show starts with skit, PIKMIN
miyamoto showing wiiu pad, talks wiiu
PIKMIN 3 REVEALED WIIU CONFIRMED PURCHASE
Rock Pikmin, new type
Can use WM+ and shit to be more accurate
WiiU Pad shows overall map
Multiple "Leaders" (lack of Captain Olimar is a secret)
Challenge Mode
Pikmin 3 developed in mind for "challenging games"
Available on Showfloor
Reggie comes up
"23 wiiu titles on stage today"
netflux, hulu, youtube, amazon video
nintendo all-access - e3.nintendo.com (just like before)
asymetric gameplay
wiiu hardware supports 2 separate gamepads (the tablet)
video showing wiiu overview (i missed this since i had to get lunch)
New Super Mario Bros. U
Dark Souls like messages (from Nintendo Direct)
"boost mode"
person with gamepad can help with speedruns, create blocks
warner bros guy comes out to pimp batman arkham city "armored edition"
batman / catwoman have... armor
developed by montreal studio
B A T meter
power up... use gamepad to release energy
use pad to move remote batarangs
can tap explosive gel to explode
Scribblenauts Unlimited
Jeremiiah from 5th Cell (looks like a dopey meathead)
use gamepad to drag and drop items to create stuff, share with friends (if you have any)
LEARN MAXWELL'S STORY!!!!!!!!!! (wow)
3DS logo on trailer
sizzle reel
darksiders 2, mass effect 3 (!!!), tank tank tank, tekken tag tournament 2, trine 2 directors cut, ninja gaiden 3, aliens colonial marines
music and fitness wankery
"my body was ready" clap clap clap
WiiFit U
sexual implied trailer
uses wiifit board (as nintendo direct said)
basically what "sex" would be like between two mormons
Sing (working title)
developed by freestylegames
gamepad displays lyrics
3DS news
sad attempt to clap
new guy scott moffit
advertising tomorrow conference for 3ds games
new super mario bros 2
all about gold coins (wtf?)
coin block hat
literally like the entire game is coins
racoon tail
August 19th release
Paper Mario Sticker Star
pull stickers off the environment, use in battle
"holiday season" (physically and digitally?)
Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon
"holiday season"
sizzle reel
castlevania mirror of fate, epic mickey, scribblenauts, kingdom hearts (lol that was it)
MORE AT TOMORROWS CONFERENCE
reggie back
Lego City Undercover (WiiU)
open world
use gamepad to scan crime areas
developed by Travvelers Tales
also coming to 3DS
Ubisoft next
Just Dance 4
person with gamepad can direct what 4 dancers can do (with wiimotes) -- aka trolololol
ZombiU
first person shooter, use gamepad for lots of things (sonar, inventory, etc.) (from trailer, not real gameplay)
at showfloor
(http://h12.abload.de/img/0177_wfu9f.gif)
sizzle trailer
assassin's creed 3, rabbids land, yourshape fitness, rayman legends, sports connection, avengers
Nintendo Land
"used to understand the appeal to WiiU"
Katsuya Iguchi (guy behind animal crossing, wii sports, etc.)
single game that brings 12 different attractions (5 at e3)
uses various IPs -- zelda, luigis mansion, animal crossing, donkey kong, takamaru's ninja castle (that ninja throwing star thing)
uses Miiverse (aka HOME for Ninthings)
showing luigi's mansion
more or less PacMan Vs. (remember that? its back, in pog form)
launches same time as WiiU "this holiday"
END OF SHOW
Needs more WARA WARA
PowerPC architecture.
Three cores (fully coherent).
3MB aggregate L2 Cache size.
core 0: 512 KB
core 1: 2048 KB
core 2: 512 KB
Write gatherer per core.
Locked (L1d) cache DMA per core.
are those specs above or inline with 360?
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
LET'S DO THIS
WWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
If they show Pikmin, it's already better than Sony for me.
If they show Pikmin, it's already better than Sony for me.
yepIf they show Pikmin, it's already better than Sony for me.
+1. That's all I ask.
I don't know who's more unappealing - Reggie or Don Mattrick
both dudes makes me want to jam a screwdriver in me ear
MARIO MARIO MARIO
why are people clapping
why are people clapping
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So outside of a tablet, what the hell is the difference between a 360 and a WiiU? Whimsy?
So outside of a tablet, what the hell is the difference between a 360 and a WiiU? Whimsy?
mario
Log back on guys. It ain't over.
Log back on guys. It ain't over.
that's just a re-run of the pre e3 show they already had
this is the saddest e3 ever :fbm
Log back on guys. It ain't over.
that's just a re-run of the pre e3 show they already had
this is the saddest e3 ever :fbm
Really? He's going over Nintendo Land right now. They had that during the pre-E3 show?
(http://h12.abload.de/img/0177_wfu9f.gif)
guys, it's cool:lol
we have Ninja Gaiden 3
I missed the first 75 minutes. Did anything remotely interesting happen?
(http://i.imgur.com/IfBLD.png)
A nice game of Donkey Kong on WiiU before this family goes off to picket their nearest abortion clinic.
A nice game of Donkey Kong on WiiU before this family goes off to picket their nearest abortion clinic.
If they are against abortions, why would they be playing the wii u?
Nintendo Landyep
(http://i.imgur.com/IMuFW.jpg)
It's not DOA. There's over 20 launch games. And I'm intrigued by Zombie U. The Wii didn't have anything at launch apart from Zelda which was a Gamecube game.
How is it DOA? The only thing Wii had at launch were some mediocre third-party games and Zelda Twilight Princess.
This thing has Pikmin 3, a new Mario, and some decent third party games. It's certainly not DOA.
I've been in a meeting all morning, what the hell did I miss?
And I'm intrigued by Zombie U.
I've been in a meeting all morning, what the hell did I miss?
This appears to be the spin, THE WII HAD NOTHING AT LAUNCH EITHER AND IT STILL WON:QuoteIt's not DOA. There's over 20 launch games. And I'm intrigued by Zombie U. The Wii didn't have anything at launch apart from Zelda which was a Gamecube game.QuoteHow is it DOA? The only thing Wii had at launch were some mediocre third-party games and Zelda Twilight Princess.
This thing has Pikmin 3, a new Mario, and some decent third party games. It's certainly not DOA.
PN03 sold like shit, this won't do any better.
At least PS3 got ME2 and 3, giving WiiU Mass Effect 3 without eiher of the first two is just mindboggling.
Good stuff. I'm curious on the Avengers title that didn't get spoken of in detail from the trailer, but Scribblenauts sold me.
Only big things not present were Retro and Smash news. Other than that I think they had enough.
2 NSMB games across 2 consoles
Scribblenauts Unlimited across 2 consoles
Zombi U
Nintendoland
Just Dance 4
Sing
Wii Fit U
Batman Archam City Armored Edition
Assassin's Creed 3
Trine 2 special edition
Rayman Legends
Paper Mario 3DS
Luigi's Mansion 3DS
Pikmin 3
Some kind of Avengers game
Tekken Tag 2 with Wii U mushroom tools or something
Lego City
And I think a few more. Got a ton of Mario stuff, some things for the casuals and health crowd Nintendo owns, Pikmin, and some good 3rd party stuff including ports with features exclusive to Wii U that aren't little tiny things, but pretty big gameplay changers like the armor and combat stuff in Arkham City.
What was missing? Retro, Smash, Zelda, Metroid, Star Fox, Kirby, Pokemon, DK.
Yeah I wanted those things too, but geez give it a rest. They had a lot to talk about and they still have a huge 3DS conference to do later as well. Still had more than Microsoft/Sony did that appealed to me.
This is seriously the worst hardware unveiling I can ever remember
PN03 sold like shit, this won't do any better.
It's also not a sequel to PN03 since Nintendo is making it.
PN03 sold like shit, this won't do any better.
It's also not a sequel to PN03 since Nintendo is making it.
And it will still tank. Remember Sin and Punishment 2? Yeah, that sure lit the world on fire. From the bargain bin.
Remember that Wii game Platinum Games did?
Yeah, we all would like to forget Madworld.
PN03 sold like shit, this won't do any better.
It's also not a sequel to PN03 since Nintendo is making it.
And it will still tank. Remember Sin and Punishment 2? Yeah, that sure lit the world on fire. From the bargain bin.
who cares? game as fun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr4D4YZQ9uY
uh...it looks alright.
uh...it looks alright.Not really.
Update: In a follow-up, Nintendo Japan has posted on Twitter that there's a price to pay if two Gamepads are active. Frame rates drop to about 30 fps if two are active; any games that really want that extra controller won't be quite as glass-smooth. On the upside, it's possible to switch one off with a smooth transition; there won't be a need for theatrics just to switch to a solo game.
Oh I forgot, fun is now important. Last I remembered Nintendo fans were obsessed with sales figures.
This is gonna be the most boring E3 I'll ever have been to, but fuck it, I got a badge and I'm gonna take advantage of it damn you! :punch
Anything y'all bitches want me to check out and report back on?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/05/nintendo-two-wii-u-gamepads-will-work-on-one-system/I'm sure that's just the early version of the hardware, in the final version it'll be 1080p 60fps all the time.QuoteUpdate: In a follow-up, Nintendo Japan has posted on Twitter that there's a price to pay if two Gamepads are active. Frame rates drop to about 30 fps if two are active; any games that really want that extra controller won't be quite as glass-smooth. On the upside, it's possible to switch one off with a smooth transition; there won't be a need for theatrics just to switch to a solo game.
Oh I forgot, fun is now important. Last I remembered Nintendo fans were obsessed with sales figures.
So since you are apparently obsessed with sales figures, does that make you an Ntard?
Not sure why you are arguing sales shit on the bore.
I've never played Trine before. Is it cool?
I've never played Trine before. Is it cool?
I've never played Trine before. Is it cool?
Kamiya is directing P100
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/05/nintendo-two-wii-u-gamepads-will-work-on-one-system/QuoteUpdate: In a follow-up, Nintendo Japan has posted on Twitter that there's a price to pay if two Gamepads are active. Frame rates drop to about 30 fps if two are active; any games that really want that extra controller won't be quite as glass-smooth. On the upside, it's possible to switch one off with a smooth transition; there won't be a need for theatrics just to switch to a solo game.
Ok i'm not going to lie. I'm going to by one just for mario. My shame is great.
Kamiya is directing P100
Well that's a huge shame.
Bayo 2 :(
got canned almost a year ago, we knew this.
Ok i'm not going to lie. I'm going to by one just for mario. My shame is great.I'm going to buy one eventually because I sold my Wii years ago so I need this for my Mario and co nostalgia faggotry.
Ok i'm not going to lie. I'm going to by one just for mario. My shame is great.
Kamiya is directing P100
Well that's a huge shame.
Bayo 2 :(
got canned almost a year ago, we knew this.
Ok i'm not going to lie. I'm going to by one just for mario. My shame is great.
Nintendo used to get my with this, but the "When in doubt spam Mario" mentality has ruined that.
Wii U controller battery lasts 3 to 5 hours. Takes 2.5 hours to charge.
Ok i'm not going to lie. I'm going to by one just for mario. My shame is great.
Nintendo used to get my with this, but the "When in doubt spam Mario" mentality has ruined that.
Not really. Mario will still save their ass for another few generations.
Hell, I'm going to end up buying a Wii U at some point just to play Mario.
Wii U controller battery lasts 3 to 5 hours. Takes 2.5 hours to charge.
I love how this is a complete 180 from the wii reveal with all the lines and excitement. The hype was massive for that thing, game websites were jizzing over it and it launched with zelda and shit.
Now? Watching Gametrailers it seems like everyone was shaking their head, no one is excited at all. The usual ninfans will keep it a float but I don't see it winning the console race a all.
Wii U controller battery lasts 3 to 5 hours. Takes 2.5 hours to charge.
BTW Hitler Stole My Potato, I fucking love you man.
You better post more here.
Where's Andrex?
We need gaffer meltdowns stat!
Where's Andrex?
I did not!
We need gaffer meltdowns stat!okay
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
man everyone thinking this was the worst Nintendo conference needs to get their head screwed back on.
Did you forget 2008 E3?
Remember when it was only just ANIMAL CROSSING and WII MUSIC?
Nintendo showcased a ton of games here, chances are a lot of these will be launch titles and only 2-5 of them suck.
Admit it, if Zelda or smashbros had a trailer at the conference you'd all be sucking Nintendos dick right now.
Also pretty dumb people expected a price and release date at E3.
Did you forget Nintendo didn't do that with the Wii?
exaggerated backlash here is astounding.
Just astounding.
It was a meh conference. They blew it.
So that means Wii U will never have any games besides Pikmen 3, NSMB U, and Wii Fit U... EVAR.
Pack it up, Nintendo has stopped developing games!
All that really happened here is they chose the wrong things to emphasize in order to win over a hardcore audience that was - judging by these reactions - primed and ready to rip them apart if said audience didn't have pure rainbows injected into their veins.
By the standards of overwrought reactions we are getting, Halo 4 and Xbox 720 are clearly canceled because of how bad the MS press conference was.
Entitled gamers. Don't you see gaming is about more than just you now? Nintendo and the Wii U is the future.
Wii U controller battery lasts 3 to 5 hours. Takes 2.5 hours to charge.
Nope.
Did Nintendo announce any new franchise? I was at work.
Guys...
All this shows is that many of Nintendo's studio's are still working.
RETRO'S GAME IS COMING.
MONOLITHSOFT'S GAME IS COMING.
3D MARIO IS COMING.
ZELDA IS COMING.
SMASH IS COMING.
ALL OF NINTENDO'S STUFF IS COMING.
This show showed nice 3rd party support.
Rayman Legends is an awesome exclusive.
ZombiU looked good, much better than expected.
Scribblenauts is awesome.
Mass Effect 3
Lego City Stories looked amazing, both creatively and graphically.
They are just showing launch stuff, Nintendo's has NintendoDirect now to show stuff as it's finished, and this was only half their stuff, we still get the 3DS conference tomorrow.
It wasn't the BEST conference for us, but Wii-U looked like it had an awesome launch selection for me.
I'm a Nintendo/PC gamer, i've never played an Assasins Creed, now I will. Batman will have the DLC and the new gameplay mechanics, i'm excited for that. Many Nintendo gamers haven't played MAss Effect, now they can. Darksiders is the definitive version...
How many console's can boast as awesome a launch lineup as
Pikmen 3
2D Mario
Assassins Creed 3
Rayman Legends (Exclusive 3rd party)
Lego City Stories (Exclusive 3rd Party
EA Sports games
Tekken Tag 2
Nintendo Land
Scribblenauts
ZombiU (exclusive 3rd party new IP)
Exlusive Platinum studios game published by Nintendo...
Awesome launch lineup.
Nintendo's big guns are absolutely coming, and what they showed looked super sweet.
"One thing that I can say without getting in any trouble is that the launch line-up for the Wii U is going to surprise people. It's going to be pretty damn good."
That new Platinum game reminds me a lot of The Last Guy.
Quote from: Shane Satterfield"One thing that I can say without getting in any trouble is that the launch line-up for the Wii U is going to surprise people. It's going to be pretty damn good.":teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee
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Wii U controller battery lasts 3 to 5 hours. Takes 2.5 hours to charge.
That new Platinum game reminds me a lot of The Last Guy.Did Nintendo announce any new franchise? I was at work.
Ubisoft was the only company to announce a new franchise.
Well, I guess Sony with Beyond, but it got leaked early.
The new Platinum game piques my interest. It's not what I've come to expect of them given their modern output, but then again they were responsible for the whimsical VJ and Ookami. And if Kamiya is indeed directing then I'll keep an eye on it. I'm just surprised that it looks somewhat similar in concept to Pikmin, could be wrong though.
Who is this Satterfield?
I don't recall the Wii getting the big 3rd party multiplats. (btw we know EA is on board from last year (Especially given the support for 2 gamepads at once), they chose to put UBI front and center this time around)
The only thing really lacking were some big first party nintendo games other than NSMB and Pikmin, but would that really be "different" from the Wii? The Wii had those games.
wth were you expecting to differentiate it from the Wii other than HD, and 3rd party support, both of which were actually shown.
Nintendo cut it's own content in half by devoting a show to the 3DS tomorrow, and they decided to only focus on launch software for the conference proper, bad move, surely, but GAF should be smarter than to whine like petulent children framing all of their hopes and dreams moment to moment on a press event.
Who is this Satterfield?
Mangod aka the guy that used to be on the 1up podcast years ago. The Sony shill.
That quote was from back in April btw
Who is this Satterfield?
Mangod aka the guy that used to be on the 1up podcast years ago. The Sony shill.
That quote was from back in April btw
wrong
@ Hitler: Wasnt that Bettenhausen?
Problem is it uses the Wii U screen mainly as map. Ass Creed 3 uses it as a map/inventory. Aliens uses it as motion tracker/map. Pikmin uses it as a map.Probably most multiplats will be that way. Inventory and maps.
So we still don't know who this Shane is dangit.Gametrailers guy, he was on Spike earlier, he's short.
So we still don't know who this Shane is dangit.
Problem is it uses the Wii U screen mainly as map. Ass Creed 3 uses it as a map/inventory. Aliens uses it as motion tracker/map. Pikmin uses it as a map.Probably most multiplats will be that way. Inventory and maps.
If the ZombiU game only uses the screen as a map then why is it a Wii U exclusive? The game's probably trash an Ubi realizes the only way it can sell is from hungry Nintendo nerds.It also has a scanner thing and uses the screen to snipe or something.
lol ntards on Gaf convincing themselves that ZombiU looks great (gamplay and graphically)All the video I saw of it looked like CG stuff, not real gameplay. The game looks scatterbrained as hell.
they are showing a live demo on GameTrailers/SpikeTV now
If the ZombiU game only uses the screen as a map then why is it a Wii U exclusive? The game's probably trash an Ubi realizes the only way it can sell is from hungry Nintendo nerds.
All the video I saw of it looked like CG stuff, not real gameplay. The game looks scatterbrained as hell.
I thought ZombiU looked interesting, but it reeks of Red Steel's stench. I haven't seen the gameplay demo, did it look good or as BS as the conf trailer?They were actually playing it on Spike.
The new Platinum game piques my interest. It's not what I've come to expect of them given their modern output, but then again they were responsible for the whimsical VJ and Ookami. And if Kamiya is indeed directing then I'll keep an eye on it. I'm just surprised that it looks somewhat similar in concept to Pikmin, could be wrong though.
VJ wasn't just whimsy though. It was a hardcore deep action game like Bayonetta/DMC on a 2.5d plane. Okami was an epic Zelda adventure with DMC-lite combat and a ton of exploration.
This doesn't look as appealing to the hardcore gamer crowd as Kamiya's previous works.
Guys...
All this shows is that many of Nintendo's studio's are still working.
Tech demos aren't games. Rubber duckies, you know. Aside from that, Pikmin and 2D Mario aren't exactly known for pushing the graphical boundary of the systems they're on. (Yes, Pikmin looked very nice.)
A bunch of ports wouldn't do that either.
Gonna take Retro and an EAD to really show what the Wii U can do.
Just realized Nintendo couldn't even get a Call of Duty game for launch.
Who is this Daschysta guy? His insane.No idea, he's the one who posted the big rant/list I quoted. He's been posting stuff like that throughout the conference thread.
Aside from that, Pikmin and 2D Mario aren't exactly known for pushing the graphical boundary of the systems they're on.This is just a straight-up lie.
Wii U controller battery lasts 3 to 5 hours. Takes 2.5 hours to charge.
Nintendo has a solution to this problem: they're not making any games anyone would want to play for more than three hours.
QuoteAside from that, Pikmin and 2D Mario aren't exactly known for pushing the graphical boundary of the systems they're on.This is just a straight-up lie.
I think Pikmin 3 is just disappointingly inconsistent though - the good parts are very good and the bad parts are shitty GC-level ground textures.
official specs:
(http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r401/pocketfudge/specs.jpg)
According to this it looks like it's got a CPU AND a GPU
Seems beastly
No Numbers? :lol6.8 inches long and 10.5 inches deep
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477079From the link:
Games are becoming less about games...developers all have money hungry eyes like businessmen. Nobody has devotion to games really. Nintendo showed Pikmin 3 and NSMBWU but that was it. Whereatethegames.jpg:lol
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477079
:lol
No Numbers? :lol6.8 inches long and 10.5 inches deep
what more do you want?
I have no problem with them using the controller screen as an inventory/map/powers/weapons screen. I think that's a neat (if simple) feature which actually enhances games and replaces awkward d-pad or "wheel" selection. It will be used to charge a premium for games that are over a year old (like Batman, which you can already buy much cheaper elsewhere), though.
How I see it:
+ awesome Batman Wii U pad features
+ uber Diablo like LEGO GTA - system seller #1
+ Dance Something 4 - system seller #2
+ seriously LEGO GTA is amazing
+ New Super Mario Bros. U - 2D Mario what can you ask more for?
+ 2 Wii U tablets working together
+ sexy black Wii U pure black sex
+ LEGO GTA!!! game of the conference for sure
+ Reggie making fun of the meme "My Body is Ready"
- Mass Effect 3, lol
- Nintendoland - HOME of Ninthings
- no multitouch, typical Nintendo: one step forward, 2 steps backwards
- no pricepoint
- Pikmin 3, *yawn*
Overall: best conference of E3 so far. Lots of laugh, lots of cool shit games.
Nintendo is back, baby.
touche (should have said CPU and GPU numbers)There was a leak thing the other day based on some of the devkits, dunno if true:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477079From the link:QuoteGames are becoming less about games...developers all have money hungry eyes like businessmen. Nobody has devotion to games really. Nintendo showed Pikmin 3 and NSMBWU but that was it. Whereatethegames.jpg:lol
I have no problem with them using the controller screen as an inventory/map/powers/weapons screen. I think that's a neat (if simple) feature which actually enhances games and replaces awkward d-pad or "wheel" selection. It will be used to charge a premium for games that are over a year old (like Batman, which you can already buy much cheaper elsewhere), though.
I honestly don't know why they bothered focusing on old games. If they wanted to show off WiiU integration with a 3rd party title then they should have made a deal with someone to show off something we haven't already seen - like a Darksiders 2 demo or something.
To spend so much time with a game that came out last year and announcing insane ports like ME3......I just.....fuck. It's mind boggling.
I have no problem with them using the controller screen as an inventory/map/powers/weapons screen. I think that's a neat (if simple) feature which actually enhances games and replaces awkward d-pad or "wheel" selection. It will be used to charge a premium for games that are over a year old (like Batman, which you can already buy much cheaper elsewhere), though.
I honestly don't know why they bothered focusing on old games. If they wanted to show off WiiU integration with a 3rd party title then they should have made a deal with someone to show off something we haven't already seen - like a Darksiders 2 demo or something.
To spend so much time with a game that came out last year and announcing insane ports like ME3......I just.....fuck. It's mind boggling.
Why in the FUCK wouldn't they include an ethernet port?
I have no problem with them using the controller screen as an inventory/map/powers/weapons screen. I think that's a neat (if simple) feature which actually enhances games and replaces awkward d-pad or "wheel" selection. It will be used to charge a premium for games that are over a year old (like Batman, which you can already buy much cheaper elsewhere), though.
I honestly don't know why they bothered focusing on old games. If they wanted to show off WiiU integration with a 3rd party title then they should have made a deal with someone to show off something we haven't already seen - like a Darksiders 2 demo or something.
To spend so much time with a game that came out last year and announcing insane ports like ME3......I just.....fuck. It's mind boggling.
Yeah, when it comes to stuff like Batman or ME3, the question anyone who isn't a Nintendo fan will be asking themselves is "Why should I pay $300-350 just so I can pay $60 to play a game I can buy for $20 and play on a system I either already own or can buy for $200-250?"
I have no problem with them using the controller screen as an inventory/map/powers/weapons screen. I think that's a neat (if simple) feature which actually enhances games and replaces awkward d-pad or "wheel" selection. It will be used to charge a premium for games that are over a year old (like Batman, which you can already buy much cheaper elsewhere), though.
I honestly don't know why they bothered focusing on old games. If they wanted to show off WiiU integration with a 3rd party title then they should have made a deal with someone to show off something we haven't already seen - like a Darksiders 2 demo or something.
To spend so much time with a game that came out last year and announcing insane ports like ME3......I just.....fuck. It's mind boggling.
Why in the FUCK wouldn't they include an ethernet port?
I have no problem with them using the controller screen as an inventory/map/powers/weapons screen. I think that's a neat (if simple) feature which actually enhances games and replaces awkward d-pad or "wheel" selection. It will be used to charge a premium for games that are over a year old (like Batman, which you can already buy much cheaper elsewhere), though.
I honestly don't know why they bothered focusing on old games. If they wanted to show off WiiU integration with a 3rd party title then they should have made a deal with someone to show off something we haven't already seen - like a Darksiders 2 demo or something.
To spend so much time with a game that came out last year and announcing insane ports like ME3......I just.....fuck. It's mind boggling.
Yeah, when it comes to stuff like Batman or ME3, the question anyone who isn't a Nintendo fan will be asking themselves is "Why should I pay $300-350 just so I can pay $60 to play a game I can buy for $20 and play on a system I either already own or can buy for $200-250?"
Because you're not the target demographic. Along with the Nintendo fans who don't buy other systems, they're hoping to attract more people who are into the whole tablet setup and don't previously own systems.
I have no problem with them using the controller screen as an inventory/map/powers/weapons screen. I think that's a neat (if simple) feature which actually enhances games and replaces awkward d-pad or "wheel" selection. It will be used to charge a premium for games that are over a year old (like Batman, which you can already buy much cheaper elsewhere), though.
I honestly don't know why they bothered focusing on old games. If they wanted to show off WiiU integration with a 3rd party title then they should have made a deal with someone to show off something we haven't already seen - like a Darksiders 2 demo or something.
To spend so much time with a game that came out last year and announcing insane ports like ME3......I just.....fuck. It's mind boggling.
Yeah, when it comes to stuff like Batman or ME3, the question anyone who isn't a Nintendo fan will be asking themselves is "Why should I pay $300-350 just so I can pay $60 to play a game I can buy for $20 and play on a system I either already own or can buy for $200-250?"
Because you're not the target demographic. Along with the Nintendo fans who don't buy other systems, they're hoping to attract more people who are into the whole tablet setup and don't previously own systems.
But if they're into the whole tablet thing, wouldn't they already own an iPad and not give a shit about spending several hundred bucks more to get hardware with an inferior tablet controller and $60 per game?
Has anyone confirmed resolution on the tablet?
Has anyone confirmed resolution on the tablet?854×480
So they're going with another proprietary format for the media?Yeah, based on BluRay like the Wii discs were DVD. 25GB and 50GB I thought announced last year, Wiki just says 25GB now though.
Mojovonio sighting :o
:bow
Hey Boo
You guys are fucking nuts, looks way better than any FPS for current consoles.
True story.
I bought a homeless guy a sandwich today and I mentioned I wanted to get back for 12 because there was a Nintendo conference.
His only question was "Are they still fucking gay?"
So even a man who cherishes a garbage bag without holes to protect his garments, considers Nintendo "Fucking Gay".
nom nom nomThere were some people lamenting that it was probably too hardcore for console gamers.
According to them, ZombiU is da shit:QuoteYou guys are fucking nuts, looks way better than any FPS for current consoles.
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Mojovonio sighting :o
:bow
Hey Boo
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nom nom nom
According to them, ZombiU is da shit:QuoteYou guys are fucking nuts, looks way better than any FPS for current consoles.
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True story.
I bought a homeless guy a sandwich today and I mentioned I wanted to get back for 12 because there was a Nintendo conference.
His only question was "Are they still fucking gay?"
So even a man who cherishes a garbage bag without holes to protect his garments, considers Nintendo "Fucking Gay".
True story.
I bought a homeless guy a sandwich today and I mentioned I wanted to get back for 12 because there was a Nintendo conference.
His only question was "Are they still fucking gay?"
So even a man who cherishes a garbage bag without holes to protect his garments, considers Nintendo "Fucking Gay".
Activision Eric Hirshberg: Nothing formal for Wii U/Skylanders Giants Confirmed:lol
On GameTrailers right now with Geoff.
Said Skylands Giants is coming to Wii U, then side-stepped everything else Wii U related.
Also "No Comment"ed BLOPs 2 for Wii U.
"No Formal Announcements" for Wii U this week.
If you don't survive, tough. Your character only gets one life, just like in the real world.
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ninfans are creeps like no one
http://press.nintendo.com/E32012/
User: Nintendo
Password: E32012
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Players can use the wii u gamepad to command heroes such as bonzai man,vending machine man and even toilet bowl man
True story.
I bought a homeless guy a sandwich today and I mentioned I wanted to get back for 12 because there was a Nintendo conference.
His only question was "Are they still fucking gay?"
So even a man who cherishes a garbage bag without holes to protect his garments, considers Nintendo "Fucking Gay".
True story.
I bought a homeless guy a sandwich today and I mentioned I wanted to get back for 12 because there was a Nintendo conference.
His only question was "Are they still fucking gay?"
So even a man who cherishes a garbage bag without holes to protect his garments, considers Nintendo "Fucking Gay".
3rd parties are like WAIT N SEE. Burned on Vita once, don't want to get burned again.
VG Leaks says they have received the Wii U specs from a anonymous source.
Hardware Features
Main Application Processor
PowerPC architecture.
Three cores (fully coherent).
3MB aggregate L2 Cache size.
core 0: 512 KB
core 1: 2048 KB
core 2: 512 KB
Write gatherer per core.
Locked (L1d) cache DMA per core.
Main Memory
Up to 3GB of main memory (CAT-DEVs only). Note: retail machine will have half devkit memory
Please note that the quantity of memory available from the Cafe SDK and Operating System may vary.
Graphics and Video
Modern unified shader architecture.
32MB high-bandwidth eDRAM, supports 720p 4x MSAA or 1080p rendering in a single pass.
HDMI and component video outputs.
Features
Unified shader architecture executes vertex, geometry, and pixel shaders
Multi-sample anti-aliasing (2, 4, or 8 samples per pixel)
Read from multi-sample surfaces in the shader
128-bit floating point HDR texture filtering
High resolution texture support (up to 8192 x 8192)
Indexed cube map arrays
8 render targets
Independent blend modes per render target
Pixel coverage sample masking
Hierarchical Z/stencil buffer
Early Z test and Fast Z Clear
Lossless Z & stencil compression
2x/4x/8x/16x high quality adaptive anisotropic filtering modes
sRGB filtering (gamma/degamma)
Tessellation unit
Stream out support
Compute shader support
GX2 is a 3D graphics API for the Nintendo Wii U system (also known as Cafe). The API is designed to be as efficient as GX(1) from the Nintendo GameCube and Wii systems. Current features are modeled after OpenGL and the AMD r7xx series of graphics processors. Wii U’s graphics processor is referred to as GPU7.
Sound and Audio
Dedicated 120MHz audio DSP.
Support for 6 channel discrete uncompressed audio (via HDMI).
2 channel audio for the Cafe DRC controller.
Monaural audio for the Cafe Remote controller.
Networking
802.11 b/g/n Wifi.
Peripherals
Link
2 x USB 2.0 host controllers x 2 ports each.
SDCard Slot.
Built-in Storage
512MB SLC NAND for System.
8GB MLC NAND for Applications.
Host PC Bridge
Dedicated Cafe-to-host PC bridge hardware.
Allows File System emulation by host PC.
Provides interface for debugger and logging to host PC.
Regarding half framerate when using two U pads:QuoteShow me one PC running 3 1080p monitors with a single graphics card that is not a 2 slot solution running a pc shooter at 60fps on all 3 monitors?
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I think this thing is going to get less third party support than the GC.
I was just showing how clueless he is for thinking that it's IMPOSSIBLE to have that type of graphical performance.
I was just showing how clueless he is for thinking that it's IMPOSSIBLE to have that type of graphical performance.He specifically ruled out dual-slots so he could get away with eliminating basically every modern graphics card.
I think this thing is going to get less third party support than the GC.
The GC had a good amount of third party support. I don't know why you would compare it to the GC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgndOkWGk1A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgndOkWGk1A
That looks fun...at $15.
3rd parties are like WAIT N SEE. Burned on Vita once, don't want to get burned again.
I think this thing is going to get less third party support than the GC.
The GC had a good amount of third party support. I don't know why you would compare it to the GC.
It got games, but they were normally crappy ports, no? But most people still consider that to be the lower bound of what Nintendo can get. I'm getting a feeling it won't even be as good as that.
Fans who have purchased libraries of old games will not lose their downloaded game titles when they decide to upgrade to the new system, a decision in line with how Apple’s iTunes store operates regarding digital downloads of game apps. Moffitt said that there will be a bit of restructuring of how their login IDs/accounts work with the Wii U; he told us, “You will have an individual account based system. Each member of your family might have their own account.”http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2012/06/nintendos-wii-u-gamepad-to-play-old-wii-games-company-says-at-e3/
Each player will have saved gaming preferences, but it is unclear how Wii Virtual Console collections will be assigned to an account for ownership transfers on the Wii U eShop at this point. If this backwards compatibility continues through the next generation of systems, fans may never have to repurchase old games again. That may change if games are reintroduced in high definition (Wii, unlike its competitors, produced standard-definition video), but Nintendo has said nothing on that yet.
The GC had more third party support than the wii if I'm not mistaken.
(CNN) -- Will Nintendo's forthcoming Wii U controller breathe new life into its aging Wii console?
So apprently some surprises at the dev roundtable.
this is not how surprises workSo apprently some surprises at the dev roundtable.
Such as?
OK well that does look pretty cool...
So apprently some surprises at the dev roundtable.
OK well that does look pretty cool...
How so?
06:45:09 PM PDT
Take that, NeoGAF!
06:44:58 PM PDT
"I'd like to have a system in place where you talk to someone about a game, and you know it's a game that they've played."
06:44:45 PM PDT
They're talking a lot about sharing information with people you meet in the game. "I know on the Internet there are plenty of message boards, but I hate when people go onto message boards and complain about games they've never played."
Then again, you really can't fall off the ground
One player is playing as Mario on the TV, while Trinnen uses the GamePad to create extra platforms in the game world.
The platforms he creates only last for a few moments, so the two players need to be very in sync.
if those leaked specs are true, i just made $100 -and- BEST OF ALL i get to torture a ninthing coworker
so is the gpu a 4670 or a 4670m :lol
nom nom nom
According to them, ZombiU is da shit:QuoteYou guys are fucking nuts, looks way better than any FPS for current consoles.
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:lol add to emoticons plz
the wii u is basically a pc from late '07, or a mid-range gaming laptop from late '09
Oh yeah, well, show me a PC from late '07 that can play Nintendo Land.When will they update Dolphin?
When will they update Dolphin?
True story.
I bought a homeless guy a sandwich today and I mentioned I wanted to get back for 12 because there was a Nintendo conference.
His only question was "Are they still fucking gay?"
So even a man who cherishes a garbage bag without holes to protect his garments, considers Nintendo "Fucking Gay".
While they can probably emulate the tech, I don't envy the the programmer who embarks on emulating the whimsy.With the way Dolphin shots get posted on GAF whenever anyone suggests the Wii has graphics the whimsy emulation technology must already be pretty up there.
Soooo what fallout happened between EA and Nintendo in the last year? They were front and center on stage last year talking about how they were looking forward to the platform and now they have one laughable choice of a port committed. None of their sports games, no dead space, no need for speed, no battlefield. NADA.
Soooo what fallout happened between EA and Nintendo in the last year? They were front and center on stage last year talking about how they were looking forward to the platform and now they have one laughable choice of a port committed. None of their sports games, no dead space, no need for speed, no battlefield. NADA.
i would imagine none of their half-assed shit sold very well on the wii
Soooo what fallout happened between EA and Nintendo in the last year? They were front and center on stage last year talking about how they were looking forward to the platform and now they have one laughable choice of a port committed. None of their sports games, no dead space, no need for speed, no battlefield. NADA.
at least activision put a little behind their CoD ports (online worked really well in World at War, never played any of the others)All of them worked pretty well online, Treyarch even went through the trouble of figuring out how to patch the games. I think Blops Wii had 20+ patches or something crazy.
No black wii u at launch :'(
wait I wasn't going to get it at launchSoooo what fallout happened between EA and Nintendo in the last year? They were front and center on stage last year talking about how they were looking forward to the platform and now they have one laughable choice of a port committed. None of their sports games, no dead space, no need for speed, no battlefield. NADA.
EA probably wanted Origin, online passes, and they're business all up in the Wii U. Not compatible with wara wara.
I think the Wii U showing was better than the Wii back in E3 2006.
I don't know. At least Wii had Wii Sports back in 2006 as a proof of concept.Plus:
Upcoming games announced for the Wii included The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Super Mario Galaxy, Sonic and the Secret Rings, Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, Red Steel, Disaster: Day of Crisis, Project H.A.M.M.E.R., and Excite Truck.
are we still expecting those next year when neither was shown this year. usually its first e3 revel, second demos and launch that November
ya, its the lack of upcoming games that worries me most. If nintendo's own games are that far down the line then next year will be a bust as well.
But when you start reading about the new games and start watching them and hearing about them, it's actually pretty exciting. And given all these games will be launch or launch window titles, it's actually set up a really nice potential lineup for the system on Day 1.
NSMBWii is destined to be fantastic, it's a 2D Mario game after all. It's hard to doubt Nintendo after the brilliance that was NSMBWii.
Pikmin 3 likewise. There's virtually no doubt that it'll be excellent. We have no reason to doubt Nintendo on this either.
ZombiU looks genuinely unique for a zombie game and a really good survival horror experience. Seriously, read more about it because it appears to be far from a tech demo. I still think it could end up disappointing, but so far the signs look pretty good.
Rayman Legends seems to be an exclusive. Origins was fantastic and this doesn't appear to be any different.
And P-100 just looks wonderful. Super stylized, crazy as shit and a really novel concept.
In fact, that's what I love about all these games. In the midst of an E3 where it seems every second game is a third/first person shooter with set-pieces galore, it's nice to see stuff that's unique and different. None of the above games are alike, except for Mario and Rayman (but let's be honest, you can never have too many platformers). And two of them are new IPs as well, which is always nice to see.
And right there is five potential must-have games for the system, and all maybe from Day 1. Of course, your tastes could differ from mine and you might not regard some of those games as highly, but there's still some real variety there. Most launches only have one or two must-owns. Some (3DS) don't even have any.
And they're all exclusives as well.
Yes, it's amazing - it's just that people are reacting negatively (as they should) to the rather underwhelming Nintendo conference. If that never existed, there'd be more hype.
nom nom nom
According to them, ZombiU is da shit:QuoteYou guys are fucking nuts, looks way better than any FPS for current consoles.
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:lol add to emoticons plz
Seconded
... people are actually praising/spinning/defending this shit.He has been for several years now, and yes the kids have been chowin' down. :poop
That fat fuck Reggie could go toilet on these ppl's faces and they would eat that crap up
Pikmin3, Lego city, New SMBU, WiiFitU, Game&Wario, Nintendo land, Avengers, Tank Tank!, Project P-100
all are 720p no AA
tekken tag 2 WII-U
hm... that is definitely 1024x720 no AA
edit:oops, looks like one of the shots goes under (way under... ~810x560... hard to tell exactly). Guess it's dynamic.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477213QuoteBut when you start reading about the new games and start watching them and hearing about them, it's actually pretty exciting. And given all these games will be launch or launch window titles, it's actually set up a really nice potential lineup for the system on Day 1.
NSMBWii is destined to be fantastic, it's a 2D Mario game after all. It's hard to doubt Nintendo after the brilliance that was NSMBWii.
Pikmin 3 likewise. There's virtually no doubt that it'll be excellent. We have no reason to doubt Nintendo on this either.
ZombiU looks genuinely unique for a zombie game and a really good survival horror experience. Seriously, read more about it because it appears to be far from a tech demo. I still think it could end up disappointing, but so far the signs look pretty good.
Rayman Legends seems to be an exclusive. Origins was fantastic and this doesn't appear to be any different.
And P-100 just looks wonderful. Super stylized, crazy as shit and a really novel concept.
In fact, that's what I love about all these games. In the midst of an E3 where it seems every second game is a third/first person shooter with set-pieces galore, it's nice to see stuff that's unique and different. None of the above games are alike, except for Mario and Rayman (but let's be honest, you can never have too many platformers). And two of them are new IPs as well, which is always nice to see.
And right there is five potential must-have games for the system, and all maybe from Day 1. Of course, your tastes could differ from mine and you might not regard some of those games as highly, but there's still some real variety there. Most launches only have one or two must-owns. Some (3DS) don't even have any.
And they're all exclusives as well.QuoteYes, it's amazing - it's just that people are reacting negatively (as they should) to the rather underwhelming Nintendo conference. If that never existed, there'd be more hype.
I love Reggie. I hate Nintendo fans but I love Reggie.
What the fuck was he doing with the maxipad when he made that face
What the fuck was he doing with the maxipad when he made that face
you can use the camera to map a zombie face on yourself in that zombiu game
What the fuck was he doing with the maxipad when he made that face
Still I will never understand people who are hyped for and will be buying Batman or ME3 on the Wii U. Yeah it looked cool with new control scheme but it's the same damn game. There's not even an exclusive DLC or something.
Waste of 60 bucks.
3DS conference tonight at 9pm EST.... if anyone wants to watch with me <3
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477213
I hope they announce the redesign... 3DS looking very very tempting to me lately.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477213
Pikmin 3 looks great too.
3DS conference tonight at 9pm EST.... if anyone wants to watch with me <3
I will, demi-kun.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477213
Pikmin 3 looks great too.
Does it really? I'm not doubting that it will be a competent game gameplay wise, but it's looks very similar to the original games and is imo graphically a disappointment.
The whole ZombiU dick sucking is mind boggling, at least for a non-ntard like myself. If it was graphically impressive and going beyond what's out there I could understand but it's not. Not at all. It looks decidedly average, and the gameplay sounds decidedly average. Ubi releases this anywhere else and it'd end up completely forgotten.
You've got seemingly infinitely more interesting stuff coming out around the same time as this warmed over turd like Sleeping Dogs, Dishonored, Halo 4, Resident Evil 6, etc. but ZombiU is getting all this attention because it's the only turkey in an empty shop.
Was it to prevent online stalkers and pedophiles or something?
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I hope they announce the redesign... 3DS looking very very tempting to me lately.
I'm getting one regardless of announcement. Vita is dead, and WiiU is a Pikmin machine. No next-gen in sight. Fuck it, 3DS wins.
Just in time for Kingdom Hearts~
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No fucking way
David Gibson @gibbogame
Friendcodes- not completely eliminated, will still exist in some form but making friends much easier
Won't competer with msft or others for exclusive franchise support, want to take advantage of 190m WiiMote/45m Balance Board installed base
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477290QuoteWon't competer with msft or others for exclusive franchise support, want to take advantage of 190m WiiMote/45m Balance Board installed base
Has Nintendo been in a cave over the last 5 years?
Wait a minute, there are people out there who are actually hyped about Zombii-U?
Red Steel I could almost understand, with the bullshots released before everybody knew what Wii graphics would end up looking like, but this? Wow...
ZOMBU is like the only original ip from a 3rd party and it's rated M. Ntards will flock to that shit regardless of quality.Plus it's EXCLUSSSSSIIVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEE*!
Is it really called ZOMBU and not Zombie U?Neither,
So Pikmin 3 (which looks worse than Pikmin 2 on Dolphin) running @ 60 fps means this to nfags:QuoteThere are very very few games on the 360 and PS3 that run at 60 frames per second at 1280x720 res, so this is a step up from current consoles.
I have NO WORDS.
An E3 Poem
Wow, Takao, I had no idea you were über ready to cast this many stones. I guess MonHan selling 1.5+ million copies really got to you.
Anyhow, I'd love to stay and watch the 3DS conference, but I'll be in a party by the time it starts. Would someone please text if anything noteworthy is announced?
/Willco 120 pounds ago
Well as long as your behavior is out of genuine concern.
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Ubisoft's survivial horror game ZombiU is a key launch game for Wii U, but the publisher isn't ruling out the idea of bringing it to other platforms.
Speaking to IGN, a Ubisoft exec said the game could potentially be ported to Mcirosoft's new Xbox SmartGlass technology or the cross-play between Sony's PS3 and Vita.
But such a conversion wouldn't occur until well into 2013, and only if it holds true to ZombiU's original concept.
"ZombiU at its core was designed to be a great Wii U game and in order to make that work on other platforms, they would have to change a lot of what makes the game cool," said senior vice president of sales and marketing Tony Key.
"And I'm not saying that can't be done, but not in the next six months, you know?"
Key added that Ubisoft has considered bringing Wii launch title Red Steel to other platforms, but could not do so without losing the core appeal of the game: the motion controls.
However, the similarities between the Wii U GamePad and the multi-screen technologies on Xbox and PlayStation means Ubisoft will have more opportunities to bring its Nintendo exclusives to other platforms.
"There's definitely going to be knowledge that we gain from developing for Wii U that we'll be able to transfer not only to SmartGlass technology but to also to even the cross-talk on PlayStation 3 and Vita," said Key.
Messages posted no Nintendo’s new social media Miiverse could face a delay of around 30 minutes before appearing online.
President Satoru Iwata has said that the company will employ people, or “human resources” as he describes them, to actively moderate messages posted to the network.
So Pikmin 3 (which looks worse than Pikmin 2 on Dolphin) running @ 60 fps means this to nfags:QuoteThere are very very few games on the 360 and PS3 that run at 60 frames per second at 1280x720 res, so this is a step up from current consoles.
I have NO WORDS.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/e3-2012-miiverse-messages-will-be-moderated-delayed/097615QuoteMessages posted no Nintendo’s new social media Miiverse could face a delay of around 30 minutes before appearing online.
President Satoru Iwata has said that the company will employ people, or “human resources” as he describes them, to actively moderate messages posted to the network.
What a job to have.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/e3-2012-miiverse-messages-will-be-moderated-delayed/097615QuoteMessages posted no Nintendo’s new social media Miiverse could face a delay of around 30 minutes before appearing online.
President Satoru Iwata has said that the company will employ people, or “human resources” as he describes them, to actively moderate messages posted to the network.
What a job to have.
Even if, as some have said, the Wii U is only “as powerful” or “slightly more powerful than” current-gen systems, I don’t see the problem. I never hear anyone complain that iPad games don’t look as good as PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360 ones, for instance, or that PC games — now crunched by more than half-a-decade more powerful hardware than either the Xbox 360 or PS3 — are in any way superior because their visuals are more advanced.:lol :lol :lol
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/e3-2012-miiverse-messages-will-be-moderated-delayed/097615QuoteMessages posted no Nintendo’s new social media Miiverse could face a delay of around 30 minutes before appearing online.
President Satoru Iwata has said that the company will employ people, or “human resources” as he describes them, to actively moderate messages posted to the network.
What a job to have.
it's like a nintendling sleeper cell which silently nestled itself in to a prestigious position finally got the signal. or maybe he was just drunk all week and sourced his commentary from #nintengaf logs.Thank you E3 for providing me with this lovely aftermath to enjoy from my sickbed :lol
i appreciate the 1080p own-goal, though.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/e3-2012-miiverse-messages-will-be-moderated-delayed/097615QuoteMessages posted no Nintendo’s new social media Miiverse could face a delay of around 30 minutes before appearing online.
President Satoru Iwata has said that the company will employ people, or “human resources” as he describes them, to actively moderate messages posted to the network.
What a job to have.
Having seen Nintendo unveil the final version of the device at E3 this week, Molyneux expressed concern that having to repeatedly shift between looking at the GamePad and looking at the TV will be too demanding.
"I am not really decided about Wii U," he told Eurogamer's German cousins Games Industry Germany. "I watch people playing and they sometimes seem to be confused about which screen they should look at when they play with the tablet.
"I also feel that monitoring both screens turns out to be a bit demanding, as some games make it necessary to change your view from time to time between both screens."
Yusuf Mehdi, chief marketing officer for Microsoft's game business, echoed Molyneux's sentiment.
"One of the things that's interesting is, when you're playing a quick, real-time twitch game, how much can you look up and down between the screens?" he asked in an interview with GamesBeat.
"That's an interesting question. We've put a huge amount of design into how we do our controllers to understand user experience, and there's a lot in there that I think.. This controller has a lot of science behind it, about why it works great for different types of gaming."
"I believe this approach is actually better because what we're doing is embracing it as truly a supporting screen," he said. "Not as the thing you should be looking at. Therefore, it needs to light up, it needs to notify you, it needs to actually provide content that's relevant in that example.
"So I feel pretty good about that. I certainly don't think there are any latency issues there. You can use any device for control, for tabbing, for browsing, for watching movies. It's got a richer platform for things."
Haha, in that GAF thread people are talking about developers needing more time to unlock the power of the WiiU and how art direction is more important than graphics anyway. It really is the Wii all over again. :lol
And also "Trine 2 looks amazing", $15 XBLA really show off the abilities of the WiiU guys!
Trine 2 is one of the best looking this gen games, Joe. Even on PC.
The Trine 2 reactions kill me.
Where were these people last year when it came out?
But it's gonna be really awesome on the WiiU, Eel. Better delete some save games to make room on your 8GB internal storage.
they're using underpowered hardware to simultaneously pump to the tv and the tablet screen, any game that makes use of the controller in any meaningful way is gonna be sub-HD and lower fps
they're using underpowered hardware to simultaneously pump to the tv and the tablet screen, any game that makes use of the controller in any meaningful way is gonna be sub-HD and lower fps
Also surprised that Nintendo didn't dump out some quick HD ports to fill out the lineup. Skyward Sword: Unabashed or something.
Nintendo is just thinking that your friends won't have a Wii U, so why bother implementing it.
Every game is 60wps, though (whimsys per second).
wtf, that's super embarrassing.
It's gonna take Nintendo a few years before they figure out how to use shaders. But who needs shaders when you got good art and 60fps?
It's gonna take Nintendo a few years before they figure out how to use shaders. But who needs shaders when you got good art and 60fps?
I honestly don't know much about 3D graphics, what exactly are shaders (I assume they are for stuff like bump mapping and the metallic effect on Metal Mario in SM64) and why do certain companies have so much trouble with them?
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Why do Wii U games look like Wii ones?
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Why do Wii U games look like Wii ones?
I am hoping next gen consoles have space for different graphic level games and different price points for games. That's one of the things I like about Steam, the way you can have Skyrim and Terraria side by side and it not be an issue.
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Why do Wii U games look like Wii ones?
Scribblenauts was such a piece of junk. Whoever pimped that game on GAF really should've been paid, because lawdy that game didn't deserve it.
Also, that weird cover reminds me of those 360 face plates MS was trying to sell early this gen.
I am hoping next gen consoles have space for different graphic level games and different price points for games. That's one of the things I like about Steam, the way you can have Skyrim and Terraria side by side and it not be an issue.
they already have that. it's called xbla.
Every game is 60wps, though (whimsys per second).
IGN: Actually, regarding Pikmin, is that launch, launch window, is that some time off in the future...?
Fils-Aime: So we've said that that's launch window. Everything that we've shown from a first-party perspective is definitely launch window.
IGN: And launch window is the first couple months? Something like that?
Fils-Aime: Eh... More than that. It's launch plus the following three to four months.
It's really strange to see the selection of ports that the system is getting. Shit like Batman and NG3 instead of this year's big hitters like COD and RE6, those might actually make an impact, and I could really see RE6 benefiting from the tablet. The Wii U just confuses me, I just hope that the Japanese side of launch can make me actually interested in the damn system.
Watching Nintendo fansites talk about NG3 in a positive manner is kind of funny since it's more or less a known fact that the game sucks.
Seriously, who greenlit this shit? What person is going to buy a $300 system to play a $60 game he most likely played a month ago on the 360? They need a legit game, not fucking Alien Space Marinez
What's the deal with Ubisoft anyway? are they stupid or easily bought? because Ubi is making the only third party exclusives for Wii U and Vita.
Im drunk and i want pikmin 3 and the wii u now!!Just get a copy of New Play Control Pikmin, draw a 3 on the box, and presto! You are now playing Pikmin 3.
Im drunk and i want pikmin 3 and the wii u now!!
you like it up the bum but only when you are drunk?Im drunk and i want pikmin 3 and the wii u now!!
Well, you certainly wouldn't want it if you were sober. So I guess the Wii U is like anal?
Im drunk and i want pikmin 3 and the wii u now!!
Well, you certainly wouldn't want it if you were sober. So I guess the Wii U is like anal?
you like it up the bum but only when you are drunk?
Nintendo was originally planning the big reveal of Retro Studios' new game at the end of their press conference, but in the last minute Retro decided that "it wasn't ready."
My job is to launch the system and to drive its installed base, and we're going to do that very effectively. And then hopefully that will create the opportunity for third parties to jump on board.
Bet they saw some of the other stuff like 1313/Watch Dogs/Last of Us and realised it would just look bad.QuoteNintendo was originally planning the big reveal of Retro Studios' new game at the end of their press conference, but in the last minute Retro decided that "it wasn't ready."
a dog ate my announcement
The central processing unit (CPU) of the U Wii is as powerful as the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, but the graphics processing unit (GPU) is one and a half times as strong. That is what an employee of Ubisoft stated to Insidegamer.
Ubisoft provided this information from a gameplay demo of Assassin's Creed 3. The editor of Insidegamer noting however that the game is on Wii U currently less good looking than the other consoles, with less detail and less constant framerate.
This can still be solved; because the Wii U is a new console, developers are still getting used to develop for the device. According to Ubisoft Assassin's Creed for Wii U will, at the time of release, be of the same quality as the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions.
Scribblenauts was such a piece of junk. Whoever pimped that game on GAF really should've been paid, because lawdy that game didn't deserve it.
Scribblenauts was such a piece of junk. Whoever pimped that game on GAF really should've been paid, because lawdy that game didn't deserve it.
that text plus the general hype made me actually get that game.
BIG MISTAKE as the game was a steaming pile of shit :-\
Cab't believe Nintendo has to beg 3rd parties AGAIN for ports of PS360 games.They made their own bed, they cant complain about it now. Especially with the meek courting of third parties.
Cab't believe Nintendo has to beg 3rd parties AGAIN for ports of PS360 games.
Hasn't EVERY Nintendo "insider" around there been full of shit?
To be fair,most of them had second,third hand info.There were some with first hand info,but that was quickly dismissed...lololol troll
but imo,it's all about the budget
When you have illusions of grandeur at becoming a lauded forum insider you need to ask yourself "why". There are bigger problems in your life if you need internet fandom/infamy to survive.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-we-know-nintendo-has-lost-its-mind/
Let's face it, this system is set up for a very lonely, friendless type of person. Because if you do have friends, and you're choosing to play a game instead of hanging out with them, it means you want some uninterrupted alone time. So the only personality this system appeals to is people who typically make most of their friends online, through games.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-we-know-nintendo-has-lost-its-mind/
So was I :( I also bought Drawn to Life, another piece of junk from the same studio. Never buying another 5th Cell game again.
again, it's for kids, you goddam distinguished mentally-challenged fellows. you're basically cursing the lack of literary content in a hamburglar colouring book here.
So was I :( I also bought Drawn to Life, another piece of junk from the same studio. Never buying another 5th Cell game again.
again, it's for kids, you goddam distinguished mentally-challenged fellows. you're basically cursing the lack of literary content in a hamburglar colouring book here.
But you have the mind of a 12 year old, Magus.
correct. those are all meant for families to enjoy. sit a four year old in front of them and watch them cry as they can't pass the second fucking level.
scribblenauts and ESPECIALLY drawn to life are the teletubbies of gaming. you guys were dumb enough to listen to gaf-hype and buy them, and now you can't just own up to the fact that you actually believed there was something deeper there just cuz some random guy named feep told you so.
Never heard of Scribblenauts till this thread.
I was standing in line to try ZombiU Tuesday afternoon when you asked me if I wanted to zombify myself. I happily obliged, and you laughed heartily as I made zombie noises and faces. I almost made it to the front of the line when I had to get going. You seemed genuinely upset that I wasn't able to play, but I told you I'd be back tomorrow.
Sure enough, I returned bright and early on Wednesday (wearing the same blue backpack and the same style of black shirt with the logo of the website I write for, but not the same exact shirt), and you looked pleased that I returned, your eyes positively sparkling. We made a little small talk as I made my way up the line and into the demo area. After I reemerged, I asked you if I could get a picture of you. You said yes and after I snapped the photo I asked you your name (Really should have done that on day one.) and you replied "Jane." We shook hands, wished each other well and I was on my way.
Now I realize you must get hit on ALL. THE. TIME in your line of work, and I realize you probably weren't any more or less friendly and accommodating toward me as any other attendee, but out of all the hundreds of beautiful women at the show, you're the only one who's truly stuck in my head, and I can't put my finger on any one reason. Maybe it's your dark, flowing hair, your ready smile, your toned, tan little body, the aforementioned sparkling eyes, your playful laugh, your personable demeanor or some combination of those things (or something that simply can't be quantified)...I don't know!
All I do know is that I enjoyed being around you, I enjoyed looking at you (and, I'll admit it, enjoyed not seeing a ring on your left hand), and would be honored if you deem me worthy of a chance to get know you better. Even if you never see this - and none of your fellow Ubisoft, uh, "brand ambassadors" see this and forward it to you - at least this will (hopefully) put my mind at ease. Thanks for reading.
would be honored if you deem me worthy of a chance to get know you better
Gold from Craigslist:sounds like the dude wants to stuff her in a jar like a bug or some shitQuoteI was standing in line to try ZombiU Tuesday afternoon when you asked me if I wanted to zombify myself. I happily obliged, and you laughed heartily as I made zombie noises and faces. I almost made it to the front of the line when I had to get going. You seemed genuinely upset that I wasn't able to play, but I told you I'd be back tomorrow.
Sure enough, I returned bright and early on Wednesday (wearing the same blue backpack and the same style of black shirt with the logo of the website I write for, but not the same exact shirt), and you looked pleased that I returned, your eyes positively sparkling. We made a little small talk as I made my way up the line and into the demo area. After I reemerged, I asked you if I could get a picture of you. You said yes and after I snapped the photo I asked you your name (Really should have done that on day one.) and you replied "Jane." We shook hands, wished each other well and I was on my way.
Now I realize you must get hit on ALL. THE. TIME in your line of work, and I realize you probably weren't any more or less friendly and accommodating toward me as any other attendee, but out of all the hundreds of beautiful women at the show, you're the only one who's truly stuck in my head, and I can't put my finger on any one reason. Maybe it's your dark, flowing hair, your ready smile, your toned, tan little body, the aforementioned sparkling eyes, your playful laugh, your personable demeanor or some combination of those things (or something that simply can't be quantified)...I don't know!
All I do know is that I enjoyed being around you, I enjoyed looking at you (and, I'll admit it, enjoyed not seeing a ring on your left hand), and would be honored if you deem me worthy of a chance to get know you better. Even if you never see this - and none of your fellow Ubisoft, uh, "brand ambassadors" see this and forward it to you - at least this will (hopefully) put my mind at ease. Thanks for reading.spoiler (click to show/hide)Her name was not Jane.[close]
I was like 13 when I got Drawn to Life. I hadn't heard of NeoGAF back then and just thought the game had a really cool concept of drawing your main character.
Gold from Craigslist:QuoteI was standing in line to try ZombiU Tuesday afternoon when you asked me if I wanted to zombify myself. I happily obliged, and you laughed heartily as I made zombie noises and faces. I almost made it to the front of the line when I had to get going. You seemed genuinely upset that I wasn't able to play, but I told you I'd be back tomorrow.
Sure enough, I returned bright and early on Wednesday (wearing the same blue backpack and the same style of black shirt with the logo of the website I write for, but not the same exact shirt), and you looked pleased that I returned, your eyes positively sparkling. We made a little small talk as I made my way up the line and into the demo area. After I reemerged, I asked you if I could get a picture of you. You said yes and after I snapped the photo I asked you your name (Really should have done that on day one.) and you replied "Jane." We shook hands, wished each other well and I was on my way.
Now I realize you must get hit on ALL. THE. TIME in your line of work, and I realize you probably weren't any more or less friendly and accommodating toward me as any other attendee, but out of all the hundreds of beautiful women at the show, you're the only one who's truly stuck in my head, and I can't put my finger on any one reason. Maybe it's your dark, flowing hair, your ready smile, your toned, tan little body, the aforementioned sparkling eyes, your playful laugh, your personable demeanor or some combination of those things (or something that simply can't be quantified)...I don't know!
All I do know is that I enjoyed being around you, I enjoyed looking at you (and, I'll admit it, enjoyed not seeing a ring on your left hand), and would be honored if you deem me worthy of a chance to get know you better. Even if you never see this - and none of your fellow Ubisoft, uh, "brand ambassadors" see this and forward it to you - at least this will (hopefully) put my mind at ease. Thanks for reading.spoiler (click to show/hide)Her name was not Jane.[close]
It's mildly janky, and if you buy into the main idea, that jank is easily forgiven.
Am I the only one that doesn't like the look of Trine 2? I can't barely see the characters and to be honest the game looks like a fucking Modus artwork, maybe I'm getting too old for this shit.
It's mildly janky, and if you buy into the main idea, that jank is easily forgiven.
See: Western RPGs
Gold from Craigslist:QuoteI was standing in line to try ZombiU Tuesday afternoon when you asked me if I wanted to zombify myself. I happily obliged, and you laughed heartily as I made zombie noises and faces. I almost made it to the front of the line when I had to get going. You seemed genuinely upset that I wasn't able to play, but I told you I'd be back tomorrow.
Sure enough, I returned bright and early on Wednesday (wearing the same blue backpack and the same style of black shirt with the logo of the website I write for, but not the same exact shirt), and you looked pleased that I returned, your eyes positively sparkling. We made a little small talk as I made my way up the line and into the demo area. After I reemerged, I asked you if I could get a picture of you. You said yes and after I snapped the photo I asked you your name (Really should have done that on day one.) and you replied "Jane." We shook hands, wished each other well and I was on my way.
Now I realize you must get hit on ALL. THE. TIME in your line of work, and I realize you probably weren't any more or less friendly and accommodating toward me as any other attendee, but out of all the hundreds of beautiful women at the show, you're the only one who's truly stuck in my head, and I can't put my finger on any one reason. Maybe it's your dark, flowing hair, your ready smile, your toned, tan little body, the aforementioned sparkling eyes, your playful laugh, your personable demeanor or some combination of those things (or something that simply can't be quantified)...I don't know!
All I do know is that I enjoyed being around you, I enjoyed looking at you (and, I'll admit it, enjoyed not seeing a ring on your left hand), and would be honored if you deem me worthy of a chance to get know you better. Even if you never see this - and none of your fellow Ubisoft, uh, "brand ambassadors" see this and forward it to you - at least this will (hopefully) put my mind at ease. Thanks for reading.spoiler (click to show/hide)Her name was not Jane.[close]
"I enjoyed looking at you" :-\
I had incredibly low expectations and the fact Nintendo managed to limbo dance under those -with consumate ease- has left me howling with laughter.
Also - the bad news for nthings hasn't finished yet! trolololol.
bore was up for hosting renewal - so paid up for another year.
bore was up for hosting renewal - so paid up for another year. If i'm going to pay for it, then i'm damned sure i'm going to troll on it.
I already expected this to happen. So where to start?
Last year, Silicon Knights and Nintendo started to work together once again on a new title. Based on the fact that they already had Wii U dev kits and also based on Dyack's comments, it was Eternal Darkness 2.
With Nintendo being a major owner of Silicon Knights, they were pretty much the studio's last saviour. After the commercial and critical failure of Too Human, just as well as long delays of both Too Human and The Ritualist (Sega, later THQ), Silicon Knights was pretty much avoided by 3rd parties. While they still got a contract for X-Men Destiny, the title received miserable reviews. All of this led to a series of layoffs, going from 150 employees in 2007 to only 40 in 2012.
Of course, the Epic trial was not much of a help either. While SK already had a buckload of debt (e.g., a loan which needs to be paid back next year to the government (?)), 3rd party publishers feared that if SK lost the trial, SK would close shops and the game would end up unfinished.
So as already mentioned, the studio was solely dependent on Nintendo's goodwill since late November 2011. But then the trial against Epic took place last week, and SK lost it. SK was ordered to pay 4.5 mio USD to Epic, and additionally they may need to pay for Epic's legal fees (any idea about that amount? Should it be above one million?). The company's debt rose to a new level.
That's apparently when Nintendo noticed that things may not look as shiny anymore. I do not know what the budget for a mid-tier HD game like Eternal Darkness 2 would have been, perhaps 40, perhaps 50 millions USD? When Nintendo saw that they would need to pay an additional 10 million USD to have the company survive that develops the game, they didn't seem to like it, especially as they wouldn't get anything in return. This has happened in the past too, do you remember Factor 5?
So it looks like there have been internal discussions between Nintendo and Silicon Knights. NCL reviewed its decision and it appears as if Eternal Darkness 2 is cancelled for now. Hence, many of the 40-man team were laid off, leaving the studio in limbo now.
Obviously, Dyack anticipated what was to come. He did not comment on the outcome of the trial except for saying that they will appeal - that appears to be a last attempt to save the studio now; they've got nothing to lose anymore.
Good luck to all employees who lost their job!
did anybody see this;probably deserves a new thread
Shiggy from gafQuoteI already expected this to happen. So where to start?
Last year, Silicon Knights and Nintendo started to work together once again on a new title. Based on the fact that they already had Wii U dev kits and also based on Dyack's comments, it was Eternal Darkness 2.
With Nintendo being a major owner of Silicon Knights, they were pretty much the studio's last saviour. After the commercial and critical failure of Too Human, just as well as long delays of both Too Human and The Ritualist (Sega, later THQ), Silicon Knights was pretty much avoided by 3rd parties. While they still got a contract for X-Men Destiny, the title received miserable reviews. All of this led to a series of layoffs, going from 150 employees in 2007 to only 40 in 2012.
Of course, the Epic trial was not much of a help either. While SK already had a buckload of debt (e.g., a loan which needs to be paid back next year to the government (?)), 3rd party publishers feared that if SK lost the trial, SK would close shops and the game would end up unfinished.
So as already mentioned, the studio was solely dependent on Nintendo's goodwill since late November 2011. But then the trial against Epic took place last week, and SK lost it. SK was ordered to pay 4.5 mio USD to Epic, and additionally they may need to pay for Epic's legal fees (any idea about that amount? Should it be above one million?). The company's debt rose to a new level.
That's apparently when Nintendo noticed that things may not look as shiny anymore. I do not know what the budget for a mid-tier HD game like Eternal Darkness 2 would have been, perhaps 40, perhaps 50 millions USD? When Nintendo saw that they would need to pay an additional 10 million USD to have the company survive that develops the game, they didn't seem to like it, especially as they wouldn't get anything in return. This has happened in the past too, do you remember Factor 5?
So it looks like there have been internal discussions between Nintendo and Silicon Knights. NCL reviewed its decision and it appears as if Eternal Darkness 2 is cancelled for now. Hence, many of the 40-man team were laid off, leaving the studio in limbo now.
Obviously, Dyack anticipated what was to come. He did not comment on the outcome of the trial except for saying that they will appeal - that appears to be a last attempt to save the studio now; they've got nothing to lose anymore.
Good luck to all employees who lost their job!
meh, SK's situation is their fault and their fault alone. i feel sorry for the employees (apart from dyack) but as an Ontarian taxpayer, i won't be sad to see them gone, at all.
bore was up for hosting renewal - so paid up for another year. If i'm going to pay for it, then i'm damned sure i'm going to troll on it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477769&page=3
I believe Nintendo fans have started to feign ignorance to test the sanity of NeoGAF posters. This particular fellow called "Holy Wars" is currently having his faith tested harder than finding a dinosaur bone in his back yard.
As I said in another thread, wii u is going to surprise ppl. There's no way to judge the console based on obvious 360/PS3 ports and unoptimized games. The final devkit is VERY recent and couldn't be integrated before E3
WiiU is like two Wii's duct-taped together, confirmed.
I like the guy with the Reggie/Ganondorf avatar that says Nintendoland may be running at 720p as "an artistic choice." Seems like a pretty stable, level-headed guy.spoiler (click to show/hide)autistic choice more like, amirite?[close]
it's 2 xbox 360's duct-taped together.
Eguchi on Wii U resolution/framerates…
“As far as the resolution and framerates for any of the software goes, it’ll obviously depend on whatever the developer feels is the best way to get the best experience to the player. I can’t personally speak for third-parties and their circumstances, but at Nintendo we have different teams working on different games that take into consideration the resolution… and if they think that by focusing on 720p and a certain framerate to get a certain experience, than that’s ultimately how they make their decisions. It’s worth it to point out that we might consider using 1080p, but, for example, if we want to get 60 fps, at a particular stage of development, it may seem 720p is more realistic.”
Eguchi on Nintendo Land’s framerate…
“To be precise, almost all of the attractions will run at 60 fps. There’s just one particular case of an attraction that, playing at the absolute maximum number of players, would take a framerate drop… but by and large, all will run at 60 fps. But for example, in the attraction that does have a framerate drop, we wouldn’t make that concession unless we were sure the experience to the player was still up to our standards.”
I don't care about the CPU, I just need to know what 4000 series Radeon Mobility variant the GPU is.
I don't care about the CPU, I just need to know what 4000 series Radeon Mobility variant the GPU is.
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Some of Nintendo's top game designers don't want to put Achievements in their games, but Nintendo has put an Achievement-like system in the 3DS, mostly to reward people for feats involving the system's Street Pass networking system. In other words, the system itself has Achievements. "We will have that," Fils-Aime said. "Once you start getting into game-specific [Achievements] that's developer driven." Microsoft may require every game to have Achievements, but, Fils-Aime said, "That is not our philosophy."
IGN: One of the things I think Pikmin 2 really drove home was the element of cooperative gameplay, and just multiplayer in general, allowing more than one player to play together. Can people expect the same from Pikmin 3? Perhaps even online Pikmin?
Miyamoto: Everyone asks that question! [laughter]
So in the case of Mario Kart, we did have online multiplayer, and that's something that... You have to be very careful that you don't drop frames as you're trying to sync up with other players over what could be a very great physical distance, over the internet. But in the situation of Pikmin, for example, since you would have lots of individual, small creatures, the Pikmin, whose every movement and location is going to be really important in the game, it would be very difficult to sync up over an internet connection.
So I think what we've decided to do is focus on the single-player and local multiplayer aspects, which are really fun. But unfortunately, no online multiplayer for Pikmin 3. But the co-op local multiplayer is really fun.
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QuoteIGN: One of the things I think Pikmin 2 really drove home was the element of cooperative gameplay, and just multiplayer in general, allowing more than one player to play together. Can people expect the same from Pikmin 3? Perhaps even online Pikmin?
Miyamoto: Everyone asks that question! [laughter]
So in the case of Mario Kart, we did have online multiplayer, and that's something that... You have to be very careful that you don't drop frames as you're trying to sync up with other players over what could be a very great physical distance, over the internet. But in the situation of Pikmin, for example, since you would have lots of individual, small creatures, the Pikmin, whose every movement and location is going to be really important in the game, it would be very difficult to sync up over an internet connection.
So I think what we've decided to do is focus on the single-player and local multiplayer aspects, which are really fun. But unfortunately, no online multiplayer for Pikmin 3. But the co-op local multiplayer is really fun.
i give exactly 0 shit about multiplayer pikmin but it's hilarious that after all that crap about social and online,one of their first game is going to have local multiplayer but not online :rofl
I never really cared about graphics just need something that isnt abhorrent. So if Nintendo releases anything worthwhile like a sequel to Xenoblade Chronicles, i will buy it.
I never really cared about graphics just need something that isnt abhorrent. So if Nintendo releases anything worthwhile like a sequel to Xenoblade Chronicles, i will buy it.
I never really cared about graphics just need something that isnt abhorrent. So if Nintendo releases anything worthwhile like a sequel to Xenoblade Chronicles, i will buy it.
> isn't abhorrent
> WiiU
Touch the picture that shows how you feel.
QuoteTouch the picture that shows how you feel.
I want to touch two of those pictures at the same time but the Nintendo Mothership has told me i like single touch because it's much more accurate and any device using multitouch is not suitable for my needs.
Can you please add a "Sad and Scared" button please?
See ! with good software design and Nintendo Magic you don't NEED technological progress.
no online for Pikmin 3 makes it pretty worthless to me. Pikmin 2 again in HD. Then again, it's an RTS and RTS games aren't known for online multiplayer.
Pikmin 2 again in HD. Then again, it's an RTS and RTS games aren't known for online multiplayer.:rofl
i don't really care if not every games ever has achievements but i want them to be globalized (err how can i explain this... like rune factory 3 has achievements but they are exclusive to the games,they don't add to a general score nor there is any page in my profile where it says "you were awesome with that game!") it also would be neat if they could put some extra about them,like i would love if each achievement gave you trophies a-la smash bros
no online for Pikmin 3 makes it pretty worthless to me. Pikmin 2 again in HD. Then again, it's an RTS and RTS games aren't known for online multiplayer.
Testosterone: I finally discovered why I hate so many modern games.
It seems like the longer I watch this industry progress, the further from me it moves. It is slowly severing its connections with innovation, artistic expression, or even just plain fun. We see fewer games like ‘Flower’ and more games like ‘Call of Duty’. Fewer games like ‘Zelda’ and more games like ‘Darksiders’. Fewer games like ‘Mario Kart’ and more games like ‘Forza’. The longer I look at it, the worse it seems to get. Profits go up, but my enjoyment goes down.
I never really understood why I felt this way- at least not in any tangible, communicable sense- but finally I figured it out. It’s all because of testosterone. It’s all because of that weird, obscure concept of “manliness” as though it is something that even exists, much less is important.
This all started when I was watching Microsoft’s E3 press conference last week, wondering if I’d find anything interesting (sidenote: I didn’t), when something peculiar happened. Game after game after game came on screen, and gun after gun after gun was fired, and explosion after explosion after explosion was… uh… exploded, but none of it interested me at all. Each time something new was shown, I felt like I’d seen it before. It came across as bland, uninteresting, and generic. I’ve felt this way for a while, but the best I could do to describe it to people was to say that I just didn’t like “realistic” games, or “action-packed” games. These adjectives were close, but they didn’t quite hit the nail on the head. Now, after a few hours of thinking about it, I know exactly why I don’t like all of the games I constantly see, and I think it describes a big part of the reason why Nintendo is the favorite game company of so many.
Let me start with that example that some of you may have found odd: ‘Zelda’ and ‘Darksiders’. A lot of people who played the latter of these two games called it a ‘more mature Zelda’. But no. “Mature” is definitely not the word I would use there. Zelda is mature beyond its appearance, and- much like Pixar movies- has a remarkable way of connecting with wide audiences no matter the age rating or art style. It is, without a doubt, more mature than ‘Darksiders’.
What the reviewers perhaps meant to say is that it was a “manlier” Zelda. One with more testosterone. A game that did its best to fit as many scary faces and big muscles and violence and sweat and blood and darkness and grit as it possibly could into one package- and maybe in that sense it succeeded. But this is the exact reason why I don’t like Darksiders and so many other games in concept. They’re all so uselessly manly.
At the Microsoft conference, they pretty much talked about three things: Guns, sports, and cars. Three of the “manliest” things in existence, and three things that I will never understand the insane hype behind. Why do we suppose they talked about these things?
Anyone?
The answer is that they sell.
Every single one of those games that I “just don’t like” has this one thing in common. They all have guns or sports or cars or scantily clad women or blood or explosions. Just a bunch of stupid, mindless drivel that is put in there not for the sake of gameplay, not for the sake of storytelling, and not for the sake of “making it immersive”. It’s put in there because the people behind these games (Activision, EA, Ubisoft, etc etc etc) know that this is what people are buying. They look at the trends, and make games based around it.
Now, extrapolate this newfound wisdom to the current round of consoles. The PS360 is primarily made up of these testosterone-y games; ones filled with gritty realism, guns, explosions, and whatever else they can fit in there that will validate our existence as “men”, either on a very blatant level (Call of Duty) or a more subtle plane. Even the best games like Mass Effect and Grand Theft Auto still strike me as a little dull, despite the fact that I enjoyed similar games on older consoles. There’s just too much realism. Too many guns. Too much badassery. I don’t want to see all of their pores and hairs and each wrinkle on someone’s face. It destroys the atmosphere to have so much detail. I don’t get it.
The Wii? It’s filled with artistic, weird, and unique games. Fragile, No More Heroes, Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Muramasa, Little King’s Story, etc. All of the best Wii games don’t concern themselves with testosterone or manliness. They concern themselves with being games, pieces of art, or innovations. No, they aren’t all amazing, but they also aren’t stupid and manly and detailed. I love it.
And you know what the most noticeable difference between Nintendo-platform games (pre-Wii U anyway) and other platforms’ games? The characters. The heroes from the greatest Wii and DS games never have huge muscles, rugged voices, or overbearing personalities. They’re characters like Phoenix Wright, Link, Mario, Travis Touchdown, and Seto. Unique characters about whom you can know something simply by looking at them, and characters who aren’t quite like anyone else you’ve met. Hell, the closest Nintendo has ever come to playing into a stereotype is with Samus and her slim, attractive body. Yet even then, she was born out of breaking a stereotype, and to this day she more often resides in a very thick metallic casing than in her skin-tight under suit.
So, to all of you guys out there who laugh when someone says their favorite developer is Nintendo or that their favorite game is something other than “MANdden NHL 2K10: An Explosion of Testosterone*: It’s not because we’re fanboys. It’s because we just don’t care about your useless, subconscious quest for needing to see the most manly and most explosion-y thing since ‘Avatar’ came out.
No More Heroes was full of blood, tits and sex jokes, and there are plenty of what he refers to as "non-manly titles" on the 360 and PS3. The dude's thesis fails horribly.
So, to all of you guys out there who laugh when someone says their favorite developer is Nintendo or that their favorite game is something other than “MANdden NHL 2K10: An Explosion of Testosterone*: It’s not because we’re fanboys. It’s because we just don’t care about your useless, subconscious quest for needing to see the most manly and most explosion-y thing since ‘Avatar’ came out
mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi. mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi. mi mi mi. miiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. mi mi mi.
huge muscles, rugged voices, or overbearing personalities.
The Wii? It’s filled with artistic, weird, and unique games. Fragile, No More Heroes, Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Muramasa, Little King’s Story, etc. All of the best Wii games don’t concern themselves with testosterone or manliness. They concern themselves with being games, pieces of art, or innovations. No, they aren’t all amazing, but they also aren’t stupid and manly and detailed. I love it.
It’s filled with artistic, weird, and unique games. Fragile, No More Heroes, Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Muramasa, Little King’s Story, etc.
QuoteIt’s filled with artistic, weird, and unique games. Fragile, No More Heroes, Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Muramasa, Little King’s Story, etc.
???
i am a bit of a fan of the whimsy and feel a severe disconnect with a lot of what is popular in gaming these days, and i was still rolling my eyes hard reading that shit
i am a bit of a fan of the whimsy and feel a severe disconnect with a lot of what is popular in gaming these days, and i was still rolling my eyes hard reading that shit
i don't really care if not every games ever has achievements but i want them to be globalized (err how can i explain this... like rune factory 3 has achievements but they are exclusive to the games,they don't add to a general score nor there is any page in my profile where it says "you were awesome with that game!") it also would be neat if they could put some extra about them,like i would love if each achievement gave you trophies a-la smash bros
the x360 doesn't have that feature either, that is if you are a filthy pirate with an offline box
Its the best place for Nintendo news. I need good sites for Sony and MS news too.
yeah, the problem is the whole stance of "it's not that we are fanboys ... but we don't like anything on your platform whilst our platform is FULL of unique, awesome, brilliant, fresh, incredible experiences!"
I am on board for part of the message in that there's a glut of samey-samey stuff out there that is overly Dark World of Grey (BLACK EDITION) and Sepia in My Mittens 3 : Brown's Adventure in Mauveland, but the Wii and DS is also cram full of shovel ware "Let us be doing the low budget TOUCH or WAGGLE! with cartoon figurehead ! Will this Do? Edition" type titles.
i don't really care if not every games ever has achievements but i want them to be globalized (err how can i explain this... like rune factory 3 has achievements but they are exclusive to the games,they don't add to a general score nor there is any page in my profile where it says "you were awesome with that game!") it also would be neat if they could put some extra about them,like i would love if each achievement gave you trophies a-la smash bros
the x360 doesn't have that feature either, that is if you are a filthy pirate with an offline box
wha? i have a page that list all the game i 1000/1000
QuoteIt’s filled with artistic, weird, and unique games. Fragile, No More Heroes, Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Muramasa, Little King’s Story, etc.
???
Well no one copies them well so they certainly are unique. The only game that copied and comes close to the quality of those games is Alundra.
P.S. he should have left out both no more heroes and muramasa. Nothing unique, weird or or artistic about those games.
i think the wii was doing fine at the beginning,i remember enjoying some nice games like chocobo mysterious dungeon or zack & wiki (funny how these keep getting forgotten while that piece of crap of no more heroes gets name dropped) but somewhere along the road everybody stopped giving a fuck,including nintendo... i mean i can sorta understand third party but even nintendo?
Well no one copies them well so they certainly are unique. The only game that copied and comes close to the quality of those games is Alundra.(http://i.imgur.com/86XpY.gif)
Zelda clones: Gunman's Proof, Crusader of Centy (great game), Final Fantasy Adventure/Seiken Densetsu 1, Sphinx the Cursed Mummy, that weird Korean Wind Waker knockoff
Mario Kart clones: CTR, Konami Kart Racers, that Jaguar kart racer game, there's been a whole bunch
Mario clones: like 33% of 8/16 bit era games :P
Zelda clones: Gunman's Proof, Crusader of Centy (great game), Final Fantasy Adventure/Seiken Densetsu 1, Sphinx the Cursed Mummy, that weird Korean Wind Waker knockoff
Mario Kart clones: CTR, Konami Kart Racers, that Jaguar kart racer game, there's been a whole bunch
Mario clones: like 33% of 8/16 bit era games :P
My point wasnt that there werent knockoffs, just that they werent as good or better than the Nintendo originals other than Alundra. That said i havent played half of the zelda clones you mentioned.
the palest imitations of zelda games these days are the ones nintendo themselves are creating
Atelier Meruru was great!
needed more over sexualized little girls/
6/10
Can't wait to play this hardcore bloody explosion game on my Manstation 3. :rock
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61suqnyz25L.jpg)
Can't wait to play this hardcore bloody explosion game on my Manstation 3. :rock
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61suqnyz25L.jpg)
Is this out in America? I need to get this and Gungnir.
yeah, adult asian women are certainly known for their hefty bosomsI once saw a pic of what I assume to be a porn actress with gigantic boobs laying in a melon patch with a melon bra.
link?
Also I'm in the camp that loved Skyward Sword for the good parts. But man when it got bad it just went off the deep end.
Darksiders :rock
YES! :rock
Darksiders is greatness! My love for that game is in how different it is while at the same time taking the best parts of other games and putting them together. Its not a Zelda clone, it took the template and actually expanded upon it. Such a great game.
Darksiders is probably a game that i would never play that is much better than Zelda. For some reason i have no interest in it.
Oh fucking nut up already and play it. I wasn't interested in it at all until Prole convinced me to try it out and I haven't regretted it. Its better than anything Nintendo could ever come up with anytime soon.
Also I'm in the camp that loved Skyward Sword for the good parts. But man when it got bad it just went off the deep end.
needed more over sexualized little girls/
6/10
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Yeah, the whole thing feels really "not ready for prime time" in a way that is unusual for Nintendo. I dunno, I still think this thing has disaster written all over it. Nintendo execs have got to be suspecting the same thing after the lukewarm E3 response. This ain't no Wii.
Nintendo: Good Enough™
"I think that what we see in terms of online gaming networks on existing dedicated gaming platforms is not particularly well suited to the approach Nintendo has taken," he said.
"Therefore, I can't sit here and say to you that we can very quickly overcome or catch up to other companies, which began to work in the online field from many years ago and have been building these online networks on other platforms, and I don't think that would be a smart strategy, either."
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/353614/iwata-xbox-live-and-psn-are-too-far-developed-for-nintendo-to-catch-up/Quote"I think that what we see in terms of online gaming networks on existing dedicated gaming platforms is not particularly well suited to the approach Nintendo has taken," he said.
"Therefore, I can't sit here and say to you that we can very quickly overcome or catch up to other companies, which began to work in the online field from many years ago and have been building these online networks on other platforms, and I don't think that would be a smart strategy, either."
Nintendo ignoring the most and doing their own thing it looks like
"So instead we'll just implement a few pointless social features and call it a day."
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/353614/iwata-xbox-live-and-psn-are-too-far-developed-for-nintendo-to-catch-up/Quote"I think that what we see in terms of online gaming networks on existing dedicated gaming platforms is not particularly well suited to the approach Nintendo has taken," he said.
"Therefore, I can't sit here and say to you that we can very quickly overcome or catch up to other companies, which began to work in the online field from many years ago and have been building these online networks on other platforms, and I don't think that would be a smart strategy, either."
Nintendo ignoring the most and doing their own thing it looks like
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/353614/iwata-xbox-live-and-psn-are-too-far-developed-for-nintendo-to-catch-up/Quote"I think that what we see in terms of online gaming networks on existing dedicated gaming platforms is not particularly well suited to the approach Nintendo has taken," he said.
"Therefore, I can't sit here and say to you that we can very quickly overcome or catch up to other companies, which began to work in the online field from many years ago and have been building these online networks on other platforms, and I don't think that would be a smart strategy, either."
Nintendo ignoring the most and doing their own thing it looks like
It seems crazy just how lazy Nintendo is getting. They're not even bothering to look like they're giving a fuck.
Nintendo president Satoru Iwata has admitted the Wii U GamePad's tablet screen was almost dropped late in the console's planning stages.http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-06-14-nintendo-almost-dropped-tablet-screen-in-wii-u-gamepad
The company was worried the screen's price would drive up the console's overall cost to consumers.
"Sometime during that final discussion we almost gave up on the idea of the additional screen," Iwata told The Telegraph. "This was due to our concern over the expected high cost, it may not have been feasible to create this and sell it at a reasonable price point for the consumers."
The fact Microsoft and Sony have both now produced their own dual-screen concepts, Xbox SmartGlass and Vita Cross-Play, only validated Nintendo's decision, Iwata added.
"It's quicker than before. After our showing of motion control, it took three years for other companies to follow suit. But this time it's just one year after our proposal, even before we brought out the actual product. I think that proves the great potential of what we showed last year."
While the GamePad's touch screen stayed, Nintendo decided to roughly match the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360's graphical power - still a vast improvement from the Wii for third-party publisher's multi-platform releases.
"In the case of the Wii U, we have decided to make it so that it is capable of doing whatever the other two consoles can do, so games are easily portable," Iwata explained.
Beyond the lifespan of the current generation of rivals, Iwata was unfazed by the impending threat of a new Xbox or PlayStation.
"My impression is that the things that happened with Wii vs. 360 or Wii vs. PS3 won't happen again," he added. "If they decide to increase the spec numbers, will the consumers be able to realise the difference from today so much that they can understand it's much superior to today's machine?"
There is some talk among 360 hacking scene about next xbox devkits--12GB RAM inside.
Oh Nintendo'oh.
the VERY best moment in all of this will come next e3, when people really DO SEE THE DIFFERENCE. the ninthing spin will be GEEE-LORIOUS
the VERY best moment in all of this will come next e3, when people really DO SEE THE DIFFERENCE. the ninthing spin will be GEEE-LORIOUS
"graphix aren't that important, whimsy, etc etc"
"I showed my grandmother the gameplay trailer for GTAVI and she couldn't tell the difference between it and Zelda Atlas Shield. She did note that GTAVI's city looks enormous but I made sure to inform her that a bunch of stuff on screen doesn't equal higher performance"
So now Dead Space is a shit franchise that they don't need? Hehe.
"I showed my grandmother the gameplay trailer for GTAVI and she couldn't tell the difference between it and Zelda Atlas Shield. She did note that GTAVI's city looks enormous but I made sure to inform her that a bunch of stuff on screen doesn't equal higher performance"
Wha? Where is that from?
(http://i.imgur.com/aGgja.jpg)
:bow Yoshida :bow2
Nintendo fans still expecting a huge generational leap between the the PS3/360 and the WiiU. You can't make this shit up. :lol
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38881182&postcount=563
Unveiled at E3 2011
Unfinished rush release Holiday 2012
???
Uh oh, Drinky. They're calling you out in that Iwata WiiU Power Levels Over 9000 thread.
Uh oh, Drinky. They're calling you out in that Iwata WiiU Power Levels Over 9000 thread.
Linky for Drinky?
Nintendo fans still expecting a huge generational leap between the the PS3/360 and the WiiU. You can't make this shit up. :lol
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38881182&postcount=563
-- getting hardware out the door that is a respectable improvement over the 360 can't be accomplished for anywhere close to what Nintendo would sell it for
And it's supposed to come out later this year? The whole thing really needed more time in the oven, and I can't believe Nintendo's repeating the same mistakes they made in prior eras.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jJUNQcOmFA
I thought with the slab in your hands and eight accessible buttons you wouldn't be waggling anymore.
with the slab in your hand you will finally be able to play last gen quality games in the comfort of your home rather than outside your home like with the Vita... but no one wants console standard games on a portable if you can leave your house with them, only house bound portable console standard gaming please
Bye Bye, Xbox 360 point five
Maybe shaders, someday later, when Nintendo makes APIs
And that good ol' tablet
Might keep it barely alive
As we wait for last-gen ports to arrive
:rofl :lol :lol :lol :rofl
I will TOTALLY sing that on the next Cruncheons
Man, after that, I'm not even sure if Nintards could even show their faces in this thread anymore.
They see me wagglin'
my tablet
trying to catch me playing whimsy
:rofl :lol :lol :lol :rofl
I will TOTALLY sing that on the next Cruncheons
Link to news about Mistwalker showing interest in Wii U.
The development team and Sakaguchi-san are looking forward to making more, especially for the Wii U because it has another [screen] right in front of you that will add another level of strategic elements into the action-RPG. So we are really looking forward to it, but we haven't really planned anything.
I don't even know why Mistwalker even exists. They act as a body in between an outside developer and an outside publisher. What's the purpose of that?
I don't even know why Mistwalker even exists. They act as a body in between an outside developer and an outside publisher. What's the purpose of that?
Do you know anything about capitalism and business?
Take-Two Interactive Software chairman and CEO Strauss Zelnick, however, was not among the cheerleaders.
While Take-Two will make sports and family titles for the Wii U, its bigger core franchises have been notably absent from the list of partners. And that seems unlikely to change anytime soon.
"We haven't announced anything," says Zelnick on the possibility of moving the company's mature titles onto the Wii U. "I'm skeptical."
"For a company like ours, it's a great opportunity," he says. "[New console launches] separate the winners from the losers -- and we fully expect to be one of the winners."
Nintendo: Third Parties? Fuck 'em™
Fuck, I didn't even think of the Fallout thing
STOP SAYING SHIT LIKE THAT I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO BUY A WEEEEOOOOOOOO
I think the 360 knock off controller is a sign that Nintendo is trying to make at least a marginal effort to bring third parties on board.
So Jimmy Fallon called it a Wii add on tonight.
Branding 101, Nintendo gets an F
mid and lower tier companies aren't going to have the money to compete with larger companies making games for the new hot rod consoles with astronomical budgets, which means that you could still see a lot of inversion-type games showing up on wii u
oh, let's all quit being coy, most of us will own this for one reason or another within the next two years
we can still point fingers and laugh, though
mid and lower tier companies aren't going to have the money to compete with larger companies making games for the new hot rod consoles with astronomical budgets, which means that you could still see a lot of inversion-type games showing up on wii u
They're all developing on iOS or PC. And there's no incentive for them to develop on Wii U, controller or not. There was a chance to do that in before tablets took over.
oh, let's all quit being coy, most of us will own this for one reason or another within the next two years
we can still point fingers and laugh, though
One of the awesome things about having kids is blaming foolhardy purchases on them. There will be a WiiU in my household Xmas morning, and it will in no way be my fault!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v99rhmt6zd4q64p/Fallon-WiiU.m4v
he speaks as if it's a tablet, independent from but compatible with the existing Wii. he thinks it's Smart Glass.
Nintendo will kill it as usual while 3rd parties continue to piss and moan about everything. There is no reason to "help out"3rd parties. If they want to pass up another opportunity for the second generation in a row, their loss.I think when just about every western third party wants no part of Nintendo the problem there isnt likely to be said third parties.
Nintendo will kill it as usual while 3rd parties continue to piss and moan about everything. There is no reason to "help out"3rd parties. If they want to pass up another opportunity for the second generation in a row, their loss.I think when just about every western third party wants no part of Nintendo the problem there isnt likely to be said third parties.
this system is going to bomb.
remember the uproar of interest in Wii prior to release? All the hype?
compare WiiU to Wii.
lol
"It's Nintendo, it does everything"
So Jimmy Fallon called it a Wii add on tonight.
QuoteSo Jimmy Fallon called it a Wii add on tonight.
not so closet dwelling nthing friends on twitter after Fallon's head on a spike over this : WAY TO CONFUSE 100M POTENTIAL BUYERS :(
fuck me - if you can't see why this branding is a problem it is because you've got Iwata's nutsack draped over your eyeballs
It's kind of funny that this doesn't happen with Playstation, but I think it's because there, with the customers, the "Playstation" name trumps Sony's, so it's the default brand name, whereas with Nintendo, their name will always trump the name of the console, so any attempt to extend the console's name out to a wider brand is bound to cause confusion.
How does a controller work on a tablet? Do you prop the screen up on your boner?
QuoteSo Jimmy Fallon called it a Wii add on tonight.
not so closet dwelling nthing friends on twitter after Fallon's head on a spike over this : WAY TO CONFUSE 100M POTENTIAL BUYERS :(
fuck me - if you can't see why this branding is a problem it is because you've got Iwata's nutsack draped over your eyeballs
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38932385&postcount=75
It's kind of funny that this doesn't happen with Playstation, but I think it's because there, with the customers, the "Playstation" name trumps Sony's, so it's the default brand name, whereas with Nintendo, their name will always trump the name of the console, so any attempt to extend the console's name out to a wider brand is bound to cause confusion.
Jimmy had no idea what to even say about it to make it sound interesting. With the wii all you had to say was "move the controller like a golf putter and it moves that way on the screen" and you intuitively know what the product is about and how it applies to games. Nintendo hasn't found a concise statement that justifies the Wii U in the same way. What does "flicking from one screen to another screen" have to do with video games? How does that help with immersion? If you need a whole paragraph to justify why your controller gimmick is worthwhile then you're either selling to a niche market or you have a pretty serious branding issue. Mainstream media isn't going to go out of its way to justify the console to its listeners.
Really? Why would you risk it by basically introducing what looks like an unproven product into the marketplace
I don't think this is gonna bomb.
Just Dance was like freaking huge, mang.
I don't think this is gonna bomb.
Tell me, how is the weather in Imaginationland this time of year.
I keep forgetting that it's not 2005.
I'd love to play Gundam 0079 on the Wii.
But not enough to actually buy a Wii.
I have a Wii with NSMB, SMG, and SMG2. In my opinion, these are the only three Wii games worth owning.
It can't be brought up enough that the WiiU totally fails the hype test set by the Wii in terms of casuals. The Wii controller was quite innovative and interesting, and it's hard to deny the appeal of stuff like WiiSports or WiiPlay for casuals. I can't see WiiU replicating the interest and hype the Wii received in mainstream outlets, from Oprah to news reports.
To make matters worse, Nintendo doesn't have a game to show off the controller's general appeal. Nintendo Land looks like a complete joke, and the name alone is a turn off
I have a Wii with NSMB, SMG, and SMG2. In my opinion, these are the only three Wii games worth owning.sin and punishment 2 should be in this pile. Same for House of the Dead, stuff like that.
It can't be brought up enough that the WiiU totally fails the hype test set by the Wii in terms of casuals. The Wii controller was quite innovative and interesting, and it's hard to deny the appeal of stuff like WiiSports or WiiPlay for casuals. I can't see WiiU replicating the interest and hype the Wii received in mainstream outlets, from Oprah to news reports.
To make matters worse, Nintendo doesn't have a game to show off the controller's general appeal. Nintendo Land looks like a complete joke, and the name alone is a turn off
In order to differentiate the Wii U from the Wii, Nintendo will release a new NSMB game and a new Wii Fit game.
Mistwalker CEO Hironobu Sakaguchi said that they would like th develop new RPG titles for Wii U, but the company is currently busy with its new iOS title "Party Wave", and there is nothing really planned at the moment.
It can't be brought up enough that the WiiU totally fails the hype test set by the Wii in terms of casuals. The Wii controller was quite innovative and interesting, and it's hard to deny the appeal of stuff like WiiSports or WiiPlay for casuals. I can't see WiiU replicating the interest and hype the Wii received in mainstream outlets, from Oprah to news reports.
To make matters worse, Nintendo doesn't have a game to show off the controller's general appeal. Nintendo Land looks like a complete joke, and the name alone is a turn off
In order to differentiate the Wii U from the Wii, Nintendo will release a new NSMB game and a new Wii Fit game.
NSMB doesn't strike me as a killer app though, at least not for the market Nintendo is aiming for. It'll sell well obviously but it's not the buzz inducing game they need. And Wii Fit isn't really a game tbh. The Wii was a hit in part because it was a great party console for many people; they weren't whipping out Wii Fit to play with friends.
Fuck you if Geometry Wars Galaxies ain't on your list. :gun
...this reminds me that since the system is pretty much fucking dead at this point we should do a post-mortem thread and have some LIST WARS/arguing about what was worthwhile on the Gamecube 2.0.
QuoteMistwalker CEO Hironobu Sakaguchi said that they would like th develop new RPG titles for Wii U, but the company is currently busy with its new iOS title "Party Wave", and there is nothing really planned at the moment.
reality is a better parody than any parody i could actualy make
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXAr6mjC40E
this hurts just to watch :fbm
what type of signal the wii u pad is sending
Hehe, I actually ran that through a morse code translator.all i could get is sos and then eeeee from what i fed it through. ah well.
QuoteMistwalker CEO Hironobu Sakaguchi said that they would like th develop new RPG titles for Wii U, but the company is currently busy with its new iOS title "Party Wave", and there is nothing really planned at the moment.
reality is a better parody than any parody i could actualy make
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXAr6mjC40E
this hurts just to watch :fbm
What in the fuck is this shit
Hehe, I actually ran that through a morse code translator.all i could get is sos and then eeeee from what i fed it through. ah well.
Hehe, I actually ran that through a morse code translator.all i could get is sos and then eeeee from what i fed it through. ah well.
I got "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE."
(http://i45.tinypic.com/344qome.jpg)
Maybe Nintendo can pull from some past ad campaigns
This one ran in Playstation and 3DO magazines
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Maybe Nintendo can pull from some past ad campaigns
This one ran in Playstation and 3DO magazines
:rofl that ad
I had no idea they played up the cartridge load times in ads. Did Sony or Sega ever hit back with "midis lol"?
You probably wouldn't have to dig long to find a thread of some Ntard arguing disks were inferior and not the future due to potential scratching issues
:rofl that ad
I had no idea they played up the cartridge load times in ads. Did Sony or Sega ever hit back with "midis lol"?
Dude, that was the major Nintendo talking point back then, right after "64-bits of power ZOMG!!".
I remember the 64-bits of power thing. I remember "Jaguar isn't 64-bit--it's 32+32bit" (I still have no idea what this means).The Jaguar's two main processors weren't actually 64-bit, they were 32-bit. There was like one smaller processor that WAS 64-bit and it had a 64-bit bus so Atari claimed it was a 64-bit system. Nintendo obviously disagreed.
:rofl that ad
I had no idea they played up the cartridge load times in ads. Did Sony or Sega ever hit back with "midis lol"?
Dude, that was the major Nintendo talking point back then, right after "64-bits of power ZOMG!!".
I remember the 64-bits of power thing. I remember "Jaguar isn't 64-bit--it's 32+32bit" (I still have no idea what this means). I remember 4-player games. I remember rumble. I don't remember kids going off on load times.
:rofl that ad
I had no idea they played up the cartridge load times in ads. Did Sony or Sega ever hit back with "midis lol"?
Dude, that was the major Nintendo talking point back then, right after "64-bits of power ZOMG!!".
I remember the 64-bits of power thing. I remember "Jaguar isn't 64-bit--it's 32+32bit" (I still have no idea what this means). I remember 4-player games. I remember rumble. I don't remember kids going off on load times.
Pretty sure load times were the main reason (technical anyway) why Nintendo went with cartridges.
"You can imagine how a game like Call of Duty would work on the Wii U - the GamePad will allow you to declutter the TV and pull gaming items like maps down and not interrupt your interaction and enjoy the cinematic quality of the game on the TV.
But Moffitt admitted the Wii U's controls were "confusing relative to the Wii".
Quote"You can imagine how a game like Call of Duty would work on the Wii U - the GamePad will allow you to declutter the TV and pull gaming items like maps down and not interrupt your interaction and enjoy the cinematic quality of the game on the TV.
No one wants to be constantly looking at a second screen while playing a twitch shooter. By definition you're interrupting your interaction by having to shift focus from one screen to another. And you can't capture that audience with terrible online architecture.
the GamePad will allow you to declutter the TV
You know what ? it just isn't fun to rib Nintendo any more - the fans are actively just self trolling themselves. Booooooooring.Yep,booooring.Nintendo is now like Sony,not fun to troll anymore... :(
No integration with Facebook or Twitter, but Nintendo hopes games with be the theme that attracts users
The company has finally embraced a clearer online strategy with its new console - Miiverse is integrated directly into the Wii U's system menu and games, allowing users to interact through text and video although it will be moderated with up to 30 minutes delay.
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Instead, Nintendo will offer basic functions of social services that Fischer admits are not revolutionary but he believes have so far been missing from the console gaming environment.
"On the Wii U we do have additional reasons for connecting, we talked about things like the video chat system, nothing revolutionary but it's going to be convenient, it's going to be easy.
"And the Miiverse is the one actually that I believe has a very unique feature which is we put ourselves in the situation of making sure the people you can communicate with they are somehow already in a kind of community. The community will be the Wii U owners, who will have this common interest for video games and our expectation about that is it's going to be a way to enhance the idea of sharing information on the video game."
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"One thing that is very important to us is that somehow you could pick up information from people you trust, maybe on games that you wouldn't consider naturally. Because Miiverse will show you what are the topics or the games played at the moment within the community. And then you may have one interesting comment that will trigger your curiosity and then maybe you will get more information on that game and then at the end what is important to make sure people have different game play experiences. So considering a game that you wouldn't consider it's like enlarging your scope in terms of gaming, and that's the key point for us," he concluded.
Rival console networks have at least allowed users to download specific social networking apps, but Fischer said Nintendo's policy is not to offer a service that is already available on multiple devices.
Wii U is minimum as powerful as Xbox 360! Get hype!
It seems to be quite obvious to me.
The minimum bit is the lower end of its range of capabilities. ie to begin with, it is capable of running CryEngine 3 as good as or better than 360, and its upper limits are somewhere above what PS3/360 can achieve.
ie just looking at xbox/360 and ps2/3 and wii/u
-----|...Xbox Range...| ---- |......360 Range....|----
--|...PS2 Range...| -------- |......PS3 Range.....| ----
----| .......Wii Range....| ------------------------| ..... Wii U Range ....|
But it will be really useful when wiiu gets diablo 3 console exclusive!
Nintendo's policy is not to offer a service that is already available on multiple devices.
WEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
So nobody has to go looking for it:QuoteIt seems to be quite obvious to me.
The minimum bit is the lower end of its range of capabilities. ie to begin with, it is capable of running CryEngine 3 as good as or better than 360, and its upper limits are somewhere above what PS3/360 can achieve.
ie just looking at xbox/360 and ps2/3 and wii/u
-----|...Xbox Range...| ---- |......360 Range....|----
--|...PS2 Range...| ---|......PS3 Range.....| ----
----| .......Wii Range....| ------------------------| ..... Wii U Range ....|
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479362
Nintendo Direct 2012.6.22 - Jun. 21, 11PM EDT
As someone who plays call of duty multi, there are several things i can see them doing with the second screen that would facilitate a more elegant experience. As of right now, you get a small minimap on the hud and to access the larger map you have to pause the game. A wii u version could put the larger map on the tablet screen at all times for better situational awareness. Using the heartbeart sensor on a weapon has the nasty side effect of blocking a large portion of your screen to the left of your barrel, it would be nice to have that somewhere I can quickly check it without giving up that screen real estate. Put some killsteak icon buttons on there and allow the ability to mark points where campers/etc are or draw routes and whatnot and I could see it being a nice addition. Then again I hate dual analog so it would be a tough choice for me.
YET
The dude's point is entirely moot as you can't become the preferred platform for Call of Duty if you don't even have a game announced for the WiiU in the first place. There's also that reality where everyone's social circle is already invested enough in other online networks and will be hard pressed to venture elsewhere on their own.
I play tf2 with keyboard and mouse... and I fucking despise it.
I play tf2 with keyboard and mouse... and I fucking despise it.
SEE? I'm guessing not enough whimsy.
I play tf2 with keyboard and mouse... and I fucking despise it.
I play tf2 with keyboard and mouse... and I fucking despise it.
I don't know dude, you're using something invented as a workstation playing games with something invented as a text input systemf. Sounds like a non gaming platform to meeeee. Not to mention nothing can ever just RUN so one has to scour the internet to find some config that will get the kinks worked out.
I'll take my dedicated platforms, thanks.
Yeah, but you've already stated you don't like dual analog soooooo.... NON-GAMER.
...except the waggle wand is horribly inaccurate and you need accuracy in fps games for fucks sakes. I honestly don't know why I'm trying to debate you on this, wii music etc etc.
… What? Believe it or not, Namco Bandai and Namco Bandai Games/Studios is developing the next Smash Bros. games. Well, they’re one of the project’s contributors. Kid Icarus: Uprising developer Project Sora is also involved, lead by Masahiro Sakurai.
From Namco Bandai, Kobayashi will be producing. Higuchi from the Tales games will be directing.
edit: Like, do you realise that Wii fps don't use the accelerometers right? It uses the ir sensor and pointer mechanism.
Quote… What? Believe it or not, Namco Bandai and Namco Bandai Games/Studios is developing the next Smash Bros. games. Well, they’re one of the project’s contributors. Kid Icarus: Uprising developer Project Sora is also involved, lead by Masahiro Sakurai.
From Namco Bandai, Kobayashi will be producing. Higuchi from the Tales games will be directing.
WTF.
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/06/21/smash-brothers-for-wii-u-and-3ds-will-be-developed-by-namco-bandai/
huh
Can't believe the Ninthings at gaf are excited over Namco taking over development duties for SSB.
I get that Sakurai seems like he REALLY wants to do anything BUT SSB nowadays, but...why not just hand it to one of the senior designers at Hal who worked on both (maybe all 3?) games? I'm not sure why they would want to make things needlessly difficult.
They're probably thinking the series needs a punch in the arm or something, so if they can't get Sakurai to do it, they're going to get someone that will generate some buzz to do it.
Not that some Nintendo collabs haven't gone well (F-Zero GX unf), but more often than not, these team-ups with Nintendo and another dev usually turn out crappy. Luckily, Smash is already crappy.
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/06/21/smash-brothers-for-wii-u-and-3ds-will-be-developed-by-namco-bandai/
huh
The whole excitement over Bandai Namco helping with Smash reminds me of people losing their shit over the early Gundam TIS PS3 screenshots. It's like people forget who they're dealing with.
you hate dual analog but also hate kbm ???
Fils-Aime: One of the things that, on one hand, I love and, on the other hand, that troubles me tremendously about not only our fanbase but about the gaming community at large is that, whenever you share information, the perspective is, 'Thank you, but I want more.' 'Thank you, but give me more.' I mean, it is insatiable.
"And so for years this community has been asking, 'Where's Pikmin?' 'Where's Pikmin?' 'Where's Pikmin?' We give them Pikmin. And then they say, 'What else?'
"For years, this community have said, 'Damnit Reggie, when you launch, you better launch with a Mario game.' So we launch with a Mario game, and they say, 'So what's more?'
"I have heard people say, 'You know, you've got these fantastic franchises, beyond what you're doing in Smash Bros., isn't there a way to leverage all these franchises?' So we create Nintendo Land and they say, 'Ho-hum, give me more.' So it's an interesting challenge."
if sb turns out crappy I bet it will have less to do with Namco but rather Nintendo rushing the game. They really need it and fast and they know it. Has any other nintendo game been announced before work has began? or talked about this much while they have nothing to show?
Reggie u mad
Wara wara
Fans: "Hey we want all our favorite franchises back!"
Nintendo: "K here's all of them as a minigame collection with Miis"
http://kotaku.com/5920572/the-trouble-with-the-never+satisfied-gamerQuoteFils-Aime: One of the things that, on one hand, I love and, on the other hand, that troubles me tremendously about not only our fanbase but about the gaming community at large is that, whenever you share information, the perspective is, 'Thank you, but I want more.' 'Thank you, but give me more.' I mean, it is insatiable.
"And so for years this community has been asking, 'Where's Pikmin?' 'Where's Pikmin?' 'Where's Pikmin?' We give them Pikmin. And then they say, 'What else?'
"For years, this community have said, 'Damnit Reggie, when you launch, you better launch with a Mario game.' So we launch with a Mario game, and they say, 'So what's more?'
"I have heard people say, 'You know, you've got these fantastic franchises, beyond what you're doing in Smash Bros., isn't there a way to leverage all these franchises?' So we create Nintendo Land and they say, 'Ho-hum, give me more.' So it's an interesting challenge."
Reggie's a fucking toolshed, remember the E3 he tried to pawn off Animal Crossing as the "game for core gamers" they had coming out?
I mean for fucks sakes, Nintendo is so goddamn dumb they are genuinely surprised that people aren't kissing their ass for Nintendoland and instead want, you know, actual GAMES in those franchises for the love of fuck. "Here, enjoy this virtual tour of our franchises! Isn't it cool?"
I'd imagine NoA feels Reggie is a valuable PR asset, and more effective than anyone else. He's certainly the face of the company in the US, and is still revered by Ntards. I remember my days as an Ntard, and being rather proud that he made me proud to own a Gamecube.
What leverage do you think he should assert? I'm sure he knows Nintendo needs a "mature" title and it's probably in development. But the problems I highlighted a ones he most likely has no sway over. Nintendo's ultimate focus is the Japanese market, which doesn't seem to give a shit about online gaming. Same with Facebook/Twitter options, or bought exclusives, etc. Those are mainly western focuses, and I see no indication that Reggie holds sway to steer the company in that direction. I refuse to believe any competent US or EU gaming CEO looks at social media or online gaming and puts up the middle finger. That's a handful of dumbasses in Japan willing to go down on a sinking ship.
Given all the money made in Japan off social media and online gaming, I doubt most of the competent ones here put up the middle finger either. Japan is one of Facebook's fastest growing markets, it's definitely one of Twitter's top markets, and in addition, it has its own social networks. Online gaming is huge here, but the market is on mobiles for that. One of Japan's pro baseball teams is owned by a mobile/social/online gaming company. Does EA own the Dodgers yet?
Also, I'm not sure why you seem to think a Japanese president can be incompetent enough to not see the money in it yet somehow an American or European one can't be. Oh wait, I know why. Because you're a countryist. Shame on you, PD. :wag
It's not about being a countryist; I don't see Sony blowing off social media, and as you said it's not like social media is some wasteland in Japan. And we know just about every business in the US has jumped into social media to varying levels of success.
So where is the disconnect coming from. There's no fucking way it's coming from NoA bro: it's coming from the guys who thought HD gaming was a fad, think online gaming is still a fad, and think third party exclusives aren't important.
I just don't see why you don't think Reggie can't possibly be in agreement with those things. NoA has consistently shown less support for third parties and has done less to court third parties than the Japan side. NoJ in no way seems to think HD gaming/online gaming are fads, they just want to do it the way they want to do it to try maximize revenue within the constraint of minimizing risk. This has been the gameplan at Nintendo the entire time Reggie has been there, too. Why would you think he's not on-board with that plan, given how much money that exact plan has raked in during his short time at Nintendo?
Ehn, it's pretty clear I'm not able to communicate my side of things properly to you. I concede, PD. Were it not for the evil stupid moran Satoru Iwata, Reggie would have put the stamp on an Xbox 900-level console integrated with everything ever made on the internet, with riches of third party games so large, even dcharlie couldn't buy them all. If only it weren't for that incompetent Japanese bastard!
Reggie's a fucking toolshed, remember the E3 he tried to pawn off Animal Crossing as the "game for core gamers" they had coming out?
I mean for fucks sakes, Nintendo is so goddamn dumb they are genuinely surprised that people aren't kissing their ass for Nintendoland and instead want, you know, actual GAMES in those franchises for the love of fuck. "Here, enjoy this virtual tour of our franchises! Isn't it cool?"
The real question is where the next Order Up! game lands.
If Nintendo can't lock that down then quite frankly the company is headed towards bankruptcy.
To be fair, I think basement dwelling core Nintendo gamers are a huge part of Animal Crossing's demographic.
And to answer pilon's question: the roms were in the N64 and GCN versions. The DS and Wii versions don't have them.
No Animal Crossing ever will again. That shit can sell way better than free for Nintendo.
My fondest memory of the series is listening to a dog play midi music at a cafe on Saturday nights. He'd play a few songs a week. That's indescribably sad when you think about it.
I guess the dream of a $400 WiiU is dead. :(
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=480026
Considering how Nintendo supposedly sets launch prices based off of general enthusiasm, I assumed the Wii U was going to launch for $100.
I guess the dream of a $400 WiiU is dead. :(
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=480026
$400.00 is reasonably priced to Nintendo :Pspoiler (click to show/hide)and Nintards :smug[close]
I guess the dream of a $400 WiiU is dead. :(
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=480026
$400.00 is reasonably priced to Nintendo :Pspoiler (click to show/hide)and Nintards :smug[close]
No it isn't.
But your fellow Ntards have said the tech costs $300.00 so add the $100.00 whimsy tax.
It's bigger than Wii's I think, the input is 230V, 50 Hz, 0.9 A and the output is 15V, 5.0A.