Official Ninja Gaiden II Thread.

[AdmiralViscen]

I'd like consistent challenge like the first NG game.

The beginning of chapter 9 is atrocious too.

edit: and I said that before I got to the TUBE OF BUGGSSS

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

What they need to do is make Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1.5  - Take everything that was in Black/Sigma but throw in the insane combat of NG2. Perfect game right there.

[AdmiralViscen]

TUBE OF BUGGGSSSS



They are stretching the fuck out of level 9 man

[AdmiralViscen]

WAIT

IF YOU DIE ON THE WORM BOSS YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE SAVE POINT AND DO THAT WHOLE FUCKING MUNDANE SHIT AGAIN

WHAT

WHAT



And now these giant red fish. Who the fuck designed level 9? It's fucking shit.

[Himu]

haven't played the past few days, haven't been in the mood. that said, the clock tower section of chapter 8 is one of the best level designs in a few year

[Junpei the Tracer!]

How the hell did you die on that worm boss? 

[AdmiralViscen]

If he hits you once you lose 3/4ths of your health as he drags you through the tunnel. I accidentally used up my Talisman so I let him kill me so I could do it over.

Then you use the Phoenix magic and he dies in 2 seconds, like several of the unbalanced bosses of this game.

It's a good thing I kept the Talisman because instead of getting a replacement at the next Trial of Valor, I got over $25,000.

[Enl]

haven't played the past few days, haven't been in the mood. that said, the clock tower section of chapter 8 is one of the best level designs in a few year

Wait until you see the last few levels. There's some twistedly epic looking art direction there.

[Don Flamenco]

raining blood ftw. 


glad you can break the 99,999 essence barrier.  finally got every weapon upgraded (except level 4...not sure when that'll be unlocked but I just started 10.) so now I can keep maxing every item.  yay!   didn't expect to do that on my first play through.  took forever to get to that point in 1.

[demi]

So how do you beat this worm?

[Narag]

Acolyte is embarassingly easy. You barely get hurt.

[Cormacaroni]

What I mean is people will start seeing its flaws.

please show me the threads not overrun by whiners.  I hope its more like the first NG-- people bitched like hell at first, then played the game more, got good at it, and stopped caring about the flaws and "cheapness"


AdmiralViscern-- the other option on the mech dudes is ninpo.  A Piercing Void is guaranteed to take off a limb (then go in for the OT.)  But I think Inferno at Level 2 or 3 can take off limbs/kill a few of them at once. 
I think that strategy is what they intended, especially for the part with the bazooka guys on either side of the arena. Immediately after that fight, there's a ninpo essence chest.

I just rounded the corner instead so the rocket losers couldn't get me, and like I said I had to settle for using Life of a Thousand Gods.

I haven't used any healing items more potent than the regular herbs, and only in boss fights, so I think I'm just going to play loose with the healing from now on to get myself through the game with less frustration. I have all the weapons maxed that I want so I can afford to replace them if necessary. I have 4 weapons fully upgraded and the rest all lvl2 and I still have $60k.

Fortunately the rest of the level was a joke compared to that one 5 minute portion. Unbalanced game.

But Life of a Thousand Gods permanently increases your HP...why wouldn't you use it asap? Are you chasing some Achievement or something? genuinely : on this

[demi]

Life of a Thousand Gods also gives you full HP + extension, so they can be considered a healing item itself

[demi]

ps. these gold dragons are distinguished mentally-challenged... i keep dying but i can't tell what from

[Narag]

ps. these gold dragons are distinguished mentally-challenged... i keep dying but i can't tell what from

If its the boss, just be patient and use the UT shots. Once you take one down, its easy.

[demi]

Yeah I am doing that, but I find it weird that no sooner that I use a strong healing item, I die in one hit soon after

[Cormacaroni]

Life of a Thousand Gods also gives you full HP + extension, so they can be considered a healing item itself

I get what you're saying but...if you use it on chapter 2 instead of chapter 9, you'll have got lots and lots of regenerated health out of it. I use them ASAP.

[Narag]

Its more of a case if you really need it or not. I'd rather roll with less health than be caught without a healing item on some ridiculous fight.

[demi]

Wow... that Chapter 10 staircase... LMAO

They weren't kidding, that was hilarious

[Third]

Chapter 10fps lol

I don't think Itagaki played the game. Don't know how he could allow such framedrops. It was a pathetic showcase.

[AdmiralViscen]

Life of a Thousand Gods also gives you full HP + extension, so they can be considered a healing item itself

I get what you're saying but...if you use it on chapter 2 instead of chapter 9, you'll have got lots and lots of regenerated health out of it. I use them ASAP.

It's not like you only get one. I've used 5 or 6 already.

In any case I forgot they could be used to heal so the first 3 or 4 I used right away, then I got smart about it.

With the regenerating health and the easy regular enemies it's not like you really need that extra inch of health anyway. But you do need that quick fix for the annoying/hard parts.

[MCD]

chapter 5 boss was pretty cool, reminded me of zelda somehow.

i saved lives of the gods just for him lol, went down easily.

[Junpei the Tracer!]

This game is hard 

[MCD]

Werewolves Colosseum

Volf

[MCD]

flying fortress

awesome fucking fanservice.

[Darunia]

I'm on the castle now, nice setting.

The water dragon was by far the hardest boss I've faced so far, so many retries

I don't know what the general consensus is here, but to me NG1 >>2, at least of the chapters I've played. The encounters are less fun and rewarding than the first one. In the first one it was possible to go 50/50 on defense/offense, making for some strategic and intense battles. Here you need to be overly offensive to survive because there are more enemies per fight.

[MCD]

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[demi]

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[Vizzys]

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kohler likes to call it a dinosaur

it made him angry

[MCD]

it is, fortunately i was only playing on Normal and he wasn't hard to take down again.

[Vizzys]

i hear you fight two at one time later

have fun

[MCD]

I'm having fun with multiple rocket launchers up my ass alright.

[Jansen]

ninja gaiden 2 is better than 1 and dmc4 we stand around edition

also cry less you goddamn pussies.

now praise the god of action games itagaki

[Narag]

i hear you fight two at one time later

have fun

Its a pretty easy fight actually. Just have to go full on one of them to take it out then its a repeat of the boss fight from earlier.

[Junpei the Tracer!]

i hear you fight two at one time later

have fun

Its a pretty easy fight actually. Just have to go full on one of them to take it out then its a repeat of the boss fight from earlier.

Yup.

This game had way better ending credits than DMC4. However,after going through the last 3 chapters,I don't think I wanna go through any more difficulties anytime soon.Shit get crazy.

[Enl]

Finished the game yesterday. The last few levels of this game has some of the best build up to a finale that I've seen in a while.

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The descent in hell, fighing TWO atomic armadillos at once (and surprisingly beating them both without using a healing item), the stairs, the hall of blood and dead trees, the lake of blood filled with about 50 big fish monsters, the big fucking door thing, the battle of the final boss, and the amazing music that accompanied all of this.

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Overall I think this game is about equal to the first. The entertaining level design (sans first four stages) and upgraded combat system makes up for the lack of polish the first game had. I hope that even though Itagaki is leaving Team Ninja soon they would patch up some of the games flaws like the low camera and some of the unavoidable boss attacks (and add a mission mode). I doubt that this will happen though.

It's good to see that they changed the enemies again for Mentor mode. Lots of rockets and machine guns involved. That should make the first four stages more entertaining to play through until I get into the real meat of the game. It's too bad the costumes I unlocked are a joke compared to what we got in the first one.  

Final karma score: 18,814,063 Warrior mode

[Junpei the Tracer!]

Finished the game yesterday. The last few levels of this game has some of the best build up to a finale that I've seen in a while.

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The descent in hell, fighing TWO atomic armadillos at once (and surprisingly beating them both without using a healing item), the stairs, the hall of blood and dead trees, the lake of blood filled with about 50 big fish monsters, the big fucking door thing, the battle of the final boss, and the amazing music that accompanied all of this.

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SHIT GET CRAZY. That was really good though,more than once did I stop just to look around.

[Junpei the Tracer!]

WHY DIDN'T I GET THE 100 HIT ACHIEVEMENT? IT'S NOT FAIR.

[Don Flamenco]

Chapter 10fps lol

I don't think Itagaki played the game. Don't know how he could allow such framedrops. It was a pathetic showcase.

I think it may have had something to do with fighting 1000 ninjas at once.  and it was an awesome showcase...for the animation.  pretty sure that whole part was intentional--notice how they barely attack?   But jeez, you give 360 kids one game that runs at 60fps and suddenly they think they aren't running 3 year old hardware.



Ayane looks fucking awesome in this game. They got her character model perfect.  Hayashi or Alive 5 should be interesting.

and bloody tits ftw.

[AdmiralViscen]

Elizabet tried to fly into me, I dodged, she flew through the door I entered from and she's stuck in there. It sounds like a lawn mower and blood splashes through the door but she can't move, or hurt me, and I can't hurt her.

NG1 takes a fucking shit on this game.

[Draft]

It pains me to agree, and I don't to the same degree, but what's true is true.

NG2 needed 3 more months in the oven.

It's got framerate issues out the wazoo (NG had none), in battle loading (infrequent, but even once is too much, and NG had none) and is not terribly buggy, but buggy enough (NG was bug free.)

Every other aspect of the game is improved. Every one.

Level design is tighter.

The weapons just shit on NG1 weapons.

Enemies are tougher. More enemies make the fights much tougher and exciting. Obliteration Techniques are an incredibly satisfying addition to the combat system. Heal system + less healing items + regular ninpo use are all great changes.

If NG2 ran at a rock solid 60fps with no in level loading an no bugs, it would be so far beyond action game of forever. It would be perfect. The essence of action pressed into DVD9.

As it stands, it's a flawed masterpiece. And those flaws are too big and too frequent to ignore.

Fix the problems in NG2 Sigma, and you've got my $60 all over again. Guaranteed.

[demi]

I'm pretty sure if they made a NG2 sigma they would get your money anyway. YOU SCHILL

btw what is he saying in your avatar?

[AdmiralViscen]

I love 90% of the game, so I'm probably not as far off from you as you might think.

I'm up to chapter 13 now, and boy does it fucking suck. A bunch of straight line hallways, the biggest enemy of this game's camera, crammed with giant flying enemies that make me even blinder. I had to put it down, it's just too stupid. Then I get to continue refighting bosses

I'll beat it tomorrow though.

3 months in the oven would fix it for sure. that laggy staircase was a total fucking embarrassment, but it really wasn't a surprise. I don't know how they went from having one of the best looking, cleanest, smooth running, perfectly balanced games of last gen and turned it into a rough package like this. I guess that's what happens when the lead designer decides he's quitting halfway through the process.

It's a shame that 10% is so strikingly awful because the 90% is fluid, perfect, everything I wanted, and maybe just enough to keep me from ever touching NG1 again. I already want to replay the game but I doubt I'll do it anytime soon (or on higher difficulty) because those little 10 minute spots of annoyance really throw a monkey wrench in the 12 hour experience.

DLC level select please, Team Ninja, if you even give a shit anymore.


edit: Oh, but I think I'd have to say that "more enemies" is more a con than a pro, especially with the camera.

[Draft]

He's saying whatever you think he's saying.

And now that I'm a PS3 owner I probably will buy Sigma   

[demi]

I dont know what he's saying so I dont have a thought on what he is saying. So what is he saying?

[Draft]

What indeed?

[Narag]

He's saying whatever you think he's saying.

And now that I'm a PS3 owner I probably will buy Sigma   

Did you get your MGS4 bundle?

[demi]

What indeed?

Sounds like he is saying

"Tecmo President I demand you give me your money, or I will release an incomplete version of my game. Also, I always liked Devil May Cry 4, I was just too ashamed to admit it."

[Don Flamenco]

If NG2 ran at a rock solid 60fps with no in level loading an no bugs, it would be so far beyond action game of forever. It would be perfect. The essence of action pressed into DVD9.

coming to a 360 emulator near you in 2020! 


on a technical level, NGII is somewhere in between Sigma (bad) and Xbox NG (good)...Sigma's loading is death.  Otoh, the frame rate is more solid in that game. 

[MCD]

NG2 Sigma? you filthy sfag.

j/k but yeah, i was just cleaning the ninjas at the stairs and my god what a total shit it was, this game needs 6 month of polish and even then i doubt they can do it, it's just that awful of performance.

it's like, the whole game was on Itagaki's budget  

still, it rocks and it is certainly better than the first game.

 

[MCD]

Ayane

fanservice lol.

[Bildi]

I realise I'm terribly behind, but I finally got around to playing the demo and I feel like having a quick gush.   NG was one of my favourite games last gen, and I've just been reminded why it's so unbelievably awesome.

I forgot, but fighting enemies that aren't on screen is a staple of NG, and people complaining about the camera need to grow some balls.

In summary,  Itagaki , and I really need to get through my backlog so I can buy this.

[Draft]

He's saying whatever you think he's saying.

And now that I'm a PS3 owner I probably will buy Sigma   

Did you get your MGS4 bundle?

Yes. I'd almost forgotten about it until I saw the $500 charge on my credit card.

[AdmiralViscen]

I realise I'm terribly behind, but I finally got around to playing the demo and I feel like having a quick gush.   NG was one of my favourite games last gen, and I've just been reminded why it's so unbelievably awesome.

I forgot, but fighting enemies that aren't on screen is a staple of NG, and people complaining about the camera need to grow some balls.

In summary,  Itagaki , and I really need to get through my backlog so I can buy this.

Buy the game before you mouth off.

I've never complained about the camera in NG1 (and I don't even have Black) but it is markedly worse in this game.

[Draft]

The camera isn't worse. It's practically identical.

[muckhole]

The camera isn't worse. It's practically identical.

I think he may be referring to the camera angles, as opposed to the camera itself. I've found my view partially or completely blocked by foreground stuff more than a few times during NG2, which I don't really remember happening during combat in part 1.

[Himu]

the camera is identical, but the situations are different, thus the camera is worse. Don't tell me the camera ISN'T awful against the first Genshin fight or against the boss in chapter 8

[AdmiralViscen]

The camera isn't worse. It's practically identical.

The camera functioning is identical despite the way they changed environments and enemies. So it's worse.

[AdmiralViscen]

Great, a fucking centaur got stuck behind a closed door in chapter 14 so now I have to reset again. What the fuck is this game.

[Third]

Lol that sucks.
I got the 100 combo achievement thanks to a stuck enemy.