FoC's Ron Paul Shitheap: Patel Melts the Internets starting on pg. 24

[Human Snorenado]

I'm failing to understand the gist of your argument.  Let me see if this is what you're saying:  "A massively underfunded and understaffed agency run by a woman who is resisting attempts to strengthen it is unable to regulate rogue companies from providing toxic toys for toddlers. The obvious solution is to completely eliminate the agency and let those companies police themselves!"

Sounds like the agency is ineffective and wasting money even existing.

Lets throw more money at the problem.

Well obviously you have been exposed to lead toys as a child.

[Himu]

Obama did not support the war when it began nor did Kuchinichchchchhc

Kuchinichi Wa

[Human Snorenado]

Obama did not support the war when it began nor did Kuchinichchchchhc

Kuchinichi Wa

I would totally fuck his wife.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Well obviously you have been exposed to lead toys as a child.

That was a very well thought out and entirely relevant point. 

[FlameOfCallandor]

Who?

You're just a font of knowledge, aren't you?

I knew he was I was just making the joke that this guy isn't very not worthy. In the debates he sounds kind of whiney and doesnt set him self apart from the rest of the pack.

[Himu]

Obama did not support the war when it began nor did Kuchinichchchchhc

Kuchinichi Wa

I would totally fuck his wife.

"Your tubesteak will have to be as big as mine to deliver that, mister."

[Human Snorenado]

Who?

You're just a font of knowledge, aren't you?

I knew he was I was just making the joke that this guy isn't very not worthy. In the debates he sounds kind of whiney and doesnt set him self apart from the rest of the pack.

Yet he's still polling 8% to Paul's 4%.

[APF]

Ron Paul doesn't sound whiney?

[FlameOfCallandor]

Ron Paul doesn't sound whiney?

No. Does he sound whiney to you?

[Phoenix Dark]

Taking over the medical practice of a retiring doctor in Lake Jackson, Texas, he was busy as the only ob/gyn doctor in Brazoria County, saying, "I delivered forty to fifty babies a month and did a lot of surgery." Paul did not accept Medicare and Medicaid payments as a physician; instead, he worked for free or arranged discounted or custom-payment plans for needy patients; he says of these patients, "I just took care of them."

An honest politician who practices what he preaches. Even if you disagree with his ides you can at least admit that.

So instead of accepting Medicaid, he forced poor patients to pay him directly? What a champ!

A lof of dental and hospital practices don't support Medicaid

[APF]

Extremely whiney.

[brawndolicious]

how the fuck would you prevent unsafe children's toys without a government agency?

A lof of dental and hospital practices don't support Medicaid

does the average hospital accept it when it's for a life-saving emergency?

[Howard Alan Treesong]

how the fuck would you prevent unsafe children's toys without a government agency?

The market would work it out! After a few kids get extremely ill from the lead paint, the word will spread fast! Democracy in action! [/foc]

[Human Snorenado]

how the fuck would you prevent unsafe children's toys without a government agency?

Why, the MARKET would prevent it!  Once you figure out that the toy has lead paint and is making your child ill, you can simply refuse to do business with such scurrilous companies!  They'll no doubt go under quickly from the lack of money that your loss of business means!  THE MARKET SOLVES EVERYTHING!!!

[brawndolicious]

let him answer it, I'm very curious.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

you can't make a democratic omelette without cracking a few eggy children

[Human Snorenado]

let him answer it, I'm very curious.

He's just gonna ignore you and post another article about Ron Paul.  Notice how he ignored my link to the poll that shows Richardson polling at 8%?  Yeah.  He's not very smart.

[brawndolicious]

maybe he feels like he'll sound too distinguished mentally-challenged talking about people he doesn't know?

my question is pretty simple.

[captainbiotch]

The paranoid crisises of socialists/collectivists never fail to entertain.  

BUBUBU THE KIDS WOULD ALL DIE OF LEAD CHIPS CAUSE OF RON PAUL!

No you big sillies, they won't, just like they don't now.  Lawsuits and criminal culpability are enough to keep 99.95% of companies in line.  Just like how laws work with normal fucking people.  Maybe we should post a government agent with every child in America to watch over them and test everything they put in their mouths?  Its the only way we can possibly ensure their safety!

Its like the Government Bureaucracy Defense Force up in here.  I seriously suggest you guys learn the difference between anarchism and libertarianism.  

[FlameOfCallandor]

how the fuck would you prevent unsafe children's toys without a government agency?

Is it the governments job to prevent unsafe toys? If shit like this happens you put stiff fines on the company and let the parents sue their asses into oblivion.

does the average hospital accept it when it's for a life-saving emergency?

I dont know, but I doubt a hospital or any doctor would turn someone away in a life saving emergency.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Its like the Government Bureaucracy Defense Force up in here. I seriously suggest you guys learn the difference between anarchism and libertarianism. 

Seriously.

[Human Snorenado]

Yeah, because large corporations have shown a willingness to listen to what the courts tell them to do.

"Hey Exxon, this Valdez shit was totally your fault.  You're going to pay X amount of money to clean shit up and as damages."

...fast forward to present day...

"Hey Exxon, why the fuck haven't you paid for that shit?"

JUSTICE IN MOTION!

[FlameOfCallandor]

This is a problem with our justice system. I'm not entirely sure what to do, but probably something along the lines of a few ass whoopings against shit like the exon valdez or the toys stuff would be good.

Throwing money at a government agency wont solve the problem.

[Human Snorenado]

This is a problem with our justice system. I'm not entirely sure what to do, but probably something along the lines of a few ass whoopings against shit like the exon valdez or the toys stuff would be good.

Throwing money at a government agency wont solve the problem.

So... uh... WHO THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT TO ENFORCE THE RULINGS OF THE COURT?  Could it be... a govt. agency?  That you don't want to FUND?  Meanwhile, Exxon can just throw money at their lawyers to keep it in appeals.

You really are a genius, sir.  I pray that you don't breed.

[captainbiotch]

The government cares more about Exxon than it does Valdez or the people affected in the area.  Thats just the fuckin truth.  And its cause we give politicians more power than they should have.  Exxon can line the pockets of their buddies, just like any other company, and shit goes their way.  If the game of politics stopped being about alliances and fundraising and funny things slipped into bills we'd see something happen.  The answer to that is changing the form of government, not giving our warped politicians more power and money and federal agents.

[brawndolicious]

besides, I don't think companies would prefer to regulate their own products completely.  right now, the Consumer Product Safety Commission only has one lab and around 400 people.  most toys are tested only at the toy company factories.  when a product is dangerously defective/just made in an unsafe way, the government fines are very small WHEN THE TOY COMPANY LAWYERS FAIL TO FILE ENOUGH APPEALS AND THE GOVERNMENT PROVES IT WAS THEIR FAULT and the lawsuits from the victims/victim's families are probably settled out of court before the press knows anything.

[captainbiotch]

So by this logic every toy needs to be tested before it goes to market?  Every consumer product evar?  Every meal served?  Every parent checked for emotional stability and proper Government approved parenting technique?  All possibly very fucking dangerous. Where does the paranoia caused by Thomas the Tank engine stop with you people? 

There are some bad people in the world.  Thats what we have a justice system for.  The question is whether you want to preemptively control everything in the universe cause bad shit might happen, or if you want to be free, want others to be free, and when people fuck up, allow them to get what they deserve.

Really you guys dont give a fuck, you are just using THE KIDSSSSSS OMG to search for a hole in libertarian philosophy.

[brawndolicious]

what the fuck?

I'm saying having more people/labs is probably more effective.

[captainbiotch]

Killing all arabs would be a more effective way to end terrorism.  Place your head on the stump, nintenho.

Socialists inability to argue morality is so telling.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

actually, he'll point out that the agency was ineffective in this instance.

however, instead of correctly realizing this means that the industry and its practices need to be improved, he'll think it should just be disbanded entirely, because that tax money could be spent on hospital bills or something. FREE MARKET!

[FlameOfCallandor]

The government cares more about Exxon than it does Valdez or the people affected in the area.  Thats just the fuckin truth.  And its cause we give politicians more power than they should have.  Exxon can line the pockets of their buddies, just like any other company, and shit goes their way.  If the game of politics stopped being about alliances and fundraising and funny things slipped into bills we'd see something happen.  The answer to that is changing the form of government, not giving our warped politicians more power and money and federal agents.

There ya go folks. Remind them who they work for.

[Human Snorenado]

The government cares more about Exxon than it does Valdez or the people affected in the area.  Thats just the fuckin truth.  And its cause we give politicians more power than they should have.  Exxon can line the pockets of their buddies, just like any other company, and shit goes their way.  If the game of politics stopped being about alliances and fundraising and funny things slipped into bills we'd see something happen.  The answer to that is changing the form of government, not giving our warped politicians more power and money and federal agents.

There ya go folks. Remind them who they work for.

...by voting for a guy who doesn't think they should be regulated at all?

GENIUS ONCE AGAIN

[Gay Boy]

thankfully ron paul decided to run for the gop nomination not a third party so we can be done with his whiney voice in 2 months rather than 1 year.

[FlameOfCallandor]

thankfully ron paul decided to run for the gop nomination not a third party so we can be done with his whiney voice in 2 months rather than 1 year.

Even though he has denied it, I doubt he would not run as a third party candidate. He has alot of passionate support.

[Human Snorenado]

thankfully ron paul decided to run for the gop nomination not a third party so we can be done with his whiney voice in 2 months rather than 1 year.

Even though he has denied it, I doubt he would not run as a third party candidate. He has alot of passionate support.

Passionately stupid.

[Gay Boy]

thankfully ron paul decided to run for the gop nomination not a third party so we can be done with his whiney voice in 2 months rather than 1 year.

Even though he has denied it, I doubt he would not run as a third party candidate. He has alot of passionate support.

He ran as third party before and swore afterwards he never would again. That would make your candidate a liar wouldn't it?

[Fragamemnon]

thankfully ron paul decided to run for the gop nomination not a third party so we can be done with his whiney voice in 2 months rather than 1 year.

I agree, not having to read the crazed, dogmatic rantings of internet libertarians for another year or so is a huge plus due to the way that Paul is running. There's also another great bonus-when thier white knight fails to beat bottom-tier Duncan Hunter in Iowa, the rest of us will be able to rub it in thier face sooner rather than later. Or, in FOC's case, banish them from our little watering hole permanently.

[FlameOfCallandor]

ough he has denied it, I doubt he would not run as a third party candidate. He has alot of passionate support.

He ran as third party before and swore afterwards he never would again. That would make your candidate a liar wouldn't it?
[/quote]

First he wasn't running, now he is. He's a flip-flopper!!!!!!

[FlameOfCallandor]

Did I post this or not? Marvel at my awesome MS Paint skills!

[Synbios459]

Did I post this or not? Marvel at my awesome MS Paint skills!

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[Howard Alan Treesong]

that photoshop is as professional and believable as Ron Paul's candidacy

[FlameOfCallandor]

that photoshop is as professional and believable as Ron Paul's candidacy

It's not photoshop. REading is essential patel. I made it in MS Paint. Took me a whopping 2 minutes.   

[Howard Alan Treesong]

boo fucking hoo, go cry into your kleenex

[FlameOfCallandor]

boo fucking hoo, go cry into your kleenex

:kylielaff :kylielaff

[FlameOfCallandor]

Turn on CNN, Wolf Blitzer is talking about how much money Ron Paul is raising today.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

it's almost like he's a real candidate

[FlameOfCallandor]

it's almost like he's a real candidate

He's been a top tier republican for a few weeks.

[FlameOfCallandor]

I just saw a commercial on CNN for draftgore.com 

Is that shit for real?

[Human Snorenado]

it's almost like he's a real candidate

He's been a top tier republican for a few weeks.

 

[Gay Boy]

it's almost like he's a real candidate

He's been a top tier republican for a few weeks.

Except Romney, Rudy, Thompson, McCain, and Huckabee all have more support. Only 2 candidates have less support than him.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

it's almost like he's a real candidate

He's been a top tier republican for a few weeks.

Except Romney, Rudy, Thompson, McCain, and Huckabee all have more support. Only 2 candidates have less support than him.

should that be "fewer" support? ...No, "fewer" is for quantities you can measure.

[TVC15]

Hahaha, FoC has turned into JayDubya!  Someone give him a copy of Atlas Shrugged and blow the simp's mind.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Hahaha, FoC has turned into JayDubya!  Someone give him a copy of Atlas Shrugged and blow the simp's mind.

It's on my christmas list.

[etiolate]

This isn't specific to Ron Paul, but why, when we are stuck with two parties that really go nowhere, that when another outside candidate comes along people seek to mock them instead of encouraging competition to shake things up?

[Gay Boy]

Seeing how FoC's account hinges on the outcome of Iowa in 2 months lets check in how this "top tier" candidate is doing!

ARG 10/26-29/07
Romney - 27%
Huckabee - 19%
Giuliani - 16%
McCain - 14%
Thompson - 8%
Tancredo - 2%
Paul - 1%
Hunter - 0%



Also a week ago the University of Iowa did a poll. Ron Paul's result was "-" he did not even reach enough to round up to 1%.

This isn't specific to Ron Paul, but why, when we are stuck with two parties that really go nowhere, that when another outside candidate comes along people seek to mock them instead of encouraging competition to shake things up?

he isn't outside the two parties, he is running for the GOP nomination. What you speak of is more along the lines of Ralph Nader.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

well, you know, think of all the people who didn't even place! he's a top 6 candidate, baby. top tier.

[Gay Boy]

I forgot Tom Tancredo. He got 2%.

Paul is only above Hunter.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Just wait. Cheebs is gonna be perma banned from evilbore.

[etiolate]

This isn't specific to Ron Paul, but why, when we are stuck with two parties that really go nowhere, that when another outside candidate comes along people seek to mock them instead of encouraging competition to shake things up?

he isn't outside the two parties, he is running for the GOP nomination. What you speak of is more along the lines of Ralph Nader.

He's going for the republican card? It would seem to make more sense for him to go under another party.

[Gay Boy]

This isn't specific to Ron Paul, but why, when we are stuck with two parties that really go nowhere, that when another outside candidate comes along people seek to mock them instead of encouraging competition to shake things up?

he isn't outside the two parties, he is running for the GOP nomination. What you speak of is more along the lines of Ralph Nader.

He's going for the republican card? It would seem to make more sense for him to go under another party.

He tried that already in a past election already.