Official Ninja Gaiden II Thread.

[MrAngryFace]

I havent seen the slowdown yet, what level does that start on? The camera i've sadly become used to, and the new level design clearly knows the camera is a problem. Still, Camera + Action games

[demi]

I havent seen the slowdown yet, what level does that start on? The camera i've sadly become used to, and the new level design clearly knows the camera is a problem. Still, Camera + Action games

I got it in Chapter 2 the worst, in the room with the giant dragon, and the occasional stutter. But nothing slideshow.

I got the in-game loading during Chapter 2 as well, in the area with the Rod of Valor

[Narag]

The worst part of the slowdown will be the stairs on chapter 10. I'm also disappointed the final boss was like the rest of the fiends, style over substance.

Just finished it and man, the game had some pretty shitty bosses outside of Genshin.

[demi]

I've noticed a lot (ok make that the only 4 i've fought so far) of the bosses are these big hulking beasts, with these DEVASTATING attacks, but all you have to do is just slice their ankles and they die.

[Tieno]

Here's a stupid question:

I never played a single Ninja Gaiden game (not even the MSX/ SNES ones).
I *love* God of War games.
I *loathe* Devil May Cry games.

Would I like Ninja Gaiden 1 or 2?

Hard to tell, since Ninja Gaiden is very hard and takes skill. It doesn't have the stuff you or I like God of War for, except that Ryu is extremely bad ass.

[MCD]

I havent seen the slowdown yet, what level does that start on? The camera i've sadly become used to, and the new level design clearly knows the camera is a problem. Still, Camera + Action games

in the first chapter, near the waterfall.

tearing also when you or an enemy casts ninpo.

[Cormacaroni]

Did anyone else miss getting the claws in Chapter 2?

i got them in the burning room, then died, then decided to take the alternative route (across the river), figuring all roads would lead to Rome eventually...it didn't

So I had to buy the fuckin' things in Chapter 3.  :'(

[Narag]

Here's a stupid question:

I never played a single Ninja Gaiden game (not even the MSX/ SNES ones).
I *love* God of War games.
I *loathe* Devil May Cry games.

Would I like Ninja Gaiden 1 or 2?

GoW is really an adventure game disguised as an action game. Unless you really like hard games, I doubt you'd like NG.

[MCD]

"no one knows where a ninja goes"

"you shall not pass"

 

[MCD]

my god, the ninja dogs are absolutely brutal, i love them.

and i think i know why folks are saying the camera is worse than before, it is due to the increased amount of enemies on screen and the narrow places.

[patrickula]

My 360 crashed when I tried to browse the leaderboards after a level (I had to beat the boss again!) so maybe the game itself is glitched.

I think the camera issues aren't just exacerbated by the narrows spaces and increased enemy numbers, but also by the obliteration techniques that move the camera in front of the action.

[Don Flamenco]

The only in-battle load I encountered was in ch.2 on the stairs with the archers.  The camera has had some freakouts, but nothing at key moments-- it usually happens when I go around hitting walls looking for crystal skulls.  It'll get stuck behind a pillar during an obliteration or UT every once it a while.  Once again, nothing I hadn't already dealt with in 1-- not a problem then, not a problem now.

lol game journalists


Can't wait to get online with my new 360 and check out the leaderboards...you'd think wireless adapters would be cheap by now. It's kinda weird not having a 360 online (all my other ones were hooked up all the time.)  In any case, I haven't been playing for karma, so it'll be cool to see how I'm measuring up to casual players.

[muckhole]

Here's a stupid question:

I never played a single Ninja Gaiden game (not even the MSX/ SNES ones).
I *love* God of War games.
I *loathe* Devil May Cry games.

Would I like Ninja Gaiden 1 or 2?

I love Ninja Gaiden games, loved GoW, wasn't too hot on the DMC series, so I'll say give it a shot.

I *was* playing through DMC 4 and not minding it, until I lost all my saves in a horrible mishap. And playing the old NES NG games really wouldn't make a difference, outside of knowing the main characters name.

[MrAngryFace]

I like NG2 way more than 1 so far. MOST of the battle environments have provided me with a lot of 'n00b room' to do moves n stuff. I still have trouble in smaller spaces that require constant use of the wall in the middle of combos.

[MCD]

yes, it's more fun and lively than the first game.

question: any tips on doing izuna drop with the lunar staff? i can't do it  :'(

[MCD]

wait a fucking minute...

people were having trouble with the 2nd boss? i made him my bitch with the falcon claw, draft was right, this weapon is amazing.

though what's up with the camera when fighting him? why can't i rotate up/down? pretty awkward.

[Beezy]

Did anyone else miss getting the claws in Chapter 2?

i got them in the burning room, then died, then decided to take the alternative route (across the river), figuring all roads would lead to Rome eventually...it didn't

So I had to buy the fuckin' things in Chapter 3.  :'(

Wtf, you can find them in chapter 2? I wasted money!

[Enl]

Holy slowdown! The stairs in Chapter 10 were so full of kickass that my machine could barely keep up with it. It's a great place for UT chaining. The boss on that stage was a joke though.

Also is anyone else disappointed with the Tests of Valor? It's kinda upsetting that these are what replaced the mission modes. Only the third one gave me a hard time but the others have been cakewalks so far.

[MCD]

yes you can, right before the bridge (where you get the rod of valor from respawning ninjas.)

it's really an amazing weapon once you upgrade it, in the first game i only used the dragon sword and dabilahro for some bosses, here the talons are my main shit till further notice.

[Beezy]

UT = Ultimate Technique?

[MCD]

UT = Ultimate Technique?

yes.

and OT = Obliteration Technique.

[Beezy]

thanks

[MCD]

chapter 3 boss...

you have got to be shitting me.

[MCD]

i had to use healing items to defeat the bastard, i still got master ninja rank though.

he fell down and i obliterated away, felt soooo goood.

[Junpei the Tracer!]

McDragon,you're gonna love later on in the game. Bosses have instant kills,it's HILARIOUS.

[Narag]

McDragon,you're gonna love later on in the game. Bosses have instant kills,it's HILARIOUS.

No, no they don't. They're high damage moves that will fuck you if you don't have much hp.

[Don Flamenco]

The armadillo boss and ch.3 boss have been the hardest so far.  I'd like to know if there's a set formula for knocking them over into a stunned state--in both fights I feel like I just happened to get lucky one time and get them stunned towards the end of the fight.

but yeah, block when the armadillo is dead--in case some of you didn't get the memo.

[Narag]

I think that's just normal to allow you to use an OT to finish them.

[MCD]

I'm used to that (Doku's charge or Alma's grab attacks.)

i don't mind using the bow for bosses like the first game (tanks and the chopper anyone?) but this guy is really cheap, sending fishes, electric balls and a huge fucking blue face that keeps following you? NOT COOL.

[Junpei the Tracer!]

McDragon,you're gonna love later on in the game. Bosses have instant kills,it's HILARIOUS.

No, no they don't. They're high damage moves that will fuck you if you don't have much hp.

Really really high damaging attacks. You don't know how many times I died on Chapter 5's boss when I swam under him.

[Narag]

I did that fight 40+ times I think so I might have an idea! 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Carving up those werewolves with the scyth at the end of chapter 6 was so fucking awesome.  Blood and limbs everywhere.

[Narag]

Carving up those werewolves with the scyth at the end of chapter 6 was so fucking awesome.  Blood and limbs everywhere.

I restarted on Warrior to get the scythe expert achievement. I hadn't touched it until that point but that weapon is fucking powerful.

[demi]

Where is the Scythe? I think I missed it, haha

I just got the Gold Key

[Narag]

Where is the Scythe? I think I missed it, haha

I just got the Gold Key

You're not quite there yet. Its not something you can miss fyi.

[demi]

Damn, Volf tore me up in like 5 seconds. Why does everyone say he's so easy? This game's so uneven sometimes.

edit: Ok now I tore him up in 5 seconds... definitely uneven

And nice try making me use the Scythe, assholes

[Narag]

Damn, Volf tore me up in like 5 seconds. Why does everyone say he's so easy? This game's so uneven sometimes.

Triple flying swallow his ass.
First hit he blocks, next two hit and you land where you start. You can go back into this cycle before he recovers and effectively stunlock him.

[demi]

Machine gun exploding robots 

edit:

Machine gun using ninjas 

[Narag]

Watch out for the ninja using machine guns.

[Jansen]

i beat the shit out of volf with the lunar staff.

i was so pissed that sonia interrupted my killing spree.  :'(

since i knew you got the scythe from defeating volf and i knew how badass it was from playing the demo i saved enough essence to level 3 that bitch immediately. god it owns.

but jesus those huge robots with boosters on chapter 7 are a real bitch

[Narag]

i beat the shit out of volf with the lunar staff.

i was so pissed that sonia interrupted my killing spree.  :'(

since i knew you got the scythe from defeating volf and i knew how badass it was from playing the demo i saved enough essence to level 3 that bitch immediately. god it owns.

but jesus those huge robots with boosters on chapter 7 are a real bitch

Word is the tonfas wreck them.

[demi]

I tore up Genshin and his buddies, just slammed the Ninpo, and the bigger arena compared to Chapter 2 was so good and better than that awful fight

* on acolyte

I've only died once, because I was too slow to use items and forgot to equip my talisman : (

[Junpei the Tracer!]

  at the massive slowdown on Chapter 10.

[AdmiralViscen]

So is there a trick to fighting mechs and rocket dudes in Chapter 8 or am I supposed to be losing tons of health? I use my fastest attacks, dodge and block constantly and there seems to be no way to get through without eating shit.

[Draft]

Kill the rocket dudes first. Clean up the mechs afterwards.

Someone on GAF coined DASH AND SLASH as the strategy of choice in this game, and I can't think of anything better. DASH AND SLASH. If you're not moving you're meat.

[AdmiralViscen]

Yea, that's exactly what I'm doing. I don't even know why I'm losing health.

[Draft]

Probably getting tagged by the giant guys' machine guns. It does chip damage.

Just dash dodge your way around the area cleaning up rocket soldiers, and then kill the big guys. If you're feeling saucy use UTs from the essence the dead rocket guys drop.

[AdmiralViscen]

Thanks for the help but it's nothing I haven't tried.

This is like Lost Planet all over again, I have 0 tolerance for this sort of shit.

[Draft]

The sweetest fruit grows on the tallest trees.

[AdmiralViscen]

Trees with tearing and horrible camera angles that prevent you from enjoying the fights, and respawning that occurs offscreen and is blocked from your sight by the giant mechs that rotate around you in a flash and force you to fuck with the camera again.

NG1 did not do this to me.


I decided that having to use a Life of a Thousand Gods to get past it was acceptable so now I've saved past it. If chapter 9 is worse than this then Civ Rev just got $40 cheaper.

[Junpei the Tracer!]

Genshin was so easy. Dragon Sword 

[MCD]

I've noticed bosses takes a lot of damage compared to the first game, i hope playing on mentor or MN would fix that.

and that big golem was pretty aggressive, unfortunately for him he was slow as fuck that he couldn't touch me while charging UT ahuahuahua. 

[Draft]

Trees with tearing and horrible camera angles that prevent you from enjoying the fights, and respawning that occurs offscreen and is blocked from your sight by the giant mechs that rotate around you in a flash and force you to fuck with the camera again.

Every rose has its thorns.

[Rman]

Give it a few weeks and the hype will die down, gta4 style.

GTA was doomed from the start with its design, tho

[Draft]

What I mean is people will start seeing its flaws.

Since you have not read any Ninja Gaiden 2 thread on any forum on the internet, I will be happy to summarize them for you:

Plenty of people have had very little trouble seeing flaws.

[Rman]

What I mean is people will start seeing its flaws.

Kinda like dating.

[Don Flamenco]

What I mean is people will start seeing its flaws.

please show me the threads not overrun by whiners.  I hope its more like the first NG-- people bitched like hell at first, then played the game more, got good at it, and stopped caring about the flaws and "cheapness"


AdmiralViscern-- the other option on the mech dudes is ninpo.  A Piercing Void is guaranteed to take off a limb (then go in for the OT.)  But I think Inferno at Level 2 or 3 can take off limbs/kill a few of them at once. 
I think that strategy is what they intended, especially for the part with the bazooka guys on either side of the arena. Immediately after that fight, there's a ninpo essence chest.

[MCD]

I'm still at chapter 5 but if there is a critical flaw, it's probably the "variety" in bosses.

i appreciate Itagaki and co. wanting me to use the bow exclusively on a certain boss but i wish all bosses are like genshin or alexei, just normal battles, heck i wouldn't be pissed about it if there was a mission mode like NGB, where i can just fight them all day long without the other annoying bosses.

another flaw is the framedrops here and there, look itagaki, it's cool that all the bodies stay on the floor but next time, save some room for the memory and stop showing off, k?

[AdmiralViscen]

What I mean is people will start seeing its flaws.

please show me the threads not overrun by whiners.  I hope its more like the first NG-- people bitched like hell at first, then played the game more, got good at it, and stopped caring about the flaws and "cheapness"


AdmiralViscern-- the other option on the mech dudes is ninpo.  A Piercing Void is guaranteed to take off a limb (then go in for the OT.)  But I think Inferno at Level 2 or 3 can take off limbs/kill a few of them at once. 
I think that strategy is what they intended, especially for the part with the bazooka guys on either side of the arena. Immediately after that fight, there's a ninpo essence chest.

I just rounded the corner instead so the rocket losers couldn't get me, and like I said I had to settle for using Life of a Thousand Gods.

I haven't used any healing items more potent than the regular herbs, and only in boss fights, so I think I'm just going to play loose with the healing from now on to get myself through the game with less frustration. I have all the weapons maxed that I want so I can afford to replace them if necessary. I have 4 weapons fully upgraded and the rest all lvl2 and I still have $60k.

Fortunately the rest of the level was a joke compared to that one 5 minute portion. Unbalanced game.

[Don Flamenco]

What I mean is people will start seeing its flaws.

please show me the threads not overrun by whiners.  I hope its more like the first NG-- people bitched like hell at first, then played the game more, got good at it, and stopped caring about the flaws and "cheapness"


AdmiralViscern-- the other option on the mech dudes is ninpo.  A Piercing Void is guaranteed to take off a limb (then go in for the OT.)  But I think Inferno at Level 2 or 3 can take off limbs/kill a few of them at once. 
I think that strategy is what they intended, especially for the part with the bazooka guys on either side of the arena. Immediately after that fight, there's a ninpo essence chest.

 Unbalanced game.

so you wanted it to be a pain in the ass the whole level?  wow.  

I liked the fight, but I'm glad they changed it up with land mines and Godot ninjas.