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Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

The North American box art for Guns of the Patriots.
Developer(s)    Kojima Productions
Publisher(s)    Konami
Designer(s)    Hideo Kojima (producer, director, writer)
Shuyo Murata (director, writer)
Kenichiro Imaizumi (producer)
Yoji Shinkawa (director, character designer)
Series    Metal Gear
Platform(s)    PlayStation 3
Release date    June 12, 2008[1]
Genre(s)    Stealth Action
Mode(s)    Single player
Rating(s)    ESRB: M (Mature)[2]
BBFC: 15[3]
CERO: D
OFLC (AU): MA 15+[4]
OFLC (NZ): R16
Media    Blu-Ray-DL Disc
Input methods    DualShock 3 / Sixaxis

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (commonly abbreviated to MGS4) is an upcoming stealth action video game in the popular Metal Gear series. Directed by Hideo Kojima, Shuyo Murata and Yoji Shinkawa, Guns of the Patriots is currently being developed by Kojima Productions exclusively[5] for the PlayStation 3 video game console. The game is being designed around the motto, "No Place to Hide!" and will be the last Metal Gear game developed by Hideo Kojima, and the last game in the series starring Solid Snake.[6] The game will be released worldwide on June 12, 2008, 10 years after the release of Metal Gear Solid and 20 years after the first Metal Gear.[7][8].
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    * 1 Gameplay
    * 2 Plot
    * 3 Development
    * 4 Characters and voice cast
          o 4.1 The New FOXHOUND
          o 4.2 The Beauty and the Beast Corps
          o 4.3 Cast
    * 5 Soundtrack
    * 6 Marketing
    * 7 Versions and releases
          o 7.1 Limited Edition
          o 7.2 Release bundles
    * 8 Metal Gear Online
    * 9 Reception
    * 10 References
    * 11 External links

Gameplay
Old Snake aiming at mercenaries.
Old Snake aiming at mercenaries.

In Metal Gear Solid 4, the player Old Snake must navigate the game world in order to progress, using stealth and cunning in addition to traditional combat. It will use the series' traditional third person view with full camera manipulation, but also allows the freedom to play in first-person mode, as well as an over the shoulder view which can be switched from right shoulder to left for easy corner maneuvering. The Close Quarters Combat system will be completely revamped. The player will also be able to interrogate guards for information and supplies.

Several elements from previous titles return in modified forms. Players will also use a new form of camouflage called "Octocamo", which replaces the camouflage system featured in Metal Gear Solid 3. Dark blue when disabled, the Octocamo suit allows the wearer to blend in with any surface within a few seconds. A new monocular device called "Solid Eye" replaces the various binoculars and image intensifiers from previous titles, and a steel drum complements the series' traditional cardboard box disguise. It is able to deflect bullets, and can be rolled to knock enemy soldiers over, but can lead to Snake being sick should the player roll around too much.

According to Ryan Payton, the game will be filled with cut-scenes that explain what happened in previous MGS games and how that relates to the events of MGS4. Players will be able to choose whether to view these scenes by pressing the circle button on their controller when prompted. Although informative enough to excite the hardcore fans of the series, the cut scenes will be straight forward enough for casual players. Players will have the choice of watching the cut scenes from predetermined camera angles or exploring them with the Metal Gear Mk. II. [9]

Snake will also be partnered with a robotic drone, the Metal Gear Mk. II, which allows him to communicate with other characters, in addition to the CODEC radio system from previous games. It is also capable of engaging enemies using an electric shock, as well as providing reconnaissance.[10] This drone is reminiscent of Gillian Seed's robotic sidekick of the same name from another Hideo Kojima game Snatcher.

Due to the lack of a rumble feature (an important part in previous titles) from the PlayStation 3 during much of the development, the game had been designed with a new feature: a white "Threat Ring," that visibly vibrates when sound is made nearby.[11] As a series known for extensive use of rumble, when Sony announced the reintroduction of a new DualShock 3, MGS4 was announced as one of the first major games to make use of the force feedback capabilities.[12]

Snake's health will play some factor during gameplay. If injured on the battlefield, cuts and burns will remain on his skin. However, the developers wish to avoid putting the stress of Snake's health to the players, so he wears a muscle suit, allowing players to move in a similar fashion to previous games.[13]

Snake will have two new meters that replace the stamina bar from Snake Eater. The first meter, "Stress", is based on current fighting and climate conditions. This can cause Snake to go into a "combat high",[14] that increases his accuracy and reduces damage sustained. However this effect will eventually wear off and could cause Snake to momentarily collapse. Smoking a cigarette calms Snake down.[14] The second meter, "Psyche", slowly drops over time reducing Snake's accuracy. Scanning the pages of a glamor magazine will increase the meter.[14]

There is also a "Baseline Map" which is a radar map with a dynamic circle based on Snake's "presence" to the environment.[11] Accessible through the main menu, the Virtual Range is a test facility that allows the player to access the game's library of weapons as well as practice Snake's CQC moves.[14]

In the May 2008 issue of EDGE magazine, Kojima expressed dissatisfaction with the final game, citing the game's graphics and his inability to realize his early vision.[14] Kojima later clarified his remarks, stating that he was "very satisfied" with the final game and that his initial comments were sensationalized and mistranslated.[15]

Plot
PMC mercenaries deployed by Outer Haven.
PMC mercenaries deployed by Outer Haven.
Metal Gear series fictional chronology
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
Metal Gear
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake
Metal Gear Solid (The Twin Snakes)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

Set in 2014, five years after the "Big Shell Incident" (the events of the Plant chapter from Metal Gear Solid 2), Metal Gear Solid 4 portrays a world where the restriction of military intervention on foreign soil has been eased, fueling the need for private military companies (PMCs) to fight proxy wars for business purposes. Nanotechnology has become prominent, both to enhance the capabilities and enforce the loyalty of mercenaries. The nanos that are in the PMCs are called "Sons of the Patriots" or "SOP". The five largest of these PMCs (Which are named Praying Mantis, Otselotovaya Khvatka, Werewolf, Pieuvre Armement and Raven Sword) are owned by a single mother company named Outer Haven, which is operated by Liquid Ocelot. Amassing an army whose manpower rivals that of the United States, Liquid prepares to launch an armed insurrection by taking control of SOP. Liquid will have the power to control all of the PMCs. With the world once again in crisis, a rapidly aging and disillusioned Solid Snake is deployed into the Middle East by Roy Campbell to terminate Liquid. Guns of the Patriots will take place in five locations, Middle East, South America and Eastern Europe. It will also including Shadow Moses from Metal Gear Solid.[16]

Development

Hideo Kojima announced that he would be retiring as director of the Metal Gear series after Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater, and would leave his position open to another person for Metal Gear Solid 4, as he had announced he would after Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty.[citation needed] As a joke, the new director was announced as "Alan Smithee", but in R, a 400-page book bundled with Metal Gear Solid 3's Japanese "Premium Package", the director was revealed to be Shuyo Murata, co-writer of MGS3 and director of Zone of the Enders: The 2nd Runner. He has also contributed humorous easter eggs to Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty and Metal Gear: Ghost Babel. However, it was announced that Kojima will be co-directing the game with Murata after substantial negative fan reaction, including death threats.[17]

The title has been described as "essentially finished" since January 2008, and is currently entering extensive beta testing.[18] As of April, a team of American and European journalists are the only individuals outside Konami to have played the game through its entirety, and have provided feedback to the development team.[19]

At Destination PlayStation on February 26, 2008, Sony announced that MGS4 would be released worldwide on June 12, 2008, along with the special MGS4 PlayStation 3 bundle.[20]

Guns of the Patriots is the first PS3 game that uses a full 50GB dual layer Blu-ray Disc through extensive efforts in data compression.[21]

In the May 2008 issue of EDGE magazine, Kojima has expressed disappointment in the final result of the game's graphics and his inability to realize his early vision. Kojima says, "But when we actually started developing the game, we realized there were a lot of restrictions and so it turned out how you see it today ... we wanted to create something revolutionary, but in reality we couldn't really do that because of the CPU. We're using the Cell engine to its limit, actually. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not criticising the PS3 machine, it's just that we weren't really aware of what the full-spec PS3 offered."[14] However, Kojima has more recently stated that he is "very satisfied" with the final game and that he never said anything critical of the PS3 in the first place, citing mistranslation by Western media for the purpose of sensationalism for his previous 'remarks'.[22]

Characters and voice cast

Many of the Japanese voice cast from Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty will be returning to reprise their roles in Guns of the Patriots, with the notable exception of Kōji Totani, the voice of Revolver Ocelot, who died in February 2006.[23] Totani will be replaced by Liquid Snake's Japanese voice actor Banjō Ginga. Houko Kuwashima and Kikuko Inoue will reprise the roles of Mei Ling and Rosemary respectively for the game,[24][25][26] Inoue will also voice a new character, Sunny, the daughter of Olga Gurlukovich. Japanese film director Shinya Tsukamoto will provide the Japanese voice for Vamp, replacing original actor Ryotaro Okiayu. An elderly EVA (who appears under the identity of Big Mama), from Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater, will also appear, and her voice will be provided by singer Mari Natsuki.[27][28]

English voice acting work is being recorded in tandem under voice-director Kris Zimmerman.[29] David Hayter returns as Solid Snake, with Quinton Flynn (Raiden), Paul Eiding (Roy Campbell), Christopher Randolph (Otacon), Debi Mae West (Meryl Silverburgh), Jennifer Hale (Naomi Hunter), and Phil LaMarr (Vamp) all reprising their roles from previous titles. The role of EVA will be voiced by actress Lee Meriwether.[30] Cam Clarke, who performed the voice of Liquid Snake in the first two Metal Gear Solid games, will not be a part of the Metal Gear Solid 4 cast. The role of Liquid Ocelot was given to Patric Zimmerman, the voice of Revolver Ocelot. Kris Zimmerman, denying allegations of nepotism, has clarified that Kojima always intended for the character to use Ocelot's voice.[31]The character of Rosemary, played by Lara Cody in MGS2, will be played by Jennifer Hale in MGS4.[32] Ryan Payton has stated that due to lack of space that there will be no option to switch audio to different languages.[33]

Other new characters include Drebin, a self-styled "arms launderer" (notably voiced in Japanese by Keiji Fujiwara, the Japanese voice of Sigint in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater) whose Stryker will act as the in-game store.[14]; "Little Gray", a small, shaven, shorts-wearing monkey who appears to follow Drebin; a new FOXHOUND team under the command of Meryl Silverburgh; and the Beauty and the Beast Unit.


The New FOXHOUND
Left to right: Ed, Meryl, Jonathan and Johnny "Akiba" Sasaki.
Left to right: Ed, Meryl, Jonathan and Johnny "Akiba" Sasaki.

The four members of FOXHOUND, also known as "Rat Patrol Team"[14], are sent to investigate PMC activity. The team includes Meryl Silverburgh; Ed, Meryl's second-in-command; Jonathan, a hulking soldier; and Johnny Sasaki, also known as "Akiba", the team's electronics expert. Meryl, Ed, and Jonathan use the SOP (Sons Of the Patriots)[34] system to share each other's senses via the nanomachine network inside their bodies. Meryl states that they are investigating PMC activity for the US Army CID. Ed and Jonathan are named after Ed Brown and Jonathan Ingram, the main characters of Hideo Kojima's Policenauts, from which Meryl also originally gained her name.

The Beauty and the Beast Corps
The Beauty and the Beast Corps.
The Beauty and the Beast Corps.

Four new bosses are also debuting in Guns of the Patriots: Crying Wolf, Raging Raven, Screaming Mantis, and Laughing Octopus, all members of The Beauty and the Beast Corps. Their animal names openly reference characters from Metal Gear Solid's FOXHOUND unit, and the emotions relating to the Cobra Unit from Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater. A close inspection of Screaming Mantis reveals two marionettes of previous MGS bosses: Psycho Mantis and The Sorrow, both of whom were psychics. All four of them are women who suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder. The only way they can cope with the damage done to their minds is to become war machines. Their inner appearance is referred to as "Beauty", while their outer appearance is referred to as "Beast". Four real-life models were chosen for their in-game appearances as their "Beauty" side: Lyndall Jarvis, Scarlett Chorvat, Mieko Rye, and Yumi Kikuchi. The English dubbing for the characters is done by having the female voice actors perform the lines while Fred Tatasciore overdubs on top of the female voices, creating a split-voice effect for the characters.[35]

Cast
Character    Japanese    English    Motion Capture Actor
Old Snake (Solid Snake) [32]    Akio Ōtsuka    David Hayter    Ryoji Okamoto[32]
Raiden    Kenyū Horiuchi    Quinton Flynn    Takeshi Yoshioka
Eiji Morisaki[32]
Hal "Otacon" Emmerich    Hideyuki Tanaka    Christopher Randolph    Shumei Kawashima[32]
Naomi Hunter    Hiromi Tsuru    Jennifer Hale[32]    Haruna Aimoto[32]
Colonel Roy Campbell    Takeshi Aono    Paul Eiding    Takashi Kubo[32]
Liquid Ocelot    Banjō Ginga    Patric Zimmerman[31]    Taro Kanazawa[32]
Meryl Silverburgh    Kyoko Terase    Debi Mae West[35]    Eriko Hirata[32]
Vamp    Shinya Tsukamoto    Phil LaMarr[31]    Naoki Saito[32]
Mei Ling    Houko Kuwashima    Kim Mai Guest[32]    Yumi Kikuchi[32]
Rosemary    Kikuko Inoue    Jennifer Hale [32]    Haruna Aimoto[32]
Big Mama (EVA)    Mari Natsuki    Lee Meriwether[32]    Mao Yuuki[32]
Screaming Mantis    Mao Yuuki    Andrea Zafra (Normal voice)[32]
Fred Tatasciore (Beast voice)[35]    Mao Yuuki[32]
Crying Wolf    Eriko Hirata    Debra Wilson Skelton (Normal voice)[32]
Fred Tatasciore (Beast voice)[35]    Eriko Hirata[32]
Laughing Octopus    Haruna Aimoto    Paula Tiso (Normal voice)[32]
Fred Tatasciore (Beast voice)[35]    Haruna Aimoto[32]
Raging Raven    Yumi Kikuchi    Nika Futterman (Normal voice)[32]
Fred Tatasciore (Beast voice)[35]    Yumi Kikuchi[32]
Drebin    Keiji Fujiwara    Khary Payton[36]    Takashi Kubo[32]
Sunny    Kikuko Inoue    Christina Puccelli[32]    Yasuyo Nabeshima[32]
Johnny (Akiba)    Jun Fukuyama    Beng Spies[32]    Kazuki Muramatsu
Jonathan    Hideyuki Tanaka    James Sie[32]    Motosada Mori[32]
Ed    Shōzō Iizuka    Dave Fennoy[32]    Shigeyuki Horita[32]
Soldiers    TBA    Richard Steven Horvitz[citation needed]
Roger Craig Smith [37]    TBA
Haven soldiers (FROGS)    TBA    Sarah Sido[citation needed]    TBA

Soundtrack

    Main article: Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (soundtrack)

The score to Metal Gear Solid 4 is being led by Harry Gregson-Williams, his third Metal Gear Solid soundtrack,[38] and Nobuko Toda, who provided music for Metal Gear Acid and Metal Gear Acid 2.[39] Directed by Norihiko Hibino, GEM Impact employees Yoshitaka Suzuki and Takahiro Izutani also made compositions late in the game's production.[40] Other contributors are Konami employees Shuichi Kobori, Kazuma Jinnouchi, Akihiro Honda, and Sota Fujimori.[41]

There are two vocal themes for the game. The opening theme, "Love Theme", is sung by Jackie Presti and composed by Nobuko Toda. The ending theme, "Here's To You", is sung by Lisbeth Scott. Before the release of the game, "MGS4 - Theme of Love - Smash Bros. Brawl Version" was provided for Super Smash Bros. Brawl in the Shadow Moses Island level.[42]

The official soundtrack was released on May 28, 2008 by Konami Digital Entertainment under the catalog number GFCA-98/9.[43] It is comprised of two discs of music and 47 tracks. A soundtrack album will also be packaged with Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Limited Edition.[44]

Marketing

At a press conference on May 13, 2008, Hideo Kojima announced a marketing campaign and agreements with several companies to promote the game. An Apple iPod is an in-game item that Snake can use to change the background music, and collect hidden songs scattered throughout the game. ReGain Energy Drinks are used in the game as a stamina booster, and Sony Ericsson mobile phones are used.[45]

Konami and Ubisoft put an unlockable costume in the game for Snake, Altaïr from the Ubisoft stealth game Assassin's Creed. Initially revealed on April Fool's Day 2008, Kojima later announced that it would actually be in the game, unlockable by doing "something special".[46]

Versions and releases

Limited Edition
The Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of The Patriots limited edition boxart.
The Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of The Patriots limited edition boxart.

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Limited Edition is to be released simultaneously with the game's standard edition, as an enhanced counterpart. The release will contain Guns of the Patriots, a box with artwork by Yoji Shinkawa, a Blu-ray containing two "making of" documentaries, and the game soundtrack. The Limited Editon will be available exclusively at GameStop in the United States and EB Games in Canada,[47] while a similar bundle with an additional 6-inch 'Olive Drab' Old Snake Figurine has been made available at Play.com in the United Kingdom. [48]

Release bundles
The North American boxart for the basic bundle.
The North American boxart for the basic bundle.

In North America, a bundle containing an 80GB PlayStation 3, a DualShock 3 wireless controller, a downloadable game coupon from PSN and a copy of Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots will be released for US$499 to coincide with the release of the standalone edition.[49] Japan will see the release of the Guns of the Patriots Welcome Box that contains the game itself, a DualShock 3 controller, and a 40GB PS3 in either black, white or silver.[50]

Sony has also announced a limited editon pre-order bundle containing Guns of the Patriots, a Blu-ray video disc and a matte grey (officially titled Gunmetal Grey) 40GB PlayStation 3. First announced in Japan on March 18, 2008 at a cost of ¥51,800[51] the bundle sold out within six days from March 20 to March 25.[52] An identical bundle was available in North America for pre-order on May 19, 2008 in "very limited" supply for US$600 at Konami's official website.[53]

Metal Gear Online

    Main article: Metal Gear Online

Metal Gear Online is the online component of Metal Gear Solid 4. The game will feature 16-player online stealth battles, encouraging players to engage heavily in teamwork. MGO will be distributed with MGS4 in the form of a starter pack, which will be expanded through downloadable content via the PlayStation Network, potentially for up to 10 years.[54]

The game was in beta testing in Japan from August 20 to September 3, 2007.[55] Around 3,000 people joined the test sessions. US and Canadian customers who pre-order Metal Gear Solid 4 in April will be also included in a further beta test which was due to begin on April 21, 2008, however due to many technical dificulties including a server overload, it was postponed to April 25, 2008 and continued until May 11, 2008, promptly shutting down at midnight PST until its return on June 12 for the world-wide release of MGS4.[7] The beta package obtained from pre-ordering the game also includes a documentary DVD titled "Metal Gear Saga Vol. 2" with an "invite code" inside. A beta was also scheduled to be opened in Europe.[56] On April 11, 2008, Konami announced an open Metal Gear Online beta for Europe and that it would be available for download from April 26 and would be entirely open to everyone who downloaded it until May 11.[57]

Reception

So far, Metal Gear Solid 4 has received only positive reviews. It has been praised for its innovative gameplay design and provocative storyline - The first review being a 10 out of 10 from PlayStation Official Magazine (UK), commenting Metal Gear Solid 4 "shifts gears constantly, innovating again and again".[58] The game has been awarded 5/5 from the Official US PlayStation 3 Magazine and 10/10 from the PSM Italy magazine ".[59][60]. MGS4 has also received a 9.9/10 from UK IGN.

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External links

    * Metal Gear Solid 20th Anniversary party
    * Metal Gear Solid 4 Global Site
    * Wikia has a wiki on this subject: Metal Gear Wiki

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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #121 on: May 30, 2008, 04:07:11 AM »
My OP sucks so I'm gonna put that in. Its not 40 posts long but its good enough
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #122 on: May 30, 2008, 04:10:50 AM »
My OP sucks so I'm gonna put that in. Its not 40 posts long but its good enough
How about you just put the wikipedia link...

BlueTsunami

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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #123 on: May 30, 2008, 04:11:34 AM »
My OP sucks so I'm gonna put that in. Its not 40 posts long but its good enough
How about you just put the wikipedia link...

Because people are LAZEH

Do you need a banner?

Why not? This could be a communal effort!
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #125 on: May 30, 2008, 04:19:07 AM »
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If only MGS4 did end there. An unbelievably lengthy and self-indulgent epilogue - you can't call it a cut-scene, it's an entire film in its own right, and a deeply boring one too - is how Solid Snake's career comes to a close. Too bad, but no hard feelings; you can ignore it if you wish. The drawn-out sentimentality is fitting, in a way. Snake may have started out as a gruff, two-dimensional cliché, but he bows out very gracefully in Metal Gear Solid 4, assuming the mantle of the world-weary samurai, or the enigmatic nameless cowboy from a spaghetti western, as if it were always his. David Hayter's voice performance isn't much more than an attempt to create the gravelliest, throatiest croak ever recorded by man, but as such, it's heroic.

You're sorry to see Snake go. But should you be? Guns of the Patriots is a frustrating, fractured game that turns Metal Gear Solid's world upside down several times over, but never changes it. It just burrows deeper into what fans love and detractors hate than ever before, and it will make few converts. It's a crying shame, given how many genuinely classic gaming moments there are here, given the countless exquisite creative touches, but Metal Gear Solid 4 is its own worst enemy. You could not ask for a funnier, cleverer, more ambitious or inspired or over-the-top conclusion to the Metal Gear Solid series, but it's definitely time to move on.

We love you, Snake. Don't come back.




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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #126 on: May 30, 2008, 04:20:47 AM »
should've gotten Leonard Cohen to voice Snake this time
hell, should've commissioned him to write and perform the theme song
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #127 on: May 30, 2008, 04:21:26 AM »
MGS fanboys will cover the earth in their semen, it seems.
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #128 on: May 30, 2008, 04:21:38 AM »
Eurogamer can suck my hispanic bollitas

MGS fanboys will cover the earth in their semen, it seems.

Splintscreen Cutscene and Gamplay Cajole! ITS LIKE 24 IN NON-REALLIFE :omg :hyper

This game will make Junpei sex Himuro
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #129 on: May 30, 2008, 04:28:03 AM »
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(Take note, however, that there are several minutes of install time to be endured, not just at the start, but before each act - albeit graced with a fantastic animated graphic of Snake smoking next to some health warnings.)

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Halfway through this section, a novel gameplay idea, a rousing on-rails shoot-out, and some thunderous cut-scene entertainment succeed in sustaining interest until the next episode. It's at this point that Kojima pulls the rug from under your feet. The MGS4 you were expecting, it turns out, is no more than half of the game you get.


We're not going to explain how, because everything that follows deserves not to be spoiled - not the plot, but the string of ideas that break Metal Gear Solid down and rebuild it, in several brilliant and surprising ways, before the game is done. The first of these is such a precise and enthralling distillation and of stealth gaming that it's a shame more people won't see it, but it's worth saving for the way it takes you unawares. Each time, atmospherics, graphics, tone and gameplay revisions mesh perfectly down to the tiniest detail, as Kojima Productions bombards you with references and mood-swings that leave your head in a spin. 1940s 'noir' cinema, the Iraq war, beat-'em-ups, Halo... take your pick.




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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #130 on: May 30, 2008, 04:28:47 AM »
hafta say that Eurogamer piece is one of the best-written game reviews I've ever read.
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BlueTsunami

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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #131 on: May 30, 2008, 04:29:08 AM »
Ok, wtf at Multiple install times :rofl

I guess this game rally is 50GB :omg
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #132 on: May 30, 2008, 04:31:42 AM »
made a banner, use it or dont



it lacks the lulz

heres a textless version http://xs127.xs.to/xs127/08225/mgs684.png
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #133 on: May 30, 2008, 04:33:20 AM »
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hafta say that Eurogamer piece is one of the best-written game reviews I've ever read.

the comments from Eurogamer readers however are  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #134 on: May 30, 2008, 04:33:44 AM »
I will post it and if Groo does anything, I'll post that too
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #135 on: May 30, 2008, 04:36:35 AM »
i misspelled cinematix :/
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #136 on: May 30, 2008, 04:43:53 AM »
new tag get.

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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #137 on: May 30, 2008, 04:44:32 AM »
Okay, my turn to bitch about GAF:

The crazy banner filled official threads with a bunch if useless information is completely unnecessary. Please don't start that shit over here.

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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #138 on: May 30, 2008, 04:55:14 AM »
Seems like the multiple installs is the preliminary install being split up between the acts. So instead of one install of 20 Minutes, you get multiple ones that take 5 minutes or something. I personally would rather have the whole thing isntall at once.
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #139 on: May 30, 2008, 04:57:04 AM »
Seems like the multiple installs is the preliminary install being split up between the acts. So instead of one install of 20 Minutes, you get multiple ones that take 5 minutes or something. I personally would rather have the whole thing isntall at once.
360 version will just have you switch discs.


BlueTsunami

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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #140 on: May 30, 2008, 04:59:29 AM »
Its funny how switching disks is probably quicker than installing a whole other section of the game :lol

But the 360 pwnt in this regard, the game really must be that huge but it has to be the cutscenes that are doing this but the cutscenes are using in game assets right? MGS cutscenes aren't prerendered so its not like these are some super bitrate videos or something.
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #141 on: May 30, 2008, 05:13:19 AM »
Blue Tsunama, at least have the decency to credit me for the work put into the OP.
Eurogamer 8/10

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=143797
Something about Resistance and guns...
« Last Edit: May 30, 2008, 05:16:22 AM by Tieno »
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« Reply #142 on: May 30, 2008, 05:15:45 AM »
Resistance was shite.

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« Reply #143 on: May 30, 2008, 05:25:15 AM »
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #144 on: May 30, 2008, 06:43:27 AM »
Resistance was shite.

best post ever
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #145 on: May 30, 2008, 09:27:30 AM »
I hear dthis gam sux

im gonna fatr on u
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #146 on: May 30, 2008, 10:07:49 AM »
FFVII  ??? ::)
FFVIII  :-X
FFIX  :'(
FFX  :lol
FFXI  :yuck
FFXII  :-X


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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #147 on: May 30, 2008, 10:38:35 AM »
:rofl @ this piece of shit. HALF THE GAME IS VIDEO?
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #148 on: May 30, 2008, 11:27:40 AM »
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  :rofl this piece of shit. HALF THE GAME IS VIDEO?

to be fair, about 2/3s of the old games were video, so this is a huge improvement
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duckman2000

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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #149 on: May 30, 2008, 11:39:03 AM »
The Eurogamer review points to everything I had feared, but expected, would be true about this game; remarkable fanservice, and that's it.

It's a shame though that Eurogamer can not be trusted. And don't fucking say that it can, because it can't.

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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #150 on: May 30, 2008, 11:44:22 AM »
The Eurogamer review points to everything I had feared, but expected, would be true about this game; remarkable fanservice, and that's it.

It's a shame though that Eurogamer can not be trusted. And don't fucking say that it can, because it can't.


This one is starting to sound like GTA IV in terms of publisher control of reviews

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/05/30/possible-mgs4-review-limits/
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #151 on: May 30, 2008, 11:46:57 AM »
Oh my word.

Alert the review crew!

They've closed the case of GTA4, but a new game is afoot!

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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #152 on: May 30, 2008, 12:29:36 PM »
Some kind of Konami rules kept EGM from printing their reviews this month as planned.

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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #153 on: May 30, 2008, 12:38:05 PM »
so shane b. didn't give it a 10/10??  ???
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #154 on: May 30, 2008, 12:42:51 PM »
so shane b. didn't give it a 10/10??  ???
Shane wasn't on the review because he went to Konami to playtest the game and give advice. Plus he's an MGS apologist (defending bad controls and shit)
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #155 on: May 30, 2008, 01:11:42 PM »
Some kind of Konami rules kept EGM from printing their reviews this month as planned.

Nailed it.

duckman2000

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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #156 on: May 30, 2008, 01:40:30 PM »
I don't get why they'd have to be hush hush about cutscene length. Isn't that an MGS trademark? Or are they afraid that it's going to turn off newcomers to the series? Feels like that's a weird concern, given that it's #4 in one of the most ass convoluted game series that has ever existed.

Anyway, trust in the site aside, the Eurogamer reviews reads like a great buyer's guide. Praise for the things that existing fans are bound to adore, and a word of caution to those who may have held out hope that it'd be an accessible game.

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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #157 on: May 30, 2008, 01:47:37 PM »
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It's a shame though that Eurogamer can not be trusted. And don't fucking say that it can, because it can't.

it's the trust rollercoaster ! I see IGN is suddenly credible again after it's 9.9 review!  ::)

No, Eurogamer has been on the can't be trusted shitlist for a while. Including factually incorrect stuff in a review tends to have that effect. And it's a damned shame as the writing has always been a cut above. I like this review though, because it actually serves as a buyer's guide. That thing you do where you complain about others taking a too wide brush fanboy approach to things? Yeah, you're the one with the wide brush right now.

edit: Hold on a second, IGN gave the game a 9.9? Really? That sounds ridiculous, although I guess not surprising coming from that site.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2008, 01:50:59 PM by duckman2000 »

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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #158 on: May 30, 2008, 01:53:42 PM »
IGN UK gave it a 9.9

IGN gave MGS3:S a 9.8 also.
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #159 on: May 30, 2008, 02:15:44 PM »
you have to install the game after each chapter?! >:( :'( :'(

i wanna hate mgs4 so much right now but i'm just too much of a whore :-[ :'(
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #160 on: May 30, 2008, 02:16:46 PM »
Oh wow, that's an, uh, interesting review. 10, 10, 10, another 10, and then a 9.5 for good measure. The whole scoring system seems to be heading towards devaluation.

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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #161 on: May 30, 2008, 02:19:01 PM »
Maybe they're grading it as a SD game? 

Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #162 on: May 30, 2008, 02:24:41 PM »
I saw everyone's responses to the Eurogamer review before I saw the actual score. They gave it an 8, what the hell is wrong with an 8? The way some people were talking made me think it got a bad score or something.
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« Reply #163 on: May 30, 2008, 02:27:17 PM »
I was expecting Eurogamer to man up and give it like a 6 or something.
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #164 on: May 30, 2008, 02:29:38 PM »
That's Edge's job

Oh yeah, that's Edge, not Eurogamer.

Reviews don't influence my purchases (I buy Gundam games, nuff said). I have an idea of what to expect, so I'll still give it a go.
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #165 on: May 30, 2008, 02:42:31 PM »
Well written reviews influence me to an  extent, but scores are just stupid.

Something like that. The Eurogamer review here is very useful for me, as it actually offers valuable information for people other than already die-hard MGS fans. There are some "issues" with previous MGS games, and this particular review actually makes it clear whether or not those issues are still there, and to what degree. A truly well written review shouldn't even really need a score attached to it; the relative value of the game should be obvious by the information in the review.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2008, 02:46:59 PM by duckman2000 »

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« Reply #166 on: May 30, 2008, 02:46:27 PM »
The review is blocked at work, I'll read it when I get home. Sounds like it's thoughtful, even if it's pissing off stupid fanboys.
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #167 on: May 30, 2008, 03:31:07 PM »
Seems like it's the PERFECT MGS game for MGS fans. If you wanted something... uh... non-wacky jappy then you're out of luck.

Look, I don't think it is necessary or even smart to troll this game now.

What do I expect from FF13? To be the best FF game ever. To have everything I loved in FF games. I guess the same goes for MGS4. People don't want something different, they want MOTS!

Trolling, no. I just honestly wanted to know if it'd be accessible for someone who hasn't been too fond of the quirks in previous MGS games. It's a shame, because there's so much about this game that is brutally appealing. It was expected that it'd be fan service, wasn't sure to what extent though.

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« Reply #168 on: May 30, 2008, 04:34:33 PM »
Seems like it's the PERFECT MGS game for MGS fans. If you wanted something... uh... non-wacky jappy then you're out of luck.

Look, I don't think it is necessary or even smart to troll this game now.

What do I expect from FF13? To be the best FF game ever. To have everything I loved in FF games. I guess the same goes for MGS4. People don't want something different, they want MOTS!

Trolling, no. I just honestly wanted to know if it'd be accessible for someone who hasn't been too fond of the quirks in previous MGS games. It's a shame, because there's so much about this game that is brutally appealing. It was expected that it'd be fan service, wasn't sure to what extent though.


I'm not sure, but no matter how many reviews you read, you won't know for certain until you play it.
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #169 on: May 30, 2008, 04:43:07 PM »
That's true, but a review might be enough to make me decide if it's even worth it for me to find out for myself. Especially when I know what signs to look for. In this case, I'll wait to read a few more good reviews before I decide, but the Eurogamer review is a "good" start.

On a separate note, why in the hell do people assume that it's alright to just openly spoil other story-driven pieces (movies or games)? One more fucking movie spoiler in an official thread for something entirely different and I might just go ahead and spoil whatever the official thread is for.  :bowser
« Last Edit: May 30, 2008, 04:44:46 PM by duckman2000 »

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« Reply #170 on: May 30, 2008, 09:01:31 PM »
That's Edge's job

There's no chance this gets less than an 8 in Edge. It's been getting the same treatment that GTA IV was getting. There was a massive article in the last issue, the same as GTA IV had one before it's review
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #171 on: May 30, 2008, 09:27:38 PM »
If MGS4 is on par with the rest of the series, 8 is as close to a correct objective review as you're going to get.  As good as the gameplay is, Kojima has never learned to tell a story without disruptive exposition.
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #172 on: May 30, 2008, 09:32:37 PM »
omfg this is going to be amazing.  where the hell is kev for our month long wankfest?

He quit. Or at least, extended hiatus.

PM him and convince him otherwise!

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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #173 on: May 30, 2008, 11:12:20 PM »
If MGS4 is on par with the rest of the series, 8 is as close to a correct objective review as you're going to get.  As good as the gameplay is, Kojima has never learned to tell a story without disruptive exposition.

The Eurogamer reviewer sounds as though hes tired of the series though. What other publication is trusted for reviews? Edge?
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« Reply #174 on: May 30, 2008, 11:14:36 PM »
Edge are on the "iffy" list now after GTA IV got a 10. Reading the text made me want to shoot someone in rage
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #175 on: May 31, 2008, 04:58:23 AM »
I'm so fucking gay for MGS it's ridiculous. MGS4 is going to be sooo fucking awesome. God dammit Kojima, give it to meeee

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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #176 on: May 31, 2008, 05:10:42 AM »
If GTA4 is an 8/10 game that got 10/10 from EG,  does that mean MGS4 is a 6/10 game?  ::)

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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #177 on: May 31, 2008, 05:16:37 AM »
If GTA4 is an 8/10 game that got 10/10 from EG,  does that mean MGS4 is a 6/10 game?  ::)
That's Edge's job


There's no chance this gets less than an 8 in Edge. It's been getting the same treatment that GTA IV was getting. There was a massive article in the last issue, the same as GTA IV had one before it's review
Edge seems to have given it an 8/10

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11394585&postcount=1
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- Opening act is the best part
- Not a game for MGS outsiders
- two cut-scenes near the 90 minute mark
- The Beauty and the Beast Unit are in the shadow of the MGS3 Cobra Unit.
- Camera flow effortless between 1st and 3rd person view
- Control system has "at last" the ideal balance of intuitvness and range.
- Game can be played for months rather than days.
- MGS4 is not the game it could of been, nor the game it should have been if you believed the early trailers (??)
- But is very faithful to its fans and delivers without equal in so many ways.



Two cutscenes nearing 90 minutes? Or two cutscenes combined nearing 90minutes? Whatever the case...What?
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Re: MGS4 THREAD OF PEE PEE, POO POO and Anti-MGS Troll TEARS
« Reply #178 on: May 31, 2008, 05:37:52 AM »