Author Topic: Movie News, Reviews, and Discussion Super-Thread (Read 5367797 times)

Assimilate · « **Reply #31560 on:** August 20, 2018, 08:36:30 PM »

Quote from: Stro on August 19, 2018, 06:23:10 PM

hated the 15min of Barry Lyndon I saw before I immediately returned the disc

You stupid fucking idiot you go back and rent that movie right the fuck now.

The movie is gorgeous.

Tasty · « **Reply #31561 on:** August 20, 2018, 08:38:46 PM »

I've seen a few vids of Thompson over the years but Depp felt like a caricature than impersonation to me. But I guess that's what he does.

Assimilate · « **Reply #31562 on:** August 20, 2018, 08:51:04 PM »

Quote from: Shostakovich on August 20, 2018, 08:48:57 PM

you might think that's a caricature but here's a video of hunter s. thompson and his neighbor exchanging gunfire because of a dispute over some cows

Tasty · « **Reply #31563 on:** August 20, 2018, 09:04:20 PM »

I know, it was linked on this site a few weeks ago.

Assimilate · « **Reply #31564 on:** August 20, 2018, 09:36:48 PM »

Quote from: Stro on August 20, 2018, 09:34:51 PM

Quote from: Assimilate on August 20, 2018, 08:36:30 PM
Quote from: Stro on August 19, 2018, 06:23:10 PM
hated the 15min of Barry Lyndon I saw before I immediately returned the disc
You stupid fucking idiot you go back and rent that movie right the fuck now.

The movie is gorgeous.

nah

whatever.

movie is a masterpiece. your loss.

chronovore · « **Reply #31565 on:** August 21, 2018, 12:00:54 AM »

Quote from: Stro on August 20, 2018, 06:37:43 PM

Quote from: chronovore on August 20, 2018, 06:21:23 PM
Quote from: Stro on August 19, 2018, 09:23:19 PM
Blade Runner fucking sucks, dawg

Go sit outside and think about what you've done.

I'll happily go sit outside and think about how I've done your mom

Gigolo to the elderly is a good career move for a man of your limited abilities. Enjoy the beef curtains among the taint waddles.

Bebpo · « **Reply #31566 on:** August 21, 2018, 01:48:35 AM »

Ghost Stories

Eh.

I enjoyed the bookshelf tale, but the ghost stories themselves were so undercooked it was hard to care. 1/3 are basically just "noises and then a ghost pops up. The end", the 2nd one seemed kinda fun in an Evil Dead Sam Raimi way with goofy goat-man and the kid from End of the F**king World being totally hilarious freaking out, but like 1 and 3 it ends way too early and is not very satisfying. The movie felt like a bunch of potential that never brings it to fruition. It was ok, but felt kinda empty imo.

Momo · « **Reply #31567 on:** August 21, 2018, 11:03:52 AM »

https://www.magsreader.com/robert-downey-jr-start-preps-for-sherlock-holmes-3/

Purrp Skirrp · « **Reply #31568 on:** August 21, 2018, 01:55:50 PM »

Quote from: Stro on August 19, 2018, 09:41:34 PM

Visually great, I think we can all agree on that.

Acting is dead fish bullshit, the leads have negative chemistry, the plot and pace is garbage, all versions of the movie fucking suck. Ridley is a hack! Ridley should have become a full time DP 40 years ago instead of a director.

Re: your parents' sex tape.

Visually great, I think we can all agree on that.

Acting is dead fish bullshit, the leads have negative chemistry, the plot and pace is garbage, all versions of the movie the fucking sucks. Your dad is a hack! Stro's mom should have used protection doing full time DP 30 years ago instead of recklessly spawning a wrestling stan.

Bebpo · « **Reply #31569 on:** August 21, 2018, 02:23:46 PM »

New Saulnier woooo

Still sucks about True Detective S3

paprikastaude · « **Reply #31570 on:** August 21, 2018, 02:30:56 PM »

I agree with the shit acting

Peak cringe is thirsty Ford assaulting the robot lady while porno-esque music plays. The sequel is better because it has the audiovisuals plus good acting.

VomKriege · « **Reply #31571 on:** August 21, 2018, 02:58:16 PM »

It's all about Hauer (and the visuals), really.

Tasty · « **Reply #31572 on:** August 21, 2018, 03:06:52 PM »

Quote from: VomKriege on August 21, 2018, 02:58:16 PM

It's all about Hauer (and the visuals), really.

TBH that's all I get out of it. And that's fine. It's an OK movie.

BR2049 is more traditional and modern, but not enough that it betrays the original. I also think it's a better film on all fronts, except maybe "nuance" (whatever that means.)

BR: 3 / 5
BR2049: 4 / 5

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #31573 on:** August 21, 2018, 03:13:36 PM »

You're an OK poster.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #31574 on:** August 21, 2018, 03:15:07 PM »

I prefered seeing K slowly losing his mind over Deckard sort of cooly walking though that world. The OG Blade Runner is slick and has a wonderful vibe but BR2049 stuck with me in deeper ways.

Tasty · « **Reply #31575 on:** August 21, 2018, 03:18:04 PM »

Quote from: Stro on August 21, 2018, 03:14:59 PM

Ridley Scott, king of nuance

Tasty · « **Reply #31576 on:** August 21, 2018, 03:19:30 PM »

Spoiler: it wasn't revealed in the sequel one way or the other.

paprikastaude · « **Reply #31577 on:** August 21, 2018, 03:24:44 PM »

Quote from: VomKriege on August 21, 2018, 02:58:16 PM

It's all about Hauer (and the visuals), really.

Vangelis

Tasty · « **Reply #31578 on:** August 21, 2018, 03:46:00 PM »

Quote

Anyway, I'm kind of burned out on this subject and know I'm the minority here.

Feel free to also step off that Harrison Ford-shaped cross while you're at it.

BR isn't lacking for praise, even here.

Tasty · « **Reply #31579 on:** August 21, 2018, 03:51:13 PM »

Now, BR2049 hate on the other hand is pretty unique, but comes off as tryhardy contrarianism.

Assimilate · « **Reply #31580 on:** August 21, 2018, 04:12:28 PM »

Why are people dogging Ridley Scott? Most directors would kill to have a filmography like that even with the occasional turd.

And for the record i enjoyed Prometheus. The problem with the movie wasn't completely Scott, it was the fucking writing/writer that he trusted.

Tasty · « **Reply #31581 on:** August 21, 2018, 04:18:18 PM »

Quote from: Assimilate on August 21, 2018, 04:12:28 PM

Why are people dogging Ridley Scott? Most directors would kill to have a filmography like that even with the occasional turd.

And for the record i enjoyed Prometheus. The problem with the movie wasn't completely Scott, it was the fucking writing/writer that he trusted.

I read the original Spaihts script front-to-back. It's definitely a lot better but it still shares a surprising number of flaws with the final film. After reading it I actually hated Lindelof a little less.

In an ideal timeline, we would have gotten Scott/Spaihts' Alien: Engineers, then Blomkamp's Alien 5, and then a massively improved (somehow) version of Covenant (ideally as Alien 6 and not another prequel, but could still feature Fass obviously. In fact Covenant only needs to be a prequel if you're following directly on from Prometheus, but not the original Alien: Engineers.)

Tasty · « **Reply #31582 on:** August 21, 2018, 04:22:24 PM »

What annoys me most with Prometheus/Covenant is the backtracking.

"Prometheus isn't an Alien prequel... now it is!"

"Prometheus is starting a new line of films that are in the Alien universe, but won't use 'Alien' in the title!" <Alien: Paradise Lost is announced, then renamed Alien: Covenant>

"This new line of films is about all these big ideas about our place in the universe, our makers, etc." <Covenant jettisons all that and kills Shaw offscreen for no reason (literally no reason, Noomi Rapace starred in a fucking web short that connected the two movies so she's obviously game)>

Etc.

I think I would have enjoyed Prometheus 2 more than Covenant, which I never would have thought a few years ago.

MMaRsu · « **Reply #31583 on:** August 21, 2018, 04:25:10 PM »

Just saw the movie Upgrade which I think was fantastic. The story is about a man who gets into a car accident with his wife and becomes a quadriplegic. Through some experimental treatment he gets a computer implant/chip which enables him to walk again, but at what price?

I won't give away too much about this movie, I'd say don't watch any trailers or shit ( I didn't ) and it will certainly surprise you.

A fantastic dark scifi action flick with some slight thriller/horror influences.

Purrp Skirrp · « **Reply #31584 on:** August 21, 2018, 04:33:19 PM »

BR's an uneven film and at times a slog to sit through for all the reasons Stro states.
It's absolutely carried by its audiovisuals: the synth OST, SFX and miniature work, world building and setting, the neo-noir styling.
Some of the themes resonate with me, but they come across a little half-baked (hence all the subsequent edits/cuts).
It doesn't suck, its influence is undeniable, but I'd rather listen to the soundtrack than watch it again.

Barry Lyndon tho

Yes, it's beautifully shot but beyond that it's a sweeping epic detailing the rise and fall of a doomed, self-destructive protagonist.
Don't let the setting deter you; the movie's so much more than that. It's like passing on Raging Bull because you aren't into boxing.

VomKriege · « **Reply #31585 on:** August 21, 2018, 04:54:54 PM »

Quote from: Assimilate on August 21, 2018, 04:12:28 PM

Why are people dogging Ridley Scott? Most directors would kill to have a filmography like that even with the occasional turd.

And for the record i enjoyed Prometheus. The problem with the movie wasn't completely Scott, it was the fucking writing/writer that he trusted.

I think I would sum it up like this :
- He started making mediocre films pretty fast (Do you remember Someone to Watch Over Me ? A lot of people sure don't and it's not unwarranted...) and you never know if with every new film you'll get a decent, bad or straight up shitty one (I thought American Gangster was the lamest thing ever). There doesn't seem to be much rhyme and reason to it (it's not linear decline or evolving through different stages) and even when the films have obvious qualities and are influential (Kingdom of Heaven, Black Hawk Down, Gladiator) I find they always come short as a whole.
- His weird insistence of trying to "own", force feed us with his ideas (and convince us they were always the one and only plan)) and constantly iterate with more fluff to tack on his two most major works gives the vibe the guy doesn't really get the message or meaning (plus weirdly insecure) of the films. It gives flesh to the idea he's a talented formalist (though very hit and miss, didn't find Prometheus cinematography gorgeous but I won't deny it had better production design than your average Hollywood fare) but an incomplete filmmaker (or not very adept at the story part). Which would explain why his movies are all around the place in terms of quality. I'd say the dreadful shlock that was Hannibal is another piece of evidence he doesn't have the best of handle on what makes the source material great.

But sure, for all its flaws, I'd rather take someone like him who at least has character (occasionally going for odd choice of subject matter) than... I dunno, JJ Abrams or Ron Howard.

Tasty · « **Reply #31586 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:08:19 PM »

Sorta related but TIL that Rutger Hauer was in Batman Begins.

Assimilate · « **Reply #31587 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:19:16 PM »

This is because R.Scott has always been a visual director, much like his younger brother, they were never good script writers or anything. He needs to be handed something solid with proper oversight.

This why Prometheus/Covenant is such a fucking disaster of back and forth studio wrangling. He doesn't know what to do, he ends up defaulting to others and if they don't pull through for him he releases whatever turd he ends up directing.

bork · « **Reply #31588 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:19:37 PM »

Doctor Detroit: Forgettable early Dan Akroyd movie from 1983, where he plays a college professor who gets roped into being a fake pimp after a real pimp makes up a story about an infamous pimp from Detroit muscling in on a crime boss's territory. The crime boss is named "mom" and the joke is that she's an old lady. OK. Fran Drescher plays one of the hookers and James Brown also pops up at the end to sing a song at a players' ball. And that's about it. It wasn't that funny, Akroyd's character doesn't seem capable of being the type to pretend to be a pimp, yet just gets right into it like it's no problem. For some reason, the studio thought this was going to be a huge hit:

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In her autobiography, Enter Whining, Fran Drescher commented that this film was expected to be a major hit for the summer of 1983, but that it fell short of that expectation; by the time the film ended its run in theaters, it had only managed to make US$10.8 million, on a budget of US$8 million.

The end titles promised the release of Doctor Detroit II: The Wrath of Mom, meant as a gag based on Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, released eleven months previously. Aykroyd was said to have been writing the script; however, the project never went into production due to the poor box office results of the original.

Tasty · « **Reply #31589 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:35:01 PM »

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2001 by way of AvP

Stealing this accurate description of Prometheus for later.

VomKriege · « **Reply #31590 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:37:50 PM »

Quote from: Assimilate on August 21, 2018, 05:19:16 PM

This is because R.Scott has always been a visual director, much like his younger brother, they were never good script writers or anything. He needs to be handed something solid with proper oversight.

This why Prometheus/Covenant is such a fucking disaster of back and forth studio wrangling. He doesn't know what to do, he ends up defaulting to others and if they don't pull through for him he releases whatever turd he ends up directing.

The problem is not that he is not a script writer (many if not most guys in Hollywood aren't) but a baffling occasional blindness to the very core of what he is illustrating.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #31591 on:** August 21, 2018, 07:17:44 PM »

I don't care what anybody says, this is one of the greatest opening scenes in any movie ever. BR is a fantastic movie that I've watched many times and could break out and watch through again right now. Yeah, okay, it's got some issues here and there that you can pick at if you really want to, but you know what? I don't care. I love Blade Runner, it does virtually everything that I want a scifi movie to do and it does better than pretty much any other movie of its kind.

TVC15 · « **Reply #31592 on:** August 21, 2018, 07:40:09 PM »

Quote from: Exodust on August 21, 2018, 03:36:59 PM

Dude I'm not disputing that the man is insane. I'm mostly referring to his very first two movies and you're bringing up decades later quotes. He probably was always crazy so I'm not sure what changed since then, be that as it may I would describe Alien and Blade runner as two fantastic movies that knew not to show too much and I don't know what Ridley Scotts recent hijinks has to do with that. As, again, I agree that he's a weird asshole who does hilarious shit on the regular.

Anyway, I'm kind of burned out on this subject and know I'm the minority here. Doesn't help that the original is a divisive movie in and of itself. So I'll stop the care posting for now.

Who here’s talking about The Duellists? That’s waaaaaaaaaaaay better than the original Blade Runner, which is like a 6 out of 10 with an asterisk next to it, at best.

Tasty · « **Reply #31593 on:** August 21, 2018, 07:57:15 PM »

spoiler (click to show/hide)

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I feel like we missed out on the best version of Alien 3. (This is the draft by Eric Red which he's since disowned, btw.)

Tasty · « **Reply #31594 on:** August 21, 2018, 07:59:45 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on August 21, 2018, 07:40:09 PM

Who here’s talking about The Duellists?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #31595 on:** August 21, 2018, 08:10:01 PM »

There was Russ, Terry, Lauren, and Laurie, was this a foursome?

Tasty · « **Reply #31596 on:** August 21, 2018, 08:15:49 PM »

His draft was notorious for being rushed and essentially just being a bunch of producer ideas cobbled together in script form.

Like I said the author totally disowned it.

Tasty · « **Reply #31597 on:** August 21, 2018, 08:16:37 PM »

Though it's possible Scott took inspiration from that scene for the completely necessary shower-sex-murder scene in his highly-regarded film Alien: Covenant.

Leadbelly · « **Reply #31598 on:** August 21, 2018, 08:43:27 PM »

Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is distinguished mentally-challenged or not.

Tasty · « **Reply #31599 on:** August 21, 2018, 08:45:13 PM »

Quote from: Leadbelly on August 21, 2018, 08:43:27 PM

Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is lacking in mental fortitude or not.

Well... you'll see.

Leadbelly · « **Reply #31600 on:** August 21, 2018, 09:12:26 PM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on August 21, 2018, 08:45:13 PM

Quote from: Leadbelly on August 21, 2018, 08:43:27 PM
Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is lacking in mental fortitude or not.

Well... you'll see.

Okaaaaaaaaaaay. That was unexpected. I guess whether she was distinguished mentally-challenged or not was the least of her worries.

Tasty · « **Reply #31601 on:** August 21, 2018, 09:25:26 PM »

I got to reading that script since I found a new fave YT channel.

Dude's vids are 80% making-ofs, 15% his opinion on the movie, and 5% ancilliary elements (soundtrack, games, rides, etc.) This was the fifth of his vids I watched today (Batman Begins is also particularly good) and it won't be the last (Alien Resurrection next!)

For Alien 3 he does a great job summing up my own opinions, mostly.

Tasty · « **Reply #31602 on:** August 21, 2018, 09:31:03 PM »

Quote from: Leadbelly on August 21, 2018, 09:12:26 PM

Quote from: Tasty Meat on August 21, 2018, 08:45:13 PM
Quote from: Leadbelly on August 21, 2018, 08:43:27 PM
Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is lacking in mental fortitude or not.

Well... you'll see.

Okaaaaaaaaaaay. That was unexpected. I guess whether she was lacking in mental fortitude or not was the least of her worries.

Well... you'll see.

Assimilate · « **Reply #31603 on:** August 21, 2018, 09:32:07 PM »

Blade Runner is one of the best sci films of all time. We shouldn't even be entertaining dissenters at this point.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #31604 on:** August 21, 2018, 09:43:04 PM »

Quote from: Stro on August 21, 2018, 09:34:11 PM

Ridley himself said that 2001 ruined the sci-fi film because nothing could compare, ergo Blade Runner is poop

He also said that Prometheus was a good movie, you gonna believe that guy?

Mupepe · « **Reply #31605 on:** August 21, 2018, 10:01:18 PM »

Quote from: Leadbelly on August 21, 2018, 08:43:27 PM

Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is lacking in mental fortitude or not.

Went to preorder the movie on home release and it’s not coming out on 4K? Wtf?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #31606 on:** August 21, 2018, 10:02:33 PM »

Quote from: Mupepe on August 21, 2018, 10:01:18 PM

Quote from: Leadbelly on August 21, 2018, 08:43:27 PM
Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is lacking in mental fortitude or not.
Went to preorder the movie on home release and it’s not coming out on 4K? Wtf?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hereditary-includes-digital-copy-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-blu-ray-2018/6288344.p?skuId=6288344

Leadbelly · « **Reply #31607 on:** August 21, 2018, 10:51:26 PM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on August 21, 2018, 09:31:03 PM

Quote from: Leadbelly on August 21, 2018, 09:12:26 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on August 21, 2018, 08:45:13 PM
Quote from: Leadbelly on August 21, 2018, 08:43:27 PM
Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is lacking in mental fortitude or not.

Well... you'll see.
Okaaaaaaaaaaay. That was unexpected. I guess whether she was lacking in mental fortitude or not was the least of her worries.

Well... you'll see.

Yeah. Hail Charlie!

I don't know. Seems to get less interesting the longer it goes on. Becomes more formulaic.

Tasty · « **Reply #31608 on:** August 21, 2018, 10:52:40 PM »

Quote from: Leadbelly on August 21, 2018, 10:51:26 PM

Quote from: Tasty Meat on August 21, 2018, 09:31:03 PM
Quote from: Leadbelly on August 21, 2018, 09:12:26 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on August 21, 2018, 08:45:13 PM
Quote from: Leadbelly on August 21, 2018, 08:43:27 PM
Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is lacking in mental fortitude or not.

Well... you'll see.
Okaaaaaaaaaaay. That was unexpected. I guess whether she was lacking in mental fortitude or not was the least of her worries.

Well... you'll see.

Yeah. Hail Charlie!

I don't know. Seems to get less interesting the longer it goes on. Becomes more formulaic.

Yup, agreed.

Assimilate · « **Reply #31609 on:** August 21, 2018, 11:11:41 PM »

Quote from: Stro on August 21, 2018, 09:34:11 PM

Ridley himself said that 2001 ruined the sci-fi film because nothing could compare, ergo Blade Runner is poop

2001 is the best sci fi film of all time then i would say The Matrix and then Blade Runner.

Tasty · « **Reply #31610 on:** August 21, 2018, 11:13:39 PM »

What was the best decade for American blockbuster-y movies?

It's either the 80s or the 90s.

Hard to top T2, Jurassic Park, and The Matrix all within 9 years of each other IMO, so I'm giving it to the 1990s.

Tasty · « **Reply #31611 on:** August 21, 2018, 11:51:57 PM »

Average quality wise, 80's probably take it, but man. Those three. That trifecta.

I don't think I like any movie from the 80s as much as The Matrix.

Mandark · « **Reply #31612 on:** August 21, 2018, 11:57:20 PM »

Which was the wildly successful box office hit that's more inexplicable in hindsight?

Crocodile Dundee vs. Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves.

Tasty · « **Reply #31613 on:** August 22, 2018, 12:06:46 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on August 21, 2018, 11:57:20 PM

Which was the wildly successful box office hit that's more inexplicable in hindsight?

Crocodile Dundee vs. Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves.

Twins, starring Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny Devito.

Adjusted for inflation, it almost made half a bil.

Huff · « **Reply #31614 on:** August 22, 2018, 02:13:48 AM »

Surf Ninjas was in the 90s.

Need I say more

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #31615 on:** August 22, 2018, 03:04:21 AM »

Oliver Harper is pretty good. I enjoy his earnest and less cynical look at movies. His retrospectives can be pretty informative and the podcasts/commentaries pretty entertaining.

Mupepe · « **Reply #31616 on:** August 22, 2018, 07:35:41 AM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on August 21, 2018, 10:02:33 PM

Quote from: Mupepe on August 21, 2018, 10:01:18 PM
Quote from: Leadbelly on August 21, 2018, 08:43:27 PM
Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is lacking in mental fortitude or not.
Went to preorder the movie on home release and it’s not coming out on 4K? Wtf?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hereditary-includes-digital-copy-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-blu-ray-2018/6288344.p?skuId=6288344

I guess Amazon's stuff is broken. They list 4k on the initial search results but when you click into the item it's only Blu Ray or DVD.

MMaRsu · « **Reply #31617 on:** August 22, 2018, 08:49:36 AM »

The two times I tried to watch BR I fell asleep because of boredom and weed

Assimilate · « **Reply #31618 on:** August 22, 2018, 09:15:23 AM »

the 90s had some really gritty shit. It was a very gritty decade overall.

Bebpo · « **Reply #31619 on:** August 22, 2018, 02:41:23 PM »

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/end-fing-world-renewed-season-2-netflix-channel-4-1136308

Best TV show of 2017/18 gets more, yayyyy

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