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« Reply #9300 on: January 03, 2011, 11:51:57 AM »
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« Reply #9301 on: January 03, 2011, 12:24:41 PM »
I'm glad I'm not the only one who was bored by exit through the gift shop.

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« Reply #9302 on: January 03, 2011, 12:30:33 PM »
American Graffiti
Not much to say about a movie that's been discussed to death, but it was extremely entertaining and extremely simple.  Definitely my type of movie.  My favorite things about it were how funny and charming the characters were.  It's very rare that I even find the dbags in movies likeable.

Citizen Kane
Again, not much to say about such a discussed movie.  Either way, amazingly tight and entertaining and most important, pretty timeless.  The newsreel at the beginning on his life is still damn true about figures in the American public.  I loved it.

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« Reply #9303 on: January 03, 2011, 12:35:26 PM »
It's weird to think that Lucas could make something as charming as American Graffiti and as utterly uncharming as those last star wars movies.

But yeah, both movies are great (obviously I know)


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« Reply #9304 on: January 03, 2011, 12:39:09 PM »
that's exactly what I thought.  I was expecting overrated crap because well, I pretty much hate Star Wars.  Even the original trilogy annoys me when they're not actually light sabering the fuck outta each other.  But the dude really did have talent.  WTF?  Drop the Star Wars shit, Lucas.  Go back to what you're good at.

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« Reply #9305 on: January 03, 2011, 12:45:44 PM »
that's exactly what I thought.  I was expecting overrated crap because well, I pretty much hate Star Wars.  Even the original trilogy annoys me when they're not actually light sabering the fuck outta each other.  But the dude really did have talent.  WTF?  Drop the Star Wars shit, Lucas.  Go back to what you're good at.

I think that was a long time ago and he was a very young man who had young man's ambitions and desires. That movie was basically a love letter to his childhood in the same way that Star Wars is a throwback film at its core despite the space setting.

He's not that guy anymore. It probably happens to everybody as they get older. He became something else. But it would have been interesting if he had been able to retain more of who he once was.




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« Reply #9306 on: January 03, 2011, 01:14:32 PM »
Lucas was a strong editor, and he wasn't a bad writer at one point; plus didn't he write Apocalypse Now? The success of Star Wars made him lazy and he seems content to stack dollars.
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« Reply #9307 on: January 03, 2011, 01:21:15 PM »
George Lucas eventually became the person he appeared to loathe in earlier interviews. It's a shame. The man had lots of talent.

The THX 1138 version that was filmed exclusively in a garage in LA in particular is pretty damn good considering.
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« Reply #9308 on: January 03, 2011, 01:23:02 PM »
Lucas was a strong editor, and he wasn't a bad writer at one point; plus didn't he write Apocalypse Now? The success of Star Wars made him lazy and he seems content to stack dollars.

Then explain Indiana Jones?

It seems to me that Lucas has always been questionable in regards to writing (originally he wanted Luke to be a non-human) but he had someone there to keep him in check.

The man has talent but is at his best in a controlled environment.
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« Reply #9309 on: January 03, 2011, 01:35:21 PM »
I give Lucas a lot of credit. Even for the original trilogy even though he only directed the first. I have no doubt he was driving the vision for that stuff. Yes he had checks and balances and such but that is the way things should be in the movie making business.

Up until that point he had done great shit. Even the misses like THX 1138 are interesting. And really that is a large part of his career which can't be taken away from him.

It's really after the original trilogy that things came off the hinges. He started doing a lot of money grubbing things with the original. And then he sort of overly fell in love with technology as the goal in making a movie rather than the technology serving as something to help a film. He then made three really bad star wars films which he deserves a lot of blame for in the same way that he deserves a lot of credit for the first three. That was dissappointing. Because it was so obvious those movies were wrong and bad and because he had some much power.

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« Reply #9310 on: January 03, 2011, 01:38:34 PM »
Lucas was a strong editor, and he wasn't a bad writer at one point; plus didn't he write Apocalypse Now? The success of Star Wars made him lazy and he seems content to stack dollars.

Then explain Indiana Jones?

It seems to me that Lucas has always been questionable in regards to writing (originally he wanted Luke to be a non-human) but he had someone there to keep him in check.

The man has talent but is at his best in a controlled environment.

Lucas and Spielberg grounded each other during the creation of Raiders. Temple was a disaster in part due to all the drama in Lucas' personal life boiling into the film. Crusade is amazing, and once again a collaborative effort.

Lucas was usually tempered by someone else, sure. I'm just pointing out at one point he was good at the technical stuff. He no longer is interested in collaborating with people though, and is pretty fucking arrogant now.
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« Reply #9311 on: January 03, 2011, 01:41:18 PM »
Didn't he and Spielberg work together on the Indiana Jones? God that movie was so...unremarkable.
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« Reply #9312 on: January 03, 2011, 01:59:30 PM »
plus didn't he write Apocalypse Now?

He was set to direct at one point, but pulled out to do Star Wars.

I often wonder how much of the original trilogy was Lucas and how much was Lucas Studios.

I'd say the first movie was pretty much all George Lucas. He stepped back a bit with Emprie Strikes Back [hiring a director and a writer]. Lucas went back to a more direct role with Return of the Jedi [despite having a director and a several writers collaborating with him].
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« Reply #9313 on: January 03, 2011, 02:10:25 PM »
that's exactly what I thought.  I was expecting overrated crap because well, I pretty much hate Star Wars.  Even the original trilogy annoys me when they're not actually light sabering the fuck outta each other.  But the dude really did have talent.  WTF?  Drop the Star Wars shit, Lucas.  Go back to what you're good at.

I think that was a long time ago and he was a very young man who had young man's ambitions and desires. That movie was basically a love letter to his childhood in the same way that Star Wars is a throwback film at its core despite the space setting.

He's not that guy anymore. It probably happens to everybody as they get older. He became something else. But it would have been interesting if he had been able to retain more of who he once was.


I've actually been watching a documentary on star wars (don't judge me) and Lucas looks completely miserable while filming it.  There are parts where the actors would joke around hoping to cheer him up, but he just looked dead beat from the work.  All the problems, financial issues, and whatnot probably took a huge toll on him and I can almost understand if that killed his spirit for doing any real directing.  Empire Strikes Back and RotJ were done by other directors and when Lucas returned to direct, he lost whatever he had.  Watching the behind the scenes footage of revenge of the sith from that review, he is just sitting there watching two actors talk in front of a blue screen.  To be fair, I think there was some effort put into Phantom Menace despite how it turned out.  It wasn't good, but I wouldn't be surprised if the poor reception made ep 2/3 even worse because whatever drive he may have built up over those years was squashed.  Episodes 2 and 3 just seemed rushed, and by comparison, episode 1 had far fewer Star Wars 4-6 references.

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« Reply #9314 on: January 03, 2011, 02:19:01 PM »
that's exactly what I thought.  I was expecting overrated crap because well, I pretty much hate Star Wars.  Even the original trilogy annoys me when they're not actually light sabering the fuck outta each other.  But the dude really did have talent.  WTF?  Drop the Star Wars shit, Lucas.  Go back to what you're good at.

I think that was a long time ago and he was a very young man who had young man's ambitions and desires. That movie was basically a love letter to his childhood in the same way that Star Wars is a throwback film at its core despite the space setting.

He's not that guy anymore. It probably happens to everybody as they get older. He became something else. But it would have been interesting if he had been able to retain more of who he once was.


I've actually been watching a documentary on star wars (don't judge me) and Lucas looks completely miserable while filming it.  There are parts where the actors would joke around hoping to cheer him up, but he just looked dead beat from the work.  All the problems, financial issues, and whatnot probably took a huge toll on him and I can almost understand if that killed his spirit for doing any real directing.  Empire Strikes Back and RotJ were done by other directors and when Lucas returned to direct, he lost whatever he had.  Watching the behind the scenes footage of revenge of the sith from that review, he is just sitting there watching two actors talk in front of a blue screen.  To be fair, I think there was some effort put into Phantom Menace despite how it turned out.  It wasn't good, but I wouldn't be surprised if the poor reception made ep 2/3 even worse because whatever drive he may have built up over those years was squashed.  Episodes 2 and 3 just seemed rushed, and by comparison, episode 1 had far fewer Star Wars 4-6 references.


Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse and 
A LEGACY OF FILMMAKERS: The Early Years of American Zoetrope

are both great documentaries with an earlier more passionate and devout version of Lucas. Really a sharp guy. And both make me a bit sad.

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« Reply #9315 on: January 03, 2011, 02:25:33 PM »
I really like the guy and can't stand him at the same time.
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« Reply #9316 on: January 03, 2011, 02:32:03 PM »
I really like the guy and can't stand him at the same time.

The proper of view of someone is always the more balanced view. The he's always been a hack and he ruined my childhood view grudge that certain nerds carry is always annoying to me. He is/was an incredbibly influential figure in film history. The laziest most non-intellectual thing to do is just go off on how much he sucks without taking a complete overview of the man and his work.

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« Reply #9317 on: January 03, 2011, 02:34:26 PM »
Agreed. But at the same time I can see where they're coming from. I respect him, but at the same time I've lost respect for what he's done to his own legacy. It's almost sad and makes no sense.
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« Reply #9318 on: January 03, 2011, 02:38:15 PM »
Agreed. But at the same time I can see where they're coming from. I respect him, but at the same time I've lost respect for what he's done to his own legacy. It's almost sad and makes no sense.

On a personal level I try to separate out the great work from the bad work of an artist and evaulate them as separate things. It's possible for the same person to do amazing work and also shit work.

Orson Welles certainly did. Richard Pryor certainly did. Lots of great people certainly did. It's very rare that somebody is completely consistent in their artistic work.

That's not to say that his poor work can't be bashed. It should. I just get wary whenever a certain type of nerd starts expressing his nerd rage overly about Lucas because it can sometimes descend into weirdness.
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« Reply #9319 on: January 03, 2011, 02:43:05 PM »
Ep1 had Jar Jar Binks...

Each film had a horrible script and poor acting. The films weren't "directed" as much as they were simply filmed; the actors recited lines, the effects were generated, etc. Phantom Menace is certainly better than the Clones trainwreck, but it's still horrible as is the third film.

The new trilogy is sort of like an overproduced pop song: lots of bells and whistles to distract you from realizing the singer can't sing.
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« Reply #9320 on: January 03, 2011, 02:51:46 PM »
I won't overly get into why those three movies are bad. Plinkett does it far better and longer than anyone in this thread could. Suffice it to say they are bad on nearly every level which is why its so odd. Lucas is more than talented enough to have seen that so he either deluded himself, or just didn't care. Either way its sad.

I'm from a rare breed that is old enough to have seen the original trilogy but didn't. So I never had any real affinity for the series. I was a Star Trek kid growing up. Kirk was my hero. Not Han Solo or Luke Skywalker. I didn't see them until the mid 90's when they get re-leased into theaters in those special editions and I thought they were just great awesome films. So my Star Wars "love" came relatively late into the game and isn't based around childhood nostalgia.
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« Reply #9321 on: January 03, 2011, 03:02:54 PM »
Ep1 had Jar Jar Binks...

Each film had a horrible script and poor acting. The films weren't "directed" as much as they were simply filmed; the actors recited lines, the effects were generated, etc. Phantom Menace is certainly better than the Clones trainwreck, but it's still horrible as is the third film.

The new trilogy is sort of like an overproduced pop song: lots of bells and whistles to distract you from realizing the singer can't sing.

I don't defend Phantom Menace, but you can tell that it was at least an attempt.  Episode 2 was just "fuck it, bring in boba fett to sell toys."

Even if Phantom Menace was a mess, a lot of the bigger problems came from 2 and 3.  From my completely uneducated point of view, when it was apparent that Lucas sucked, they should have had new talent come on to write and direct the next two.  Instead it seemed like everyone gave up and Lucas continued to make more money on merchandise and get it all over with.

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« Reply #9322 on: January 03, 2011, 03:13:11 PM »
The films were successful but I wonder whether Lucas pulled the trigger too early. He was involved with Avatar for years and saw what Cameron was trying to do. I kinda wonder if it would have made more sense to keep the Star Wars films in development longer, then start working on them now in a post-Avatar film world. A 3D Star Wars would have been an epic blockbuster, and maybe the films would have been better (doubtful).

I honestly can't say Phantom Menace felt like Lucas trying. It's so poorly developed character wise and on every level. As that one review argued, it really has no credible protagonist for the audience to follow. Anakin is too young, Obi Wan is an afterthought, and That Other Jedi is completely forgettable. It introduces a villain with so much potential, but then wastes him - just as they wasted Boba Fett in the original trilogy.
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« Reply #9323 on: January 03, 2011, 05:49:40 PM »
Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland.

We just got a bunch of trial movie channels and I eventually saw the whole thing over a 3 or 4 airings. It didn't seem as wretched as I would've thought. Depp's Hatter/Burton-eccentric character#5165156616 wasn't as bad as I would've thought (he was awful as Wonka, even though I liked parts of that movie).

Dunno, I saw less out-of-gas Burton and more a competent telling of the Alice story (or sequel to it, whatever).
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« Reply #9324 on: January 03, 2011, 10:33:47 PM »
Freejack - Objectively, the worst movie I have ever seen.  I enjoyed it as a terrible movie for awhile: I had a good hearty laugh when it revealed what year it was supposed to be, the action is ridiculous, the writing is awful, and nearly everything Mick Jagger says is hysterical.  Much is made of the nation being in a state of stark economic disarray, yet at the end, when SPOILER ALER-oh who gives a shit- Mr. Estevez becomes the most powerful man on the planet, all he wants to do is drive his new fucking truck.  I'm not sure if it's brilliant or fucking dumb as fucking fuck.  Either way, it's callous and entirely rage-inducing.

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The only thing missing from this clip are big neon letters: "EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE"
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« Reply #9325 on: January 03, 2011, 10:56:34 PM »
Is it worse than Johnny Mnemonic?

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« Reply #9326 on: January 03, 2011, 11:13:44 PM »
Yes, it's MUCH worse than what I remember of Johnny Mnemonic, but since that's on Netflix streaming and I have a lot of liquor left, I am down for a more developed comparison of the two.
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« Reply #9327 on: January 03, 2011, 11:15:58 PM »
Unfortunately Hackers isn't on instant streaming, otherwise you really could have gone all out!
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« Reply #9328 on: January 03, 2011, 11:56:33 PM »
Watched the other guys tonight. Did not like that and I'm a pretty big Ferrell fan.

There was one humorous scene though.


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« Reply #9329 on: January 04, 2011, 12:09:56 AM »
Why would anyone need to take a "balanced" view of George Lucas?  He's made three films in the last two decades and they've all been fuckin atrocious.

Yeah, nerds overreact to his shenanigans with the original trilogy*.  But while that stuff doesn't make him history's greatest monster, all the banging on about how he can finally "fulfill his vision as a filmmaker" takes away his one plausible excuse for sucking (ie giving the fans what they want) and make the prequels into a much harsher indictment of his talent.


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« Reply #9330 on: January 04, 2011, 01:11:14 AM »
As I said I think taking a balanced view of anybody is important. Any by balanced I mean noting what goes in the good column and the crap column. Which doesn't mean you can't bash his shitty work or him. There is a lot worthy to bash of Lucas. I was more referencing a lot of bad criticism I see directed at him by internet tards who never balance anything and think Lucas is only those three shitty star wars movies and omg he ruined my childhood type blathering. It wasn't aimed at anyone necessarily here. But I see that sort of argumentation all the time concerning Lucas and that was the point I was making since we were talking about Lucas.
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« Reply #9331 on: January 04, 2011, 11:08:24 AM »
Johnny Mnemonic is fucking awesome.  It should be recognized for what it is: a 90s action camp masterpiece.  Directed by Roger Longo - whose only other director credits are a few music videos, a short film called Arena Brains, which sounds like something Flame of Callandor would pull his pud to, and a Tales from the Crypt episode - this thing is so heavily laced with camp that I find it difficult to believe it was anything but intentional, what with the indiscreet anime influence, the dated-even-for-then tech jargon (at one point Keanu gets "online" just to do some elaborate phone phreaking which he accomplishes by physically shaking and manipulating its graphical representation), and the bizarre, over-the-top gesturing and hammy acting on the part of the entire cast, to say nothing of the actual plot, which itself doesn't leave much room for contemplation.  Keanu tries so hard it would make me feel bad for the guy if it wasn't so damn entertaining; more than can be said for Christian Bale.

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Dolph Lundgren's preacher character is simultaneously the best and worst thing about the movie.  He is so awful that he single-handedly casts away any hope of anyone having ever taken this movie seriously, but that same awfulness provides for so many highlights that it's difficult to imagine the film without him.  And he gets all the best lines.

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I give it five Omikron discs out of five.
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« Reply #9332 on: January 04, 2011, 11:14:28 AM »
Since it's now 2011, let's do a top ten movies of 2010 list:

1. The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya
2. Tron: Legacy
3. Toy Story 3
4. Inception
5. Tangled
6. The Expendables
7. How to Train Your Dragon
8. Shutter Island
9. Batman: Under the Red Hood
10. Machete

Still want to see Black Swan, True Grit, and The Social Network.
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« Reply #9333 on: January 04, 2011, 11:18:28 AM »
Chinatown
Great movie.  It kept me entertained and guessing the entire time.  In most movies where there's something to be solved, I'd rather just let it play out because I'm never interested enough to spend thought cycles trying to figure it out but I actually kept trying to think where it could be going.  If you were just to see the end reveal, the movie would seem ridiculous (My daughter *slap* my sister *slap* my daughter, my sister *slap*) but I was completely into it and when
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it actually got some emotion out of me which is hard with most movies.  I was really into it.

I Love You, Man
Eh, it was alright.  It has some really funny parts but it really seemed like it was getting old and it was leftovers from an Apatow gang comedy.  That whole group had already started to wear on me anyways.  And Paul Rudd (I think that's his name) was too much of a bitch in the movie for me to really care.

Primal Fear
hadn't seen this in years.  Such an awesome movie even though after the "twist" you can see the second ending "twist" coming a mile away, but I couldn't when I was 14 so nostalgia still says it's awesome and Edward Norton is great in it.

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« Reply #9334 on: January 04, 2011, 12:42:14 PM »
Johnny Mnemonic

Lundgren is in this? will watch.
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« Reply #9335 on: January 04, 2011, 01:11:07 PM »
Gonna watch Johnny Mnemonic.
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« Reply #9336 on: January 04, 2011, 11:03:46 PM »
Watched the invention of lying this evening which was much better than I thought it was going to be. I had heard a lot of negative about it and in comparison to Ghost Town which I heard really good things about it was the more interesting movie. Although its a formula romantic comedy and the plot structure isn't so great its a really fun and interesting movie. It totally depends on how much you buy into the premise I guess.


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« Reply #9337 on: January 05, 2011, 12:04:48 AM »
I heard they're going talk about the Star Wars Blu-rays on Thursday...

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« Reply #9338 on: January 05, 2011, 12:13:40 AM »
Apparently it won't be as extensive as the Blade Runner or Aliens sets... but that shouldn't surprise anyone knowing Lucas.
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« Reply #9339 on: January 05, 2011, 04:29:26 AM »
Watched Year One on Netflix tonight.  Absolute garbage.  Not even the awesome sexiness that is Olivia Wilde could save that movie.
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« Reply #9340 on: January 05, 2011, 11:45:22 AM »
Count me in with the crowd that hated The Invention of Lying

Neat premise, terrible, sloppy, boring execution.

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« Reply #9341 on: January 06, 2011, 12:51:50 AM »
Watched Shutter Island this evening.


You know seeing Scorsese still making really good movies when so many of the other greats struggle to do so later in life is like life affirming some how.

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« Reply #9342 on: January 06, 2011, 01:01:01 AM »
I watched The Killer Inside Me.  The killer actually gets inside several people many many times, so I'm not sure whose perspective the title is from.  Sucked major asshole.  Very disappointing.  I've been told the book is very good, so even moreso for that.
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« Reply #9343 on: January 06, 2011, 01:02:49 AM »
Scorsese understands the movies he's making, which is why I think he's still making good movies.

Maybe.

I don't know but the obvious comparison for me is Spielberg and it seems like Spielberg while undeniably great seems to struggle to make a really good film at this point. Stuff like War of Worlds, & Minority Report, & The Crystal Skull all have a nice sheen about them and parts of them are good but overall they are all kind of disappointing. Like seeing a director who can be great just sort of going through the motions. In all fairness and truth though I haven't seen Munich or AI yet so maybe those are great or something.

I just love that scorsese still seems to "go for it" whatever that means. He's not half assing it. Even if a movie of his is flawed in some way its not because he didn't fucking go for it. I just love that attitude.


Edit: Also Ben Kingsley is like the most interesting actor in the world to me. Like acting is effortless for him but the man just doesn't care what he appears in. He'll be in something great and then something shit. And its like it doesn't bother him either way.

I don't know if that's sad and dispiriting or just incredibly realistic and honest about how the world works. Very interesting man who's led an interesting life. I kinda want to see a story of his life movie made one day.
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« Reply #9344 on: January 06, 2011, 01:48:03 AM »
Watched a few anime movies from 2010 recently:

The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya

It's good, really good. One of the best works of anime I've seen in...ages. Well-written, well-animated, well-acted, and the characters are the best they've ever been. This is coming from someone who enjoyed the first season of the TV show, I didn't think it was amazing and I'm certainly not obsessed with it, but I did enjoy it. The movie is far and away better. In every way.

Trigun: Badlands Rumble

On the one hand, I'm overjoyed that there's an actual new Trigun animation out there. On the other, I can't help but a feel a bit disappointed by the results. There's a reason for this and the biggest reason is that it feels like a fanservice movie [as in made specifically for fans of Trigun], but somehow misses out on a lot of the things that it could have added.

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Vash never uses or mentions his arm-gun [or his super-laser arm-gun], there's none of the classic music except for one instance at the climax, nothing is said of Vash's ability to survive numerous injuries, his ability to communicate with the Plants totally absent, and there's no mention of Knives or Legator or Vash's backstory.
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But, at the same time, the story is clearly designed for Trigun fans because it brings back Wolfwood and retreads ideas from the series [such as Vash's love-and-peace philosophy and some of the problems it creates]. It feels like they took episode 6 of the series and stretched it out to feature length. The movie doesn't develop any of the old characters further than the series did and the new characters are predictable in their roles. Having said that, the movie is still pretty good and really fun to watch. It's a Trigun movie, for God's sake! Looking past the mild disappointment at some aspects, there's really no reason not to watch this.

Loups=Garous

Basically this is Ghost in the Shell Kids [advanced technology, intrigue, political corruption, hacking, action, but with kids], which kind of makes since as it was directed by one of the screenwriters on GITS: SAC. It's a bit animu, but tells an interesting story in an intelligent way for the most part. Animation is decent, but not really exceptional barring a couple of scattered action scenes. The biggest downside is that the villain of the whole thing is so easily spotted from within the first ten minutes. Pretty good, not great.
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« Reply #9345 on: January 06, 2011, 02:19:37 AM »
Toy Story 2

This was the first time I've seen this. I missed it when it hit theaters. Honestly, I felt it was disappointing. What was ultimately a great story on children and how they treat their toys and how toys live with the very idea of being a toy became Generic Kiddy Adventures Pap With Toys part 2. Frankly, I don't understand the love. It was okay. The original, which I also rented from netflix along with Toy Story 2 and 3 -- something I haven't seen since 1998 or so -- is still a masterpiece. This however, was completely forgettable aside from a few moments where it seemed like it was trying to be something more than a random scenes strewn together (the song about how Emily completely forgot about her favorite toy and later donated it). Stories like that are relatable, whatever the heck Toy Story 2 is isn't.

Robin Hood

This movie was totally different from what I expected it to be and yet I thoroughly enjoyed it. I would love a sequel that tells the story of Robin Hood proper.
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« Reply #9346 on: January 06, 2011, 03:26:16 AM »
Scorsese is still interested in challenging himself and trying to make good movies. I'm not convinced Spielberg is interested in much else but making money and winning awards. No serious director would have gave Indy 4 the thumbs up

edit: admittedly Munich is amazing
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« Reply #9347 on: January 06, 2011, 04:19:14 AM »
Toy Story 3 holy shit, that ending. Much better than 2 but still not on par with 1 but it doesnt have to be. Loved every moment!
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« Reply #9348 on: January 06, 2011, 05:33:17 AM »
I dunno about "challenging himself".  Gangs of New York and The Departed (decade-spanning crime movies dealing with immigrants and Catholic ethnics in urban America) seem to be as much cases of a director sticking to his wheelhouse as War of the Worlds is for Spielberg.  Which isn't necessarily a bad thing.  Just sayin'.

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« Reply #9349 on: January 06, 2011, 06:42:25 AM »
The problem with both of them isn't that they are making bad movies (apart from Indy 4), it's just they seem to be making inessential movies. It happens when you're prolific. Perhaps if they emerged from seclusion once a decade to make a movie we'd all have slobbered more over Munich and Shutter Island.

Also, I caught A Serious Man on a movie channel tonight - it seems weird how that movie seems to have kinda fallen into a memory hole. It's really one of the best movies of the decade, and I seem to remember a lot of people also thinking so when it came out last year but now *poof* it's like it never existed, even as a Coen Bros. movie.
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« Reply #9350 on: January 06, 2011, 12:14:31 PM »
Robin Hood

This movie was totally different from what I expected it to be and yet I thoroughly enjoyed it. I would love a sequel that tells the story of Robin Hood proper.

I liked the way they set this one up, and a sequel would be awesome.  At least, when going into this movie, it was easy to figure out that this was the Robin Hood story at a different time in the character's life then what we were used to seeing.  If they would have done that with, say...  Alice in Wonderland, the movie would have been much more enjoyable.

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I rewatched Big Trouble on Netflix yesterday.  I forgot how decent the story was and how jam-packed the cast was with stars.  It was like Snatch meets Ocean's 11.
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« Reply #9351 on: January 06, 2011, 01:15:20 PM »
Robin Hood

This movie was totally different from what I expected it to be and yet I thoroughly enjoyed it. I would love a sequel that tells the story of Robin Hood proper.

I really wanted to like this movie, but just couldn't. It's too serious and too meaningless and didn't have an adventurous spirit to fall back on.

I watch Prince of Thieves a few months later and enjoyed that a lot more, except for Kevin Costner's laughable acting.
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« Reply #9352 on: January 06, 2011, 01:21:29 PM »
Besides the awesome use of ted nugent's stranglehold, I hate that movie.  don't get me wrong, it's a good movie to watch when you wanna laugh, but it's just so terrible on every level.  especially the end.

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« Reply #9353 on: January 06, 2011, 04:15:15 PM »
True Grit - I liked it, go see it.
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« Reply #9354 on: January 07, 2011, 10:24:59 PM »
Orphan

Awful, awful ending.

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« Reply #9355 on: January 08, 2011, 06:01:56 AM »
Yes, it's MUCH worse than what I remember of Johnny Mnemonic, but since that's on Netflix streaming and I have a lot of liquor left, I am down for a more developed comparison of the two.

Freejack and Johnny Mnemonic are both masterpieces  ???

In all honesty I think both films are fantastic.

I just watched Hot Shots!, not bad, some incredible visual gags.

Trying to figure out what to watch next... Homeward Bound, maybe? I'm trying to think of a family film I havent seen a trillion times already. I'll probably just end up rewatching Blank Check  :-\
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« Reply #9356 on: January 08, 2011, 09:39:22 AM »
Yes, it's MUCH worse than what I remember of Johnny Mnemonic, but since that's on Netflix streaming and I have a lot of liquor left, I am down for a more developed comparison of the two.

Freejack and Johnny Mnemonic are both masterpieces  ???

In all honesty I think both films are fantastic.

Yeah, well, I think Metalstorm: The Destruction of Jared-Syn and Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone are fantastic too, but that doesn't mean they're good movies!
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« Reply #9357 on: January 08, 2011, 04:53:45 PM »
watched Home Alone 4, was soooooo fucking intense. There was this friggn knockout actress in it though...

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« Reply #9358 on: January 08, 2011, 04:59:14 PM »
Timecrimes
wtf man?  Why the fuck didn't he just fucking stay in the room like he was supposed to and stop doing obnoxiously stupid shit?  It's like every choice he made was dumber than the last.  I didn't care for it.  Some of the scenes were intense and neat, but overall the character was too stupid for me to care about.

Robocop
Hadn't seen this since I was a kid and I saw it on tbs or something all censored.  So I watched the blu ray last night and fuck it's an amazing movie.  If people want to look at what action movies are missing today, look at Robocop.  Decently intelligent self aware humor, an actual story and plot and fun action.

Thin Red Line
It feels like the war movie Oliver Stone wishes he could make.  I'm usually a hater of monologues but they're (mostly) so well written that it's awesome.  A bit longwinded in parts, but overall super satisfying.

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« Reply #9359 on: January 08, 2011, 09:53:09 PM »
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