Movie News, Reviews, and Discussion Super-Thread

[Diunx]

I didn't like Goldeneye, that movie took two steps back from the awesome Timothy Dalton era and went back to the Roger Moore era cheesiness and this time all the ridiculous stunts were done with cgi and green screen so they weren't as enjoyable not to mention that Brosnan didn't have half the charisma that Moore had

[Diunx]

Apparently Snyder has Miller's blessing to do DKR. CLINT EASTWOOD AS BATMAN

Snyder and Miller can go suck each others dicks I don't want them near this franchise.

[ManaByte]

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[Diunx]

Its a shame Batman 3 is not gonna be 3d, not everyone has an Imax in their country

[Cheebs]

I agree. As some other people have been wondering about the possibility of a 4th Batman movie from Nolan... I think this one should have been something different and then the 4th one should be called The Dark Knight Returns. With old Batman and shit.

But all of this is just silly talk of course. Let's first see this upcoming movie before judging it and making wild speculations about the future of these movies.

Nolan said there won't be a fourth film. That what was appealing to him about doing the third was that it'd be the finale. That'd he'd have the story that started in BB find it's ending.


Any fourth batman would be a reboot, like what sony is doing with Spider-Man.

[Diunx]

WB will just trow a bag of money at Nolan so he can stay as a producer and another one at Bale so he keeps playing batman, rebooting what will most certainly be a critically and commercially successful franchise would be stupid unless Nolan kills batman or something and they have no choice.

[Cheebs]

WB will just trow a bag of money at Nolan so he can stay as a producer and another one at Bale so he keeps playing batman, rebooting what will most certainly be a critically and commercially successful franchise would be stupid unless Nolan kills batman or something and they have no choice.

Well Nolan did say the main reason he is doing this is because he wants to end it, to have the first super hero franchise to have closure and a real ending. That'd pretty much destroy his main motivation behind doing the movie. He and Goyer even laid out a basic plot outline for a complete trilogy when doing Batman Begins.

Batman movies wont end, that franchise is the biggest super hero franchise there is. Nothing is even close. Warners isn't insane. I just doubt Warners would do direct sequels to Nolans trilogy without Nolans backing (and based on how he has talked about Batman 3 he'd be very against doing a fourth). Batman movies will never end but Nolan's seem very likely to end with the third movie.

[Diunx]

It really doesn't matter what Nolan says right now, when the time comes the deciding factor will be the amount of money that WB trows to keep him on board he may say no because of the reasons you mention but he may also say yes, but I can assure you the last thing that WB wants is rebooting the franchise again anytime soon.

[Solo]

lmao Solo seriously thinks "The Caped Crusader" would be a good title for the third Batman film

Like I said at GAF, you cannot accept "The Dark Knight" and shit on that one - they are the same shit. I mentioned it because anything is better than The Dark Knight........RISES!

[WrikaWrek]

Batman isn't the biggest super hero franchise there is.

TDK just had a whole lot of fuss around it because of Ledgers death. When the next one comes out and it does 700 million tops, people will understand. Spiderman is the biggest super hero franchise there is.

[Great Rumbler]

Batman isn't the biggest super hero franchise there is.

TDK just had a whole lot of fuss around it because of Ledgers death. When the next one comes out and it does 700 million tops, people will understand. Spiderman is the biggest super hero franchise there is.

So you're saying the third and final Batman movie [of this trilogy] will make $100 million less than Inception?

[Solo]

Spiderman is the biggest super hero franchise there is.

Thank you for saying this so I didn't have to.

[WrikaWrek]

Batman isn't the biggest super hero franchise there is.

TDK just had a whole lot of fuss around it because of Ledgers death. When the next one comes out and it does 700 million tops, people will understand. Spiderman is the biggest super hero franchise there is.

So you're saying the third and final Batman movie [of this trilogy] will make $100 million less than Inception?

Sorry what does Inception have to do with Batman?

Inception had stellar build up, had originality, premise, promise, it had a big ass fucking star in Leo Dicaprio looking badass in every piece of media about the movie, and it just had great reviews.

TDK made a 700 million jump over Batman Begins. Just so you know, Batman's highest was 400 million, Begins is was the 2nd highest grossing Batman movie. You think what? That somehow the fanbase was there, they were just waiting in the bushes all these years?

First Spider Man movie made over 800 million. The last Spiderman movie made almost 900 million and it was a piece of shit. See now that's a guaranteed audience.

[Diunx]

Wrika is right guys I mean just look at all those Ledger movies that made 1 billion dollars worldwide all that batman money came out of his fanbase.

Also don't forget the uber popular Dr. Parnassus

[Great Rumbler]

Batman isn't the biggest super hero franchise there is.

TDK just had a whole lot of fuss around it because of Ledgers death. When the next one comes out and it does 700 million tops, people will understand. Spiderman is the biggest super hero franchise there is.

So you're saying the third and final Batman movie [of this trilogy] will make $100 million less than Inception?

Sorry what does Inception have to do with Batman?

Inception had stellar build up, had originality, premise, promise, it had a big ass fucking star in Leo Dicaprio looking badass in every piece of media about the movie, and it just had great reviews.

TDK made a 700 million jump over Batman Begins. Just so you know, Batman's highest was 400 million, Begins is was the 2nd highest grossing Batman movie. You think what? That somehow the fanbase was there, they were just waiting in the bushes all these years?

First Spider Man movie made over 800 million. The last Spiderman movie made almost 900 million and it was a piece of shit. See now that's a guaranteed audience.

You honestly think Ledger's death accounted for $700 million?

[Diunx]

Unlike the Batman fanbase the Ledger one was actually waiting in the bushes for him to die to finally go see one of his movies.

[WrikaWrek]

Batman isn't the biggest super hero franchise there is.

TDK just had a whole lot of fuss around it because of Ledgers death. When the next one comes out and it does 700 million tops, people will understand. Spiderman is the biggest super hero franchise there is.

So you're saying the third and final Batman movie [of this trilogy] will make $100 million less than Inception?

Sorry what does Inception have to do with Batman?

Inception had stellar build up, had originality, premise, promise, it had a big ass fucking star in Leo Dicaprio looking badass in every piece of media about the movie, and it just had great reviews.

TDK made a 700 million jump over Batman Begins. Just so you know, Batman's highest was 400 million, Begins is was the 2nd highest grossing Batman movie. You think what? That somehow the fanbase was there, they were just waiting in the bushes all these years?

First Spider Man movie made over 800 million. The last Spiderman movie made almost 900 million and it was a piece of shit. See now that's a guaranteed audience.

You honestly think Ledger's death accounted for $700 million?

Most of the Hype the movie got was concerning the character of the joker and the actor behind it and what happened to him. Yes, i truly believe that the only reason the movie didn't stop at the 600/700 million mark was because of that.

[Great Rumbler]

Batman isn't the biggest super hero franchise there is.

TDK just had a whole lot of fuss around it because of Ledgers death. When the next one comes out and it does 700 million tops, people will understand. Spiderman is the biggest super hero franchise there is.

So you're saying the third and final Batman movie [of this trilogy] will make $100 million less than Inception?

Sorry what does Inception have to do with Batman?

Inception had stellar build up, had originality, premise, promise, it had a big ass fucking star in Leo Dicaprio looking badass in every piece of media about the movie, and it just had great reviews.

TDK made a 700 million jump over Batman Begins. Just so you know, Batman's highest was 400 million, Begins is was the 2nd highest grossing Batman movie. You think what? That somehow the fanbase was there, they were just waiting in the bushes all these years?

First Spider Man movie made over 800 million. The last Spiderman movie made almost 900 million and it was a piece of shit. See now that's a guaranteed audience.

You honestly think Ledger's death accounted for $700 million?

Most of the Hype the movie got was concerning the character of the joker and the actor behind it and what happened to him. Yes, i truly believe that the only reason the movie didn't stop at the 600/700 million mark was because of that.

Ledger's death helped TDK have a $158 million opening weekend, but that wasn't what kept people coming back week after week to push the domestic total up to $533 million.

Of course, I'm absolutely SURE that it's massive gross didn't have anything to do with it being a very well-received sequel to a well-received movie.

[Cheebs]

There is a Spider-Man movie and Batman movie out in summer 2012.

Spider-Man's gross won't even be within 100 mil of Batman.

[cool breeze]

lmao Solo seriously thinks "The Caped Crusader" would be a good title for the third Batman film

Like I said at GAF, you cannot accept "The Dark Knight" and shit on that one - they are the same shit. I mentioned it because anything is better than The Dark Knight........RISES!

You really think The Dark Knight and The Caped Crusader are the same?  Caped Crusader evokes the old Adam West series and a campier Batman.  Dark Knight is more like, uh, Dark Knight Returns (hurrrr) and Year One, which was an inspiration for Batman Begins.

[Solo]

Knight, crusader, same shit. Dark? Well I guess Bruce is dark. Caped? Well, he does wear one.

There is a Spider-Man movie and Batman movie out in summer 2012.

Spider-Man's gross won't even be within 100 mil of Batman.

  Come on man, you can do better than that! Of course that's true - Batman 3 is coming off a hugely successful Batman 2, while S-M is a complete reboot with unknowns involved on all levels. Had it been S-M4 with Maguire and Raimi, you wouldnt be singing this tune.

[Great Rumbler]

Come on man, you can do better than that! Of course that's true - Batman 3 is coming off a hugely successful Batman 2, while S-M is a complete reboot with unknowns involved on all levels. Had it been S-M4 with Maguire and Raimi, you wouldnt be singing this tune.

Come back when Spider-Man has a movie that makes more than a billion dollars worldwide. 

[Diunx]

Knight, crusader, same shit. Dark? Well I guess Bruce is dark. Caped? Well, he does wear one.

There is a Spider-Man movie and Batman movie out in summer 2012.

Spider-Man's gross won't even be within 100 mil of Batman.

  Come on man, you can do better than that! Of course that's true - Batman 3 is coming off a hugely successful Batman 2, while S-M is a complete reboot with unknowns involved on all levels. Had it been S-M4 with Maguire and Raimi, you wouldnt be singing this tune.

After the disaster that was Spiderman 3 I doubt that people would go and happily pay money for the sequel, it would make a lot of money but not as much as 3.

[Great Rumbler]

Knight, crusader, same shit. Dark? Well I guess Bruce is dark. Caped? Well, he does wear one.

There is a Spider-Man movie and Batman movie out in summer 2012.

Spider-Man's gross won't even be within 100 mil of Batman.

  Come on man, you can do better than that! Of course that's true - Batman 3 is coming off a hugely successful Batman 2, while S-M is a complete reboot with unknowns involved on all levels. Had it been S-M4 with Maguire and Raimi, you wouldnt be singing this tune.

After the disaster that was Spiderman 3 I doubt that people would go and happily pay money for the sequel, it would make a lot of money but not as much as 3.

Yeah, I think so too. Spider-Man 3 was already the lowest of the three domestically, but it inexplicably did really, really well overseas.

[Powerslave]

lmao Solo seriously thinks "The Caped Crusader" would be a good title for the third Batman film

Like I said at GAF, you cannot accept "The Dark Knight" and shit on that one - they are the same shit. I mentioned it because anything is better than The Dark Knight........RISES!

You really think The Dark Knight and The Caped Crusader are the same?  Caped Crusader evokes the old Adam West series and a campier Batman. 

Yep, it's corny as fuck. End of discussion Solo, you're in quicksand and no one's here to rescue you. Stop trying to work yourself out.

[Eric P]

netflix has a great documentary that i think Eel would love.  American Grindhouse.  Traces everything from ballyhoo to Black Dynamite with several good on camera interviews and a lot of films I hadn't actually seen

[Powerslave]

Batman Begins

Pretty much everyone's acting in this movie is way better than in TDK. Everyone must have been in complete confusion how Ledger outclassed all of them by tenfold so they lost all their confidence in their abilities.
Now to turn back to Begins; it's a great movie, the fighting scenes are a bit unclear but way better than most shitty impossible-to-follow-quick-cut fight scenes in 99.99% of all other movies.
Another thing I forgot about this movie after I first saw it was how much CG there is in it. They made the city resemble Midgar and it's slums to some degree. Also the movie is way too brown/orange. It's visually boring and doesn't fit quite well in a Batman movie. Glad TDK fixed this.
I really liked to see Bruce slowly getting ideas on how to get and make his suit and gear/gadgets. Things like that are always interesting to see, like how they explained what the suit was originally intended for.

[Great Rumbler]

Pretty much everyone's acting in this movie is way better than in TDK.

Even Katie Holmes?

[Powerslave]

Katie Holmes wasn't in TDK, so you didn't get what I was saying. But regardless of that she didn't annoy me at all. Only stupid thing was how little the fear gas affected her. It's like she said "oh fuck I can't act all terrified and crazy, better just act dizzy as fuck".
Way better than Maggie Gyllelleehajasayksallllll at least.

[Solo]

Yep, it's corny as fuck. End of discussion Solo

Oh, its ended? Pity.

[Cheebs]

Knight, crusader, same shit. Dark? Well I guess Bruce is dark. Caped? Well, he does wear one.

There is a Spider-Man movie and Batman movie out in summer 2012.

Spider-Man's gross won't even be within 100 mil of Batman.

  Come on man, you can do better than that! Of course that's true - Batman 3 is coming off a hugely successful Batman 2, while S-M is a complete reboot with unknowns involved on all levels. Had it been S-M4 with Maguire and Raimi, you wouldnt be singing this tune.

Spider-Man 3 made around 300 mil and had terrible word of mouth. The Dark Knight made 500 mil and had excellent word of mouth.

Yeah, I would say TDKR would easily make over 100 million more than a Sam Raimi directed Spider-Man 4.

[Raban]

My comic book friend and I always found Batman Begins to be a more rounded out superhero film, where TDK is trying to be a lot of things at once. Both are great, but I personally find Begins to be a stronger film, simply because it isn't the one-man-show TDK was.

[Great Rumbler]

Katie Holmes wasn't in TDK, so you didn't get what I was saying.

Uh...no, I did get what you were saying. I was asking if you thought Katie Holmes acting was better than anything in TDK.

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It's not, by the way. Katie Holmes acting was terrible.

[close]

[Powerslave]

Better than Ledger.

[Powerslave]

heh totally owned Solo back there

[Raban]

The more I think about it, "Batman" would be the perfect title.

Had they kept it out of the titles completely with the first two movies, I'd agree with you. Had Batman Begins avoid using Batman like TDK did, then Batman would be the perfect title because the first two films were more about Batman's synthesis, and the third one wrapping it up would finally exhibit Batman as we know him now.

Then again, it kind of still works since it would pair with the first. Hmm.

[ManaByte]

Yes kill your biggest film franchise.

[Fresh Prince]

They've already done it with Harvey Dent, wrath. Dark Knight rising would indicate he was actually winning and ending the trilogy on a positive note.

[Raban]

The end of Rises should just show old man Bruce Wayne, sitting in his mansion with the Batman Beyond suit seen in the background.

Way too easy for future raping.

They've already done it with Harvey Dent, wrath. Dark Knight rising would indicate he was actually winning and ending the trilogy on a positive note.

Agreed. I like the idea of Rises ending with Batman being old, but don't allude to anything more.

[Fresh Prince]

Eh it's fun to speculate. Dent was a hero because he was infalliable. Batman after he killed cops isn't.
Nolan's 'realistic' ending I imagine would be the main psychopaths would be taken care of and Batman moping up after a new and invigorated police force reducing his duties. I guess the myth part would be is he still there or not. 

Then the series could be rebooted when there's, 'Oh fuck Ras-Al-Ghul\ The Joker\ Doughboy is back' by whoever else.

[Solo]

Spider-Man 3 made around 300 mil and had terrible word of mouth. The Dark Knight made 500 mil and had excellent word of mouth.

Yeah, I would say TDKR would easily make over 100 million more than a Sam Raimi directed Spider-Man 4.

Spider-Man 3 made the most of any of the Spider-Man movies worldwide. And TDK2: RIIIIISE is going to make much less domestically than TDK did (although I think it will make more overseas, bringing its WW total to about the same as TDK's).

[Cheebs]

Spider-Man 3 made around 300 mil and had terrible word of mouth. The Dark Knight made 500 mil and had excellent word of mouth.

Yeah, I would say TDKR would easily make over 100 million more than a Sam Raimi directed Spider-Man 4.

Spider-Man 3 made the most of any of the Spider-Man movies worldwide. And TDK2: RIIIIISE is going to make much less domestically than TDK did (although I think it will make more overseas, bringing its WW total to about the same as TDK's).

Spider-Man 4 would have a huge drop off after Spidey 3.

I'd say Spider-Man 4 would do over 250 mil but not 300 like part 3 due to the terrible word of the mouth from part 3. TDKR will have a drop off too but still do 400 mil. I can't see how it is even debatable which would win.

There is no way that post-Spider-Man 3 and post-The Dark Knight it is at all possible to say going forward the Raimi Spider-Man franchise would be bigger than Nolan's Batman after those last two entries with their respective reception and boxoffice results.

[ManaByte]

The only way RISE will make anything close to TDK is if one of the actors dies of a drug overdose prior to release, that way fanboys will see it 25 times in theaters in a pathetic form of "respect".

[Great Rumbler]

The only way RISE will make anything close to TDK is if one of the actors dies of a drug overdose prior to release, that way fanboys will see it 25 times in theaters in a pathetic form of "respect".

I always like when people make such grandiose box office predictions, because they almost always end up being completely wrong.

[Cheebs]

Thinking about it 2012 is looking pretty solid for nerdy blockbuster movies already. Spider-Man reboot, The Hobbit, Star Trek, Batman...etc

[Great Rumbler]

Thinking about it 2012 is looking pretty solid for nerdy blockbuster movies already. Spider-Man reboot, The Hobbit, Star Trek, Batman...etc

Don't forget The Avengers!

[Solo]

Thinking about it 2012 is looking pretty solid for nerdy blockbuster movies already. Spider-Man reboot, The Hobbit, Star Trek, Batman...etc

Don't forget The Avengers!

Also known as The Trainwreck

[chronovore]

Guys recommend me some horror movies that deals with the occult,satán,witches and shit like that.

The Ninth Gate. Good, but a little slow.

[chronovore]

Avatar: Special Edition, 3D: I decided with the mixed reaction here that the movie could only benefit from being seen on a big screen. I also wanted to see why Cameron was pushing for 3D technology adoption so hard.

I never saw the original, so I have no idea what was added or subtracted from it. It didn't feel overly long, but it just wasn't all that impressive a story. It was a fairly typical action movie, benefiting from some "wow" factor in 3D, and a LOT of really excellent CG. Whatever they were feeding the animators on Avatar, they need to flow some of that good shit to the TRON LEGACY team working on Young Jeff Bridges. The lip synch stuff is just amazing; catching a lot of remarkable nuance in the performances.

I spend a lot of time trying to figure out if I was going to get a glimpse of Na'vi nipple or other naughty bits. It's like when a girl is wearing a really high midriff shirt, and it seems like you'll catch a glimpse of side-boob or under-boob. It's distracting.

WETA is amazing. It's a joke that ILM gets any money at all anymore. WETA owns them at every turn.

The "magic native" angle and "white guilt" angle were superbly overt. It may have been nice to see why the hell floating rocks are needed back on earth. Then again, it would have been nice to know why a strongly militarily backed production has a metric ass-ton of helicopter, an impractically large gunship of Miyazaki-anime scale, an atmospheric/orbital capable shuttle, but for a bomb they're limited to taping a bunch of mining explosives together on a shipping pallet and dropping them out the back of the non-military craft while flying really slowly. Um.

Col. Clawface was fun. Jake Sully was good, and Nateeralolly-lolly was super impressive in her range of expression. I didn't need to see another Cameron speciality: the hard-boiled, doomed latina warrior woman, or the tough female pilot. At least this time he rolled them into the same character to save time.

It's not a bad movie, but it's elevated solely on its technical merits, which are impressive.

[Phoenix Dark]

The only way RISE will make anything close to TDK is if one of the actors dies of a drug overdose prior to release, that way fanboys will see it 25 times in theaters in a pathetic form of "respect".

I always like when people make such grandiose box office predictions, because they almost always end up being completely wrong.

Actually he's right. TDK was very good, but it owes a lot of its success to Ledger's death which immortalized his performance. The movie would have done extremely well if he had lived, but his death took it to another level.

Considering Inception almost made $300 million in the US alone, it's not crazy to suggest The Dark Knight Rising could make $400 million in the US. It won't have any competition (lol spiderman, avengerz)

[Great Rumbler]

The only way RISE will make anything close to TDK is if one of the actors dies of a drug overdose prior to release, that way fanboys will see it 25 times in theaters in a pathetic form of "respect".

I always like when people make such grandiose box office predictions, because they almost always end up being completely wrong.

Actually he's right. TDK was very good, but it owes a lot of its success to Ledger's death which immortalized his performance. The movie would have done extremely well if he had lived, but his death took it to another level.

Considering Inception almost made $300 million in the US alone, it's not crazy to suggest The Dark Knight Rising could make $400 million in the US. It won't have any competition (lol spiderman, avengerz)

Nobody's saying that it didn't have some impact, because it obviously did. But TDK didn't get to $1 billion worldwide on that alone. And I think TDK drew in a lot of people who will show up again in 2012 to see the end of the trilogy.

[Dickie Dee]

[Phoenix Dark]

The only way RISE will make anything close to TDK is if one of the actors dies of a drug overdose prior to release, that way fanboys will see it 25 times in theaters in a pathetic form of "respect".

I always like when people make such grandiose box office predictions, because they almost always end up being completely wrong.

Actually he's right. TDK was very good, but it owes a lot of its success to Ledger's death which immortalized his performance. The movie would have done extremely well if he had lived, but his death took it to another level.

Considering Inception almost made $300 million in the US alone, it's not crazy to suggest The Dark Knight Rising could make $400 million in the US. It won't have any competition (lol spiderman, avengerz)

Nobody's saying that it didn't have some impact, because it obviously did. But TDK didn't get to $1 billion worldwide on that alone. And I think TDK drew in a lot of people who will show up again in 2012 to see the end of the trilogy.

I don't think it makes 1bil without Ledger dying. We'll never know who's right though.

Considering people actually liked TDK, the sequel will do very well assuming it's good too. Like with what happened to the LOTR films

[Great Rumbler]

WETA is amazing. It's a joke that ILM gets any money at all anymore. WETA owns them at every turn.

Oh, so is that why WETA had to bring in ILM to help them do all those awesome battle sequences?

[Great Rumbler]

The only way RISE will make anything close to TDK is if one of the actors dies of a drug overdose prior to release, that way fanboys will see it 25 times in theaters in a pathetic form of "respect".

I always like when people make such grandiose box office predictions, because they almost always end up being completely wrong.

Actually he's right. TDK was very good, but it owes a lot of its success to Ledger's death which immortalized his performance. The movie would have done extremely well if he had lived, but his death took it to another level.

Considering Inception almost made $300 million in the US alone, it's not crazy to suggest The Dark Knight Rising could make $400 million in the US. It won't have any competition (lol spiderman, avengerz)

Nobody's saying that it didn't have some impact, because it obviously did. But TDK didn't get to $1 billion worldwide on that alone. And I think TDK drew in a lot of people who will show up again in 2012 to see the end of the trilogy.

I don't think it makes 1bil without Ledger dying. We'll never know who's right though.

Even being very conservative, I think it's safe to assume that Ledger's death accounted for more than $1.9 million.

[Mupepe]

IIRC that was due to time constraints. 

Am I the only one one that thought the horse things in Avatar made the same noises as the raptors in jurassic park 3??  Like exactly the same.

[Phoenix Dark]

I don't see it grossing $400mil in the US without his death. $320-350 probably would have been the case

[Diunx]

This shit again?

[Great Rumbler]

I don't see it grossing $400mil in the US without his death. $320-350 probably would have been the case

[Cheebs]

Considering Inception almost made $300 million in the US alone, it's not crazy to suggest The Dark Knight Rising could make $400 million in the US. It won't have any competition (lol spiderman, avengerz)

Which is what I see it doing. Avengers and Spider-Man are no threat to it. Ledger got a ton of people to see TDK who wouldn't normally see it and they likely really enjoyed it so they'll be likely to come back to see how the trilogy ends.