AM
$250?

Sold.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(one friend code per system!)
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2011, 09:40:56 AM
haha I think Ubisoft is making another port of Rayman 2 for the 3DS.  Similar to how DS and 3DS both have Chaos Theory ports.

$250 is surprisingly reasonable since it does include the cradle, sd card, plus those gameboy camera games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(one friend code per system!)
Post by: SantaC on January 19, 2011, 09:41:21 AM
249$

about what I expected. But where is the rumored Metroid footage :/

no new exciting games shown :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(one friend code per system,$250 price)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 09:42:36 AM
EU conference has no cool details just bunch of blah blah

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(one friend code per system!)
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2011, 09:43:47 AM
249$

about what I expected. But where is the rumored Metroid footage :/

no new exciting games shown :(

that rumor started from the john ross twitter and the eu show is still going on

the america one was mostly just price and release.  only new announcement was Lego Star Wars The clone Wars lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(one friend code per system,$250 price)
Post by: iconoclast on January 19, 2011, 09:46:30 AM
$250 isn't too bad. Now all I need is a must-own game like Ouendan or Trauma Center.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(one friend code per system,$250 price)
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 19, 2011, 09:47:16 AM
It would be pretty stupid for something as important as Metroid news to be skipped by Reggie and revealed in the EU feed instead. There is no Metroid 3Ds...(yet?)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(one friend code per system,$250 price)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 09:51:29 AM
EU conf is focused more on games,or blabbing about them at least
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(one friend code per system,$250 price)
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2011, 09:52:57 AM
yeah, I don't think there is a new metroid, but the euro conference is actually something.  The US one was reggie talking for a few minute with videos.  The euro one has Johnathan Ross and the game makers come out on stage.  Plus they announce more Ubisoft ports!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: demi on January 19, 2011, 09:54:22 AM
So basically it's a $250 copy of Ocarina of Time
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: demi on January 19, 2011, 09:58:13 AM
I'm gonna just go buy a used PSP instead... maybe in a year 3DS will be sorted out
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: Diunx on January 19, 2011, 10:01:32 AM
250? I can get a ps3 for that, pass.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: huckleberry on January 19, 2011, 10:01:41 AM
250 is too much.

but Reggie said focus groups would pay 3-400 for such a device with all those features.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: SantaC on January 19, 2011, 10:03:25 AM
ugh i expected some new major games annoucement, but got nothing to be excited over. Comon, would Castlevania 3DS hurt?

Gotta wait for E3  ::)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 10:05:17 AM
Mii

omg
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: ManaByte on January 19, 2011, 10:06:04 AM
Gameboy and Gameboy Color on VC, but no GBA. Fuck you Nintendo.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: SantaC on January 19, 2011, 10:06:41 AM
ugh i expected some new major games annoucement, but got nothing to be excited more. Comon, would Castlevania 3DS hurt?

Gotta wait for E3  ::)

 :lol

I'm pretty sure Konami has a restraining order against IGA.

I forgot that IGA is in Konamis toilet :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: Diunx on January 19, 2011, 10:07:14 AM
:lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2011, 10:12:23 AM
Euro release: March 25th
Euro price: ???

this Japanese guy said it was up to retailers or something

and the uggo blue one is on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-3DS-Blue/dp/B002I090AG/
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 10:12:34 AM
March 25th

wtf at price announcement?

 :rofl
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: SantaC on January 19, 2011, 10:14:22 AM
March 25th

wtf at price announcement?

 :rofl

it's always like that in europe. Different countries has different prices. I think I will import a US one anyway since it is region locked.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2011, 10:14:41 AM
oh shit

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110119006127/en/Nintendo-3DS-Brings-Dimensional-Shift-World-Entertainment

Crush (awesome PSP game) is coming to the 3DS
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: archie4208 on January 19, 2011, 10:15:37 AM
Glad to see the 3DS is taking the title of "port machine" away from the PSP.  Nintendo :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 19, 2011, 10:16:33 AM
oh shit

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110119006127/en/Nintendo-3DS-Brings-Dimensional-Shift-World-Entertainment

Crush (awesome PSP game) is coming to the 3DS

If the 2D/3D crushing mechanic could be somehow triggered solely by the depth slider that would be fucking bad ass.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: demi on January 19, 2011, 10:17:06 AM
Once friends trade hardware codes, at any time they can check their friends list to see which of their friends are online and what they are playing.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 10:17:36 AM
March 25th

wtf at price announcement?

 :rofl

it's always like that in europe. Different countries has different prices. I think I will import a US one anyway since it is region locked.
No shit.But they could at least say UK price,so the rest of us can adjust
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2011, 10:18:29 AM
oh shit

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110119006127/en/Nintendo-3DS-Brings-Dimensional-Shift-World-Entertainment

Crush (awesome PSP game) is coming to the 3DS

If the 2D/3D crushing mechanic could be somehow triggered solely by the depth slider that would be fucking bad ass.

yeah, the effect could be cool in it.

probably won't rebuy it unless there are new levels, but I really liked the PSP game.

also, game prices seem to be $40.  Or amazon just decided to increase the price of their listed 3DS games to $40 just now.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: SantaC on January 19, 2011, 10:19:36 AM
March 25th

wtf at price announcement?

 :rofl

it's always like that in europe. Different countries has different prices. I think I will import a US one anyway since it is region locked.
No shit.But they could at least say UK price,so the rest of us can adjust
meh buying a region locked nintendo console in europe is like the worst deal ever. Forget about playing all the rpgs is all i can say.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 10:29:02 AM
March 25th

wtf at price announcement?

 :rofl

it's always like that in europe. Different countries has different prices. I think I will import a US one anyway since it is region locked.
No shit.But they could at least say UK price,so the rest of us can adjust
meh buying a region locked nintendo console in europe is like the worst deal ever. Forget about playing all the rpgs is all i can say.


Not mentioning EU price,not good...bound to be expensive
We'll see what the retailers say

EG
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HMV has become the the first UK shop to pin a price on the 3DS: £229.99.

Leading UK videogame seller GAME hasn't yet decided what to charge. "We're still working it out - it may not be announced until tomorrow, " a GAME spokesperson told Eurogamer.


Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: Chinner on January 19, 2011, 10:40:19 AM
GAME have set it to £230. So it looks like UK price will be £230.

PASS.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event(one friend code per system,$250 price)
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 19, 2011, 11:10:03 AM
$250 isn't too bad. Now all I need is a must-own game like Ouendan or Trauma Center.

Too bad it would be region-locked.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2011, 11:10:05 AM
there are some cool features with the ds software, like you can go into the menu while playing a game and write down notes. 

$250 isn't too bad. Now all I need is a must-own game like Ouendan or Trauma Center.

Too bad it would be region-locked.

yeah, I was looking at scans of the Gundam 3D battle game and thought about importing it, but I guess not. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: magus on January 19, 2011, 11:26:51 AM
didn't nintendo 64 come packed in with mario kart 64?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 11:30:09 AM
Facts from Nintendo

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    Launch Date: March 25,03 2011
    Price: Pricing is determined

    Included in Hardware:
    • Nintendo 3DS system
    • Nintendo 3DS charging cradle
    • Nintendo 3DS AC adapter
    • Nintendo 3DS stylus
    • SD Memory Card (2GB)
    • AR Card(s) (view the cards using the outer cameras to play supported AR games)
    • Quick-Start Guide
    • Operations Manual (including warranty)

    Characteristic Features:
    • 3D screen, enabling 3D view without the need for special glasses and the ability to adjust
    or turn off 3D effect with the 3D Depth Slider.
    • Stereo cameras that enable users to take 3D photos that can be viewed instantly on the 3D
    screen.
    • New input interfaces including the Circle Pad, motion sensor, gyro sensor
    • SpotPass, a feature that lets Nintendo 3DS detect wireless hotspots or wireless LAN access
    points and obtain information, game data, free software, videos and so on for players even
    when the system is in sleep mode.*
    • StreetPass, a feature that lets Nintendo 3DS exchange data automatically with other
    Nintendo 3DS systems within range, even in sleep mode once this feature is activated by
    the user. Data for multiple games can be exchanged simultaneously.
    • Convenient features that users can access without stopping game play such as the HOME
    menu, Internet Brower, Notifications, etc.
    • Plenty of built-in software such as the Nintendo 3DS Camera, Nintendo 3DS Sound, Mii
    Maker, StreetPass, Mii Plaza, AR Games, Activity Log, Face Raiders, etc.
    • Nintendo eShop where users can view trailers, software rankings and purchase software.
    • System Transfer which enable users to transfer already purchased software from one
    Nintendo 3DS system to another. DSiWare purchased for the Nintendo DSi or the Nintendo
    DSi XL can also be transferred into a Nintendo 3DS system.**
    • Compatibility functions where both new software designed for Nintendo 3DS and most
    software for the Nintendo DS family of systems can be played.
    • Parental Controls which enable parents to restrict game

    *Some of these features may not be available at launch
    **There is a limit to how many times transfers can be made. Some software may not be transferred.
    ***Additional features added through system updates may also be subject to Parental Controls.
    Some of these features such as the Internet browser, Nintendo eShop, system transfer and the ability
    to download software and videos using SpotPass will be available after system updates are performed

    _________________________________________

    Size (when closed): 2.9 inches high, 5.3 inches long, 0.8 inches deep.
    Weight: Approximately 8 ounces (including battery pack, stylus, SD memory card).

    Upper Screen:
    Wide-screen LCD display, enabling 3D view without the need for special glasses. Capable of
    displaying approximately 16.77 million colors. 3.53 inches display (3.02 inches wide, 1.81
    inches high) with 800 x 240 pixel resolution. 400 pixels are allocated to each eye to enable 3D
    viewing.

    Lower Screen:
    LCD with a touch screen capable of displaying 16.77 million colors. 3.02 inches (2.42 inches
    wide, 1.81 inches high) with 320 x 240 pixel resolution.

    Cameras:
    One inner camera and two outer cameras. Resolutions are 640 x 480 for each camera. Lens are single focus and uses the CMOS capture element. The active pixel count is approximately 300,000 pixels.

    Wireless Communication:
    2.4 GHz. Enabling local wireless communication among multiple Nintendo 3DS systems for
    game play and StreetPass. Enabling access to the Internet through wireless LAN access points
    (supports IEEE802.11 b/g with the WPA™/WPA2™ security feature). Recommended distance of
    wireless communication is within 98.4 feet. This can be shorter depending on the enviromental
    situation. WPA and WPA2 are marks of the Wi-Fi Alliance.

    Input Controls: Input controls are the following:
    • A/B/X/Y Button, +Control Pad, L/R Button, START/SELECT
    • Circle Pad (enabling 360-degree analog input)
    • Touch screen
    • Embedded microphone
    • Camera
    • Motion sensor
    • Gyro sensor

    Other Input Controls: Other input controls are the following:
    • 3D Depth Slider (enabling smooth adjustment of the 3D level effect)
    • HOME Button (brings up the HOME menu)
    • Wireless switch (can disable wireless functionality even during game play)
    • POWER button

    Connector: Connector includes:
    • Game Card slot
    • SD Card slot
    • Cradle connector
    • AC adapter connector
    • Audio jack (stereo output)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: magus on January 19, 2011, 11:35:16 AM
HERE IT IS! THE RUMORED METROID FOOTAGE!
spoiler (click to show/hide)
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpQRuIoL4Hs&feature=player_embedded#at=33[/youtube]

they would have banned me for such a joke on gaf :teehee
[close]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: ManaByte on January 19, 2011, 11:37:09 AM
didn't nintendo 64 come packed in with mario kart 64?


No.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: Bebpo on January 19, 2011, 11:45:50 AM
I pre-ordered one because you don't have to pay until ship, so it gives me time to figure out if I want one (and to see if the hack it for region free).

But looking at the launch lineup...ugh.  Nothing I want besides Icarus and maybe Pilotwings if it's as good as the SNES one and not just fueled by nostalgia. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: demi on January 19, 2011, 11:48:18 AM
uh... it aint gonna hacked before launch.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 11:51:20 AM
games

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quwyFp1bKFU&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxuLya-MS2g&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: Bebpo on January 19, 2011, 11:51:27 AM
uh... it aint gonna hacked before launch.

Wasn't the DS?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: Diunx on January 19, 2011, 12:07:43 PM
I can't believe people are willing to pay $40 bucks for the mercenaries mini game smh.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: Bebpo on January 19, 2011, 12:13:23 PM
Yeah, it's pretty silly.  I play that mode a few times after each recent RE and then I'm over it.  Would never buy it separately, even if it was like $15 on XBLA/PSN.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: Trent Dole on January 19, 2011, 12:25:34 PM
Go to hell, Nintendo.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: SantaC on January 19, 2011, 12:37:43 PM
uh... it aint gonna hacked before launch.

Wasn't the DS?

nope, it took them a while, and the first cards were passme crap
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 19, 2011, 12:46:19 PM
I'm gonna get a 3DS day 1, not because I'm interested in the launch (window) games, but because I really need a DS. I've missed out on almost two years worth of DS games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: Raban on January 19, 2011, 12:49:41 PM
Then get a DSi on the cheap.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: magus on January 19, 2011, 12:51:55 PM
I'm gonna get a 3DS day 1, not because I'm interested in the launch (window) games, but because I really need a DS. I've missed out on almost two years worth of DS games.

not sure you missed much unless you like adventure games
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: demi on January 19, 2011, 12:58:26 PM
magus is also jaded. Plenty to play.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2011, 01:10:55 PM
according to destructoid (so rumored, I guess) this is the launch line up:

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* Pilotwings Resort
* Nintendo Dogs + Cats
* Steeldiver
* Dead or Alive
* Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 3D
* Madden NFL
* Super Street Fighter IV 3D
* Asphalt 3D
* Combat of Giants: Dinosaurs 3D
* Ridge Racer 3D
* Resident Evil: The Mercenaries
* LEGO Star Wars III: The Clone Wars

Pilot Wings is the only one I want, but the two maybes are RE Mercs and Ridge Racer.  All three are maybes, to be honest.

Pilot Wings video looks like it could be the boring wii sports resort stuff from videos.  RE Mercs looks off in recent videos; I'm fine with real mercs as a full game since I really liked The Club, but yeah, the videos looked wrong.  Ridge Racer looks worse than the PSP games.

Nintendo doesn't really have any solid looking games for release.  I guess they want to capture the nintendo dogs and wii crowd earlier on, I guess.  Rest of the games are ports or seem rushed.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 19, 2011, 01:11:07 PM
I am going ot get one because I have never seen 3D outside of Universal Studios and Disney World the one time I went, so this is designed for people like me who don't have 3D theatres in the close vicinit (nearest is 4 hours away) so im super fucking pumped. Hope the movies look alright.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 19, 2011, 01:16:30 PM
there are some cool features with the ds software, like you can go into the menu while playing a game and write down notes. 

$250 isn't too bad. Now all I need is a must-own game like Ouendan or Trauma Center.

Too bad it would be region-locked.

yeah, I was looking at scans of the Gundam 3D battle game and thought about importing it, but I guess not. 

That game looks like they took the PSX CCA and Zeta games and threw them on a 3DS cart.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2011, 01:33:43 PM
there are some cool features with the ds software, like you can go into the menu while playing a game and write down notes. 

$250 isn't too bad. Now all I need is a must-own game like Ouendan or Trauma Center.

Too bad it would be region-locked.

yeah, I was looking at scans of the Gundam 3D battle game and thought about importing it, but I guess not. 

That game looks like they took the PSX CCA and Zeta games and threw them on a 3DS cart.

haha I made that same comparison before and it's why I want it.  CCA for PS1 was one of my first import games.  The intro cinematic was incredible.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: Diunx on January 19, 2011, 02:03:50 PM
I am going ot get one because I have never seen 3D outside of Universal Studios and Disney World the one time I went, so this is designed for people like me who don't have 3D theatres in the close vicinit (nearest is 4 hours away) so im super fucking pumped. Hope the movies look alright.

:lol just go to best buy and ask one of the tech guys to give you some 3d glasses to try the TVs dude.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: magus on January 19, 2011, 02:07:30 PM
magus is also jaded. Plenty to play.

true that :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 19, 2011, 02:30:11 PM
Launch sucks.  Will wait for the next version.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: Raban on January 19, 2011, 02:33:31 PM
Launch sucks.  Will wait for the next version.

Smart man.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: Bebpo on January 19, 2011, 03:13:39 PM
Icarus isn't launch?  Wtf
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 03:26:51 PM
It looks like UK price will be about £230
Some retailers give like 4% discount(£220)

Games are £40
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 19, 2011, 03:28:25 PM
Emcee are you buying it at launch instead of your iPod?

Ocarina of time was good man.

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In 1998
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Its kind of hilarious the DS launched with Mario 64 in 2004 and its succesor launches 7 years later in 2011 and its flagship title is another Nintendo 64 remake and the console itself is as expensive as the N64 was  :lol

I think 40 bucks is too much for console games, even though I'm usually not patient enough to wait for the pricedrop.  Its definitely too much for handheld stuff.  Like I've said, portable gaming is only practical for quick play bursts outside of the home, so I'd rather pay for the few cheap apps that have good controls (tilt to live, flight control).  Most of the 3ds stuff that looks cool would play better with a wiimote anyway. Maybe theyll get around to motionplus Pilotwings one day.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,price unknown)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 19, 2011, 03:30:53 PM
HERE IT IS! THE RUMORED METROID FOOTAGE!
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpQRuIoL4Hs&feature=player_embedded#at=33[/youtube]

they would have banned me for such a joke on gaf :teehee
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Holy shit, team ninja just trolled the world. Seriously, FUCK THEM.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 19, 2011, 03:37:06 PM
Shit, Nintendo must be losing barrels of money on this thing right out of the gate.

You really think so? I wonder what's the manufacturing cost of the thing. Can't be $300, right?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 19, 2011, 03:44:32 PM
Shit, Nintendo must be losing barrels of money on this thing right out of the gate.

I'm not sure about that. The dual ARM CPU's are pretty cheap and the GPU they're using is from some Japanese company I've never heard of, I'm sure pricing corners were cut. The display's only 800x240 + 320x240 and the 3D hoohah tech is just a piece of plastic. Twin cheap CMOS cameras...something tells me that they are going to be making cash on every one sold.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Bebpo on January 19, 2011, 03:48:48 PM
Nintendo never loses money on products
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 19, 2011, 03:51:05 PM
Nintendo never loses money on products

Nonsense, I'm fairly certain they lost money on publishing Sin and Punishment 2.
They were losing money on every Wii sold just last year.

Not the Japanese ones!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 19, 2011, 03:51:24 PM
Well the difference between between the US and JP prices is kind of alarming, and if that's not chalked up to exchange rates, then I don't know how it can be explained. As far as I know the package is almost the same.

They were losing money on every Wii sold just last year.

Wut?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 19, 2011, 03:56:51 PM
get out of here, mathman

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/8581/294450-mathman_large.jpg)
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Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 19, 2011, 03:57:25 PM
Well the difference between between the US and JP prices is kind of alarming, and if that's not chalked up to exchange rates, then I don't know how it should be explained. As far as I know the package is almost the same.

They were losing money on every Wii sold just last year.

Wut?

Nintendo had its first quarter of loss in a long time last year.  This is attributed to them not selling enough Wiis in their home country to offset the losses incurred by the exchange rates.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 19, 2011, 03:57:30 PM
get out of here, mathman

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(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/8581/294450-mathman_large.jpg)
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omg :lol blast from the past.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 19, 2011, 04:25:56 PM
This was the Wii cost breakdown from Toyokeizai:

Graphics chip: $29.60
CPU: $13
DRAM: $7.80
DVD drive: $31
Power Supply: $11.30
Manufacturing; $19.50
Total: $158.30


Note: THAT COST BREAKDOWN WAS FROM 2006. The Wii has got to be shit cheap to manufacture now, and I am dubious of any Nintendo claims that they're losing money on the hardware even with a brutal exchange rate.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 19, 2011, 04:30:03 PM
This was the Wii cost breakdown from Toyokeizai:

Graphics chip: $29.60
CPU: $13
DRAM: $7.80
DVD drive: $31
Power Supply: $11.30
Manufacturing; $19.50
Total: $158.30


Note: THAT COST BREAKDOWN WAS FROM 2006. The Wii has got to be shit cheap to manufacture now, and I am dubious of any Nintendo claims that they're losing money on the hardware even with a brutal exchange rate.

Dude, their financials are reported every quarter.  They lost money last year in spite of their healthy sales outside of japan.  You're also not factoring in costs of the controllers and the included software.

MAYBE r and d costs are eating into their profits to a detrimental effect, but I'll take their word for it that its the exchange rate.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 19, 2011, 04:35:38 PM
The system's price is a little high, but not unexpected.  

The launch line up just kinda sucks.  The only three games I can see myself enjoying are rehashes.  I can wait to play DOA.  SSFIV looks awesome, but since I play portables at home, I have no reason to play that version over a real version.  Mercs is a little tempting, but it's not anything I'd want to pay full price for.  

But I'm ordering two systems in case these things sell out and start selling at ridiculous prices on amazon/ebay.  

Maybe I'll get one later in the year when MGS, Revelations, and Zelda are out.  
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: magus on January 19, 2011, 04:38:11 PM
http://nintendo3dsblog.com/first-screenshots-of-rayman-3d-2

ahahahahahahahahahahahah
3DS has to be the worst console ever! :lol :lol :lol

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Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Bebpo on January 19, 2011, 04:43:04 PM
Why do you hate Rayman magus  ???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 19, 2011, 04:44:30 PM
Rayman is lame.  Typical  goofy european shit character design.

See also: Rare
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2011, 04:45:41 PM
I'll probably buy Rayman 3DS...because my copy of Rayman 2 DS was bought during a trip to Italy  :'( (also Rayman 2 DS is a horrible port)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Bebpo on January 19, 2011, 04:50:42 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTOIDAiD2OA[/youtube]

:\

I count 5 games in there I would buy (KH, Icarus, RE Revelation, Paper Mario, MGS3-again).  First year of 3DS is going to be the dumps.  Hope they have better software by 2012.  PSP still seems to be where all the big handheld games are for at least the first half of 2011.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 04:52:57 PM
3DS is really shaping to be the pinnacle of gaming :smug

Target audience is obviously someone that has lots of money,has 3D fetish,loves ports and dreams about Ubisoft games

btw,saw something on gaf about 3DS Pikmin game
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 19, 2011, 04:58:20 PM
get out of here, mathman

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:lol

wow
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 19, 2011, 05:00:25 PM
3DS is really shaping to be the pinnacle of gaming :smug

Target audience is obviously someone that has lots of money,has 3D fetish,loves ports and dreams about Ubisoft games

btw,saw something on gaf about 3DS Pikmin game

E3: OMG MGS3, MAINLINE RE, RE MERCS, SSFIV, DOA, ZELDA OOT REMAKE, STARFOX 64 REMAKE, ETC. ETC. ETC. ALL AT LAUNCH!!!!!!!!!

Today: lol no
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: magus on January 19, 2011, 05:02:02 PM
Why do you hate Rayman magus  ???

oh no i never played rayman 2 it's just that there was already a rayman 2 port for the DS and i heard it was abyssymal and now they are doing it again on a portable that has already racked like (let me count them...) 7 ports already out of 20 titles announced

it's really kind of ridiculous

seriously the gba at least had fucking megaman battle network!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Damian79 on January 19, 2011, 05:06:29 PM
Isnt papar mario going to be released inthe launch window?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 05:06:39 PM
Joystiq has made some partial list

Quote
First-Party Launch Window Titles

    * Nintendogs + cats
    * Pilotwings Resort
    * Steel Diver


Third-Party Titles "Coming Soon" (Partial List)

    * Asphal 3D (Ubisoft)
    * Bust-a-Move Universe (Square Enix)
    * Combat of Giants: Dinosaurs 3D (Ubisoft)
    * Crush 3D (Sega)
    * Dead or Alive Dimensions (Tecmo Koei)
    * Dual Pen Sport (Namco Bandai)
    * Lego Star Wars 3: The Clone Wars (LucasArts)
    * Madden NFL Football (EA Sports)
    * Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 3D (Konami)
    * Rabbids Travel in Time (Ubisoft)
    * Rayman 3D (Ubisoft)
    * Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D (Capcom)
    * Ridge Racer 3D (Namco Bandai)
    * Samurai Warriors Chronicles (Tecmo Koei)
    * Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked (Atlus)
    * The Sims 3 (EA)
    * Super Monkey Ball 3D (Sega)
    * Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition (Capcom)
    * Thor: God of Thunder (Sega)
    * Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Shadow Wars (Ubisoft)
    * Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 3D (Ubisoft)


First-Party Titles "In the Works"

    * Animal Crossing game
    * Kid Icarus: Uprising
    * The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
    * Mario Kart game
    * Paper Mario game
    * Star Fox 64 3D
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Corporal on January 19, 2011, 05:29:18 PM
Man, I kind of hope Nintendo crashes and burns with this. A 300€ handheld? For these games? For that hardware? With region locks? Heaping helping of Humble pie desperately needed.

But oh well, DS turned out fine too, so maybe it "just isn't for me"® right now.

At least they finally caved in and gave us per-system Friend codes. FINALLY. Still won't help their entirely unappealing online strategy tho.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 05:38:26 PM


[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfOahjQ4s_U[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: pilonv1 on January 19, 2011, 05:40:28 PM
how could anyone be interested in this. buy a 360
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 05:52:28 PM
Engadget preview
Quote
As for the screen, in 2D mode the colors stand out and it's pretty crisp, but even a slight nudge on the 3D depth slider makes for a whole different experience. The viewing angle, which we actually commend during its two-dimensional presentation, drops to single-degree acceptability when the parallax display is put to use -- moving even just a little would cause the screen the flicker and the 3D effect to be lost or too muddled to enjoy. Expect to keep your arms locked in place while playing, and we'd advise against anyone trying to look over your shoulder to follow along. What's more, there's no instruction or guidance on how to adjust the depth slider for your eyes, and each game requires a seemingly different setting, so you end up fiddling with it a lot -- to what can be quite painful results. Our own Nilay Patel has had a headache since this morning's playing session, as has columnist-at-large Michael Gartenberg. We'd suggest Nintendo require each game to pop up a calibration screen with some saved settings that disable the slider -- otherwise we can see a lot of players just disabling 3D entirely.



http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/nintendo-3ds-in-depth-preview-slight-return-video/ (http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/nintendo-3ds-in-depth-preview-slight-return-video/)

nice tech but this needs to be user friendly as much as possible

EU event was 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D....3D 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D






Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 19, 2011, 05:56:58 PM
I just realised there is no achievement system in place. Blessing in disguise.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 19, 2011, 06:00:37 PM


[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfOahjQ4s_U[/youtube]

This looks like fun. Rabbids Go Home was a good game so there's always potential for another solid entry using these characters.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 06:37:56 PM
Another Ubisoft game
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPLfthRsiQM&feature=BF&list=SPAF03FF81D386C28B&index=1[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 19, 2011, 06:45:33 PM
Quote
Our own Nilay Patel has had a headache since this morning's playing session, as has columnist-at-large Michael Gartenberg 


lol  wow
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: magus on January 19, 2011, 06:53:23 PM
sony should add a vuvuzela option to induce headaches into people buying PSP2 too! :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 19, 2011, 06:58:33 PM
Another Ubisoft game
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPLfthRsiQM&feature=BF&list=SPAF03FF81D386C28B&index=1[/youtube]

Awesome trailer.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2011, 06:59:37 PM
Quote
Our own Nilay Patel has had a headache since this morning's playing session, as has columnist-at-large Michael Gartenberg 


lol  wow

Part of it is tech,part of it is people messing around with non-familiar device

either way,fuck this fake shit,give us holograms,real holodeck not this brain melting stuff
 :pirate can see the 3D world just fine,no dizziness(except from alcohol  :smug )

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Kinect is a small,but important step towards that
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Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: naff on January 19, 2011, 07:07:29 PM
I've gone from 'OMG DAY 1, first handheld I'm going to buy since GBA' to 'eh' so very quickly since the lead up to launch has been peppered with so much disappointing news. Primarily region locking and crappy sounding online implementation. ffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuck Nintendo
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 19, 2011, 08:10:21 PM
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/227716418.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1295486799&Signature=wGzVz%2BX4GWx79nC0wdJUBLTiPvU%3D)

Nintendo 3 Dog SKUs
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: pilonv1 on January 19, 2011, 08:15:40 PM
Is that a miniature poodle? :heart
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Himu on January 19, 2011, 08:22:23 PM
Looks like a pretty good line up to me. Go play your shitty first person shooters, babbies.

Mean while I'll be playing my 3ds and Tactics Ogre on my psp.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: pilonv1 on January 19, 2011, 09:09:21 PM
Looks like a pretty good line up to me.

kiss of death
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 19, 2011, 09:13:07 PM
I heard Nintendo was going to move their 3DS production facility

...to Portland
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Himu on January 19, 2011, 09:14:54 PM
Looks like a pretty good line up to me.

kiss of death

Go play Football Manager, plebe.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: pilonv1 on January 19, 2011, 09:17:20 PM
u mad?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Himu on January 19, 2011, 09:17:59 PM
I'm mad that you always seem mad at me :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: pilonv1 on January 19, 2011, 09:21:48 PM
it's just a front :-*
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Himu on January 19, 2011, 09:23:35 PM
:heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 19, 2011, 10:04:37 PM
Isn't the 3DS supposed to be more powerful then the PSP? How come all the games look like Sub Dreamcast graphics?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Diunx on January 19, 2011, 10:09:53 PM
3DS is really shaping to be the pinnacle of gaming :smug

Target audience is obviously someone that has lots of money,has 3D fetish,loves ports and dreams about Ubisoft games

btw,saw something on gaf about 3DS Pikmin game

E3: OMG MGS3, MAINLINE RE, RE MERCS, SSFIV, DOA, ZELDA OOT REMAKE, STARFOX 64 REMAKE, ETC. ETC. ETC. ALL AT LAUNCH!!!!!!!!!

Today: lol no

I never understood the reactions to the E3 reveal fucking ports and shit looking games everywhere and yet everyone was losing their shit.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 19, 2011, 10:40:16 PM
Seeing the PS3 for the first time at E3 was pretty awesome though.  Even though my friend and I knew that those "PS3"s had nothing inside, it was still cool to see them with all the fancy sports cars-like paint jobs.  It's too bad that Sony never even bothered to release limited editions of those fancy colored PS3s. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: iconoclast on January 19, 2011, 11:41:06 PM
I hope the next Paper Mario is as good as TTYD. Every Mario RPG since then has sucked.

But yeah the launch line up is pretty terrible. Kid Icarus, Paper Mario, and Resident Evil are the only interesting games there, and I'm in no rush to play any of them. Everything else is a remake or rehash of old games with superior versions already available.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 20, 2011, 12:11:36 AM
The 3ds supports mp3s.
This changes things.

hmmmm.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 20, 2011, 12:34:04 AM
The 3ds supports mp3s.
This changes things.

hmmmm.


i guess, if you want the largest and most inconvenient mp3 player ever.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 20, 2011, 12:43:32 AM
Ghost Recon game is by J.Gallop


OLD

The 3ds supports mp3s.
This changes things.

hmmmm.


i guess, if you want the largest and most inconvenient mp3 player ever.

I broke my ipod. I need chunky durable things. :fbm
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 20, 2011, 12:51:11 AM
The 3ds supports mp3s.
This changes things.

hmmmm.


i guess, if you want the largest and most inconvenient mp3 player ever.

3DS is a PSP killer in every way :bow
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 20, 2011, 01:01:22 AM
I don't know, Street Fighter IV looks pretty bad-fucking-ass if I were a fighting game fan.  I'll probably wait until June when OoT is out.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: pilonv1 on January 20, 2011, 01:07:53 AM
what is this j.gallop stuff
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: cool breeze on January 20, 2011, 01:08:16 AM
SF4 would be cool if you did take your 3DS around with you.  For me, it is worse version of the same game I already have on PS3/360, with worse controls.  Even though Street Fighter is a billion times more interesting than DoA, if I got one 3DS fighting game (ignoring Blazblue) it would be DoA because it at least seems new.

I'm speaking more from my opinion experiences.  I bought Tekken on PSP and didn't play it much and passed on Soul Calibur psp when that came out.  The last fighting game I really played on a handheld was Street Fighter 2 on the GBA.  well, ignoring anime fighters like the Bleach games and Jump - Stars games.

realistically I'll buy pilot wings and the thing will sit here doing nothing until the next batch of games come out.  I haven't learned my lesson from pretty much every other console launch, except maybe the Dreamcast.

Ghost Recon game is by J.Gallop


yeah, that seems like it may be the surprise exception from Ubisoft's usual pile-o-quickie shit ports.

what is this j.gallop stuff

x-com talent
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: iconoclast on January 20, 2011, 01:20:20 AM
I don't know, Street Fighter IV looks pretty bad-fucking-ass if I were a fighting game fan.  I'll probably wait until June when OoT is out.

It sure does. That's why I've been playing it for 9 months.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 20, 2011, 01:26:58 AM
some ninfags haven't  ;)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: maxy on January 20, 2011, 03:43:12 AM
Lazer Squad :bow2


Gametrailers has bunch off-screen videos

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzOLNkfuQ2o[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 20, 2011, 05:40:36 AM
boxart time

(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/5150/1686056-5401smb3dspack_front_large.jpg)

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61QOWPjVi%2BL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61Xmb4gKF8L._AA300_.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 20, 2011, 05:55:02 AM
Quote
Also, why do we need cases that are CD dimensions with DVD case thickness for a frigging smartcard!?


probably some marketing reason,casuals are strange...i don't think that Nintendo cares about some hardcore nerd drooling over boxart

Smaller case is bound to cost less money...small amount,but million copies
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: naff on January 20, 2011, 06:53:33 AM
Make them thin as fuck

Thin as fuck has some negative connotations imo, even though it's software keeping classic media dimensions has a certain level of comfort.

and stop wasting so much shitty plastic. Use card, paper, whatever.

:lol funny you should say this as greenpeace has Nintendo as one of the least 'green' electronics manufacturers

(http://www.gamespact.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/GP_greenpeaceratings10.10610.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 20, 2011, 07:04:01 AM
It makes no sense to me either.
money,unwilling to change,it was fine before so let's continue,marketing...it's just wtf

This is like making 360 without DVD but maintaining the same size.DVD is like half of the 360

PSP2 will be interesting to see
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: magus on January 20, 2011, 07:16:52 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2NxfInOQ3E&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

dead or alive giving a new meaning to button mashing :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Corporal on January 20, 2011, 07:51:09 AM
Aw, now I want to play Links Awakening again.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: magus on January 20, 2011, 07:53:31 AM
Aw, now I want to play Links Awakening again.

probably the best sentiment related to a zelda games

link's awakening! the only actualy really good zelda! even if it has that horrible horrible trading fetch quest
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: SantaC on January 20, 2011, 09:15:01 AM
any news if OoT has extra content? Only extra areas can get me to buy it again.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Trent Dole on January 20, 2011, 12:21:27 PM
[youtube=560,345]vW41M_1zM4o[/youtube]
Resistance weakening...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 20, 2011, 12:40:42 PM
Any reports about the battery life, and for how much we can extend it?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 20, 2011, 01:12:58 PM
Nintendo official faq,via ign

Quote
Battery Duration: When playing Nintendo 3DS software about 3-5 hours. When playing Nintendo DS software about 5-8 hours. Battery duration differs depending on the brightness setting of the screen. The information regarding battery duration is a rough standard. It can be shorter depending on what functions of the Nintendo 3DS system are used.

David Yarnton,managing director of Nintendo UK.

Quote
Eurogamer: The 3DS' 3.5 to 5 hour battery life has disappointed quite a few people.

David Yarnton: Actually, if you have the 3D, Wi-Fi and other functions off it's longer than five hours. You're looking at a totally new piece of equipment that's doing lots of different things compared to previous products. It's a different ball-game. But if you don't have the 3D on it will be longer than five hours.

So yeah,battery life is here and there

We won't know until somebody buys the thing or some tech site gets it for review
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2011, 01:24:05 PM
can you post the official faq
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 20, 2011, 01:31:22 PM
Click on this link

http://ds.ign.com/articles/114/1144818p1.html (http://ds.ign.com/articles/114/1144818p1.html)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2011, 01:47:12 PM
:heartbeat
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 20, 2011, 02:51:52 PM
I thought you couldn't turn off the wifi?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch event - $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 20, 2011, 02:53:16 PM
I'm waiting for the inevitable 3DS Lite.  I'm not paying $250 for a 3DS.

I hope the next Paper Mario is as good as TTYD. Every Mario RPG since then has sucked.

But yeah the launch line up is pretty terrible. Kid Icarus, Paper Mario, and Resident Evil are the only interesting games there, and I'm in no rush to play any of them. Everything else is a remake or rehash of old games with superior versions already available.


Nintendo's launches have pretty much all been terrible.  They seem to hit their stride about a year in, blow their load over the next two years after that, and then abandon the hardware.

The 3DS lineup is much better than the first year of the DS.  Your options for most of the first year were Mario 64 DS, Yoshi Touch and Go, Nintendogs, or Kirby Canvas Curse.  I see at least twice that amount of potentially good games to come out in the first year of the 3DS, even if some of them are port jobs.  That is just what we know.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 20, 2011, 03:15:59 PM
Some opinion piece

Opinion: Nintendo 3DS Is a Last-Gen Game Machine

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/01/nintendo-3ds-analysis/ (http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/01/nintendo-3ds-analysis/)

It will be interesting to see how 3DS revisions will be handled

DS was going up,but 3DS has $250 starting point...

I like this

Quote
Ever since the cautionary tale of the PSP, I’ve been skeptical whenever game industry watchers line up in universal praise of anything. It’s not that I have a contrarian streak. It’s because when everybody seems to be on board with a new product, that means it is too understandable to them: It’s exactly like what is popular now, but better, therefore it could not possibly fail.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Trent Dole on January 20, 2011, 03:28:26 PM
it's surprising to see Kohler of all people dissenting a bit.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 20, 2011, 03:56:55 PM
That's actually a pretty awesome Kohler quote. I liked that article.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 20, 2011, 04:01:11 PM
Too bad Kohlers a fat racist.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: naff on January 20, 2011, 04:19:22 PM
Too bad you're a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 20, 2011, 04:27:36 PM
Too bad I actually have proof of Kohler being one and he also called me a "distinguished black fellow".
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 20, 2011, 04:30:35 PM
wow, good job Kohler
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 20, 2011, 04:38:11 PM
Too bad I actually have proof of Kohler being one and he also called me a "distinguished black fellow".

Meh I called someone that once. I didn't mean it and only did it because he called me a cigarillo first. :(
But I let him know I don't think less of him really, so Kohler's not necessarily a racist. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 20, 2011, 04:53:58 PM
I wonder if the post is still here on these forums. It was brought up years ago when I first joined I think and then Kohler stepped in and bumblefoot his way out a excuse.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 20, 2011, 04:57:38 PM
Yeah, I read that article today and really liked it. I had no idea it was Kohler's. I thought everything he said was pretty reasonable, drawing comparisons to the PSP launch was a bit grim, but still made sense.

Too bad Kohlers a fat racist.

Too bad I actually have proof of Kohler being one and he also called me a "distinguished black fellow".

If you're gonna start another one of your nerd-rage episodes about him I'm gonna freaking ban you on the spot.

Jesus, Every fucking time.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: The Sceneman on January 20, 2011, 05:06:11 PM
Thin as fuck has some negative connotations imo

That's what she said!! LMAO!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 20, 2011, 05:07:43 PM
We went over this like 5 years ago go look up the thread if you want the proof.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: The Sceneman on January 20, 2011, 05:09:11 PM
"Yes, this case will be nailed shut with a final, decisive piece of evidence"
                                /

(http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/phoenixwright/godot.png)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 20, 2011, 05:09:25 PM
I don't give a fuck ban me, side with a racist I don't give a fuck. If I could search i'd look it up myself BUT I CAN'T.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 20, 2011, 05:09:49 PM
It's amazing how i've been here for 5-6 years and I still don't get no fuckign respect
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: The Sceneman on January 20, 2011, 05:10:41 PM
 :lol here we go
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 20, 2011, 05:11:13 PM
I went like 2 fucking years not being banned and now because you fucks are lazy youre going to ban the only person who still posts thoughtfull intelligent posts here.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 20, 2011, 05:11:47 PM
You know what FUCK YOU i am tired of being your breating boy, 5 years and I still am a leper what am I the shoe shiner or something jesus fuck.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 20, 2011, 05:12:34 PM
I remember this coming up before, but my memory of the conversation tells me that you never would divulge the full story.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 20, 2011, 05:15:00 PM
yeah well I still can't its painfull none of you know what its like being a minority in a white mans business.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 20, 2011, 05:18:01 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: demi on January 20, 2011, 05:22:32 PM
It's amazing how i've been here for 5-6 years and I still don't get no fuckign respect

I think you're a distinguished black fellow too
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: pilonv1 on January 20, 2011, 05:24:06 PM
this is amazing :rofl
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: naff on January 20, 2011, 05:27:27 PM
yeah well I still can't its painfull none of you know what its like being a minority in a white mans business.

OMG :rofl :rofl A heart felming story
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 20, 2011, 05:28:45 PM
Well this thread has certainly taken a turn for the worse
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Diunx on January 20, 2011, 05:34:01 PM
yeah well I still can't its painfull none of you know what its like being a minority in a white mans business.

:rofl classic quote in the making.

Why is nintendo still fucking around with friend codes? why can't I just created an username and a password like in any decent console? smh.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: naff on January 20, 2011, 05:45:15 PM
Why is nintendo still fucking around with friend codes? why can't I just created an username and a password like in any decent console? smh.

:fbm I guess creating the software was too complex for Nintendo. Easier to just distribute unique codes with each handheld. Nintendo :piss2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on January 20, 2011, 06:16:15 PM
holy shit  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

anyways - just want to have a look at this "oh the battery life is fine" defense... So ... as long as you switch off the 3D , it's longer than 5 hours. Erm - sort of ruins the point of the 3DS though doesn't it? Though we could then just call it the Nintendo S... we all know what the S stands for. But yeah, without the 3D that would make this a pretty weak follow up machine - sort of the DS1.2.

I'm also a bit annoyed that Nintendo are getting backslaps and mad props for correcting things they got painfully wrong. Great- now you need only ONE friend code so you've finally caught up with how things were done 8-9 years ago in the console realm... and that's how this machine is starting to feel: it's the DS with the niggles ironed out and a brand new gimmick or two - there is absolutely nothing to get excited about at the moment and that includes the frankly turgid line up, though someone will no doubt put a killer game on it after 12-18 months (get a move on iNis)

Oh and i hear it plays Mp3s?!!?  :-\

yeah, agreed.  Maybe I'm too negative and I just like thinking about the PS2 to the PS3.  PS2, best system ever -> PS3, uhhhhhh

I'd say sony had a slow ball down the center waiting to be hit, but it's sony.

I do like comparisons between 3DS and PSP graphics.  I guess victory is having better visuals than a handheld from 2004.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: The Sceneman on January 20, 2011, 06:58:19 PM
Nintendo take one step forward then take two steps back

It comes together because distinguished mentally-challenged fellows they attract

It ain't fiction but an actual faaaact


fuck wheres Scat Cat when you need him
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: pilonv1 on January 20, 2011, 06:58:46 PM
Someone posted this on another forum and sums up my feelings on adding MP3s

http://www.aussie-nintendo.com/news/24984/

Quote
Nintendo have announced today at their New York conference that the Nintendo 3DS system will support MP3 and AAC audio files. Through the pre-installed 3DS Sound application, you can browse through your tracks, listen to music and even manipulate audio. The Nintendo Wii originally supported MP3 files however an update caused the system to switch to AAC files instead. Going back to MP3 support eliminates the need for an MP3 player and further emphasises the "take your 3DS everywhere with you" ideals.

The response

Quote
MP3 on these things will be great. If you want to skip a track, all you'll have to do is take it out of your pocket, open it, remove the little plastic pencil, tap the music player icon, tap the next track button, replace the little plastic pencil, close the unit and put it back in your pocket. You'll be able to get through a whole day of listening, pausing only twice to recharge the battery. And to carry all the music you have on your iPod now, you'll only need to carry four 32 Gb SDHC cards everywhere with you. Awesome.

:bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 20, 2011, 07:24:45 PM
I wonder if the post is still here on these forums. It was brought up years ago when I first joined I think and then Kohler stepped in and bumblefoot his way out a excuse.

Kohler has like two posts on this forum dude.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2011, 07:25:34 PM
BLACK PEOPLE WILL BE ALL OVER THAT

(just like how many use psps as actual mp3 players)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 20, 2011, 07:33:34 PM
Well, to change a track on ipod I have to take the system out of my  pocket, turn the screen on, swipe to unlock,  hit next, turn the screen off, and then slip it back in my pocket.  Its not like you have to use the stylus for the ds menu functions anyway.

And I thought sdhc cards were GB, not Gb?  I got by on an 8 GB touch just fine.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Damian79 on January 20, 2011, 07:34:29 PM
holy shit  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

anyways - just want to have a look at this "oh the battery life is fine" defense... So ... as long as you switch off the 3D , it's longer than 5 hours. Erm - sort of ruins the point of the 3DS though doesn't it? Though we could then just call it the Nintendo S... we all know what the S stands for. But yeah, without the 3D that would make this a pretty weak follow up machine - sort of the DS1.2.

I'm also a bit annoyed that Nintendo are getting backslaps and mad props for correcting things they got painfully wrong. Great- now you need only ONE friend code so you've finally caught up with how things were done 8-9 years ago in the console realm... and that's how this machine is starting to feel: it's the DS with the niggles ironed out and a brand new gimmick or two - there is absolutely nothing to get excited about at the moment and that includes the frankly turgid line up, though someone will no doubt put a killer game on it after 12-18 months (get a move on iNis)

Oh and i hear it plays Mp3s?!!?  :-\

You know i heard it also increases the battery life if you dont use it like a flash light and reduce the brightness like the DSi.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Trent Dole on January 20, 2011, 07:47:02 PM
BLACK PEOPLE WILL BE ALL OVER THAT

(just like how many use psps as actual mp3 players)
I would say this is a joke but I have actually seen it with my own two eyes.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: The Sceneman on January 20, 2011, 07:47:27 PM
Well, to change a track on ipod I have to take the system out of my  pocket, turn the screen on, swipe to unlock,  hit next, turn the screen off, and then slip it back in my pocket.  Its not like you have to use the stylus for the ds menu functions anyway.

And I thought sdhc cards were GB, not Gb?  I got by on an 8 GB touch just fine.

DAMAGE CONTROL MODE ACTIVATED
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 20, 2011, 07:54:23 PM
I really did.  The biggest problem was managing podcasts, but I had hundreds of songs and no space issues.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Trent Dole on January 20, 2011, 07:57:43 PM
QUICK SOMEONE 'SHOP KOHLER'S HEAD ON THIS
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l207/fgsfdsfargeg/1164183655174.gif)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 20, 2011, 08:00:32 PM
Well, to change a track on ipod I have to take the system out of my  pocket, turn the screen on, swipe to unlock,  hit next, turn the screen off, and then slip it back in my pocket.  Its not like you have to use the stylus for the ds menu functions anyway.

And I thought sdhc cards were GB, not Gb?  I got by on an 8 GB touch just fine.

You don't use the headset's remote? Or double click the home button while it's locked to bring up the music controls?

Also, if your device was jailbroken you can control the music app with screen swipe gestures while the device is locked.

Plenty of other options too, man.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 20, 2011, 08:04:22 PM
I don't do homebrew/jailbreaking. Partly out of laziness and partly out of liking things to be fixed under warranty.  Wasn't aware there were headsets like that for the ipod.  The one that came with it wasn't.

STOP TRYING TO CHANGE MY MIND I'M POOR AND MUST MAKE UP MIND
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 20, 2011, 08:26:33 PM
Wait, I don't think I can watch my onion news network vids on the 3ds, nor music videos.
 :( Choices  :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 20, 2011, 08:27:22 PM
Well, to change a track on ipod I have to take the system out of my  pocket, turn the screen on, swipe to unlock,  hit next, turn the screen off, and then slip it back in my pocket.  Its not like you have to use the stylus for the ds menu functions anyway.

You're doing it wrong. Double-tap the home button and you get the on-screen remote instantly.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 20, 2011, 08:28:15 PM
Wait so you have an ipod touch? I thought you were saving up for one instead of a 360?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 20, 2011, 08:29:49 PM
Wait so you have an ipod touch? I thought you were saving up for one instead of a 360?

The old one won't come on and I kind of want the newer model with the camera. 

Everyone shut up about xbucksthreeshitty lol

edit:  Double click?  Ok I stand corrected. Never occured to me to do that.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Diunx on January 20, 2011, 08:33:55 PM
If I want to change a track I just reach into my pocket, press the skip button that is on the top center of my phone and thats it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 20, 2011, 08:45:17 PM
Hey Oscar, did either Sonic Colors do well?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 20, 2011, 08:52:31 PM
Did methodis really get banned. That was some funny shit.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: demi on January 20, 2011, 09:00:55 PM
Yep. You mad? Does it EAT at you, knowing I banned him?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 20, 2011, 09:03:21 PM
I just wonder how he keeps coming back.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Diunx on January 20, 2011, 09:45:20 PM
Why was he banned?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 20, 2011, 10:15:04 PM
upset at DCharlie saying the niggles had been ironed out, I think
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Diunx on January 20, 2011, 10:47:43 PM
Why was he banned?
It's rough not being able to read, say, 30 posts up.

Don't see any reason why he should have been banned up there.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Diunx on January 21, 2011, 10:12:02 AM
Methodis isn't banned? Cool I was worry this board was having a little gaf moment.

And what's this "inside trading" stuff all about?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 21, 2011, 10:16:38 AM
read ps3 failOverflow topic,last few pages probably

what kind of sony fan are you?
defend the hive sometimes

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Diunx on January 21, 2011, 10:20:08 AM
Haven't been following that thread cus I don't own one I have it bookmarked though gonna get into the custom fw action as soon as I become a proud ps3 owner :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 21, 2011, 12:22:18 PM
Nintendo strikes back

Quote
Contrary to speculation, the 3DS's digital download store and internet browser will be up and running from launch, Nintendo has confirmed.

A Wired report earlier this week claimed that the new handheld's eStore would not be ready on the day of release and would be added in later via a firmware update.

However, a spokesperson for Nintendo told Eurogamer today that although neither an internet browser nor the eStore would be included in the console's "initial firmware" they will be "updated on day one".

The eStore is where you'll be able to download DSiWare titles, retro Game Boy classics, game demos, trailers and new digital titles made exclusively for the 3DS.

Nintendo hasn't confirmed a full line-up for the portable's Virtual Console equivalent, however, screenshots indicate that Super Mario Land and Zelda: Link's Awakening will both be available at some point.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-21-3ds-estore-will-be-ready-on-day-one (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-21-3ds-estore-will-be-ready-on-day-one)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: magus on January 21, 2011, 12:55:06 PM
Quote
However, a spokesperson for Nintendo told Eurogamer today that although neither an internet browser nor the eStore would be included in the console's "initial firmware" they will be "updated on day one".

why the heck they would do that? :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Herr Mafflard on January 21, 2011, 01:24:39 PM
from eurogamer
Quote
In a week when the gaming world's attention is firmly locked on what's coming next from Nintendo, its strategy for the 3DS felt like an odd collision of truly cutting-edge technology and dogged old-school thinking.

While Apple counts its ever-growing mound of cash built on the systematic dismantling of the need for physical, packaged entertainment, Nintendo marches on with a system which will largely rely on a catalogue of boxed product, retailing for as much as £40 a pop.

As excellent as the glasses-free 3D technology undoubtedly is (assuming you posses eyes capable of seeing the effect), I spent much of the time at the Amsterdam conference thinking, 'Yeah, nice – but would I pay £40 for that piece of software?' The answer was nearly always 'probably not'.

I can't help but think that in this era of ultra-cheap, high-quality downloadable software that the goalposts have moved. It already seems absurd to pay £25 or more for a DS game, when I can readily download all sorts of great stuff elsewhere, so why should it be any different on the 3DS?

Personally, I'm not convinced that 3D alone is enough of a draw, nor that Nintendo will make its downloadable offerings cheap enough to compete with what's happening elsewhere. The landscape of the games market is completely unrecognisable from where it was even five years ago, and it feels like Nintendo is unwilling to move with the times – possibly to its cost.



A good point about the price of software for this thing. Now that I think about it, a game has to be really fucking special if they want me to fork over £40 (the price of a ps3/360 game) for it. You can get some quality XBLA stuff for a quarter of that price.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 21, 2011, 01:49:15 PM
some rumor is floating around

Nintendo is selling 3DS to UK retailers for £173...VAT included

http://www.shopto.net/DS/VIDEO%20GAMES/3DSHW01-Nintendo%203DS%20Cosmos%20Black%20Console.html (http://www.shopto.net/DS/VIDEO%20GAMES/3DSHW01-Nintendo%203DS%20Cosmos%20Black%20Console.html)

£199
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: magus on January 21, 2011, 03:57:47 PM
Quote
However, a spokesperson for Nintendo told Eurogamer today that although neither an internet browser nor the eStore would be included in the console's "initial firmware" they will be "updated on day one".

why the heck they would do that? :lol

it's not finished yet ???

but it will be done on day one? i don't know i call bullshit
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 21, 2011, 04:10:22 PM
have faith  :smug

Every platform launch is like that,wait wait,and then a week before launch,sorry delayed

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Corporal on January 21, 2011, 04:21:20 PM
Remember the first Wiis? They only had a Firmware stub and had to be updated via an enclosed Update disk before they were even able to play games or boot past a "Update disk plz" screen. It's a feasible, if Nintendo-typical way of doing things.

The firmware needs to get onto the hardware, which means each and every unit needs to be flashed, then verified, which takes considerable time. Flashing old and beta firmwares onto early production runs may not be wise, too. Instead, just burn a tiny (and thus easily debuggable/verifiable) bootstrap loader onto the flash that looks for updates on a disk or other fast-to-manufacture medium. Pressing 2 million disks takes no time compared to flashing 2 million Wiis/3Dss/etc, so you can include far "newer" firmware with the device.

TL;DR: Let the customer do all the work. They're sheep for buying the hardware already, so why not let them do the update flash themselves.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 21, 2011, 04:29:54 PM
the real question is:

will it be good?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: chronovore on January 21, 2011, 11:20:31 PM
US info,March 27th-$250,the rest should be the same as above,but we shall see after dust settles
Some US info by Mr. Linkzg
Quote
software included:
life meter/graph thing
pedometer for play coins
mii maker
internet browser (!)
video/music player

Face raiders (that face shooter game...like gameboy camera)
AR cards / alternate reality game
Don't worry, Fisftul, this doesn't mean what you think it means.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 23, 2011, 12:35:25 PM
Some rumor
(http://botchweed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/qlWlv.jpg)

http://botchweed.com/feature/gamestop-leaked-3ds-upcoming-release-dates/ (http://botchweed.com/feature/gamestop-leaked-3ds-upcoming-release-dates/)


Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Raban on January 23, 2011, 12:42:07 PM
Big guns for summer I guess.

$250 price tag + $40-$50 games = lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: magus on January 23, 2011, 12:43:09 PM
if that list is true that would mean that nintendo is releasing zelda,kid icarus,starfox and animal crossing on the same day,unless i'm missing something that's never ever going to happen
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 23, 2011, 12:45:41 PM
those are just anticipated dates,only the ones close to launch should be taken seriously

if list is true
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: OptimoPeach on January 23, 2011, 12:53:22 PM
Handhelds are historically pretty safe to buy on launch day, right? Right? I've never actually bought any console day one and I'm somehow reallllly tempted to snatch this up in spite of not being hyped at all by 3D anything
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 23, 2011, 12:59:28 PM
Historically yes,but now they are cramming lots of transistors inside them.It should be safe,not that I would recommend buying anything at launch.
Wait a little,hardware(+/-) will be known,more games will come,possibly some good retailer deal,etc...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: demi on January 23, 2011, 01:02:17 PM
Handhelds are historically pretty safe to buy on launch day, right? Right? I've never actually bought any console day one and I'm somehow reallllly tempted to snatch this up in spite of not being hyped at all by 3D anything

If you're ok with the void of games at launch... and the inevitable release of a 3DS Lite
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Raban on January 23, 2011, 01:20:10 PM
Who the hell buys hardware at launch anymore?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 23, 2011, 01:31:53 PM
Who the hell buys hardware at launch anymore?

I bet Prole and Dcharlie will get one at launch despite all their negative talk. 

Since the PS2 days, I've been buying everything but handhelds at launch.  In terms of reliability, I've been pretty lucky so far, with only the PS2 and 360 requiring replacements.  The only handheld that I bought a launch, was the PSP.  It was kinda cool to see that kinda tech in a handheld and the PSP's screen was stunning for its time.  But I sold it after a month or two when I realized that most of the PSP library were games that looked and played better on my other systems. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on January 23, 2011, 02:23:27 PM
I buy hardware at launch even though it is never a good habit to have.  My PS3 for the first year was used for playing PS2 games.  Not only that, it was with a worse controller without rumble and the habit of randomly disconnecting.  Wow, I just remembered that.  I played God of War 2 and Kratos would literally into death because the controller would freeze up.  It wasn't fixed until Uncharted was released and I got my import white controller with rumble.  The only good thing that came out of a launch ps3 was the ability to play ps2 games.

anyway, yeah, buying hardware at launch is only worth it if you like the idea of having new toys to mess with.  I have that problem.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 23, 2011, 02:26:00 PM
I don't think they ever fixed the Sixaxis disconnection completely.  It was some kinda Bluetooth signal interference that was inherent with the Sixaxis.  It didn't occur much in my home but I remember it pissing off TVC a lot, probably 'cause he had so many wireless devices. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 23, 2011, 02:40:05 PM
Who the hell buys hardware at launch anymore?

I bet Prole and Dcharlie will get one at launch despite all their negative talk. 

Prole is a wealthy tycoon, why wouldn't he buy it at launch?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Bebpo on January 23, 2011, 02:50:35 PM
Handhelds are historically pretty safe to buy on launch day, right? Right? I've never actually bought any console day one and I'm somehow reallllly tempted to snatch this up in spite of not being hyped at all by 3D anything

GBA SP
DS Lite

...sure!   :lol


/still probably will buy one day1 and then rebuy one a year later when 3DS SUPERIOR comes out
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 23, 2011, 02:59:33 PM
of course i will buy it at launch, and i am actually excited for it

a nintendo handheld with graphics that aren't total shit? 400x240 is a bit poopy, but i'll deal.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 23, 2011, 03:17:42 PM
Also, PSP2 might be pretty coo'
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 23, 2011, 07:10:59 PM
Early PSP screens also had lots of problems with stuck pixels.  Dunno about the DS though. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: The Sceneman on January 23, 2011, 07:22:46 PM
Animal Crossing 3D :drool
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on January 23, 2011, 07:25:50 PM
Handhelds are historically pretty safe to buy on launch day, right? Right? I've never actually bought any console day one and I'm somehow reallllly tempted to snatch this up in spite of not being hyped at all by 3D anything

Early PSPs had shitty square buttons (apparently a design defect, do not criticize an architect's beautiful archway or whatever shit Kutaragi said to defend it).  I remember that being an issue.

Did they ever fix that with the 1000? I thought it remained a problem until the 2000 was released, like with the d-pad.  I'm not exactly sure because I remember stories about an improved white PSP-1000 from Japan.

The nice thing about the original PSP was how premium it felt.  PSP-2000 felt cheap by comparison with the all plastic body and the umd drive you had to pull open.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: MCD on January 23, 2011, 07:27:02 PM
Ah, that's true.  Dead pixels never went away and never really will, but the PSP did have an amusing stuck pixel problem in the early go.
I have one dead pixel near the top right corner of my PSPGo screen. Not a big deal since it's barely visible but still, dead pixels will never go.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: The Sceneman on January 23, 2011, 07:29:51 PM
I've got a dead pixel on my PSP screen, you can only notice it when the screen is black so it's no big deal
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Bebpo on January 23, 2011, 08:42:25 PM
I had the same square button problem on my dual shock 3.  I blame it on all the goddamn musou games on Sony systems.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: The Sceneman on January 23, 2011, 08:49:14 PM
The X button of my very first (non analogue) PS1 controller got soooooooo fucked from my hundreds of hours of Crash Bandicoot and Wipeout. By the end you couldnt even tell if you were pushing the button or not because it was so smushed in  :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Raban on January 23, 2011, 10:37:26 PM
Ah, that's true.  Dead pixels never went away and never really will, but the PSP did have an amusing stuck pixel problem in the early go.
I have one dead pixel near the top right corner of my PSPGo screen. Not a big deal since it's barely visible but still, dead pixels will never go.

unless you have an OLED screen like the PSuperiorP2 :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 23, 2011, 10:49:11 PM
$40 games? REALLY?  Hopefully software sales lag and the publishers pulls their heads out of their asses.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 23, 2011, 10:50:41 PM
$40 games? REALLY?  Hopefully software sales lag and the publishers pulls their heads out of their asses.

PSP games were/are $40.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Oh wait.  :teehee
[close]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 23, 2011, 10:59:36 PM
Its just so fucking ridiculous at this point. Anyone can see where the trends are heading in this space. When I see first party 3ds games priced at 40 bucks it makes ME not want to invest in the platform, and I'm the biggest Nintendo apologist around.  The 3ds is a potentially interesting device which is setting itself up to fail and hand the market over fucking faux-input cell phone games.

I sincerely hope the publishers are simply seeing what they can get away with. I sincerely hope if blows up in their face and they adjust towards  more reasonable prices. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on January 23, 2011, 11:00:28 PM
There were $40 games on the DS.  Difference is that the DS, and current PSP, price range is $30 to $40 falling on the lower end nowadays.  3DS is similar to the original PSP pricing range of $40 to $50.

It does seem expensive if you put next to iphone game pricing.  Sims 3 for the iphone is probably $5 compared to the $40 3DS version.  You can already directly compare game prices between the DS, PSP, and iphone with things like Ghost Trick and Chinatown Wars.  Apparently Ghost Trick is broken into parts for the iphone, and adding everything together it still amounts to over $10 less than the DS game price.

Chinatown Wars was $10 on the iphone (I think) compared to $40 on the PSP and $30-some on the DS.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 23, 2011, 11:07:06 PM
Yeah, but I was stupid enough back then to spend that much on FFTA2.  I know better now
*Thinks about all the new games he has paid the full 50 for

uh, I should know better by now.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 24, 2011, 02:40:45 AM
Looks like there will be all sorts of small 3D devices this year

(http://www.techeye.net/assets/upload/Nvidia/Tegra%202-3D_Barcelona_450w.jpg)

http://www.techeye.net/chips/tegra-2-3d-unveiled (http://www.techeye.net/chips/tegra-2-3d-unveiled)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Oblivion on January 24, 2011, 03:10:40 AM
Do we have any official specs, btw?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 24, 2011, 03:15:37 AM
Nothing officially

We know that it has some ARM CPU(rumored multicore) and PICA-200 GPU
Exact models and clocks are unknown
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: pilonv1 on January 24, 2011, 04:13:30 AM
Do we have any official specs, btw?

This is what I'm interested most in, not from a purchase point of view but from a LOL NINTENDO YOU CHEAP FUCKS point of view.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Corporal on January 24, 2011, 07:06:43 AM
I really hope the rumoured ARM 11 cores are just that, rumours. A Cortex A-series core is like 500 billion times more performant, or 500 billion times more energy efficient, if you want to look at it this way.

But it's Nintendo. They will use series 11 cores, I'm pretty sure they will. They're like a dime a dozen nowadays because nobody wants them anymore. :-\
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 24, 2011, 04:23:52 PM
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/01/nintendo-confirms-3ds-content-locked-to-single-system-no-transfers.ars

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The good news about buying a Nintendo 3DS is that you'll be able to transfer your digital purchases from your DS system to your 3DS using an SD card, and Nintendo will be giving us more details on how that will take place closer to launch. The bad news is that once you buy content on the 3DS itself, it will be locked down to that system. Wired.com spoke with Bill Trinen, Nintendo’s senior manager of product marketing, to get the details.

Wired.com: If I buy a piece of 3DSWare on my 3DS, is that restricted to that 3DS that I purchased it on?

Trinen: That would be similar [to] how Nintendo DSi works.

Wired.com So it would be restricted to one 3DS, and I can't move it? Even if I put the software on an SD card?

Trinen: Correct. Once you've bought it, it's for the system you bought it on.

While this isn't a major surprise, it is disappointing. If you want to upgrade into the inevitable Nintendo 3DS part 2 or mini or whatever the plans are, there doesn't seem to be a way to keep your games. If your system breaks? We'll see if Nintendo has a way to retrieve the games you purchased.

There is no other way to put this: this is bad for Nintendo, bad for third parties developing downloadable games for the platform, and bad for gamers.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on January 24, 2011, 04:40:31 PM
:miyamoto
 
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I didn't buy anything on dsiware, or things after a point on wiiware, because of that.  I thought Nintendo would fix their online shit for the 3DS because it is 2011.  Oh well, maybe with their next console.

I'll play Shantae 2 one day  :'(
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Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 24, 2011, 04:42:37 PM
well let's be honest, what the fuck kind of games are worth buying on their store, c'mon
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on January 24, 2011, 04:47:15 PM
on the 3ds store? probably only virtual console stuff.  on the dsiware there is shantae 2, cave story, and maybe xscape.  problem is that it won't really grow now.

don't worry, though.  Nintendo got this.  There has never been a successful app store or online game buying service before and that won't ever change.  And pedophiles, man.   
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 24, 2011, 04:51:28 PM
well let's be honest, what the fuck kind of games are worth buying on their store, c'mon

This has less to do with "lulz, they're store fucking sucks anyways" and more with "good jon Nintendo, you've certainly caught up on DD's modern standards."

Plus, this might have preemptively killed any interest I had for the Store, and I'm sure others will feel the same. That's the worst thing about it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 24, 2011, 05:00:03 PM
Nintendo transfers download liscences for broken systems to working ones.  Of course that's all snail mail stuff.

edit:  there are a lot of good wiiware/dsiware games in the sea of crap, don't hate.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 24, 2011, 05:43:05 PM
well let's be honest, what the fuck kind of games are worth buying on their store, c'mon

it's a bit of a vicious cycle, though.

the store sucks so nobody makes games for it -> nobody makes games for it so the store sucks -> etc.

the iPhone exists. the iPhone exists and is cheaper than the 3DS! sorry Nintendo
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 24, 2011, 05:54:10 PM
Well, let's be fair: if you buy an iPhone 4 you'll end up paying more in the long run, plus, what sort of games in the realm of standard gaming are truly worth getting on iOS?  Some are fantastic, sure!  Infinity Blade, Angry Birds, etc etc, but you're not going to get a competent Resident Evil, a competent SFIV (I know of the iOS version; it's serviceable), or a game like Zelda or Kid Icarus.

The best option would be to buy a new iPod Touch 8 gig for twenty bucks cheaper, but at that point you're sacrificing full-featured, well-controlling games for pricing and infrastructure.  Depends on what you're looking for in portable gaming, I guess.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 24, 2011, 05:59:41 PM
I think I might get a 3ds because I haven't had a good pokemon fix since ruby/sapphire.  Black and White looks unappealing, but the next iteration is sure to take advantage of whatever changes Nintendo is instituting in their online service.  Maybe I can finally get a legit Politoed or some shit.  40 dollar games suck though, they need to focus their energy on making the estore desirable to 3ds consumers because I'm selfish and should have my way.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Himu on January 24, 2011, 06:01:47 PM
40 dollars is a bit pricey.

I was hoping for 30-40 just like psp.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 24, 2011, 06:04:53 PM
At the very least I'll get one when it comes out by trading in my DSi as well as some games.  I can't play my games anymore on my acekard :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 24, 2011, 06:08:17 PM
So how much can we expect psp2 games to be 50-60 bucks /concerntroll
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Himu on January 24, 2011, 06:09:47 PM
Please do not fill my brain with thoughts, emcee. Half the reason I prefer portable gaming are the cheaper games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 24, 2011, 06:15:05 PM
We're both gonna be statistics on a demographic slide at an Apple presentation.  Saaaaaaaaad.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Himu on January 24, 2011, 06:18:11 PM
2 buck gaming :rock

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 24, 2011, 07:52:07 PM
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or a game like Zelda


there's a fair few Zelda style games on the Iphone - based on the 2D ones too... you know... when Zelda was still good?


links to the iPhone store or it didn't happen
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on January 24, 2011, 07:55:23 PM
[youtube=560,345]I0yxZiifFhw[/youtube]

actually, Gameloft is making a Zelda clone for ipod/phone :lol

and there are a bunch of direct comparisons you can make in pricing.  For the 3DS, there is Asphalt whatever they're on (they roll out like 5 a year).  $40 on 3DS, probably under $10 on the iphone.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 24, 2011, 07:56:17 PM
Well, let's be fair: if you buy an iPhone 4 you'll end up paying more in the long run, plus, what sort of games in the realm of standard gaming are truly worth getting on iOS?  Some are fantastic, sure!  Infinity Blade, Angry Birds, etc etc, but you're not going to get a competent Resident Evil, a competent SFIV (I know of the iOS version; it's serviceable), or a game like Zelda or Kid Icarus.

The best option would be to buy a new iPod Touch 8 gig for twenty bucks cheaper, but at that point you're sacrificing full-featured, well-controlling games for pricing and infrastructure.  Depends on what you're looking for in portable gaming, I guess.

Pricing and infrastructure are exactly the things that are keying into the market these days.

Isn't FFTactics coming to iPhone? Chinatown Wars is on there for $10. Let's Golf
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 24, 2011, 08:09:14 PM
I thought Zenonia was an FF clone, not a Zelda clone, for some reason.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 24, 2011, 08:23:01 PM
and you're not foolingme to get into a "zelda's not good anymore" argument.  I'ma need drinky here with me if that starts
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on January 24, 2011, 08:37:53 PM
play-asia import cost of the japanese 3ds is $479

yeah
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 24, 2011, 08:38:44 PM
Skyward Sword looks very refreshing.  I just hope it gives us some memorable music to nostalgiatard over two decades from now.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 25, 2011, 02:50:37 PM
Saw this on some forum,kinda suitable to post here

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWkBv1xw9Sg&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: originalz on January 28, 2011, 08:26:40 PM
(it's making it's way to the DS - there's a Zenonia 2 on iphone too, also available on PC)

It's already on the DSiWare, not a bad port of the game but it has the jerky movements that most iPhone ports suffer from.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 31, 2011, 03:05:25 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d1IQKegyCrA#[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeWftAPVXtM[/youtube]

Some people are melting over load times...just make a sandwich
expecting same loading times as DS is a bit unrealistic


NGP will be even worse
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 31, 2011, 03:44:36 PM
I think out of all the bitching and complaints gamers have had in the past 10-15 years, loading times is the one I couldn't give two shits about.  Shit's there, just get used to it and have fucking patience.  I'd rather wait for 15 seconds than actually be playing a game where you do nothing for 15 MINUTES at a time (coughWind Wakercough).
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Corporal on January 31, 2011, 03:46:59 PM
I'd rather play a game without any loading times at all. But oh well, to each his own.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 31, 2011, 03:56:21 PM
I think its just shoddy programming. There's no good reason to have loading on solid state media, unless the publisher goes with the cheap cards and hella compress the game to fit on them.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: naff on January 31, 2011, 04:01:49 PM
I think its just shoddy programming. There's no good reason to have loading on solid state media, unless the publisher goes with the cheap cards and hella compress the game to fit on them.

lol wut ???

Flash memory != instant loading and of course it's hella compressed  ::)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Oblivion on January 31, 2011, 04:04:18 PM
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and you're not foolingme to get into a "zelda's not good anymore" argument.

i actually enjoyed Wind Waker and a whole gang of us spent a day going through 4 Swords which was absolutely fantastic fun - i tried the Wii Zelda but once i'd gotten through the first 14 hours of NOTHING i had pretty much had it.

Annnyways - my desire to play Ocarina AGAIN even if it is in 3D is extremely low.

Did you like OoT?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Diunx on January 31, 2011, 04:07:44 PM
I think out of all the bitching and complaints gamers have had in the past 10-15 years, loading times is the one I couldn't give two shits about.  Shit's there, just get used to it and have fucking patience.  I'd rather wait for 15 seconds than actually be playing a game where you do nothing for 15 MINUTES at a time (coughWind Wakercough).

Are you fucking serious? loading times is the most valid complaint gamers have.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 31, 2011, 04:16:44 PM
wah wah, not really.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 31, 2011, 04:25:37 PM
I think out of all the bitching and complaints gamers have had in the past 10-15 years, loading times is the one I couldn't give two shits about.  Shit's there, just get used to it and have fucking patience.  I'd rather wait for 15 seconds than actually be playing a game where you do nothing for 15 MINUTES at a time (coughWind Wakercough).

Are you fucking serious? loading times is the most valid complaint gamers have.

Load times? Try frame rate.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Or resolution. Or AA.
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Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Bebpo on January 31, 2011, 04:33:36 PM
resolution is not a valid complaint.  No one can seriously tell a 600p game vs. a 720p game on a console.

AA depends on the game.  Some games are fine without AA because of the art style, some games are REALLY NOT FINE without AA :P


Framerate & Load times are valid complaints on everything.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 31, 2011, 04:36:00 PM
resolution is not a valid complaint.  No one can seriously tell a 600p game vs. a 720p game on a console.

AA depends on the game.  Some games are fine without AA because of the art style, some games are REALLY NOT FINE without AA :P


Framerate & Load times are valid complaints on everything.

AA is a valid complaint ALL THE TIME. Seriously.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Diunx on January 31, 2011, 04:40:38 PM
I think out of all the bitching and complaints gamers have had in the past 10-15 years, loading times is the one I couldn't give two shits about.  Shit's there, just get used to it and have fucking patience.  I'd rather wait for 15 seconds than actually be playing a game where you do nothing for 15 MINUTES at a time (coughWind Wakercough).

Are you fucking serious? loading times is the most valid complaint gamers have.

Load times? Try frame rate.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Or resolution. Or AA.
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I'd take shitty framerate over shitty load times anytime.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 31, 2011, 04:41:54 PM
I think out of all the bitching and complaints gamers have had in the past 10-15 years, loading times is the one I couldn't give two shits about.  Shit's there, just get used to it and have fucking patience.  I'd rather wait for 15 seconds than actually be playing a game where you do nothing for 15 MINUTES at a time (coughWind Wakercough).

Are you fucking serious? loading times is the most valid complaint gamers have.

Load times? Try frame rate.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Or resolution. Or AA.
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I'd take shitty framerate over shitty load times anytime.

Unless we're talking about 1 minutes load times several times an hour, then no way would I take that deal.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Corporal on January 31, 2011, 04:42:55 PM
What really makes my blood boil are lazy loading screens. Just a black screen with a tiny spinning logo or animated text. Fuck that shit. I just loooove looking at a black screen twiddling my thumbs inbetween heated bouts of gaming.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on January 31, 2011, 04:48:33 PM
Loading times will get better with later games,Nintendo will probably tighten QA too but cheap solid state memory won't solve loading times,neither would expensive unless game media=device RAM
Their biggest advantage is quick access times,transfer rates not so much(high transfer rate=expensive)

It would be illogical for Sony or Nintendo to make games on some expensive high transfer rate media.They have to make millions of them and even the crappiest ones are more expensive to produce than optical media.

Longer initial loading time,quick loading after...that is the future,for big games
and of course masking it with cutscenes,phone talking,etc
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £230/€250)
Post by: Oblivion on January 31, 2011, 04:57:22 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeWftAPVXtM[/youtube]

Looks just like RE5. :o
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 31, 2011, 05:01:50 PM
resolution is not a valid complaint.  No one can seriously tell a 600p game vs. a 720p game on a console.

dark10x says hi
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 31, 2011, 05:24:37 PM
I dunno.  The lack of 2nd analog isn't really a dealbreaker for RE since you can't move anyway while shooting.  Of course, modern 3rd person shooter controls are preferable but it's not like RE has ever produced a control scheme like that. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Himu on January 31, 2011, 05:30:44 PM
RE4/5 don't use second analog.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Himu on January 31, 2011, 05:35:00 PM
I think out of all the bitching and complaints gamers have had in the past 10-15 years, loading times is the one I couldn't give two shits about.  Shit's there, just get used to it and have fucking patience.  I'd rather wait for 15 seconds than actually be playing a game where you do nothing for 15 MINUTES at a time (coughWind Wakercough).

liking you more and more.

though the wind waker dig was uncalled for :maf
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on January 31, 2011, 06:26:14 PM
Loading times on cartridges.  New age fun with a retro feel.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Akala on January 31, 2011, 07:27:41 PM
RR looks better than I expected it to, considering all the bitching.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 31, 2011, 07:30:09 PM
resolution is not a valid complaint.  No one can seriously tell a 600p game vs. a 720p game on a console.

AA depends on the game.  Some games are fine without AA because of the art style, some games are REALLY NOT FINE without AA :P


Framerate & Load times are valid complaints on everything.

lol, AA is a complaint when the game is 600p
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 31, 2011, 07:32:10 PM
Load times and framerate directly interfere with my ability to enjoy a game and how soon I can do it.  AA, Resolution, whatevs don't and I get kinda peeved when I enter a thread and everyone is fucking pixel counting or some stupid shit.  Guess what shitheads all the people in your favorite game still look like they are made out plastic and probably will for another 10 years.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 31, 2011, 08:27:00 PM
Load times and framerate directly interfere with my ability to enjoy a game and how soon I can do it.  AA, Resolution, whatevs don't and I get kinda peeved when I enter a thread and everyone is fucking pixel counting or some stupid shit.  Guess what shitheads all the people in your favorite game still look like they are made out plastic and probably will for another 10 years.

Instead, they look like plastic AND have razor-sharp edges!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 31, 2011, 08:44:04 PM
resolution is not a valid complaint.  No one can seriously tell a 600p game vs. a 720p game on a console.

AA depends on the game.  Some games are fine without AA because of the art style, some games are REALLY NOT FINE without AA :P


Framerate & Load times are valid complaints on everything.

lol, AA is a complaint when the game is 600p240p

fixed
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Himu on January 31, 2011, 08:44:26 PM
i am going to play the shit out of ridge racer
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 31, 2011, 08:49:44 PM
i am going to play the shit out of ridge racer

Meeeee too.  Right here.  On this PSP.

on this psp at a higher resolution
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Himu on January 31, 2011, 09:02:26 PM
I haven't played Ridge Racers 2. Is that better than Ridge Racers?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Himu on January 31, 2011, 09:07:11 PM
Since I haven't played Ridge Racers in a while, it seems it'd be worth a look sometime. I preferred Ridge Racers over both psp Wipeout's.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on January 31, 2011, 09:09:09 PM
I was wondering that too.  I heard it was rehash of the two console games (6 on 360, 7 on PS3).  I'm totally fine if that's the case.

Initially I was planning on getting Ridge Racer 3DS. I own most of the Ridge Racer games...including Ridge Racer DS ( :yuck) a port of Ridge Racer 64 ( :yuck).  I passed on RR2 PSP because I still wasn't finished with the first.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Herr Mafflard on February 01, 2011, 09:04:37 AM
Load times and framerate directly interfere with my ability to enjoy a game and how soon I can do it.  AA, Resolution, whatevs don't and I get kinda peeved when I enter a thread and everyone is fucking pixel counting or some stupid shit.  Guess what shitheads all the people in your favorite game still look like they are made out plastic and probably will for another 10 years.


Maybe people enjoy games more when they are more detailed and pleasing to look at? Sort of the same way people prefer blu-rays to dvds. Would you rather technological leaps in graphics not be made?

Once you start playing games at higher resolutions with added AA and all that, your games could look exponentially better. And given the choice, wouldn't you prefer to play a better looking and running game?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 02, 2011, 09:57:26 PM
Sure why not, but it will never be a primary factor.  As we have seen this generation, developers are trying to win screenshot wars and then their. game can't maintain 30 fps.  Shit sucks man.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 03, 2011, 12:27:51 PM
another game for Nintendo fans

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Wii science fiction first-person shooter series Conduit is in development for the Nintendo 3DS, Eurogamer can reveal.

High Voltage chief creative officer Eric Nofsinger told Eurogamer: "Right now that we're winding things down a lot of our resources are on pulling this technology over to 3DS.

"We are very much pulling over this engine and this technology on this new hardware." The results are "very good".

"We're still early. The resolution is definitely lower, but the screen real estate is smaller so it balances out. We've not had a lot of severe optimisation yet, but we're going to be able to have something very close to this [Conduit 2] on the 3DS probably by GDC.

"We've got environments from this already up and running around. You can shoot, you can select different weapons and you can see enemies. It runs pretty darn well with full 3D and everything."

Although development is at an early stage, and High Voltage is is yet to ship Wii game Conduit 2, it has already had talks with SEGA - which published The Conduit and is set to publish Conduit 2 - about distribution of the product.

"I would guess that SEGA will be interested," Nofsinger said. "I had a nice conversation just yesterday with their head of artist and repertoire. Coming up here and DICE, the conference in Vegas that's coming up, we'll probably have some more chats."

Nofsinger added that High Voltage is particularly impressed by Nintendo's decision to streamline the Friend Code functionality for the 3DS - and hopes it will enable a true multiplayer shooter experience on the handheld.

"We're very excited about that system and what we're going to be be able to do on it," he explained. "The work we've done with the Wii, we're going to have a serious leg up. It's quite different than developing for the DS and the DSi. Developers like us that have more of a console experience on GameCube and on Wii, are going to be able to take advantage of the 3D better and they're going to be able to do a little bit more with the hardware than people who are coming at it from the straight DS angle and used to doing more 2D, or very limited 3D kinds of things."

Commenting on how Conduit would fit into the line-up of 3DS, games Nofsinger said, "There's nothing like it at all. We can be a shining star on this."

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"I would guess that SEGA will be interested,"
lol

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 03, 2011, 12:56:33 PM
It's a smart move,3DS will sell a lot,young system,not much games available,relatively known franchise
Nothing to lose,might sell some

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 04, 2011, 12:43:40 PM
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Cheap, disposable smartphone games are one of the biggest problems facing the games industry today, according to Nintendo US chief Reggie Fils-Aime.

When asked by GameTrailers whether 3DS games priced between $35 and $45 present good value compared to $1 or $2 App Store downloads, Fils-Aime seized the opportunity to vent some spleen.

"I actually think that one of the biggest risks today in our industry are these inexpensive games that are candidly disposable from a consumer standpoint," he insisted.

Questioned as to whether he would consider mobile phenomenon Angry Birds "disposable", he replied that it was a rare diamond in the rough, adding that the low price points of mobile games are instilling unrealistic expectations in consumers' minds when it comes to more substantial portable titles.

"Angry Birds is a great piece of experience but that is one compared to thousands of other pieces of content that for one or two dollars I think actually create a mentality for the consumer that a piece of gaming content should only be two dollars.

"I actually thinks some of those games are overpriced at one or two dollars but that's a whole different story," he joked.

http://www.gametrailers.com/episode/gametrailers-tv/113&ch=1&sd=0?ep=113&ch=1&sd=0#comments_top (http://www.gametrailers.com/episode/gametrailers-tv/113&ch=1&sd=0?ep=113&ch=1&sd=0#comments_top)

Reggie is not happy

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Diunx on February 04, 2011, 12:49:05 PM
SMALL CHEAP GAMES ARE KILLING THE INDUSTRY!!!!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 04, 2011, 12:54:41 PM
Ocarin of time 3DS? I'd buy that for a dollar!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Purple Filth on February 04, 2011, 01:05:37 PM
Ocarin of time 3DS? I'd buy that for a dollar!

its only worth that much :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Bebpo on February 04, 2011, 01:56:02 PM
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Cheap, disposable smartphone games are one of the biggest problems facing the games industry today, according to Nintendo US chief Reggie Fils-Aime.

When asked by GameTrailers whether 3DS games priced between $35 and $45 present good value compared to $1 or $2 App Store downloads, Fils-Aime seized the opportunity to vent some spleen.

"I actually think that one of the biggest risks today in our industry are these inexpensive games that are candidly disposable from a consumer standpoint," he insisted.

Questioned as to whether he would consider mobile phenomenon Angry Birds "disposable", he replied that it was a rare diamond in the rough, adding that the low price points of mobile games are instilling unrealistic expectations in consumers' minds when it comes to more substantial portable titles.

"Angry Birds is a great piece of experience but that is one compared to thousands of other pieces of content that for one or two dollars I think actually create a mentality for the consumer that a piece of gaming content should only be two dollars.

"I actually thinks some of those games are overpriced at one or two dollars but that's a whole different story," he joked.

http://www.gametrailers.com/episode/gametrailers-tv/113&ch=1&sd=0?ep=113&ch=1&sd=0#comments_top (http://www.gametrailers.com/episode/gametrailers-tv/113&ch=1&sd=0?ep=113&ch=1&sd=0#comments_top)

Reggie is not happy



LOWER PRICES?!?!?  NO WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT!

The game industry has its head severely up its ass
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Himu on February 04, 2011, 02:28:21 PM
I agree with Reggie. Making every game a disposable 1-2 buck game would result in another industry crash.

However, 40-50 is stretching it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 04, 2011, 03:25:59 PM
On one hand, I understand and somewhat agree with what he is saying.

On the other, this is a company that old an SNES rom for $30 and frequently puts out games full price where they'd be $15 on any other platform.  If Nintendo had a place to download games, something like Epic Yarn would be $15.  It is a lesser game than something like Lara Croft Guardian of Light or Bionic Commando Rearmed 2.  And maybe the only thing they've done in the past few years that could be considered reasonable was putting out Picross 3D for $20, which would have actually been worth the full price.  So I can just as easily infer that he's saying "fuck this iphone shit.  if this keeps up, we can't overcharge for games anymore.  people might become privy to us selling a DS tech demo as a 3DS launch game for $40."  But to be fair, it's not just Nintendo doing that on Nintendo consoles.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 04, 2011, 07:11:05 PM
Nintendo just feels threatened that they might not be able to get away with selling bare boned SNES or N64 ports for $40 like they used to.  That or release glorified pedometers and yoga instructions for $60+
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Himu on February 04, 2011, 08:20:22 PM
Bububububu the gaming industry has its head up its ass, Oscar!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
it kinda does
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Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 04, 2011, 08:53:51 PM
I don't think the industry has their head up their asses.  Sane people will pay a premium price for premium content.

The issue for companies like Nintendo and Ubi Soft is that they can't get away with pinching out half assed fare and charging full price.  I think this is what Reggie is really irked about because I imagine those quick buck SNES or N64 ports cost little or nothing to port but bring in tens of millions of dollars of easy revenue.

I'd agree with Reggie if people are demanding that stuff like say NSMB or Mario Kart DS should be a $2 download.  I don't think anyone (rational) is yet and at this point, I have my doubts that anyone will.  It will just mean that stuff like Yoshi's Touch and Go will no longer cut it at full price and it shouldn't.  It's effectively popping the bubble and making them compete.  Considering Nintendo's aversion to competition, they can do really great things once a fire is lit under their ass.  $1-2 disposable iShit games might be the best thing to ever happen to Nintendo.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: iconoclast on February 04, 2011, 09:25:53 PM
I'd agree with Reggie if people are demanding that stuff like say NSMB or Mario Kart DS should be a $2 download.  I don't think anyone (rational) is yet and at this point, I have my doubts that anyone will.

People already gripe when shooters are released at retail instead of being $10 XBLA downloads. Or when $15 is too much for an XBLA game, when an inferior version of that same game would cost $30 on handhelds. DDL services have already given people unreasonable standards and it's probably going to get worse.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Bebpo on February 04, 2011, 09:50:47 PM
Look, I don't think $1-2 price point is the price of gaming.  But I think if people get in the mindset that GAMES SHOULD BE CHEAPER, that is not a bad thing for the industry.

$60 is too much for a game.  I play most $60 games I buy for a week and then never touch them again.  Don't even get me started on paying for imports between Japan's ridiculous overpriced software prices + import charges + current horrible exchange rate. 

You want to know why the used game market thrives so well and endangers the game industry so badly?  There's at least part of your answer.  It's the reason why used dvds/blu-rays don't have the same industry-killing affect as used games.  Dvds/blu-rays are priced at least SOMEWHAT reasonable and people don't mind impulse purchasing them and then don't feel inclined to sell them off.

IMO the game industry would do fine if everyone went to a $30 price point for console games, $20 for handheld games and $1-10 for DD indie games.  I don't mean MSRP, I mean the prices should be around that level on Amazon/Best Buy/Gamestop/Etc.....  I feel pretty confident that if all games were $20-30 they'd sell 2x+ amount to make the same profits to support the same budgets.  But the problem is that unless EVERYONE goes into the lower price point together, a few games being a lower price point just makes them seem like budget titles and then everyone ignores them thinking they're stinkers.  And since I don't see any collective industry teamwork to attempt a lower price point on a new generation ever happening, instead videogames in the US will probably just go the same route as the otaku anime market in Japan where the userbase shrinks and they raise prices to compensate for fewer sales and the userbase shrinks and they raise prices to compensate for fewer sales and eventually the whole thing just collapses (this is going to happen to the anime market in Japan within the next 10-15 years).

So if the app store and it's cheaper games brings enough public demand for LOWER PRICES that it causes developers to start dropping their prices of at least handheld titles to more reasonable price points like $20-30 instead of $40-50 for 3DS/PSP2 then, yes, this is a good thing for the industry and not a bad one.

You know what you do if you're the collective publishers?  If you're so afraid that cutting your game prices in half won't bring in 2x sales and will cause you to go out of business due to game budgets, then why don't you start out buy cutting all your game budgets in 1/2 and selling your games at half the price?  Then see how it goes for a while.  If you're selling far more copies, then you start raising your budgets so that you can bring out higher quality products within the lower price point while still bringing in profits.

If the entire game industry tried that and we had a few year BUDGET TRANSITION where we went to lower budget games on $20-30 price points, I really believe the game market could thrive and the budgets could start getting back to modern day budgets without raising game prices.  But companies need to work together to do this.  Or Nintendo/Sony needs to put out a handheld and set a max price point of $20-30 for handheld titles.

/end bebpo rant
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 04, 2011, 10:36:21 PM
I think that a key difference between the game and DVD/BRD market is that often times most studios consider the disc releases to be gravy.  They expect the box office returns to make up for their expenses for the film.  Games don't have this luxury.  Especially since film companies double and triple dip for movies quite often.  Unless you're Nintendo or Square, this again in a rare thing for the gaming industry.

I don't agree about making games cheaper because the market determines that quickly enough for them.  A shit game or a sales flop at $60 will likely end up in the Gamestop bargain bin at $20 a couple of months after release.

The issue I see with the cheaper price point is that people are going to be more discriminatory about what is worth the cost and what isn't.  What was acceptable before (ie, Nintendo rom dumps) may no longer be acceptable once $1-2 cheap throwaway gaming becomes more and more mainstream.  I think dudebros are always going to shell out $60+ for the latest Call of Duty or Gears of War.

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People already gripe when shooters are released at retail instead of being $10 XBLA downloads. Or when $15 is too much for an XBLA game, when an inferior version of that same game would cost $30 on handhelds. DDL services have already given people unreasonable standards and it's probably going to get worse.

Do they gripe but pay and download for the games anyway?

I believe most gamers will pay a premium price for premium content.  Some will whine but they will fork over the cash to play it.  The problem is if games like Pac Man jumps in price from 400 to 800 pts for no reason other than that many other games are 800 points.  That kind of bitching is justified, especially if the cost increase netted no benefit to the gamer.

It's also the internet where people will bitch about anything.  However I don't think that it has any huge impact on sales but I'm not a sales-age genius.  People on the internet love to bitch and whine for the sake of bitching and whining.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on February 05, 2011, 02:18:17 AM
Bebpo has a point about development bloat.  Any game that employs 200 people just on the development side to make it is one that absolutely cannot afford to fail.  GTAIV sold great, but so did the last gen GTA's, all of which might have had the combined budget of GTAIV.  EA is now in the best position they've been in for the entire generation and they're still losing money.

The costs for producing games is skyrocketing, developers and publishers are now squeezed more then ever.  The game industy is growing, but all the growth isn't in the console-and-full-priced-games sector, its in cheaper DD where big-company-sustaining-profit is impossible to come by.  That a large and by all accounts growing casual base of gamers is all too willing to shun most kind of 'marquee' games in favor of iOS games that are 1/10th the price of old-guard product has got to scare the shit out of pretty much everybody who isn't Apple. 

I think most retail games are way too expensive as of now.  At the 4th/5th year of previous generations there were various price points for retail games, I'm dead certain that many products that come out now at full price do so at their own peril.  That said, I don't see the need for everything to collapse in price as if the shelves were filled with soon to expire bread, that doesn't help anybody.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 05, 2011, 04:53:28 AM
stolen from gaf

Reggie: Low App Prices Threaten Industry Nintendo

Yeah sure if everything was mandated to be $2,but that won't happen because there will always be people that want big games and those games need huge budgets.
However this is directly targeting Nintendo casual consumer,everyone now owns a smartphone and even more importantly people carry them around.Meaning that expensive shovelware will be a hard thing to push.

Why buy some $40 "no so good game"  when you can buy the same or similar shit on smartphone for $5...yeah buttons,controls,etc but are they really worth the price difference?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: pilonv1 on February 05, 2011, 04:57:53 AM
I think the biggest disconnect for the industry is that thinking that consumers can tell or care about the difference between a $1 app store game and full priced title. They just want something to entertain them, and the app store titles provide a better value proposition.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: pilonv1 on February 05, 2011, 05:30:47 AM
I think the biggest disconnect for the industry is that thinking that consumers can tell or care about the difference between a $1 app store game and full priced title. They just want something to entertain them, and the app store titles provide a better value proposition.

Yep.  For the majority of people who buy games, Angry Birds is exactly as entertaining if not more entertaining than something like Super Mario Galaxy.  I think Reggie realizes this, though, hence why he's getting defensive about these games.  He knows the audience Nintendo usually scoops up includes a whole bunch of people who make no distinction between Punch-Out and Fart-Out, so he's all freaking out and shit.

I think the reason they're so defensive is that they've come from years of Wii owners shunning anything similar to their internally developed games so they've never needed to worry about it. Now they have someone competing with them and couldn't be any more fundamentally different from a pricing point of view. I can imagine Nintendo Japan is like "wtf" and doesn't get it which makes things hard for Reggie.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 06, 2011, 02:09:16 PM
[youtube=560,345]aEFqQz1bFv0[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]5DnOxcXXwZw[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 06, 2011, 02:14:17 PM
what. the. fuck.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 06, 2011, 06:37:56 PM
wow, i'd like to meet whoever thought that was a good idea and shake their hand
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2011, 06:48:40 PM
I don't get it.  What's wrong with a SF themed martial arts stage show?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 06, 2011, 07:47:56 PM
it's stupid?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Himu on February 06, 2011, 08:55:09 PM
haha that's lame as fuck
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Damian79 on February 06, 2011, 09:54:40 PM
Haha thats hilarious.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 07, 2011, 12:58:30 AM
Silly idea but it was done quite well and fairly entertaining to watch.  Props to the two performers for pulling off the sequence almost flawlessly.  Having watch many BTS features of action movies, I know it's much harder than it seems. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 07, 2011, 01:03:56 AM
someone on gaf managed to play a ds game on the 3ds at an event via download play.  Apparently, ds backwards compatibility does stretch instead of just matching pixels exactly (like gba on ds) but it is supposed to be blurry.  The analog slider can be used as the d-pad.

so yeah, ds games are going to be worse on the 3ds.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 07, 2011, 02:10:08 AM
I'm sure they can fix the stretching if there are enough complaints.  I wonder if the analog stick can also be map to the touchscreen for games that used it for movement controls.  It would made games like Mario 64 a lot more playable. 

Btw, is it a slider or stick?  I was under the impression that it was more like a traditional gamepad stick instead of PSP nub. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Himu on February 07, 2011, 02:12:42 AM
i like to use some games with sticks some games with d-pad. i hope there's a choice.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 07, 2011, 02:46:33 AM
Street Fighter 3d my ass, those fools were stuck on a 2d plane!

I love awkward stage shows, we need to have some of those for the next Gears showing
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 07, 2011, 02:47:47 AM
Btw stretching hideos low res DS games up to hideos low res 3DS resolution might be the worst idea ever
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 07, 2011, 03:22:04 AM
Being able to use the analog slider as a dpad is going to make a lot of games a lot more comfortable to play.

I'd take the d-pad over the nub any day, unless the nub is a lot better than the PSP's.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 07, 2011, 10:29:23 AM
It's a slider on the 3DS like the PSP, but almost every impression of it say it's much better than the PSP ones.  It's hard to imagine why.  Who would have thought that upgrading from a tiny hard plastic sno-cap to a large convex rubber one with more range would have beneficial? certainly not sony seeing as how they made the nub smaller for the go.

And yeah, there are a few games I'd prefer to use the nub with, even if it didn't mean it would be analog movement.  Like, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles I'd play with the nub.  But the slightly smaller screens and blurring mean I'll probably stick to my dsi for ds games.

Being able to use the analog slider as a dpad is going to make a lot of games a lot more comfortable to play.  Stretching is frigging lame, though.  Maybe there's an option or something.

apparently there were no options, but it isn't final software and nintendo never intended to show it off this early.  realistically I don't think anything will change.  the other thing of note is that like the PS3, Wii, and 360, when you're playing older games, you can't access the home menu or any of the 3DS software features (notepad, friends list, etc).
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 07, 2011, 01:50:55 PM
There has to be an option to play DS games with the original resolution, even the DS played GBA unstretched. A gimped BC would really Put hamper on the hype parade. I don't care for a single 3DS game coming out this year, and I was looking forward to catching up on the DS releases I missed.

If there is no around this, I'm gonna have to buy a DSi and wait for a year or two on buying a 3DS.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Raban on February 07, 2011, 02:31:39 PM
If there is no around this, I'm gonna have to buy a DSi and wait for a year or two on buying a 3DS.

You should be doing this anyway, but it's your money.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Diunx on February 07, 2011, 07:28:50 PM
I have a friend that pre ordered one even though no game that interest him is coming out in the first six months, his justification was that if he waited then it was gonna be hard to get one and that he wanted to try the 3d camera, he also insist that the battery is gonna last 10 hours with the 3d off.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 08, 2011, 01:04:12 PM
UK(EU) launch list


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• Pilotwings Resort
• Nintendo Dogs + Cats: Golden Retriever
• Nintendo Dogs + Cats: French Bulldog
• Nintendo Dogs + Cats: Toy Poodle
• Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition
• The Sims 3
• PES 2011 3D
• LEGO Star Wars III: The Clone Wars
• Ridge Racer 3D
• Super Monkey Ball 3D
• Samurai Warriors: Chronicles
• Asphalt 3D
• Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars
• Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 3D
• Rayman 3D
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 08, 2011, 01:11:20 PM
I might impulse buy if the UBI games are good but I strongly doubt it. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Trent Dole on February 08, 2011, 01:34:03 PM
Launch games are never good.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 09, 2011, 08:48:11 PM
I think the gyroscope and the cameras are going to turn out to be a bigger deal for 3DS games, anyway
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Himu on February 09, 2011, 08:56:37 PM
who gives a fuck about 3d

I was fully planning on turning it off before the whole battery thing
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 09, 2011, 09:05:20 PM
i'll just repeat what i've said before:

if the selling point of your system - the feature you're going to spotlight in all your advertising - is hampered by movement, gives users headaches, and already has people talking about keeping it turned off to extend battery life before it's even been launched...well, it's probably not out of place to say that you may have made something of a misstep
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Diunx on February 09, 2011, 09:28:12 PM
bu bu bu Zelda and Starfox 64!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 09, 2011, 09:43:48 PM
I'm considering getting a 3DS at launch or close to it, then trade it towards a PSP2 later in the year.  Even if I dig the 3DS, there's bound to be a better version within 18 months. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 09, 2011, 10:15:59 PM
FWIW, Shacknews claims that Ridge Racer plays better with 3D on. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 09, 2011, 10:21:56 PM
I don't even know why I want one at launch.  I feel like I'll get it for the sake of having it, just in case there is a good exclusive game.  Takes me back to the Gamecube where it's a new Nintendo system, but its up against better thing like the PSP2 and iphone and there is nothing to set itself apart other than Nintendo games...and 3D, but that has no real impact on the games you'll play.  Also reminds me of when I got my PS3.  I have not learned a damn think in four or five years.

And with the DS and Wii, both were a exciting at first because of the touch screen and motion controls.  The main reason I got them was for Nintendo games, but there was the hope that third parties could make use of the cool attributes of each; that worked on the DS, not so much on the Wii.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 09, 2011, 10:24:28 PM
I dunno, though.  I'm terrible at predicting things.  I thought the DS would flop, I thought the Wii was going to have amazing software out the butt, and I thought 3D movies would go over like a fart in church.  Also I'm a SEGA fan. 

you an' me both, man. well, except for the wii thing. i knew it would sell like gangbusters, but i also figured it would have shitty software every nerd would hate. i was glad to be right on THAT account.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 09, 2011, 10:30:04 PM
To be fair, even the experts didn't see the PSP losing that badly.  The Playstation brand looked poised to wipe out its competitors and the PSP hardware looked 5 gens ahead of the NDS. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Purple Filth on February 09, 2011, 11:48:56 PM
To be fair, even the experts didn't see the PSP losing that badly.  The Playstation brand looked poised to wipe out its competitors and the PSP hardware looked 5 gens ahead of the NDS. 

Sony fucked up on that one.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Purple Filth on February 09, 2011, 11:54:15 PM
I dunno, though.  I'm terrible at predicting things.  I thought the DS would flop, I thought the Wii was going to have amazing software out the butt, and I thought 3D movies would go over like a fart in church.  Also I'm a SEGA fan. 

you an' me both, man. well, except for the wii thing. i knew it would sell like gangbusters, but i also figured it would have shitty software every nerd would hate. i was glad to be right on THAT account.

Not exactly, but i guess N diehards don't count  :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 17, 2011, 12:46:49 PM
gaf has found some unboxing pics

(http://www.nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/gallery/game-3ds-unboxing/3ds_unboxing-5.jpg)

http://twitter.com/#!/Gamedigital/ (http://twitter.com/#!/Gamedigital/)


and Nintendo has started with their yucky TV ads in UK

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBtb1PssBCI&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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Post by: Himu on February 17, 2011, 01:10:49 PM
To be fair, even the experts didn't see the PSP losing that badly.  The Playstation brand looked poised to wipe out its competitors and the PSP hardware looked 5 gens ahead of the NDS. 

Sony fucked up on that one.


Well psp did have a margin ahead of ds at a time, didn't it? It seemed like the combination of the lite, mario kart, Nintendo Dogs, brain training, mario kart and new super mario bros saved the ds.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 17, 2011, 01:31:06 PM
stolen from gaf,only for Japan obviously but it tells a lot

(http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2010/presentation/textE/slide/78l.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 17, 2011, 01:48:55 PM
would that change anything?
:P
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 17, 2011, 02:05:56 PM
well,in that case Nintendo should steal green color from Sony or just patent it
no more green for you Sony go play with your small gray color
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 17, 2011, 03:01:16 PM
Wow I can't wait to not waste my money on one of these next week!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: magus on February 17, 2011, 05:10:33 PM
but think of all the games you could play on it!
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Post by: pilonv1 on February 17, 2011, 05:45:07 PM
Oh man a bunch of N64 ports :hyper
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 17, 2011, 05:54:09 PM
it plays DS games
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: pilonv1 on February 17, 2011, 06:05:18 PM
So does a DS
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Post by: maxy on February 17, 2011, 06:11:27 PM
 it's so hard to be nintard  :'(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Raban on February 17, 2011, 06:22:37 PM
It's okay maxy, you're just not stupid enough.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on February 17, 2011, 06:42:44 PM
I know there's hype for this, but I really wish Nintendo would have moved this away from DS branding territory (in terms of logo, boxes, etc) and called it something else, like the Nintendo 3DSPLOSION or fuck, who knows. On the shelf, it reads like an incremental update a la DSi as opposed to their hot-shit new pillar for the next 5-10 years.
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Post by: BlueTsunami on February 17, 2011, 06:49:11 PM
Would be hilarious if Nintendo prematurely hitched their wagon to the 3D train
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Post by: Diunx on February 17, 2011, 07:58:03 PM
So does a DS

And a PC.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 17, 2011, 08:57:41 PM
I'm going to make a wild prediction that the flaws of the 3D, particularly the headache/nausea, are going to become mainstream news stories a couple of weeks after this thing launches over here in the US.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 17, 2011, 09:34:09 PM
yeah, but i have yet to read a 3ds preview where headaches/loss of focal point isn't mentioned at least once, and i think it's gonna blow up once these things hit the wild

i could be wrong (as i have been many, many times in the past), but i get the sense that this might be a bigger deal

they can't fix your dizziness and vomiting by packing in a rubber sleeve this time

that wii accident picture of the sullen fat kid with the swollen knot on his head makes me laugh every time i see it, btw!
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Post by: Damian79 on February 17, 2011, 09:46:25 PM
It happens on all 3d devices, you google "headache nausea 3ds"  and all you get is results for 3dtvs.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 17, 2011, 09:50:57 PM
It's just reporters looking at the worst case stuff.  More than the throwing remote thing, I remember people talking about arm fatigue and whatever with the wii.  Most normals don't care about that.  3D is a good marketable gimmick and it will help another piece of hardware to dust around in their house and occasionally appear in TV shows to help you relate to the characters.

Realistically, unless people is really crazy dumb, they'll turn down the slider if they start hurting.
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Post by: Smooth Groove on February 17, 2011, 10:25:15 PM
I've heard that this was probably to do with having the 3D effect turned up full and it's likely i wouldn't have had these problems had i toned down the slider a bit, so i may swing by Sofmap today again and try it. But the big thing was within 30 minutes i had went from feeling absolutely fine to have an absolute crushing headache - a little after that i started feeling sick. Might be that i've picked something up and i hope to god it's not related as i'd assume there will be something i want to play... we shall see i guess.



All those years in the Land of the Rising Sun has turned the XFE into a weak stomached Nipponese.  :fbm
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 17, 2011, 10:57:22 PM
3D doesn't hurt my eyes, still fucking pumped

:patel haters
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 17, 2011, 11:18:45 PM
It's just reporters looking at the worst case stuff.  More than the throwing remote thing, I remember people talking about arm fatigue and whatever with the wii.  Most normals don't care about that.  3D is a good marketable gimmick and it will help another piece of hardware to dust around in their house and occasionally appear in TV shows to help you relate to the characters.

Realistically, unless people is really crazy dumb, they'll turn down the slider if they start hurting.
Eel's point stands though.  If the main feature of your device will cause people to turn that feature off, you might be in trouble. 

I don't think that is the main feature, though.  It's a new Nintendo thing, and it has a tactical gimmick with 3D.

It's like how the Wii lured people in with waggle sports and the promise that you can flail around in a vague approximation of a real activity and colors will move on the TV.  But the most popular Nintendo games on the Wii aren't that.  It's things like Mario Kart and NSMB Wii...and Just Dance, which, destroys any point I had entirely.

I think it will go down like this: people buy it because it's 3D and a new Nintendo thing.  They realize the 3D isn't essential to any of the games, and potentially harmful.  They turn the slider off and continue to play Nintencats and dogs.  Headaches or not, the 3D won't be hurting the device.  I think what I'm trying to say is: No one is pass on the 3DS because of 3D.  It can only help sell units, even if they prove the 3D causes eye problems or something.
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Post by: pilonv1 on February 18, 2011, 12:16:30 AM
Parents are going to love this making their kids who already get car sickness even sicker.

Or maybe it will neutralise it?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Damian79 on February 18, 2011, 03:24:57 PM
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All those years in the Land of the Rising Sun has turned the XFE into a weak stomached Nipponese.

i should also say that i had the same horrible reaction with the V.Boy too (though not with 3D movies)

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It can only help sell units, even if they prove the 3D causes eye problems or something.


i'm guessing that the slider is there because Nintendo are well aware of the issues - as i say , Layton is mostly static so the 3D effect when on full looks really nice - Ridge is face paced and moving and i suspect that's why the 3D goes all to cock. I agree, it probably won't stop the Nintendo crowd buying the machine - but for myself i then end up back where we were 30 posts ago : If the 3D has to be muted or, in worst case, turned off to stop negative effects (likely only in some people not all) then what you are left with is a mildly upgraded DS with , mainly, the same games the DS had. Of course the machine will get some killer titles over time - that's a given - but the line up we know about so far is retreading the same old same old yet again. so for me, the machine because a massive disappointment in it's early stages.


Maybe you werent movign your head as much when you were playing layton?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: magus on February 18, 2011, 03:47:03 PM
i'm kinda curious but how was dcharlie able to play the 3ds? are there demo unit already around japan or whatever? is he inside trading? ???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Damian79 on February 18, 2011, 03:49:06 PM
Interesting, can you try ridge racer with the slider completely down?  Masahiro Sakurai(the ssb dev) said there is stress on the eyes if things are moving forward at you but that isnt the case here.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 18, 2011, 03:50:50 PM
i'm kinda curious but how was dcharlie able to play the 3ds? are there demo unit already around japan or whatever? is he inside trading? ???


February 26th is the Japanese launch date
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 18, 2011, 04:35:59 PM
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It can only help sell units, even if they prove the 3D causes eye problems or something.


i'm guessing that the slider is there because Nintendo are well aware of the issues - as i say , Layton is mostly static so the 3D effect when on full looks really nice - Ridge is face paced and moving and i suspect that's why the 3D goes all to cock. I agree, it probably won't stop the Nintendo crowd buying the machine - but for myself i then end up back where we were 30 posts ago : If the 3D has to be muted or, in worst case, turned off to stop negative effects (likely only in some people not all) then what you are left with is a mildly upgraded DS with , mainly, the same games the DS had. Of course the machine will get some killer titles over time - that's a given - but the line up we know about so far is retreading the same old same old yet again. so for me, the machine because a massive disappointment in it's early stages.

oh, I mostly agree.  Anything I've been saying is strictly me trying empathize with normal people.

I personally feel like the 3DS is exactly what I would expect from Nintendo if the DS was called the Gameboy 64 and the iPhone and PSP never existed.  It's disappointingly par for Nintendo and that's alright for them.  Would anyone have been surprised if the 3DS was just a DS with 3D graphics? people would have still been hyping it up like they did the Wii.  Disappointing hardware has become a defining mark for Nintendo and I shouldn't expect that to change.
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Post by: Jabberwocky on February 18, 2011, 05:46:07 PM
About the 2DS game-stretching - are we sure about that? In this video it plays Pokemon in the original resolution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3R9JJ4qji0#t=2m44s

Re-reading, I thought the complaint was that it literally stretched DS games out like the GBA could do with GB/GBC games. Not sure what the problem is.
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Post by: Raban on February 18, 2011, 05:49:20 PM
About the 2DS game-stretching - are we sure about that? In this video it plays Pokemon in the original resolution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3R9JJ4qji0#t=2m44s

Who the hell are you?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Jabberwocky on February 18, 2011, 05:50:59 PM
About the 2DS game-stretching - are we sure about that? In this video it plays Pokemon in the original resolution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3R9JJ4qji0#t=2m44s

Who the hell are you?

I've posted here on and off for about 3 years. Hi.
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Post by: maxy on February 18, 2011, 05:54:05 PM
i hate name changes
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Post by: Raban on February 18, 2011, 06:29:01 PM
About the 2DS game-stretching - are we sure about that? In this video it plays Pokemon in the original resolution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3R9JJ4qji0#t=2m44s

Who the hell are you?

I've posted here on and off for about 3 years. Hi.

Alright, I was just making sure it wasn't someone with a name change. What's your avatar from?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 19, 2011, 12:25:45 AM
About the 2DS game-stretching - are we sure about that? In this video it plays Pokemon in the original resolution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3R9JJ4qji0#t=2m44s

Re-reading, I thought the complaint was that it literally stretched DS games out like the GBA could do with GB/GBC games. Not sure what the problem is.

It doesn't stretch to match the widescreen resolution.  Sorry if my post implied that.  Maybe scaling is the better term to use.  Dropping some numbers: 

GBA screen resolution:  240 x 160
DS screen resolution: 256 x 192
3DS screen resolution: 320 x 240 (that matters for DS games)

If you play a GBA game on the DS, it remains at that resolution and that's why you have borders around the picture.
If you play a DS game on the 3DS, it stretches the lower resolution to fit the 3DS's higher res screen.  It means the picture will be blurry.

It's not a big issue but you expect options like that.  If you have ever played a PS1 game on your PSP, or any emulator, there are options for how to handle it.  The iPad does it for iPhone apps too, I think.

More random information:  The PSP2/NGP screen resolution has exactly four times the resolution of the PSP, and from what I understand, it won't be an issue there.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 19, 2011, 03:58:36 AM
stolen from Chris

(http://i56.tinypic.com/1z63us7.jpg)

(http://i51.tinypic.com/359bjnc.jpg)

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 19, 2011, 09:32:47 AM
3D issues or not, I doubt Nintendo is going to have any problems selling the 3DS.  Even if there were sluggish sales issues, Nintendo will just release a mainline Pokémon game or remake and it will all be over.

Quote
I personally feel like the 3DS is exactly what I would expect from Nintendo if the DS was called the Gameboy 64 and the iPhone and PSP never existed.  It's disappointingly par for Nintendo and that's alright for them.  Would anyone have been surprised if the 3DS was just a DS with 3D graphics? people would have still been hyping it up like they did the Wii.  Disappointing hardware has become a defining mark for Nintendo and I shouldn't expect that to change.

The 3DS, like the DS and the Wii, is another piece of unambitious tech with a cheap gimmick tossed in that allows people to overvalue the hardware.  The gimmick is the brilliant part because it allows them to get away with making obscene profit margins.  I think Nintendo interprets these new machines as a major imposition, done only because they don't want to be completely lapped by the competition.  If the PSP2 wasn't in the works, I doubt Nintendo would have even bothered with the 3DS - we would have seen the DS last until 2014, like the original Game Boy.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 19, 2011, 11:58:16 AM
Nintendo handheld not selling?
maybe in playstation ecosystem insider trading la la land  :tophat

I also consider 3D as a gimmick,especially since there is no mandatory 3D for devs,important gimmick though,everybody will know what 3DS means.
If any console needed more transistors it was DS and 3DS did that,not as much as people wanted but big improvment.I also think that the gap between 3DS and PSP2 is much smaller than people think,if Capcom can make Resident Evil 5 run on 3DS then everything from PSP2 can be ported.

It will sell because it's a Nintendo handheld,successor to extremely popular DS,it will have Nintendo games that millions are crazy about+big third party support+gimmick that gives it personality.And it has some invisible label that says "buy me,i'm family friendly".I see people of all ages,genders buying it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 19, 2011, 12:21:48 PM
sure, i think it'll sell, i just don't think it will have nearly the impact or legs that the regular ds had

as far as bullet point features go, nowadays touch screens don't mean shit, cameras don't mean shit, gyroscopes and accelerometers don't mean shit, and pretty soon 3D screens aren't going to mean shit

the tech is noticeably dated at launch compared to other handheld devices, and it's gonna look 10x fuglier by this time next year
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 19, 2011, 12:44:58 PM
no one can resist this

(http://i55.tinypic.com/zp9xj.jpg)

 :-*
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Raban on February 19, 2011, 12:46:56 PM
God, fuck Nintendo. Fuck Nintendo up their stupid asses.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Bebpo on February 19, 2011, 01:12:59 PM
I have two pre-ordered for the US release and as its getting closer the initial "NEW SYSTEM, 3D" hype has completely worn off and all I see is a list of shitty launch games I wouldn't touch if they were out now on the DS/PSP and a $250 doorstop that is region locked so I can't play Kingdom Hearts 3D in 2012, which is the only game I care about on the system :\ 

Debating whether to just cancel both or keep 1 on a gamble that it'll be hacked and region free by 2012.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Bebpo on February 19, 2011, 01:22:53 PM
My problem with the DS is that it's the first system I feel doesn't offer anything new so it's hard to get excited about.  Almost every piece of hardware in gaming has offered something new and exciting which made me want to buy it day 1 at launch.  I mean DS was like OMG TWO SCREENS, TOUCHPAD GAMING, it was a new and interesting world and I couldn't wait to see what direction games would go on it.  Plus it had ZOMG POLYGON GRAPHICS ON A HANDHELD which was, like every handheld before it, an advancement of visuals in the handheld field and that was pretty exciting.

The PSP was exciting because it was WOW, DECENT LOOKING POLYGON GAMES on the go.  You could play 60fps Ridge Racer Wowowoww, the potential for having real console style games to play on the go was very exciting and the screen and visuals were so sexy.  Analogue stick and cd-quality music too!

3DS is like...psp graphics with a 3d effect and I'm the guy who goes out of his way to see a 3d movie at a theater showing it in 2d for $3 cheaper because 3d effects seem like gimmicks and don't add to the experience for me.

At least PSP2 feels like a proper new handheld.  OMG NEVER SEEN BEFORE GRAPHICS ON THE GO, OMG DUAL REAL ANALOGS = potential for non-dumbed down console games on the go, trophies on handheld games, rear touch pad...curious.  It's basically the traditional GB->GBA->DS advancement line of handhelds so it has the proper DAY 1 EXCITED feel to it.  The 3DS on the other hand feels like it's a repeat instead of an advancement.  It's like if the Wii had launched without motion controls and was just another traditional game system with PS2/Xbox/GC visuals...wouldn't be very exciting.

As a gamer, I feel like 3DS isn't really for me.  Even moreso than the Wii, which at least brought interesting new controls.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 19, 2011, 01:25:11 PM
Why do you need 2 3DS?  9D squared visuals?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Bebpo on February 19, 2011, 01:41:44 PM
I wasn't sure which color I'd want so I pre-ordered both and figured I'd cancel or sell one to a bro who needs one at cost.
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Post by: Smooth Groove on February 19, 2011, 01:48:43 PM
What a balla.  I bet you also take a black, yellow and white chick home before deciding which color you want. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 19, 2011, 02:02:12 PM
The 3DS, like the DS and the Wii, is another piece of unambitious tech with a cheap gimmick tossed in that allows people to overvalue the hardware.  The gimmick is the brilliant part because it allows them to get away with making obscene profit margins.  I think Nintendo interprets these new machines as a major imposition, done only because they don't want to be completely lapped by the competition.  If the PSP2 wasn't in the works, I doubt Nintendo would have even bothered with the 3DS - we would have seen the DS last until 2014, like the original Game Boy.

I thought the DS and Wii had substantial gimmicks, whatever that means, that gave them different appeal.  DS had two screens with one being touch.  There were a bunch of touch screen that couldn't be done on the PSP or any other console like Ouendan and Trauma Center; two screens were basically useless.  The Wii had waggle and pointer controls, and the second was great and made games like Sin and Punishment, Boom Blox, and all those lightgun shooters work.  Waggle was more hit or miss; marble saga that has you tilting the world is good, everything that just has a digital action associated with a motion is bad.  These were games that weren't appearing on the other consoles (save for expensive peripherals).  I probably wouldn't consider touch or pointer to be gimmicks, actually.

The problem with the 3DS is that it's backwards.  The raison d'etre of the thing is visuals and it fails at that.  It is dated before it is released on just about everything except the 3D screen.  And you can argue about why 3D is great, and I admit that the concept is intriguing, but it ultimately isn't a worthwhile feature with this sort of execution.

Compare it to the PSP2.  Dual analog, multi touch capacitive screen, back screen (???), all them gyros n' motion stuff, etc.  on top of vastly superior visuals to anything else on the market.  Far be it for me to claim something as fact, but I will anyway and say: it is a fact that video games will be better on the PSP2.  People will think 3D makes the 3DS better.  But deep down, as they struggle to play a 3D game with one analog stick, or hold the stylus in one hand to operate the touch screen, or enter numbers to play online, or spend $40 on a $2 iPhone app, there will be a tiny doubt that they're cheating themselves.

So, yeah.  I have the 3DS preordered.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 19, 2011, 02:19:21 PM
I think that some people will sing another song when PSP2 will be one week till launch,i expect to see lots of unpopular decisions by Sony.
PSP2 is will be out in like a year,3DS will be deeply rooted by then,iphone 5 could be out...not exactly the same environment as today
3DS will get some games by then too :P and lots of future game announcements


can't wait to see some juicy sales numbers,next week new Nintendo handheld will be born :bow2

/nintard
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 19, 2011, 02:21:47 PM
I'm still not sold on the PSP2 being more successful than the PSP.  PSP2 is going to be the high end PC to the 3DS's budget console hardware, but only with even less software support than the PC.  
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 19, 2011, 03:09:36 PM
I'm still not sold on the PSP2 being more successful than the PSP.  PSP2 is going to be the high end PC to the 3DS's budget console hardware, but only with even less software support than the PC.  

/serious talk
bold part is :bow2

I think it will have good western support for like 2-3 years(as long as Sony will be willing to moneyhat),the rest will be totally dependent on audience response.I'm not exactly sure what good means though.
Frankly to me(have PSP,i just play games on it) it looks like a bigger PSP with dual analogs and that is all great for me but i just don't see mass market buying it.In short it will live or die on core audience.

Core audience is hmm
I've seen lots of people praising PSP2 on various websites and those people never cared or posted anything in handheld sections for years and yet they were busy in console wars sections.PSP sections are like ghost towns for years,rare articles about PSP have like few comments tops...
 :-\

It will support CryEngine though,but that just tells that Crytek doesn't want to be left behind anymore.

One other thing,next year someone is bound to make first move in big consoles area,not expecting release but some buzz definitely...the rest will follow  
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Bebpo on February 19, 2011, 04:05:47 PM
I don't think PSP2 will be successful, but at least it feels like a real new exciting game system.  3DS brings absolutely nothing to the table besides 3D and 3D doesn't really effect gameplay at all.  Like Linkzg is saying, it's main feature is GOOD GRAPHICS ON HANDHELD and yet...the graphics are barely better than what devs are pushing on the PSP these days.  3DS - PSP is like Wii - PS2 leap.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 19, 2011, 08:08:37 PM
The PSP outsold the Dreamcast and probably the Gamecube and Xbox 1 so that's a distinguished mentally-challenged argument Oscar the xbot.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 19, 2011, 08:15:14 PM
it's even outsold the 360 and the ps3
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 19, 2011, 08:23:11 PM
Can't wait to hear your justification on why it was called Xbox 360 instead of Xbox 2.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 19, 2011, 08:23:24 PM
i don't really care what they call it

well, maybe if they called it COCKSUCKING ASS FACE, that might be a problem in casual conversation
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 19, 2011, 08:24:45 PM
I think the PSP2 is going to have a lot of trouble, saleswise, too.  I'm mostly curious about the name, because in 2/3rds of the world, naming it PSP2 would be like naming the Dreamcast 'Saturn 2'.

I don't think it will be NGP or PSP2.  NGP is weird and PSP2 is too many syllables (PEE-ESS-PEE-TWO doesn't roll off the tongue).  Will probably be Playstation _______, and then you refer to it that way, like how you call the 360 the 360.  Playstation Boss :punch  Japanese will think of that can coffee stuff with Tommy Lee Jones.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 19, 2011, 08:24:55 PM
or THIS WILL GIVE YOU AIDS

that would be a hard sell, even with android marketplace
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 19, 2011, 08:28:09 PM
PlayStation Ballstomper
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 19, 2011, 08:28:47 PM
I thought it was called 360 because when you play it you do a 360 and walk away  ???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 19, 2011, 08:29:26 PM
PlayStation Blowjob
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 19, 2011, 08:30:42 PM
PlayStation Slobberknocker
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 19, 2011, 08:32:06 PM
PlayStation PlayStation
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 19, 2011, 08:32:42 PM
Playstation Robert Palmer

Hire me, Sony.  I have the ad campaign lined up already. Will be seen as ironic once sales come in.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: magus on February 19, 2011, 08:59:25 PM
ahahahahahahahah i can't believe this
this evening a friend of mine contacted me and told me "ehy want to go see the 3DS demo units?" and i'm like "WHAAAAAAAAA? WE HAVE THOSE HERE?" and as such i was able to try the 3DS too! :lol

i only played a few minutes just for kicks...

Nintendo Dogs - you throw a ball,the dog goes pick it up,there is also a cat who keep watching... doesn't look much different from the original

Dead or Alive - looks really nice,the game goes at 60 FPS in 2D but the frame rate drops drasticaly as soon as you switch to 3D mode :lol the 3D effect of this one looks really nice,since the camera moves around,you don't get the same "aquarium" effect you get with the other 3D titles,bottom screens holds a move list or tell you to counter when recieving damage

Zelda - the demo had a kokiri village segment,a deku tree segment and a gohma segment,i picked the deku tree part and... it's really just boring zelda...,the bottom screens holds a lot of information like the item you have equipped and the map of the dungeon,with 3D activated you can see the 2D parts of the game like the message being in front of you while link model appears distant

Steel Diver - ah this looks like the 3DS gimmick game! there were 3 mode but i only tried the first,you move a periscope by moving the DS around,then you shoot with A,when you get hit,you touch the touch screen to repair leaks,the 3D work like zelda in that you see the 2D bits close but the 3D bits distant so the periscope looks close but the enemy submarines looks distant,this was the one with the most noticeable 3D effect

Face Shooter - like with steel diver,you move a target around by moving the 3DS,baloon with the face of the guys you took a photo appear and you shoot them.... yea,that's pretty much it

i did feel a little dizzy after playing but no severe headache or stuff like that
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 19, 2011, 09:06:23 PM
I thought it was called 360 because when you play it you do a 360 and walk away  ???

that would be a 180 you baffling little thing
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Diunx on February 19, 2011, 09:21:27 PM
PSP outsold N64 and Gamecube combined.

I dunno how you can say it has loser stink. It's still being sold in shops 7 years after launch, if it did THAT badly it wouldn't. The only perception problem is people calling it a fucking disaster.

The psp sold a lot but the problem is that the software didn't, that's why I think a lot of the third party support for the psp2 is gonna be riding on the Call of Duty game that will probably be a launch title.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 19, 2011, 09:30:34 PM
I thought it was called 360 because when you play it you do a 360 and walk away  ???

This like some 360 trolling right here
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Bebpo on February 19, 2011, 09:33:23 PM
Yeah, that was one of the best posts I've seen from methodis
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: naff on February 19, 2011, 09:39:07 PM
I thought it was called 360 because when you play it you do a 360 and walk away???

:lol Do you walk into things when you're trying to walk away from them very often?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 19, 2011, 09:40:55 PM
Methodis: FUCK THIS, I'M OUT

*does a 360*

Methodis: HOW THE FUCK YOU GET IN FRONT OF ME?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: MCD on February 19, 2011, 10:01:12 PM
It's an old joke, guys.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 19, 2011, 10:50:38 PM
I thought it was called 360 because when you play it you do a 360 and walk away  ???

fucking idiot :lol

:btw the real way to shoot down segata would be to point out that microsoft stuck it out with the XBOX brand even after their first effort did a third as well as PSP did and was dead as a doornail in 2 of 3 markets
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 19, 2011, 11:18:09 PM
PlayStation Blumpkin
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 19, 2011, 11:37:45 PM
I wonder if it will even be called a "PlayStation _______" in the US.  I could see it taking on some cutesy or clever yet non-clever name in the usual Web 2.0 device fashion.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: OptimoPeach on February 19, 2011, 11:39:52 PM
That 360 degrees thing is old old old /v/ distinguished mentally-challenged
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Raban on February 19, 2011, 11:45:01 PM
Methodis: FUCK THIS, I'M OUT

*does a 360*

Methodis: HOW THE FUCK YOU GET IN FRONT OF ME?

real talk, Methodis' joke was stale is fuck and y'all are fools for getting tricked, but this is :rofl
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 19, 2011, 11:53:55 PM
look, it's methodis
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2011, 12:20:22 AM
I wonder if it will even be called a "PlayStation _______" in the US.  I could see it taking on some cutesy or clever yet non-clever name in the usual Web 2.0 device fashion.

really, if it isn't called Playstation something after they're rolling out this 'Playstation certified' nonsense and extending the brand, it would be completely perplexing and fit Sony's M.O.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 20, 2011, 12:36:48 AM
It's an old joke, guys.

It's an old joke, guys.

It's an old joke, guys.

Congratulation guys, you got trolled by a 5 year old lame joke, posted by Methodis. Here's a pistol.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 20, 2011, 12:55:11 AM
It's only a successful troll if anyone actually cares.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 20, 2011, 01:13:09 AM
Pretty much

(http://i.imgur.com/jcpGI.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 20, 2011, 01:14:25 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/9NF4F.gif)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Trent Dole on February 20, 2011, 01:30:08 AM
i don't really care what they call it

well, maybe if they called it COCKSUCKING ASS FACE, that might be a problem in casual conversation
I'd buy a COCKSUCKING ASS FACE  8)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Jabberwocky on February 20, 2011, 03:42:13 AM
You guys are pretty good at killing the hype for this thing.

The big problem I personally have with the 3DS is it's the kind of system we get from Nintendo when they feel they have no competition. There are a lot of truly WTF design decisions that probably wouldn't have been overlooked had they felt they were in hot water (obscenely high price? complete disregard for lefties, despite your most prominent game designer being one himself?). It also utterly shatters most of the foundations laid by the original DS. As just mentioned, any games that use both buttons and the touch screen will likely be inaccessible to lefties, and from a game designer's standpoint, that's terribly irksome. I'd want everyone to play my games.

Also, because of "TEH 3DZ!!1", there probably won't be as many touch screen games that use both screens (think TWEWY). Switching between the non-3D, smaller touch screen and the larger 3D top screen would be incredibly jarring. And games that use book mode? Kiss that goodbye, because 3D doesn't work when the screen is vertical. The whole system is an asymmetrical mess of a design.

But perhaps the biggest problem I have with the system is that it doesn't bring enough new things to the table. Sure, it has some things that the DS didn't have - gyro, motion sensing, AR, ONE "slide pad". But aside from the latter 2, most mobile gaming platforms have those things already. And the fact that the touch screen still isn't multitouch - seriously, why? I understand that most of the time you'll be using a stylus, so it might seem redundant, but it would have been nice to have the option there. And this is where it gets really ironic - the NGP does everything the 3DS does and more, all the while pushing more polygons at once. The only thing the 3DS has that the NGP doesn't is in its name - 3D. And what does that bring to the table other than last generation graphics with a slightly twangier twang? The NGP has everything the 3DS should have - multitouch, rear trackpad, dual analogues. Aside from sales (admittedly a large factor), there literally won't be any reason for developers to not port their 3DS games to NGP or make nothing but multiplatform games (see the early 360/PS3 situation). And judging from Yoshinori Ono's recent comments, developers are already complaining about 3DS's [lack of] functionality - going by this, I can't help but feel the same fate will fall the 3DS late in its life that happened to the DS - that is, nearly all major Japanese support being dropped in favor of its competitor (compare the 2009-2011 releases on the PSP compared to the DS. Come 2010, nearly all DS support by Jap devs had been dropped). I can already see Jap developers switching over to NGP later in its life like they did with the PSP.

And that's the problem - Nintendo just doesn't seem like they're being competitive enough with the 3DS. Like they don't care if the same fate befalls the 3DS that befell the DS (with regard to Japanese support), or if it really is lacking in functionality/processing power (if rumored specs are to be believed, larger environments are a bit of a pain to pull off on the 3DS). And once again, it shatters the foundations of the DS and Wii by bringing little to the table gameplay-wise. Sony's next portable has more inputs than Nintendo's. They're not just trying to take a slice of the cake anymore like they did with Move. They're trying to take the whole cake. But does Nintendo care? Why should they? They're riding off the most successful portable of all time (+ OMG 3D). They don't have anything to worry about, right? Well, they don't seem to think so.

At this rate, the only reason I'm considering buying one at launch is because my DS broke last summer and I've still got a massive backlog of games I'd like to play. If not for that, I probably wouldn't be buying a 3DS for 2-3 years after it launched. I backed the DS before it even launched and was a pretty big fan of the system throughout, but I'm really disappointed with what I've seen of the 3DS so far. Granted, the 3DS will eventually have its own wonderful lineup of games (every system does), and it'll eventually be a "worthy" gaming system. But as a Nintendo portable and a successor to the DS, I can't help but say I expected a little more.

TL;DR
spoiler (click to show/hide)
3DS is Nintendo sucking its own cock
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Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 20, 2011, 06:24:18 AM
I'm sorry koskos but he brought the real talk: Wipeout HD > your face.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 20, 2011, 06:43:19 AM
PSP in the West?Bomba

As as hardware device it sold well but nobody is buying games and yet system is still selling somewhat,why?

have no clue,especially since piracy has been hard(impossible) on any new system that has firmware beyond 5.03(things might have changed recently i think)...the most reasonable thing i can think off is that Sony is pushing it because they plan to release successor and  dropping PSP would look bad for them or maybe we should divide PSP sales by 3,dunno

little anecdotal stuff,like a month ago in some small store that sells nothing except various HDTVs,laptops and cellphones I saw something at a premium position...PSP Go :lol

When you look at software sales since like 2008,oh boy
UK top 40 charts are like deadzone for PSP and most of the time you need like few thousands to get into top 40 and yet PSP-0
January US data has $10 million software,one year before PSP2 hits
DS is $72 million,one month before 3DS
It's a device that made developers return dev kits, publicly ...that alone qualifies it as a huge disappointment,loser,etc
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 20, 2011, 07:40:40 AM
herbivores can be aggressive
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 20, 2011, 08:19:46 AM
PlayStation Tallywhacker
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 20, 2011, 08:22:19 AM
Playstation 4lyfe would be a cool name, also it would validate their crazy fanbase.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 20, 2011, 08:32:20 AM
I wonder if it will even be called a "PlayStation _______" in the US.  I could see it taking on some cutesy or clever yet non-clever name in the usual Web 2.0 device fashion.

really, if it isn't called Playstation something after they're rolling out this 'Playstation certified' nonsense and extending the brand, it would be completely perplexing and fit Sony's M.O.


I don't know, "PlayStation certified" refers to the software.  In the situations where console manufacturers dissociated their name from their product (Nintendo with the Wii), they didn't completely remove their branding.  So I still think the NGP will be called some stupid shit like "Zoob," at least in the US.

Jabberwocky: I agree with your post but this machine fits well with Nintendo's MO in the past 6-7 years: unambitious hardware with a gimmick designed to make people overvalue the hardware.  Nintendo puts in minimal effort so even if it tanks, Nintendo can make money with each unit sold.  Nintendo cynically calculates all of the options so they still come out ahead in the end.  I hope their "Well, we're pricing it at $250 but we could have priced it at $300-400 you fucking ingrates" line will come back to bite them in the ass, much like Sony's "lol, you need to work a second job for the PS3" line.  This all depends on the strategy on a company who makes bungled decision after bungled decision.

In the end, I care about the games more than anything else and the 3DS software looks horrendous at this point.  Their biggest game is an extremely half assed port of a 13 year old game.  I'm sure third parties may come through with the quality but compare that to their flagship DS first party launch title and see how Nintendo's effort has regressed over time.  The NGP has the games and if they launch at $300, they can embarrass the 3DS.  It comes down to how Sony promotes the thing.  Sony's all around incompetence is a valid concern and given the uphill battle they will have to trek with the NGP, I could see Sony essentially handing American and European marketshare over to Nintendo, essentially rewarding laziness and cynicism due to incompetence.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 20, 2011, 08:33:20 AM
I think it will be something simple,3 letters thing,like 3DS

Playstation will remain,so

P**

someone could easily write software to go through available combinations,reasonable assumption is that numbers are last(if any)

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 20, 2011, 08:35:37 AM
Zoob means penis in Arabic, Experiment. Just Sayin'.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Yeti on February 20, 2011, 04:06:23 PM
Zoob means penis in Arabic, Experiment. Just Sayin'.

Just what I was thinking, but we use "zib" around my parts.

So when Bill Cosby said "Zoob zib zobbedy dobbedy", he really mean.... :o
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 21, 2011, 09:58:38 AM
I never find Cosby impersonations accurate. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 21, 2011, 10:19:39 AM
Well I don't really speak Arabic, I just know how to say "Penis" in 12 languages.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 21, 2011, 02:28:54 PM
(http://www.inovasi-mobiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/558cecfaae993000.jpg.jpg)
(http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/112/1124548/super-monkey-ball-3ds-20100930083221496_640w.jpg)

One of these is $2.99
One of these is $39.99

This is why I can't get excited about 3DS
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Raban on February 21, 2011, 02:42:51 PM
/thread
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Herr Mafflard on February 21, 2011, 02:45:22 PM
Yep - 3DS's limited hardware capabilities means its games will be compared to cheap iOS games, rather than PSP2 titles, whose high graphical fidelity and dual-analog control system makes its games comparable to their console counterparts, somewhat justifying their prices (ie, Uncharted).

The only way 3DS could justify the price of its games is with core Nintendo titles like Zelda or Mario. I believe full priced, third-party games may have some trouble selling on the 3DS. Also, I think the 3D gimmick is gonna get old fast - I mean once you've passed the initial wow factor of it, most people are just gonna turn it off as to not stress their eyes during long gaming sessions. The 3DS itself will sell bucketloads, though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Bebpo on February 21, 2011, 03:35:13 PM
(http://www.inovasi-mobiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/558cecfaae993000.jpg.jpg)
(http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/112/1124548/super-monkey-ball-3ds-20100930083221496_640w.jpg)

One of these is $2.99
One of these is $39.99

This is why I can't get excited about 3DS

Hey now, at least SMB 3DS has an analog.  That should count for something!  :lol
Did you try playing the SMB titles on the DS with a d-pad?  Ughhhhh.  I can't even imagine playing it with no button iphone.  The motion controlled Wii one was terrible controls too.

But all in all, the control scheme doesn't matter because it's not like Sega has put any effort into making a quality SMB game since SMB2.  Without Nagoshi personally invested, that series doesn't really exist anymore. 

SMB1/2 on GC are still fuck awesome though :rock

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 21, 2011, 08:18:15 PM
Super Monkey Ball on iphone is fucking unplayable. I always get the sense that people will put up with the most broken andor uber tame shit on the ios service because it was cheap.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 21, 2011, 10:39:37 PM
I would like monkey ball to be on the 3dsware for a cheaper price for sure, but its often disingenuous and downright stupid how the same people who have been giving nintendo flak for all their odd hardware philosophies since the ds are the same people who praise ios gaming to high heaven.  The only advantage as far as I'm concerned is that apps are priced in accordance with what I think is ultimately beneficial for the industry- simpler games based on accessible fun concepts for a few bucks.   But games like Super Monkey Ball ios are frustratingly unplayable trash due to the constraints of the system, and this would be a case where there is no doubt in my mind that the 3ds version will be several orders of magnitude better due to the controls.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 21, 2011, 11:28:22 PM
Funny, I rock the shit out of SMB2 on my iphone
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Purple Filth on February 21, 2011, 11:45:03 PM
I think it will be something simple,3 letters thing,like 3DS

Playstation will remain,so

P**

someone could easily write software to go through available combinations,reasonable assumption is that numbers are last(if any)




POS is my guess  :lol

glad to see the "3ds will be your lord and saviour, Jesus Christ" mantra has stopped somewhat.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 22, 2011, 12:23:25 AM
Funny, I rock the shit out of SMB2 on my iphone

Liar.

Tilt to Live is fun though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 22, 2011, 12:32:21 AM
Super Monkey Ball Wii is shockingly awful.  Controls and game design busted.  Total turd total.

but :bow Marble Saga Kororinpa :bow2

Agree with Bebpo that Monkey Ball games had a huge drop in quality.

And you know the 3DS Monkey Ball is going to suck because they're throwing in turdy looking Mario Kart and Smash Bros clones.  They did that with the Wii version, only with Mario Party.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 22, 2011, 07:00:37 PM
well, there is a US launch list now
Quote
    * Pilotwings Resort
    * Steel Diver
    * Nintendogs + Cats
    * Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition
    * The Sims 3
    * Madden NFL Football
    * Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 3D
    * Lego Star Wars III: The Clone Wars
    * Ridge Racer 3D
    * Super Monkey Ball 3D
    * Bust-A-Move Universe
    * Samurai Warriors: Chronicles
    * Asphalt 3D
    * Combat of Giants: Dinosaurs 3D
    * Rayman 3D
    * Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Shadow Wars

Games are $40

Pilotwings is only glider, jetpack and plane, and only on that one Wii Sports Resort island, with 40 'challenges'.  $39.99.  Great value.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 22, 2011, 08:31:51 PM
 ::)

Look, a capacitive touchscreen is not better than using a stylus for things like line drawing, gestural drawing, etc.  If you ever pay attention to games like flight control and such, the game does much correcting of your line on the fly.  It does a pretty good job! but its akin to aim assist in dual analog fps.  Sometimes it doesn't matter so much like in turn based puzzle games or stuff with simple gestures like flick kick football. I would never ever ever want to play a game like Ninja Gaiden dragon sword or phantom hourgalss or trauma center or meteos or ouendan on the ipod though.  Yet conversely, anything on the ios outside of multitouch mechanisms would transfer over fine.  Not hating on the tilt except in the case of Super Monkey Ball controlling like shit.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 22, 2011, 08:32:48 PM
although I think the 3ds is designed in such a way to discourage games like trauma center  :'(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Damian79 on February 22, 2011, 08:45:54 PM
Of all the launch titles, the only game i care about is the Ghost Recon game by Jullian Gallop

the rest? just not that interested - Ridge , Pro Evo, SF4 and pilotwings maybe slightly but only slightly.

Also - Nintendo fans are awesome re: controls!

Nintendo fans on Ipad/iphone : ugh touch and tilt controls ? :( you can't play games on that - there's no controls!
This is a disaster!
Nintendo fans on 3ds : Awesome nub, digital and touch screen! Gyros and a camera! Incredible and we don't need a second nub because we can use the touch screen.
God's hand held! ultimate win!
Nintendo fans on NGP : TOO MANY CONTROLS, touch front and back, two numbs, camera, 3 gyros.
This is a disaster!

The ipad iphone touch controls are GARBAGE.  PURE GARBAGE.

NGP's controls are better than the 3ds but touch screen controsl in the back arent needed.

3ds controls make the touch screen irrelevant.  Dumb move by Nintnendo.


Overall NGP wins in this regard.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 22, 2011, 08:56:43 PM
sorry, emcee.  capacitive is irrefutably superior to resistive.  Stylus exists for capacitive screens. most devices just don't use them because, you know, it's a hell of a lot more convenient to use any of your ten fingers.  On that, capacitive screens are multi-touch so you're not restricted to just one area to touch.  iPhone has already has shown how much that helps for various apps and games.  Personally I think a multi-touch Ouendan and Trauma Center would kick ass.  And that accuracy argument fails because the DS/3DS have small screens.  A point on the 3 inch DS screen is probably comparable to a finger size on the 5 inch PSP2 screen; not to mention the entire resolution thing.  And a nice glass screen or quality screen that your finger can glide on is way better than low quality resistive screens.

There is a good reason why no one uses resistive screens anymore.  Dated, old and limiting technology.  Embrace the future world of ~2007, Nintendo.

To be fair, nothing is creative unless Nintendo says it is, like two screens and a scale.  Back screen? irrelevant.  Pulse sensor? OMG DYNAMIC SURIVOL HORROR GAMES NINTENO SUGOI
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Damian79 on February 22, 2011, 09:03:56 PM
But the ipod touch screens are GARBAGE.  Very unresponsive.  The sole reason i am getting a 3ds is because i bought an ipod touch and found it that bad i returned it.  And i only had a year to spend all the credit.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 22, 2011, 09:13:11 PM
that's true but I was essentially devolving the point into "'your luddite self' nintendo"

The DS resolution was very low.  If you've ever used a DS XL before, and this is no hyperbole, you can point out individual pixels.  I remember trying to draw an emblem for Mario Kart DS before getting fed up and switched to the d-pad.  3DS is a slight improvement for touch screen resolution.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Damian79 on February 22, 2011, 09:17:05 PM
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The ipad iphone touch controls are GARBAGE.  PURE GARBAGE

they are?

depends on the game, as far as i can see to date.


They are bad because you need to press relatively hard to get a response.  With the ds you only need a light touch.  This is because the ipod touch is designed to be carried in your pocket and designed so that it doesnt get affected by simple walking.

And i meant ipod not ipad.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 22, 2011, 09:36:44 PM
lol that is a complete 360 from my experience

My finger glides over my first gen ipod touch.  I've used my friend's iphone 4 and it's even better.  That compared any of my three DS systems where you need to press slightly instead of simply touching.  Moving once you pressed, like for aiming in games, feels much better on the ipods/phones/pads too.

Sometimes it can feel bad depending on the software, though.  Kinda random, but I like what Kid Icarus is doing.  Instead of dragging the cursor around the screen, you just flick and the cursor moves on its own, then you tap again to stop it.  My hp netbook has the same option for the touch pad and there have been iphone games like that too.  Feels like a virtual track ball.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Damian79 on February 22, 2011, 09:44:27 PM
Very strange.  Maybe i got a faulty ipod?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 22, 2011, 11:56:50 PM
Sorry linkzg, capacitive is great for accessible interface stuff but I find it to be too inexact for anything requiring precision.  There's a reason things like text entry have the letter blow up and to the side of your finger.  Seriously, imagine trying to play og trauma center on an iphone, its hard enough on the ds.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: cool breeze on February 23, 2011, 12:27:50 AM
You misunderstood me.  Those are facts I posted; they are irrefutable.

One of the facts states that stylus for capacitive screens exist.

(and I played trauma center on the ds and wii and it was maddening and awesome in either form.  Would probably kick ass on iphone, if not substantially more because of EXTREME multi-touch / multi-tasking procedures.)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 23, 2011, 12:43:07 AM
No, just no.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: maxy on February 23, 2011, 04:55:44 AM
Few more days

juicy sales figures :drool
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 23, 2011, 04:58:54 AM
I personally don't think capacitive screens lack percision, but fingers covering the screen is definitelly an issue, which is why some games have you picking some kind of object, sticking out so you know the exact position, or simply displays the smaller objects a few pixels above your finger, and from there the movement is almost 1:1.

Either way I think ignoring all the advantages capacitive screens have over the 3DS' touchscreen by yelling "TRAUMA CENTER" in every thread is a bit disingenuous. Both are at fault for mostly relying on touch controls for UI navigation too.

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The ipad iphone touch controls are GARBAGE.  PURE GARBAGE

they are?

depends on the game, as far as i can see to date.


They are bad because you need to press relatively hard to get a response.  With the ds you only need a light touch.  This is because the ipod touch is designed to be carried in your pocket and designed so that it doesnt get affected by simple walking.

And i meant ipod not ipad.  Sorry.

If your device requires more than lightest touch/glide to get a response then you definitely have a faulty one.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 23, 2011, 05:16:38 AM
Thread title updated to reflect the mood here(everywhere).Will bring updates as i see them.

New thread for detailed impressions would be nice,no point in burying everything in mega-threads
If somebody here buys it,of course

DC?
 :)

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 23, 2011, 05:23:21 AM
non important Famitsu scores

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Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition: 9, 8, 8, 9
Samurai Warriors Chronicles: 9, 9, 8, 8
Winning Eleven 3D Soccer: 8, 8, 8, 8
Puzzle Bobble 3D: 6, 6, 6, 6
Nintendogs cats: 10, 9, 9, 10
Ridge Racer 3D: 8, 8, 7, 9
Combat of Giants Dinosaur 3D: 6, 6, 6, 5
Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask: 8, 8, 8, 8
Shanghai 3D Cube: 7, 7, 7, 5
Super Monkey Ball 3D: 9, 8, 8, 7
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: pilonv1 on February 23, 2011, 06:42:16 AM
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Super Monkey Ball 3D: 9, 8, 8, 7

lol ok
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 23, 2011, 06:53:28 AM
Yeah, I was thinking of the same thing. Here are the Famitsu scores, adjusted for inflation.

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Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition: 8, 7, 7, 8
Samurai Warriors Chronicles: 7, 7, 6, 6
Winning Eleven 3D Soccer: 7, 7, 7, 7
Puzzle Bobble 3D: 5, 5, 5, 5
Nintendo Dogs cats: 8, 7, 7, 8
Ridge Racer 3D: 6, 6, 5, 7
Combat of Giants Dinosaur 3D: 5, 5, 5, 4
Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask: 8, 8, 8, 8
Shanghai 3D Cube: 6, 6, 6, 5
Super Monkey Ball 3D: 7, 6, 6, 5

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What? I like Layton.
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Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS EU/US launch- $250, March 27 (US),March 25(EU,about £220/€250)
Post by: naff on February 23, 2011, 06:56:22 AM
They are bad because you need to press relatively hard to get a response.  With the ds you only need a light touch.  This is because the ipod touch is designed to be carried in your pocket and designed so that it doesnt get affected by simple walking.

And i meant ipod not ipad.  Sorry.

ostylus.com (http://ostylus.com)

Not as precise a stylus as DS buts those demos look pretty buttery smooth to me. Obviously not as precision as a resistive screen with a stylus, but capacitive screens are intended for fingers not stylus's
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: magus on February 23, 2011, 07:03:27 AM
i'm surprised layton is that low,i tought everybody was gaga for him over there?

WORST LAYTON EVER CONFIRMED
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Diunx on February 23, 2011, 10:15:22 AM
Aren't you allowed to own pets or something in japan? What's the obsession with this shitty pet simulator?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Diunx on February 23, 2011, 11:01:48 AM
Woah! Wtf dude are you calling me a pedo?
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the younger I go for is 15 :teehee
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Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 23, 2011, 02:39:57 PM
XFE reigns supreme once again. Japan annihilated
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: bork on February 23, 2011, 02:53:32 PM
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DC?

i have no preorder to date - i may pop to shibuya, shinjuku or Akihabara to cover the launch i guess but that's no guarantee that i would buy a machine on the day - again... not sure what i would buy (which is usually short hand for '6 games i don't want' but i really can't justify the purchase)



If not for Street Fighter, there's no way I'd buy one at launch.  I also want Ridge Racer and Samurai Warriors, but both of those look like the same ol', same ol' anyway.  It's really a mediocre launch.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: cool breeze on February 23, 2011, 03:24:38 PM
:fbm
I feel completely nuts for wanting to buy the hardware and no games.  I mean, it is really hard to be rational around shiny new hardware, but there is nothing I want to play.  The only solace is knowing those N64 ports are coming out in 2011 too.  At least I don't need to wait too long to have a game I want, and I can play blurry looking DS games on smaller screens than my DSi!  I might just get pilotwings and hope it isn't as disappointing slim as WSR was.  They have to have something unlockable, like a bird suit or an extra level or anything.  Just copy and paste the N64 levels if you must; no one would know the difference.

To be fair, I feel the same way about the PSP2.  I'm more excited about the hardware than the actual games for now (except for Gravity Daze).  The nice thing for that is that PSP games will look and play better on it :rock
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: bork on February 23, 2011, 04:08:06 PM
:fbm
I feel completely nuts for wanting to buy the hardware and no games.  I mean, it is really hard to be rational around shiny new hardware, but there is nothing I want to play.  The only solace is knowing those N64 ports are coming out in 2011 too.  At least I don't need to wait too long to have a game I want, and I can play blurry looking DS games on smaller screens than my DSi!  I might just get pilotwings and hope it isn't as disappointing slim as WSR was.  They have to have something unlockable, like a bird suit or an extra level or anything.  Just copy and paste the N64 levels if you must; no one would know the difference.

To be fair, I feel the same way about the PSP2.  I'm more excited about the hardware than the actual games for now (except for Gravity Daze).  The nice thing for that is that PSP games will look and play better on it :rock

I don't see the point in buying a 3DS at launch if nothing really appeals to you.  Just wait.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 23, 2011, 05:03:05 PM
I think I'm gonna give into my nintard impulses and buy one at launch.  Probably gonna pick up steel diver, pilotwings and resident evil mercenaries. Oh and pokemon white.  Oh and the handful of good dsi releases.  I hope they get around to releasing Link's awakening on the vc super quick too.

Wait this is all over 400 dollars.  Maybe I'll just spend the 80 bucks to get my ipod fixed.

fake edit: Mercenaries ISNT out at launch? What the hell it seems like something one could crap out in no time.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 23, 2011, 05:04:54 PM
why are we mad about the musou scores again? too high or too low?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: pilonv1 on February 24, 2011, 03:39:58 AM
Pilotwings and that submarine game aren't being released at launch in Australia. Which means Nintendogs & Cats and Street Fighter 4 (locally distributed by Nintendo, Capcom don't have a local office) are the only Nintendo distributed games at launch. What an awesome lineup!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 24, 2011, 03:51:08 AM
(http://i54.tinypic.com/xp08ox.jpg)


via neofig
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Unclairty make me upset so I decided to call them to confirm about same-day sales you are right, according to the random clerk on the phone same-day sales(launch day sales) are limited to only those with reservations

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 24, 2011, 03:53:51 AM
According to Famitsu the 3D was added later in the design process, and the gyro was super last-minute.

Makes me wonder WTF they were thinking of shipping in the first place. smh
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: pilonv1 on February 24, 2011, 04:14:10 AM
Must have been feeling the hurt from Sony

...

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I mean Apple
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:teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: naff on February 24, 2011, 04:25:28 AM
Isn't 3D the only thing going for the 3DS? Surely it was one of the main lines of thought when developing the thing.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 24, 2011, 05:01:58 AM
I'm literally crossing my fingers for the reports of about stretched DS games being inaccurate. Nobody is this dumb people, there has to be some kind of display option. Why doesn't Nintendo want my money? :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 24, 2011, 07:55:41 AM
According to Famitsu the 3D was added later in the design process, and the gyro was super last-minute.

Makes me wonder WTF they were thinking of shipping in the first place. smh

The iwata asks covering the hardware has a segment where the lead hardware engineer guy was talking about how they had very good graphical yields... and then they told him about the 3d screen like halfway through the process.  Took a hit obviously.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 24, 2011, 08:12:03 AM
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Weekly Famitsu provided previews of all the launch titles this week along with check lists for what's used and what isn't used. Here's a game-by-game look:

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/02/24/3ds_launch_functionality/ (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/02/24/3ds_launch_functionality/)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 24, 2011, 08:18:52 AM
3D, StreetPass, SpotPass, Game Coins, AR Cards, and not to mention the gyro, camera, and mic standards. I gotta say, Nintendo really injected this device with a large dose of novelty, and I personally respect that, even though none of them interest me.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Dickie Dee on February 24, 2011, 09:54:32 AM
I'm actually pretty interested in the AR games. I'm not saying I'll be interested for more than 10 minutes, but at the moment I am interested.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: magus on February 24, 2011, 10:05:12 AM
what's the difference between streetpass and spotpass? i tought it was the same thing? ??? (trading info with other 3ds you find around)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 24, 2011, 11:52:15 AM
Maybe I'll beat up some little kid on the playground and steal his
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 24, 2011, 11:57:29 AM
Do you have blue or black DS?
Ask someone to try it and then switch,he won't notice
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: magus on February 24, 2011, 12:46:26 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSCv0e2JAEA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Trent Dole on February 24, 2011, 03:57:58 PM
Ridge Racer has some impressive load times for solid state media, wtf. ???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 24, 2011, 04:05:39 PM
More RAM=more time to fill it
Cheap SS media

Namco doesn't care
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 24, 2011, 04:44:23 PM
It has to fill at least 64MB,DS has like 4MB

They might be using similar cartridges,who knows 


 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: originalz on February 24, 2011, 08:17:21 PM
I was talking to a friend of mine who's literally the example of a super-casual gamer that only plays Mario and other simple shit, she tried out the 3DS at a store and was really impressed by it and wants to get the system eventually.

I really need to go to a damn store and test the thing out, everytime I'm in an area where I could I never remember since I rarely go into these stores.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 24, 2011, 09:42:32 PM
I think the load times are Namco and others compressing a lot of information on smaller cards.  Bigger card are obviously more expensive but would solve the load time issue.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: pilonv1 on February 24, 2011, 11:31:37 PM
Got getting sick of seeing "-without the need for special glasses" from PR in my inbox this week. It's driving me insane.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on February 24, 2011, 11:31:57 PM
pardon me for being a luddite.  But if the 3DS is basically using the same data format as the DS, and if there's games coming like, I dunno, a straight port of a DVD-bursting game like Metal Gear Solid 3, how the eff does that work?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: pilonv1 on February 25, 2011, 12:55:57 AM
Someone should do a pic of some MGS/FF game with 20 carts like the 360 verison of FFXIII
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 25, 2011, 01:02:42 AM
New carts support up to 2gbs right?  Since carts are so much faster than optical media, it should be possible to compress 4gbs into those carts and still end up with faster loading times. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 25, 2011, 01:58:47 AM
(http://i54.tinypic.com/xp08ox.jpg)


via neofig
Quote
Unclairty make me upset so I decided to call them to confirm about same-day sales you are right, according to the random clerk on the phone same-day sales(launch day sales) are limited to only those with reservations


Not that it's all that important, but that's not what the sign says. Reservations are only for sales prior to normal opening hours, i.e. from 8.30 am (electronics stores normally open from 10am)

Whether this means you have any shot at getting one if you show up tomorrow without a reservation, I dunno.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 25, 2011, 03:32:31 AM
New Steel Driver details

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Multiplayer mode, or "Naval Battle Mode," is set up like a turn-based gridded strategy game, only you're unable to see your opponent's ships at the start. You can play this mode using download play, meaning you'll just need one game card for two players.

You and your opponent have a set of submarines, freighter ships and escort ships. The submarines are the only ships that can enter enemy territory. The escort ships can attack enemy subs who've crossed over. The freighters can't engage in combat. If your freighters all sink, you lose the battle.

(http://www.andriasang.com/blog/2011/02/25/steel_diver_multiplayer/2132441594.jpg)(http://www.andriasang.com/blog/2011/02/25/steel_diver_multiplayer/2132441595.jpg)


http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/02/25/steel_diver_multiplayer/ (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/02/25/steel_diver_multiplayer/)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 25, 2011, 09:11:26 AM
:(

Moon people, please ask about the BC: is stretched up screens the only way to go or not?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 25, 2011, 09:17:25 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=revAXc2d514[/youtube]

testing,testing
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 25, 2011, 10:21:21 AM
(http://oi52.tinypic.com/eg7q7b.jpg)

Yes! A line! I'm so excited!


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With many stores going pre-order only, the 3DS launch looked like it might be uneventful as far as lines go. But it turns out that there are some major retailers accepting same-day sales, and lines have already started forming.

As reported at Inside Games, the large Yodobashi Camera in Akihabara had a line of 100 people by 23:00, an hour after the shop's closing.

Yodobashi Camera is, according to Inside Games, the only shop in Akihabara that's selling same-day systems. All other shops in the area are apparently pre-order only. Even Yodobashi did not confirm that it would have same day sales until closing time earlier today.

The Akihabara Yodobashi Camera also took pre-orders back in January, but sold out immediately. The shop will be opening at 8:30 exclusively for those who pre-ordered. Those who are lining up for same day sales will have to wait until the normal opening time of 9:30.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: magus on February 25, 2011, 11:49:04 AM
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/02/26/3ds_manuals/

DO NOT PUT THE 3DS UP IN YOUR ASS
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 25, 2011, 01:01:38 PM
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/02/26/3ds_manuals/

DO NOT PUT THE 3DS UP IN YOUR ASS


OR,DO NOT SWALLOW!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 25, 2011, 04:44:04 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ZA5wa.jpg)

Shipped to SoCal
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 25, 2011, 04:48:23 PM
No offense, but with the region locking in place, that person is an idiot, that is unless he reads/speaks the moon language fluently.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 25, 2011, 04:49:36 PM
madness begins

02.45
(http://i54.tinypic.com/rh60zo.jpg)


04.15
(http://i54.tinypic.com/1zvek9.jpg)


Nerds,2 am...pffft

no alcohol or hot girls=me not moving after dark


Quote
No offense, but with the region locking in place, that person is an idiot, that is unless he reads/speaks the moon language fluently.

I suppose he does,you can't be that stupid,right?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 25, 2011, 04:53:50 PM
No offense, but with the region locking in place, that person is an idiot, that is unless he reads/speaks the moon language fluently.

Considering it is region locked, it makes sense to have a jpn unit to pick up the games that don't require a grasp of the lanquage to play but will never be localised for the usa.  I got throught the japanese ouendan just fine at the time.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Jabberwocky on February 25, 2011, 04:58:51 PM
So this system runs things like a notepad even while a game is running, right? Shouldn't it be possible to have some kind of music program running at the same time too? So you could play MP3 files from the SD card while a game is going on. That way any game could have custom soundtracks. I hope Nintendo implements something like this with an app/firmware update.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 25, 2011, 06:02:20 PM
32 MB is apparently reserved for OS,soo....

more lines

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/19283

Quote
First for the 1000 3DS units at Yodobashi Camera.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: bork on February 25, 2011, 06:38:56 PM
No offense, but with the region locking in place, that person is an idiot, that is unless he reads/speaks the moon language fluently.

Considering it is region locked, it makes sense to have a jpn unit to pick up the games that don't require a grasp of the lanquage to play but will never be localised for the usa.  I got throught the japanese ouendan just fine at the time.

It doesn't make sense at almost $500 for the 3DS alone, though.  I want me some portable SSF4 too, but people importing now are insane-- the American release is only a month away, and nobody knows if some games will even be compatible with each other online.  I can't imagine online play versus people in Japan working too well on that thing.  Not to mention, WHAT import games?  All that shit is coming out here, too.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 25, 2011, 06:41:38 PM
3DS is definitely not worth eating Wendy's for 3 months. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: magus on February 25, 2011, 06:46:36 PM
professor layton is probably coming in 2012 or something and by that time we will all be dead because of the mayans or something...

anyway those lines really puzzle me like... what the heck are they going to play on it? nintendogs again? are the japanese that bad? (rethoric question)

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 25, 2011, 06:53:41 PM
No offense, but with the region locking in place, that person is an idiot, that is unless he reads/speaks the moon language fluently.

Considering it is region locked, it makes sense to have a jpn unit to pick up the games that don't require a grasp of the lanquage to play but will never be localised for the usa.  I got throught the japanese ouendan just fine at the time.

It doesn't make sense at almost $500 for the 3DS alone, though.  I want me some portable SSF4 too, but people importing now are insane-- the American release is only a month away, and nobody knows if some games will even be compatible with each other online.  I can't imagine online play versus people in Japan working too well on that thing.  Not to mention, WHAT import games?  All that shit is coming out here, too.

(http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/613pKfAm3bL._SL500_300_.jpg)
 :D

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Not buying one.
[close]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 25, 2011, 06:57:20 PM
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what the heck are they going to play on it?

Nintendo games.Games will come,don't hate.

Anyway

New handheld has been born! :-*

To celebrate,I will drink something
 :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: pilonv1 on February 25, 2011, 07:29:36 PM
:drool Wendys
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 25, 2011, 07:32:38 PM
I'd really like to know if there's stretching on legacy DS titles
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 25, 2011, 07:35:55 PM
LOL cvxfreak got one and his first game to play on it is RE Deadly Silence. Looks like it is stretching though. ugh
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: magus on February 25, 2011, 08:02:40 PM
professor layton is probably coming in 2012 or something and by that time we will all be dead because of the mayans or something...

anyway those lines really puzzle me like... what the heck are they going to play on it? Nintendo Dogs again? are the japanese that bad? (rethoric question)



Yeah, only the Japanese line up for new hardware regardless of whether or not the available software is good.   ::)

They're going to play Street Fighter or Musou or Ridge Racer or maybe even Layton and nerd out over having the latest gadget on its day of release.  Some of them will scalp the system.  In other words, it's like every major hardware launch in every territory from the last ten years.

well i wasn't trying to be "boo the japanese!" it's just that everytime a new console get launched there are these "HURR DURR LOOK AT THE JAPANESE LINES!" pics
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 25, 2011, 08:18:54 PM
I don't know why it's noteworthy, either.  People will line up for virtually *anything*. 

Did they line up for your monster gaijin cock?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: originalz on February 25, 2011, 09:07:22 PM
I don't know why it's noteworthy, either.  People will line up for virtually *anything*. 

That goddamn Auntie Annes that opened up in Ikebukuro like half a year ago still has absurd lines.  You'll be waiting 30 minutes minimum to get a pretzel, and if the weather outside is good then forget it.  I've wanted to go there since I used to like the pretzels in the States, but no way in hell am I that desperate.  You'd think the hype would have died down by now, but I guess they like those pretzels!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 25, 2011, 09:12:36 PM
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Abz7YCm3dZQ/SdbqTCwzk-I/AAAAAAAANI4/WpoKjNg7fXE/_IGP2849.JPG)

Not pictured: The other 250 idiots in line waiting at the side of the shop
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: cool breeze on February 25, 2011, 10:54:17 PM
Pilotwings is not part of the japanese launch? I want to see more of that since it might be the only game I'd be willing to get.

oh and the slider is balls.  forgot to mention that.  it's not psp-nub bad, but it's still a fucking slider.

I'm sure a good deal of the people praising it highly are crazy Nintendo people, but I've seen some sane people say it was great too, a lot of times relative to the PSP.  I'd imagine it would be hard to not to be better than a tiny dotted around hard plastic nub.  But yeah, it's still a slider, which is an expected compromise for handhelds.  oh wait.

random thing: The official name is "Circle Pad" for the 3DS.  The one on the PSP was just called an analog stick, and somewhere someone said nub and it stuck.  Previews really play up the newness of the "New Circle Pad" and it's funny how it is part of the feature list and marketing.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 26, 2011, 04:22:54 AM
(http://i53.tinypic.com/i6016p.png)

http://www.justin.tv/RedSunGamer# (http://www.justin.tv/RedSunGamer#)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 26, 2011, 04:54:32 AM
from that stream

-Layton looks great
-Street Fighter looks great
-RR looks shitty,but plays well
-Camera res is shitty
-Internet browser is not working,update needed
-they like 3D effect

Also,that Wendy's gaf dude wrote this

Quote
Boosh, just killed the battery to the point where it would auto shut-off every time I tried to turn it back on.

There was a bit more than 2 hours and 45 minutes straight playing time from full juice with full 3D, full volume, WiFi, AR games, camera taking, etc.

Quote
And just killed the battery again to shut-off. With on and off wi-fi action for about 30 minutes and everything else running at full brightness, 3D, volume, I got about 3 hours and 45 minutes. This was of course with a smattering of SSFIV online battles, more AR games, playing some DS games for about 20 minutes, and again more SSFIV but just single player.

http://www.1up.com/news/video-super-mario-64-3ds (http://www.1up.com/news/video-super-mario-64-3ds)

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 26, 2011, 06:43:20 AM
yay

DC :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: T-Short on February 26, 2011, 06:43:55 AM
http://yfrog.com/h5slgpj
 
:fbm


:drool

spoiler (click to show/hide)
follow'd
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Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 26, 2011, 07:24:53 AM
LOL cvxfreak got one and his first game to play on it is RE Deadly Silence. Looks like it is stretching though. ugh

FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU

Dreams shattered. No 3DS for me this year, gonna have to buy a DSi.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 26, 2011, 07:27:47 AM
Seriously fuck that. Nintendo better offer something better with a firmware update if they want to prove they learned something from the competition.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 26, 2011, 07:34:07 AM
LOL cvxfreak got one and his first game to play on it is RE Deadly Silence. Looks like it is stretching though. ugh

FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU

Dreams shattered. No 3DS for me this year, gonna have to buy a DSi.

Mario is not stretched

http://www.1up.com/news/video-super-mario-64-3ds (http://www.1up.com/news/video-super-mario-64-3ds)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 26, 2011, 07:54:52 AM
:o

Is there an explanation to why it's not stretched? Please don't tell me it's random!

Hope slightly restored.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 26, 2011, 07:59:11 AM
http://yfrog.com/h5slgpj
 
:fbm


:bow

I know I sound like a broken record by now, but test the BC and report findings!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 26, 2011, 08:55:12 AM
:(

Thanks.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: bork on February 26, 2011, 09:02:17 AM
No offense, but with the region locking in place, that person is an idiot, that is unless he reads/speaks the moon language fluently.

Considering it is region locked, it makes sense to have a jpn unit to pick up the games that don't require a grasp of the lanquage to play but will never be localised for the usa.  I got throught the japanese ouendan just fine at the time.

It doesn't make sense at almost $500 for the 3DS alone, though.  I want me some portable SSF4 too, but people importing now are insane-- the American release is only a month away, and nobody knows if some games will even be compatible with each other online.  I can't imagine online play versus people in Japan working too well on that thing.  Not to mention, WHAT import games?  All that shit is coming out here, too.

(http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/613pKfAm3bL._SL500_300_.jpg)
 :D

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Not buying one.
[close]

Not a launch title.

professor layton is probably coming in 2012 or something and by that time we will all be dead because of the mayans or something...

anyway those lines really puzzle me like... what the heck are they going to play on it? Nintendo Dogs again? are the japanese that bad? (rethoric question)



Yeah, only the Japanese line up for new hardware regardless of whether or not the available software is good.   ::)

They're going to play Street Fighter or Musou or Ridge Racer or maybe even Layton and nerd out over having the latest gadget on its day of release.  Some of them will scalp the system.  In other words, it's like every major hardware launch in every territory from the last ten years.

They didn't line up for the 360.   :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 26, 2011, 09:32:09 AM
/real talk

3DS looks like a rushed system,hardware and software

hardware
-at first Nintendo engineers were happy...nice budget,everything is going well(graphics,battery life) and then...let's shoehorn 3D,same budget,device proportions must not change,same battery...
:gloomy 

-Nintendo Elite:battery life is shit,what to do?
-include cheap charging cradle

software
-DS emulation...cheap as possible,buy 3DS games
-3DS games?...waitTM,suckers

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Dickie Dee on February 26, 2011, 10:06:16 AM
DCharlie

how are the packed in AR things? are they neato?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 26, 2011, 10:09:19 AM
I played around with someone's today. It's fairly unappealing, I have to say. The ARG stuff was fun for a while, but I can't see it being a long-term crowd pleaser.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Dickie Dee on February 26, 2011, 10:46:04 AM
I played around with someone's today. It's fairly unappealing, I have to say. The ARG stuff was fun for a while, but I can't see it being a long-term crowd pleaser.

That's basically how I see it  :-\

I'm actually jonesing to try it out but suspect I'll be bored after 10 minutes. 3DS is not pushing my meter up to "buy" yet at all
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 26, 2011, 10:46:40 AM
I'm just going to wait for the inevitable 3DS Lite.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 26, 2011, 10:47:43 AM
there's no accounting for shitty taste! ;)

Yeah, I was really shocked. Preferring a smeared picture over a sharp one, because one of the off-screen photos had a slight blue tint. Okay ::)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: cool breeze on February 26, 2011, 11:04:47 AM
[youtube=560,345]E9a5FjeujS8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 26, 2011, 11:06:20 AM
there's no accounting for shitty taste! ;)

Yeah, I was really shocked. Preferring a smeared picture over a sharp one, because one of the off-screen photos had a slight blue tint. Okay ::)

Are you really shocked?  Cognitive dissonance is a staple "elsewhere" when it comes to fanboy camps.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: magus on February 26, 2011, 11:12:59 AM
kind of a stupid question but do you get any 3D effect out of normal DS game?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 26, 2011, 11:17:14 AM
[youtube=560,345]E9a5FjeujS8[/youtube]


Omg, omg, I've never been happier to see those gorgeous black side-bars. 3DS+R4 GET!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: cool breeze on February 26, 2011, 11:17:18 AM
nope

There were some high expectations for ds emulation on this thing, I think.  but some people consider the circle pad mimicking the DS inputs a game changer, and think that Mario 64DS has analog control now (by emulating the touch screen  ???).
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 26, 2011, 11:25:17 AM
From elsewhere:
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DS mode is 320x240 on both screens, top screen has black borders.

But still looks smeared? I'm confused.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 26, 2011, 11:31:56 AM
yeah, because the ds native resolution is 256x192
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: cool breeze on February 26, 2011, 11:36:43 AM
There is confusion because the top screen is wide, and when you say stretched, people assume the top image is stretched to fill the entire wide screen.  That would change the aspect ratio.  It stretches the image without changing the aspect ratio, but it is still stretching it to fit the 3DS's slightly higher resolution.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 26, 2011, 11:58:10 AM
yeah, because the ds native resolution is 256x192


Haha, I just realized that! For some reason I thought the original DS ran at a 320x240 native resolution.
 So when people were crying "stretched!" I thought they meant stretched to fill the 400-pixel width.
256x192 is just... Painfully piss-poor.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: cool breeze on February 26, 2011, 12:05:29 PM
to be fair, when I think of 320x240 resolution, I think of the mid-2000s.  I can see why it is easy to confuse it with the original DS resolution.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Bebpo on February 26, 2011, 12:06:28 PM
http://yfrog.com/h5slgpj
 
:fbm


Looks like a crowd of angry plastic pac-men ready to eat the 3DS
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 26, 2011, 12:09:33 PM
to be fair, when I think of 320x240 resolution, I think of the mid-2000s.  I can see why it is easy to confuse it with the original DS resolution.

Exactly. So much for being excited about R4 lol. If they somehow offer an option to run games at native resolution it'll be godlike! But I can see an option like that ruining some games that used a portrait view stretched between the two screens, a la Sonic Rush, as the gap and disconnect between the two screens would be wider.

Edit: holy fuck @ bebpo's avatar. My eyes. I can't see anymore!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: magus on February 26, 2011, 12:18:34 PM
sooooooooooooooooooooo since dcharlie owns one + games
is layton the only decent not-a-port game as i keep suspecting? :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 26, 2011, 12:50:05 PM
http://www.nikkei.com/news/headline/article/g=96958A9C93819696E0E4E2E3828DE0E4E2E0E0E2E3E3E2E2E2E2E2E2; (http://www.nikkei.com/news/headline/article/g=96958A9C93819696E0E4E2E3828DE0E4E2E0E0E2E3E3E2E2E2E2E2E2;)

400k sold(first shipment)
 :drool
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: maxy on February 26, 2011, 03:00:17 PM
hey Sho Nuff,did you beat some kid?
 :D
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: Bebpo on February 26, 2011, 03:09:00 PM
http://www.nikkei.com/news/headline/article/g=96958A9C93819696E0E4E2E3828DE0E4E2E0E0E2E3E3E2E2E2E2E2E2; (http://www.nikkei.com/news/headline/article/g=96958A9C93819696E0E4E2E3828DE0E4E2E0E0E2E3E3E2E2E2E2E2E2;)

400k sold(first shipment)
 :drool

Real talk. 

Hasn't every system ever made from the NES to the Jaguar to the PS3 sold out of its initial shipment asap?  I don't really think the first 3 months of hardware sales for a new system matter at all.  What matters is how it's selling a year after launch.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: maxy on February 26, 2011, 03:28:18 PM
launch day sales are easy,but 3DS is no ordinary machine


gaf sales genius posted this
Quote
Famitsu handheld openings

1989.04.21 (Nintendo GameBoy) - unknown (3 days)
1990.10.06 (Sega GameGear) - unknown (2 days)
1995.07.21 (Nintendo VirtualBoy) - unknown (3 days)
1996.07.21 (Nintendo GameBoyPocket) - unknown (1 day)
1998.04.14 (Nintendo GameBoyLight) - unknown (6 days)
1998.10.21 (Nintendo GameBoyColor) - 155.774 (5 days)
1998.10.28 (SNK NeoGeoPocket) - 21.471 (5 days)
1999.03.04 (Bandai WonderSwan) - 102.655 (4 days)
1999.03.19 (SNK NeoGeoPocketColor) - 18.809 (3 days)
2000.12.09 (Bandai WonderSwanColor) - 145.975 (2 days)
2001.03.21 (Nintendo GameBoyAdvance) - 611.504 (5 days)
2002.07.12 (Bandai SwanCrystal) - 30.692 (3 days)
2003.02.14 (Nintendo GameBoyAdvance SP) - 117.859 (3 days)
2004.12.02 (Nintendo DS) - 441.485 (4 days)
2004.12.12 (Sony PSP-1000) - 166.074 (1 day)
2005.09.13 (Nintendo GameBoyMicro) - 148.117 (6 days)
2006.03.02 (Nintendo DS Lite) - 67.653 (4 days)
2007.09.20 (Sony PSP-2000) - 263.538 (4 days)
2008.10.16 (Sony PSP-3000) - 155.720 (4 days)
2008.11.01 (Nintendo DSi) - 170.779 (2 days)
2009.11.01 (Sony PSP Go) - 28.275 (1 day)
2009.11.21 (Nintendo DSi LL) - 103.524 (2 days)
2011.02.26 (Nintendo 3DS) - xxx.xxx (2 days)

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 26, 2011, 06:02:43 PM
So dee charles, any interest in testing out the online stuff in Street Fighter?  I'm very curious in the 3ds online infrastructure.  Can you invite, send messages, etc to people who you have registered?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 26, 2011, 06:07:38 PM
Sprsk confirmed that you can't send messages to people on your friends list, the possibility of that changing in a future firmware update remains to be seen (hint: since it's Nintendo, it probably won't).
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: pilonv1 on February 26, 2011, 07:06:42 PM
Sprsk confirmed that you can't send messages to people on your friends list, the possibility of that changing in a future firmware update remains to be seen (hint: since it's Nintendo, it's probably won't)

What's the point of having a friends list then?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 26, 2011, 07:20:22 PM
I know that's a rhetorical question, but I'm gonna dignify it with an answer:

Watching what people are playing I guess. Messaging is out. PS3-style invites are probably in, cross game invites 360-style seems like a stretch.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 26, 2011, 07:23:21 PM
Fuck this shit

I told myself with the Wii that I was done buying Nintendo hardware, but I wasn't sure I could follow through. I can.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 26, 2011, 07:26:10 PM
You can already send messages on the wii, so I think it would be weird not to be able to do it on the 3ds.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 26, 2011, 07:29:40 PM
It's one of the most basic and logical online implementations, I know. So far we only have sprsk's report as a source, but here's hoping there's more to it, like a confirmation that it would be patched in later like the eStore and web browser.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Diunx on February 26, 2011, 08:33:02 PM
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Abz7YCm3dZQ/SdbqTCwzk-I/AAAAAAAANI4/WpoKjNg7fXE/_IGP2849.JPG)

Not pictured: The other 250 idiots in line waiting at the side of the shop

:lol that happened here last year when KK opened their first store in the country.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 26, 2011, 08:59:31 PM
there are calculators with higher res screens than the original ds
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Purple Filth on February 26, 2011, 11:53:09 PM
Sprsk confirmed that you can't send messages to people on your friends list, the possibility of that changing in a future firmware update remains to be seen (hint: since it's Nintendo, it probably won't).

*if true*

This make no fucking sense.  :wtf
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 26, 2011, 11:55:13 PM
no 3d sexting for ninthings :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Damian79 on February 27, 2011, 02:24:34 AM
Its most likely to prevent pedos as DS's are for kids mostly.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Feb. 26th)
Post by: maxy on February 27, 2011, 04:04:30 AM
LOL cvxfreak got one and his first game to play on it is RE Deadly Silence. Looks like it is stretching though. ugh

FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU

Dreams shattered. No 3DS for me this year, gonna have to buy a DSi.


Dreams restored.
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can 3DS play DS game in 1:1 256x192 mode [not scale] ? yes you can

put down START&SELECT button and enter DS game mode

(http://i.imgur.com/d4dLo.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 27, 2011, 04:22:47 AM
Woohoo! Maybe now I have a reason to beat up a little kid and jack his 3DS. Now I can experience all those existing DS games that I don't play on new hardware, yay
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: maxy on February 27, 2011, 05:25:17 AM
New shipment "suddenly arrived"

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Think the 3DS is impossible to find the day following release? While the system did pretty much disappear in the hours after shops opened yesterday (and in many cases in the hours before too), Nintendo has somehow managed to get out new shipments to a number of shops.

As I covered in my launch center mobile blog, the large Tsutaya retailer in Shibuya suddenly began taking pre-orders yesterday, saying that a new shipment of systems was set to arrive today.
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/02/27/3ds_available/ (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/02/27/3ds_available/)



(http://oi53.tinypic.com/2lavedf.jpg)
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This one is from the Akihabara Sofmap. They apparently couldn't afford a stand for the sign, but the text is the same. Five people were lined up to pick up the sudden shipment, according to Kaztsu.

 :rofl


 :fbm
3DS :piss2

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 27, 2011, 07:35:51 AM
LOL cvxfreak got one and his first game to play on it is RE Deadly Silence. Looks like it is stretching though. ugh

FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU

Dreams shattered. No 3DS for me this year, gonna have to buy a DSi.


Dreams restored.
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can 3DS play DS game in 1:1 256x192 mode [not scale] ? yes you can

put down START&SELECT button and enter DS game mode

(http://i.imgur.com/d4dLo.jpg)

(you're talking about the official firmware not some flashcard feature right? If so...)

FUCK YEAH! DAY 1!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 27, 2011, 08:26:22 AM
(It still sucks that in order to enjoy a 1:1 DS game you have to settle for a less-than 3 in screen size, but that's hardly the 3DS fault)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 27, 2011, 11:58:47 AM
Some of you have weird priorities. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 27, 2011, 12:12:57 PM
None of the 2011 releases are high on my list, so for at least a year and half my 3DS is gonna be used to play DS games first and foremost, with Layton 3DS here and something else there. How is being concerned about the quality of BC that weird?

Don't tell me you're mostly excited about AR gimmicks and QR codes like the others.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 27, 2011, 12:28:27 PM
I'm mostly curious about the 3ds to see how nintendo is going to handle their online infrastructure going forward, particularly the wii successor.  Granted there won't be a complete picture until the store launches in May.  I'm just curious if they are going to institute extensive friend messaging, persistent demos, how they are going to promote digital content in a way that gains attention and garners support, etc.  Pilotwings looks fun too.

I guess I just never understood the obsession forumites have with resolutions.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 27, 2011, 12:35:11 PM
Maybe I take that back
(http://i54.tinypic.com/343gow3.png)

What are gameboy games going to look like running on this?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Herr Mafflard on February 27, 2011, 12:42:59 PM
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What are gameboy games going to look like running on this?


Some of you have weird priorities. 

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 27, 2011, 12:43:09 PM
I'm mostly curious about the 3ds to see how nintendo is going to handle their online infrastructure going forward, particularly the wii successor.  Granted there won't be a complete picture until the store launches in May.  I'm just curious if they are going to institute extensive friend messaging, persistent demos, how they are going to promote digital content in a way that gains attention and garners support, etc.  Pilotwings looks fun too.

We have a good idea of what it can do on launch day regarding the online infrastructure, the rest will have to wait until May. Honestly though I wouldn't get my hopes up, as the first signs on the online front is not encouraging.

I guess I just never understood the obsession forumites have with resolutions.

That's because you're a dirty poor ninthing; you don't care about resolutions, graphics, online implementation, etc until Nintendo tells you to.

[youtube=560,345]qgMlWjZ81fc[/youtube]


Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 27, 2011, 12:51:21 PM
I've always said Nintendo has had bad online implementation!  You don't know me!

And most games these days look like either sanitary plastic people in sanitary plastic environments or ue3 plastic mud piles (although I like me some gears of war textures).  Every 3d generation has been a case of this with gaining polygonal yields.  I've always been more of  a fan of the 'good art' stuff or abstract presentations.  Resolution isn't a selling factor in that equation. Uh, deal with it?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 27, 2011, 01:10:51 PM
"Icing on my cake? No thank you, I'm fine with just a plane cake."
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: magus on February 27, 2011, 01:17:30 PM
doesn't the 3DS launch in march? why you guys are keep saying that we have to wait until may?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Herr Mafflard on February 27, 2011, 01:19:02 PM
And most games these days look like either sanitary plastic people in sanitary plastic environments or ue3 plastic mud piles (although I like me some gears of war textures).  Every 3d generation has been a case of this with gaining polygonal yields.  I've always been more of  a fan of the 'good art' stuff or abstract presentations.  Resolution isn't a selling factor in that equation. Uh, deal with it?


We're all fans of good art. It's just that good art looks better when rendered at higher resolutions w/ a greater number of polygons.

And it's absolutely a selling factor when it comes to 3D games. Well, maybe not for soccer mums and 12 year-old kiddies. But you don't fall into either category do you, Emcee?




Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 27, 2011, 01:21:49 PM
I am somewhat of a manchild.  I don't think that's why I don't care about resolution.  Now, you'll hear me bitch about framerate all the damn time.  I'll give up on a game real quick if its a slow stuttery mess.

edit: There is one situation whereas I do care about resolution.  This happens in slower paced fps multi games.  I've been playing alot of goldeneye wii and it can be hard to scan your environment to pick out the pixels that are out of place and kill said person because of the lower resolution. In this case its a problem that effects my ability to play well.  For aesthetic reasons I don't care ie single player games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 27, 2011, 01:22:50 PM
doesn't the 3DS launch in march? why you guys are keep saying that we have to wait until may?


The estore doesn't launch until may.  Its going to be the most telling factor whether nintendo learned from its mistakes.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: magus on February 27, 2011, 01:25:35 PM
oh you mean the online shop where you are supposed to buy gameboy games? wasn't that supposed to be avaiable at launch? :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Herr Mafflard on February 27, 2011, 01:35:29 PM
I am somewhat of a manchild.  I don't think that's why I don't care about resolution.  Now, you'll hear me bitch about framerate all the damn time.  I'll give up on a game real quick if its a slow stuttery mess.

edit: There is one situation whereas I do care about resolution.  This happens in slower paced fps multi games.  I've been playing alot of goldeneye wii and it can be hard to scan your environment to pick out the pixels that are out of place and kill said person because of the lower resolution. In this case its a problem that effects my ability to play well.  For aesthetic reasons I don't care ie single player games.

Hypothetical question:

Which of these do you prefer Emcee? Bear in mind they both run at 60fps and play almost exactly the same. Or do you still not care because it's only an aesthetic difference?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FOoao2KCSsA/TS-ZiJlx_OI/AAAAAAAABZo/O9BsMZnF_Qo/s1600/shogunexp_screen001.jpg)

(http://pfcdn.net/site/t/content_image/image/44/77/447702__shogun-2-total-war-new-screens-10910.jpeg?85d5b96c08)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 27, 2011, 01:39:22 PM
The second has a more of a plastic and muddy look, while the first looks more abstract and whimsical. I personally prefer the first.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on February 27, 2011, 01:41:39 PM
stupid baka, sprites are always better then some cheap and crappy 3D!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: cool breeze on February 27, 2011, 01:56:42 PM
leave emcee alone! He seems alright for a waggletron.  I mean, the ones on gaf are gushing about various OS features like  :omg changing icon size on the home screen :omg.  Apparently it's sexy, whatever that means anymore.

As for the graphics thing, 99.9% of the time someone claims they don't care, it is a flat out lie.  No offence, emcee.  Feel free to tell me that art matters more than graphics :teehee


spoiler (click to show/hide)
I preordered Pilotwings today.  Pretty sure I'm buying this thing in a month  :fbm
[close]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: SantaC on February 27, 2011, 01:59:44 PM
is paper mario a launch game for the west?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: magus on February 27, 2011, 02:13:43 PM
pretty sure it's not

west gets wii air sport resort (no no wait i got that wrong i mean AWESOME REVIVAL OF PILOT WINGS!) and submarine game
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Jabberwocky on February 27, 2011, 02:50:39 PM
Anyone who has it so far - does this thing really not get any more than 6 hours of battery life? the best impression I've heard so far is 5hrs 15mins. For battery life out the gate, that's absolutely terrible. My OG DS got about 8hrs when I first got it, but when everything was said and done, it ended up having about 4-5 hours each session. I can only imagine what the 3DS's ending battery life is going to be (unless it has a "better" battery in the sense that it won't diminish with time. I obviously don't know much about lith batteries).

Someone on GAF said that the battery life will get better as it's charged fully several times. True or bs? 5 hours is awful.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 27, 2011, 03:49:25 PM
I am somewhat of a manchild.  I don't think that's why I don't care about resolution.  Now, you'll hear me bitch about framerate all the damn time.  I'll give up on a game real quick if its a slow stuttery mess.

edit: There is one situation whereas I do care about resolution.  This happens in slower paced fps multi games.  I've been playing alot of goldeneye wii and it can be hard to scan your environment to pick out the pixels that are out of place and kill said person because of the lower resolution. In this case its a problem that effects my ability to play well.  For aesthetic reasons I don't care ie single player games.

Hypothetical question:

Which of these do you prefer Emcee? Bear in mind they both run at 60fps and play almost exactly the same. Or do you still not care because it's only an aesthetic difference?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FOoao2KCSsA/TS-ZiJlx_OI/AAAAAAAABZo/O9BsMZnF_Qo/s1600/shogunexp_screen001.jpg)

(http://pfcdn.net/site/t/content_image/image/44/77/447702__shogun-2-total-war-new-screens-10910.jpeg?85d5b96c08)


They both look excrutiatingly boring. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 27, 2011, 04:28:47 PM
Some dude on GAF said that going full blast gameplay wise with multiplayer and shit he got 2 hours 45 minutes out of the battery. :/
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: pilonv1 on February 27, 2011, 05:29:05 PM
That's pretty good, since there isn't a game worth playing for 3 hours straight
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Damian79 on February 27, 2011, 05:37:46 PM
Some dude on GAF said that going full blast gameplay wise with multiplayer and shit he got 2 hours 45 minutes out of the battery. :/

Was that with 3d?  Is it better without 3d?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 27, 2011, 05:54:20 PM
With everything cranked up. I the best estimate for a 3DS game so far is 5 hours, that's with everything turned off/down.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 27, 2011, 07:04:16 PM
I am somewhat of a manchild.  I don't think that's why I don't care about resolution.  Now, you'll hear me bitch about framerate all the damn time.  I'll give up on a game real quick if its a slow stuttery mess.

edit: There is one situation whereas I do care about resolution.  This happens in slower paced fps multi games.  I've been playing alot of goldeneye wii and it can be hard to scan your environment to pick out the pixels that are out of place and kill said person because of the lower resolution. In this case its a problem that effects my ability to play well.  For aesthetic reasons I don't care ie single player games.

Hypothetical question:

Which of these do you prefer Emcee? Bear in mind they both run at 60fps and play almost exactly the same. Or do you still not care because it's only an aesthetic difference?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FOoao2KCSsA/TS-ZiJlx_OI/AAAAAAAABZo/O9BsMZnF_Qo/s1600/shogunexp_screen001.jpg)

(http://pfcdn.net/site/t/content_image/image/44/77/447702__shogun-2-total-war-new-screens-10910.jpeg?85d5b96c08)


They both look excrutiatingly boring. 

Clearly not enough whimsy to be interesting.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: archie4208 on February 27, 2011, 07:29:09 PM
History is so grimdark and boring.  There needs to be dragons and giant enemy crabs to make it interesting.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: magus on February 27, 2011, 07:41:02 PM
looks japanese enough to me
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 27, 2011, 07:58:38 PM
looks japanese enough to me


Then where's the schoolgirls and giant robots? Clearly made by someone with no understanding of glorious Nippon culture.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 27, 2011, 09:12:11 PM
History is so grimdark and boring.  There needs to be dragons and giant enemy crabs to make it interesting.

Pretty much, game republic knows what up.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: maxy on February 28, 2011, 03:25:40 AM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-27-european-nintendo-3ds-reviewed (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-27-european-nintendo-3ds-reviewed)

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In our test, a 3DS playing a game (Ridge Racer 3D, since you ask) with the screen brightness and 3D turned up to full and wireless turned on took almost exactly three hours to go from full to empty. That's less than its charge time of three and a half hours. Nintendo has at least included the wireless switch and a power-saving screen dimmer to help you manage your juice. On the plus side, snap 3DS shut at any point and it will keep going in standby seemingly indefinitely, even with StreetPass enabled.

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On the other hand, 3DS does have Nintendo's most usable stab at an operating system to date – an area where the Kyoto company has lagged behind its rivals ever since gaming hardware went multi-purpose. In both hardware and software, 3DS is solidly and thoughtfully designed, right down to DS compatibility (games play very slightly bordered, but look great, and can be controlled with the circle pad as well as the d-pad).

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: maxy on February 28, 2011, 06:08:00 AM
3DS - 371326

Layton - 117589

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201102/28040933.html (http://www.famitsu.com/news/201102/28040933.html)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: maxy on February 28, 2011, 11:00:51 AM
Yeah it looks like 3DS will be media darling,have a good word of mouth(especially when games arrive)

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/291003/nintendo-3ds-review-2011/ (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/291003/nintendo-3ds-review-2011/)

He sounds like a nintard,but i expect that other western media will have similar views
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Verdict
We challenge you to play with the 3DS for an hour and not fall in love with 3D gaming.

Uppers
  Glasses-free 3D gaming is here
  Real visual depth with some 'jump out' moments
  Visuals beyond any other Ninty handheld, regardless of 3D
  Finding the sweet spot isn't difficult
  Augmented Reality shows massive potential
  A bulging, affordable package

Downers
  Battery life could be problematic
  3D image quality varies when 3DS is even slightly moved
  Photos are 2D layers on a 3D plain

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In true Nintendo fashion there's something here for mum, dad, nan and your annoying baby brother. Most importantly for us, though, there's something for the hardcore market - and it's more than a little bit magical.
 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: cool breeze on February 28, 2011, 12:07:53 PM
Yeah it looks like 3DS will be media darling,have a good word of mouth(especially when games arrive)

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/291003/nintendo-3ds-review-2011/ (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/291003/nintendo-3ds-review-2011/)

He sounds like a nintard,but i expect that other western media will have similar views
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Verdict
We challenge you to play with the 3DS for an hour and not fall in love with 3D gaming.

Uppers
  Glasses-free 3D gaming is here
  Real visual depth with some 'jump out' moments
  Visuals beyond any other Ninty handheld, regardless of 3D
  Finding the sweet spot isn't difficult
  Augmented Reality shows massive potential
  A bulging, affordable package

Downers
  Battery life could be problematic
  3D image quality varies when 3DS is even slightly moved
  Photos are 2D layers on a 3D plain

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In true Nintendo fashion there's something here for mum, dad, nan and your annoying baby brother. Most importantly for us, though, there's something for the hardcore market - and it's more than a little bit magical.
 

yes.  Eurogamer had a positive write up as well.

This CVG one is a bit over the top just judging the pro/con section, seeing the contradictions and comment about how it boasts better visuals than older Nintendo handhelds, as if that's laudable.  And saying "ninty" is offensive and should be finable.

Happy that it seemingly turned out better than expected, but it's also hard to tell if its offhand praise because it's new and different, like the Wii.  But there's also this:

(new trailer.  loud noise at the beginning of it, so careful of that.)
[youtube=560,345]b4j83uymhN8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: magus on February 28, 2011, 12:19:20 PM
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A bulging, affordable package

that's still more pricey than a real HD console ::)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Bebpo on February 28, 2011, 12:48:44 PM
Musou is much better than i gave it credit for so far :/

I think lately the musou peoples at Koei have stepped up their game.  All the latest musou stuff has been pretty fun, user friendly and addicting.  Bodes well for DW7.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: originalz on February 28, 2011, 11:34:28 PM
My only concern is that playing with the D-Pad only is kind of uncomfortable with the button positions, especially with the LR buttons.  I tried playing some Super Street Fighter 4 3D Edition with the D-Pad but it was too annoying getting the heavy attacks off, so I just went back to the slider.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 01, 2011, 01:26:28 AM
[youtube=560,345]iMxRGCyGRho[/youtube]

:rofl
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 01, 2011, 01:33:47 AM
:bow Nintendo :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: Bildi on March 01, 2011, 01:50:41 AM
Now THAT might make me buy a 3DS.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: maxy on March 01, 2011, 07:02:48 AM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-01-ridge-racer-3d-review (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-01-ridge-racer-3d-review)

8/10
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 01, 2011, 07:59:14 PM
3D! Dual screens! Dual cameras! Virtual console! Analog slider!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: cool breeze on March 01, 2011, 09:40:25 PM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-02-pilotwings-resort-review?page=1

Pilotwings has wing suits (called squirrel suits in the game).  I take back anything negative I've said about it or the 3DS. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 01, 2011, 10:44:24 PM
Yeah, I came here to post that.  I kinda liked the WSR flight stuff and wanted a whole game around that.  I'll miss the waggle though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on March 01, 2011, 10:48:08 PM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-01-ridge-racer-3d-review (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-01-ridge-racer-3d-review)

8/10
Well, if Ridge Racer Unbounded flops hard like I expect it to, at least there's this.

Hopefully, Namco announces a PSP2 version of this game soon.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS JP launch thread of long lines and juicy sales figures(Out now!!!)
Post by: bork on March 01, 2011, 11:37:28 PM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-01-ridge-racer-3d-review (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-01-ridge-racer-3d-review)

8/10
Well, if Ridge Racer Unbounded flops hard like I expect it to, at least there's this.

Hopefully, Namco announces a PSP2 version of this game soon.

You mean a PSP2 version of the same game they have been rehashing over and over again since Ridge Racers on the original PSP in 2004?  Yeah, they will.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 02, 2011, 12:43:30 AM
I purchased RR7 for 5 bucks and wished I hadn't. So stale and boring and rehash-y. I'd agree it needs a reboot too but not in the Unbounded vein.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: cool breeze on March 04, 2011, 12:48:38 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/03/01/cubic-ninja-is-the-first-3ds-game-without-3d/

for some reason I thought 3DS games required a 3D option to make use of its gimmick.  The excuse for this one is that it uses the motion controls a lot.  I wonder if games will ever ship without 3D because of technical limitations.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: maxy on March 04, 2011, 01:15:22 PM
It was in the thread title once,but Nintendo is not mandating 3D.

Smart decision,i think
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 04, 2011, 06:55:45 PM
I did an extended play session on one of these things at GDC. After about 10 minutes I wanted to blorg up my lunch.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Brehvolution on March 04, 2011, 07:48:14 PM
I learned the most about the 3DS by following DCharlie and Jonnyram's twitter.  :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Damian79 on March 04, 2011, 07:56:17 PM
I did an extended play session on one of these things at GDC. After about 10 minutes I wanted to blorg up my lunch.

IT REJECTED YOU!  Take a hint N00B.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Brehvolution on March 04, 2011, 09:28:32 PM
 :lol OK

Have a little respect for Mr. 'Nuff plz.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Damian79 on March 04, 2011, 09:47:15 PM
Obvious joke with newbie spelled with 2 zeros is not obvious?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Brehvolution on March 04, 2011, 10:42:01 PM
Context by tone is hard to judge on the nets.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Damian79 on March 04, 2011, 10:45:51 PM
:( I really tried to make is obvious.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 04, 2011, 11:05:15 PM
preorder: canceled
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 04, 2011, 11:07:51 PM
preorder: canceled

You used that preorder money to get Neptunia, didn't you?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 05, 2011, 02:40:39 AM
Looks like tons of them are readily available in Japan

Oh wait they're region locked! Hurrrr
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Damian79 on March 05, 2011, 03:15:48 AM
So we know that for sure?  That they are region locked for everything?  I might have to get 2 3ds'es now.  FUCK YOU NINTENDO.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: magus on March 05, 2011, 06:33:23 AM
preorder: canceled

You used that preorder money to get Neptunia, didn't you?

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/choujigengameneptune/review.html

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Characters are disturbingly sexualized caricatures of young girls

how could anybody resist a premise like that?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 05, 2011, 09:36:01 AM
preorder: canceled

You used that preorder money to get Neptunia, didn't you?

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/choujigengameneptune/review.html

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Characters are disturbingly sexualized caricatures of young girls

how could anybody resist a premise like that?

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prepare to be disappointed....Neptunia's premise is...a role-playing game that revolves around hypersexualized young girls

Bad review, reviewer clearly doesn't understand the genre.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 06, 2011, 09:02:05 AM
Why did my ds have to break RIGHT WHEN 3DS is going to come out? It's like a ticking time bomb. At SA there's one billion ds lite's breaking down in the 3ds thread. :lol

LOOKS LIKE I'M BUYING A 3DS
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 06, 2011, 09:27:05 AM
Are you fucking insane? Why buy a ds if 3ds is an alternative? You can also play ds games on the 3ds without stretching on top of having a new machine that will be able to play new software which I'm going to buy anyways?

that is HORRIBLE advice!

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 06, 2011, 09:29:01 AM
Who gives a flying fuck about 3d?

Go drool at some crappy gaming engine.

In any case, it doesn't seem like there's much to the 3ds launch aside from Pilotwings (??? I've never played the snes one), Steel Diver and Monkey Ball?

I'd def. get Monkey Ball with my 3ds.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 06, 2011, 09:35:58 AM
Nope! What do you do in those games?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 06, 2011, 09:54:24 AM
Fly around? Is it arcadey or...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: maxy on March 06, 2011, 12:40:08 PM
Why did my ds have to break RIGHT WHEN 3DS is going to come out? It's like a ticking time bomb. At SA there's one billion ds lite's breaking down in the 3ds thread. :lol

LOOKS LIKE I'M BUYING A 3DS


(http://aussie-gamer.aussiegamercom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/51-300x239.jpg)
I see lots of posts like that lately,buuu my DS broke :'(,oh well 3DS here i come :hyper...hmm


Then again buy this doomed device if you want
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Reacting to Nintendo’s President Satoru Iwata's comments at the Game Developers Conference this week, equity research analyst Michael Pachter of Wedbush Securities said that in the long term "Nintendo is doomed." He was referring to Nintendo's fight in the handheld space with Apple's iOS devices and Android based smart phones.

"Long-term, Nintendo is doomed," said Michael Pachter. "He’s under full frontal assault by Apple."

Others in the industry also had comments for Nintendo:

"He may be right, but then the 200 to 300 million people who play games on Facebook are wrong," said Jeff Brown, the VP of corporate communication for Electronic Arts. "Social gaming as a whole aggregates into a business that is undeniably big money. When it’s that big you are forced to pay attention."

"I expected better from Nintendo," said Zynga's Brian Reynolds, who shifted from making hardcore strategy games to a new job at the social game maker. "They are missing the point of what we are doing, We are making games that everyone can play and socialize on while playing."

http://emoney.allthingsd.com/20110302/no-ones-buying-nintendos-cautionary-tale-about-mobile-and-social/?mod=ATD_rss (http://emoney.allthingsd.com/20110302/no-ones-buying-nintendos-cautionary-tale-about-mobile-and-social/?mod=ATD_rss)

Pachter is now nintard public enemy number one,they will hold a grudge until the end of time.
 :bow2

It will be interesting to see Wii successor,unique gimmick supply is running low.


Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 06, 2011, 12:55:13 PM
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"I expected better from Nintendo," said Zynga's Brian Reynolds, who shifted from making hardcore strategy games to a new job at the social game maker. "They are missing the point of what we are doing, We are making games that everyone can play and socialize on while playing."

Zynga  :yuck
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 06, 2011, 01:08:57 PM
I don't think Nintendo will ever be doomed due to the sales potential of their IPs, even if they were to go back to their N64 and GameCube days.  Nintendo is just incredibly complacent and is pissed that other people are making headway into Nintendo's blue ocean strategy.  Even if Nintendo were to doom itself Sega style, it would need about five financial PS3 or Saturn-like calamities before they can be in a position to consider themselves doomed.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 06, 2011, 01:15:11 PM
Social games [like on Facebook] are a cancer, I'll agree with Iwata on that.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Raban on March 06, 2011, 01:28:02 PM
::)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Diunx on March 06, 2011, 01:37:01 PM
Social games [like on Facebook] are a cancer, I'll agree with Iwata on that.

Why? they are free, some of then are actually fun and you can play them with your friends I see nothing wrong with facebook or web games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 06, 2011, 01:43:54 PM
Nintendo isn't doomed hardware-wise at all, they make systems with cheap components that generate profit per unit from day one, and people buy them over and over again only to throw them into a closet or a drawer somewhere months later, sometimes forgetting they even own them.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 06, 2011, 01:47:10 PM
... they repurchase them because they forgot they've owned them in the first place? GENIUS!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 06, 2011, 01:50:16 PM
that's not what i meant, i meant they keep buying their new systems and don't buy much software other than nintendo brands

i'd bet there are thousands of wiis out there right now that haven't been turned on in a year or more, and i'd also bet those same people will buy the next nintendo system based on whatever shiny gimmick it comes with only for it to be layered in dust months later
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 06, 2011, 01:51:12 PM
more specifically, they sell super-cheap plastic shit to dumb kids and fat almost-men, which is a replenishing and almost ceaseless revenue model
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: archie4208 on March 06, 2011, 01:51:36 PM
My main beef against social/F2P games is that they typically have a sleazy business model with an end cost that greatly exceeds a normal retail game.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 06, 2011, 01:53:59 PM
my brother and sister in law play those facebook games all the time and never spend a dime
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: maxy on March 06, 2011, 02:19:25 PM
Gaming is expanding,casual and core(much slower),isn't that what Nintendo wanted this gen?

Crying won't help now,adapt or prepare to see others taking money(people).Core gamers will be there,but only for core(content,content) games everything else will be met with...hmm,this shit is much cheaper on "insert platform here",not buying from you

Casuals,that audience must worry Nintendo,they will buy the hardware(when it gets cheaper),but software...tough times for expensive shovelware



Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 06, 2011, 02:28:02 PM
more specifically, they sell super-cheap plastic shit to dumb kids and fat almost-men, which is a replenishing and almost ceaseless revenue model

Sir, under oath of the court, how many pieces of Nintendo hardware have you purchased? 


in my defense, i am stupid and have the maturity of a 10 year old
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 06, 2011, 02:35:13 PM
Gaming is expanding,casual and core(much slower),isn't that what Nintendo wanted this gen?

Crying won't help now,adapt or prepare to see others taking money(people).Core gamers will be there,but only for core(content,content) games everything else will be met with...hmm,this shit is much cheaper on "insert platform here",not buying from you

Casuals,that audience must worry Nintendo,they will buy the hardware(when it gets cheaper),but software...tough times for expensive shovelware





it's not about crying. it's about standards.

now that people can get 1-2 dollar games off of the app store, why buy a full priced game? why even bother? when people start asking that, another gaming crash happens.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 06, 2011, 02:50:02 PM
That's the scenario Iwata has in mind, I think. The problem is rising costs for big budget games with thinning profit margins, coupled with the rise in popularity of cheap, easy to consume mobile and social games. I'm not quite as pessimistic as that, but I think it's pretty obvious that a lot of companies are going to start shifting resources towards those two markets and it could very well be to the detriment of people that want big expensive games with ZOMG awesome graphics.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: maxy on March 06, 2011, 03:08:56 PM
Gaming is expanding,casual and core(much slower),isn't that what Nintendo wanted this gen?

Crying won't help now,adapt or prepare to see others taking money(people).Core gamers will be there,but only for core(content,content) games everything else will be met with...hmm,this shit is much cheaper on "insert platform here",not buying from you

Casuals,that audience must worry Nintendo,they will buy the hardware(when it gets cheaper),but software...tough times for expensive shovelware





it's not about crying. it's about standards.

now that people can get 1-2 dollar games off of the app store, why buy a full priced game? why even bother? when people start asking that, another gaming crash happens.


Because good full games will have tons of content and buttons...important stuff for gamers
$1 apps will be made by few people and have production value of rotten rat...just like various shovelware that Nintendo(and others)  try to sell at full price

$1 apps will never match something like COD,Zelda,Mario,etc.If they do then big players should go down.I'm talking generally,btw

You can't enforce standards in entertainment,people do what they like.

COD LTD(US) is almost 12 million,I don't see those people ditching adrenaline pumping games and going exclusively to some few $$$ app.




Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 06, 2011, 03:13:32 PM
I'm not talking about enforcing standards, I'm talking about the INDUSTRY'S standards.

Also you talk about big budget blockbusters and 2 dollar games on the app store as if a middle ground doesn't exist.

I mean, I love the app store as much as anyone but it is a pressing concern.

Also, nintendo AND sony are both IDIOTS for not emphasizing user customization and user generated content, especially on a store. that is how the app store boomed in popularity: user content. If they allowed customers the same tools they could fight apple on their own terms and with superior games that you can't do on the idevices.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: maxy on March 06, 2011, 03:28:32 PM
Middle ground problem is that consoles are quite old,tons of games on the market,huge competition,tough to reach the surface.Apps also have that problem,but they have one big advantage...little risk

I see this as motion controls vs core fight...adapt and move on

Nothing is stopping Sony and Nintendo to have something like Apple+huge core games.Well nothing except selling expensive "apps like games"
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 06, 2011, 03:33:24 PM
i tend to prefer games that are middle ground. a lot of the games that are described as such are usually on the portables these days, which is why i prefer handhelds. =/
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 06, 2011, 07:48:20 PM
iwata is weeping and wailing because nintendo just lost the blue ocean. the red ocean still wants the $60 mega games, and now nintendo has to slink back to it and try to compete -- or start selling wario ware shit for 2 smacks a pop
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Purple Filth on March 06, 2011, 07:54:19 PM
My main beef against social/F2P games is that they typically have a sleazy business model with an end cost that greatly exceeds a normal retail game.


That's if you decide to pay it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: archie4208 on March 06, 2011, 08:14:18 PM
The only F2P game I've played for an extensive amount of time is League of Legends whose competitive nature almost requires spending money.  You either have to spend real money or play for ~20 to 50 hours to unlock one character and Riot pumps out characters biweekly.  There is also a persistent rune system where you have to spend in game points to buy permanent stat increases.  The entire thing feels like a big grind and I would be happier if I could spend $60 to unlock all the characters and runes instead of having to play with characters I don't like for dozens of games before I get the one I want.  There are also DLC skins that require real money to access, although that doesn't bother me.

I bought the starter pack a few weeks ago for $20 and got about 1/4 of the characters so I am obviously willing to spend money on the game, I just hate the concept of paying $10 for one character or grinding for a long time.

For games where you pimp your farm, then the business model doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 06, 2011, 09:10:29 PM
I hope things don't go completely down the shitter, but the media create numbers didn't look too encouraging for the launch.  I may lack perspective in that regard, but software didn't seem to be selling buttloads.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 06, 2011, 09:12:40 PM
The 3DS needs a definitive title, like Nintendogs with the DS. Right now, it's mainly DS sequels and that's not going to cut it, I think.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 06, 2011, 09:24:24 PM
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I may lack perspective in that regard, but software didn't seem to be selling buttloads.

wasn't the top selling game at around 140k on a machine that had 8 launch titles and shifted 400k unit?

Seems fine to me - not many games are shifting great numbers in Japan these days.

Layton, the top 3DS games, sold about 120K, total 3DS hardware sales were around 375K.

By the way, the six 3DS games in the top 20 added up to around 340K.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: pilonv1 on March 06, 2011, 09:46:27 PM
I'll be all :smug when the social network gaming bubble bursts.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: originalz on March 06, 2011, 10:44:20 PM
Yeah, when I walked by Bic in Ikebukuro they were advertising that they had 3DS in stock.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Trent Dole on March 07, 2011, 02:23:03 AM
iwata is weeping and wailing because nintendo just lost the blue ocean. the red ocean still wants the $60 mega games, and now nintendo has to slink back to it and try to compete -- or start selling wario ware shit for 2 smacks a pop
A-fucking-men to that. :bow
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Damian79 on March 09, 2011, 06:34:02 PM
http://www.nintendoeverything.com/61975/

Nyko doubles the battery life for another $20.  Awesome.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Nintendosbooger on March 12, 2011, 05:05:22 PM
I love how N-haters conveniently forget select portions of gaming history in order to maintain their N-hating fan boy delusions.

The DS, the 3DS's predecessor, didn't exactly light the charts initially, despite being the successor to the legendary GBA, until the first wave of Nintendo juggernauts, most notably Nintendo Dogs, were released.

You guys can wish and pray that Nintendo doesn't release another ground-breaking, record setting game like Brain Age or Nintendo Dogs for the 3DS, but it'll all be in vain, because it's going to happen, and in 5-6 years, we'll be right back here - snickering at the unspectacular showing and the imminent demise of 3DS's successor.

And even if the 3DS proves to be dull in comparison to the DS - Nintendo made so much money this cycle that they can afford to suffer three dismal generations of Gamecube-like mediocrity, and still be well off.

Face it, ladies, Nintendo has this gaming thing on lock.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: magus on March 12, 2011, 05:07:10 PM
who let booger out of the cage? uh? uh?  ???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: magus on March 12, 2011, 06:51:45 PM
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"Hey, the machine might be a total let down, but at least my FAVOURITEST COMPANY IN THE WHOLE WORLD will make bank! Hurray!"

ahahahahah yea,people acts like the videogame market is a football tournament :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 12, 2011, 07:52:31 PM
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ahahahahah yea,people acts like the videogame market is a football tournament

yup, i don't care which company entertains me - the point is that they do ENTERTAIN. I don't particularly give a shit how much $ they make as long as it's enough for them to continue operations.

Not surprising coming from an Xbot. Nintendo fans want their company to make as much $ is needed to innovate and evolve. That amount is more than it would take to simply "get by" which is what other, lesser companies do
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Damian79 on March 12, 2011, 08:28:39 PM
But Nintendo dont innovate or evolve when hey have money.  They are at their best when they NEED money.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Nintendosbooger on March 12, 2011, 09:26:55 PM
But Nintendo dont innovate or evolve when hey have money.  They are at their best when they NEED money.

No company is at their "best" when they've reached their financial comfort zone, but if I had to choose from among the 3 companies as far as pumping out lazy shit as a result of being financially overbloated, I'll go with Nintendo. They still have FUN in their DNA and we're still seeing some nice quirky stuff coming from them this generation despite their position in the gaming pecking order. What do we get from a winning Sony? "GET A SECOND JOB TO BUY AND SUPPORT OUR NEXT CONSOLE!" Microsoft? "Pay $49.99 for this gimped title, and we'll make sure the rest of it is available as DLC for $29.99. :D"
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: cool breeze on March 12, 2011, 10:05:34 PM
Sony is probably preferable than Nintendo for my interests.  They did put out the PSP while the PS2 was still stylin on the competition, and Nintendo barely surpasses that beastly thing six years later.  And even with the PS3 they were trying (emphasis) to make an absolute beastly console.  And now, despite being at the shit end of major hardware makers, they're still putting out a beastly handheld.  Their biggest problem is how terribly they manage it all, and whether or not that changes with the PSP2, at least I'm happy that they'll be going out with a bang.

Nintendo is just kinda shit.  I say this as someone who considers the Zelda series his favorite game series, and the two Mario Galaxy games as some of the best games out there.  They make good games when they want to.  As a hardware company, they're really disappointing.  Old ass tech with a gimped gimmick to give it that sheen just isn't enticing.  Not to mention their failure to catch up to online systems a decade old, and even simple things like an account.  No doubt the exclusive software will be great, but in a situation where the exact same software came out on all systems, I wouldn't touch any hardware made by Nintendo.

So yeah, can't wait to get my 3DS in ~2 weeks  :hyper
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 12, 2011, 10:12:22 PM
Oh not this shit again.  Console launches before end of fiscal year, software rushed for launch, often mediocre

See psp(except ridge racer), ds, xbox 360 (except... geometry wars?), wii (except warioware), gamecube, ps2, xbox, ps3 etc.  Arguably the only consoles to have jaw dropping groundbreaking stuff out of the gate was Mario 64 and Soul Calibur Dreamcast.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 12, 2011, 10:12:53 PM
Uh... psp had one of the best launches ever, personally.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 12, 2011, 10:13:56 PM
Eh, I got one the summer after it launched and it was slim pickings.  Lots of shitty capcom ports/remakes. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 12, 2011, 10:14:59 PM
lumines, metal gear acid, ridge racer, wipeout pure;etc

???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 12, 2011, 10:16:57 PM
Ewwwww.... I did forgot about lumines.  Can't remember if I liked it or not.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 12, 2011, 10:33:57 PM
Oh yay, Nintendosbooger is back!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2011, 03:12:36 AM
decided to go with samurai warriors and monkey ball for my launch titles. don't know wtf this pilotwings shit is, never played.

on launch day i will pick up 3ds, pokemon black, samurai warriors and monkey ball.

and I will be able to play my glorious ds games again.

where's your cock iwata-sama? so i can suck it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2011, 03:20:20 AM
i forgot about steel diver. i wanna support nintendo making a new ip. I really do. But hauling ninja/samurai ass and collecting bananas takes precedent over a sub sim. The only thing this launch is missing for me, personally, is a great racing game and a great puzzle game. I dunno how ridge racer 3ds is, but it looks really fucking disappointing, especially in the graphics area, an area I always expect RR games to excel at.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2011, 03:25:37 AM
I"m really really excited to be getting a new handheld system in a few weeks.

Next gen is here!

And by the end of the year the real beast will be unleashed. :drool

This game looks SO FUN!

[youtube=560,345]ZePgSDmZIdU[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2011, 03:31:14 AM
Can you more into Ridge Racer? I'm expecting it to be regurgitated tracks that they've been doing since Ridge Racers but...anything new?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: iconoclast on March 13, 2011, 06:50:22 AM
Ewwwww.... I did forgot about lumines.  Can't remember if I liked it or not.

LUMINES :bow

Single-handedly justified my day one PSP purchase. Best puzzle game since Tetris.
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHssppekuSo[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 13, 2011, 06:59:00 AM
Lumines, Wipeout, and RR were all amazing AAA must have launch titles, so I agree with the notion that the PSP had one of the best (albeit thin on variety) lineups. Too bad the 2-year drought that followed was unbearable.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 13, 2011, 07:24:07 AM
There were games, but most of them were sub-LOADINGLOADINGLOADING-par games or shoddy ports. I wish CFW was there day 1 to enhance the experience from the get go. Fall 2006, iirc, was the time when technically competent games and quality ports started trickling in.

Edit: Ok, I did a scan too and most of 2006's releases that I ended up buying were great. I guess 2005's drought felt like a life-time.

Edit: ugh, even 2005 had quality games. Why the hell am I letting the ninty-revisionists cloud my memory? I personally blame Emceegramr and his stupid friends.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 13, 2011, 07:27:35 AM
I just did check the edit :-[

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There were games, but most of them were sub-LOADINGLOADINGLOADING-par games or shoddy ports.

I hate myself for list moding.... you know - i won't - go look at what came in the first 2 years. It's great.



You don't have to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_Portable_games (sort by release date)

I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: magus on March 13, 2011, 08:32:23 AM
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All three companies suck in different ways, but in equal measures.

this,and fanboy are all equaly distinguished mentally-challenged but none of them are as noisy as nintendo one
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Diunx on March 13, 2011, 10:59:06 AM
i have 10 3Ds games already. It'll be 11 when Assfulled is 1980 yen and i'll be adding a few games this week (the sub game for sure)

Damn dude you went from not buying it day one to getting one within hours of its release and owning 10 games already :lol I eagerly anticipate Prole doing the exact same thing after mentioning multiple times that he canceled his pre order.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: bork on March 13, 2011, 11:49:57 AM
I'm still getting a 3DS, but when I look at what it is that's of interest, it's almost all ports:

-SSF4: Port of the console versions, disappointingly NOT of Arcade Edition.
-Ridge Racer: Not a port, but appears to be another RR rehash re-using the some of the same tracks that RR1+2 PSP, RR6, and RR7 share.
-Samurai Warriors Chronicles: This is a portable version of SW3, albeit with some new features.
-Dead Or Alive Dimensions: Rehash of DOA4 with some extra stuff/old backgrounds and costumes re-added.
-Resident Evil The Mercenaries: Port of the RE5 Mercenaries mode with new characters.
-The other Resident Evil: Look!  An ORIGINAL GAME! 
-Zelda Oot: Another port.
-BlazBlue Continuum Shift II: Yup, it's a port...and the PSP version looks better!

If the fighting games didn't have online play, I wouldn't even bother with the 3DS at launch.

I"m really really excited to be getting a new handheld system in a few weeks.

Next gen is here!

And by the end of the year the real beast will be unleashed. :drool

This game looks SO FUN!

[youtube=560,345]ZePgSDmZIdU[/youtube]


I didn't know this version let you control a four-man squad and switch during battle, Warriors-Orochi style.  And I see characters from Samurai Warriors 3Z/Xtreme Legends in there.  That's pretty cool, however the same week this comes out, Koei is also putting out Dynasty Warriors 7 on consoles, which looks to kick the shit out of all of their other titles.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 13, 2011, 01:28:20 PM
But Nintendo dont innovate or evolve when hey have money.  They are at their best when they NEED money.

No company is at their "best" when they've reached their financial comfort zone, but if I had to choose from among the 3 companies as far as pumping out lazy shit as a result of being financially overbloated, I'll go with Nintendo. They still have FUN in their DNA and we're still seeing some nice quirky stuff coming from them this generation despite their position in the gaming pecking order. What do we get from a winning Sony? "GET A SECOND JOB TO BUY AND SUPPORT OUR NEXT CONSOLE!" Microsoft? "Pay $49.99 for this gimped title, and we'll make sure the rest of it is available as DLC for $29.99. :D"

Uh, Sony has given me more games, in good times and bad, than Nintendo.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2011, 03:19:53 PM
There were games, but most of them were sub-LOADINGLOADINGLOADING-par games or shoddy ports. I wish CFW was there day 1 to enhance the experience from the get go. Fall 2006, iirc, was the time when technically competent games and quality ports started trickling in.

Edit: Ok, I did a scan too and most of 2006's releases that I ended up buying were great. I guess 2005's drought felt like a life-time.

Edit: ugh, even 2005 had quality games. Why the hell am I letting the ninty-revisionists cloud my memory? I personally blame Emceegramr and his stupid friends.

the anti-psp "it only has ports/remakes" FUD is stupid. it's like every pro-nintendo gamer REFUSES to acknowledge or even RESEARCH the vast variety that fucking system has.

meanwhile, everyone else has to be subjected to "best nintendo system since the snes! ^_______^" (although it is).

And this is coming from someone who has played his psp probably about as much as his ds. Seriously.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 13, 2011, 05:15:38 PM
I'm not really friends with other nintards.  Can't really stand them cus they pontificate on the zelda timeline and bitch about Nintendo not localising crap like disaster: day of crisis.  As for the psp, as a short lived owner the lineup never clicked with me.   Lumines was okay, but when you stripped away the audiovisual stuff it was still a derivative tetris thing.  I think my favorite psp game was Hot Shots Golf.  The load times weren't bad from what I remember, and I had a fair share of fun with it. The one game I kept going back to until I finally sold the psp when loco roco turned out to be a big blob of non fun.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Damian79 on March 13, 2011, 06:06:01 PM
Uh, Sony has given me more games, in good times and bad, than Nintendo.

Neither Sony or Nintendo has given me jack shit.  But Atlus gave me SMT: Devil Survivor, Etrian ODyessy 1-3, SMT: Strange Journey and Radiant Historia all on the DS.

:bow Atlus :bow

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: tiesto on March 14, 2011, 09:16:09 AM
What do we get from a winning Sony? "GET A SECOND JOB TO BUY AND SUPPORT OUR NEXT CONSOLE!" Microsoft? "Pay $49.99 for this gimped title, and we'll make sure the rest of it is available as DLC for $29.99. :D"

When Sony won with the PS1, we got the PS2, by far the best system of last gen.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: cool breeze on March 14, 2011, 10:03:06 AM
Gamecube was one of the most powerful consoles? out of three! Xbox hardware buttfucked it, and while it was better than the PS2 in areas, the PS2 still had soooo much better content.  Nintendo ain't got nothing.  I wouldn't argue against the SNES, though.  So, yes, two decades ago Nintendo was pretty hep.

Then they release the DS, and the Wii, and you have blue ocean this and innovation that.  But the DS could have had a touch screen and been on par with the PSP.  The Wii could have had waggle and been on par with the 360/PS3.  The systems had great software and I'm not arguing that; only that Nintendo is super cheap that now relies on uninteresting and slightly broken gimmicks.

also, nostalgia for a company's former glory means nothing in 2011, even if Nintendo won't let you forget by porting older games.  I don't recall saying they were always like this, but if their last three big hardware releases were all fairly disappointing, it's a trend, not a fluke.  If Microsoft releases a waggle box on 360 hardware, or Sony did the same, I wouldn't be interested.  It should be understandable that I have nothing against a company because its purpose is to make money and I'm not a stockholder and that would be weird if I liked them just 'cause.  If their products and/or service aren't to my interests as a consumer, I'm just not going to care* no matter their history.

*lie
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2011, 11:41:25 AM
Haha Nintendo 64 has like 5 good games
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2011, 11:44:19 AM
Haha Nintendo 64 has like 5 good games

Super Mario 64
Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
Goldeneye
Blast Corps
Mischief Makers

That is SIX, sir.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 14, 2011, 11:48:30 AM
Six more than the PSX library then.  Playstation 1 was garbage.  Shitty graphics + slideshow framerate :yuck

3DFX ports of PSX games :rock
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: iconoclast on March 14, 2011, 11:53:59 AM
AKI were the godkings of the n64.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Diunx on March 14, 2011, 11:57:16 AM
Five good n64 games? You are being generous himu.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2011, 12:26:08 PM
Six more than the PSX library then.  Playstation 1 was garbage.  Shitty graphics + slideshow framerate :yuck

3DFX ports of PSX games :rock

Wrong, like usual.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: magus on March 14, 2011, 12:31:18 PM
Haha Nintendo 64 has like 5 good games

Super Mario 64
Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
Goldeneye
Blast Corps
Mischief Makers

That is SIX, sir.

ehy there is no mischief mak... oh wait there is
carry on sir
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 14, 2011, 12:54:01 PM
Six more than the PSX library then.  Playstation 1 was garbage.  Shitty graphics + slideshow framerate :yuck

3DFX ports of PSX games :rock

Wrong, like usual.

Yeah, I forgot to mention 1 min of loading after 5 mins of gameplay.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 14, 2011, 01:03:53 PM
xbots shitting on the ps1 whoduve thunk it  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Trent Dole on March 14, 2011, 01:12:55 PM
PSX owned
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 14, 2011, 01:36:06 PM
Add San Francisco Rush to that list fool
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: cool breeze on March 14, 2011, 01:41:23 PM
Yes the gamecube was a powerful console, and its games(the nintendo ones at least) looked better than most xbox games. And you're comparing the game library to the PS2? I don't think any game console can compete with the ps2's library. Also the N64 was not just the most powerful console of its generation, it was also the best.

you want it to be one way



but it's the other way
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 14, 2011, 01:54:43 PM
I have worked on both, and the Xbox pooped on Gamecube

Truth
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2011, 02:03:12 PM
Yes the gamecube was a powerful console, and its games(the nintendo ones at least) looked better than most xbox games. And you're comparing the game library to the PS2? I don't think any game console can compete with the ps2's library. Also the N64 was not just the most powerful console of its generation, it was also the best.

you want it to be one way



but it's the other way

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Media/Pix/pictures/2008/08/19/MarloWire460.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2011, 02:31:13 PM
There's a whole heck of a lot of difference between the Gamecube vs. Xbox and the Wii vs. Xbox360. I think most people would agree on that.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Trent Dole on March 14, 2011, 02:36:09 PM
There's a whole heck of a lot of difference between the Gamecube vs. Xbox and the Wii vs. Xbox360. I think most people would agree on that.
Uh, the Wii loses to the first Xbox, nevermind the 360.  :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2011, 02:49:47 PM
There's a whole heck of a lot of difference between the Gamecube vs. Xbox and the Wii vs. Xbox360. I think most people would agree on that.
Uh, the Wii loses to the first Xbox, nevermind the 360.  :lol

The point is that the Gamecube was close in power [or at least close in actual results] to the original Xbox, whereas the Xbox360 is light years ahead of the Wii.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2011, 02:54:28 PM
Nintendo having an technological edge is a myth.

nes was weak as shit. gameboy weak as shit, gameboy color weak as shit, gameboy advance weak as shit, ds weak as shit, nintendo 64 used carts instead of cd's when it was obvious where the future was going;etc

I'd say gamecube is the one and only time they truly embraced a technological bent, that and maybe the nintendo 64, but that's a maybe.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 14, 2011, 03:19:06 PM
All I can say is N64 was really pushing the technology barrier with its 4K of texture cache
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 14, 2011, 03:23:57 PM
SNES was well ahead of the Genesis as well, though it did come out later.

GameCube was in a good place but it was not as powerful as XBox and the only games on it that looked as good as the top XBox games were Rogue Squadron and Star Fox Adventures.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2011, 03:28:17 PM
GameCube was in a good place but it was not as powerful as XBox and the only games on it that looked as good as the top XBox games were Rogue Squadron and Star Fox Adventures.

Metroid Prime 1 and 2 were up there as well.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Vizzys on March 14, 2011, 03:29:56 PM
are we talking bout old console itt

I remember having to flip my ps1 upsidedown to read discs
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: demi on March 14, 2011, 03:35:49 PM
N64 talk? Will take a picture of my 70+ games when I get home. N64 :bow
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 14, 2011, 03:48:21 PM
Until the DS, Nintendo was always about power.  I remember hearing about SGI's blazing hot technology in the N64 ad nauseum.  How it looked head over shoulders better over the PlayStation.  At least a handful of N64 games could be played today but unless it is in 2D or on an emulator with shitloads of filters and aliasing applied to it, the PlayStation is virtually unplayable.  In fact, it was barely playable then.

The "underpowered hardware w/ gimmick" approach is pretty shameful but it is making them profit hand over fist.  However since I don't own Nintendo stock or receive a paycheck from Nintendo, I don't give a rat's ass how much profit Nintendo can bring in from a 3DS.  I'm just glad that Sony is continuing the power over gimmickry approach with the NGP, in spite of many reasons not to go that route.  I will probably end up with both machines but I'm not going to pretend that the 3DS tech isn't a piece of shit because O WOW THREE DEE! or that I'm happy Nintendo can make $50 per 3DS.  The idea that Nintards are spinning Nintendo's entire hardware history as gimmicks over power is pretty short sighted, not that Nintards aren't capable of reinventing truths.  At least Nintards dropped the "tight lipped" phrase whenever their third party software lineup of the latest Nintendo console appeared to be a total desert. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: magus on March 14, 2011, 04:26:25 PM
you know your list is desperate when you have to put wrestling game and acclaim fps on it :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: iconoclast on March 14, 2011, 04:28:02 PM
N64 still has the best Evangelion game

clearly it's a good console. nintendo's last good console, actually.

you know your list is desperate when you have to put wrestling game and acclaim fps on it :(


No Mercy is one of the best games ever made. And Fire Pro and King of Colosseum destroy No Mercy.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 14, 2011, 04:30:15 PM
I had a PSX for RPGs + RE/Silent Hill and a N64 for everything else. Life was good. :rock
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 14, 2011, 04:34:49 PM
Six more than the PSX library then.  Playstation 1 was garbage.  Shitty graphics + slideshow framerate :yuck

3DFX ports of PSX games :rock

Same as the N64 then ???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2011, 04:43:51 PM
psx had better puzzle games, better rhythm games, better inventive and off the wall/what the fuck is this? games, better rpgs, better action games, more 2d games, better 2d shooters and rail shooters to boot.

i sure as hell would like to see anything as inventive as parappa/lammy or vib ribbon or intelligent qube or even devil dice on the n64. this is without mentioning the platformers: klonoa, tomba, mega man x4, crash bandicoot 2, spyro;etc or racing games.

psx knocks the shit out of n64. Aside from 3d platformers and arguably action adventure (and only because of Zelda) I don't see n64 outclassing psx on any genre.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 14, 2011, 04:55:44 PM
Devil Dice, Vib Ribbon, Intelligent Qube, wow dude, sounds all terribly exciting. Too bad I was playing too much Mario Kart 64 and Goldeneye to care.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: magus on March 14, 2011, 04:59:09 PM
so it was like being a wii owner and having to play galaxy over and over? :spin
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2011, 05:06:34 PM
Nintendo 64 is an odd system to me. It clearly has some of the best games ever created and is highly influential. But when it comes down to it, its lineup is incredibly sparse. It has quality, that's not debatable, but it lacks the quantity. Meanwhile, psx had both.

I can't understand calling it Nintendo's last good console because it's not that great of a system, though it certainly had great games.

I honestly think Gamecube is better than N64.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: magus on March 14, 2011, 05:12:00 PM
okay okay i know how to end this argument

can we all agree that sega console sucked the most?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 14, 2011, 05:13:30 PM
psx had better sports games, and tony hawk was the best on PSx so I dont know what these xbots are talking about
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 14, 2011, 05:18:05 PM
Haha Nintendo 64 has like 5 good games

The Legend Of Zelda Ocarina Of Time
The Legend Of Zelda Majoras Mask
Super Mario 64
WCW/NWO World Tour
WCW/NWO Revenge
WWF Wrestlemania 2000
WWF No Mercy
Banjo & Kazooie
Banjo Tooie
Donkey Kong 64
Super Smash Bros.
Turok
Turok 2
Turok 3
007 Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Star Fox 64
Blast Corps
Mischief Makers
Jet Force Gemini
Bomberman 64
1080 Snowboarding
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Diddy Kong Racing
Super Mario Kart 64
F-Zero X
Killer Instinct Gold
Mario Tennis
Paper Mario
Pokemon Puzzle League
Pokemon Snap
Pokemon Stadium
Pokemon Stadium 2
Pilotwings
Rayman 2
Star Wars The Shadow Of The Empire
Wave Race 64
Yoshi's Story(Yeah I said it)

And all were either long but well paced and/or very replayable. So fuck the PS1

This is the list that puts the PSX to shame?

Gotta be reverse trolling :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2011, 05:19:52 PM
N64 was awesome. Four-player multiplayer games with everyone sitting in a room together yelling and mashing buttons [Mario Party]? Yes, please.

List of good N64 games:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Ocarina of Time
Perfect Dark
Mischief Makers
F-Zero X
Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber
Goldeneye
Sin and Punishment
Mystical Ninja
Goemon's Great Adventure
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
Killer Instinct Gold
Star Fox 64
Majora's Mask
Blast Corps
Body Harvest [well, sort of good; had really bad fog and ran like poo]
Paper Mario
Super Mario 64
Space Station Silicon Valley
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
Jet Force Gemini
Banjo Kazooie/Tooie
Top Gear Overdrive
Wave Race 64
Excitebike
Star Wars: Episode 1 Racer
Hybrid Heaven
Mario Kart 64
Diddy Kong Racing
Mario Party series
Beetle Adventure Racing
Cruisin' World
Super Smash Bros.
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Pokemon Snap [don't knock it]
[close]

:rock N64 :rock
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: iconoclast on March 14, 2011, 05:22:10 PM
okay okay i know how to end this argument

can we all agree that sega console sucked the most?


Dreamcast > GC+N64+Wii
Saturn > GC+N64+Wii
Genesis > SNES
Yu Suzuki > Miyamoto
Sega > *
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 14, 2011, 05:27:36 PM
okay okay i know how to end this argument

can we all agree that sega console sucked the most?


The Saturn and Dreamcast are Sega's best consoles.  Especially the import Saturn scene.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: magus on March 14, 2011, 05:28:25 PM
gee iconoclast you aren't making this easy on me you know! >:(

N64 was awesome. Four-player multiplayer games with everyone sitting in a room together yelling and mashing buttons [Mario Party]? Yes, please.

List of good N64 games:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Ocarina of Time
Perfect Dark
Mischief Makers
F-Zero X
Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber
Goldeneye
Sin and Punishment
Mystical Ninja
Goemon's Great Adventure
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
Killer Instinct Gold
Star Fox 64
Majora's Mask
Blast Corps
Body Harvest [well, sort of good; had really bad fog and ran like poo]
Paper Mario
Super Mario 64
Space Station Silicon Valley
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
Jet Force Gemini
Banjo Kazooie/Tooie
Top Gear Overdrive
Wave Race 64
Excitebike
Star Wars: Episode 1 Racer
Hybrid Heaven
Mario Kart 64
Diddy Kong Racing
Mario Party series
Beetle Adventure Racing
Cruisin' World
Super Smash Bros.
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Pokemon Snap [don't knock it]
[close]

:rock N64 :rock

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/tumblr_ldp2ohpgy81qej8gyo1_500.jpg?t=1300137964)

still was one of the most awesome game ever,when the wii hit i always tought "MAN MARIO PARTY ONLINE IS GOING TO BE SO COOL!"

good job nintendo! :-[
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2011, 05:29:47 PM
Mario Party would tear your hand up, no question about that. Still crazy fun though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: iconoclast on March 14, 2011, 05:38:28 PM
 :lol One of my friends got a huge blister from that Mario Party analog spinning. He may have won the game, but he still lost.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Oblivion on March 14, 2011, 05:47:22 PM
:bow Great Rumbler :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2011, 05:52:08 PM
:lol One of my friends got a huge blister from that Mario Party analog spinning. He may have won the game, but he still lost.

And so it goes.  :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 14, 2011, 05:54:57 PM
I tried mario party once at a friends place.  Thought it was hella lame and the party genre was stupid.  I guess I was ahead of the curve.
...
Except for Warioware smooth moves, that shit IS the shit.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 14, 2011, 05:58:49 PM
Mario Party 1 was the most abusive game ever. The key to winning was to inflict more pain upon yourself that the other players could, but then you'd still lose because of random dice rolls.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2011, 06:27:15 PM
Sega Genesis fucking owned.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 14, 2011, 06:53:43 PM
I had a PSX for RPGs + RE/Silent Hill and a N64 for everything else. Life was good. :rock

High-res PC ports + Bleem for PSX and UltraHLE for everything else.  Life was better.  :elephant

psx had better puzzle games, better rhythm games, better inventive and off the wall/what the fuck is this? games, better rpgs, better action games, more 2d games, better 2d shooters and rail shooters to boot.

i sure as hell would like to see anything as inventive as parappa/lammy or vib ribbon or intelligent qube or even devil dice on the n64. this is without mentioning the platformers: klonoa, tomba, mega man x4, crash bandicoot 2, spyro;etc or racing games.

psx knocks the shit out of n64. Aside from 3d platformers and arguably action adventure (and only because of Zelda) I don't see n64 outclassing psx on any genre.

I wonder why there aren't anymore sequels or remakes of all those games.   :P
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2011, 06:57:31 PM
Because they're niche and people suck.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: bork on March 14, 2011, 06:58:39 PM
Six more than the PSX library then.  Playstation 1 was garbage.  Shitty graphics + slideshow framerate :yuck

3DFX ports of PSX games :rock

ahahahahahah

This is a joke post, right?  The PSOne shat all over the N64.  That was Nintendo's worst console (unless you want to count the Virtual Boy as a console) to date.

PC emulation was fun to mess with, but back then most games weren't stable enough to play all the way through.  It was a fun gimmick.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Damian79 on March 14, 2011, 07:09:38 PM
Sales wise yeah but games wise the wii sucks more if you are an english speaker.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 14, 2011, 07:13:49 PM
Fluidity and Bit Trip Flux came out on the wiiware service recently. You could buy those Damian, they are good , I promise.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Damian79 on March 14, 2011, 07:18:31 PM
I only play rpg's now.  :/  Those games just dont interest me.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2011, 07:25:47 PM
Sega Genesis fucking owned.

Genesis rocked.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 14, 2011, 07:25:57 PM
I only play rpg's now.  :/  Those games just dont interest me.
Oh, that's .... uh.... huh.  Can't relate.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: bork on March 14, 2011, 07:38:02 PM
Sega Genesis fucking owned.

Genesis rocked.

Abso-fucking-lutely.  I had a SNES at the time, and didn't get a Genesis of my own until the Nomad hit in '96.  I ended up liking the Genesis a lot more than the SNES.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2011, 07:46:24 PM
I had a Genesis around 1992 and didn't get an SNES until years and year later. Both rock though [SNES RPGs ZOOOOMG], but I'll always have a soft spot for the Genny.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2011, 07:48:19 PM
I got my genesis christmas 1992. first system I ever owned.

i prefer it to snes, but both systems compliment each other so beautifully. snes for the story-based games, genesis for the platformers and action games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 14, 2011, 07:49:38 PM
I had a PSX for RPGs + RE/Silent Hill and a N64 for everything else. Life was good. :rock

High-res PC ports + Bleem for PSX and UltraHLE for everything else.  Life was better.  :elephant

Something something comfy couch.  :patel
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2011, 07:53:43 PM
Mine:

1. Playstation
2. Playstation 2
3. Genesis
4. psp
5. dreamcast
6. snes
7. ds
8. gameboy advance
9. xbox
10. saturn
11. gameboy
12. nes
13. gamecube
14. nintendo 64
15. playstation 3
16. xbox 360
17. wii
18. game gear
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2011, 07:54:29 PM
Mine:

1. Playstation
2. Playstation 2
3. Genesis
4. psp
5. dreamcast
6. snes
7. ds
8. gameboy advance
9. xbox
10. saturn
11. gameboy
12. nes
13. gamecube
14. nintendo 64
15. playstation 3
16. xbox 360
17. game gear

lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 14, 2011, 07:55:09 PM
I had a PSX for RPGs + RE/Silent Hill and a N64 for everything else. Life was good. :rock

High-res PC ports + Bleem for PSX and UltraHLE for everything else.  Life was better.  :elephant

Something something comfy couch.  :patel

Having a tight ass that can fit in an office chair.  :patel
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2011, 07:55:32 PM
i enjoyed my original xbox way more than i did my 360. *shrug*
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 14, 2011, 07:59:01 PM
I had a PSX for RPGs + RE/Silent Hill and a N64 for everything else. Life was good. :rock

High-res PC ports + Bleem for PSX and UltraHLE for everything else.  Life was better.  :elephant

Something something comfy couch.  :patel

Having a tight ass that can fit in an office chair.  :patel

pics?  :patel
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 14, 2011, 08:09:04 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: originalz on March 14, 2011, 08:50:13 PM
Haha, look at all you casual gamers talking about your Sega and Nintendo systems, thinking you were so hardcore.

True gamers were only about PC ENGINE, or TURBOGRAFX-16 to the suckers who got stuck with Keith Courage.  Tons of innovative games, hitting that sweet spot between the 8 and 16-bit era.  Getting a DUO (or CD attachment if you like spending money replacing them) also gave you a huge CD library, right before the FMV "game" boom hit the west so you got actual good CD games with kickass music.  Sure, the majority of quality software never left Japan, but that's not one to stop REAL GAMERS, right?  It's a goddamn shame that NEC completely botched the PCFX and turned it into an anime-box full of FMV crap.

The Genesis also had kind of an underground and indie feel to it before Sonic hit and things exploded.  I guess it's also connected to the state of PC gaming back then, I remember when Phantasy Star 2 came out people were marveling at how it was the kind of game only available on high-end computers at the time.  In a way, the PSP is kind of like the PC Engine, lots of good games released but most westerners will never see them.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 14, 2011, 09:15:34 PM
The turbographx stuff on the virtual console stuff is pretty great.  I like devil's crush and detana twinbee myself.  Never knew the platform existed back in the day.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: tiesto on March 14, 2011, 09:25:05 PM
I had a Genesis around 1992 and didn't get an SNES until years and year later. Both rock though [SNES RPGs ZOOOOMG], but I'll always have a soft spot for the Genny.

Genesis RPGs >>> SNES RPGs

:bow :bow :bow Phantasy Star :bow2 :bow2 :bow2

SNES = my favorite console ever, but Genesis is my second or third (with PS1 also up there, obviously).

Turbo rocks, shame most of the best stuff didn't come our way :( The Far East of Eden games especially are fantastic. And of course Ys Book 1 and 2, game soundtrack of the forever. I'd imagine that game would have been simply mindblowing to play back in 1990.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 14, 2011, 09:42:12 PM
I think ys is on virtual console dude.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 14, 2011, 09:42:20 PM
:bow Devil's Crush :bow2
:bow KAZE :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2011, 09:49:51 PM
I had a Genesis around 1992 and didn't get an SNES until years and year later. Both rock though [SNES RPGs ZOOOOMG], but I'll always have a soft spot for the Genny.

Genesis RPGs >>> SNES RPGs

:bow :bow :bow Phantasy Star :bow2 :bow2 :bow2

The Genesis had some good RPGs, but they were very few and very far between. The SNES probably has twice as many RPGs as the PS1, counting the dozens that never crossed the Pacific. Of course, thanks to fan translations they're now playable by filthy Gaijin. There's still quite a few left untranslated though. It's crazy just how many there were.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Damian79 on March 14, 2011, 10:48:12 PM
Back to the 3ds, where exactly is the "sweetspot" for the 3ds in terms of how far you should be from it?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: cool breeze on March 14, 2011, 10:53:15 PM
Now back to Sega, remember Road Avenger?

[youtube=560,345]9CNf3luFiLw[/youtube]

Your wife was killed in a car accident; jump in your kick ass ride and knock baddies off the road.  The pinnacle of video game story telling.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 14, 2011, 11:07:47 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2011, 11:09:02 PM
That opening is awesome. Like a mix of Riding Bean and Road Warrior.  :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: tiesto on March 14, 2011, 11:17:19 PM
I think ys is on virtual console dude.

Yup, Ys Book 1 and 2 is on VC, I own the game on Turbo CD, SMS (Ys 1 only), PC and now PSP :P
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: bork on March 14, 2011, 11:26:02 PM
Haha, look at all you casual gamers talking about your Sega and Nintendo systems, thinking you were so hardcore.

True gamers were only about PC ENGINE, or TURBOGRAFX-16 to the suckers who got stuck with Keith Courage.  Tons of innovative games, hitting that sweet spot between the 8 and 16-bit era.  Getting a DUO (or CD attachment if you like spending money replacing them) also gave you a huge CD library, right before the FMV "game" boom hit the west so you got actual good CD games with kickass music.  Sure, the majority of quality software never left Japan, but that's not one to stop REAL GAMERS, right?  It's a goddamn shame that NEC completely botched the PCFX and turned it into an anime-box full of FMV crap.

The Genesis also had kind of an underground and indie feel to it before Sonic hit and things exploded.  I guess it's also connected to the state of PC gaming back then, I remember when Phantasy Star 2 came out people were marveling at how it was the kind of game only available on high-end computers at the time.  In a way, the PSP is kind of like the PC Engine, lots of good games released but most westerners will never see them.

Neo-Geo, BITCH!   8)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: demi on March 14, 2011, 11:59:47 PM
lol. Genesis "RPGs" :lol

The 5 it had... I guess.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Trent Dole on March 15, 2011, 01:06:55 AM
LIST WARS :gun
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 15, 2011, 01:08:31 AM
LIST WARS :gun

List wars are the best wars.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Diunx on March 15, 2011, 01:21:34 AM
lol. Genesis "RPGs" :lol

The 5 it had... I guess.

Lunar 1
Lunar 2
................ someone help me out here.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 15, 2011, 01:58:51 AM

Quote
................ someone help me out here.

Shadowruin
Shining Series
Beyond Oasis
Sword of Vermillion
Dragon Slayer Series
Phantasy Star series
YS3
Arcus Odyssey
etc etc...



Arcus Odyssey came out on the SNES as well. And you really don't want to get into a list war with SNES when it's about RPGs.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 15, 2011, 02:11:56 AM
(http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20080911/293.Ebert.Roger.091108.jpg)
"Games will never be art."

[youtube=560,345]9CNf3luFiLw[/youtube]

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vCJ5ph6Hw5w/S9CeLGIgmUI/AAAAAAAAD-0/XMZlyLoEQDs/s1600/roger-ebert-thumbs-up-2.jpg)

"I stand corrected."
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 15, 2011, 02:26:55 AM
(http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20080911/293.Ebert.Roger.091108.jpg)
"Games will never be art."

[youtube=560,345]9CNf3luFiLw[/youtube]

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vCJ5ph6Hw5w/S9CeLGIgmUI/AAAAAAAAD-0/XMZlyLoEQDs/s1600/roger-ebert-thumbs-up-2.jpg)

"I stand corrected."

:bow
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: iconoclast on March 15, 2011, 04:38:12 AM
I have a Turbografx, but I never played many games for it. Bomberman was godlike, Bonk was great, Splatterhouse was fun, I remember liking JJ & Jeff and Klax, Street Fighter 1 had the best voice samples ever... and that's all I remember. Detana Twinbee and Rondo of Blood are good too, but I never played TG16 versions.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: originalz on March 15, 2011, 08:11:46 AM
Final Lap Twin is an amazing and very unknown game for the Grafx, emulate that shit if you haven't played it yet!

Ah, I remember drooling at the coverage of TurboCD games in magazines, looking at games like Ys with their amazing cutscenes and the awesome shooters.  PC Engine is really the only retro system I've gotten into collecting for since the majority of the games were exclusive, unknown, and unreleased overseas.  It's just such a fun system to find shit for since you'll never know what you find and there are some real gems, both on HuCard and CD.  The only problem is that it's a bloody nuisance to manage the memory, and TenNoKoe is before the era of convenient swappable memory cards.  Memory Bank 128 would be perfect if all games supported it, instead of specific ones for some stupid reason.

Amazing how a system known for hardcore arcade-style games would eventually devolve into Tokimeki Memorial-style anime crap in the last few years, and ride those games into the PC-FX.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 15, 2011, 11:21:05 AM
Decided to pass on the launch titles aside from Samurai Warriors and I'm just going to catch up on old ds games like Layton.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 15, 2011, 03:13:01 PM
Maybe you guys noticed the gaf thread, Best Buy has set up 3ds demo stations in the USA.  I'm in Ohio (so applies to brandnew and demi, right?) and went down to check it out in person.  Game is Pilotwings, had some fun with it.  I had to wonder if something was wrong with my eyes because although I could perceive depth on the foreground mii vehicle the background environment still looked like it wasn't stereoscopic.

Some stuff is going to take some getting used to that I've never considered.

  Basically, when you're looking "in" to the 3ds and say, flying through hoops, much like in real life you focus on the distant object or the near object.  What happens in pilotwings is that you constantly have to readjust your focus between the hoops coming at you and your avatar in relation to those hoops.  I imagine it would be the same thing in every game that has you controlling an object (car, person, etc) thats traveling through a world.  Its kinda hard to explain but I can understand why people are having headaches.  I didn't get sick but my eyes did start to feel tired a few minutes after I walked away.

Pilotwings itself seems like a fun game, I like that there is free flight mode to just explore the island.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: tiesto on March 16, 2011, 09:38:13 AM
NEW ROCKET SLIME COMING FOR 3DS!!!

:bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 16, 2011, 10:30:46 AM
i didn't think rocket slime was as good as everyone else but it was fun
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 16, 2011, 11:05:37 AM
I freaking loved Rocket Slime. This is great news.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 18, 2011, 12:02:58 AM
   I went back to the demo today and was able to force my way into the home menu stuff.  Don't ask me how I don't even know what buttons I pushed to initiate it. 

   Whats good/bad is that there IS messaging for people on your friends list, problem is its a very short limit, probably 20 something characters including spaces.  Enough for "mario kart?" but not enough for "are you up for mario kart?" or hatemail.  The 3d camera is pretty cool but I could only take pictures of shelves.  The mii maker using the front camera isn't that impressive considering you have to tell it your hair, skin color, gender and other factors before it even tries and then afterwards you will probably still have to do corrections. 

All in all, I was probably tinkering with stuff for about half and hour and haven't felt any ill effects.  I imagine its going to effect each person differently though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 18, 2011, 06:13:42 AM
20 characters?! That's just a weird and arbitrary limitation. Don't tell me it's another pedo counter measure?

"My dick your mouth"

Nope.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 18, 2011, 07:50:18 AM
in official nintendo mag

Super Street Fighter IV 3D - 91%
Ridge Racer 3D - 87%
Nintendogs + Cats - 84%
Pilotwings Resort - 81%
Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars - 80%
Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 3D - 78%
Asphalt 3D - 70%
Super Monkey Ball 3D - 70%

no scores for samurai warriors or steel diver
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 18, 2011, 08:23:20 AM
I checked it out yesterday at BB.  No one was there so I got to play around with it undisturbed for 10 minutes.  On first glance, the system seems to be an upgraded version of the DS.  Nothing fancy but the same reliable design.  The new analog slider was the main thing that stood out.  It felt great.  Once I started playing Pilotwings, I just forgot that I was using a slider instead of a stick, unlike with a PSP.  Just for comparison, I checked out the nearby PSP-GO and it just felt :-X after playing the 3DS.

The 3D was much better than I expected.  I think people are really selling it short.  I've tried Nvidia 3D before and this was almost on par with it.  On pilotwings, the depth seems to go back about 5 inches on full effects.  Also impressive is the seamless switch from 2d to 3d.  The drawback is that viewing angle is narrower than 3D with glasses.  Vertical viewing angle seems to have a big impact on how well the 3D works.  Still, the 3D worked fairly well even when I wasn't at the optimal angle.  I did lose focus a couple of times but turning down the effect a little helped, as well as just getting adjusted to the 3D.  I didn't experience any sore eyes or headache but my gaming session was probably too short to tell.  In terms of graphics, Pilotwing's visuals look a bit too simple on 2D but once 3D is on, it's easily more appealing to look at than most PSP games.  The 3D does a lot to hide the lower fidelity of the visuals and gets you to focus on the 3D instead.  I honestly believe how 3D is used will be more important to how 3DS games look than anythign else. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 18, 2011, 08:58:08 AM
Yeah, in a way 3d sidesteps aliasing and resolution to a certain extent.  That might just be the novelty of it at the moment though.  As far as regular consumers are concerned I imagine the graphics yields of ngp or iphone are going to be nil because the perceived prowess is going to be with autostereoscopic 3d in the handheld space.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Diunx on March 18, 2011, 11:06:38 AM
Games look more appealing than the ones on a six years old portable? SOLD!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 18, 2011, 11:09:23 AM
Even without the power of the CellTM and Blu-ray, 3DS does 3d better than the PS3.   :patel
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 18, 2011, 11:09:27 AM
Then again, wii and ds proved hardly any one really gives a shit about graphical prowess.  I still think the 3d was probably Nintendo's best bet at differentiating themselves from the competition without having to engage in an arms race.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Himu on March 18, 2011, 11:10:24 AM
Even without the power of the CellTM and Blu-ray, 3DS does 3d better than the PS3.   :patel

:bow NINTENDO :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 18, 2011, 11:18:17 AM
Then again, wii and ds proved hardly any one really gives a shit about graphical prowess.  I still think the 3d was probably Nintendo's best bet at differentiating themselves from the competition without having to engage in an arms race.

Overgeneralization. It depends on the games.  If I'm just flailing my arms, pretending to play a sport against another dummy, then yes, graphics don't matter.  NBA2K is a completely different matter and most players of that game would agree that the graphical presentation plays a big role in making NBA2K enjoyable. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 18, 2011, 11:27:56 AM
Then again, wii and ds proved hardly any one really gives a shit about graphical prowess.  I still think the 3d was probably Nintendo's best bet at differentiating themselves from the competition without having to engage in an arms race.

Overgeneralization. It depends on the games.  If I'm just flailing my arms, pretending to play a sport against another dummy, then yes, graphics don't matter.  NBA2K is a completely different matter and most players of that game would agree that the graphical presentation plays a big role in making NBA2K enjoyable. 

What I'm saying is that the majority of gamers these days are farmvilling, IOSing, or justdancing and similar stuff.  They don't need unreal engine 4.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: maxy on March 18, 2011, 11:45:54 AM
Quote
When Nintendo's global president Satoru Iwata rocked this year's Game Developers Conference with his controversial comments about developers of social and mobile games, there were a lot of questions. Was the company showing fear? Was it being too rigid in its thinking? Was Iwata actually right on the money?

A few people, though, were asking a more practical question: If the company felt this new breed of garage developers (like Rovio in its early days or Tiny Wings developer Andreas Illiger) were undervaluing their games, why not establish an opportunity for them to sell to the Nintendo audience at higher prices?

But Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime says that's not in the cards – near-term or long-term.

"I would separate out the true independent developer vs. the hobbyist," says Fils-Aime. "We are absolutely reaching out to the independent developer."

"Where we've drawn the line is we are not looking to do business today with the garage developer. In our view, that’s not a business we want to pursue."

Many of the developers making the sorts of games referred to in the keynote, he says, are similar to amateur musicians who hold down other jobs. That's a different class than people who make their living creating games.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/33595/Interview_Reggie_FilsAime_On_Garage_Devs_And_The_Value_Of_Software.php (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/33595/Interview_Reggie_FilsAime_On_Garage_Devs_And_The_Value_Of_Software.php)

Nintendo now shits on "garage devs" and yet young Iwata was exactly that...nice,it will bite them in their fat asses

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first western 3DS game review...Riiidge Racer!)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 18, 2011, 11:49:29 AM
Garage devs can't afford their royalties and devkits, of course they don't value them.  :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Diunx on March 18, 2011, 12:25:37 PM
So nintendo only wants hollywood gaming on the 3ds? :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: magus on March 18, 2011, 12:34:36 PM
devs not wanted? i don't see how it differs from nintendo usual strategy ???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 18, 2011, 12:38:54 PM
As far as regular consumers are concerned I imagine the graphics yields of ngp or iphone are going to be nil because the perceived prowess is going to be with autostereoscopic 3d in the handheld space.

iawtp
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Raban on March 18, 2011, 01:48:17 PM
Got to play around with a 3DS at Best Buy yesterday. Pilotwings is a pretty cool game. The 3D doesn't work for me, and also gave me a headache :fbm

Other than that, it's a solid handheld, just...not worth $250. I'd love to play OoT on [a hardware revision of] that thing.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: bork on March 18, 2011, 01:53:00 PM
I don't even care about the 3D.  I just see this hardware as Nintendo FINALLY catching up with the PSP, and hopefully getting good third-party support.

The lure of portable SSF4 is just too much for me to resist and I'm looking forward to the Warriors Orochi-like character switching system in Samurai Warriors at launch.  Getting Ridge Racer for the hell of it.  Looking forward to Dead Or Alive: Rehash Edition.  Beyond the upcoming RE games though, I have no idea what else I really want. 

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: magus on March 18, 2011, 02:02:58 PM
the various level 5 games? i mean that's the only thing that looks remotely interessing so far anyway....

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: bork on March 18, 2011, 02:52:34 PM
Don't care about RPGs and Layton.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: originalz on March 18, 2011, 02:56:02 PM
I'm probably going to go with Super Street Fighter 4 3D Edition and the Samurai Warriors games for my launch.  Ridge Racer is tempting too, but don't want to overdo it.  Still, these games gotta last me awhile once I take off for Japan...might be stuck only playing downloadable games between trips to Akihabara or Play-Asia.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: bork on March 18, 2011, 04:38:52 PM
Get RR for good measure!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 18, 2011, 06:22:56 PM
It's okay, garage devs can continue to release their games on the XBLA Indie Games and Steam/Impulse/whatever where no one buys them because they look like crap and suck balls.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: originalz on March 18, 2011, 06:33:23 PM
Yeah, but there'll probably be a NGP version of Ridge Racer which will just be an upgraded version of the 3DS one, I'm sure!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 18, 2011, 06:42:10 PM
hopefully getting good third-party support.

Nice try, sfag but why would a highly affordable Nintendo portable not get 3rd party support? 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: bork on March 18, 2011, 06:48:57 PM
Yeah, but there'll probably be a NGP version of Ridge Racer which will just be an upgraded version of the 3DS one, I'm sure!

But there is no NGP version that exists yet, nor is there an NGP to play it on!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 18, 2011, 06:50:02 PM
I don't even know why you're picking sides when both companies represent your country. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Himu on March 18, 2011, 07:10:57 PM
i don't understand why people are picking sides when both are likely to be fucking awesome
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: cool breeze on March 18, 2011, 08:32:26 PM
Normally I'd agree, but the PSP2 is categorically better than the 3DS (a lie because the 3DS does have 3D as its sole advantage).  At the end of the day I'd much rather have more support for the PSP2, and I couldn't really say that about the DS or even Wii.

anyway, it is a shame to hear that Pilotwings takes 2 hours to finish.  I might end up getting Ridge Racer because it is a new console launch and it's hard to stay sane.  I'm also thinking about switching my order from the black to blue.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Damian79 on March 18, 2011, 08:53:17 PM
I dont understand why you wouldnt want support for the 3ds compared to the wii.  It should be the other way around.  Atleast on the DS companies were releasing their games on the ds in foreign countries.  I bet the same if people buy enough 3DS's.  I hope the wii dies a horrible death.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 18, 2011, 08:56:54 PM
mod-sanctioned sfagottry ruining another forum whoduve thunk it  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Damian79 on March 18, 2011, 09:00:35 PM
You should trying being more poilte and have actual points if you want people to respond to you.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Damian79 on March 18, 2011, 09:04:27 PM
I think what they mean by garage devs is that creepy single guy making a games that toook 30k hours to make.  And went insane.  You guys knwo who i am talkign about.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Vizzys on March 18, 2011, 09:06:51 PM
poor bobs game  :gloomy
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: archie4208 on March 18, 2011, 09:07:27 PM
I think what they mean by garage devs is that creepy single guy making a games that toook 30k hours to make.  And went insane.  You guys knwo who i am talkign about.

Notch?  ???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Damian79 on March 18, 2011, 09:08:25 PM
poor bobs game  :gloomy

Thats the one.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 18, 2011, 09:20:53 PM
You should trying being more poilte and have actual points if you want people to respond to you.

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/5180/indexln.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 18, 2011, 09:21:34 PM
Pilotwings is only 2 hours?

Nintendos itself is a garage developer.

I think it's really more of a tech demo for the 3D technology than a real game. It looked really cool when I played it on the demo kiosk. I don't know wtf is up with Steel Driver though, it just looks like crap. Will pass on both of those and just pick up Samurai Warrior Chronicles at launch probably.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 18, 2011, 09:27:29 PM
How much are they charging for this shit software?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 18, 2011, 09:28:22 PM
40 bones

With PSP-level tech comes PSP-level prices (before it bombed and they had to slash them). :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: MCD on March 18, 2011, 09:39:09 PM
Did they hack this POS yet?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Damian79 on March 18, 2011, 09:43:01 PM
NM.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: cool breeze on March 18, 2011, 09:56:19 PM
I dont understand why you wouldnt want support for the 3ds compared to the wii.  It should be the other way around.  Atleast on the DS companies were releasing their games on the ds in foreign countries.  I bet the same if people buy enough 3DS's.  I hope the wii dies a horrible death.

because the Wii has some cool games that wouldn't have been made without the pointer/waggle controls.  I like House of the Dead Overkill and Boom Blox and Marble Saga and Pro Evo Soccer.  It has games that wouldn't work on the other systems (until recently with Kinect/Move).  DS was similar in that it had a touch screen and cool games like Ouendan and Trauma Center and Kirby that couldn't be done on the PSP.  The only advantage the 3DS hardware has over the PSP2 is the 3D effect.  Other than that  games will look and play better on the PSP2. 

I saw a video of Splinter Cell on the 3DS and it uses the face buttons as a second analog stick PSP-style.  Why would I want to use half-assed solutions like that when I can just use two analog sticks on the PSP2? and real analog sticks, not sliders (I'm glad to hear the 3DS slider is better than the shitty PSP ones, though).  And if there is a game that requires the touch screen, would I rather play it on a 3-inch resistive touch screen (not even in 3D) or a 5-inch capacitive multi-touch screen?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Damian79 on March 18, 2011, 10:22:37 PM
I would much rather play ti on the 3 inch because i can use the stylus, i know i cant use the stylus on the ipod touch so i dotn have much hopes for the 5 inch.  But maybe that is just me.  I doubt that Sony is going to promote the touch screen/pad etc that much.  Also because the analog stick stick out i wouldnt carry it aroudn where i go, i much rather be playing games on consoles if i had a choice

As for wii those games could have been done on eyetoy imo.  The reasons why thos games came on the wii is becuase Nintendo was promoting that style of gameplay.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 19, 2011, 12:54:59 AM
Funny that Nintendo is taking shots at "garage devs" when nearly their entire Wii output has been garage shovelware. Remember when we were promised a new age of gameplay. evolutions in control etc. Half a decade later and all we have are a mixture of point-and-click/drag games. There has been no massive gaming opus that changed everything. Mario Galaxy is amazing, but would be amazing with standard controls too.

We should have known what was up when Miyamoto waxed longingly about wanting games to be as easy as planting flowers in his garden. Who knew it could be as mundane too.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 19, 2011, 01:54:24 AM
There are definitely some games that can't be replicated on the NGP, like the ones simulating pen controls, but I think I lot of people are neglecting the screen size difference; a multitouch capacitive screen makes no sense on a 3 inch screen compared to 5 inches, on the latter your fingers are bound to be more accurate and less obstructive. By the way, how many DS games really required that level of precision? 95% of the games I own and intend to buy doesn't, neither the ones I want on the 3DS.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 19, 2011, 01:57:11 AM
I was hearing on Weekend Confirmed that the lower screen can be used for 1 touch combos in SF4.  Seems like something that can't be done on the NGP PSP2.  They also made the 2.5D perspective (but with 3D on) sound really cool.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 19, 2011, 02:05:52 AM
Four giant thumb-friendly buttons on the touchsreen for one touch specials: fireballs, dp, etc. Nothing that can't be mapped and replicated on the back touchpad, but that's beside the point as it's one of the worst implementations of the touch screen. I had no idea you were that type of noob, smooth.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 19, 2011, 02:07:18 AM
I've always admitted that I own high-end joysticks but don't know how to use them.  :lol

Also keep in mind that handhelds always suck ass for 6 button fighters, which is why the extra touchscreen controls could work. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 19, 2011, 02:13:55 AM
Yeah, I can't wait for the day when I reach for the touch screen to execute lows :lol combos are gonna be fun to pull!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Diunx on March 19, 2011, 02:19:32 AM
I was hearing on Weekend Confirmed that the lower screen can be used for 1 touch combos in SF4.  Seems like something that can't be done on the NGP PSP2.  They also made the 2.5D perspective (but with 3D on) sound really cool.

:yuck
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Damian79 on March 19, 2011, 02:23:10 AM
There are definitely some games that can't be replicated on the NGP, like the ones simulating pen controls, but I think I lot of people are neglecting the screen size difference; a multitouch capacitive screen makes no sense on a 3 inch screen compared to 5 inches, on the latter your fingers are bound to be more accurate and less obstructive. By the way, how many DS games really required that level of precision? 95% of the games I own and intend to buy doesn't, neither the ones I want on the 3DS.

Pretty much all the games that require the stylus need that level of precision.  Like Ouendan etc.  But yeah that is like 5% of games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 19, 2011, 02:30:32 AM
Oh yeah, it's timed so that you can't keep spamming them.  I guess that I would agree with Khan if handhelds' D-pads and shoulder buttons weren't so shit.  I wasn't checking closely when I played the 3DS but I'm guessing it's still the same.  

I don't know why Diunx disapproves though.  He's the most casual gamer here.  
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 19, 2011, 07:16:32 AM
There are definitely some games that can't be replicated on the NGP, like the ones simulating pen controls, but I think I lot of people are neglecting the screen size difference; a multitouch capacitive screen makes no sense on a 3 inch screen compared to 5 inches, on the latter your fingers are bound to be more accurate and less obstructive. By the way, how many DS games really required that level of precision? 95% of the games I own and intend to buy doesn't, neither the ones I want on the 3DS.

They could have bundled in a capacitive stylus and had the best of both worlds.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 19, 2011, 07:27:36 AM
True, but I can almost see them backing up Steve's philosophies :derp
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: cool breeze on March 19, 2011, 12:58:35 PM
There is an ouendan clone for the iphone called osu that controls fine.  Probably better with a stylus, but as admiralviscen says, there are capacitive stylus.  And even at the small 3 inch size, the 3DS touch screen would benefit from capacitive because you could use your fingers comfortably.  Kid Icarus, Conduit 3DS (this is a real thing  :-X) and other games use the touch screen for camera control; like the DS, it requires use of the stylus.

also, blazblue on the ps3/360 did something similar to sf4ds by mapping special attacks to the right analog stick.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 19, 2011, 01:15:50 PM
Right analog stick once again proving how amazing of an addition it is :bow
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: SantaC on March 19, 2011, 06:36:59 PM
lolz apparently IGN reviewed the handheld as a whole and gave the value a 4.0

I dont know whats more distinguished mentally-challenged, IGN reviewing the 3DS with scores or Nintendo crapping the bed with the batterylife.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 19, 2011, 07:03:29 PM
lolz apparently IGN reviewed the handheld as a whole and gave the value a 4.0

I dont know whats more distinguished mentally-challenged, IGN reviewing the 3DS with scores or Nintendo crapping the bed with the batterylife.

 ??? ??? ???

(http://i.imgur.com/DBO4u.jpg)

I'm not saying that the 3DS and/or IGN don't still suck, though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 19, 2011, 07:07:09 PM
Battery life is fine with me.  I'm not a nerdlinger.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Bebpo on March 19, 2011, 07:10:23 PM
I play PSP regularly.  It's not going to feel any different.

I still have no games pre-ordered.  I think I'm going to get a 3DS and play with the interface for a year until games come out ;_;
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 19, 2011, 07:34:04 PM
As a Musou whore, the idea that there is a competent handheld Musou game is very tempting for me to pick up a 3DS with Samurai Warriors.  If Ridge Racer is a great game as well (I loved the PSP original and RR6 on 360), I might swallow my pride and get a 3DS with those games.

Funny that Nintendo is taking shots at "garage devs" when nearly their entire Wii output has been garage shovelware. Remember when we were promised a new age of gameplay. evolutions in control etc. Half a decade later and all we have are a mixture of point-and-click/drag games. There has been no massive gaming opus that changed everything. Mario Galaxy is amazing, but would be amazing with standard controls too.

We should have known what was up when Miyamoto waxed longingly about wanting games to be as easy as planting flowers in his garden. Who knew it could be as mundane too.

You've been spot on about Nintendo games and policies these days.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2011, 07:37:59 PM
Samurai Warriors and Ridge Racer definitely seem to be the games to get at launch.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Bebpo on March 19, 2011, 08:56:47 PM
Samurai Warriors and Ridge Racer definitely seem to be the games to get at launch.

I'd rather play Gundam Musou 3 or Samurai Warriors 3Z or Dynasty Warriors 7 if I wanted to play musou.  Likewise I'd just play RR6/7 if I wanted to play Ridge. 

Needs compelling original software.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 19, 2011, 08:57:59 PM
Playing a match or two of SF4 while pooping is compelling enough for me. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: magus on March 19, 2011, 09:13:43 PM
Quote
Needs compelling original software.

yea and that software is probably level 5 games cause the words original and nintendo just don't mash well together and i surely don't see anybody else giving a care

but since all of level 5 games on the DS are all published by nintendo and they aren't going to publish anything else outside of layton which will probably get released by 2013,there is really nothing interessing for the poor gaijin
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2011, 09:17:00 PM
Steel Diver looks pretty original to me. It's just that no one knows anything about it. It's also a Miyamoto game.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2011, 09:18:13 PM

but since all of level 5 games on the DS are all published by nintendo and they aren't going to publish anything else outside of layton which will probably get released by 2013,there is really nothing interessing for the poor gaijin


level 5 set up their own offices in America.  8)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: magus on March 19, 2011, 09:18:37 PM
i said a while ago but i had a chance to try it out,you aim around with the gyroscope and everytime you get hits,you have to touch the leak on your touch screen to repair it,it really was more "WOW THE 3D EFFECT WAS SO COOL" than "oh the excitement of aiming at stuff!"

the only thing missing is shouting "FIRE!" to shoot and the trifecta of gimmicks would be complete... actualy that would be pretty cool
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2011, 09:33:59 PM
Isn't it a sim?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: magus on March 19, 2011, 09:41:29 PM
the demo didn't have the sim part ,but as i said you just aim at enemy submarines with the gyroscope and repair damage by touching leaks on the touch screen

there is also a part that looks like a sidescroller that was in the demo but i didn't play it so i can't really comment,tough this video doesn't make it looks anything exciting

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R7hfCgFpr4[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i8p-gw-0cA[/youtube]

FAIRRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 19, 2011, 09:44:58 PM
prediction: after two years few developers will be using the 3D functions, and barely any developers will use the touch screen outside of menu shit
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 19, 2011, 09:45:55 PM
I play handhelds in my own living area with the charger close by so I really don't give a shit.

Then why would you buy a handheld in the first place?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Nintendosbooger on March 19, 2011, 10:07:15 PM
Quote
Needs compelling original software.

yea and that software is probably level 5 games cause the words original and nintendo just don't mash well together and i surely don't see anybody else giving a care

but since all of level 5 games on the DS are all published by nintendo and they aren't going to publish anything else outside of layton which will probably get released by 2013,there is really nothing interessing for the poor gaijin


99% of all your favorite games were developed by programmers and designers that are/were inspired by Nintendo. Nintendo's originality and innovation, as a software and hardware designer, is unmatched in this industry. Now, there have been games that have matched and exceeded Nintendo's trademark polish - and the Big N has even been beaten at their own game a few times - but those are flash in the pan efforts by developers who couldn't sustain such high and demanding standards (e.g.,  Rare, Double Fine Productions, Media Molecule, etc.).
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: cool breeze on March 19, 2011, 10:18:49 PM
Steel Diver looks pretty original to me. It's just that no one knows anything about it. It's also a Miyamoto game.

so was wii music

[youtube=560,345]iSEWyU3QVwM[/youtube]

Steel diver is a fleshed out tech demo from the DS (around 20 seconds into the video).  The original intent seemed to be showcasing the touch screen.  Doesn't seem to have changed in the past six or seven years, except now there is a tech demo bit for the gyros.

If you want an actual cool and original game with a similar concept, check out Chou Soujuu Mecha MG for the DS.  You need to import it, but it's worth it if you liked RAD on the PS2.  The bottom screen has a bunch of knobs and levels and wheels (interface changes with each mech) that control the mech on the top screen.  Steel Diver just looks like junk.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Bebpo on March 19, 2011, 10:48:26 PM
Yeah, I'm hearing Steel Diver is a pass.

SSF4 is cool, and if I was like huge SF4 fan I would be all over a portable version, but I never got that into SF4/SSF4.  The only portable fighter I'd be excited for is if they ported the latest Virtua Fighter.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: bork on March 20, 2011, 01:46:00 AM
Tried the 3DS at Best Buy Friday night.  The analog thumb pad is awesome and shits all over the PSP's analog nub.  The 3D effect was kinda cool, but I don't think I'd be able to stand using it for very long.  It did make Pilotwings look better when the effect was enabled.  Definitely a slick little device.  I just keep wondering if it's going to be annihilated by the NGP or if this will the DS Vs. PSP all over again.

Samurai Warriors and Ridge Racer definitely seem to be the games to get at launch.

I'd replace Ridge Racer with SSF4.  It is the "killer app" for the system at launch.


I'd rather play Gundam Musou 3 or Samurai Warriors 3Z or Dynasty Warriors 7 if I wanted to play musou.  Likewise I'd just play RR6/7 if I wanted to play Ridge. 

Needs compelling original software.

I would have said that, except that Samurai Warriors Chronicles looks like it has a much more in-depth story mode and has a Warriors Orochi-like team system, letting you switch between FOUR characters at a time.  That is fucking awesome and I'd rather play that over 3Z.  If I had known about this I never would have imported 3Z.

But I still think Dynasty Warriors 7 is going to beat the shit out of all the other musou games, and it comes out here the same week the 3DS launches.

And Koei needs to stop with releasing 2-3 musou games every fucking MONTH.  It's ridiculous.  I just hope no one was dumb enough to buy Troy Musou! 

As a Musou whore, the idea that there is a competent handheld Musou game is very tempting for me to pick up a 3DS with Samurai Warriors.  If Ridge Racer is a great game as well (I loved the PSP original and RR6 on 360), I might swallow my pride and get a 3DS with those games.

Did you never play Warriors Orochi 1 and 2 on PSP?  The first one is only missing a little bit, and the second game has everything intact, plus the extra characters/features added into the Japanese-only Musou Orochi Z.  It's a really well-done port.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 20, 2011, 01:50:25 AM
I'd love to buy SSFIV for launch, but I'm pretty burnt on fighters. I played SSFIV, BBCS, and MvC3 back to back :-\

Did they announce a Layton release? that would be a perfect launch game for me, other than that I'm mostly looking at some missed DS game. Don't ask me why I'm buying this day 1, I'm just gonna.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Bebpo on March 20, 2011, 01:57:36 AM
They can't bring over Layton 3DS because they're still missing a DS entry which is the direct prequel to the 3DS one :X  Going to be a few years...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 20, 2011, 02:07:08 AM
I wonder why you nerds find the 3D so hard to stomach.  Y'all probably need to go outside more often to enjoy the glorious 3D view. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 20, 2011, 02:08:03 AM
They can't bring over Layton 3DS because they're still missing a DS entry which is the direct prequel to the 3DS one :X  Going to be a few years...

Ughhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: cool breeze on March 20, 2011, 02:37:09 AM
I'd love to buy SSFIV for launch, but I'm pretty burnt on fighters. I played SSFIV, BBCS, and MvC3 back to back :-\

Did they announce a Layton release? that would be a perfect launch game for me, other than that I'm mostly looking at some missed DS game. Don't ask me why I'm buying this day 1, I'm just gonna.

My reasoning is that I know I'm buying Ocarina of Time in June, and I don't think this thing is going to get much cheaper in ~2 months.

I want Pilotwings and that's what I'm buying, but it definitely sounds disappointing when it can be finished in under 3 hours (as in, 100% everything).  And apparently the way pad the length are collectibles that extend the time you can play.  So, yeah.  That for $39.99  :-\  I'm a terrible consumer, or a great one, I don't know anymore.

(That's just my reasoning.  It's really because I like getting new hardware to play with.  I don't own every iteration of the DS and PSP (sans DS XL) because I'm sane.)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 20, 2011, 02:44:41 AM
Oh yeah, I forgot about OoT, unlike anyone who calls himself a gamer, I never actually played the game :-[

Pilotwings is another title I was really interested in, but I'm gonna skip for the same reason you cited. I don't care for Steel Diver, or RR, so I might end up picking the Musou game only.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: SantaC on March 20, 2011, 05:34:56 AM
Quote
Needs compelling original software.


but since all of level 5 games on the DS are all published by nintendo and they aren't going to publish anything else outside of layton which will probably get released by 2013,there is really nothing interessing for the poor gaijin


castlevania 3DS
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: magus on March 20, 2011, 08:31:12 AM
konami is dead,having imaginary konami games is not good for your mental health :-\

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/download-1.jpg?t=1300624798)

number of games reduced from awesome 2D graphics to crappy 3D ones thanks to the 3D gimmick = 2!
we can do better!

(first would be cave story btw)

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Diunx on March 20, 2011, 11:05:49 AM
Steel Diver looks like the most boring shit ever, why are you guys talking about it? I didn't even know it was from nintendo it just looks like some random launch shovelware that some poor company put together in a few months.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: archie4208 on March 20, 2011, 11:15:33 AM
Steel Diver looks like a poor man's Silent Hunter.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2011, 12:05:59 PM
RIP 2d GAMING
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 20, 2011, 12:27:24 PM
Samurai Warriors and Ridge Racer definitely seem to be the games to get at launch.

I'd rather play Gundam Musou 3 or Samurai Warriors 3Z or Dynasty Warriors 7 if I wanted to play musou.  Likewise I'd just play RR6/7 if I wanted to play Ridge. 

Needs compelling original software.

I will probably end up playing all of those Musou games and I spent dozens of hours in RR6.  Doesn't make me want these games any less.

I agree about the lack of original software but it seems like there are a few good original games coming down the pipeline.  If it doesn't pan out, I can always sell it when the NGP comes out, no big deal.  Heck, I can probably sell it almost at cost this Christmas most likely if it isn't holding up.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: iconoclast on March 20, 2011, 12:33:56 PM
RIP 2d GAMING

Alive and well on the Xbox 360. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRrVTR0GbgM&feature=channel_video_title) :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 20, 2011, 12:34:30 PM
RIP 2d GAMING

Alive and well on the PC. :smug

.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: iconoclast on March 20, 2011, 12:35:29 PM
True. MAME is the greatest gaming platform of all time. :bow
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2011, 12:47:48 PM
RIP 2d GAMING

Alive and well on the Xbox 360. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRrVTR0GbgM&feature=channel_video_title) :smug

Yawn.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: MCD on March 20, 2011, 05:36:00 PM
>2D

Old nostalgia trash.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Damian79 on March 20, 2011, 08:09:52 PM
You gettign the nyko accessory that doubles battery life wrathx?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garbage devs welcome!)
Post by: Trent Dole on March 20, 2011, 11:29:25 PM
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l207/fgsfdsfargeg/GD.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: maxy on March 21, 2011, 03:44:34 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=758XnbiZ7n0&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 21, 2011, 05:05:25 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=758XnbiZ7n0&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

That's being headed up by Julian Gollop, who created the XCOM series.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Vizzys on March 21, 2011, 06:00:37 PM
Ive heard good impressions of shadow wars

ill wait for a review tho
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 21, 2011, 06:28:28 PM
I had no idea this game was turn based strategy. I'll have to keep an eye on it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: bork on March 21, 2011, 07:37:33 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot about OoT, unlike anyone who calls himself a gamer, I never actually played the game :-[

Pilotwings is another title I was really interested in, but I'm gonna skip for the same reason you cited. I don't care for Steel Diver, or RR, so I might end up picking the Musou game only.

Seems like a lot of cash to drop on just a musou game.  Get DW7 instead and just skip the 3DS for now.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: pilonv1 on March 21, 2011, 08:09:08 PM
:lol Garbage Day
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: cool breeze on March 21, 2011, 10:12:09 PM
People are talking about Toys R Us deals for 3DS games.  I don't know if there is an official source or whatever, but it's:

This Sunday (release date of the 3DS): buy one, get one 50% off (so $60 for 2 games).  The following Sunday in April: buy select 3DS games, get $10 credit.

If that is the case, I might get Ridge Racer too.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: demi on March 22, 2011, 09:18:46 AM
I got to play with 3DS while in Chicago.

WOW! I loved the AR Card. Easily Gimmick of the Year. I love the 3D effect. I am this close to buying one day one - just for the AR Card, to show it to people.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: muckhole on March 22, 2011, 09:19:57 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=758XnbiZ7n0&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

That's being headed up by Julian Gollop, who created the XCOM series.

That's actually the only launch title I'm excited for. But at least I get my new hardware fever fix.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: maxy on March 23, 2011, 09:19:14 AM
Quote
Yoshinori Ono will battle fans and sign copies of Street Fighter 3DS game tomorrow

The producer of Super Street Fighter IV Yoshinori Ono will be present at the official 3DS launch at HMV Oxford Street tomorrow night.

Ono will take part in Street Fighter battles on stage and conduct an exclusive signing to mark the launch of Nintendo’s new 3DS handheld. It goes on sale at midnight on the night of Thursday, March 24th.

“I’ll be visiting HMV’s flagship shop in London at 11pm 24th,” Ono said on Twitter, before posting an image of his Blanka Street Fighter figurine at an airport.

“I'll ride on plane to London. I’m looking forward to meet European Street Fighter fans,” he added.

Super Street Fighter IV 3D is a launch title for the 3DS.

The first 500 people in the queue at HMV Oxford Street tomorrow night will get a free 3DS game of their choice. The retailer will also open 100 UK stores nationwide to celebrate the launch of the 3DS.

A separate 3DS VIP launch event will hold 2,000 guests and will feature performances from Plan B, Hadouken, DJ Yoda and more.


http://www.mcvuk.com/news/43624/SSFIV-producer-heads-to-3DS-launch (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/43624/SSFIV-producer-heads-to-3DS-launch)

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Don Flamenco on March 23, 2011, 12:07:05 PM
So the CycloDS works with this thing and the Acekard 2i is supposed to get an update that lets it work on the 3DS.  Has anything been said about Nintendo blocking these?  Could a firmware update easily block these? 

If they work on a launch 3DS, I might get one, then wait for games to come out to update.  My other option is hoping that cheap DSi systems pop up on Amazon Warehouse on 3DS launch (cheapest is $95 right now)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2011, 12:09:26 PM
There's a rumor that using r4's makes Nintendo brick your system.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: demi on March 23, 2011, 12:11:14 PM
$95 is hella cheap... I didnt know Don Flamenco was a poor though, so I guess that's ok.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 23, 2011, 12:34:43 PM
There's a rumor that using r4's makes Nintendo brick your system.

I'm gonna file this under FUD until hard reports start floating around.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: magus on March 23, 2011, 12:41:40 PM
There's a rumor that using r4's makes Nintendo brick your system.

I'm gonna file this under FUD until hard reports start floating around.

if you search for the rumor,you will find this on gonintendo who reports destructoid who reports some small-time new site

all of these parts have in their best interess to go "FLASHCARD WILL TURN YOU INTO A BABY EATING DEMONS" so yeah......
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2011, 01:14:37 PM
Well, it makes sense.

The 3ds has a feature that documents what game you've played and for how long.

Apparently flashcarts seem to say their name of the cart used (dead giveaway), or are labeled as one game played with an obscene number of hours.

With online implementation, coding something to brick anyone with questionable stuff like this should be easy.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: magus on March 23, 2011, 01:22:47 PM
you are saying that like the DS or the Wii have no way at all to realize that...

let's go the other way around,the first batch of flashcard wasn't 3DS compatible so they had to do a second batch (which happened really quickly,like instantly) at that point why not brick the 3DS as soon as the first batch was detected and blocked?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2011, 01:25:09 PM
ds online implementation is poor and doesn't tell what games you've been playing and wii is irrelevant because wii piracy isn't as big as ds piracy.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: magus on March 23, 2011, 01:27:16 PM
the ds online implementation is poor yet at the moment there isn't even an online shops on 3DS and we are worrying about mystical bricking update :lol

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: demi on March 23, 2011, 01:28:17 PM
Magus laying the smack. Nintendo didnt learn shit, never does, never will. Enjoy your port of Ocarina.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2011, 01:29:04 PM
the ds online implementation is poor yet at the moment there isn't even an online shops on 3DS and we are worrying about mystical bricking update :lol

I'm not saying it's true, just saying it's feasible.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: maxy on March 23, 2011, 01:40:51 PM
If true nintendo will be facing huge lawsuits,bricking hardware is no-no.It will be cracked,bypased anyway.

MS tried to "brick" 360 hard-drives some time ago...next update magically made them fully operational
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Don Flamenco on March 23, 2011, 01:48:42 PM
lol they can't purposely brick systems as a punishment for flash cards.  Maybe they'll ban you from online, but I don't think 3DS online will be important any way.

$95 is hella cheap... I didnt know Don Flamenco was a poor though, so I guess that's ok.


not poor, but I am Jewish.  the idea of saving $20 by waiting 5 days is almost more exciting than the system itself!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Raban on March 23, 2011, 04:05:47 PM
There was a dude on the local CL who was selling a DSi XL for $60 that I e-mailed about...haven't gotten a reply :fbm
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: bork on March 23, 2011, 09:15:24 PM
Gaffots are freaking out over TEH SHORTAGE!!!11  :o :o :o

I dropped by the Gamestop I have the system reserved at to trade in some games, and the clerk told me that today was the cut-off date.  Everyone at that location who reserved before tonight is fine. 

So once again, I wonder why the types of people who would bite their nails off over not getting a system at launch don't go and pre-order one somewhere.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 23, 2011, 09:26:49 PM
Or people could just wait, literally, several days.  It's what I did for the Wii.  Got one just fine the following Wednesday.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: bork on March 23, 2011, 09:35:11 PM
It's hard to say with that...I remember my sister-in-law had to keep trying week after week after week to get my brother a Wii for a present.

But on the flip side of the coin, when I was in the land of waiting for stupid games, Japan, I got two DS Lites a week after launch despite everyone reporting "MASSIVE SHORTAGES EVERYWHERE!!!."  Just went to two stores, reserved them, and they called me.  Simple as that.  I sold the second Lite for a nice little profit online.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: cool breeze on March 23, 2011, 10:27:00 PM
I'm glad to hear today really was the last day to preorder.  I asked if I could switched my order to blue and the person said "YES BUT YOU HAVE TO DO IT TODAY...LIKE RIGHT NOW" it was too much pressure so I ran away.  I was thinking about getting blue because it kinda looks like a toy with glitter and stuff and blue seems more child-like.  But kept my black order anyway, and I'll probably get a white PSP2 to keep the balance.  I like to have an ebony and ivory theme going.


btw, I think Kmart has a deal where you get $25 of a 3DS game when you buy the system there. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Trent Dole on March 23, 2011, 10:29:47 PM
Gaffots are freaking out over TEH SHORTAGE!!!11  :o :o :o

I dropped by the Gamestop I have the system reserved at to trade in some games, and the clerk told me that today was the cut-off date.  Everyone at that location who reserved before tonight is fine. 

So once again, I wonder why the types of people who would bite their nails off over not getting a system at launch don't go and pre-order one somewhere.
Uh, my job got nine of them in and we have a whopping three reserves. This won't be as hard to get a hold of at launch as a proper console.  :P
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 23, 2011, 10:49:23 PM
I preordered one at Best Buy last Friday, and I think I was the first person to preorder one because (a) the machine that printed out the preorder tickets had paper jammed in it and I had to get some guy to come over and fix it, and (b) when I took the ticket to the front desk, the girl had no idea what it was and called over a manager who also had no idea what it was, but fortunately the ticket had instructions on it for what you were supposed to do with it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: demi on March 23, 2011, 10:57:55 PM
or it could be you live in hickville oklahoma where they still use tractors
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 23, 2011, 11:12:06 PM
True, the Tractor Supply probably sold out of preorders once that 3DS commercial aired on Nancy Grace.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Damian79 on March 24, 2011, 12:52:58 AM
Quote
Preorders for Nintendo's imminent 3DS portable hardware on Amazon UK are now more than double what the Wii achieved in 2006, putting it ahead of all other Nintendo launches on the online retailer in the region.

It's also 71 percent higher than the previous Amazon UK hardware pre-order record set by the PlayStation 3 in 2007, and more than five times what the Nintendo DSi achieved in 2009.

The preorders are up from late last week, when Amazon UK said 3DS preorders were just 56 percent more than the Nintendo Wii. Amazon UK has not released actual preorder sales figures.

According to Amazon UK, the 3DS has already featured twice in its top ten bestsellers' chart. The launch game lineup for the device, which includes titles like Ridge Racer 3D and Super Street Fighter IV, all occupy spaces on the retailer's top twenty "Hot Future Releases."

Amazon UK's top five most pre-ordered gaming hardware devices are as follows:

1. Nintendo 3DS (March 2011)
2. PlayStation 3 (March 2007)
3. Nintendo Wii (December 2006)
4. Microsoft Kinect (November 2010)
5. PlayStation Move (September 2010)

The 3DS launches in the UK on March 25, and is priced at £187 ($304) on the site.

:(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 24, 2011, 10:20:33 AM
I look forward to another gen of nintendo dominance success and butthurt nerds claiming its hurting their hobby somehow.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: bork on March 24, 2011, 10:29:52 AM
or it could be you live in hickville oklahoma where they still use tractors

Maybe this applies to Trent Dole, too.   :P

The Gamestop near me is one of, if not the highest-traffic stores in Atlanta.  For a while they even had two separate Gamestops in the same mall. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Beezy on March 24, 2011, 10:51:51 AM
Saw this at BB last week. 3D screen is cool, but both screens seem so small. It's a pretty ugly handheld too. The analog slider thingy is cool though. I think I'll wait for the 3DSlite or something.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 24, 2011, 10:56:14 AM
I'm getting excited for the thing after reading impressions from people who I know for a fact aren't lip-locked to Iwata's hole; first DCharlie, then Smooth, and now Beezy. Good stuff.

(Although to be fair, Beezy is newly converted and used to be a self-loathing ninthing)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Beezy on March 24, 2011, 11:00:48 AM
I still like Nintendo, but they haven't done shit for me lately. Even the recent vids for the new Zelda, my favorite Nin franchise, didn't excite me at all. :(

Btw, the 3D effect was fucking with my head when I had my glasses on. I felt fine when I played it without them.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on March 24, 2011, 11:07:21 AM
I'll probably buy one when there's something on there that's worth playing.  Pilotwings and Street Fighter aren't doing it for me.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: muckhole on March 24, 2011, 11:10:22 AM
That's why I'm hanging all my hopes on Ghost Recon. If I wasn't such an X-Com nut, the software end of the launch would be a total bust. (May still be, depending on how GR turns out.)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Garage devs not wanted,says Reggie)
Post by: tiesto on March 24, 2011, 11:12:37 AM
Should be getting a nice chunk of tax money soon, but I wasn't interested enough in it to want to preorder. I think I'm gonna wait and just ask for it for my birthday in July. By then, Zeruda will be out and we'll hopefully get a Rocket Slime US confirmation.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Europe launch tommorow)
Post by: maxy on March 24, 2011, 11:35:59 AM
140k 3DS preorders in UK

Eurogamer has 3DS teardown

Quote
According to a "preliminary estimate" handed to Eurogamer by David Carey, VP of technical intelligence for UBM TechInsights, the cost of the system's raw materials comes in at $101 per unit (around £61.76). That equates to around a $15 (around £9.17) increase over the DSi, which launched in 2009 for £149.

Compare that to the 3DS's initial £230 asking price and you wouldn't be blamed for smelling a rat. Bear in mind though that the DSi was released relatively late in the handheld's phenomenally successful life cycle, at a time when Nintendo could afford to take risks, having already made back a significant wedge of its original R&D investment.

Of course, on top of the raw materials there are also a number of other costs to consider, such as labour, marketing, packaging and distribution, not to mention those sizeable R&D costs to recoup. Naturally, Nintendo won't reveal what its margin is or what it charges retailers per unit. However, a reliable retail source tells Eurogamer the going price is £170.73.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-24-why-the-nintendo-3ds-costs-GBP230-article (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-24-why-the-nintendo-3ds-costs-GBP230-article)

Nintendo :poop


Price is going down
Quote
Supermarket Tesco and high-street electronics shop Currys have both lowered the Nintendo 3DS price to under £180.

Tesco is lowest, asking just £175 for the new device, according to MCV. Currys is after £179, wrote TechRadar.

To qualify for that Tesco price, you'll need to buy an accompanying 3DS game in-store.

Curry's will only sell the 3DS for £179 to the first 150 people in line at Currys on Oxford Street, London.

Those 150 people will also get a £75 voucher book, a £5 discount on selected 3DS games, £15 off Wii Fit and £20 off a Wii console.

Supermarket Morrisons and Amazon had offered the joint-lowest 3DS price of £187.


Party time :elephant
Quote
'Nintendo 3DS Ignition' will air tomorrow night on Sky 3D and Sky 1 HD

The 3DS VIP launch event in London’s Old Billingsgate tonight will be broacast by Sky.

Comedian Russell Kane and musicians Plan B, Hadouken, DJ Yoda and Parade will perform at the event which will hold 2,000 guests. Competition winners and Club Nintendo members are among those attending.

The TV show – hosted by Emma Willis – will be broadcast on Friday, March 25th at 11.30pm on Sky 3D and Sky 1 HD.

In January Sky announced it will supply 3D TV shows to the Nintendo 3D, such as sports, entertainment and documentaries. The 3DS goes on sale at midnight tonight in many retailers across the UK.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Europe launch tommorow)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 24, 2011, 01:46:41 PM
The price war in the UK is amazing. You'll often find high profile games sold for half the price day 1, the FIFA and COD games come to mind.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Europe launch tommorow)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 24, 2011, 01:59:10 PM
can't wait for all the innovative games this new gameplay revolution will foster
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Europe launch tommorow)
Post by: SantaC on March 24, 2011, 02:41:37 PM
Castlevania 3DS or bust.

-When I bought the original GBA, I bought it with Castlevania CoM.
-When I bought GBA SP - I did it with Castlevania HoD
-When I bought a DS , I did it for Castlevania DoS

...and so on.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Europe launch tommorow)
Post by: bork on March 24, 2011, 03:10:44 PM
Castlevania 3DS or bust.

-When I bought the original GBA, I bought it with Castlevania CoM.
-When I bought GBA SP - I did it with Castlevania HoD
-When I bought a DS , I did it for Castlevania DoS

...and so on.

Yeah, I thought the original bulky, fat DS sucked and sold it off when I imported a PSP in 2004, but then bought one back the following summer just for Castlevania DoS.  A new title for launch would have been nice, but another sprite rehash game would be too much.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Europe launch tommorow)
Post by: Trent Dole on March 24, 2011, 03:13:48 PM
But what about a sprite rehash ...IN 3-D  :o
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Europe launch tommorow)
Post by: Raban on March 24, 2011, 03:41:13 PM
What exactly is Iga up to right now?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Europe launch tommorow)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 24, 2011, 03:48:54 PM
Cleaning up road kills and stuff.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Europe launch tommorow)
Post by: Raban on March 24, 2011, 03:49:38 PM
:fbm
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Europe launch tommorow)
Post by: Damian79 on March 24, 2011, 06:56:22 PM
Where did you get 140k preorders for the 3ds maxy?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(Europe launch tommorow)
Post by: Damian79 on March 24, 2011, 07:02:41 PM
Ah cvg.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/295201/news/nintendo-3ds-sales-could-clear-200k-in-uk-launch-weekend/
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on March 25, 2011, 05:20:13 AM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-24-ghost-recon-shadow-wars-review (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-24-ghost-recon-shadow-wars-review)
7/10
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 25, 2011, 06:36:24 AM
Quote
Shadow Wars makes for a relatively meaty handheld offering, then, but it's one that's slightly lacking in personality. Despite its tactical flourishes, the single-player runs out of most of its fresh ideas too early in the campaign, while the license, with its stoic US heroes and canny Russian baddies, means the developers (and this is hardly their fault) don't have too much leeway to add the kind of character, atmosphere or flair you could expect from an X-Com or an Advance Wars.

Despite that, Ghost Recon is undoubtedly a chunky, enjoyable addition to the 3DS line-up, and a slick if unspectacular strategy blast.

Not bad I guess.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: magus on March 25, 2011, 11:42:19 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_NLzNBKHeQ[/youtube]

3DS! IT DOES 3D!

sums the console pretty well :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: tiesto on March 25, 2011, 10:54:23 PM
^ guy 10 seconds in looks a bit like Bebpo..
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 26, 2011, 12:46:39 AM
So what's the best place to get one tomorrow?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 26, 2011, 01:05:14 AM
Its a nintendo product, you'll be able to walk right in and just buy one
...
or it will sell out for 4 years straight again.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: maxy on March 26, 2011, 03:20:01 AM


fans face off
Apple vs Nintendo

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/3ds-vs-ipad-2-uk-queue-face-off (http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/3ds-vs-ipad-2-uk-queue-face-off)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: pilonv1 on March 26, 2011, 04:04:09 AM
:lol @ SMB review, 4/10

Quote
Satoru Iwata's startling GDC 2011 speech saw the Nintendo president talk in provocative terms about the importance of "maintaining the value of gaming." "Content is king," he insisted, as he tore into the quantity-over-quality approach of mobile gaming platforms.

It's reasonable, therefore, to imagine Iwata being slightly dismayed that a number of 3DS games launching alongside his company's latest console are little more than ports or franchise updates with a 3D makeover. And with the AppStore likely to have forever realigned the perception of value for money when it comes to portable gaming, it's more important than ever that 3DS software – especially given its increased retail price – offers both quantity and quality.

And so we come to Super Monkey Ball 3D, a game whose end credits you can reach in roughly 90 minutes.

That's not the full story, but even so, you may be shocked at how quickly you'll whizz through the seven themed worlds and the playable credits, a ludicrously extended sequence which must count for around 10 minutes of that tally alone.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: SantaC on March 26, 2011, 04:59:16 AM
worst launch software ever?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: magus on March 26, 2011, 08:14:06 AM
worst launch software ever?

http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/2767711.html
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 26, 2011, 08:29:06 AM
Nintendo DS
U.S. launch: November 21, 2004

    Super Mario 64 DS
    Asphalt Urban GT
    The Urbz: Sims in the City
    Feel the Magic: XY/XX
    Spider-Man 2
    Madden NFL 2005
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 26, 2011, 08:30:02 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_NLzNBKHeQ[/youtube]

3DS! IT DOES 3D!

sums the console pretty well :smug


Yup, I'm assuming that'll be the same expression most averages will show when they try it. The NGP, on the other hand, is gonna have to try a lot harder to garner a similar instant-response.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 26, 2011, 08:32:13 AM
:lol @ SMB review, 4/10

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Satoru Iwata's startling GDC 2011 speech saw the Nintendo president talk in provocative terms about the importance of "maintaining the value of gaming." "Content is king," he insisted, as he tore into the quantity-over-quality approach of mobile gaming platforms.

It's reasonable, therefore, to imagine Iwata being slightly dismayed that a number of 3DS games launching alongside his company's latest console are little more than ports or franchise updates with a 3D makeover. And with the AppStore likely to have forever realigned the perception of value for money when it comes to portable gaming, it's more important than ever that 3DS software – especially given its increased retail price – offers both quantity and quality.

And so we come to Super Monkey Ball 3D, a game whose end credits you can reach in roughly 90 minutes.

That's not the full story, but even so, you may be shocked at how quickly you'll whizz through the seven themed worlds and the playable credits, a ludicrously extended sequence which must count for around 10 minutes of that tally alone.



[youtube=560,345]mYIfRJgb7Mo[/youtube]

Never forget.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Third on March 26, 2011, 10:08:41 AM
Overpriced ghetto hardware.

Never change, Jewtendo.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: bork on March 26, 2011, 11:30:02 AM
So that's what...Super Monkey Ball, Steel Diver, and Pilotwings that can all be beaten in two hours or less?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 26, 2011, 11:35:53 AM
Maybe we're supposed to lengthen gametime by playing each game with various levels of 3D? ???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 26, 2011, 11:43:24 AM
So that's what...Super Monkey Ball, Steel Diver, and Pilotwings that can all be beaten in two hours or less?

And they want people to pay $40 for them? I guess that's the "3D Premium".

What a joke. ::)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: SantaC on March 26, 2011, 12:36:56 PM
Nintendo DS
U.S. launch: November 21, 2004

    Super Mario 64 DS
    Asphalt Urban GT
    The Urbz: Sims in the City
    Feel the Magic: XY/XX
    Spider-Man 2
    Madden NFL 2005

atleast SM64 had extra levels and 4 playable characters. That alone >>>> 3DS launch.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 26, 2011, 12:40:56 PM
SSF4, Pro-Evo and Ghost Recon are all fairly decent launch titles but none of them has the wide appeal of a SM64. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Corporal on March 26, 2011, 01:12:43 PM
Yeah, the 3DS launch has been kinda lackluster.

By the by, am I the only one that really appreciates Feel the Magic XY/XX and its sequel? I love those two games. Nobody else ever seems to care about them.  :(

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Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: bork on March 26, 2011, 01:26:22 PM
Never liked any of the Super Monkey Ball releases after the original.  Still have it on GC...wish I still had the GBA port too.

SSF4, Pro-Evo and Ghost Recon are all fairly decent launch titles but none of them has the wide appeal of a SM64. 

The DS version of SM64 was gimped without an analog stick.

The DS had a shit-tastic launch.  I remember regretting that I sold off my GBA SP, since it felt so clunky when playing GBA games on it.  The best game during its first few months of release was the Wario Ware title, which was only available in Japan for a while, IIRC.   I beat the hell out of it and then sold off my DS and games so I could import a PSP.  Ridge Racers > Everything in the DS launch line-up.

3DS has SSF4, Samurai Warriors, Ridge Racer, Pro-Evo, and Ghost Recon.  Nintendo's own offerings may be weak, but the third party line-up shits all over the DS.  It's no secret that I've never been fond of that system, though.  I pretty much just enjoyed the Ace Attorney games, Castlevania games, and a scant few others like Contra IV, Meteos, Tetris, and Planet Puzzle League.  Even with an Acekard I still never play the fucking thing.  I'm glad Nintendo has finally released its replacement.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: SantaC on March 26, 2011, 01:50:14 PM
Never liked any of the Super Monkey Ball releases after the original.  Still have it on GC...wish I still had the GBA port too.

SSF4, Pro-Evo and Ghost Recon are all fairly decent launch titles but none of them has the wide appeal of a SM64. 

The DS version of SM64 was gimped without an analog stick.

The DS had a shit-tastic launch.  I remember regretting that I sold off my GBA SP, since it felt so clunky when playing GBA games on it.  The best game during its first few months of release was the Wario Ware title, which was only available in Japan for a while, IIRC.   I beat the hell out of it and then sold off my DS and games so I could import a PSP.  Ridge Racers > Everything in the DS launch line-up.

3DS has SSF4, Samurai Warriors, Ridge Racer, Pro-Evo, and Ghost Recon.  Nintendo's own offerings may be weak, but the third party line-up shits all over the DS.  It's no secret that I've never been fond of that system, though.  I pretty much just enjoyed the Ace Attorney games, Castlevania games, and a scant few others like Contra IV, Meteos, Tetris, and Planet Puzzle League.  Even with an Acekard I still never play the fucking thing.  I'm glad Nintendo has finally released its replacement.

funny how gaf hates on IGA's castlevania iterations even though they're one of few games worth owning on the DS.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: magus on March 26, 2011, 02:03:16 PM
i had no problem playing mario 64 with the D-Pad,i don't get why people complain about that so much
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: SantaC on March 26, 2011, 02:08:06 PM
i had no problem playing mario 64 with the D-Pad,i don't get why people complain about that so much


agreed
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Himu on March 26, 2011, 02:11:10 PM
i played and beat the game with the thumb strap
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Raban on March 26, 2011, 02:47:15 PM
i had no problem playing mario 64 with the D-Pad,i don't get why people complain about that so much


This. I 100%'d the game and then kept playing for a couple weeks after. Damn, makes me wanna get a DS again.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 26, 2011, 05:56:28 PM
:bow DS :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Himu on March 26, 2011, 06:53:48 PM
did we ever get a feel the magic xx/xy sequel? i really liked that game.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 26, 2011, 07:15:02 PM
did we ever get a feel the magic xx/xy sequel? i really liked that game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feel_the_Magic:_XY/XX_2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Himu on March 26, 2011, 11:06:30 PM
anyone play it? does it evolve on what the original did? I really liked the original despite the flaws
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: cool breeze on March 27, 2011, 12:32:01 AM
Never liked any of the Super Monkey Ball releases after the original.  Still have it on GC...wish I still had the GBA port too.

SSF4, Pro-Evo and Ghost Recon are all fairly decent launch titles but none of them has the wide appeal of a SM64. 

The DS version of SM64 was gimped without an analog stick.

The DS had a shit-tastic launch.  I remember regretting that I sold off my GBA SP, since it felt so clunky when playing GBA games on it.  The best game during its first few months of release was the Wario Ware title, which was only available in Japan for a while, IIRC.   I beat the hell out of it and then sold off my DS and games so I could import a PSP.  Ridge Racers > Everything in the DS launch line-up.

3DS has SSF4, Samurai Warriors, Ridge Racer, Pro-Evo, and Ghost Recon.  Nintendo's own offerings may be weak, but the third party line-up shits all over the DS.  It's no secret that I've never been fond of that system, though.  I pretty much just enjoyed the Ace Attorney games, Castlevania games, and a scant few others like Contra IV, Meteos, Tetris, and Planet Puzzle League.  Even with an Acekard I still never play the fucking thing.  I'm glad Nintendo has finally released its replacement.

The thing about those games listed, except Ghost Recon, which looks cool, is they're all already available in better packages on other platforms.  For what a launch title should be, like something unique and new as a reason to buy the hardware, they're not so great.  I have a better version of SSF4 on the 360, Dynasty Warriors 7 comes out in a day, etc.  I guess it depends on how little you've experienced those games on other systems, and how much new hardware will increase your enjoyment of it.

Like, I'm more excited about Dead or Alive than Street Fighter because there hasn't been a new DoA since 2005 (or 2006? can't remember if it was a launch game).

Personally it doesn't bother me much because good games will come, and it's not like I don't have other systems to play games on.  I'm pretty much buying the 3DS for the hardware at this point and that's ok.  It is a better launch than the DS, though.  These may be rehashes, but many look very competent.  FWIW, I'm not expecting the PSP2 to have a great launch either.  The PSP was the exception to all this.


oh geez, it's after midnight so this thing is 'officially' released in North America.  I'll go tomorrow and pick it up with pilotwings.  Gonna eat some ex-lax and finish it in one sitting :hyper
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: naff on March 27, 2011, 12:49:45 AM
3DS games are retailing here in NZ @ $100 a pop :rofl It's valid to expect handheld games to be a little cheaper than regular console games right? Especially when they're shovelware like SMB.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Corporal on March 27, 2011, 01:58:10 AM
How swiftly does the damn thing sell?

I still see the major German retailers and amazon.de pushing a SMB bundle for 225€ or somesuch, which I thought was a strict preorder/launch-day dealio and not a permanent thing. Evidently 3DS is a slow seller. Fear my powers of dseduction. Nintendo is doomed.
anyone play it? does it evolve on what the original did? I really liked the original despite the flaws
Your girlfriend gets a love rival. Coincidentally, she has access to e.g. a huge robot, amongst other things.
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gxFD3ExnSY[/youtube]
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Presentation is just as zany and awesome, some minigames feel harder to perfect (I almost killed my touchscreen in one).

IMHO: If you liked the first one, you can download buy the second one without regret.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: SantaC on March 27, 2011, 05:24:35 AM
I hope the 3DS is a slow seller because then Nintendo might finally wake up and spend some $$$ on good software and not just ports and showelware.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: naff on March 27, 2011, 05:32:47 AM
I hope the 3DS is a slow seller because then Nintendo might finally wake up and spend some $$$ on good software and not just ports and showelware.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=showel

:lol Apt
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: SantaC on March 27, 2011, 07:27:31 AM
I hope the 3DS is a slow seller because then Nintendo might finally wake up and spend some $$$ on good software and not just ports and showelware.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=showel

:lol Apt

oops  :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Bebpo on March 27, 2011, 09:23:24 AM
Never liked any of the Super Monkey Ball releases after the original.  Still have it on GC...wish I still had the GBA port too.

SSF4, Pro-Evo and Ghost Recon are all fairly decent launch titles but none of them has the wide appeal of a SM64. 

The DS version of SM64 was gimped without an analog stick.

The DS had a shit-tastic launch.  I remember regretting that I sold off my GBA SP, since it felt so clunky when playing GBA games on it.  The best game during its first few months of release was the Wario Ware title, which was only available in Japan for a while, IIRC.   I beat the hell out of it and then sold off my DS and games so I could import a PSP.  Ridge Racers > Everything in the DS launch line-up.

3DS has SSF4, Samurai Warriors, Ridge Racer, Pro-Evo, and Ghost Recon.  Nintendo's own offerings may be weak, but the third party line-up shits all over the DS.  It's no secret that I've never been fond of that system, though.  I pretty much just enjoyed the Ace Attorney games, Castlevania games, and a scant few others like Contra IV, Meteos, Tetris, and Planet Puzzle League.  Even with an Acekard I still never play the fucking thing.  I'm glad Nintendo has finally released its replacement.

Eh, at the Japanese DS launch I had Feel the Magic, Warioware, Mario 64 and most of all it had NEW gameplay centered games.  Of course PSP lineup was better with Lumines, Ridge Racers, and Minna no Golf.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Third on March 27, 2011, 10:09:01 AM
Bought my sister a 3DS today. With no games, lol.
Don't know what game I should get for her. She didn't want Sims 3. But she's having fun with the build in applications.

As for me, I don't want one. Not impressed yet.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: magus on March 27, 2011, 10:10:19 AM
7 month after the DS release date,japanese player (and gaijin importer,who are all now dead thanks to nintendo progresive stance on regional lock) were playing this

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXzYTSQDtqg&playnext=1&list=PL7E1D9D513E689F7D[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5mQntEYIFo[/youtube]

7 month after the 3DS,you guys are going to play... a port of ocarina and a port of starfox and a port of metal gear 3,no gaijin allowed :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: bork on March 27, 2011, 10:30:31 AM
Gonna go pick up the 3DS at noon...hope it's not too much of a wait.

funny how gaf hates on IGA's castlevania iterations even though they're one of few games worth owning on the DS.

They do?  Although at the same time, people started getting tired of the Igvanias when they came out on the DS.  I still like AoS better than DoS.

i had no problem playing mario 64 with the D-Pad,i don't get why people complain about that so much

Probably because Mario 64 was a game designed around being played with an analog stick, and they decided to release it on a system that didn't have one.   :lol  I didn't like the thumbstrap controls.  But then again, I'm not a Mario 64 fan in the first place.  Give me the classic 2D Marios over that garbage any day.

DS line up is pretty awesome if you ask me - cupboard full of DS games can't be wrong!

But you have a cupboard full of games for every system!   :P

The thing about those games listed, except Ghost Recon, which looks cool, is they're all already available in better packages on other platforms.  For what a launch title should be, like something unique and new as a reason to buy the hardware, they're not so great.  I have a better version of SSF4 on the 360, Dynasty Warriors 7 comes out in a day, etc.  I guess it depends on how little you've experienced those games on other systems, and how much new hardware will increase your enjoyment of it.

Absolutely true, except that the main reason to get those games is to have them available on the go...or on the john, or wherever.  Also Samurai Warriors Chronicles may end up being the better game than SW3(Z), since it allows for four-man teams on the field and looks like it has an interactive story.  SSF4 also comes with the "DLC" outfits available...no extra money needed.  Although it missing the latest set of (actual) DLC outfits.  For me the big disappointment with SSF4 is that they didn't base it on Arcade Edition, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

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Like, I'm more excited about Dead or Alive than Street Fighter because there hasn't been a new DoA since 2005 (or 2006? can't remember if it was a launch game).

2005.  Not sure if I'd call this a "new" DOA though.  It appears to be DOA4 with the added boss characters from previous titles playable, and added stages/cut scenes from DOA2 and DOA3.  I am still all over it too, though, since it's going to have online play.

And while on the subject of fighters, if BlazBlue Continuum Shift II on PSP/3DS doesn't have online play DOA and SSF4, I'm going to pass on it.  No excuse not to have it now.

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Personally it doesn't bother me much because good games will come, and it's not like I don't have other systems to play games on.  I'm pretty much buying the 3DS for the hardware at this point and that's ok.  It is a better launch than the DS, though.  These may be rehashes, but many look very competent.  FWIW, I'm not expecting the PSP2 to have a great launch either.  The PSP was the exception to all this.

I don't see the point in buying a system if you don't care about any of the games on it at the time.

Eh, at the Japanese DS launch I had Feel the Magic, Warioware, Mario 64 and most of all it had NEW gameplay centered games.  Of course PSP lineup was better with Lumines, Ridge Racers, and Minna no Golf.

That wasn't anywhere near enough.  Like I said, Warioware was fun, but it was over too quickly and then I didn't care about the DS again.  The PSP shat all over it.  Even Vampire with its longer load times and Metal Gear Ac!d were cool.

7 month after the DS release date,japanese player (and gaijin importer,who are all now dead thanks to nintendo progresive stance on regional lock) were playing this

7 month after the 3DS,you guys are going to play... a port of ocarina and a port of starfox and a port of metal gear 3,no gaijin allowed :smug


It's not seven months for Zelda.  With E3 right around the corner, who knows what's coming.

BTW, I said that Castlevania DoS was the reason I re-purchased a DS in 2005.  But I bought it early, right when I got to Japan, because GAF was shitting itself over Ouendan and Jump Super Stars.  I thought both games SUCKED.  Jump was just dumb...with Ouendan it was a combination of my not feeling the controls and not caring for the music.  Meteos ended up being the game that made me feel like I didn't completely throw that money down the toilet.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: bork on March 27, 2011, 11:28:12 AM
So...wow.  SSF4 runs at 30 FPS online, regardless of whether or not 3D is turned off or not.

WTF Capcom? 

That's almost enough to make me think about forgetting about the 3DS right now.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Third on March 27, 2011, 11:37:10 AM
I think you have to turn on 60fps in the options menu. Not just by sliding down the 3D trigger.

- oh nevermind. you're talking about online mode
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: bork on March 27, 2011, 11:44:44 AM
There is talk that it happens when the other player doesn't have 60 FPS turned on.  I hope that is the case, but what this basically means is that online could feel pretty borked.  There are other saying that it's been fine online, but dropping the framerate by half (or more, some say 20-25FPS) is a BIG deal in a fighting game.

I also want to know why it seems that none of the so-called "game journalists" that reviewed the game picked up on this.   :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: cool breeze on March 27, 2011, 12:16:50 PM
so far the augmented reality stuff is really cool.  face raiders is a lot of fun and wish it handled position in the room too.

the 3D stuff is a bit underwhelming.  I mean, it looks cool when it works, but the area you need to be in to see is tiny and I never realized how much I play at off angles.

The circle pad feels a lot better than the PSP but I still feel like mine might be messed up.  It feels grainy when I move it.  But in general the system feels pretty solid and all the inputs feel nice compared to any of the old DS hardware.

and for some reason there is a music video preloaded...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: bork on March 27, 2011, 02:03:25 PM
Loading up SSF4 now...

it has noticeably long load times just getting to the title screen.  Uh...WTF?  Hope that was just a first-time data creation thing.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 27, 2011, 02:05:52 PM
I read that Pro Evo Soccer doesnt have online play so no thank you.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: bork on March 27, 2011, 02:11:50 PM
Load times in-game are pretty speedy.

Tried my first online match...ULTRA-LAGGY.  We got disconnected before it was over.  I had no problems doing moves though.

Match #2: Nice and smooth!  Noticeably going at 30 fps, but I was able to do everything I normally would.  OK, I can deal with this.   :)

Also:

The store I picked the system up at didn't have any midnight or AM openings.  They opened at noon.  It's in one of the large Atlanta malls and is only about a four-minute car-ride away, so I got there just a few minutes after they opened.

There were more people in the store when the original DS launched, and even that was small.  The "line" was about six people deep, and only three of us were there for the 3DS.  So I was able to get in and out of there within a couple of minutes.  One of the guys declined buying any software and announced somewhat loudly that Toys R' US had their 3DS game deal going on.

Here's everything I have for the system now:

(http://i.imgur.com/8X2Cvl.jpg)

Afterwards, we stopped by Costco and I found that they had plenty of systems and software available.  I had already pre-ordered and paid for two of the games from Gamestop already, but I wish I'd held out on buying Ghost Recon since it was $5 cheaper here.

(http://i.imgur.com/lXtaIl.jpg)

The system feels pretty nice and the shoulder buttons are much better than the previous DS models.  They changed the location of the stylus slot from the right side to the top left of the system, and at first I was trying to find it with no luck.   :lol  Messed around with the 3D camera a bit...shit quality.  My wife also said that it hurt her eyes right when she looked at the screen.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 27, 2011, 02:35:31 PM
I played Face Raider and it analyzed my face and said that I was a Male Child. Manbaby confirmed. :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 27, 2011, 02:51:03 PM
I just realized you can takes pictures off a computer screen and it will still work. I just fought Brain Pumper...I mean Green Man. :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 27, 2011, 03:25:41 PM
Lyte, isn't TRU running some buy 1 get 2nd 50% off deal for 3DS games?


I played Face Raider and it analyzed my face and said that I was a Male Child. Manbaby confirmed. :(

:rofl

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Himu on March 27, 2011, 03:29:54 PM
7 month after the DS release date,japanese player (and gaijin importer,who are all now dead thanks to nintendo progresive stance on regional lock) were playing this

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXzYTSQDtqg&playnext=1&list=PL7E1D9D513E689F7D[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5mQntEYIFo[/youtube]

7 month after the 3DS,you guys are going to play... a port of ocarina and a port of starfox and a port of metal gear 3,no gaijin allowed :smug


the system just came out. today. ???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: bork on March 27, 2011, 03:32:41 PM
Samurai Warriors Chronicles is pretty damn good!  I was wrong about the character-switching aspect; it's not like Warriors Orochi where you have a team of characters that you can change out on the fly.  Instead, this game is a bit more tactical with the switching aspect.  The characters you get to control are at different spots on the map, and you can switch between them to deal with events that pop up in areas closer to them.  In the story mode, you play as a pre-made male/female character that you control.  He/She interacts with the other characters in-game, so you get to see the storyline from your character's perspective, which basically just means having conversations with the various generals before missions start.  It also looks like you can equip two different weapons, although I'm not sure if you can switch between them in battle.  Controls are typical Warriors, although there doesn't seem to be a way to roll like SW3.  Instead the R button is mapped to a character's unique attribute/attack.  The game seems to be running at the same frame rate as SW3 on the Wii, but it works fine and seems smoother on the smaller screen.  This also means that the 3D effect has no effect on the frame rate, and it looks pretty nice.  Didn't bother my eyes at all.

Lyte, isn't TRU running some buy 1 get 2nd 50% off deal for 3DS games?

Something like that, yeah.  I forget what it is...didn't bother since I already got Ridge Racer from Amazon last week and traded in $110 worth of crap to Gamestop to cover the other tiles I bought.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: iconoclast on March 27, 2011, 03:51:11 PM
:bow Ouendan, one of the few classics of this gen. Too bad EBA had so many awful songs on it.

Will suck cocks for Ouendan 3DS.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 27, 2011, 04:01:29 PM
How is Ghost Recon?  It looks like one of those PSP games that I typically ignore.  However, the slim pickings mean that I'll have to give GR a good look. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: bork on March 27, 2011, 04:08:39 PM
Ridge Racer 3D: Yup, it's the same Ridge Racer that Namco has essentially been re-packaging for over six years now.  I think it does look a bit better than the PSP RRs, but not by too much.  The car design has changed to be more muscle car-like, but the mechanics are still the same, and it has a good sense of speed.  You can now use multiple nitrous at the same time, just like in RR6 and RR7.  Soundtrack seems pretty nice.  The in-car first-person view is not available.  WTF?  This is a RR staple and the only view that the original arcade version offered back in 1993.  It's weird not having it available.  The 3D effect in this game bothered my eyes a bit; had to turn it down for it to be tolerable.  First impression is that this is more of the same, but that just means it's a solid arcade racer.  You know exactly what to expect.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 27, 2011, 04:11:30 PM
I'll be getting a 3DS on Wednesday I think.  Trading in my DSi, Gameboy Micro, and a few games – should make my purchase to be only around 100 bucks.

Getting SSF4 and Pilotwings I think.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 27, 2011, 04:55:10 PM
Keep the DSi if you still wanna play old DS games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: magus on March 27, 2011, 05:05:54 PM
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the system just came out. today. ???

and? ???
we all know what are the future releases
if we are lucky maybe kid icarus will turn out good :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: cool breeze on March 27, 2011, 05:20:17 PM
Keep the DSi if you still wanna play old DS games.

semi-co-sign

DS games on the the 3DS look worse than I expected them too.  It's pretty blurry and butty, plus the DSi had larger screens.  If you don't care about image quality, the games play and perform like they did on the DS.  But yeah, the DSi is still the best way to play DS games. 


also, yeah, the AR stuff is really, really neat.  One of the games you unlock (stupid that you unlock mini-games, btw) is like a golf game where you physically move the system around a structure to aim the cue.  Another has you fishing on your desk with the DS as your fishing rod.  Even the simple shooting game requires you to move around to hit specific targets.

I don't know if you're supposed to play those in 3D but I had to turn it off because I was constantly moving the unit around.  Hopefully Pilotwings shows off the 3D more because just based on the various features in the menu, it's not doing much for me.  The 'sweet spot' is smaller than I thought and I didn't realize you had to hold it far away from your face.  The 3DS is telling me I've been incorrectly playing portable games all these years, so maybe that's a good thing.  I was holding older systems too close to my face and was getting face cancer or something.


And fuck the mii maker.  I did it three times and it makes a Mii version of Jason Schwartzman.  I'm getting a nosejob on wednesday.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 27, 2011, 06:20:07 PM
I really don't care about how DS games on the 3DS look, just as long as I can play them.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: bork on March 27, 2011, 06:25:40 PM
I just tried Miles Edgeworth on the 3DS.  It looked a little grainy, but completely fine.  Will be ditching my Japanese DSi next time I go to Japan.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 27, 2011, 06:35:14 PM
Besides, only a matter of time the Acekard is updated to work on the 3DS :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 27, 2011, 07:02:54 PM
man, rayman 3d has a TURRIBLE framerate
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: pilonv1 on March 27, 2011, 07:09:48 PM
Dreamcast > 3DS
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: iconoclast on March 27, 2011, 07:42:28 PM
Dreamcast > every nintendo system

edit: oh first post on a new page.... Ghost Recon looks pretty good I guess.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 27, 2011, 07:44:14 PM
man, rayman 3d has a TURRIBLE framerate

I almost bought Rayman 3D, but I decided not to.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I bought Steel Diver instead.  :derp
[close]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 27, 2011, 08:40:27 PM
orochi 2 psp looks better than samurai warriors, although i kinda dig sw chronicle's tactical character swap system
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: bork on March 27, 2011, 08:52:51 PM
orochi 2 psp looks better than samurai warriors, although i kinda dig sw chronicle's tactical character swap system

Nah, Samurai Warriors looks better, but there's definitely more going on in Orochi 2.  I'm just glad that Chronicles' quality is good.  It doesn't feel like a half-assed port and I'm glad they added to it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 27, 2011, 08:56:48 PM
30 fps + same shitty lod models as psp musou games + worse character draw distance + lower res = worse than orochi 2, senor. better presentation in sw chronicles, though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Diunx on March 27, 2011, 08:59:04 PM
Didn't you cancel your pre order Prole? :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 27, 2011, 09:04:39 PM
^owning a 3DS makes it easier to spread fud
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 27, 2011, 09:05:16 PM
i didn't cancel my daughter's :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 27, 2011, 09:11:59 PM
i didn't cancel my daughter's :teehee

Bbbut nintendo said no 3d for ages 6 and under  :wag
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 27, 2011, 09:59:05 PM
Nintendo was sneaky smart with the 3DS. The combination of StreetPass and the pedometer makes me want to have it with me at all times. I went out to Best Buy and Gamestop and just walked around this evening. Already a better exercise system than WiiFit. :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 27, 2011, 10:33:58 PM
How is the 3D, and does it actually enhance any of the shitty launch games?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 27, 2011, 10:42:04 PM
it's a novelty. if you're facing it at the right angle and distance, it looks pretty clean. thirty minutes later and it's off because the gimmick is over and now you're left playing psp c-list games
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 27, 2011, 10:44:35 PM
SSF4 is better than 99.9% of PSP games though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Diunx on March 27, 2011, 11:18:01 PM
SSF4 is better than 99.9% of PSP games though.

Street Fighter Alpha 3 >>>>>>> Street Fighter 4
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: bork on March 27, 2011, 11:29:11 PM
30 fps + same shitty lod models as psp musou games + worse character draw distance + lower res = worse than orochi 2, senor. better presentation in sw chronicles, though.

I stand by it looking better.  Not sure about the draw distance but I can believe it.  Still looks better overall though IMO. 

But DW7 this week so whatevs.

it's a novelty. if you're facing it at the right angle and distance, it looks pretty clean. thirty minutes later and it's off because the gimmick is over and now you're left playing psp c-list games

When I look at what I have, it's a Capcom fighter, Ridge Racer, a turn-based strategy game, and a Musou title.  Eerily similar to the PSP launch!   :lol 



SSF4 is better than 99.9% of PSP games though.

Street Fighter Alpha 3 >>>>>>> Street Fighter 4

No, sorry.  SSF4 is the better game.  And the 3DS version having online play automatically makes it the best portable fighting game ever made.   
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: cool breeze on March 27, 2011, 11:29:47 PM
The 3D effect in Pilotwings is pretty incredible at first, but when I start to play naturally (the right side is tilted back) it gets all screwy.  Maybe that's something that can be fixed in the the next revision.  And my eyes kinda hurt after playing a bit.  Maybe it's something you adjust to, I dunno, I'm not going to continue on the off chance that twenty-odd years of physical development are to be proven wrong by a children's play thing. 3D Slider: POWER DUNK.  OK.

anyway, Pilotwings is probably a pass.  It's the same character and charmless island from the wii games and it hides all the content through bullshit rules.  Like, free flight is limited to 2 minutes and they expect you to collect 75 items, meaning you need to start from the same point a dozen or so times to collect all 75 slowly, and there are two more charts under that 75 that I assume are for Evening and Night (unlocked those somewhere around the way.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: bork on March 27, 2011, 11:35:16 PM
It's probably a no-brainer that a 3DS "Lite" in a year or two will address all the 3D issues and have better battery life.  But will we care after the NGP is released?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: cool breeze on March 27, 2011, 11:45:48 PM
PSP2 won't have classics like Animal Crossing and a Hey You Pikachu port, so...

Really if they get the 3D working right, I'd be excited.  Battery life isn't really an issue for me.

I will say that for a first release product, this thing is very solid.  The original GBA and DS were gnarly but this is very nice.  It's a lot of small things, like how nice all the buttons (and d-pad) feel.  The circle pad is great and is way better than any of the PSP ones.  The touch screen feels more solid and less awkward to use my thumb on.  It has a nice weight to it.  There is some awkward placement of inputs and weird design quirks, but yeah, it's nice for Nintendo. 


edit: a message popped up in Pilotwings saying I unlocked a new collectible item (balloons)  :S

did Rare make this game?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: cool breeze on March 28, 2011, 12:55:48 AM
I really want to import it.  Chances are it won't be brought over.

:fbm

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Purple Filth on March 28, 2011, 01:48:49 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=425609

how long this has been available again?  :-\
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: pilonv1 on March 28, 2011, 04:15:29 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=425609

how long this has been available again?  :-\

please understand
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on March 28, 2011, 04:43:01 AM
EG posted this


(http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/1/3/4/3/6/1/9/ss_preview_3dsblackscreen.jpg.jpg)

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-28-nintendo-3ds-black-screen-error-revealed (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-28-nintendo-3ds-black-screen-error-revealed)

Quote
Posters on various forums have found success following the on screen instructions and rebooting the system. Others have solved the issue by reformatting their SD cards.

Comment section has few people claiming the same.

Could be a firmware issue.
Welcome to next-gen,Nintendo.




Nintendo responds

Quote
"If anyone is experiencing any problems with their Nintendo 3DS console, we recommend that in the first instance they download and install the latest system update, now available online," said a representative. "If the problems still persist we recommend they contact their local Nintendo Customer Service centre to investigate the problem further."
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on March 28, 2011, 05:37:27 AM
nintendo bricking your console even before you can play pirate stuff on it

:bow nintendo
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 28, 2011, 07:25:23 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=425609

how long this has been available again?  :-\

This Fernando dude used to be the top poster in Joystiq's comment section, what did you expect :lol

Quote
So... I want this thread to be read by all the media. We need all the blogs and sites to see this message. We need Joystiq, Kotaku, Go Nintendo, IGN, Giant Bomb, Destructoid, 1-UP, Games Radar, etc... we need to raise our voice together and make Nintendo listen to us.
                                                                          /
(http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/files/images/2008-04-dr-martin-luther-king-jr.jpg)

What a fucking dweeb!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on March 28, 2011, 07:45:29 AM
ahahahahahahahahahah :lol

but ehy i made an obama joke about that thread in another thread,you can't be here stealing my thunder :maf

uuuuuuuuhhhhhhh anyway,i'm the only one puzzled by people talking about the AWESOME streetpass functionality? that thing was already all over older ds games and was praticaly unusable unless you lived in some big city sooooooo..... ???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 28, 2011, 11:21:49 AM
Nintendo still doesn't get it when it comes to online functionality.  Yay, FINALLY one friend code for every game.  Great.  Except that it means jack shit when you can't contact someone on your friends or invite to play a game with you.  It's distinguished mentally-challenged.

But I was able to find Enk in SSF4 and play some matches with him, which already makes SSF4 3D's online system 1000 times better than TvC's!   :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 28, 2011, 11:41:09 AM

I stand by it looking better.  Not sure about the draw distance but I can believe it.  Still looks better overall though IMO.    

I would say that some Japanese graffiti artist disagrees with you

(http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2011/03/xlarge_koeifront.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 28, 2011, 11:53:03 AM
Nintendo still doesn't get it when it comes to online functionality.  Yay, FINALLY one friend code for every game.  Great.  Except that it means jack shit when you can't contact someone on your friends or invite to play a game with you.  It's distinguished mentally-challenged.

Any complaints pertaining to the 3DS OS these days will be met with: Wait for May's Update™ (they're slowly claiming the exclusivity of the waiting meme since the year of the PS3 has yet again been delayed) since Iwata dropped some hints about some of those features during one of his laughs.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread(first GR:Shadow Wars review)
Post by: bork on March 28, 2011, 12:01:08 PM

I stand by it looking better.  Not sure about the draw distance but I can believe it.  Still looks better overall though IMO.    

I would say that some Japanese graffiti artist disagrees with you

(http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2011/03/xlarge_koeifront.jpg)

 :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 28, 2011, 12:07:23 PM
What does it say?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 28, 2011, 12:09:17 PM
"SHIT GAME"
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on March 28, 2011, 12:14:37 PM
"SHIT GAME"

gee japanese fanboy are harsh :S
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Brehvolution on March 28, 2011, 01:21:17 PM
A guy from work brought his 3ds in and I'm a little impressed with the 3d. I can see where prolonged exposure could get uncomfortable though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 28, 2011, 01:24:10 PM
"SHIT GAME"

gee japanese fanboy are harsh :S

These "Japanese fanboys" sound suspiciously like demi.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: demi on March 28, 2011, 01:26:09 PM
The spirit of Japan without the embarassing underage anime

<3 demi
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 28, 2011, 01:31:22 PM
mine shipped from amazon and they gave me $25 credit towards a 3ds game so I might as well buy one for $15.

What is the 3ds game to get if you just want to show the system to non-gamer people to show off the 3d effect?  Somehow I don't think it's musou.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: demi on March 28, 2011, 01:31:50 PM
GHOST RECONNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Honestly: The AR Card mini-games
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: originalz on March 28, 2011, 01:46:56 PM
Heh, you got the same games that I did, Lyte!  I haven't really had much time to play with the 3DS yet, just messed around with Super Street Fighter 4 3D Edition.  Having trouble doing certain moves, and I don't want to gunk up my touch screen by doing the combinations on the bottom.  Still a solid package overall.  What's with having to enable 60FPS on the menu tho?  That's kind of an odd thing, why isn't it on by default?  I would have never known about that if I didn't read it here.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: SantaC on March 28, 2011, 01:53:39 PM
so what's on the horizon in terms of NA releases? Paper Mario could the first 3DS game I remotely would be interested in.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Trent Dole on March 28, 2011, 02:06:21 PM
(http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/1/3/4/3/6/1/9/ss_preview_3dsblackscreen.jpg.jpg)
 (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-28-nintendo-3ds-black-screen-error-revealed)
Gotta love launch hardware.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 28, 2011, 02:10:18 PM
lol Amazon send me a 3DS (I bought mine from Gamestop yesterday) even though I canceled my order a week ago.  I should probably send it back.

mine shipped from amazon and they gave me $25 credit towards a 3ds game so I might as well buy one for $15.

What is the 3ds game to get if you just want to show the system to non-gamer people to show off the 3d effect?  Somehow I don't think it's musou.

I got that $25 credit thing too (they'll probably revoke it once I return the system) and it says it's good until 6/30/2011.  I wonder if more games will be available, like DoA in May or Zelda in June.

as for best game to show off to non-game people, um, the AR-cards and stuff are really cool but they don't show off the 3D effect well.  I messed around with all that stuff before I played Pilotwings and that was the first time I really noticed the 3D.

The AR-card stuff feels off because not everything is 3D, if that makes sense.  The hideously low resolution images from the camera form the backdrop for these polygons on screen and they 'stick out' even when the slider is off.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: demi on March 28, 2011, 02:15:29 PM
Did they charge you for it?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 28, 2011, 02:20:14 PM
What is the 3ds game to get if you just want to show the system to non-gamer people to show off the 3d effect?  Somehow I don't think it's musou.

It's Musou, LOL.

Just show them the built-in Face Raiders game and let them mess with the AR cards.  The people I showed the 3DS to yesterday were more impressed with that than anything else.   :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 28, 2011, 02:23:20 PM
Does the system come with AR cards?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 28, 2011, 02:24:24 PM
Does the system come with AR cards?

Yup.  One of them is a mini-game.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on March 28, 2011, 02:26:27 PM
you can print them anyway bebpo
in fact if you print a huge card it will shows you a huge model

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1wU7iBHXz0[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 28, 2011, 02:29:45 PM
Did they charge you for it?

yeah.  I'd just keep it or return it at gamestop or something if they didn't.

Does the system come with AR cards?

it comes with a few of them.  A bunch are just of Nintendo characters that you can pose and move around.

The one important one is has a few mini-games where you interact with 3D objects as if they were  really there (like moving the 3DS around a 3D dragon to shoot its weak spots.)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 28, 2011, 02:46:04 PM
i am trading in half my ps3 library for a 3ds because i want to play pro evo.


i now own more 360 games then ps3 gmaes  :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 28, 2011, 02:57:17 PM
When are they going to make this thing region free
Gundam and Blazblue II are more interesting than the entire US lineup :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 28, 2011, 09:30:03 PM
Someone brought theirs to work. Played for 5 minutes and was totally apathetic. Zzz
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on March 28, 2011, 09:51:37 PM
When are they going to make this thing region free
Gundam and Blazblue II are more interesting than the entire US lineup :(

Looks like i have to buy a US versions 3ds now.  If they make it region free i would be so happy.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2011, 10:20:40 PM
Managed to play with someone's at work. The 3d is really really impressive.

Makes me want one bad. If only for a new ds.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 28, 2011, 10:22:57 PM
Someone brought theirs to work. Played for 5 minutes and was totally apathetic. Zzz

I played Super Street Fighter 4 on the toilet for 5 minutes and got two perfects against some guy. Best system ever.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 28, 2011, 11:25:40 PM
I guess I'll be getting Street Fighter IV and Pilotwings.  Seems to be the most well-rounded two games for the system so far.  I'd buy Ghost Recon but I don't know if I'd like it or not.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 29, 2011, 12:01:06 AM
I was wrong; Ridge Racer DOES have the first person view, and it makes the 3D effect work much better, IMO.  Just played the shit out of it.

Someone brought theirs to work. Played for 5 minutes and was totally apathetic. Zzz

I played Super Street Fighter 4 on the toilet for 5 minutes and got two perfects against some guy. Best system ever.

Me too!   :lol  :bow SSF4 on the john :bow2

I had a 35 straight win streak going with Chun, and decided to just see what playing against someone using lite mode would be like...got a Guile spammer who got me in the end because he could do Guile's Ultra on the fly every time.   :lol ::)

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Diunx on March 29, 2011, 12:35:47 AM
How many 3d cock pics have you guys taken so far?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on March 29, 2011, 12:42:55 AM
When are they going to make this thing region free
Gundam and Blazblue II are more interesting than the entire US lineup :(

as soon as it's hacked. So in a week or two.

I'd like a 3DS once this BULLSHIT region locking is bypassable
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on March 29, 2011, 01:11:33 AM
Me too!   :lol  :bow SSF4 on the john :bow2

I had a 35 straight win streak going with Chun, and decided to just see what playing against someone using lite mode would be like...got a Guile spammer who got me in the end because he could do Guile's Ultra on the fly every time.   :lol ::)



I think there needs to be like a half a second pause for lite players.  I think it is unfair otherwise to normal players.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: SantaC on March 29, 2011, 06:53:34 AM
so when is the inevitable 3DS lite coming out?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Raban on March 29, 2011, 09:42:47 AM
Give it a year.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2011, 12:08:30 PM
I got my $25 credit and I'm ordering my first 3DS game now.  I'm on the fence between Pilotwings and Ridge Racers.  I would get Ghost Recon but umm, I'm 31 hours into Tactics Ogre and 25 hours in Disgaea 4; the last thing I want to play is another srpg.  Maybe in a year when it's $5.  Would get musou but I don't have the time for another 50 hour musou game.  Just want a title to pick up and play for 20 mins and go "hey this is 3d effect".

I never played the pilotwings mode in Wii Sports Resort because I never played Wii Sports Resort.  I really loved Pilotwings on SNES.  But I also kind of enjoy Ridge Racer although I hate the handling/nitro system in the PSP/PS3/X360 games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 29, 2011, 12:39:38 PM
I got my $25 credit and I'm ordering my first 3DS game now.  I'm on the fence between Pilotwings and Ridge Racers.  I would get Ghost Recon but umm, I'm 31 hours into Tactics Ogre and 25 hours in Disgaea 4; the last thing I want to play is another srpg.  Maybe in a year when it's $5.  Would get musou but I don't have the time for another 50 hour musou game.  Just want a title to pick up and play for 20 mins and go "hey this is 3d effect".

I never played the pilotwings mode in Wii Sports Resort because I never played Wii Sports Resort.  I really loved Pilotwings on SNES.  But I also kind of enjoy Ridge Racer although I hate the handling/nitro system in the PSP/PS3/X360 games.

Get Ridge Racer.  And get Street Fighter.  :P
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2011, 12:45:14 PM
I've probably put less than 3 hours total into ssfiv since it launched. Capcom fighting games aren't really for me anymore :p
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 29, 2011, 12:49:20 PM
I've probably put less than 3 hours total into ssfiv since it launched. Capcom fighting games aren't really for me anymore :p

Now's a good time to start!  I'd take this over BlazBlue CSII, especially since it looks like BB isn't going to have online play on the portables.   :-\
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on March 29, 2011, 12:50:01 PM
let me guess bebpo,you got an american 3DS and now you can't get layton?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 29, 2011, 12:56:01 PM
I don't blame Bebpo for not importing...$500 for a Japanese 3DS is insane!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2011, 01:10:36 PM
I don't even think the system is worth $250. There's no way I'd buy an import one.

Will probably get ridge. Might just get both ridge and pilotwings.  Once they hack it, I'll import Layton & Gundam.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: demi on March 29, 2011, 01:12:05 PM
They hardly hacked the DSi... 3DS is gonna be a whole new thing. I wouldnt even bet on it happening this year.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 29, 2011, 01:29:02 PM
I don't even think the system is worth $250. There's no way I'd buy an import one.

Will probably get ridge. Might just get both ridge and pilotwings.  Once they hack it, I'll import Layton & Gundam.

So why did you buy one now?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: originalz on March 29, 2011, 02:03:02 PM
Samurai Warriors is pretty good!  I don't know about whether or not the draw distance is slightly less than the PSP game or whatever, but it plays really solid and looks fine.  The character switching is handled pretty well, and the AI is smart enough to go to points of interest on their own so if you need to be at an objective near them, they'll already be on their way by the time you're ready to switch out.  The 3D effect is pretty well-done, I really like how they handle it during story sequences, almost made me think my screens were dirty.  Can't go wrong with choosing this as a launch title.

I'm going to assume that the parts where you choose what to say only impacts the friendship stuff?  It won't branch the storyline and have you go on different missions?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2011, 02:24:41 PM
I don't even think the system is worth $250. There's no way I'd buy an import one.

Will probably get ridge. Might just get both ridge and pilotwings.  Once they hack it, I'll import Layton & Gundam.

So why did you buy one now?

Because I feel compelled to own every gaming system so that I can play any game that looks neat without worrying about if I own the right system.

Although, is 3DS in high demand like the Wii?  If I can get $500 for mine, for me it's probably worth flipping and buying an import 3DS instead.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 29, 2011, 02:52:49 PM
I don't even think the system is worth $250. There's no way I'd buy an import one.

Will probably get ridge. Might just get both ridge and pilotwings.  Once they hack it, I'll import Layton & Gundam.

So why did you buy one now?

Because I feel compelled to own every gaming system so that I can play any game that looks neat without worrying about if I own the right system.

Although, is 3DS in high demand like the Wii?  If I can get $500 for mine, for me it's probably worth flipping and buying an import 3DS instead.

I have no idea.  I saw plenty of them available when I bought in on Sunday, though.  I'd be surprised if you could get $500 for it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: demi on March 29, 2011, 02:56:03 PM
3DS is not in high demand right now.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: SantaC on March 29, 2011, 03:08:57 PM
atleast capcom is showing what the 3DS is capable of. Nice graphics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCGdfmmpCDk&feature=player_embedded.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2011, 05:14:46 PM
Hey is samurai warriors JP voice with subs?
[youtube=560,345]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz0XF0E3Q-o[/youtube]

This trailer makes it seem like it is. 

If there's no hideous DW dub voices, the weaboo musou fan in me will buy it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2011, 05:41:04 PM
Alright, well I'm officially a launch day sucker.  Bought Super Street Fighter IV, Samurai Warriors and Pilotwings.  With the various credits amazon is running it was about $84 for all three shipped.  Ridge was sold out.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 29, 2011, 05:52:12 PM
atleast capcom is showing what the 3DS is capable of. Nice graphics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCGdfmmpCDk&feature=player_embedded.

fffuuuuuuu that looks great
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2011, 06:21:15 PM
Hmm, I messed around with my system a bit.  The d-pad is horrid and maybe the worst I've ever used.  I hope I won't have to use it for much.  The analog is alright, I could see how it'd be better than the PSP one.  The interface is basically the Wii and the 3d camera is cool but I wish it had a higher megapixel camera so you could get non-shitty low-res compression 3d pics. 

The one thing I'm pretty curious about when I get some games is the sound quality.  PSP sound with headphones = cd/dvd quality.  Pretty much perfect.  DS sound with headphones = lq noisy shit.  Would be nice if they finally entered the 20 first century with their sound chips, but will hear for myself.

The 3d in the AR games/face raiders is neat.  It seems reaaaaaally sensitive.  Like in face raiders everytime I turn the DS I'd see double images and it'd look out of focus.  It seems like when you play games in 3d you want to have the system set in one place the whole time.

I honestly have no idea how I'm going to play street fighter with these controls, but I guess I'll get used to it. 

Also I didn't realize the blue was the girls color.  It looked less like fingernail polish in the pictures!!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 29, 2011, 07:05:57 PM
If you're even going to attempt to play SSF4 with analog, make sure to recalibrate the analog pad first in the 3DS settings.

I tried headphones with SSF4, and the volume seemed low.  It was much better with Ridge Racer.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Enl on March 29, 2011, 07:07:31 PM
I thought the dpad was ok. The clickiness of it helps a lot. I've actually been able to use it pretty effectively in Street Fighter so far. I do wish it was a tad bigger. I could barely use the slider pad for anything other than 360 moves. Now the sharp nubs at the bottom of the system has been a pain in my ass. I may need to file those down at some point.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2011, 07:13:02 PM
When a person like me who is small and has small hands even thinks the d-pad is too tiny...it's too tiny ^^;  Just seems really fragile and barely elevated off the surface.  Also not used to it being in such a low position on a handheld, so that's part of it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2011, 07:50:49 PM
The 3d screen burns my eyes and causes pain :\  After only like 5-15 mins my eyes hurt in the same way as if I'm staring at a computer monitor reading text for hours in the dark.

I wonder if this is going to actually fuck up people's eyesight. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 29, 2011, 08:16:24 PM
Yes, that is the exact feeling I felt when I used to the 3D for an extended time.  What usually fatigues my eyes that little sleep and a long day of work, reading and writer,  happened in maybe an hour or less of playing with the 3D on.  As cool as the 3D effect is, the slider is probably going to remain off 95% of the time.

I don't get the beef with the dpad.  It's better than any DS dpad and only the location is awkward for me.  I don't mind a small dpad if it has a nice roll and height (why I really like the GB Micro one).

And Resident Evil Mercenaries looks great and definitely on another level than what you see on the PSP.  But it's mostly the sheen and added visual effects that make it look nice, so much the models or anything, which do seem comparable with the PSP.  And I don't know if the laser sight is solid as a design choice or because the 3DS has trouble with transparency.  In some pictures of Zelda 3DS, the water looks like solid paint.

They've also announced that RE Mercs comes with a demo of RE Revelations.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 29, 2011, 08:34:58 PM
cum.  Capcom is really raping 3DS development.

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with ports.  but still, sexy ports
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Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 29, 2011, 08:39:12 PM
Well, I certainly didn't buy the 3DS for original games! Bring on more hot, sexy N64 ports with PSP graphics. :drool
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 29, 2011, 09:50:26 PM
Pilotwings N64 >>>>>>>> Pilotwings 3DS

What a disgrace  :yuck

Bring back Paradigm!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2011, 09:52:11 PM
What I've been doing with my no games 3ds

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/zelda.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 29, 2011, 09:54:07 PM
Wow

That camera really puts my 2001 Toshiba cell phone camera to shame
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on March 29, 2011, 09:58:34 PM
I know it's Nintendo, but WOW.

Cannot believe how poor the image quality is from that camera. It's 2011 for fucks sake
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2011, 10:08:09 PM
To be fair, my iphone 3G camera was just as shit.  Apparently unless you are a camera manufacturer you can't make a camera :\

Well, not if you won't spend over $100 on parts!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 29, 2011, 10:13:09 PM
think though, if it was a 3 megapixel camera, the system would be like $349 :-/

meh, I don't take pics with videogame systems so fuck it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 29, 2011, 10:21:49 PM
err, really?  The same quality camera as an iPhone 3GS?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 29, 2011, 10:24:20 PM
yeah, Pilotwings 3DS is a slummy, cheap game that doesn't capture what made me like Pilotwings 64.  It's short on content and what's there is boring and hidden.  It's like if you were paid in pennies, except you simply handed the pennies, they were spread out randomly in a giant sandbox.  And you have to spend money to enter that sandbox to find the pennies.  And when you finally collect them all, you realize you aren't in America and the pennies are worthless.  And then he spreads nickels, but only a portion can be collected during specific times.

Someone should just make a sequel to Sky Odyssey.


and ffs the camera isn't meant to take good pictures; it's meant to take fun pictures.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: originalz on March 29, 2011, 10:28:19 PM
The low MP of the camera really is insane, especially since the DSi also was so low, guess people were satisfied enough by it.  Hopefully they'll up it for the next revision.

No problems with playing games in 3D with my eyes, I guess it affects people differently.

I've noticed that my hands start to feel numb after a lot of playing though, I don't think the button layout is that comfortable.  Seems to happen whether I use the dpad or nub.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 29, 2011, 10:34:27 PM
The low MP of the camera really is insane, especially since the DSi also was so low, guess people were satisfied enough by it.  Hopefully they'll up it for the next revision.

No problems with playing games in 3D with my eyes, I guess it affects people differently.

I've noticed that my hands start to feel numb after a lot of playing though, I don't think the button layout is that comfortable.  Seems to happen whether I use the dpad or nub.

I've found that when playing Street Fighter, my hands hurt a LOT less without my index fingers resting on the should buttons. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on March 29, 2011, 10:39:37 PM

and ffs the camera isn't meant to take good pictures; it's meant to take fun pictures.

ugh, cant believe youre using that classic Nintard spin. "It doesnt matter that theyre using crummy 10 year old tech, it's FUN"
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 29, 2011, 10:44:57 PM

and ffs the camera isn't meant to take good pictures; it's meant to take fun pictures.

ugh, cant believe youre using that classic Nintard spin. "It doesnt matter that theyre using crummy 10 year old tech, it's FUN"

you don't get it

I went to my sister's wedding last month and only took pictures using my DSi.  While you can't recognize anyone in the pictures, there are hilarious mirror images and we were able to tell how compatible she was with her husband lol it was so fun wwwwww.  It was so much fun we even hooked it up to the sound system and blasted wedding tunes as if birds were singing them XD

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 29, 2011, 10:45:24 PM

and ffs the camera isn't meant to take good pictures; it's meant to take fun pictures.

ugh, cant believe youre using that classic Nintard spin. "It doesnt matter that theyre using crummy 10 year old tech, it's FUN"

The image quality may only be 0.3 MP, but the whimsy quality is 300 MP.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 30, 2011, 12:03:06 AM
with low-res cameras the zits all blend together leaving a pleasing glow on the cheeks of the ninthing's self portrait

saw this thing today, someone at the park had one and let me check it out for a couple of minutes

they had that soccer game, looked really cool for about ten seconds until i shifted the unit two inches and the players on the field doubled

my reaction was "wow, they really didn't think this whole 3D handheld concept through, did they?"
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 30, 2011, 12:05:30 AM
yeah, you must be very very still to not lose the 3d effect.  Tbh, I would rather have had the 3ds be 3d w/glasses like the theaters and a wide range. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 30, 2011, 12:09:23 AM
also, i recently purchased a $30 cell phone because i have to have one now (hate, hate, hate, fucking despise cell phones), and it has a 2 megapixel camera on it

face it, nintendo are just cheap fucks, if they didn't have mario and zelda games they might as well be called emerson or audiovox
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 30, 2011, 12:16:25 AM
or microsoft
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 30, 2011, 12:21:22 AM
sick burn, dude
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on March 30, 2011, 12:36:25 AM
I dont get the big deal, the 3ds camera is for the 3ds and not pc's.  I would never use it anyway *shrugs*.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 30, 2011, 12:39:06 AM
but like dude, everyone takes pictures these days, don't you know

don't you know
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 30, 2011, 12:42:45 AM
I dont get the big deal, the 3ds camera is for the 3ds and not pc's.  I would never use it anyway *shrugs*.

They look just as bad on the 3ds though  ???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on March 30, 2011, 01:12:46 AM
The 3d screen burns my eyes and causes pain :\  After only like 5-15 mins my eyes hurt in the same way as if I'm staring at a computer monitor reading text for hours in the dark.

I wonder if this is going to actually fuck up people's eyesight. 

Nintendo has a solution

http://www.1up.com/news/3ds-giving-headaches-what-nintendo-says

Quote
Judging by many of the comments made on Twitter, it seems clear that the 3D effect in Nintendo's new 3DS has caused more than a handful of headaches. Nintendo has responded, claiming that a short break is usually more than enough to alleviate any such symptoms.
Responding to a MaxConsole story which compiled complaints made on Twitter about eye strain or headaches caused by the 3DS, Nintendo U.K.'s Robert Saunders stated, "We have shown Nintendo 3DS at multiple events around the world to literally hundreds of thousands of people and have received very few negative comments. As with anything that requires focus, from reading to staring at a computer screen, taking breaks frequent breaks is always recommended.

"When viewing any kind of 3D images (TV, movies etc.), some people might experience minor discomfort. The effects are short term and have no lasting effect, in fact most players can continue after taking a short break. The Nintendo 3D was designed with a 3D depth slider that lets users adjust the 3D effect to a level that suits them for optimum enjoyment."

Just turn off the main feature of your $250 device.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on March 30, 2011, 01:23:05 AM
They look just as bad on the 3ds though  ???

Would it looks any better on the 3ds with a higher quality camera?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 30, 2011, 01:28:00 AM
The 3d screen burns my eyes and causes pain :\  After only like 5-15 mins my eyes hurt in the same way as if I'm staring at a computer monitor reading text for hours in the dark.

I wonder if this is going to actually fuck up people's eyesight. 

Nintendo has a solution

http://www.1up.com/news/3ds-giving-headaches-what-nintendo-says

Quote
Judging by many of the comments made on Twitter, it seems clear that the 3D effect in Nintendo's new 3DS has caused more than a handful of headaches. Nintendo has responded, claiming that a short break is usually more than enough to alleviate any such symptoms.
Responding to a MaxConsole story which compiled complaints made on Twitter about eye strain or headaches caused by the 3DS, Nintendo U.K.'s Robert Saunders stated, "We have shown Nintendo 3DS at multiple events around the world to literally hundreds of thousands of people and have received very few negative comments. As with anything that requires focus, from reading to staring at a computer screen, taking breaks frequent breaks is always recommended.

"When viewing any kind of 3D images (TV, movies etc.), some people might experience minor discomfort. The effects are short term and have no lasting effect, in fact most players can continue after taking a short break. The Nintendo 3D was designed with a 3D depth slider that lets users adjust the 3D effect to a level that suits them for optimum enjoyment."

Just turn off the main feature of your $250 device.

Christ, way to take their statement and run away with it for your own agenda.  They didn't say turn it off at all.  The included a slider for people to reach a COMFORTABLE 3d depth that wouldn't hurt their eyes.  Christ, the lengths you people go to hate on ANYTHING.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 30, 2011, 01:28:41 AM
What a shit product. When Sony followed up on their success we got the ps2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: SantaC on March 30, 2011, 01:30:44 AM
who takes pictures with a handheld system?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on March 30, 2011, 01:43:40 AM
What a shit product. When Sony followed up on their success we got the ps2

And then the followed their success with the ps3.  :p
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Diunx on March 30, 2011, 01:47:09 AM
Ps3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3ds

I just read on gaf that you have to take the sd card out of the 3ds and connect it to a pc to transfer data? is this true? :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 30, 2011, 01:48:05 AM
What a shit product. When Sony followed up on their success we got the ps2

And then the followed their success with the ps3.  :p

Pretty good hardware all told
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on March 30, 2011, 03:36:25 AM
Pretty good hardware all told

No.  Just.  NO.  There is a reason why they are 3rd place world wide.  It is becuase they tried to shoehorn blueray into the system.  If they didnt we would have a more powerful system than the 360.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on March 30, 2011, 03:38:20 AM
The 3d screen burns my eyes and causes pain :\  After only like 5-15 mins my eyes hurt in the same way as if I'm staring at a computer monitor reading text for hours in the dark.

I wonder if this is going to actually fuck up people's eyesight. 

Nintendo has a solution

http://www.1up.com/news/3ds-giving-headaches-what-nintendo-says

Quote
Judging by many of the comments made on Twitter, it seems clear that the 3D effect in Nintendo's new 3DS has caused more than a handful of headaches. Nintendo has responded, claiming that a short break is usually more than enough to alleviate any such symptoms.
Responding to a MaxConsole story which compiled complaints made on Twitter about eye strain or headaches caused by the 3DS, Nintendo U.K.'s Robert Saunders stated, "We have shown Nintendo 3DS at multiple events around the world to literally hundreds of thousands of people and have received very few negative comments. As with anything that requires focus, from reading to staring at a computer screen, taking breaks frequent breaks is always recommended.

"When viewing any kind of 3D images (TV, movies etc.), some people might experience minor discomfort. The effects are short term and have no lasting effect, in fact most players can continue after taking a short break. The Nintendo 3D was designed with a 3D depth slider that lets users adjust the 3D effect to a level that suits them for optimum enjoyment."

Just turn off the main feature of your $250 device.

Christ, way to take their statement and run away with it for your own agenda.  They didn't say turn it off at all.  The included a slider for people to reach a COMFORTABLE 3d depth that wouldn't hurt their eyes.  Christ, the lengths you people go to hate on ANYTHING.

Being positive about everything isn't nearly as much fun
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 30, 2011, 07:19:43 AM
think though, if it was a 3 megapixel camera, the system would be like $349 :-/

err, really?  The same quality camera as an iPhone 3GS?

They literally cost next to nothing these days.

Christ, way to take their statement and run away with it for your own agenda.  They didn't say turn it off at all.  The included a slider for people to reach a COMFORTABLE 3d depth that wouldn't hurt their eyes.  Christ, the lengths you people go to hate on ANYTHING.

One more knee-jerk reaction to a half-serious post, and I'm banning you.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 30, 2011, 08:06:21 AM
Pretty good hardware all told

No.  Just.  NO.  There is a reason why they are 3rd place world wide.  It is becuase they tried to shoehorn blueray into the system.  If they didnt we would have a more powerful system than the 360.

3ds has the same budget gpu design ethos as ps3, and then everything else sucks on it too.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on March 30, 2011, 08:25:03 AM
3DS has 128MB RAM(fcram).


http://www.ifixit.com/blog/blog/2011/03/28/nintendo-3ds-has-128mb-ram/ (http://www.ifixit.com/blog/blog/2011/03/28/nintendo-3ds-has-128mb-ram/)

Nice.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Brehvolution on March 30, 2011, 09:20:23 AM
128MB wow.

Brings back memories of Windows 98.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 30, 2011, 09:23:24 AM
but like dude, everyone takes pictures these days, don't you know

don't you know

I'll actually give a somewhat serious response: the 3DS uses the camera for augmented reality games.  The shame isn't that you can't take quality pictures.  When you play Face Raiders or with the AR cards, there is a stunning disconnect between the 3DS visuals and real life background.  Whether that is an issue depends on how the augmented reality stuff is used in the future.  I hope they do because that has been the coolest unique thing about the system.

Also, people were praising Nintendo for releasing an affordable 3D camera back when it was revealed, as if it would be a bullet point.  I guess that's a valid point but there are cellphones with 3D screens.  I guess affordable is the keyword.

As for using the 3D slider to find a comfortable spot, I don't think one exists.  The slider just changes the distance between the two images increasing the depth; whether it's 1 or 100%, you're still looking at two images with each eye.  The effect and discomfort simply increases as you increase the depth.  I don't know about others, but I can see the 3D effect at 100% and it's very pronounced and cool.  But it's taxing and I had to turn it down, and then eventually off if I was playing for an extended period of time (less than an hour).  Ideally it would look like it does at 100% without eye strain, and as it is, I don't think I can play a full game like Zelda OoT with this.  Most likely I'll turn in on in specific scenes when it might be useful, like playing energy ball tennis.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 30, 2011, 09:34:12 AM
128MB wow.

Brings back memories of Windows 98.

Christ, way to take their statement and run away with it for your own agenda. Christ, the lengths you people go to hate on ANYTHING.

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Christ!
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Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on March 30, 2011, 11:46:01 AM
Japan MC

Quote
| PSP | 51.095
| 3DS | 50.710

Game over Nintendo,take your reptilian age handheld and leave

PSP :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: originalz on March 30, 2011, 12:38:01 PM
128MB of RAM is actually pretty damn good for a portable system at this point in time.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 30, 2011, 01:12:39 PM
but like dude, everyone takes pictures these days, don't you know

don't you know

I'll actually give a somewhat serious response: the 3DS uses the camera for augmented reality games.  The shame isn't that you can't take quality pictures.  When you play Face Raiders or with the AR cards, there is a stunning disconnect between the 3DS visuals and real life background.  Whether that is an issue depends on how the augmented reality stuff is used in the future.  I hope they do because that has been the coolest unique thing about the system.

Also, people were praising Nintendo for releasing an affordable 3D camera back when it was revealed, as if it would be a bullet point.  I guess that's a valid point but there are cellphones with 3D screens.  I guess affordable is the keyword.

As for using the 3D slider to find a comfortable spot, I don't think one exists.  The slider just changes the distance between the two images increasing the depth; whether it's 1 or 100%, you're still looking at two images with each eye.  The effect and discomfort simply increases as you increase the depth.  I don't know about others, but I can see the 3D effect at 100% and it's very pronounced and cool.  But it's taxing and I had to turn it down, and then eventually off if I was playing for an extended period of time (less than an hour).  Ideally it would look like it does at 100% without eye strain, and as it is, I don't think I can play a full game like Zelda OoT with this.  Most likely I'll turn in on in specific scenes when it might be useful, like playing energy ball tennis.

Yeah, it really screws with the AR since it's like you're looking at the world through a shitty grainy camera
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 30, 2011, 01:22:02 PM
3DS has 128MB RAM(fcram).


http://www.ifixit.com/blog/blog/2011/03/28/nintendo-3ds-has-128mb-ram/ (http://www.ifixit.com/blog/blog/2011/03/28/nintendo-3ds-has-128mb-ram/)

Nice.



and yet this has load times as bad as a psp with 32/64mb ram and umd, WHAT WHAT NINTENWHAT
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on March 30, 2011, 01:39:37 PM
From Iwata asks

Quote
Iwata:Exactly what kind of challenges did you face?

Umezu:As mentioned earlier, I designed the chip without any thought of 3D, so we had to change the design quite a lot, like doubling the graphics rendering speed. I was really worried about whether we could make a chip that players could actually use in time for E3.

Iwata:And of course we couldn't ask E3 to change its schedule on our account.

Umezu:Right. I asked those involved with the SoC to do the impossible, and with regard to polishing it off, I think Sugino-san had a rough time of it, too.

3D was good for something after all.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Corporal on March 30, 2011, 02:01:39 PM
128 Megs? That's a pretty OK amount. Not great, but quite serviceable.

Of course, seeing as this is Nintendo we're talking about, it's a titanic tech investment. I bet they fucked it up somehow by permanently eating 64 Megs at runtime for their Browser-enabled menu or something equally distinguished mentally-challenged.
Quote
| PSP | 51.095
| 3DS | 50.710
Game over Nintendo,take your reptilian age handheld and leave

PSP :bow2
:o

That's Awesome. Yes, with a capital A.

I hope they'll actually have to compete with someone, for a change. It'll do them good. Now I really cannot wait to see what the 3DSLite will look like.  :drool
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 30, 2011, 03:22:26 PM
I recon the high prices on games and hardware is the reason for tepid 3ds sales.  Hopefully the market corrects itself soon (yeah right)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 30, 2011, 03:41:17 PM
Game prices...not really.  Cost the same as DS/PSP games in Japan. 

Hardware?  Definitely.  The 3DS is stupidly overpriced.  Should've been $199 or less.  Especially when the parts are so cheap.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 30, 2011, 03:44:02 PM
PSP is awesome, awesome is PSP
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 30, 2011, 03:46:18 PM
think though, if it was a 3 megapixel camera, the system would be like $349 :-/

err, really?  The same quality camera as an iPhone 3GS?

They literally cost next to nothing these days.

Christ, way to take their statement and run away with it for your own agenda.  They didn't say turn it off at all.  The included a slider for people to reach a COMFORTABLE 3d depth that wouldn't hurt their eyes.  Christ, the lengths you people go to hate on ANYTHING.

One more knee-jerk reaction to a half-serious post, and I'm banning you.

haha dude really?  for the camera thing I was being facetious, and dude, come on, bitches know I love my nintendo.  that should be apparent.  threatening to ban, lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 30, 2011, 03:51:10 PM
Game prices...not really.  Cost the same as DS/PSP games in Japan. 


That doesn't mean its not expensive.  Ds and Psp games now have the advantage of their large installed bases built up over the years. 3ds doesn't have that luxury.  The initial hardware price is probably the biggest inhibitor to all this, yes.  But don't kill my dream of ~$25 dollar retail games :(

edit: How popular is the iphone is japan right now anyway?  This may be an indication if value perception has indeed changed for portable gaming.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 30, 2011, 04:23:01 PM
I'm not really worried about hardware sales for now, it's too early to tell. I am, however, disappointed by the sales of nintendogs+cats, as I thought those games would sell like hotcakes.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on March 30, 2011, 04:25:48 PM
personaly i tought that layton would sell like hotcakes,from what i understand it's the best sold 3DS game but it still didn't do much compared to previous layton games?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 30, 2011, 04:28:56 PM
I'm glad the 3DS sales are starting out slow. It gets sfags hopes up, only to crush them as soon as Nintendo releases the next WiiFit/Nintendogs/Brain Age casual bullshit that the mainstream latches on to.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 30, 2011, 04:29:43 PM
Every Layton release have selling less that its predecessor, so it's more about the series being in slow decline rather than an indication of the viability of the 3DS.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 30, 2011, 04:29:49 PM
I'm not really worried about hardware sales for now, it's too early to tell. I am, however, disappointed by the sales of Nintendo Dogs+cats, as I thought those games would sell like hotcakes.



Wait why would you care about Nintendogs and Ca....
 You ARE a sales cigarillo!  I always knew, somehow, I always knew!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 30, 2011, 04:32:59 PM
I'm glad the 3DS sales are starting out slow. It gets sfags hopes up, only to crush them as soon as Nintendo releases the next WiiFit/Nintendo Dogs/Brain Age casual bullshit that the mainstream latches on to.

Haha, that's what I was thinking. I don't see any advantages for either handhelds being the clear winner. The more the battle is drawn out and heated, the funnier it will be. That and of course getting lots of quality software on both platforms.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 30, 2011, 04:43:20 PM
Wait why would you care about Nintendo Dogs and Ca....
 You ARE a sales cigarillo!  I always knew, somehow, I always knew!

Launch numbers and sales are always fun to watch. :-[
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 30, 2011, 04:45:22 PM
Dogs and Cats don't sell because they're aimed at the casual audience and the 3DS hardware is aimed at the gamer audience. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 30, 2011, 04:47:45 PM
Since when has it been decided that the 3DS doesn't hold any casual appeal?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 30, 2011, 07:21:47 PM
128MB of RAM is actually pretty damn good for a portable system at this point in time.

Htc thunderbolt has at least 512, might even be 768
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 30, 2011, 07:27:02 PM
128MB of RAM is actually pretty damn good for a portable system at this point in time.

Htc thunderbolt has at least 512, might even be 768

Too bad it won't ever get any big games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Jabberwocky on March 30, 2011, 07:43:25 PM
Japan MC

Quote
| PSP | 51.095
| 3DS | 50.710

Game over Nintendo,take your reptilian age handheld and leave

PSP :bow2

After seeing these sales I was/am seriously considering returning my 3DS and getting one when it's inevitably cheaper (what other option does Nintendo have other than dropping the price, at this point? it's apparently 100$ more expensive than it should be anyway).
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 30, 2011, 08:20:10 PM
128MB of RAM is actually pretty damn good for a portable system at this point in time.

Htc thunderbolt has at least 512, might even be 768

Too bad it won't ever get any big games.

Which doesn't have any impact on nintendos bargain basement hardware.

Is the new Sony app store only for xperias or could it appear on other phones?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 30, 2011, 08:38:20 PM
Yeeeeeessssss nice job PSP.

yeah, Pilotwings 3DS is a slummy, cheap game that doesn't capture what made me like Pilotwings 64.  It's short on content and what's there is boring and hidden.  It's like if you were paid in pennies, except you simply handed the pennies, they were spread out randomly in a giant sandbox.  And you have to spend money to enter that sandbox to find the pennies.  And when you finally collect them all, you realize you aren't in America and the pennies are worthless.  And then he spreads nickels, but only a portion can be collected during specific times.

That was the only game that looked interesting, this is sad news.

I should probably clarify that it isn't a bad game.  It's fun to fly around, it has nice controls, and some of the challenges are fun.  The problems is how inane the structure is, and how little content there is.  Pilotwings 64 had various locations, each with secrets and other quirks; it was fun to explore those places.  Pilotwings 3DS has one island and it is the same island from Wii Sports Resort flying mode.

The free flight mode is the most baffling thing about the game.  I'm just gonna list it:
-There is a 2 minute time limit on free flight
-To extend that time, you need to pop 120 balloons in 2 minute intervals
-To unlock the balloons, you need to play challenge mode
-Your reward for popping 120 balloons: time is extended to 5 minutes

There is no unlimited free flight.  In total I believe there are 250 things to collect split between rings, balloons and information icons.  All of that is done through small chunks.

Explaining it like that makes it sound like a nightmare.  The game is fun but, no hyperbole, the Crackdown demo had considerably more content than this $40 game.  At least it made sense for a demo to have a time limit. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: chronovore on March 30, 2011, 08:53:34 PM
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2011-03-30-retailers-evasive-on-3ds-uk-launch

Quote
Retailers evasive on 3DS UK launch

Level of success still unclear as Nintendo fails to provide sales figures
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on March 30, 2011, 08:54:15 PM
After seeing these sales I was/am seriously considering returning my 3DS and getting one when it's inevitably cheaper (what other option does Nintendo have other than dropping the price, at this point? it's apparently 100$ more expensive than it should be anyway).

Yeah it is indeed $100 more than it should be.  However since it is the best selling handheld in history in the USA it might take a while for it to happen in Japan.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 30, 2011, 09:00:15 PM
What I don't get is if it's really selling like hotcakes like Nintendo claims in the US, then why can you just walk into a store and buy one still and the price on ebay is basically $250-260.  Did they really supply THAT many or is there not much demand. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on March 30, 2011, 09:06:54 PM
I am guessing they did supply that many.  Historically Nintendo never really have good launches, shit software always at launch and always low hardware sales.  But it is probably the best sales for a Nintendo launch yet.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Jabberwocky on March 30, 2011, 09:11:50 PM
What I don't get is if it's really selling like hotcakes like Nintendo claims in the US, then why can you just walk into a store and buy one still and the price on ebay is basically $250-260.  Did they really supply THAT many or is there not much demand. 

I heard somewhere they shipped 1.6 million in the US.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on March 30, 2011, 09:53:32 PM
I don't doubt the hardware will do well initially but there's a question mark on what happens next and overall software.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on March 30, 2011, 09:56:31 PM
I don't doubt the hardware will do well initially but there's a question mark on what happens next and overall software.

MARIO PARTY 3D
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Trent Dole on March 30, 2011, 10:23:30 PM
We've sold 0 of these so far. Yeah.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 30, 2011, 10:30:36 PM
Man, so many players absolutely suck at SSF4 3DS online.  At 4:37 in play time, I already have 2252 PP and 79/87 fights won for a 90.80% win rate.  Got another streak going at 25 wins with Chun-Li, and currently have 2357 BP with her.  64/67 fights won for a 95.52% win rate. 

Even playing with the pro control setting, there are still people popping up who cannot even do special moves.   :lol :-\

I have yet to come across any players using Honda, Blanka, Viper, Rufus, Fuerte, Seth, Rose, Gen, Dan, Makoto, Dudley, and Adon yet.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 30, 2011, 10:44:55 PM
My parents thought the AR stuff was cool and the 3d camera was alright.  My dad was like "should I buy stock in Nintendo because they're so far ahead of the technology curve" and I had to lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 30, 2011, 10:46:05 PM
I don't doubt the hardware will do well initially but there's a question mark on what happens next and overall software.

MARIO PARTY 3D

Hudson died.  No more mario party

ironically it was no mario party that probably put them out of business ^^;
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Trent Dole on March 30, 2011, 11:00:28 PM
I kind of doubt that it'd be difficult for some other devloper to shit out a Mario Party if asked.  :poop
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 30, 2011, 11:04:30 PM
I don't doubt the hardware will do well initially but there's a question mark on what happens next and overall software.

MARIO PARTY 3D

Hudson died.  No more mario party

ironically it was no mario party that probably put them out of business ^^;

That's not irony, dork.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on March 30, 2011, 11:07:41 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/p3HHw.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/XK956.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7MgsJ.jpg)

Rail shooters requiring DS waggle ???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on March 30, 2011, 11:07:56 PM
We've sold 0 of these so far. Yeah.

GOOD JOB!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Trent Dole on March 30, 2011, 11:13:31 PM
I do what I can.  8)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on March 30, 2011, 11:20:02 PM
Man, so many players absolutely suck at SSF4 3DS online.  At 4:37 in play time, I already have 2252 PP and 79/87 fights won for a 90.80% win rate.  Got another streak going at 25 wins with Chun-Li, and currently have 2357 BP with her.  64/67 fights won for a 95.52% win rate. 

Even playing with the pro control setting, there are still people popping up who cannot even do special moves.   :lol :-\

I have yet to come across any players using Honda, Blanka, Viper, Rufus, Fuerte, Seth, Rose, Gen, Dan, Makoto, Dudley, and Adon yet.

to be fair, is this any sort of surprise? These guys are used to playing Smash Bros, Mario Kart, and Imagine Dolphin Babiez
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 30, 2011, 11:31:18 PM
Yeah, on the gaf thread there were a lot of people playing SSFIV 3DS who said their last experience with street fighter was SF2 on the SNES.  Don't underestimate the Nintendo fans who skip every system not named Nintendo something.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on March 30, 2011, 11:35:36 PM
I cant stand noobs. People should be automatcially good at games
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 30, 2011, 11:36:58 PM
Nah, you guys are acting like it's only GAF Ninthings that are buying the 3DS. 

It could just be the that most of the hardcore fighting game community doesn't give a shit...the game IS using a control scheme that fight pad/stick-only players don't, and it DOES run at only 30 FPS online.  I've played some people with high BP, and they still suck, but I beat them using the same tactics I would against similar players on the console versions, so who knows.  I think I've played like three people I'd say were on my level or higher, and I consider myself an intermediate-level SSF4 player.

I think in the end, DOA Dimensions is going to work out better, because it's going to be more noob-friendly and better-suited to the DS control layout.  Don't want to make it sound like I'm having a bad time though.  This game is still AWESOME.  Just hit 50 wins straight with Chun and the got the "Legendary Fighter" achievement for winning 100 matches.  Think I'm done for the night.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 30, 2011, 11:40:00 PM
Looks like someone's catching feelings over the perception of his awesome street fighting skills. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on March 30, 2011, 11:40:42 PM
lol I'm trollin 2 da max. I suck ass at Street Fighter too :lol

I was having a nightmare last night in SF4 trying to pull off Ultras/Supers which involved any charging up (eg: Guile, Chun Li). How the fuck do you do those
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 30, 2011, 11:41:32 PM
Looks like someone's catching feelings over the perception of his awesome street fighting skills. 

It's more like "looks like someone is wondering where the hell everyone is at that knows how to even do a COMBO."   :lol  I haven't seen this many flowchart Kens since vanilla SF4 first hit consoles in Feb. '09.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 30, 2011, 11:42:22 PM
lol I'm trollin 2 da max. I suck ass at Street Fighter too :lol

I was having a nightmare last night in SF4 trying to pull off Ultras/Supers which involved any charging up (eg: Guile, Chun Li). How the fuck do you do those

1) Get rid of SF4.
2) Buy SSF4.
3) PRACTICE!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on March 30, 2011, 11:46:07 PM
lol I'm trollin 2 da max. I suck ass at Street Fighter too :lol

I was having a nightmare last night in SF4 trying to pull off Ultras/Supers which involved any charging up (eg: Guile, Chun Li). How the fuck do you do those

1) Get rid of SF4.
2) Buy SSF4.
3) PRACTICE!

pretty all much. I'm just playing my friends copy of SF4 just to see if I can get into it enough to warrant picking up Super. I like it but I'm not sure if I still have the patience to master a fighting game. I could use EVERY character in Tekken Tag when I was in high school but I'm having trouble picking up SF4. Tried using Chun Li and my head exploded trying to figure out all the air throws and cancels and shit. I'm guessing shes a more advanced character. I like Rufus and Sagat. And Ryu and Ken of course.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 30, 2011, 11:48:28 PM
lol I'm trollin 2 da max. I suck ass at Street Fighter too :lol

I was having a nightmare last night in SF4 trying to pull off Ultras/Supers which involved any charging up (eg: Guile, Chun Li). How the fuck do you do those

1) Get rid of SF4.
2) Buy SSF4.
3) PRACTICE!

pretty all much. I'm just playing my friends copy of SF4 just to see if I can get into it enough to warrant picking up Super. I like it but I'm not sure if I still have the patience to master a fighting game. I could use EVERY character in Tekken Tag when I was in high school but I'm having trouble picking up SF4. Tried using Chun Li and my head exploded trying to figure out all the air throws and cancels and shit. I'm guessing shes a more advanced character. I like Rufus and Sagat. And Ryu and Ken of course.

Didn't you say this like eight months ago?  You've had your friend's copy for a long time!  BTW, "all the air throws" = just lp+lk in the air.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on March 30, 2011, 11:52:09 PM
well he's my roommate  :lol (goes by the name of quietID here)

I just shove it in every now and then if I feel like Street Fightin'. I'm really keen to actually get into the game proper this time!

I would have picked up Super ages ago If I wasn't a dirty poor student. Seriously, I'm running out of shit to play for the first time in years. Will suck dick for X360 games


sorry for derailing thread. Back to shithouse overpriced handheld discussion.

shits 470 bucks here :dizzy you can get X360 for like 350. What a fucking joke.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 30, 2011, 11:58:22 PM
well he's my roommate  :lol (goes by the name of quietID here)

I just shove it in every now and then if I feel like Street Fightin'. I'm really keen to actually get into the game proper this time!

I would have picked up Super ages ago If I wasn't a dirty poor student. Seriously, I'm running out of shit to play for the first time in years. Will suck dick for X360 games


sorry for derailing thread. Back to shithouse overpriced handheld discussion.

shits 470 bucks here :dizzy you can get X360 for like 350. What a fucking joke.

I know you're not in the States, but dude...Super is like $20 here.  It's still regular price in NZ?  If you have an American 360 account, it's $30 for direct download.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on March 31, 2011, 12:00:33 AM
Oh I can get it for about 40 new zealand bucks (prob about 30USD), its just that I'm tending to prioritise partying over game purchases at the moment  :lol Curse the infernal student lifestyle!

Altohugh I've got some contract work coming up I think, which will give me a nice chunk of change for some new games. Need DNF so bad
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 31, 2011, 12:04:45 AM
Man, I wanna get a 3DS just to feel what it's like to be a SF expert. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on March 31, 2011, 05:35:32 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5PWN4zBBt4&feature=player_embedded#at=28[/youtube]

F-F-FINISH :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: originalz on March 31, 2011, 12:32:47 PM
Finally played some Ridge Racer.  Solid game, I guess it's like any other RR game so whatever, good for me.  The 3D is really finicky in the game and nearly impossible to play in 3rd person view, but go to 1st person and get into the sweet spot and it can be pretty impressive.  The interface is good enough but is there any way to scroll down on the bottom screen when they describe stuff?   Text often runs off the bottom and I can't figure out how to read the rest of it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 31, 2011, 03:54:26 PM
Got my games in.  Trying to play SFIV with pro controls.  It's so fucking hard to control.  Can't beat Seth :( 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 31, 2011, 04:01:33 PM
Ok, there beat him. 

My impressions of SSFIV.

-the d-pad is HORRIBLE like I originally thought.  I'm standing by my complaint that this is worse than the PSP 1000 d-pad, worse than the X360 d-pad, worse than any other d-pad.  I can't do diagonals AT ALL with it.  Half the time I want to press DB+roundhouse to sweep he does a standing axe kick.  Half the time I want to jump forward or back he jumps straight up.  And trying to do QCBx2 supers is lolll.  The buttons are a mess too with a four button face, but at least you can get used to using the L/Rs for attack buttons.  But I cannot get used to this d-pad.  Ughhh.  Default analog doesn't work at all either, too loose, can't do DP.  Will try to calibrate it like you said, Lyte.

-Graphics are eh.  Looks about on par with PSP fighters.  What feels weird is how small the characters look.  Compared to playing on an HDTV it's like you're playing with collectable toy figures.  Also whoever said 3d will give FREE AA is a liar, models look jaggy in 3d.

-Sound is pretty good.  Huge improvement over DS sound quality.

-3D is underwhelming.  I hope this is not all the machine can bring in terms of 3d.  It looks less "3d" and more like pop-up book street fighter with characters on one plane, with a flat background behind them and that's it.  Not impressed. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 31, 2011, 04:16:52 PM
I tried two matches online against different people.  Both ran in complete slow-motion.  I know my wireless isn't the fastest, but other games like wipeout worked fine.  Boo. 

So now I have a single player only shitty controlling, weak looking, SSF4.  Reminded me why I would ever play this over my PS3 version?  Bah, waste of $40; I knew I didn't want it but everyone on the internet says OMG BEST LAUNCH GAME.  YOU MUST BUY. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 31, 2011, 04:32:33 PM
You should have got Ghost Recon instead. Fire Emblem w/Guns
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 31, 2011, 05:02:55 PM
Tried Musou.  Muuuch better.

Game feels and looks a generation back coming from Gundam Musou 3, aka it feels like the PS2 musou games; but that's not a bad thing.  The PS2 musous were still fun.  One thing I notice coming from GM3 is how horrible the animation is on these ones and the low 30fps or less framerate (since GM3 is locked 60fps).  Otherwise though it controls fine and the whole touch screen ordering generals and changing characters is pretty cool.  Is there a list of which SW1/2 characters are in this as playable?  And are there any new characters?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 31, 2011, 05:07:04 PM
Also the 3d was interesting.  Although I feel like I got scammed.  When Nintendo said they were releasing a 3d handheld I thought they meant like Captain EO where stuff is going to FLY AT MY FACE off the screen.  Apparently that's not the kind of 3d this system does.  Nothing comes forward beyond the screen, everything just moves backwards behind the screen to create an illusion of a little 3d panorama box living in your monitor.  Don't know if I really care for that.  I want hadouken's flying in my face.  Also the whole "3d must be 30fps or below" is going to keep me from using 3d mode once some 2d = 60fps games come out.  I'd really like to see what a high framerate game looks like on this hardware.

Finally a major difference between the 3DS top screen and my PSP-3000 screen is the reflection.  3DS screen is incredible reflective.  If you have any light coming in at all you're getting reflections.  Really don't like that.  The psp-3000 screen seems bigger, more colorful, and just greater clarity overall than the top 3DS screen.  :X 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 31, 2011, 05:21:16 PM
not even major 3D movies use the 3D you were expecting.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 31, 2011, 05:31:47 PM
So now I have a single player only shitty controlling, weak looking, SSF4.  Reminded me why I would ever play this over my PS3 version?  Bah, waste of $40; I knew I didn't want it but everyone on the internet says OMG BEST LAUNCH GAME.  YOU MUST BUY. 

the only folks saying that are disgusting ninthings who were too scared of the real next-gen consoles to have played ssf4 previously
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 31, 2011, 05:39:28 PM
Ok, played Pilotwings and it restored my faith in the system.  It's the first launch game that makes me think the 3DS may not be a POS.

Game looks great and colorful.  The 3d is fantastic.  SSFIV/Musou 3d look really amateur 3d compared to this.
Controls are really good and the game is very fun.

Basically it feels like a polished first party Nintendo game.  Yay.  Will definitely be what I use to show off the system to family and stuff. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 31, 2011, 05:53:42 PM
Yeah, I was just talking to jarosh and he gave the game his seal of approval. He's really digging the game.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 31, 2011, 05:57:21 PM
It might only be like 2-5 hours long (if you aren't going for perfecting everything), but honestly I don't really think length is an important point of launch software.  It's just supposed to be fun and show off the potential for the system abilities.  I think launch games should mainly be pick up and play short titles to mess around with while you're playing real meaty games on other systems until later in the year when the first real system sellers start to arrive.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 31, 2011, 06:10:48 PM
how the fuck do you enjoy pilotwings

i mean, there is literally NOTHING there, it's like shittin' yer jorts over a demo

call me when they add actual gameplay, perhaps by allowing me to shoot at those hateful miis

(i think nintendo dogs + nintendo cats is still the most effective use of 3d i've seen)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 31, 2011, 06:14:28 PM
then again, i never understood the folks who enjoyed pilotwings back in the snes and n64 days. how can you endure the presumedly novel sensation of fake flying when the graphics are that shitty? DEMAND BETTER, folks.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 31, 2011, 06:25:18 PM
I like flying through rings :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on March 31, 2011, 06:45:43 PM
Holy shit how bad can the d-pad be?  Worse than the psp 1000 is thaat even possible?  Holy shit.  Hopefully a revision will be made by the time i buy one.  :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 31, 2011, 06:54:42 PM
Best thing about 3DS is that it brought back the feisty Drinky Crow that we loved. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 31, 2011, 06:59:14 PM
Holy shit how bad can the d-pad be?  Worse than the psp 1000 is thaat even possible?  Holy shit.  Hopefully a revision will be made by the time i buy one.  :(

It's fine if all you're using it for is up/down/left/right menu presses.

I don't think it's useable for actual gameplay.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 31, 2011, 06:59:30 PM
Tried Musou.  Muuuch better.

Game feels and looks a generation back coming from Gundam Musou 3, aka it feels like the PS2 musou games; but that's not a bad thing.  The PS2 musous were still fun.  One thing I notice coming from GM3 is how horrible the animation is on these ones and the low 30fps or less framerate (since GM3 is locked 60fps).  Otherwise though it controls fine and the whole touch screen ordering generals and changing characters is pretty cool.  Is there a list of which SW1/2 characters are in this as playable?  And are there any new characters?

All of the characters from Samurai Warriors 3, including the added characters from the new J-only expansion/Sengoku Musou 3Z are in Chronicles.  I can't think of who is missing from SW2 off the top of my head, but it's very few, IIRC.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 31, 2011, 07:02:04 PM
Lyte, you really need to play Gundam Musou 3.  The normal musou games feel so dated in comparison.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 31, 2011, 07:12:25 PM
Lyte, you really need to play Gundam Musou 3.  The normal musou games feel so dated in comparison.

I have Hokuto Musou, Musou Orochi Z, Sengoku Musou 3Z, Warriors Orochi 2 PSP, Samurai Warriors Chronicles, Sengoku Basara 3, and now Dynasty Warriors 7-- I think that's enough!

I can't see Gundam Musou being better than DW7 or SW3Z.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 31, 2011, 07:23:17 PM
So now I have a single player only shitty controlling, weak looking, SSF4.  Reminded me why I would ever play this over my PS3 version?  Bah, waste of $40; I knew I didn't want it but everyone on the internet says OMG BEST LAUNCH GAME.  YOU MUST BUY. 

the only folks saying that are disgusting ninthings who were too scared of the real next-gen consoles to have played ssf4 previously

Us genuine ninthings would wonder why anyone wouldn't just wait for a real fighting game like Smash Brothers.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 31, 2011, 08:09:43 PM
ooh, i need to order sw3z from playasia. sw3 is definitely my fave musou.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on March 31, 2011, 08:49:14 PM
ooh, i need to order sw3z from playasia. sw3 is definitely my fave musou.

It's definitely solid (nice visual upgrade, going at 60FPS, although the older CG cut scenes are still Wii-shit-quality) and the extras are nice, but the added characters and levels ARE in Chronicles.  But there's no denying that it's the best version of Samurai Warriors, period.

I tried two matches online against different people.  Both ran in complete slow-motion.  I know my wireless isn't the fastest, but other games like wipeout worked fine.  Boo. 

So now I have a single player only shitty controlling, weak looking, SSF4.  Reminded me why I would ever play this over my PS3 version?  Bah, waste of $40; I knew I didn't want it but everyone on the internet says OMG BEST LAUNCH GAME.  YOU MUST BUY. 

I missed this post.  So you're gonna judge the online based on TWO matches?  Come on dude. 

Why would you play this over the PS3 version?  It's portable.  You can play it outside your home, on the can, wherever. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 31, 2011, 09:20:26 PM
ooh, i need to order sw3z from playasia. sw3 is definitely my fave musou.

It's definitely solid (nice visual upgrade, going at 60FPS, although the older CG cut scenes are still Wii-shit-quality) and the extras are nice, but the added characters and levels ARE in Chronicles.  But there's no denying that it's the best version of Samurai Warriors, period.

I tried two matches online against different people.  Both ran in complete slow-motion.  I know my wireless isn't the fastest, but other games like wipeout worked fine.  Boo. 

So now I have a single player only shitty controlling, weak looking, SSF4.  Reminded me why I would ever play this over my PS3 version?  Bah, waste of $40; I knew I didn't want it but everyone on the internet says OMG BEST LAUNCH GAME.  YOU MUST BUY. 

I missed this post.  So you're gonna judge the online based on TWO matches?  Come on dude. 

Why would you play this over the PS3 version?  It's portable.  You can play it outside your home, on the can, wherever.

Nailed it.

This point is especially hypocritical coming from staunch PSP2 supporters like Prole and Bebpo. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 31, 2011, 09:45:50 PM
then again, i never understood the folks who enjoyed pilotwings back in the snes and n64 days. how can you endure the presumedly novel sensation of fake flying when the graphics are that shitty? DEMAND BETTER, folks.

I was going to make a "It's like the Mario Kart of Flight Sims!" post, but that's killyourself talk

There's just something fun about casually flying around that's not limited to Pilotwings.  I've spent hours just flying around in Just Cause 2 and had more fun with that.  Pilotwings just adds a few challenges and objectives on that, even when it's just flying around and taking pictures.  Really the 3DS version's biggest failure is that the single island is clinical and boring.  And as for similar games, Sky Odyssey is a much better take on on it, but it's mostly limited to planes in that game.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 31, 2011, 11:13:58 PM
I missed this post.  So you're gonna judge the online based on TWO matches?  Come on dude. 

Why would you play this over the PS3 version?  It's portable.  You can play it outside your home, on the can, wherever. 

I actually tried a bunch more matches and yeah, it's been lagtastic slow-motion unplayable garbage for 8/10 fights.  Occasionally I'll get a perfect no-lag fight.

It's like, as if trying to do moves on the microscopic d-pad wasn't hard enough, couple that with 30fps and lag and it because becomes impossible to do anything in matches.  The worst part about constant lag matches is it's boring to play them once you've started and see how laggy it is, yet if you quit you're a drop/quitting person so you have to sit out this slow-motion fight.  After it happens match after match, it's just not fun.

But yeah, I can't play this at all.  If I knew anyone else with a 3DS I'd try to swap it for some other game.  With shotos I can do fireballs (although sometimes they come out as DPs), DPs, and have difficulty doing hurricane kicks.  Doing standard jump kick -> forward -> fireball combos is doable but kind of tough.  Anything more complex than that is practically impossible.  With charge characters...for some reason a simple DB->F or DB->U doesn't even work half the time.  And a lot of times press DB to charge block and your character does B and gets swept.  Frustrating.  I think if I tried playing with the analog + simple touch controls it might be ok, but that's not really street fighter.  I dunno, maybe after I finish with Pilotwings and Musou and have nothing to play on 3DS I'll try to play enough to get used to it, but frankly I think the game sucks because of the 3DS controls.  I remember how annoying SFA3 was on PSP-1000 and this is even worse.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on March 31, 2011, 11:18:03 PM
look man, don't even try starting this FUD spreading shit here. You don't have the panache to keep it up and not get banned. All the 9/10 reviews don't lie
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 31, 2011, 11:27:39 PM
launch title syndrome!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 31, 2011, 11:29:56 PM
look man, don't even try starting this FUD spreading shit here. You don't have the panache to keep it up and not get banned. All the 9/10 reviews don't lie

That's because they all played it in simple mode with their $200 internet lines at work.


This point is especially hypocritical coming from staunch PSP2 supporters like Prole and Bebpo. 

You want to play Dynasty Warriors on the go?  Want to play Ridge Racer on the go?  Ok, fine.  Those games work on a handheld.  Fighting games?....not so much.  It's one thing for a genre that works 95% as well on handheld to have a handheld rendition you can play when you're on the can or on a plane, but if it's just a bastardization of the original game then what's the point?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 31, 2011, 11:35:59 PM
Almost every game is better on a console than on a handheld.  Dunno why you're trying to make SSF4 into a specific 3DS problem. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 31, 2011, 11:36:44 PM
I have conquered whatever urge there normally is to buy every launch title.  I only have pilotwings (for $15, btw) and won't get anything else until Zelda OoT except maybe Dead or Alive.

It helps that there is no feeling of newness with the 3DS.  I just feel like I'm playing the PSP (with a much better analog slider).
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 31, 2011, 11:41:05 PM
Yeah, I've been playing Pilotwings some more and it feels SO GOOD playing a game like this that requires pretty precise control AND NOT BE STUCK USING A HANDHELD D-PAD.  After so many years of games being gimped by Nintendo's d-pad only handhelds and PSP's kind of ho-hum analog, it's nice having something halfway decent.  Would I want to play an FPS on it?  No way.  Too sensitive for aiming or anything, but for most games it'll be fine enough.

I'm on the gold group in the game and it's getting a lot tougher. 

Note: I don't think this is some amazing game or anything.  And yes, Sky Odyssey is better.  But compared to the other launch stuff, it's a fun title.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 31, 2011, 11:42:28 PM
Almost every game is better on a console than on a handheld.  Dunno why you're trying to make SSF4 into a specific 3DS problem. 

Because fighting games have a higher requirement for controls than any other genre?  Did you play Street Fighter on GBA and PSP?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 31, 2011, 11:42:40 PM
Fine, you hatin' assholes win.  I'm buying a 2nd 160gb Intel SSD for Raid instead of a 3DS.  PSP 2 better be worth the wait.  
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 31, 2011, 11:43:15 PM
Buy a 3DS in a year when the screen has better 3d range and the d-pad is good.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 31, 2011, 11:44:28 PM
I'll add that I'm already feeling the no second analog blues with this thing, again going back to the 'like a PSP' thing.  Pilotwings has camera control on the d-pad located directly underneath the analog slider.

I don't know how the other games handle it except for splinter cell, which uses the face buttons as camera control  :-\
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 31, 2011, 11:46:05 PM
I really like the 3DS analog slider though.  It felt comfortable and precise. 

I still have doubts that the PSP2 sliders/sticks will be just as good.  Sony went through 4 iterations of the PSP and still couldn't get it right.  
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 31, 2011, 11:50:10 PM
PSP2 has real analog sticks, not a slider.  The impressions from people who played it said they felt better than the PS3 controller analog sticks.  Not the highest praise in the world but they can be OK.  At least there are two.

Oh, and recently there was something about how they can be clicked in (L3/R3 buttons)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: demi on March 31, 2011, 11:52:55 PM
I have conquered whatever urge there normally is to buy every launch title.  I only have pilotwings (for $15, btw) and won't get anything else until Zelda OoT except maybe Dead or Alive.

It helps that there is no feeling of newness with the 3DS.  I just feel like I'm playing the PSP (with a much better analog slider).

Fail for not buying Ghost Recon
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 31, 2011, 11:55:19 PM
I have conquered whatever urge there normally is to buy every launch title.  I only have pilotwings (for $15, btw) and won't get anything else until Zelda OoT except maybe Dead or Alive.

It helps that there is no feeling of newness with the 3DS.  I just feel like I'm playing the PSP (with a much better analog slider).

Fail for not buying Ghost Recon

I haven't seen any impressions of it.

And I still have to play Advance Wars Days of Ruin or whatever that second DS game was called.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 01, 2011, 12:19:13 AM
DW is growing on me.  I wish they did the missions like GM though where they just popped up somewhere on the screen telling you where to go and what to do.  Stopping the action every other minute to tell you a new mission is kind of disruptive.  But I guess with a screen so small they couldn't put all the info on the screen. 

Switching between all the characters is a lot of fun and lets you cover the map much faster.  The command abilities are nice too.  And the whole "spirit balls" to try to balance the dash linking between combos makes sense although I prefer GM3 where you can just keep doing it until you run out of thrust.  I think my only disappointment with the combat is it takes so freaking long to get a real unique musou attack.  Having to build up 5 balls for your real musou means your rarely use it.  In all the past musou games I played you're doing musou attacks all the times as your combo enders.  Slash x 3/4/6 -> charge -> dash link -> repeat x 3 -> musou attack.  But here if you do that you just do your lame little non-unique musou at the end. 

Pretty good for a launch title though.  I'll probably stick to playing this until DW7 drops in price.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Oblivion on April 01, 2011, 01:33:01 AM
Almost every game is better on a console than on a handheld.  Dunno why you're trying to make SSF4 into a specific 3DS problem. 

Word.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Diunx on April 01, 2011, 02:34:11 AM
San andreas flying school bullshit >>>> pilotwings 64.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on April 01, 2011, 09:51:23 AM
Nintendo revealed Europe 3DS data,bit less than expected but still good
This is just for first 2 days

Quote
Nintendo has declared itself happy with the 3DS’ opening weekend sales of 113,000, even though the figure falls some way short of pre-launch expectations.

Last week the firm announced that pre-orders alone stood at 140,000 and most pundits were pitching their sell-through estimates at between 150,000 to 200,000. It would seem, however, that some of the information being fed back to the manufacturer from retail was slightly wide of (or, in fact, over) the mark.

It is thought that some of the biggest retailers, fearful of stock shortages, over-represented their customer pre-orders in an attempt to secure extra allocation.

The actual figure of 113,000 does still represent the company’s most successful hardware launch in the UK to date. The DSi managed 90,000 units while the Wii clocked up 106,000. It didn’t, however, break the PSP’s record of 185,000 – although this figure was achieved across four days rather than two.

There has been no sign of disappointment at retail, however, with pretty much every major chain, from specialists to supermarkets, declaring themselves delighted with the business generated by the new handheld.


Across Europe the 3DS sold a total of 303,000 units in the opening weekend.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/43790/3DS-sells-113000-units-in-UK-launch-weekendrn (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/43790/3DS-sells-113000-units-in-UK-launch-weekendrn)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 01, 2011, 10:08:59 AM
I just got a mega payday and I still just don't care about owning this product, lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 01, 2011, 10:51:50 AM
i got my system so im gunna say my impressions just from turning it on to makign a Mii

note that the last 3d and first 3d movie I ever saw was Shrek 4D at Univeral Studios back in 2004. So it's been almost 10 years since ive seen a 3d product.


when it first did that 3...2...1... thing and went to 3d it felt like someone was raping my eyes.

it still feels like that. like it doesnt feel like im supposed to be looking at this or somethig. The 3d effect on the menus is ok i guess but it doesnt look amazing I dunno. maybe once i boot up street fighter it will be better.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 01, 2011, 11:10:55 AM
Please share with us the experience of putting in a cart for the first time. Also, you forgot to mention what you think of the power buttons tactile response.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 01, 2011, 11:23:31 AM
I just wanted to say that I felt physical pain from the 3DS.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 01, 2011, 11:34:57 AM
I noticed that games rape your eyes less.  All the pain I had from using the 3d the first day with the AR games and 3D camera, got no pain at all from playing actual games the next day.  The camera fucks with your eyes though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: ManaByte on April 01, 2011, 04:55:47 PM
Just got mine with SSFIV and Pilotwings.

Friendcode: 3523-2065-7670
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: ManaByte on April 01, 2011, 05:07:37 PM
I just wanted to say that I felt physical pain from the 3DS.

Now you know what it's like to read your posts.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 01, 2011, 07:39:10 PM
wow you are rude. you didnt even post your friend code in the right post


but I will still add you :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 01, 2011, 07:53:50 PM
I just wanted to say that I felt physical pain from the 3DS.

Now you know what it's like to read your posts.

At least Methodis trys to be the best at what he does.

Respek Knuckles 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 01, 2011, 08:09:06 PM
If any of you guys want to view some 3D pictures on your DS from a DSLR here are some shots I had taken today...

http://3dporch.com/XlV0 (http://3dporch.com/XlV0)
http://3dporch.com/8M6U (http://3dporch.com/8M6U)
http://3dporch.com/ZEO4 (http://3dporch.com/ZEO4)
http://3dporch.com/uVyn (http://3dporch.com/uVyn)
http://3dporch.com/TOwp (http://3dporch.com/TOwp)
http://3dporch.com/vscD (http://3dporch.com/vscD)
http://3dporch.com/F8Un (http://3dporch.com/F8Un)
http://3dporch.com/k88w (http://3dporch.com/k88w)
http://3dporch.com/1lCX (http://3dporch.com/1lCX)
http://3dporch.com/yBE7 (http://3dporch.com/yBE7)
http://3dporch.com/CSV3 (http://3dporch.com/CSV3)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 01, 2011, 09:29:43 PM
Nice, will check them out later
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 01, 2011, 11:35:34 PM
I just wanted to say that I felt physical pain from the 3DS.

Now you know what it's like to read your posts.

At least Methodis trys to be the best at what he does.

Respek Knuckles 

respect

So I put some time in on some of the games, but so far my favorite so far is Ridge Racer by far. I have never played a Ridge Racer before so this is all fresh content to me.

The game reminds me HEAVILY of the late 90's arcade racing games like Cruisin' USA. It's got the really horribly soundtrack of fake music and has that really annoying announcer girl who won't shut up throughout the race. The gameplay is fantastic and really fun though and the courses are well made (although the NYC look alike has Twin Towers in it, or at least one fake one.)

As for the 3D effect, I started on low but worked my way up. It's pretty good, but I find it impossible to look at the hud and car at the same time as looking at the track. I don't know if it's just me but it's like hard to focus on those things and not have them look funny. Another ill side effect is that it's hard to tell the depth of your actual vehicle, so many timed i'll be slipstreaming someone and will accidentally hit them because the 3D effect led onto the car looking like it was longer then I guess it really is. The effect also makes the rear view mirror look god damn weird, and from my point of view impossible to use because it looks...odd when you go from the course to the mirror.

Sometimes the framerate will drop down to like 15 FPS which is boggling, and also sometimes the lack of AA will mess with the 3D effect.

So far I have Ridge Racer and Street Fighter 4 (which is Street Fighter 4. I usually make it two matches in before I become super bored) and so far this game was worth every penny. I have Pro Evo Soccer coming tommorow and I can't wait to look at Wayne Rooneys ugly mug in 3D.

Oh and i'm addicted to watching that White Knuckles video. I've never seen 3D movies/videos before outside of theme park visits like 10 years ago so this was a real treat. I am excited for hopefully more music videos and movies, but I really hope Nintendo sells White Knuckles or something because I will be first in line.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 02, 2011, 12:36:27 AM
i think i preferred nintendosbooger for my shot of contrived internet personality :-\

if this is what sa produces these days, well, the internet has gone to shit
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 02, 2011, 01:20:40 AM
what, i've been here forever and i've been a neogaf character since 2002.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on April 02, 2011, 03:18:38 AM
methodis breaking the fourth wall :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Mrbob on April 03, 2011, 06:30:32 PM
I love this damn device.  I can't believe it but I do.  I have Samurai Warriors and Ghost Recon and both games do a great job showing off the 3d effect.  I know the lack of power in the 3DS relatively speaking will piss me off in the future but I do feel like I'm getting a new experience playing these games in 3D.  Nintendo finally won me over on a gaming device.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: ManaByte on April 04, 2011, 01:27:31 AM
I have SFIV,Pilotwings, Ridge Racer, and Lego Star Wars and of those Pilotwings and Lego have the best 3D.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 04, 2011, 11:39:51 AM
i've already turned 3d off entirely. my daughter turned it off like 2 hours into owning it, and she probably has played it more than this entire board combined
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 04, 2011, 02:07:42 PM
wow she's already more advanced than 30 year old Nintendo fans :bow
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 04, 2011, 02:45:31 PM
i just remind myself that there are still folks out there with collections of lenticular pogs
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on April 04, 2011, 05:07:49 PM
While i wouldnt be bothered if 3d doesnt come at a cost, it does and makes me wish they made the thing without the 3d.  But then again because fo the 3d we have 60 fps games.

 :bow 3ds last bastion of 60 fps games for now  :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 04, 2011, 07:32:46 PM
they do make a 3ds without 3d

spoiler (click to show/hide)
that model is called the playstation portable
[close]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 04, 2011, 07:54:58 PM
3D is fucking awesome, anyone who says otherwise hasn't played it much. it adds so much and it makes racing games look and feel amazing.


:bow our new nintendo overlords
sony :piss
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: demi on April 04, 2011, 08:37:16 PM
Which one of you muhfukas has some 3DS game codes you aint using... hook me up please.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 04, 2011, 08:43:20 PM
Is it only Nintendo codes? If not i'll give you my codes if I can not be a leper <3
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: demi on April 04, 2011, 08:49:17 PM
Its gonna take a lot of codes for that.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 04, 2011, 08:51:06 PM
I guess you dont want this 160 pt console code then oh well ill use it
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: demi on April 04, 2011, 08:53:32 PM
I dont need a console serial since I plan on buying one eventually. Just some of the launch games that people might have bought.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 04, 2011, 08:54:21 PM
o sorry then
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on April 04, 2011, 09:17:08 PM
While i wouldnt be bothered if 3d doesnt come at a cost, it does and makes me wish they made the thing without the 3d.  But then again because fo the 3d we have 60 fps games.

 :bow 3ds last bastion of 60 fps games for now  :bow2

that's the same excuse for why PS3 games with 3D now have split screen multiplayer lol

they're developing cataracts and I'm reaping all the benefits   :elephant
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Jabberwocky on April 04, 2011, 11:28:20 PM
I bought this the day it came out, returned it 3 days later. But don't take that the wrong way - I really did like the system. It was more buyer's remorse than anything (I didn't want to be cheated with a price cut or a system revision in the near future). A few thoughts:

I bought the black one. It really does feel like a dual screen PSP.

One thing I love about the system is the main system interface. Nintendo did a really good job with it. I look forward to seeing how they're handling the eShop in May.

I don't understand the complaints of DS BC. Maybe I'm crazy but I actually thought DS games looked better on the 3DS (then again, I never played in blow-up mode; I only played DS games with the SELECT trick. Also, I never upgraded from the original DS Phat; maybe my standards were just low). Slightly unrelated, but upon getting a 3DS I also got a DS game called Avalon Code, which is surprisingly really good. Now that I don't have a 3DS anymore there's no way I can play it though. :( (broken DS)

3D slider is a vital inclusion. I usually play portable games on my side in bed; it's very difficult to see the 3D on max when I lay on my side. However I could see it perfectly when I put the slider on very low.

I didn't experience headaches, vomiting, or bleeding eyes with 3D, but it did make my eyes very tired. I liked playing around with the system right before going to sleep.

I've never owned a Wii, so I was new to Mii's. I've always despised the look of Mii's, but I actually had quite a bit of fun with the Mii Maker (another sign of my dark descent into casual gamerdom). The Mii photo taker thing wasn't very accurate for me. I hope Nintendo releases some kind of RPG maker one day with Mii integration.

Camera - seriously terrible. Grainy, low resolution, extremely sensitive to sudden movements. You'd think they used a phone camera from 2002. The contrast between the AR polygonal models and the poor quality of the camera is especially jarring.

Despite that, AR games was my personal favorite of the internal software (loved the music/sound). Never played Face Raiders.

Nintendo really needs to find some way to send data from an SD card over wifi (maybe with a system update?). I have very little access to computers that can read SD cards. I'd like to put music on the system in case any games ever use custom soundtracks.

Not sure what kind of "pop-out" effect Bebpo is talking about, because I actually did notice some pop-out 3D, even in the internal software (for example, the orbiting wrenches on the logo for "Settings" slightly popped out). However, I'm opposite of Bebpo in this respect: I actually prefer the "layered" effect of 3D as opposed to pop-out. That is, when the 3D makes it look like you're looking into a little box. I think that'll be really useful for certain games.

The analogue slider is the most pleasant surprise for me. The model I played at E3 2010 had a really terrible slider; it was wide, "slippery", and very hard to grip onto. The one on the current model is smaller and more "rubbery" so it has a much better grip. Massive improvement. Made some DS games actually play better.

The only major complaints I have of the system is the battery life (obviously) and the d-pad placement. Reaching for the d-pad under the slider was really awkward, especially for pressing down. Which is sad, since not all DS games (particularly top-down 2D games) are super friendly with the slider.

All in all I really enjoyed the system. I'll own it again someday I'm sure, but not anytime soon. I look forward to seeing Nintendo's/third parties' plans after E3.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 04, 2011, 11:28:35 PM
dcharlie can we be nintenfriends
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on April 04, 2011, 11:29:41 PM
I like the 3D effect too, but it actually did make my eyes feel exhausted and the natural way I hold the system is out of the 'sweet spot'.  It's more practical and comfortable to keep the slider off and just enjoy the game.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 04, 2011, 11:32:51 PM
the best way to see the full capatibility of the 3DS screen is to download these picture packs and look at themo n the screen. They literally pop way the fuck out at you like it's Terminator 3D.

http://kotaku.com/#!5788414/this-left-4-dead-screen-looks-awesome-on-the-3ds

http://multiple-option.blogspot.com/2011/04/3ds-porn-viktoria-sweet-mpo-photos.html

Also theres some pron in 3D lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Diunx on April 05, 2011, 12:02:23 AM
Lol look at demi begging for free shit like a poor.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: ManaByte on April 05, 2011, 11:32:50 AM
I have out of the four games I have (SSFIV, Pilotwings, Ridge Racer, and Lego); Pilotwings and Lego have the best 3D. I want to see more sidescrolling 2.5d platformers on the system. The 3D in Lego works really well.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Nintendosbooger on April 05, 2011, 09:24:17 PM
A glorified demo from Nintendo exhibits better 3D effects than a fleshed out 3rd party game. Guess we know which developer will exponentially outsell the competition on this machine, eh, boys?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 05, 2011, 09:32:54 PM
A glorified demo from Nintendo exhibits better 3D effects than a fleshed out 3rd party game. Guess we know which developer will exponentially outsell the competition on this machine, eh, boys?

The one that actually releases fleshed-out games, hopefully.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Nintendosbooger on April 05, 2011, 10:37:19 PM
Embarrassing.

Nintendo gave 3rd party developers all the room to make a mark on the new machine without any notable AAA Nintendo title to overshadow their efforts, and this is how they take advantage of that opportunity? What are the haters going to say now, "Well, had Nintendo not tried to hog up the spotlight with the release of a 12-year-old port three months after the launch of the system, 3rd party games would shine more on the machine."?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 05, 2011, 11:49:10 PM
It's not like third parties did badly on the DS. :P

It's the home consoles where that's a problem, not the handhelds.

I have to wonder about the perception from developers for the ds though.  The west ignored it for the most part, and even konami, namco, and capcom omitted several of their major franchises from ever gracing the machine.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 05, 2011, 11:58:50 PM
I just think stuff like a 2d street fighter 4 would've made perfect sense, but then again they didn't even bother to do a psp version.  I still think a soul calibur title wouldve worked since you could get away with cheap looking backgrounds and just concentrate on the character models.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 06, 2011, 12:20:15 AM
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Nintendo gave 3rd party developers all the room to make a mark on the new machine without any notable AAA Nintendo title

errr...

"As of March 31, 2009, all versions of Nintendo Dogs combined have sold 22.27 million copies worldwide,[4] making it the third best-selling standalone game of all time."

NO NOTABLE AAA NINTENDO TITLE AT LAUNCH ...

.... except a follow up to the third best selling game of all time.

I don't think its doing that well actually... relatively.  Let me find the media create and pal charts for the 3ds stuff.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 06, 2011, 12:28:57 AM
Media Create
08. / 06. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} - 13.219 / 160.742

UK charts (no numbers but its relative position)
37 (20) 3DS Nintendogs + Cats: Golden Retriever (Nintendo)

The first figure being total combined sales is very discouraging. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 06, 2011, 12:30:51 AM
Boo hoo
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 06, 2011, 12:33:23 AM
Oh look, someone is too cool for school. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on April 06, 2011, 12:36:49 AM
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Nintendo gave 3rd party developers all the room to make a mark on the new machine without any notable AAA Nintendo title

errr...

"As of March 31, 2009, all versions of Nintendo Dogs combined have sold 22.27 million copies worldwide,[4] making it the third best-selling standalone game of all time."

NO NOTABLE AAA NINTENDO TITLE AT LAUNCH ...

.... except a follow up to the third best selling game of all time.

Its probably because people learned that there isnt an actual game there.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Mrbob on April 06, 2011, 12:48:04 AM
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Nintendo gave 3rd party developers all the room to make a mark on the new machine without any notable AAA Nintendo title

errr...

"As of March 31, 2009, all versions of Nintendo Dogs combined have sold 22.27 million copies worldwide,[4] making it the third best-selling standalone game of all time."

NO NOTABLE AAA NINTENDO TITLE AT LAUNCH ...

.... except a follow up to the third best selling game of all time.

Holy shit.  I didn't realize Nintendogs was so huge.  The update on 3DS is selling poorly by comparison.  Might be time to tone down sales expectations for 3DS.  PSP2 is going to take it out in Japan.  iOS has it beat in America.  Europe in Nintendo's wild card.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Nintendosbooger on April 06, 2011, 12:58:17 AM
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I don't think its doing that well actually... relatively.  Let me find the media create and pal charts for the 3ds stuff.

I don't think it is either - but the idea that Nintendo didn't release a big gun at launch is a huge stretch!

p.s. Gundam 3D sh1ts all over every other game released to date. Pilotwings seems great but i'm already feeling it closing the door on the fun, could have been spectacular if Nintendo actually cared. Ridge gets better and better.



It isn't a stretch. The game - if one can even call it that - is guano and the novelty that fueled the original's success has passed thanks in part to the shameless oversaturation of the genre (Pets!). But that only clarifies the point that 3rd parties have an opportunity to make an unprecedented first impression on a machine that is without a sales-sucking Nintendo title to pull consumers away.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Mrbob on April 06, 2011, 01:07:28 AM
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I don't think its doing that well actually... relatively.  Let me find the media create and pal charts for the 3ds stuff.

I don't think it is either - but the idea that Nintendo didn't release a big gun at launch is a huge stretch!

p.s. Gundam 3D sh1ts all over every other game released to date. Pilotwings seems great but i'm already feeling it closing the door on the fun, could have been spectacular if Nintendo actually cared. Ridge gets better and better.



It isn't a stretch. The game - if one can even call it that - is guano and the novelty that fueled the original's success has passed thanks in part to the shameless oversaturation of the genre (Pets!). But that only clarifies the point that 3rd parties have an opportunity to make an unprecedented first impression on a machine that is without a sales-sucking Nintendo title to pull consumers away.

3rd parties are too busy making games for the PSP2 launch right now. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on April 06, 2011, 01:31:31 AM
I wouldn't worry too much about Nintendogs right now. When the target group for that title can afford a 3DS they'll still pick it up, it's a title that will continue to sell.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on April 06, 2011, 04:00:18 AM
Bah,3DS Lite + price drop+games=win
Machine is too expensive for mainstream,no "must have" game.In Europe DS sold like 46 million,PSP is not even 15 million.3DS is right now in PSP category buyers.

PSP2 will have even greater problems in making people "upgrade".
Why do it?

-graphics...nobody cares
-dual analog...nobody cares

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: T-Short on April 06, 2011, 04:54:40 AM
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2011-04-06-tretton-defends-high-platform-pricing (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2011-04-06-tretton-defends-high-platform-pricing)

http://www.bugmenot.com/view/gamesindustry.biz (http://www.bugmenot.com/view/gamesindustry.biz)

Tretton defends high platform pricing

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SCEA president and CEO Jack Tretton has defended high price points for platform hardware, saying that the quality of a console or handheld is reflected in its pricing.

Speaking in a series of video interviews with Fast Company, Tretton compared the purchase of gaming equipment to other consumer electronics such as iPhones or iPods.

"I think when you're buying a platform, when you're buying technology, you're hopefully buying a device you're going to enjoy for many, many years," Tretton claims.

"People are used to spending several hundreds of dollars to get a portable device. I think in the long run, when you look at that total investment in a platform, the amount of money you spend on the hardware is a relatively small percentage of the total investment.

"It's not to say the price of the platform isn't a consideration, but I don't think price makes or kills a platform. Something that's lousy, that's very inexpensive, is not going to be successful, and something that's pricey will ultimately find its audience if there's enough value there."

The comments would seem to be setting the stage for a relatively high purchase price for Sony's forthcoming NGP handheld
, which Tretton himself postulated could be delayed into a staggered territory release by last month's Japanese earthquake and tsunami disaster.

seems time to get a third job
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: T-Short on April 06, 2011, 05:02:04 AM
paying for potential!

also badass 3D:

(http://i.imgur.com/xPiQg.jpg)

I'LL BE BACK
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on April 06, 2011, 05:26:37 AM
If Apple can do it,so can we!
Some tablet is planned for September apparently.

Western publishers must be excited to invest money in PSP2.Coffee budget or not?!...fuck that,coffee is more important,outsource outsource
 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on April 06, 2011, 05:32:16 AM
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saying that the quality of a console or handheld is reflected in its pricing.

well a new generation console cost a lot,while a ps2 the most awesome console ever,cost nothing so i see nothing wrong with saying that the cheaper the console,the more awesome it is :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 06, 2011, 07:44:44 AM
when they start throwing out feeler comments like that, you know you're looking at $350 or more
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 06, 2011, 12:47:47 PM
Bgr really tore this thing apart. Fnny to see a non gamer perspective.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 06, 2011, 02:02:13 PM
Do you not like vowels?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 06, 2011, 02:14:00 PM
System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year |        YTD |   Last YTD |         LTD |           
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------           
|  PSP  |    58.075 |    51.095 |    39.248 |    642.660 |    717.805 |  17.292.872 |     
|  3DS  |    42.979 |    50.710 |         0 |    835.933 |          0 |     835.933 |     


Down down down

Its like the psp is... rising... rising to... heaven?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Himu on April 06, 2011, 02:28:25 PM
:bow :bow :bow

PSP
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Jabberwocky on April 06, 2011, 03:59:32 PM
Seriously poor 3DS sales in the homeland. Nintendo better not let this crap slide like they did with the Wii. Time to bust out those moneyhats.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Brehvolution on April 06, 2011, 04:09:11 PM
I think there are more important things going on in Japan right now. That could be part of it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on April 06, 2011, 04:14:43 PM
I think there are more important things going on in Japan right now. That could be part of it.

I think the PSP is actually rising in sales

It's probably just because there is nothing on the 3DS yet
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 06, 2011, 04:56:06 PM
I think there are more important things going on in Japan right now. That could be part of it.

I think the PSP is actually rising in sales

It's probably just because there is nothing on the 3DS yet

-3DS has no 3D killer ap
-Price is high
-Earthquake/tsunami/killer radiation cloud has put a damper on things
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Jabberwocky on April 06, 2011, 05:14:08 PM
I think there are more important things going on in Japan right now. That could be part of it.

I think the PSP is actually rising in sales

It's probably just because there is nothing on the 3DS yet

-3DS has no 3D killer ap
-Price is high
-Earthquake/tsunami/killer radiation cloud has put a damper on things

It's got a new Layton and a new Nintendogs, which were both breakaway million selling successes on the OG DS. What more can it have to help sales? Monster Hunter or a new mainline DQ (both of which haven't been announced for the system)?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Jabberwocky on April 06, 2011, 05:16:27 PM
Word filter just freaked with my brain btw
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Third on April 06, 2011, 05:18:49 PM
Good to see this tank. Pretty worthless plastic so far.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 06, 2011, 05:23:35 PM
I think there are more important things going on in Japan right now. That could be part of it.

I think the PSP is actually rising in sales

It's probably just because there is nothing on the 3DS yet

-3DS has no 3D killer ap
-Price is high
-Earthquake/tsunami/killer radiation cloud has put a damper on things

It's got a new Layton and a new Nintendo Dogs, which were both breakaway million selling successes on the OG DS. What more can it have to help sales? Monster Hunter or a new mainline DQ (both of which haven't been announced for the system)?

It needs NEW ORIGINAL COMPELLING software. Not another entry in a long-winded series and an upconverted port/sequel of game that stopped being new and exciting over five years ago.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 06, 2011, 05:28:15 PM
Nintendo dogs doesn't sell because soccer mom who has a pet dog on her nintendo dogs isn't going to shell out $300 just for a new version when her current dog is good enough for her.
Layton sold fine but it sells fewer each game because every game more people realize that Hino writes distinguished mentally-challenged stories and they want to stop giving him money for it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: archie4208 on April 06, 2011, 05:53:57 PM
[youtube=560,345]ColQqZ58uNY[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 06, 2011, 08:32:07 PM
Word filter just freaked with my brain btw

nintendogs?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Vizzys on April 06, 2011, 08:38:40 PM
the forgotten word filter
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Jabberwocky on April 06, 2011, 08:38:50 PM
Word filter just freaked with my brain btw

nintendogs?

I edited it 3 times before realizing it wasn't going to change.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 06, 2011, 11:28:39 PM
Do you not like vowels?

Bgr is a website. I missed one U while typing on an iPad. Stop the presses
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: naff on April 07, 2011, 05:01:13 AM
Wtf? :rofl Thats the strangest word to filter
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on April 07, 2011, 07:01:01 PM
I nearly bought one of these today after trying it out at the store but then when I started to look for a game to buy along with it I couldn't find anything that's worth a damn. 45 bucks for Pilotwings?  Hell fucking no.

I'll check back next year when they actually have games for this.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 07, 2011, 07:12:59 PM
I had the same feeling, then I tried one and now I really don't want it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 07, 2011, 08:41:23 PM
Got mine.  8)

Initial impressions: gaddamn this thing is fucking glossy.  Sometimes its a good thing, but with how self-conscious I am about finger prints, I'm gonna bo super ADD on this bitch.

More on hardware: My hinge is perfect, as is my circle pad.  It's really quite incredible how much Sony fucked up their nub on the PSP after playing with this thing.  Really great analog stick for a portable.  My d-pad is good but its placement is something I'll have to get used to, especially for older DS games.

Cameras are of course hideous, but meh.  The top screen really is quite wonderful, and the 3D works even better after you calibrate the cameras and stuff.  I really like how the text and selection options pop out – I've actually found that I enjoy that more than some of the Mii 3D stuff, heh.  Faceraiders is way too fucking funny, its my favorite built in software.  AR Cards are whatever.

Getting SFIV tomorrow in the mail.  We'll see how I like it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 07, 2011, 08:45:22 PM
I had the same feeling, then I tried one and now I really don't want it.

My feeling too. "Is that it?"
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on April 07, 2011, 10:03:10 PM
I think if I got one given to me I'd enjoy it for a few days then put it away like I did with my DS and  (PSP :`( )

I don't even know if a good range of software would get me interested.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 07, 2011, 10:04:42 PM
I was having trouble having my 3ds turn on today. I had to try to start it like 3 times for it to actually get up to the System Menu. Makes me scared :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: tiesto on April 07, 2011, 11:04:13 PM
I'm a pretty fidgety person so I move around my handhelds a lot... of course with the 3DS, it seems even the slightest bit of movement disrupts the image sending me to headache city... that plus the lack of compelling software makes me want to wait for a hardware revision. Also the NGP really killed a lot of the excitement I had about this, especially if the current trend of PSP amazingness carries over to the new handheld.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
But that $1600 check from the gubmit is certainly burning a hole in my pocket... so who knows? I might pick one up soon.
[close]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: demi on April 07, 2011, 11:07:00 PM
uh, dont get a 3DS just because. wait until after E3 at least.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Raban on April 07, 2011, 11:16:44 PM
uh, dont get a 3DS just because. wait until after E3 at least.

We should delete every post in this thread except this one and lock until after E3.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 07, 2011, 11:18:20 PM
evilbore: will buy any microsoft trash that comes out, insults any other competitors
people with sanity: make educated purchases without a slant
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Trent Dole on April 07, 2011, 11:35:21 PM
uh, dont get a 3DS just because. wait until after E3 at least.

We should delete every post in this thread except this one and lock until after E3.
Seconded.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on April 08, 2011, 12:00:32 AM
What if someone hacks it before e3?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on April 08, 2011, 12:02:16 AM
evilbore: will buy any microsoft trash that comes out, insults any other competitors
people with sanity: make educated purchases without a slant

and neither of these categories will buy 3DS at this point in time
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: originalz on April 08, 2011, 12:22:42 AM
So, Spotpass is definitely compatible with foreign units, been swapping shit from Japanese people when I go outside.  Heh, pretty impressive how I can usually get at least one tag when I go outside, even if I'm just going into a business district or something.  I'm sure I'd have lots of fun if I went to Akihabara.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on April 08, 2011, 12:55:22 AM
xfe isn't just limited to Nintendo and Microsoft, he bought a PSX. If anything he's an equal opportunity trash collector
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 08, 2011, 01:14:18 AM
 :lol

I'm getting SFIV tomorrow.  I'm too awful at the console version and I want to have something fun to play for the next few months until Zelda and Resident Evil come out, so, meh.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on April 08, 2011, 01:18:47 AM
:lol

I'm getting SFIV tomorrow.  I'm too awful at the console version and I want to have something fun to play for the next few months until Zelda and Resident Evil come out, so, meh.

download Command and Conquer, it's freeware now
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on April 08, 2011, 04:06:04 PM
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/34012/Tretton_Platforms_Must_Have_Cutting_Edge_Tech_At_Launch_To_Stay_Relevant.php (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/34012/Tretton_Platforms_Must_Have_Cutting_Edge_Tech_At_Launch_To_Stay_Relevant.php)
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"[Microsoft and Nintendo] are starting to run out of steam now in terms of continuing to be relevant in 2011 and beyond," Tretton said. "I mean, you've gotta be kidding me. Why would I buy a gaming system without a hard drive in it? How does this thing scale? Motion gaming is cute, but if I can only wave my arms six inches, how does this really feel like I'm doing true accurate motion gaming?"

Sony appears to be once again following its cutting-edge tech philosophy with the PSP successor, the codenamed Next Generation Portable. The NGP will have high-end features, including 3G and wi-fi support, a five-inch multi-touch OLED display, a multi-touch pad on the back, dual analog sticks, flash card support for software, motion sensors, built-in GPS and a four-core CPU, among other features.

At least one analyst expects the NGP to cost "at least" $299 in the U.S. When it launches later this year, it will go head-to-head against Nintendo's $250 3DS. Tretton previously said that price doesn't "make or kill a platform" -- the challenge is providing value for consumers.

Tretton also called Nintendo's market-leading handheld consoles a "great babysitting tool," adding that "no self-respecting 20-something is going to be sitting on an airplane with one of those. He's too old for that."


He attacked  xbots,but in this case I approve...he must be reading Evilbore :smug


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Tretton also called Nintendo's market-leading handheld consoles a "great babysitting tool," adding that "no self-respecting 20-something is going to be sitting on an airplane with one of those. He's too old for that."

lolololol




Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Third on April 08, 2011, 05:03:05 PM
He nailed it.  :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Diunx on April 08, 2011, 06:09:40 PM
Brandnew annihilated.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 08, 2011, 07:25:54 PM
I'm not annihilated - for me to be such, I would have to fit his description.  We all know I'm not self-respecting.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 08, 2011, 07:37:52 PM
What a moron. Everybody knows that Nintendo fans don't have any self-respect!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on April 08, 2011, 07:38:46 PM
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"[Microsoft and Nintendo] are starting to run out of steam now in terms of continuing to be relevant in 2011 and beyond,"

If that's his appraisal of them, I wonder what he thinks of Sony's strong performance in 2011 :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Purple Filth on April 08, 2011, 07:41:10 PM
Quote
"[Microsoft and Nintendo] are starting to run out of steam now in terms of continuing to be relevant in 2011 and beyond,"

If that's his appraisal of them, I wonder what he thinks of Sony's strong performance in 2011 :teehee

Year of the PS3
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 08, 2011, 07:46:26 PM
Tretton droppin troof bombs

On the plane, I whip out my Kindle and start reading CTHULHUROTICA
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 08, 2011, 07:53:51 PM
On the plane, I listen to music.  That's it, really.  I never really game outside of my house.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 08, 2011, 08:17:06 PM
Back when I was a kid I remember bringing my GENESIS NOMAD on the plane and plugging in motherfucking VIRTUA RACING. The little kid next to me was playing Game Boy and was like "OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT"
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 08, 2011, 08:17:49 PM
on the plane, i am doped up on alcohol and lithium. no handheld can compete with that full-on immersive 3+nD experience
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 08, 2011, 08:19:06 PM
You're leaving out the part where that kid could play Kirby's Dreamland 2 for the 20 hour plus flight from britain to california and still have plenty of battery life to spare.  Well that was my case anyway, whenever I think of plane rides I think of kirby's dreamland 2.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on April 08, 2011, 08:31:17 PM
On the plane, I listen to music.  That's it, really.  I never really game outside of my house.

lol, pussy. On the plane I shoot niqquaz on my PSP
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on April 08, 2011, 08:43:10 PM
Back when I was a kid I remember bringing my GENESIS NOMAD on the plane and plugging in motherfucking VIRTUA RACING. The little kid next to me was playing Game Boy and was like "OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT"

Back in '94 my family went to Israel.  Long, long flights...multiple stops in Europe to get there.  At the France airport, I broke out my Game Gear, and this kid sitting next to me playing his Gameboy went wide-eyed and said " *GASP* JE GAME JEAR!!!!  WOOOOOooooooowwwwww!!!"  :rofl

Then I hit a store and bought Powerstrike II, which was just awesome. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on April 08, 2011, 10:42:58 PM
Quote
Or they'll both just get destroyed by tablets and smartphones.

You say that like it isn't already happening (or at least starting to happen).
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on April 08, 2011, 11:15:25 PM
On my last trip I played dissidia for ~forty minutes before it got boring.  I spent more time playing ipod touch games.  I spent even more time watching 17 Again (thoroughly entertaining film, btw).
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on April 08, 2011, 11:23:41 PM
don't be silly

they can't both be destroyed until both are released

unless you have a time machine!

in which case let's go fuck our grandmas to mess with the timestream

Sorry thought you meant Sony as a whole, not NGP

And if you're nice you can ride my time machine
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 09, 2011, 12:36:08 AM
You're leaving out the part where that kid could play Kirby's Dreamland 2 for the 20 hour plus flight from britain to california and still have plenty of battery life to spare.  Well that was my case anyway, whenever I think of plane rides I think of kirby's dreamland 2.

I don't care if my battery life was limited, I was playing a motherfucking fully-polygon racing game on a handheld in 1995, AT 30,000 FEET

:bow Sega SVP chipset :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Mrbob on April 09, 2011, 02:07:22 AM
Ghost Recon is a bad ass game.  Really enjoying it.  Can't get the shaking feeling though I'm playing a DS game with a 3D skin on top.  Of course the ironic thing is if Shadow Wars were not moved from DS to 3DS I probably would not have played it so I'm not too mad about the port up. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 09, 2011, 02:40:40 AM
Any sales age reports on the launch yo?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 09, 2011, 03:50:47 AM
I am seriously curious on how this thing is moving, hardware and software-wise. Everywhere I go it's totally in stock. Not sure if that's normal for Nintendo portable hardware at launch.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on April 09, 2011, 04:11:50 AM
The first month of sales aren't going to give much indication anyway. How it's doing in June/July is a bigger story.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on April 09, 2011, 07:28:56 AM
True but Zelda is out in June isn't it?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on April 09, 2011, 07:46:08 AM
Any sales age reports on the launch yo?

First 2 days in UK...113k
Europe(UK included)...303k(4 days,i think)

Nintendo is pretty quiet about sales figures though.Too much money for mainstream i guess,parents with three kids=$750 minimum and everybody today has some mobile phone...hmm

Sony(Tretton) was always vocal like this when things didn't go according to the plan.I guess that year of the PS3 is under-performing.

Year of the 3DS is  under-performing too,but Nintendo losing mainstream gaming influence quickly=hell freezing



Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on April 09, 2011, 10:08:30 AM
True but Zelda is out in June isn't it?

June/July has Zelda, Resident Evil The Mercenaries, Devil Survivor Overclocked, and you might as well add DOA Dimensions since it ships on 5/31.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 09, 2011, 12:27:25 PM

I don't care if my battery life was limited, I was playing a motherfucking fully-polygon racing game on a handheld in 1995, AT 30,000 FEET

:bow Sega SVP chipset :bow2

Word, Nomad was straight pimp.  Since it took standard batteries you could just buy a roll of cheapies at Radioshack and easily play longer than any handheld lets you today.

I bought a Nomad out of a clearance bin at Toys 'R' Us for $50 way back when, and sold it years later with couple of games for (if I remember correctly) around $250

:bow Nomad :bow2

wonder what they're going for nowadays
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 09, 2011, 12:36:23 PM

I don't care if my battery life was limited, I was playing a motherfucking fully-polygon racing game on a handheld in 1995, AT 30,000 FEET

:bow Sega SVP chipset :bow2

Word, Nomad was straight pimp.  Since it took standard batteries you could just buy a roll of cheapies at Radioshack and easily play longer than any handheld lets you today.

I bought a Nomad out of a clearance bin at Toys 'R' Us for $50 way back when, and sold it years later with couple of games for (if I remember correctly) around $250

:bow Nomad :bow2

wonder what they're going for nowadays

I bought a Nomad on Ebay with tons of games around that amount, wonder if that was your nomad?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 09, 2011, 12:52:55 PM
this was years ago, and i only had 3 games packed with it
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Diunx on April 09, 2011, 12:53:27 PM
I would like to think that RE mercenaries isn't gonna sell that much but paying 40 bucks for the mercenaries minigame is something I can see the gaming community doing.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 09, 2011, 01:09:10 PM
this was years ago, and i only had 3 games packed with it

Yeah the one I got had like 50 games some multiple copies of some games for some odd reason.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 09, 2011, 02:52:22 PM
Nomad let me play Phantasy Star IV during boring classes. best console ever
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 09, 2011, 04:16:35 PM
Without exact figures for two of the three major regions, all we can do is speculate, but it's clearly underperforming expectations, possibly by as much as 50%.

Software seems to be doing alright though, I think SSF43D has outshipped any other individual version.  Nintendo Dogs is the big loser.  Can't say I'm upset about that state of affairs.

Not to worry.  When Nintendo releases Pokemon Amethyst and Opal, hardware sales will explode.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 09, 2011, 05:46:54 PM
June for the 3DS is going to be wonderful, AND its my brithday then.  Zelda and RE: Mercenaries, and DOA.  omgggg
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 09, 2011, 06:16:56 PM
Mercenaries is an arcade style game that would lend itself to quick bursts.  If I do get a 3ds it would definitely be a must have for me.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on April 09, 2011, 06:34:11 PM
People who whine about wanting "console games on a console" are idiots.  That doesn't even make sense.  Go play some stupid cell phone games if you want some crap that's over in minutes.

Mercenaries is an arcade style game that would lend itself to quick bursts.  If I do get a 3ds it would definitely be a must have for me.

Yup.  And since RE uses one analog stick anyway, the controls aren't gonna be an issue.  In fact, the game making use of the touch screen for extremely fast weapon-switching might make it better.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 09, 2011, 06:34:47 PM
Quote
Zelda and RE: Mercenaries, and DOA.  omgggg Zelda and RE: Mercenaries, and DOA.  omgggg Zelda and RE: Mercenaries, and DOA.  omgggg Zelda and RE: Mercenaries, and DOA.  omgggg Zelda and RE: Mercenaries, and DOA.  omgggg Zelda and RE: Mercenaries, and DOA.  omgggg

not specifically pointing this at or that you are even saying the following , but i've seen a number of Ninthings say this about 10 posts after they dismiss the NGP with the usual "i want to play console games on a console, not a handheld!" chuff. Hey ho, not sure why anyone would decide to limit their own options with bluster and guff, but that's flag-waving geeks for you.



I want an NGP eventually, it all depends on the games available for it.  If its the standard Sony affair, games that I myself am not into (Killzone, Uncharted, Warhawk, what have you), then I probably won't care to get one for a while.  Now if they get a game like a Kingdom Hearts or a brand new Resident Evil game as well, then I'll be interested.  Don't group me with standard ninthings  :maf
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on April 10, 2011, 03:37:39 AM
Quote
Nintendo’s US liaison on the hunt for studios “with a sense of craftsmanship”, with mixed results.

Nintendo’s Kensuke Tanabe is on the lookout for more developers of the calibre of Retro Studios, who so impressed the Nintendo producer during development of Donkey Kong Country Returns – but admits that too many US game companies are “running a business for business’ sake.”

Retro has been working under Nintendo’s wing for a decade, developing the Metroid Prime series for the firm, before taking on last year’s Donkey Kong reboot. Now Tanabe, who works with Nintendo-affiliated US developers, says he wants to find more studios of a similar standard.

Asked if it was important for Nintendo to strengthen its relationships with foreign developers, Tanabe tells us: “I absolutely believe so. I work with other development partners, such as [Punch Out!! developer] Next Level Games in Vancouver and Monster Studios [of Pilotwings Resort] in Minneapolis.

“And they, much like Retro, really get our development philosophies. I want to find as many people as we can, as many great companies as we can to get involved with. I’m really looking for developers with a sense of craftsmanship.”

That, Tanabe admits, has proven hard to find, with his personal feeling being that “there’s a real increase in the number of companies that look like they’re really running a business for business’ sake. There are many of those certainly within the midst of the gaming industry as a whole, or at least I feel that way.”

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/tanabe-we-need-more-like-retro (http://www.next-gen.biz/news/tanabe-we-need-more-like-retro)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Herr Mafflard on April 10, 2011, 04:58:14 AM
No one wants to make non-shovelware waggle games for Nintendo  :'(. They must lack craftsmanship.

Or they actually want a return on their investments. How dare they - Business for business sake.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on April 10, 2011, 05:00:07 AM
Nintendo wants to find dev studios and cripple then by having to work on outdated hardware.

Retro>Nintendo.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 10, 2011, 05:13:22 AM
I think Nintendo should try again at acquiring western studios. Silicon Knights, Factor 5, Rare, and Left Field were all worth losing, but Monster has put out 4 great games under them, Next Level Games made the best punch out ever, and I think Headstrong could do some solid creative work for them.  These companies understand their platforms very well and make experiences that feel on par with Nintendo's own output.  Well, Headstrong could stand to polish things more, but its usually a time issue.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 10, 2011, 01:31:13 PM
The difficulty is trying to find a quality western studio that wants to work exclusively for Nintendo.  Nintendo is the antithesis of the past decade of western gaming design.  Even developers facing bankruptcy would rather go insolvent than work on the Wii.  To get them to only work for Nintendo is a tall order, which is why they previously relied on low or unproven quality development studios like Left Field.  Also given that Nintendo's relationships with third parties are often defined with an undercurrent of hostility, you're not going to find a AAA developer that will be forced to pump out Nintendogs or Kid Icarus sequels and that is it.

The best thing Nintendo can do is hope that the studio that works on Ubi Petz or My Little Pony DS is willing to go rogue and work for Nintendo.  That Nintendo could attempt to cultivate them and turn shit into gold.  That is pretty much their only option.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on April 10, 2011, 02:40:23 PM
Nintendo consoles are like handhelds in the eyes of big Western developers,barely anyone takes them seriously.

Ninthings always argue that Nintendo games are soo good that third party cannot compete even in wildest dreams,but reality is a bit more complicated.

Nintendo has some kiddy stigma attached to them,maybe unfair maybe not but Nintendo is fully embracing that(kids friendly machine,approving anything that has potential to bring $$$).Big Western devs treat it like that,target audience=5 year old kids(or people that have no clue about gaming).As said above even developers facing bankruptcy would rather go insolvent than work on the Wii...that tells a lot

But even more importantly audience is treating it like that,want to play GTA,Halo,MW,RDR,Bioshock,Mass Effect,Assassins Creed,Bayonetta,Crysis 2,etc like games buy anything except Nintendo...even dirt on the road is more useful for that purpose than Nintendo console
What kind of lunatic would buy next-gen Nintendo console in hope to play those games?

Two things that are biggest stumbling blocs for Nintendo

-archaic online system
-reptilian age hardware

They can fix those things with money,but do they really want to?
Imagine a world were Nintendo console fills the headlines as "shooter box,mass murder simulator,violence inducing console,sex sex sex"
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 10, 2011, 02:41:45 PM
2D Rabbids Platformer is out today. Any good?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: archie4208 on April 10, 2011, 02:48:29 PM
Imagine a world were Nintendo console fills the headlines as "shooter box,mass murder simulator,violence inducing console,sex sex sex"

I could have Mario shoot people in the head and fuck Peach?  Sounds like my dream console.  :'(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on April 10, 2011, 08:01:24 PM
Imagine a world were Nintendo console fills the headlines as "shooter box,mass murder simulator,violence inducing console,sex sex sex"

I could have Mario shoot people in the head and fuck Peach?  Sounds like my dream console.  :'(

Well the best we got is this peach platformet where goombas and koopa fucks her.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on April 10, 2011, 11:38:48 PM
"the 3DS is a reptilian platform"
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vwbBDg1u1nQ/ShwJZquajfI/AAAAAAAAC2o/_cMA5qWSvmA/s400/Mike-Tyson.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 11, 2011, 07:54:45 AM
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/archive/index_test.jsp&ct=110032&arch=t&lyr=2011&year=2011&week=14

No games in the top 40 doesn't bode well. And yeah, I'm pretty sure of it now- this is apple's market.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on April 11, 2011, 10:42:14 AM
It's true that it doesn't take much to enter UK weekly top 40,something like one or two thousands units or even less...10k should be enough to get in top 10
People have to remember that 3DS is competing with multi-million userbase platforms.But this shows that 3DS weekly hardware sales are not high.

If 3DS underperforms during the holidays or when Nintendo releases cheaper 3DS Lite then you can stick a fork into it.

Machine is expensive and typical Nintendo audience is not biting,yet

It will be interesting to see what NPD says,if we are that lucky







 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 11, 2011, 11:44:13 AM
Nintendo wants to find dev studios and cripple then by having to work on outdated hardware.

Retro>Nintendo.

Actually...

Working as a Nintendo third-party studio would guarantee the following:

1. A manageable team size and budget (aka don't have to fire 50 environment artists once the project's over)
2. A guaranteed marketing budget and push
3. Really intense hands-on gameplay support from Nintendo designers (this could be good and bad though)

That sounds like a pretty sweet deal to anyone running an independent dev house these days.

I don't know how royalties would work for second parties (royalties hardly amount to anything in the industry for 95% of the projects, anyway).
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 11, 2011, 10:12:25 PM

2. A guaranteed marketing budget and push


Naw, much to my cha... chu... chragri... dismay, at times they throw great games out there like Excitebots with next to no marketing.  It had no tv or print ads and hell I don't even remember web ads either.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 11, 2011, 10:25:54 PM
ok, it's already getting dusty...going back to amazon. 

<3 30 day no questions return policy

here's what I did:
--love 3d pics
--played some SFIV (sucks) and Samurai Warriors (awesome)
--played some DS flash cart
--used the pedometer a few times


i will wait until it's cheaper used and has more games.  3d pics in 620x480 doesn't quite justify the price.

i do this with every system (try it out and return) cause i have to see new hardware...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 11, 2011, 10:44:31 PM
Quote
--played some SFIV (sucks) and Samurai Warriors (awesome)
(http://www.nataliedee.com/102605/i-said-what.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on April 11, 2011, 11:11:02 PM
whoa, what? you can return to Amazon and get full price?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on April 11, 2011, 11:24:44 PM
Watched a friend play with the SFIV street pass function on the weekend, is it lame that I consider this the most interesting part of the device?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on April 12, 2011, 12:01:58 AM
Quote
--played some SFIV (sucks) and Samurai Warriors (awesome)
(http://www.nataliedee.com/102605/i-said-what.jpg)

again, classic Nintard. It's the first street fighter game you've ever played so it's amazing
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Himu on April 12, 2011, 12:29:08 AM
samurai warriors looks like hot cum
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 12, 2011, 12:36:12 AM
Quote
--played some SFIV (sucks) and Samurai Warriors (awesome)
(http://www.nataliedee.com/102605/i-said-what.jpg)

again, classic Nintard. It's the first street fighter game you've ever played so it's amazing

It is not!  I played Street Fighter 3 all the fucking time at my local roller rink whenever our school had skate days.  I had played SFIV a few times on my friend's PS3, but I didn't really plan on buying it for my 360 because I'm just shitty at fighting games.  I'm guess using this game to get back into figthers.  Let me get back into it whichever way I want :(

And besides, the online play automatically makes this the best handheld fighter evar.  so shut up
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 12, 2011, 12:40:03 AM
samurai warriors looks like hot cum

If you're playing DW7 it'll feel like a slap in the face
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on April 12, 2011, 06:11:06 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/e2wyw.png)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on April 12, 2011, 08:53:41 AM
I wish this fake rumor is true,just to see ninthings changing tune about iphone models

Quote
"At GDC, we heard reference to Nintendo's "Project Butterfly", the intended succesor to the Wii. No specs were given, though the hardware is designed to be physically upgraded over time. As it was explained to us, by plugging in new parts it 'becomes' a new machine. It will be marketed as the antidote to Apple's yearly redesigns. One machine, for life."

gaf has appropriate pic

(http://i.imgur.com/yZOXt.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: demi on April 12, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
A June 19 launch date has been set for The Legend of Zelda™: Ocarina of Time™ 3D, a re-mastered edition of one of the most acclaimed installments in The Legend of Zelda series, created exclusively for the Nintendo 3DS system

The game will also feature new challenges not included in the original game. The Legend of Zelda veterans can look forward to the Master Quest – a second quest with revamped puzzles and redesigned dungeons that feature the same graphical and interface upgrades as the main game.



NIS America, Inc. Cave Story 3D June 28

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 12, 2011, 07:50:21 PM
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/archive/index_test.jsp&ct=110032&arch=t&lyr=2011&year=2011&week=14

No games in the top 40 doesn't bode well. And yeah, I'm pretty sure of it now- this is apple's market.

The 3DS doesn't have shit for the launch.  Nothing that compels people (outside of the hardcore Nintard/collector nerd sets) to spend $250 + $40+ for a 3DS and a game.  It is just that simple.  It isn't like 3D is a novelty either.  It seems like every major movie released in the past few months has a 3D version and this summer will be crammed full of 3D movie options.  The 3D appeal would have been fantastic a year ago on the cusp of Avatar but it isn't anything special, not $250 special anyway.

Although as I said before, Nintendo just has to release a couple of Pokemon games and they will be golden
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 12, 2011, 08:09:09 PM
I don't like people who want to claim there's nothing compelling.  Its a nice variety of stuff with a few good gems.  We are witnessing a perception shift from full priced portable games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on April 13, 2011, 01:15:45 AM
A port of Star Fox 64, super compelling
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on April 13, 2011, 02:14:14 AM
Games have a part.  It's not so much that it doesn't have quality games, but they're games you've most likely already played unless you're the most stringent nintendo wackjob.  And I feel like the excuse of "well now I can play it on the go" is less relevant when (I'm apologizing in advance for this) the iphone is the thing a lot of people are playing on the go.  Ridge Racer isn't compelling when I basically have the same thing on the PSP, or I could go out and buy Ridge Racer 2 for PSP for $5 as opposed to the $40 for Ridge Racer 3DS.

In general I don't think launches mean a lot because the DS has a terrible one and the PSP had an excellent one.  But yeah, dropping $250 for a device I don't need and $40 for games I basically already own doesn't sound like I'm spending money wisely.

So far the 3DS is probably the worst gaming hardware I've had since, um, it might actually be the worst.  It's there with the PS3 for me, except I'm not playing the previous console games in better quality, so that lowers it.  Both were bought for future potential.  It's probably going to remain untouched for another two months, and then I'm going to play an N64 port.  At that point it might surpass the PS3!

This is all very personal, btw.  The hardware isn't bad, the games aren't bad, or anything like that.  I just don't have a reason to use it ergo it's useless and stupid and dumb.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 13, 2011, 02:16:18 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/zvkbY.png)

dat new artwork
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MCD on April 13, 2011, 03:04:57 AM
tl;dr where is my 3DSTT.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Oblivion on April 13, 2011, 03:05:01 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/e2wyw.png)

I can't believe Nintendo actually outsourced development for this remake.  :-\
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 13, 2011, 03:09:40 AM
To be honest, that's probably a good thing.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on April 13, 2011, 03:50:55 AM
I don't see anything bad with outsourcing some old game if the primary objective is just to make it run on 3DS.

Zelda artwork is hot,imagine how it would look on 360... RDR :drool

Hopefully next Nintendo console addresses that issue and turns ninthings into hd lovers.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Raban on April 13, 2011, 04:11:46 AM
To be honest, that's probably a good thing.

How much did it hurt to type this?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: demi on April 13, 2011, 08:58:46 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/zvkbY.png)

dat new artwork

Looks like shitty fanart...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 13, 2011, 05:55:27 PM
To be honest, that's probably a good thing.

How much did it hurt to type this?

it doesn't hurt at all.  Some of the best Zelda games are the ones handled by outside development teams, and jesus, this game already came out 13 years ago.  It's pretty hard to fuck it up.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Corporal on April 13, 2011, 06:08:47 PM
Links Awakening :bow2

Minish Cap  :)

repeat spelunking through the central dungeon of supreme boredom :piss2
driving around on a train :piss2 :piss2

I'd say the track record shows that at least on portables Nintendo can't even hope to reach 3rd party dev levels of Zelda goodness.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Oracle games = wildcard, haven't played them but consensus appears to be that they're at least good.
[close]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 13, 2011, 06:23:01 PM
A port of Star Fox 64, super compelling

I'm talking about how consumers would perceive it if variety was their chief concern.  You have a flying simulator, a racing game, samurai beat em up, street fighter, submarine thing, virtual pet, war tactics game,  etc.   As far as I'm concerned there is something for everyone.  The chart prescence does indicate something isn't geling though, and I would bet its the game prices.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 13, 2011, 06:36:22 PM
Nintendo is content to continue rehashing business strategies, from selling slightly updated ports as killer aps to handicapping third party developers with their poor hardware. Luckily for them those strategies maximize profit, but in the long term I'm not sure they're going to position Nintendo to dominate much of anything. Apple seems like they can usurp the "casual" throne quite effortlessly, and Nintendo finds themselves peddling toys instead of the life style product they envision.

Nintendo has yet to really show developers the true potential of the Wii. Instead we've gotten a house of drag and point gimmicks from the Wii, and a complete abandonment of the DS' features, with the touch screen becoming little more than a map or inventory tool.

Meanwhile Microsoft targeted their audience, gave them what they wanted, and are seeing explosive continual growth. Sony is following the blueprint and seeing success. And the Wii trods along aimlessly with games that came out months or even years ago topping the charts. HDTV markets are increasing, gaming is growing, and Nintendo doesn't have a horse in the race. The 3DS seems like a half hearted attempt at giving hardcore some purdy graphics while giving casuals a gimmick they can whip out every Thanksgiving or Christmas, but I doubt it'll work in the long run. And the WiiHD will have a similar fate, as developers clearly have more important things to do than recreate games they could have made 2-3 years ago.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 13, 2011, 06:39:11 PM
Links Awakening :bow2

Minish Cap  :)

repeat spelunking through the central dungeon of supreme boredom :piss2
driving around on a train :piss2 :piss2

I'd say the track record shows that at least on portables Nintendo can't even hope to reach 3rd party dev levels of Zelda goodness.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Oracle games = wildcard, haven't played them but consensus appears to be that they're at least good.
[close]

The Oracle games are the best!  :o  Play them now!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 13, 2011, 11:00:08 PM
Hai guys

Here, have a $40 3DS game for $.99

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/asphalt-6-adrenaline/id400973408?mt=8 (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/asphalt-6-adrenaline/id400973408?mt=8)

Enjoy higher resolution, even on a 3GS
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Beezy on April 14, 2011, 12:44:28 AM
It's crazy how someone could easily mistake you for a person that plays video games, PD.
:lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 14, 2011, 03:36:22 AM
Notice I didn't say Asphalt was -good-

While I'm at it, here's another $39.99 game for $2.99, with more levels and content than the 3DS version. PLEASE TO ENJOY

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/super-monkey-ball-2/id340056794?mt=8 (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/super-monkey-ball-2/id340056794?mt=8)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: naff on April 14, 2011, 04:23:50 AM
dat new artwork

Epona looks like my little pony; GAFtards rejoice
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 14, 2011, 10:27:14 AM
Notice I didn't say Asphalt was -good-

While I'm at it, here's another $39.99 game for $2.99, with more levels and content than the 3DS version. PLEASE TO ENJOY

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/super-monkey-ball-2/id340056794?mt=8 (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/super-monkey-ball-2/id340056794?mt=8)

As I've said, terrible terrible tilt controls on this one.  Sorry sho nuff.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MCD on April 14, 2011, 10:40:24 AM
Please do not post iTunes links.

It is against the rules.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on April 19, 2011, 10:52:05 PM
has anyone seen the new screens of Zelda 3ds? ignoring the n64 port jokes (some screens, not posted, look like nice technical improvements) they decided to change the design of hyrule to candyland

(http://i.imgur.com/tCwoW.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/gZZWf.png)

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 19, 2011, 10:59:24 PM
Looks...like Zelda  ???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on April 19, 2011, 11:07:00 PM
If I may draw your attention to the screens on the left, those are from Zelda Ocarina of Time on the N64.  The ones on the right are from Zelda 3DS.  Difficult to tell apart, I know, but the takeaway is how much more saturated and fanciful the 3DS version is.  Ain't no one getting the bubonic plague in the right pictures.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: iconoclast on April 19, 2011, 11:22:42 PM
Well, that looks terrible. Seems like they really messed up the art and mood of the world.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MCD on April 19, 2011, 11:26:59 PM
Looks loads better.

Art and mood my ass.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 19, 2011, 11:27:26 PM
Looks loads better.

Art and mood my ass.

thank you.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 20, 2011, 03:00:27 AM
I never played OoT for more than an hour, so all these changes, no matter how subtle to everyone who played every iteration since 98, is much welcomed.

What I'm trying to say is that the screens on the right > left.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on April 20, 2011, 05:35:30 AM
Well, that looks terrible. Seems like they really messed up the art and mood of the world.

it just looks more bright,maybe they are thinking of removing the backlight option from the next iteration of 3DS :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Oblivion on April 20, 2011, 07:44:13 AM
Overall, I'm not a huge fan of the new color scheme. Though there are definitely some areas that do look better, like with Castletown (I don't remember the colors being so washed out in the original).

I love OoT and all, but this re-make is a tad disappointing. The 3DS has triple the RAM of the GC, yet the grass textures are marginally better than what they were in Twilight Princess. B- effort, sadly. Nintendo should have done this bitch in-house.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: originalz on April 21, 2011, 04:00:14 AM
Likely just trying to give a better contrast between past and future worlds, I'm sure Hyrule won't look so cheerful once you turn into adult Link.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Diunx on April 21, 2011, 11:08:31 AM
Holy fuck dude! Spoiler that shit!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on April 21, 2011, 11:12:45 AM
GAME RUINED FOREVER!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: demi on April 21, 2011, 11:30:04 AM
First 3DSWare game announced: A pre-alpha-beta-hyper demo of MML3 - lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on April 21, 2011, 11:37:49 AM
it's kinda ballsy of them to add a new main character,normaly i would be ok with this but it seems stupid to do so with a series that hasn't been around since... (check wikipedia's) 10 years,actualy twice as stupid when i think they had a contest to decide how the new heroine looked and now they are pulling characters out of their ass,guess they got enough media attention :lol

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIVwhQsUdWA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Diunx on April 21, 2011, 07:02:26 PM
First 3DSWare game announced: A pre-alpha-beta-hyper demo of MML3 - lol

:bow Nintendo :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on April 21, 2011, 09:52:30 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13waqYSKZAY[/youtube]

Is thsi the first not really rpg game i will be playign in a long time, i think so.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Trent Dole on April 21, 2011, 10:53:17 PM
Love how you don't even play as Rock/Mega apparently...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on April 21, 2011, 11:08:36 PM
I dont really care the gameplay looks fun.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on April 25, 2011, 03:06:27 PM
[youtube=560,345]aL0qrCqX57A[/youtube]

definitely the coolest feature about the 3DS

I mean, the PSP2, iPhone and iPad can do it too, but it's still neat.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 25, 2011, 09:14:30 PM
I know.

I've only been able to use it with face riders and AR cards and it has been one of the jankiest features on the system, I really hope it was due to poor implementation rather than a reflection of the quality of the gyro, because the accuracy was horrid. Also, whoever thought that combining gyro + 3D + AR (through that shitty camera) was a good idea needs to be fired.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Mrbob on April 26, 2011, 01:50:23 AM
How is using the gyroscope as a camera going to be useful?  The 3D vision window is so tiny that any movements to the left or right is going to lead to blurriness. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on May 12, 2011, 02:24:42 PM
[youtube=560,345]-WNJHCgvmJo[/youtube]

Master Quest mode is slightly changed in the 3DS version.  There is double damage and the entire game is mirrored (on top of the additional changes from the old Master Quest).

That, a boss rush mode, changes to the water temple and new statues around the world are the new content.  The new statues essentially give you visions of where to find heart pieces; they're more to help the player than an additional collectable.

actually, the new stones sound like they generally tell you what to do next if you're lost.  At least they seem to be described as a guide on gaf.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Beezy on May 12, 2011, 02:36:51 PM
Don't tell me they pussified the water temple...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on May 12, 2011, 02:40:01 PM
no,you can now switch out of iron boots without going to the menu

yes,that's what count as a big change when talking about a lame port
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 12, 2011, 02:40:44 PM
As far as I know they just made the paths to the water-rising points easier to find using colored linings in the walls or something.  That and some of the doors signify when to be entered and when to avoid until later.

Temple was easy anyway.

also, should be said again, magus you don't know what you're talking about
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on May 12, 2011, 03:04:01 PM
Quote
Eiji Aonuma explained about the remake that "You know the Water Temple? Who thought it was tough or even horrible? I've lived with that for the last ten odd years. But with the 3DS we have a touch screen. You had to take off and on the iron boots constantly, right? So I'd like to lay the evil shame to rest, and add a feature to make the iron boots' control much easier," showing that the controls and panels will be redone

right as a button!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 12, 2011, 03:52:31 PM
...that's not what I'm referring to.  You only picked one improvement of the game's overall design and called it the only worthwhile change for the remake.  Yet you conveniently forget the other things they changed for the Water Temple, as well as the game overall.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 12, 2011, 04:01:22 PM
No offense but it's still a lazy port.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 12, 2011, 04:14:29 PM
Oh I agree.  If they didn't rush this, they could've really done some cool things with the game's sound design, temples, and general plotline.  I think they saw the positive reaction from last E3 and decided to fast track it for a quick release, taking the "it's already perfect!" viewpoint.

I'm buying it because I'd be crazy not to, as a Zelda fan.  I know I'll love it.  But yeah, I generally agree.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: naff on May 12, 2011, 07:22:20 PM
I'm buying it because I'd be crazy not to, as a Zelda fan.  I know I'll love it.  But yeah, I generally agree.

If you want to support Nintendo feeding you more lazy ports of your favourite franchise in the future then yeah, I can see the logic in this statement
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 12, 2011, 07:23:14 PM
I buy zelda games, shocker!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on May 12, 2011, 07:24:04 PM
you got owned
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: naff on May 12, 2011, 07:28:28 PM
wtf, BN you're really dumb sometimes
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 12, 2011, 07:32:28 PM
wow BN might have just beat me for stupidest poster  :lol :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 12, 2011, 07:35:03 PM
but then you'll be good at nothing, methodis :-(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 12, 2011, 07:41:33 PM
Okay, I'm dumb if I want the game, that's cool.  I like the game, I want it for my 3DS, I'm getting it cheap anyway, so I won't regret it. *shrugs*

Also this would lead to them revisiting Majora's Mask :drool
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: naff on May 12, 2011, 08:09:19 PM
No, I was commenting on your OMG MUST BUY COZ AHM A ZELDA cigarillo statement. Well I buy Zelda games too! And idc if you buy this remake, it's just stupid to say that since you're a Zelda fan you're crazy not to buy this, when really, if anything, crap like this being successful is more harmful to the progression of the series than good.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on May 12, 2011, 08:27:59 PM
I'd buy it if I had a 3DS, I mean I don't have any other version of the game so may as well (<-- this is the hypothetical 3DS-owning version of me speaking)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: naff on May 12, 2011, 08:51:38 PM
I'm buying OOT cause thats my favorite game of all time and I'd love to play it inn a portable console with better graphics, and play through the masterquest. Buy another call of duty which is the same game every year for the last 4 years, cool. Buy an enchanced port of 13 year old game with added features, loco.

As if every iteration in the Zelda series doesn't follow the same logic as iterations in CoD or Final Fantasy* Madden or Mario, minor variations in gameplay and a change in setting, all these series are becoming pretty creatively bankrupt these days imo. Anyway, I wasn't saying it's dumb to buy the OoT remake, just BN's choice of rhetoric, you're crazy if you're a Zelda fan and you don't buy this remake Wrath

*FF has actually taken some pretty big leaps for the series in game design with it's previous 2 games (12 and 13). FF :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on May 13, 2011, 04:33:38 AM
are the review coming soon? i want to read how awesomely perfect it's the "DUUUUUHHHHHH DUUUUUUHHHHH DUUUUUUUHHHH" music,how awesome emptily is the hyrule field and how hard and challenging the "hit switch with boomerang" puzzles are

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/cGxgi.gif?t=1305275494) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/cGxgi.gif?t=1305275494) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/cGxgi.gif?t=1305275494) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/cGxgi.gif?t=1305275494) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/cGxgi.gif?t=1305275494) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/cGxgi.gif?t=1305275494) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/cGxgi.gif?t=1305275494) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/cGxgi.gif?t=1305275494) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/cGxgi.gif?t=1305275494) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/cGxgi.gif?t=1305275494) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/cGxgi.gif?t=1305275494) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/cGxgi.gif?t=1305275494) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/cGxgi.gif?t=1305275494) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/cGxgi.gif?t=1305275494)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Oblivion on May 13, 2011, 04:44:26 AM
(http://i54.tinypic.com/102ju49.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on May 13, 2011, 05:04:46 AM
Someone translate?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on May 13, 2011, 05:10:37 AM
Quote
Graphics

+ impressive 3d effect
+ pretty light effects
+ loveable characters (complete with funny facial expressions)

Sound

+ familiar (grandiose) themes
+ very rich in variety
+ typical Zelda jingles and sound effects

Pros and Cons

+ long playtime
+ many side quests
+ varied dungeons and boss battles
+ perfect use of the touch screen
+ partial motion control (camera)
+ contains the unlockable master quest
+ the prettiest 3DS game to date

Bottom Line
brilliant remake of one of the most brilliant games of all time

(http://geekent.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/flanders.jpg)

brilliant brilliandiddleycy
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on May 13, 2011, 08:35:36 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAOrRKrEgYk&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 13, 2011, 08:50:28 AM
Terribad ad.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on May 13, 2011, 09:08:22 AM
It's the same fucking game. If original got 10/10 this shouldn't score much lower.

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/040908_sonic_obs4--article_image.jpg?t=1305292067)

man i can't wait for when we will be able to finaly slap an 8 to ocarina without the fear of a jihad :bow
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on May 13, 2011, 09:12:24 AM
Thanks.  So i guess they didnt really change anything?  The overworld was boring as shit.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on May 13, 2011, 09:30:53 AM
Terribad ad.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sayWtvwZfwk[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on May 13, 2011, 09:43:39 AM
See that ad makes me want to hurt somebody.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on May 13, 2011, 10:11:23 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvaN4D7AI7I[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 14, 2011, 04:38:13 AM
dat ad
dat pantsu
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on May 18, 2011, 11:38:30 PM
DOA Dimensions is out in Europe and Japan now.

I've read it's 60FPS online in 2D mode!  :hyper
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on May 19, 2011, 08:42:15 AM
You only have eight starting characters and have to unlock the rest by going through the stupid Chronicle mode.   :-\
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: demi on May 19, 2011, 09:16:00 AM
> lyte buys little dolls but gets upset that he has to actually play with them
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 19, 2011, 09:32:18 AM
I love unlocking stuff :hyper
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 19, 2011, 11:05:18 AM
Is the difficulty set to insane like DOA4's? Because fuck that game's AI.

I'm an old man, I don't have the skills of supergamer Demi  :-\
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: iconoclast on May 19, 2011, 12:05:34 PM
It's a Hayashi game, so odds are it's just an easier version of a superior Itagaki game.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MCD on May 19, 2011, 12:50:43 PM
DOA4 wasn't hard unless you were playing survival.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: iconoclast on May 19, 2011, 01:31:03 PM
True. Getting to 90+ wins in survival gets the blood pumping since the computer can violate you at any moment with 30% damage counters, right before the finish line.

Game is responsible for lots of rage.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on May 19, 2011, 01:34:57 PM
god first people bitch cuz they have too little to play

now people bitch cuz they have too much to play

make up your minds, princesses

Having to unlock characters in fighting games is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.  The whole point of these games is multiplayer, and yet to fully-enjoy the game, first you have to...play the game in single player?   ??? :yuck  This is a practice that has largely died out over the last few years, and for good reason.

But it sounds like characters unlock pretty quickly.  Apparently you can get them from just playing arcade mode, too.

> lyte buys little dolls but gets upset that he has to actually play with them

I bet the photo mode is unlocked from the start!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on May 19, 2011, 01:37:11 PM
i like unlocking characters,if there is no prize for playing into single player then there is no reason to play single player at all
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on May 19, 2011, 03:23:16 PM
i like unlocking characters,if there is no prize for playing into single player then there is no reason to play single player at all


There's the stupid story mode and outfits n' crap to unlock for single player.

But this is a fighting game; single player isn't the point and online is available.

This is also the first DOA game where you have to unlock most of the cast BTW.  I think the older games had like 1-2 "hidden" characters.  If you're going for single player content, forcing the player to unlock characters makes for a shitty (and sometimes tedious) way of artificially-extending the single player play time.  Put in something WORTHWHILE for single player.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: maxy on May 20, 2011, 08:29:40 AM
Quote
US gamers are reportedly furious at Nintendo's privacy terms and conditions for 3DS.

That's according to a report in Metro, that said Nintendo legally owns all users' content - including messages, information and images. It also logs personal data such as names, ages and addresses.

According to the paper, angry 3DS owners are sending cardboard bricks to Nintendo in protest.

Yet what the article doesn't reveal is that this data policy only affects North America. EU law forbids Nintendo from having the rights to user content.

A spokesperson told MCV: Nintendo would like to reassure any concerned consumers that under our European terms and conditions and in compliance with European requirements Nintendo does not have rights to user content, such as comments, messages, images, photos or movies, which are shared in private communications between users or simply stored on Nintendo 3DS."

The platform holder also said that it is committed to looking after its users' privacy settings.

The spokesperson added: "Nintendo is committed to creating and maintaining a safe and reliable entertainment experience for our users. We are transparent about our practices, and we are committed to protecting our users' privacy and respecting intellectual property laws.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/44417/US-Gamers-angry-over-3DS-terms (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/44417/US-Gamers-angry-over-3DS-terms)

hahaha

US :piss2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: demi on May 20, 2011, 10:06:08 AM
Lyte you are so thick headed. Nothing wrong with SP. I want to play SP to get a feel for the characters, before choosing one I want to enter online. If I get my ass beat, so be it. I will learn from there.

Fuck your elitist attitude. Goddam.

Tekken 6 single player :bow
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on May 20, 2011, 10:16:49 AM
i posted that thing about cardboard brick in the random gaming thread

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=33514.msg1315740#msg1315740

as i said nobody got their DS bricked so it would be like me getting angry at shah rukh khan saying he will gut me out

coincidentaly the whole thing is translated into italian and spanish... know what are the two european country where piracy is the biggest?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on May 20, 2011, 12:05:43 PM
Lyte you are so thick headed. Nothing wrong with SP. I want to play SP to get a feel for the characters, before choosing one I want to enter online. If I get my ass beat, so be it. I will learn from there.

Fuck your elitist attitude. Goddam.

Tekken 6 single player :bow

Way to not get my point.   :lol  I'm just bitching about having to unlock the characters.  Kinda hard to get a feel for them when they aren't available!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: iconoclast on May 20, 2011, 02:33:02 PM
DOA needs to get with the times. Instead of unlockable characters, it should have unlockable costume pieces that you can use to customize your character, like in Virtua Fighter, Tekken, and SoulCalibur. Hopefully they're saving that for DOA5.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on May 20, 2011, 04:08:47 PM
(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/hatima/imgs/a/1/a11d2b19-s.jpg)

THE DREAM LIVES ON
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 20, 2011, 11:36:29 PM
I realized I haven't touched my 3DS since the first 4 days after it came out.   :-\
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 20, 2011, 11:53:37 PM
lol same. The games I ended up picking are actually pretty good, but they're simply not that high on my list.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on May 21, 2011, 12:59:55 AM
yeah, mine has been sitting in a case since the first week.  Can't wait to use it again in a month to play a game from thirteen years ago.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Oblivion on May 21, 2011, 01:12:45 AM
http://ds.ign.com/articles/116/1169820p1.html

 :o
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 21, 2011, 01:46:04 AM
yeah, mine has been sitting in a case since the first week.  Can't wait to use it again in a month to play a game from thirteen years ago.

:hyper
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on May 21, 2011, 05:04:36 AM
So i guess there is no psp emus either, only people in japan care about it :/ 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on May 21, 2011, 10:10:49 AM
Any emus of this thing yet?

no, emus only come for systems people care about

Why is there a Wii one then?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: demi on May 21, 2011, 10:17:03 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
It doesnt emulate Wii, it emulates Gamecube
[close]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: pilonv1 on May 21, 2011, 10:22:35 AM
Good point
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 21, 2011, 11:05:44 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
It doesnt emulate Wii, it emulates Gamecube
[close]

 :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 22, 2011, 06:30:18 PM
Jesus fuck , why do i have two 3DS's again?



i had two at one point, too! sold the one intended for me to maf within a week of purchasing it, haw.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on May 22, 2011, 07:48:12 PM
Yeah region locking ruins us. :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MCD on May 23, 2011, 02:06:23 AM
I should have listened to my inner self and not bothered with the Japanese unit and just went full on honky only.

I bought the wife one as well. I have the unremovable stain of having bought three 3DS :/

I've sat curled up in the shower and no matter how hard i scrub, i still feel dirty and violated.

You can be healed with a Windows Phone.

Get yours now!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on May 23, 2011, 03:07:00 AM
Yeah, kick him when he's down.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: MCD on May 23, 2011, 03:08:50 AM
It's a brotherly kick.

You would never understand.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on May 24, 2011, 07:31:17 PM
So Shinobi is coming to the 3ds.  Shame it is probably going to be 3d.  Even if it is 2d it is probably going to be garbage because it is being made by Griptonite Studios.

http://www.linkedin.com/in/brandenbrushett
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on May 24, 2011, 08:01:48 PM
a) the 3d shinobi for ps2 is fucking awesome
b) griptonite has made many great games on the ds
c) almost all of the company's games for the DS and 3DS are 3D graphics with 2D gameplay (2.5D or w/e)

the only weak link is the 3DS. and Sega, but mostly the 3DS.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
they did make the crummy ass creed psp game, though
[close]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 24, 2011, 08:29:51 PM
There's a lot of factors that go into it, i.e. budget, whether or not Sega gives enough of a shit to give them enough time/money, etc. Griptonite has made some good stuff.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 24, 2011, 08:32:45 PM
BTW I got to play some DoA today on a friend's 3DS. God that hardware is a total turd sandwich. The game was struggling to hold 30fps in 3D mode and barely hit 15fps during the pre-match cutscenes, FFS. D-pad is also a pile of suck and DAT BUTTONS, ugh. Would buy for $99, maybe. I seriously cannot believe how much they're charging.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on May 24, 2011, 08:33:28 PM
Really?  I stand corrected.  All I saw from the wiki is a bunch of movie IP's.

EDIT:  The buttons really that bad?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: iconoclast on May 24, 2011, 09:33:58 PM
best case scenario: Itagaki & co. smartened up and cancelled Devil's Turd and is now working with Sega on bringing Shinobi back.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 24, 2011, 09:54:55 PM
Oh shit that's right. They debuted that game WAY too early. No idea what they were thinking.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on May 24, 2011, 09:57:02 PM
BTW I got to play some DoA today on a friend's 3DS. God that hardware is a total turd sandwich. The game was struggling to hold 30fps in 3D mode and barely hit 15fps during the pre-match cutscenes, FFS. D-pad is also a pile of suck and DAT BUTTONS, ugh. Would buy for $99, maybe. I seriously cannot believe how much they're charging.

Why did you play DOA with 3D on?  It's 60FPS with that slider down

The game is pretty good.  I was also able to unlock all the normal characters in about 12 minutes, by clearing all six arcade courses.  Online is okay (worldwide =  :lol, region = not bad, game play doesn't suffer even with a little lag), but there's no rematch option which totally sucks.

But the game is, for obvious reasons, a hell of a lot more comfortable to play than SSF4 is.  It's fun, but SSF4 3D Edition is still the better game.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 24, 2011, 10:25:50 PM
D-pad is also a pile of suck and DAT BUTTONS, ugh.

- Whoever says the d-pad is a major improvement over the ones in previous DS iterations OR actively believes that "Capcom was consulted and it shows" is on crack. The differences are so fucking minute, and the thought that they were a product of conscious decisions and research is depressing.
- Clicky buttons are still horrible and don't lend themselves to a genre as demanding as fighters.

Now, sure, SSFIV ended up being awesome, but that's a testament to the product's quality rather than the hardware's! in fact, it would have been twice as good on a platform unmarred by those two issues.

Conclusion: I have no fucking idea why there are three fighting games on the market, and why some people think the 3DS is a perfect platform for them to thrive on. Only a filthy ninthing who never touched a fighting game since the SNES would think that, but on the bright side it's nice for them to finally catch up, and see what they were missing all this time.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 24, 2011, 10:49:56 PM
Agreed. I guess it's not such a huge surprise to be playing something like that on a handheld if you'd played the outstanding Tekken ports on PSP. The fact that DOA doesn't look all that much better (and runs at a lower resolution lol) on a more expensive, more recent handheld is pretty sad.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on May 24, 2011, 11:04:03 PM
While I haven't played fighting games on the 3DS, the d-pad and face buttons instantly felt better than the DSi (except the lowered position of the d-pad).
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 24, 2011, 11:05:51 PM
I jumped from the DS lite to the 3DS and both felt worse due to either the feel or position.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 24, 2011, 11:28:08 PM
Well I'm specifically talking about fighters. The d-pad simply doesn't feel right. It's nowhere near as good or comfortable as other platforms (save for the 360), so it still feels like I'm compromising. It needed an overhaul, not the trivial changes it has undergone.

the PSP-1000 dpad (easily fixed by... sticking another dpad on top of it?  Don't know why that worked but it did).

Heh, same here, although I still struggle with diagonals.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 24, 2011, 11:59:24 PM
psp-3000 dpad = :bow
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: cool breeze on May 25, 2011, 11:33:58 AM
was it a 1000 to 2000 upgrade?

2000 to 3000 just added a nice dip under the d-pad an buttons, but they are essentially the same.  the 1000 d-pad was just too shallow.  Adding a second d-pad or taking it apart and giving it a book helped a lot.  My 1000 analog nub is better than my 2000, 3000 or Go...not that it's an accomplishment or anything.   Nintendo managed to convince me analog sliders aren't bad with the 3DS, which is amazing because Sony failed in their four hardware iterations (five you include the monster hunter one). 

btw, PSP Go is awesome hardware, probably the best portable gaming hardware.  that's neither here nor there but it gets a bad rep mostly for Sony's dreadful management of the device.


edit: just saw the post down on Wayforward :bow2 truly the greatest case of visuals over gameplay.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on May 25, 2011, 03:20:17 PM
Agreed. I guess it's not such a huge surprise to be playing something like that on a handheld if you'd played the outstanding Tekken ports on PSP. The fact that DOA doesn't look all that much better (and runs at a lower resolution lol) on a more expensive, more recent handheld is pretty sad.

I would have liked to have seen how a DOA (fighting) game would have been on the PSP.  Dimensions looks a hell of a lot better than DOA Paradise does.

I think there are some character details that do look better than what Namco has done, but there's no denying how awesome Tekken 5DR/Tekken 6/Soul Calibur BD are on PSP.  It's just too bad that none of them have online play, Soul Calibur lacks a true online mode, and Tekken 6 has a shitty 2P mode with slowdown and limited stages available.

Be like if DOA2 Hardcore had looked worse than the DC one.

If you go back to old newsgroups/board posts, you'll find fanboys saying exactly that!

While I haven't played fighting games on the 3DS, the d-pad and face buttons instantly felt better than the DSi (except the lowered position of the d-pad).

My hand cramps up badly when I play SSF4 3D Edition.  The d-pad is an awkward position and should be higher up, where the analog pad is.

Well I'm specifically talking about fighters. The d-pad simply doesn't feel right. It's nowhere near as good or comfortable as other platforms (save for the 360), so it still feels like I'm compromising. It needed an overhaul, not the trivial changes it has undergone.

It's really just an issue with Street Fighter.  Doing complex inputs and needing those triggers is just uncomfortable after a short time.  There's no problem with DOA though. 

I've read that the Nyko battery extender pack makes things a lot more comfortable; may go pick one up today.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on May 25, 2011, 08:58:44 PM
Bought the battery extender.

Included screwdriver stripped the hell out of one of the 3DS battery cover screws.

Back to the store it goes!  The rubber smell was pretty strong anyway.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Damian79 on May 26, 2011, 07:22:45 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrq1k4iF_qU[/youtube]

Shinobi 3ds trailer.  Gameplay looks hot, graphics looks shit.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: bork on May 30, 2011, 10:55:22 AM
Quote
   
Dear Amazon.com Customer,

Customers who have shown interest in "The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D" or other adventure games might like to know what critics are saying about the story that became a legend, now in 3D.

- "A game worth buying a 3DS for." - Destructoid
- "The game looks gorgeous in 3D." - G4
- "The visuals have been suitably enhanced for the new hardware, and it really looks terrific in 3D (seriously, the screenshots don't do it justice)." - GameXplain
- "Ocarina of Time 3D looks like it's set to stand as the shining example of how to remake a Zelda game." - IGN

lol, IGN.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: magus on May 30, 2011, 11:05:04 AM
is it that time again?
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/th_cGxgi.gif?t=1306767814) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/th_cGxgi.gif?t=1306767814) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/th_cGxgi.gif?t=1306767814)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: demi on May 30, 2011, 11:08:36 AM
lol at that quote. THE SHINING EXAMPLE... of what?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS thread
Post by: Trent Dole on May 30, 2011, 11:44:18 AM
lol at that quote. THE SHINING EXAMPLE... of what?
Of how to make big money on inane retreads/with minimal effort, which has been the big N's bread and butter this entire generation. :teehee