Movie News, Reviews, and Discussion Super-Thread

[Mupepe]

It was amazing seeing the backlash after the movie hype died down actually.  In my experience at least, so many people are sick of The Dark Knight.  I think it got way too much exposure and the film had way too many mediocre moments to age well.  But I bet most people will forget about that by 2012.  I forget about it every few months when I watch it again 

[Diunx]

The only way RISE will make anything close to TDK is if one of the actors dies of a drug overdose prior to release, that way fanboys will see it 25 times in theaters in a pathetic form of "respect".

Will you kill yourself when Batman 3 makes more money than Tron?

[cool breeze]

people are spreading rumors now that Tom Hardy would play Harvey Bullock

[Great Rumbler]

people are spreading rumors now that Tom Hardy would play Harvey Bullock

Doesn't really strike me as the Harvey Bullock type.

[Raban]

The only way RISE will make anything close to TDK is if one of the actors dies of a drug overdose prior to release, that way fanboys will see it 25 times in theaters in a pathetic form of "respect".

Will you kill yourself when Batman 3 makes more money than Tron?

That's not only possible, it's likely. Tron is practically guaranteed to bomb horribly in the box office. I can't think of anything in that film with mainstream appeal.

[Dickie Dee]

wasn't the fat guy from begins bullock?

[SantaC]

Christian Bale is such a douchebag and overrated actor. They really cant find anyone else to cast Batman? Two movies is enough for him.

[Great Rumbler]

wasn't the fat guy from begins bullock?

Nah, that was Flass. He first appeared in Batman: Year One as Gordon's partner.

Bullock is a lot more of a grey character, whereas Flass was pretty much just a corrupt cop.

[Diunx]

http://ifanboy.com/content/articles/FIRST_LOOK__Captain_America_Photos_from_Entertainment_Weekly

movie looks hot!

[Great Rumbler]

Isn't Bullock the guy from TAS who was always like "fuck batman" even when he saved him and shit?

Yeah, that's him. Bullock never really liked Batman, although he does eventually develop a grudging respect for him.

[fistfulofmetal]

the WWII get-up looks hot.

[Dickie Dee]

Does HYDRA replace NAZIs or are they just kind of in addition/sideshow to them? Because WWII Cap should be busting some NAZI teeth and perhaps breaking up clandestine occult programs with awesomeness - having it be "HYDRA" instead deflates things like a bad paparazzi picture of that chick, you know the one.

[Fresh Prince]

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Can we make his face into an emoticon? It's got that gay, 'you better not say what I think you're going to say bitch' vibe to it.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Male kissy face 

[Enl]

The Loved Ones- Very fun horror and was much more depraved than the trailer made it out to be. In essence the film is The Texas Chainsaw Massacre's dinner sequence expanded for about an hour with a good dose of dark comedy thrown in. Also had a little bit of The People Under the Stairs in there as well. My only complaint is that they could've edited out one of the subplots as it felt like it had no bearing on the overall plot.

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[Mupepe]

what year is that movie from?  blockbuster doesn't have anything named that and netflix has one from 2009 that doesn't sound like that movie and isn't available to rent.

[Great Rumbler]

what year is that movie from?  blockbuster doesn't have anything named that and netflix has one from 2009 that doesn't sound like that movie and isn't available to rent.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1316536/

[Raban]

The Loved Ones- Very fun horror and was much more depraved than the trailer made it out to be. In essence the film is The Texas Chainsaw Massacre's dinner sequence expanded for about an hour with a good dose of dark comedy thrown in. Also had a little bit of The People Under the Stairs in there as well. My only complaint is that they could've edited out one of the subplots as it felt like it had no bearing on the overall plot.

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Is it just me or do most horror movies seem to publicize really obscure fetishes? I think all my sexual fetishes came from horror films. Most of them seem to be in this film. Will fap.

[WrikaWrek]

Scott Pilgrim

Holy shit, this movie fucking sucks ahaha. I was not expecting it!

[Raban]

I'm about to go on a western movie binge soon and I need some ideas. I figure the entire Man With No Name trilogy is definitely worth checking out (I've seen TGTBTU already). Definitely gonna peep Lonesome Dove. Any film buffs wanna throw a recommendation my way?

[Great Rumbler]

I'm about to go on a western movie binge soon and I need some ideas. I figure the entire Man With No Name trilogy is definitely worth checking out (I've seen TGTBTU already). Definitely gonna peep Lonesome Dove. Any film buffs wanna throw a recommendation my way?

-Magnificent Seven
-Django
-The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
-Silverado
-Once Upon a Time in the West
-Tombstone
-Unforgiven

[Diunx]

I'm about to go on a western movie binge soon and I need some ideas. I figure the entire Man With No Name trilogy is definitely worth checking out (I've seen TGTBTU already). Definitely gonna peep Lonesome Dove. Any film buffs wanna throw a recommendation my way?

Once Upon a Time in the West is the best Leone wester, Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid is also an excellent wester from that era.

The 90s:
Tombstone
Unforgiven
The Quick and the Dead.

[Enl]

what year is that movie from?  blockbuster doesn't have anything named that and netflix has one from 2009 that doesn't sound like that movie and isn't available to rent.

It's this year. It's already out on BluRay in the UK but hasn't been released in the USA yet unfortunately.

[Robo]

In addition to what's been said: Duck You Sucker!/Fistful of Dynamite, Dead Man, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, High Noon, The Proposition, There Will Be Blood, McCabe and Mrs. Miller, The Ox-Bow Incident.

[Enl]

Eastwood's High Plains Drifter is a pretty good tribute to the Man With No Name trilogy.  On the crazier side, the recent Korean film The Good, The Bad, and The Weird is a lot of fun. Also since it hasn't been mentioned yet, Deadwood is epic and one of the greatest modern Westerns made.

[Raban]

Thanks for all the tips. I forgot, I saw Butch Cassidy, excellent film.

[chronovore]

WETA is amazing. It's a joke that ILM gets any money at all anymore. WETA owns them at every turn.

Oh, so is that why WETA had to bring in ILM to help them do all those awesome battle sequences?

Whatevs, GR. All I know is that anything which looks strongly, overtly like CG with iffy lighting and shortcut motion curves, it turns out to be from ILM, and everytime I think "wow, holy shit," it turns out to be from WETA. I reserve the right to trot out anectdoctal evidence particularly when I'm just voicing my opinion.

IIRC that was due to time constraints. 

Am I the only one one that thought the horse things in Avatar made the same noises as the raptors in jurassic park 3??  Like exactly the same.

There were a lot of familiar noises. It wouldn't surprise me if they were both referencing the same source animal, whatever that is.

[Mupepe]

what year is that movie from?  blockbuster doesn't have anything named that and netflix has one from 2009 that doesn't sound like that movie and isn't available to rent.

It's this year. It's already out on BluRay in the UK but hasn't been released in the USA yet unfortunately.

Cool thanks.

The Great Rumbler shot me a link to imdb and it seems that it's the one on netflix but I can only save it in my queue for now.  Sounded interesting enough though so I saved it!

[Great Rumbler]

WETA is amazing. It's a joke that ILM gets any money at all anymore. WETA owns them at every turn.

Oh, so is that why WETA had to bring in ILM to help them do all those awesome battle sequences?

Whatevs, GR. All I know is that anything which looks strongly, overtly like CG with iffy lighting and shortcut motion curves, it turns out to be from ILM, and everytime I think "wow, holy shit," it turns out to be from WETA. I reserve the right to trot out anectdoctal evidence particularly when I'm just voicing my opinion.

WETA did great [or amazing, or whatever] work on Avatar, and District 9 considering what the budget was for that, but I can't think of anything else they've done [outside of LOTR, which had some good parts and some not so good parts in the special effects category] that's really stood out to me as something that another studio couldn't even come close to.

[Cheebs]

How can someone bash ILM yet praise the cgi in Avatar? WETA did all the blue people stuff but a lot of the battle cgi with the ships and explosions and stuff was all ILM. ILM did a ton on Avatar.

Basically it was
WETA = Naviviviviiii motion capture characters
ILM = battle scenes

ILM's stuff was more impressive to me in it anyway.

Weta does amazing character design for pure cgi characters like in lotr, avatar, district 9 but the action stuff ILM did was still damn good.

[Mupepe]

WETA's work in King Kong WETA

I think the most impressive part of Avatar was the Naavi shit.  The fact that I forgot I was watching digital characters sometimes is what amazed me. 

Who did Davy Jones? ILM right?  If so, that's the most impressive thing I've seen them do and it was amazing.

[Great Rumbler]

Never forget.

[bud]

the avatars looked totally real when they had war paint on their faces.

[Robo]

I have a strong distaste for WETA's work, and nearly everything they're involved with leaves me more and more disillusioned with the promises of CGI in film.  Hate their in work King Kong, hate most of their work in the LOTR series (save for the first, where it's relatively minimal), hate their work in I Robot, Fantastic Four 2, Narnia, and so on.

Although now that I spell it out like that, it could just be that they so often work on such terrible, terrible films.

Avatar is quite a technical accomplishment for them, but the design of the Navi is fucking repugnant, spoiling the entire effort for me.

[Mupepe]

yeah, they work on a lot of shitty films.  but I thought the CGI of King Kong (not in because the dinosaurs and shit were fucking terrible) was fucking amazing.  I'm still of the belief that the CGI in LOTR has aged terribly.  Ugh.  District 9 looks amazing IMO.  The best thing they do is practical effects IMO.  sets, weapons, props, costumes.  They've always been amazing at that IMO.

[Robo]

Oh, I'm talking exclusively about their CGI.  Their animation is mostly what I have a problem with -- the figures tend to look excellent from a technical perspective, but the animation is often exaggerated and overdone.  They seem to have a lot of difficulty recreating realism when it's most called for.

[Mupepe]

I hate that they always look like gumby when in action.  like legolas when he's on... ANYTHING.  ugh.  the elephant and scenes specifically.

[Robo]

That's exactly what I'm talking about.  I saw a lot of that in Avatar too and did not care for it.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Katie Holmes wasn't in TDK, so you didn't get what I was saying.

Uh...no, I did get what you were saying. I was asking if you thought Katie Holmes acting was better than anything in TDK.

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It's not, by the way. Katie Holmes acting was terrible.

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Yet somehow, Maggie Gyllenhaal managed to be worse.

[Great Rumbler]

Katie Holmes wasn't in TDK, so you didn't get what I was saying.

Uh...no, I did get what you were saying. I was asking if you thought Katie Holmes acting was better than anything in TDK.

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It's not, by the way. Katie Holmes acting was terrible.

[close]

Yet somehow, Maggie Gyllenhaal managed to be worse.

She wasn't good, at all, but I'd still take her performance over Katie Holmes.

[Raban]

Katie Holmes wasn't in TDK, so you didn't get what I was saying.

Uh...no, I did get what you were saying. I was asking if you thought Katie Holmes acting was better than anything in TDK.

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It's not, by the way. Katie Holmes acting was terrible.

[close]

Yet somehow, Maggie Gyllenhaal managed to be worse.

She wasn't good, at all, but I'd still take her performance over Katie Holmes.

I wouldn't

[Diunx]

Did you guys read the Deadpool script? this movie could be an action/comedy classic is another studio were handle it.

The opening credits are

[Diunx]

How can someone bash ILM yet praise the cgi in Avatar? WETA did all the blue people stuff but a lot of the battle cgi with the ships and explosions and stuff was all ILM. ILM did a ton on Avatar.

Basically it was
WETA = Naviviviviiii motion capture characters
ILM = battle scenes

ILM's stuff was more impressive to me in it anyway.

Weta does amazing character design for pure cgi characters like in lotr, avatar, district 9 but the action stuff ILM did was still damn good.

ILM helped with the battle scenes, weta did most of the work.

[chronovore]

How can someone bash ILM yet praise the cgi in Avatar? WETA did all the blue people stuff but a lot of the battle cgi with the ships and explosions and stuff was all ILM. ILM did a ton on Avatar.

Basically it was
WETA = Naviviviviiii motion capture characters
ILM = battle scenes

ILM's stuff was more impressive to me in it anyway.

Weta does amazing character design for pure cgi characters like in lotr, avatar, district 9 but the action stuff ILM did was still damn good.

This conversation started because I didn't know that ILM did anything on Avatar, and GR stated that they had done a lot of work. The subsequent discussion has revealed that it was due to time constraints, and the stuff ILM did in the movie was mainly the big battle sequences.

My problem with ILM in general is that, anymore, they are more of a marketing point to put in large print the lobby poster than an innovative bunch of geniuses. They are not /bad/ they are just badly overrated.

[Bebpo]

The Loved Ones- Very fun horror and was much more depraved than the trailer made it out to be. In essence the film is The Texas Chainsaw Massacre's dinner sequence expanded for about an hour with a good dose of dark comedy thrown in. Also had a little bit of The People Under the Stairs in there as well. My only complaint is that they could've edited out one of the subplots as it felt like it had no bearing on the overall plot.

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Watched this for my yearly Halloween horror movie.  Overall it was good and quite enjoyable.  I felt like the movie had good tension and comedy and was nicely shot, but that at around 3/4ths through when

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the main guy escapes and kills the dad and kills the people underneath, the movie kind of loses all sense of tension and just becomes totally non-threatening lolz ridiculous and is therefore less entertaining than the first 3/4ths.

[close]

If by subplot you're talking about the other kid whose going to prom, I thought it was a great subplot because A) it juxtaposes a more realistic version of a "fucked up prom night" with the fantastical horror version that's going on with the other guy and B) it provides a light comedy element that balances the dark elements and keeps the film "fun" rather than "torture porn."

[Mupepe]

United 93
Hadn't seen this in a long while (since it came out).  While it's obviously an emotionally manipulative film, I love how this movie doesn't try to sidestep it.  It actually makes it enjoyable.  The terrorists are clear bad guys, there are no main characters (hell, there are barely any names mentioned) and there is no bullshit story to get you "more emotionally involved".  It's bad guys on a plane with normal people.  As soon as the movie starts, the tension starts.  I always thought that was great.  Think what you will about the subject matter, but I always thought this movie handled it pretty well.


Letters to Juliet
This shit was terrible.  So very terrible.  It wasn't even a fun romantic comedy.  Just so bad.  Especially when the characters start recreating a scene from Romeo and Juliet and it wasn't ironic. :'(

[Cheebs]

First shots of the Steven Spielberg directed TinTin are out. I uh...am unsure what to think. Despite stuff like Indiana Jones 2 & 4, Hook, & The Lost World I still give the guy the benefit of the doubt when he directs a movie. I'll check it out.

[Diunx]

Looking good, is it 3d?

[ManaByte]

Yes 3D and likely the only Spielberg movie to be ever shot digitally.

[Diunx]

Cool with watch it in the cinema then.

[Cheebs]

I wonder what will happen if it makes enough money to warrant a sequel. Because the original plan was Spielberg would direct the first film, Jackson would direct the second, and they would co-direct the third. Jackson is now going to be pretty busy for the next 4 years or so. I guess Spielberg will just direct the sequels himself now?

[Phoenix Dark]

meh

[Phoenix Dark]

I hate the term "emotionally manipulative." Sounds like a pretentious way of saying you're ashamed to have emotions. The film is about people on a plane trying to stop a terrorist attack, knowing they're going to die. How else is it going to be, given what happened in real life? 

[Mupepe]

You're the one taking offense to the term.  I don't think there's anything wrong with liking emotionally manipulative films, but that's what they are.  There's a difference between having an emotional scene and pulling obvious strings to evoke (nearly) universal human emotion.  They do it in a way that's not creative or unique and provides no real insight into the content.  We'll take something else for example.  Grey's Anatomy.  That show is emotionally manipulative.  Its entire purpose to play off your emotions of death that EVERYONE has.  The scenes and writing provide no insight into actually dealing with grief and loss.  It's a series of photo set to somber audio of people dying.  That's emotionally manipulative.

Edit: And for comparison sake, Six Feet Under is a show that actually discusses and focuses on grief and loss instead of showing me sad images to tell me "death=bad".

[Phoenix Dark]

i cry therefore i am

Forrest Gump
I Am Sam

[Mupepe]

I love those movies

[Great Rumbler]

I get what Mups is saying though. There's no problem with pulling at peoples heart strings, but a lot of times, its overly done and its just ridiculous. I go by the way of If I notice its what you're trying to do, you're doing it wrong.

Saving Private Ryan.

[Mupepe]

The Pacific was pretty bad about it.  But i only got like 4 episodes in (need to buy the blu rays).  I was scared Band of Brothers would be the same but it was much better at getting the emotion across without making you so depressed that you don't really want to keep watching.  Band of Brothers did exactly like its name sounds.  It set up emotional investments in the characters and their relationships that kept me watching.  Emotional investment in the subject matter and not actually the movie will only keep you watching while it's convenient.  I missed one episode of The Pacific and I didn't go back to watching the next week.  I just didn't care.

[Great Rumbler]

As an example of doing it right or wrong?

Saving Private Ryan is KIND of an example, but I really only had a problem with The Pacific.

Not the whole movie, but there is at least one scene that springs instantly to mind.

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When Upham sees one of the other American soldiers about to be stabbed by a German soldier and he just wusses out. That whole scene is pretty much straight up emotional manipulation.

[close]

[Raban]

Pretty much every James Cameron movie has emotional manipulation.