Author Topic: Nintendo 3DS thread (Read 131104 times)

cool breeze · « **Reply #480 on:** February 22, 2011, 09:13:11 PM »

that's true but I was essentially devolving the point into "'your luddite self' nintendo"

The DS resolution was very low. If you've ever used a DS XL before, and this is no hyperbole, you can point out individual pixels. I remember trying to draw an emblem for Mario Kart DS before getting fed up and switched to the d-pad. 3DS is a slight improvement for touch screen resolution.

Damian79 · « **Reply #481 on:** February 22, 2011, 09:17:05 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on February 22, 2011, 09:11:46 PM

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The ipad iphone touch controls are GARBAGE. PURE GARBAGE

they are?

depends on the game, as far as i can see to date.

They are bad because you need to press relatively hard to get a response. With the ds you only need a light touch. This is because the ipod touch is designed to be carried in your pocket and designed so that it doesnt get affected by simple walking.

And i meant ipod not ipad. Sorry.

cool breeze · « **Reply #482 on:** February 22, 2011, 09:36:44 PM »

lol that is a complete 360 from my experience

My finger glides over my first gen ipod touch. I've used my friend's iphone 4 and it's even better. That compared any of my three DS systems where you need to press slightly instead of simply touching. Moving once you pressed, like for aiming in games, feels much better on the ipods/phones/pads too.

Sometimes it can feel bad depending on the software, though. Kinda random, but I like what Kid Icarus is doing. Instead of dragging the cursor around the screen, you just flick and the cursor moves on its own, then you tap again to stop it. My hp netbook has the same option for the touch pad and there have been iphone games like that too. Feels like a virtual track ball.

Damian79 · « **Reply #483 on:** February 22, 2011, 09:44:27 PM »

Very strange. Maybe i got a faulty ipod?

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #484 on:** February 22, 2011, 11:56:50 PM »

Sorry linkzg, capacitive is great for accessible interface stuff but I find it to be too inexact for anything requiring precision. There's a reason things like text entry have the letter blow up and to the side of your finger. Seriously, imagine trying to play og trauma center on an iphone, its hard enough on the ds.

cool breeze · « **Reply #485 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:27:50 AM »

You misunderstood me. Those are facts I posted; they are irrefutable.

One of the facts states that stylus for capacitive screens exist.

(and I played trauma center on the ds and wii and it was maddening and awesome in either form. Would probably kick ass on iphone, if not substantially more because of EXTREME multi-touch / multi-tasking procedures.)

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #486 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:43:07 AM »

No, just no.

maxy · « **Reply #487 on:** February 23, 2011, 04:55:44 AM »

Few more days

juicy sales figures

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #488 on:** February 23, 2011, 04:58:54 AM »

I personally don't think capacitive screens lack percision, but fingers covering the screen is definitelly an issue, which is why some games have you picking some kind of object, sticking out so you know the exact position, or simply displays the smaller objects a few pixels above your finger, and from there the movement is almost 1:1.

Either way I think ignoring all the advantages capacitive screens have over the 3DS' touchscreen by yelling "TRAUMA CENTER" in every thread is a bit disingenuous. Both are at fault for mostly relying on touch controls for UI navigation too.

Quote from: Damian79 on February 22, 2011, 09:17:05 PM

Quote from: dcharlie on February 22, 2011, 09:11:46 PM
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The ipad iphone touch controls are GARBAGE. PURE GARBAGE

they are?

depends on the game, as far as i can see to date.

They are bad because you need to press relatively hard to get a response. With the ds you only need a light touch. This is because the ipod touch is designed to be carried in your pocket and designed so that it doesnt get affected by simple walking.

And i meant ipod not ipad. Sorry.

If your device requires more than lightest touch/glide to get a response then you definitely have a faulty one.

maxy · « **Reply #489 on:** February 23, 2011, 05:16:38 AM »

Thread title updated to reflect the mood here(everywhere).Will bring updates as i see them.

New thread for detailed impressions would be nice,no point in burying everything in mega-threads
If somebody here buys it,of course

DC?

maxy · « **Reply #490 on:** February 23, 2011, 05:23:21 AM »

non important Famitsu scores

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Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition: 9, 8, 8, 9
Samurai Warriors Chronicles: 9, 9, 8, 8
Winning Eleven 3D Soccer: 8, 8, 8, 8
Puzzle Bobble 3D: 6, 6, 6, 6
Nintendogs cats: 10, 9, 9, 10
Ridge Racer 3D: 8, 8, 7, 9
Combat of Giants Dinosaur 3D: 6, 6, 6, 5
Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask: 8, 8, 8, 8
Shanghai 3D Cube: 7, 7, 7, 5
Super Monkey Ball 3D: 9, 8, 8, 7

pilonv1 · « **Reply #491 on:** February 23, 2011, 06:42:16 AM »

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Super Monkey Ball 3D: 9, 8, 8, 7

lol ok

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #492 on:** February 23, 2011, 06:53:28 AM »

Yeah, I was thinking of the same thing. Here are the Famitsu scores, adjusted for inflation.

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Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition: 8, 7, 7, 8
Samurai Warriors Chronicles: 7, 7, 6, 6
Winning Eleven 3D Soccer: 7, 7, 7, 7
Puzzle Bobble 3D: 5, 5, 5, 5
Nintendo Dogs cats: 8, 7, 7, 8
Ridge Racer 3D: 6, 6, 5, 7
Combat of Giants Dinosaur 3D: 5, 5, 5, 4
Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask: 8, 8, 8, 8
Shanghai 3D Cube: 6, 6, 6, 5
Super Monkey Ball 3D: 7, 6, 6, 5

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What? I like Layton.

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naff · « **Reply #493 on:** February 23, 2011, 06:56:22 AM »

Quote from: Damian79 on February 22, 2011, 09:17:05 PM

They are bad because you need to press relatively hard to get a response. With the ds you only need a light touch. This is because the ipod touch is designed to be carried in your pocket and designed so that it doesnt get affected by simple walking.

And i meant ipod not ipad. Sorry.

ostylus.com

Not as precise a stylus as DS buts those demos look pretty buttery smooth to me. Obviously not as precision as a resistive screen with a stylus, but capacitive screens are intended for fingers not stylus's

magus · « **Reply #494 on:** February 23, 2011, 07:03:27 AM »

i'm surprised layton is that low,i tought everybody was gaga for him over there?

WORST LAYTON EVER CONFIRMED

Diunx · « **Reply #495 on:** February 23, 2011, 10:15:22 AM »

Aren't you allowed to own pets or something in japan? What's the obsession with this shitty pet simulator?

Diunx · « **Reply #496 on:** February 23, 2011, 11:01:48 AM »

Woah! Wtf dude are you calling me a pedo?

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the younger I go for is 15

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Sho Nuff · « **Reply #497 on:** February 23, 2011, 02:39:57 PM »

XFE reigns supreme once again. Japan annihilated

bork · « **Reply #498 on:** February 23, 2011, 02:53:32 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on February 23, 2011, 09:44:59 AM

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DC?

i have no preorder to date - i may pop to shibuya, shinjuku or Akihabara to cover the launch i guess but that's no guarantee that i would buy a machine on the day - again... not sure what i would buy (which is usually short hand for '6 games i don't want' but i really can't justify the purchase)

If not for Street Fighter, there's no way I'd buy one at launch. I also want Ridge Racer and Samurai Warriors, but both of those look like the same ol', same ol' anyway. It's really a mediocre launch.

cool breeze · « **Reply #499 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:24:38 PM »

I feel completely nuts for wanting to buy the hardware and no games. I mean, it is really hard to be rational around shiny new hardware, but there is nothing I want to play. The only solace is knowing those N64 ports are coming out in 2011 too. At least I don't need to wait too long to have a game I want, and I can play blurry looking DS games on smaller screens than my DSi! I might just get pilotwings and hope it isn't as disappointing slim as WSR was. They have to have something unlockable, like a bird suit or an extra level or anything. Just copy and paste the N64 levels if you must; no one would know the difference.

To be fair, I feel the same way about the PSP2. I'm more excited about the hardware than the actual games for now (except for Gravity Daze). The nice thing for that is that PSP games will look and play better on it

bork · « **Reply #500 on:** February 23, 2011, 04:08:06 PM »

Quote from: Linkzg on February 23, 2011, 03:24:38 PM

I feel completely nuts for wanting to buy the hardware and no games. I mean, it is really hard to be rational around shiny new hardware, but there is nothing I want to play. The only solace is knowing those N64 ports are coming out in 2011 too. At least I don't need to wait too long to have a game I want, and I can play blurry looking DS games on smaller screens than my DSi! I might just get pilotwings and hope it isn't as disappointing slim as WSR was. They have to have something unlockable, like a bird suit or an extra level or anything. Just copy and paste the N64 levels if you must; no one would know the difference.

To be fair, I feel the same way about the PSP2. I'm more excited about the hardware than the actual games for now (except for Gravity Daze). The nice thing for that is that PSP games will look and play better on it

I don't see the point in buying a 3DS at launch if nothing really appeals to you. Just wait.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #501 on:** February 23, 2011, 05:03:05 PM »

I think I'm gonna give into my nintard impulses and buy one at launch. Probably gonna pick up steel diver, pilotwings and resident evil mercenaries. Oh and pokemon white. Oh and the handful of good dsi releases. I hope they get around to releasing Link's awakening on the vc super quick too.

Wait this is all over 400 dollars. Maybe I'll just spend the 80 bucks to get my ipod fixed.

fake edit: Mercenaries ISNT out at launch? What the hell it seems like something one could crap out in no time.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #502 on:** February 23, 2011, 05:04:54 PM »

why are we mad about the musou scores again? too high or too low?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #503 on:** February 24, 2011, 03:39:58 AM »

Pilotwings and that submarine game aren't being released at launch in Australia. Which means Nintendogs & Cats and Street Fighter 4 (locally distributed by Nintendo, Capcom don't have a local office) are the only Nintendo distributed games at launch. What an awesome lineup!

maxy · « **Reply #504 on:** February 24, 2011, 03:51:08 AM »

via neofig

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Unclairty make me upset so I decided to call them to confirm about same-day sales you are right, according to the random clerk on the phone same-day sales(launch day sales) are limited to only those with reservations

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #505 on:** February 24, 2011, 03:53:51 AM »

According to Famitsu the 3D was added later in the design process, and the gyro was super last-minute.

Makes me wonder WTF they were thinking of shipping in the first place. smh

pilonv1 · « **Reply #506 on:** February 24, 2011, 04:14:10 AM »

Must have been feeling the hurt from Sony

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I mean Apple

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naff · « **Reply #507 on:** February 24, 2011, 04:25:28 AM »

Isn't 3D the only thing going for the 3DS? Surely it was one of the main lines of thought when developing the thing.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #508 on:** February 24, 2011, 05:01:58 AM »

I'm literally crossing my fingers for the reports of about stretched DS games being inaccurate. Nobody is this dumb people, there has to be some kind of display option. Why doesn't Nintendo want my money?

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #509 on:** February 24, 2011, 07:55:41 AM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on February 24, 2011, 03:53:51 AM

According to Famitsu the 3D was added later in the design process, and the gyro was super last-minute.

Makes me wonder WTF they were thinking of shipping in the first place. smh

The iwata asks covering the hardware has a segment where the lead hardware engineer guy was talking about how they had very good graphical yields... and then they told him about the 3d screen like halfway through the process. Took a hit obviously.

maxy · « **Reply #510 on:** February 24, 2011, 08:12:03 AM »

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Weekly Famitsu provided previews of all the launch titles this week along with check lists for what's used and what isn't used. Here's a game-by-game look:

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/02/24/3ds_launch_functionality/

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #511 on:** February 24, 2011, 08:18:52 AM »

3D, StreetPass, SpotPass, Game Coins, AR Cards, and not to mention the gyro, camera, and mic standards. I gotta say, Nintendo really injected this device with a large dose of novelty, and I personally respect that, even though none of them interest me.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #512 on:** February 24, 2011, 09:54:32 AM »

I'm actually pretty interested in the AR games. I'm not saying I'll be interested for more than 10 minutes, but at the moment I am interested.

magus · « **Reply #513 on:** February 24, 2011, 10:05:12 AM »

what's the difference between streetpass and spotpass? i tought it was the same thing?

(trading info with other 3ds you find around)

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #514 on:** February 24, 2011, 11:52:15 AM »

Maybe I'll beat up some little kid on the playground and steal his

maxy · « **Reply #515 on:** February 24, 2011, 11:57:29 AM »

Do you have blue or black DS?
Ask someone to try it and then switch,he won't notice

magus · « **Reply #516 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:46:26 PM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Trent Dole · « **Reply #517 on:** February 24, 2011, 03:57:58 PM »

Ridge Racer has some impressive load times for solid state media, wtf.

maxy · « **Reply #518 on:** February 24, 2011, 04:05:39 PM »

More RAM=more time to fill it
Cheap SS media

Namco doesn't care

maxy · « **Reply #519 on:** February 24, 2011, 04:44:23 PM »

It has to fill at least 64MB,DS has like 4MB

They might be using similar cartridges,who knows

originalz · « **Reply #520 on:** February 24, 2011, 08:17:21 PM »

I was talking to a friend of mine who's literally the example of a super-casual gamer that only plays Mario and other simple shit, she tried out the 3DS at a store and was really impressed by it and wants to get the system eventually.

I really need to go to a damn store and test the thing out, everytime I'm in an area where I could I never remember since I rarely go into these stores.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #521 on:** February 24, 2011, 09:42:32 PM »

I think the load times are Namco and others compressing a lot of information on smaller cards. Bigger card are obviously more expensive but would solve the load time issue.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #522 on:** February 24, 2011, 11:31:37 PM »

Got getting sick of seeing "-without the need for special glasses" from PR in my inbox this week. It's driving me insane.

HyperZoneWasAwesome · « **Reply #523 on:** February 24, 2011, 11:31:57 PM »

pardon me for being a luddite. But if the 3DS is basically using the same data format as the DS, and if there's games coming like, I dunno, a straight port of a DVD-bursting game like Metal Gear Solid 3, how the eff does that work?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #524 on:** February 25, 2011, 12:55:57 AM »

Someone should do a pic of some MGS/FF game with 20 carts like the 360 verison of FFXIII

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #525 on:** February 25, 2011, 01:02:42 AM »

New carts support up to 2gbs right? Since carts are so much faster than optical media, it should be possible to compress 4gbs into those carts and still end up with faster loading times.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #526 on:** February 25, 2011, 01:58:47 AM »

Quote from: maxy on February 24, 2011, 03:51:08 AM

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Unclairty make me upset so I decided to call them to confirm about same-day sales you are right, according to the random clerk on the phone same-day sales(launch day sales) are limited to only those with reservations

Not that it's all that important, but that's not what the sign says. Reservations are only for sales prior to normal opening hours, i.e. from 8.30 am (electronics stores normally open from 10am)

Whether this means you have any shot at getting one if you show up tomorrow without a reservation, I dunno.

maxy · « **Reply #527 on:** February 25, 2011, 03:32:31 AM »

New Steel Driver details

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Multiplayer mode, or "Naval Battle Mode," is set up like a turn-based gridded strategy game, only you're unable to see your opponent's ships at the start. You can play this mode using download play, meaning you'll just need one game card for two players.

You and your opponent have a set of submarines, freighter ships and escort ships. The submarines are the only ships that can enter enemy territory. The escort ships can attack enemy subs who've crossed over. The freighters can't engage in combat. If your freighters all sink, you lose the battle.

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/02/25/steel_diver_multiplayer/

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #528 on:** February 25, 2011, 09:11:26 AM »

Moon people, please ask about the BC: is stretched up screens the only way to go or not?

maxy · « **Reply #529 on:** February 25, 2011, 09:17:25 AM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

testing,testing

maxy · « **Reply #530 on:** February 25, 2011, 10:21:21 AM »

Yes! A line! I'm so excited!

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With many stores going pre-order only, the 3DS launch looked like it might be uneventful as far as lines go. But it turns out that there are some major retailers accepting same-day sales, and lines have already started forming.

As reported at Inside Games, the large Yodobashi Camera in Akihabara had a line of 100 people by 23:00, an hour after the shop's closing.

Yodobashi Camera is, according to Inside Games, the only shop in Akihabara that's selling same-day systems. All other shops in the area are apparently pre-order only. Even Yodobashi did not confirm that it would have same day sales until closing time earlier today.

The Akihabara Yodobashi Camera also took pre-orders back in January, but sold out immediately. The shop will be opening at 8:30 exclusively for those who pre-ordered. Those who are lining up for same day sales will have to wait until the normal opening time of 9:30.

magus · « **Reply #531 on:** February 25, 2011, 11:49:04 AM »

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/02/26/3ds_manuals/

DO NOT PUT THE 3DS UP IN YOUR ASS

maxy · « **Reply #532 on:** February 25, 2011, 01:01:38 PM »

Quote from: magus on February 25, 2011, 11:49:04 AM

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/02/26/3ds_manuals/

DO NOT PUT THE 3DS UP IN YOUR ASS

OR,DO NOT SWALLOW!

maxy · « **Reply #533 on:** February 25, 2011, 04:44:04 PM »

Shipped to SoCal

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #534 on:** February 25, 2011, 04:48:23 PM »

No offense, but with the region locking in place, that person is an idiot, that is unless he reads/speaks the moon language fluently.

maxy · « **Reply #535 on:** February 25, 2011, 04:49:36 PM »

madness begins

02.45

04.15

Nerds,2 am...pffft

no alcohol or hot girls=me not moving after dark

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No offense, but with the region locking in place, that person is an idiot, that is unless he reads/speaks the moon language fluently.

I suppose he does,you can't be that stupid,right?

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #536 on:** February 25, 2011, 04:53:50 PM »

Quote from: Shah Rukh Khan on February 25, 2011, 04:48:23 PM

No offense, but with the region locking in place, that person is an idiot, that is unless he reads/speaks the moon language fluently.

Considering it is region locked, it makes sense to have a jpn unit to pick up the games that don't require a grasp of the lanquage to play but will never be localised for the usa. I got throught the japanese ouendan just fine at the time.

Jabberwocky · « **Reply #537 on:** February 25, 2011, 04:58:51 PM »

So this system runs things like a notepad even while a game is running, right? Shouldn't it be possible to have some kind of music program running at the same time too? So you could play MP3 files from the SD card while a game is going on. That way any game could have custom soundtracks. I hope Nintendo implements something like this with an app/firmware update.

maxy · « **Reply #538 on:** February 25, 2011, 06:02:20 PM »

32 MB is apparently reserved for OS,soo....

more lines

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/19283

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First for the 1000 3DS units at Yodobashi Camera.

bork · « **Reply #539 on:** February 25, 2011, 06:38:56 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on February 25, 2011, 04:53:50 PM

Quote from: Shah Rukh Khan on February 25, 2011, 04:48:23 PM
No offense, but with the region locking in place, that person is an idiot, that is unless he reads/speaks the moon language fluently.

Considering it is region locked, it makes sense to have a jpn unit to pick up the games that don't require a grasp of the lanquage to play but will never be localised for the usa. I got throught the japanese ouendan just fine at the time.

It doesn't make sense at almost $500 for the 3DS alone, though. I want me some portable SSF4 too, but people importing now are insane-- the American release is only a month away, and nobody knows if some games will even be compatible with each other online. I can't imagine online play versus people in Japan working too well on that thing. Not to mention, WHAT import games? All that shit is coming out here, too.

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Author Topic: Nintendo 3DS thread (Read 131104 times)