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Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #25320 on:** August 02, 2016, 08:15:54 PM »

Let us remember the GOAT teaser.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #25321 on:** August 02, 2016, 08:45:48 PM »

No if your talking about amazing teasers to incredibly disappointing movies, nothing beats this:

Tasty · « **Reply #25322 on:** August 02, 2016, 10:31:42 PM »

Nah, Superman Returns teaser is the king. I love Prometheus' trailer but man, that Brando voice and that music

chronovore · « **Reply #25323 on:** August 03, 2016, 01:36:54 AM »

Saw Jason Bourne today, after watching The Bourne Legacy (Renner) last night.

I don't see why Legacy got 53% or whatever on Rotten Tomatoes. It's a serviceable action movie with great action scenes and hits most of the right notes. I think everybody was willing to hate it because it wasn't one of the three awesome Bourne movies we previously enjoyed. There were plenty of plot holes, and nonsensical moments, but it was OK. It's not a Jason Bourne movie, but it's pretty close.

Jason Bourne manages to split the difference between the awesome Liman/Greengrass original three and the over-the-top action and occasional WTF moments of Legacy. The main themes of surveillance and privacy are reasonably well handled, but anyone with marginal technical awareness will be left with a gaping mouth at some of the casual technical errors made in the film.

Heather Lee, the CIA agent played by Alicia Vikander, is my new waifu.

There's one undeniable great point about the movie, and that is Julia Stiles.

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Nicky Parsons gets kakked in the opening scene, and we never, ever have to deal with Stiles' wooden line readings ever again in this series. I swear I rolled into the theater ready to see if she had grown as an actress, but I'd be willing to bet money that Damon actually tried to make his acting more wooden just so Stiles' didn't seem as horrible. She looks as though she's reading off of cue cards.

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benjipwns · « **Reply #25324 on:** August 03, 2016, 02:39:12 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 02, 2016, 07:28:49 PM

I think 10 Commandments was the first. Either that, or The Shining.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #25325 on:** August 03, 2016, 03:28:19 AM »

Deadpool: funny movie

Special Correspondants: funny but as always Gervais takes it too far

bork · « **Reply #25326 on:** August 03, 2016, 11:51:34 AM »

Quote from: chronovore on August 03, 2016, 01:36:54 AM

Saw Jason Bourne today, after watching The Bourne Legacy (Renner) last night.

I saw Jason Bourne last weekend. Thought it was kind of ho-hum and boring. The movie did pretty much nothing to advance Bourne's story apart from offing more people from his past. The overuse of shaky cams on fucking EVERYTHING sucked. Disappointing.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #25327 on:** August 03, 2016, 11:54:21 AM »

I really only loved the first Bourne movie. It was like greatly diminishing returns on each one after that for me.

Tasty · « **Reply #25328 on:** August 03, 2016, 12:33:39 PM »

I still think Supremacy was the peak. It had a more even tone than the first, better action and a very strong emotional core. Great ending too.

toku · « **Reply #25329 on:** August 03, 2016, 12:38:34 PM »

Nope. The best one is the one with Franka Potente.

I'm a Puppy! · « **Reply #25330 on:** August 03, 2016, 01:06:27 PM »

I don't get the bourne phenomenon. Read the book and was like "Not a great book. But probably would make a good movie." Saw the movie and though, "Not a great movie." Don't understand how so many have been made.

Tasty · « **Reply #25331 on:** August 03, 2016, 01:09:58 PM »

Quote from: toku on August 03, 2016, 12:38:34 PM

Nope. The best one is the one with Franka Potente.

She was at the beginning of Supremacy.

Before they killed her for being so fucking annoying.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #25332 on:** August 03, 2016, 01:24:29 PM »

Julia Stiles

Steve Contra · « **Reply #25333 on:** August 03, 2016, 02:34:03 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 03, 2016, 01:24:29 PM

Julia Stiles

Tasty · « **Reply #25334 on:** August 03, 2016, 03:00:49 PM »

https://www.change.org/p/rottentomatoes-com-shutdown-rotten-tomatoes

Steve Contra · « **Reply #25335 on:** August 03, 2016, 03:03:05 PM »

"even if it's a really great movies"

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #25336 on:** August 03, 2016, 03:16:02 PM »

"It's about ethics in movie reviewing"

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #25337 on:** August 03, 2016, 04:10:05 PM »

If ever we needed Armond White, it's now.

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bork · « **Reply #25338 on:** August 05, 2016, 09:09:31 PM »

Ghostbusters- Actually started off pretty good, then spiraled downward into mediocrity. Lost interest about halfway through. The original destroys it.

HyperZoneWasAwesome · « **Reply #25339 on:** August 05, 2016, 09:47:44 PM »

speaking of French animation, I really very much enjoyed Phantom Boy, which tells a not hugely ambitious story but does so with high technical proficiency. The animation style is slightly spare, but its also very distinctive, colorful, and expressive (dat hand drawn art). Its an adventure film for families in a classic sense, as in its not dumbed down for kids even though its main character is a 10-ish or so boy. That boy can perform astral projection out of his very sick body, he meets a stymied and recently injured cop in the hospital, together they work to crack a case that involves a spunky reporter, a spiteful megalomaniac, oafish goons, and a surprisingly effective lap dog. Its also sort of a thriller, at least kind of a low key one. And I'm pretty much an easy mark for any well done genre film that does its business in 90 minutes minus. So I liked this a lot, and if April and the Extraordinary World hadn't already come out this would be my easy pick for animated film of the year, such is life, to have too many good movies to choose from.

helios · « **Reply #25340 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:10:35 AM »

Suicide Squad is the comedy of the year. They didn't pull all of the funny moments into the trailers. I laughed hard when Quetzlcoatl appeared. I laughed hard when Katana told her sword that she'll be together with it in death. I laughed when Scott Eastwood sacrificed himself.

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This movie might go into "so bad it's good" territory. Might.

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Tasty · « **Reply #25341 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:13:56 AM »

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toku · « **Reply #25342 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:14:36 AM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on August 06, 2016, 02:13:56 AM

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Tasty · « **Reply #25343 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:15:55 AM »

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benjipwns · « **Reply #25344 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:16:20 AM »

I wish the mid-credits scene was like 20 minutes long and in the movie proper. For some reason I feel like I want 20 minutes of Viola Davis as Waller and Affleck as Wayne innuendo sparing.

Tasty · « **Reply #25345 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:17:50 AM »

There should really just be 45 minutes of Davis as Waller since she's obviously the best casting decision by far it's almost embarrassing.

helios · « **Reply #25346 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:22:29 AM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on August 06, 2016, 02:17:50 AM

There should really just be 45 minutes of Davis as Waller since she's obviously the best casting decision by far it's almost embarrassing.

She's a great Amanda Waller. Like spot on. Almost everyone else is forgettable. Will Smith/Deadshot was pretty good. He's pretty much the heart of the film. Those two are the best: Waller and Deadshot.

The Joker was shit. The problem with him is that he's supposed to be a main villain, not a bit character. He's barely in the film.

I rank BvS above this. As shitty as BvS was, it at least had the warehouse fight. Suicide Squad has nothing. It's boring and I was getting impatient. I just wanted the movie to end halfway into it.

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And Slipknot is just there to die. I LOL'd hard when they described his power as being able to climb anything.

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VomKriege · « **Reply #25347 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:22:57 AM »

Posting drunk again, heh ?

Tasty · « **Reply #25348 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:27:58 AM »

Quote from: helios on August 06, 2016, 02:22:29 AM

She's a great Amanda Waller. Like spot on.

CALLED IT

Me in April:

Quote from: Tasty Meat on April 11, 2016, 02:17:37 PM

I will say, Viola Davis as Waller is potentially even better casting than Leto.

Quote from: helios on August 06, 2016, 02:22:29 AM

The Joker was shit. The problem with him is that he's supposed to be a main villain, not a bit character. He's barely in the film.

While I agree, I completely expected this based on: the animated movies, comics, and trailers.

Quote from: helios on August 06, 2016, 02:22:29 AM

I rank BvS above this. As shitty as BvS was, it at least had the warehouse fight. Suicide Squad has nothing. It's boring and I was getting impatient. I just wanted the movie to end halfway into it.

Fuck. FUCK FUCK FUCK.

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT DC

And "Rick Flagg" didn't even turn out to be Nightwing like that rumor said. :'(

Quote from: VomKriege on August 06, 2016, 02:22:57 AM

Posting drunk again, heh ?

Don't make me bite your ballsack.

benjipwns · « **Reply #25349 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:30:10 AM »

Leto said there's like an hour of material that was cut and he has no idea what The Joker was doing after we first see him and when we later see him but he shot other stuff. And that was Ayer's cut, not Warner's.

Maybe they should stop making these ungodly long movies (Snyder's BvS first cut was four hours) and then it won't feel chopped to shreds when Warner's fits it into a theatre.

Or they can keep doing this and then releasing Ultimate Editions, I'm more than fine just waiting on those and never seeing the theatrical mess.

Tasty · « **Reply #25350 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:35:20 AM »

Maybe they should stab Snyder in the throat with a rusty spoon, throw him down the stairs, wrap him up in a rug, and toss him into a Zimbabwean river.

There's parts in the trailers where Joker's face in half-burned. Apparently that's not even in the final film.

I know it's not DC's fault. DC has great stories. They have great comics. They have great cartoons.

The problem is WB. There needs to be a DC Studios like there's a semi-autonomous Marvel Studios. I've been saying this shit forever.

Yeah yeah, Geoff Johns is "in charge" now or whatever. And even though I think Infinite Crisis is the best Crisis, he needs to fucking reboot this shit already.

Keep Batfleck and Davis, jettison everything fucking else into the goddamn sun (including Snyder.) Fuck.

WHERE'S MY GODDAMN TIM DRAKE MOVIE

helios · « **Reply #25351 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:40:09 AM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on August 06, 2016, 02:27:58 AM

Quote from: helios on August 06, 2016, 02:22:29 AM
The Joker was shit. The problem with him is that he's supposed to be a main villain, not a bit character. He's barely in the film.

While I agree, I completely expected this based on: the animated movies, comics, and trailers.

Well, even then, this Joker really isn't memorable. He doesn't do anything to stand out from the other film Jokers except wanting Common to cuckold him.

Quote from: benjipwns on August 06, 2016, 02:30:10 AM

Leto said there's like an hour of material that was cut and he has no idea what The Joker was doing after we first see him and when we later see him but he shot other stuff. And that was Ayer's cut, not Warner's.

Maybe they should stop making these ungodly long movies (Snyder's BvS first cut was four hours) and then it won't feel chopped to shreds when Warner's fits it into a theatre.

Or they can keep doing this and then releasing Ultimate Editions, I'm more than fine just waiting on those and never seeing the theatrical mess.

There was that one Joker scene in the trailers where his hair is messed up and he has like a bomb or gun with him and he's wearing a tux: that's not in the movie. The scenes with those guys wearing panda suits and masks: those last for last then a few seconds.

benjipwns · « **Reply #25352 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:46:57 AM »

Warner's policy seems like it's just "here's a hundred million, do whatever, see you in a year" and then they "fix it" into incoherent garbage. (On that Superman Lives documentary it sounds like that was even their policy way back then.)

Snyder had the Ultimate Edition written into his contract after they renegotiated for doing the broader DC Universe films after he was done with Man of Steel. So he's not entirely dumb. He probably did the four hour cut because he knew they would give him so many notes it would hopefully save more stuff.

In twenty years he'll release the note that said "cut all this boring Clark Kent stuff, Batman is the ticket" from BvS, and Ayer can release his "you know, we could use less Joker antics" note too.

Tasty · « **Reply #25353 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:52:07 AM »

As literally the biggest DC fan on the forum (

) my soul is dead.

The only path to revival is Spider-Man Homecoming 2 directed by Sam Raimi.

benjipwns · « **Reply #25354 on:** August 06, 2016, 03:25:52 AM »

I'm not sure that Warner totally knows who they want to make these movies for either. Or how tightly to adhere to the properties or this particular vision of them. Dense*, dark, realistic. But yet they have to at some point welcome widespread superpowers (not just Superman) and galactic events (just to bring the Green Lantern Corps in) and the New Gods lore (Steppenwolf, Mother Boxes, eventually Darkseid) into this all without pulling down the whole accessibility apparatus. They can't easily leap from the currently built universe to how Marvel has handled and will handle Thanos (a mcguffin leading to a big space fight, with quips galore) regarding Darkseid's unnamed but established status as a God.

*In theory. BvS chews a lot of ideas about superheroes/gods in the "real world" (arguably far better than Civil War...from a purely "on paper" standpoint) even if the film can't get it together well enough to explore it. And probably art house filmmakers like Snyder and Goyer were the wrong ones to even attempt this. Especially with an insane Lex with daddy issues as the "voice" of the concept.

benjipwns · « **Reply #25355 on:** August 06, 2016, 01:34:30 PM »

Apparently an apparently complete list of deleted/altered Suicide Squad scenes:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DC_Cinematic/comments/4wayvi/apparently_a_complete_list_of_the_deleted_scenes/d65ifd0?compact=true

helios · « **Reply #25356 on:** August 06, 2016, 01:52:27 PM »

I guess they are just filming hours upon hours of scenes and then whittling it all down to two hours. Or Ayer had his vision of a darker Suicide Squad, but then Warner was like "White people it up" and made it more "fun" and "lighthearted"

Shame that some of my favorite moments in the trailer aren't in the film. I hate it when movies do that.

benjipwns · « **Reply #25357 on:** August 06, 2016, 01:58:59 PM »

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"Extended scene of Joker interrogating Captain Griggs, including the line, "I can't wait to show you my toys," which was in every trailer, but was removed from the movie."

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"Extended bar scene with Harley taking everyone's orders. Deadshot calls for a shot, Katana wants whiskey, Croc and Boomerang settle for beer, Harley asks Diablo wants and he prefers water which she jokes, "is a good idea." The scene was featured in the trailers, but in the movie it cuts directly to Deadshot's speech about them all almost pulling the mission off."

helios · « **Reply #25358 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:04:37 PM »

There's also that part where Flagg is going over the dossiers while Moon is looking at him and he says "Deadshot shoots people, Harley's crazy, Croc eats people, and you're possessed."

Would have loved this

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"Early reports indicated more backstory for Killer Croc, revealing that he entire life as a social outcast due to his physical appearancr and has convinced himself that he is beautiful in his own way. Croc crossed paths with Batman while working as muscle-for-hire for numerous Gotham's crime bosses, while secretly planning to take over one day. There were also scenes displaying his affinity for making sculptures out of discarded materials. Aside from jokes about Croc viewing himself as 'beautiful,' one of these were retained in the final cut."

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"Also deleted was a scene where he becomes sick at the helicopter escort to Midway City, throws up half-digested pieces of goat, and then eats them again, disgusting the nearby Navy Seals."

But Croc is just there in the movie and ultimately does nothing.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #25359 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:15:46 PM »

what a mess especially since they had a template of a decent SS movie from assault on arkham.

helios · « **Reply #25360 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:32:47 PM »

Jared Leto stole his Joker laugh from the Ice Cream Bunny at around 47 seconds in

benjipwns · « **Reply #25361 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:38:07 PM »

I love how they couldn't let their villains/bad guys say racist/sexist things or hint at possibly of one being a rapist just to make him more unlikable.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #25362 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:53:59 PM »

He isn't even abusive? What the hell.

Tasty · « **Reply #25363 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:54:28 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on August 06, 2016, 03:25:52 AM

I'm not sure that Warner totally knows who they want to make these movies for either. Or how tightly to adhere to the properties or this particular vision of them. Dense*, dark, realistic. But yet they have to at some point welcome widespread superpowers (not just Superman) and galactic events (just to bring the Green Lantern Corps in) and the New Gods lore (Steppenwolf, Mother Boxes, eventually Darkseid) into this all without pulling down the whole accessibility apparatus. They can't easily leap from the currently built universe to how Marvel has handled and will handle Thanos (a mcguffin leading to a big space fight, with quips galore) regarding Darkseid's unnamed but established status as a God.

*In theory. BvS chews a lot of ideas about superheroes/gods in the "real world" (arguably far better than Civil War...from a purely "on paper" standpoint) even if the film can't get it together well enough to explore it. And probably art house filmmakers like Snyder and Goyer were the wrong ones to even attempt this. Especially with an insane Lex with daddy issues as the "voice" of the concept.

Snyder is not art house. He's shithouse.

BvS does "real world superheroes" "better" than Civil War, because it's not something Civil War was ever concerned with. There's a light hint of it with the Sokovia Accords but that was an extension from Age of Ultron, and didn't even really factor into the overall plot much. BvS is so fucking pleased with itself it brangs on and on about the concept but then actively fails to do anything interesting with it.

Superman in front of a Senate commission? That's an interesting concept. And yet in BvS, Superman does not even say a single fucking word in the entire scene. It's all a setup for some stupid fucking shock moment that doesn't serve the plot in any way.

Fuck Zack Snyder.

Tasty · « **Reply #25364 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:56:52 PM »

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on August 06, 2016, 02:53:59 PM

He isn't even abusive? What the hell.

I heard this isn't even in the movie:

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #25365 on:** August 06, 2016, 02:57:57 PM »

How am I gonna get my hot Harley/Ivy lesbo scene if he aint a jerk to her? Fuck this shit.

helios · « **Reply #25366 on:** August 06, 2016, 03:01:11 PM »

Can't have bad guys be bad guys because then they couldn't be good guys.

benjipwns · « **Reply #25367 on:** August 06, 2016, 03:03:14 PM »

It's not, Joker is totally husband material for Harley. Probably wouldn't even kill her because it'd be funny.

There's a reply on there that fixed a scene I thought was confusing, but reading it on the list didn't trigger anything. Harley has a long history of "snapping" free for a bit from Mr. J before returning, and if the scene IS moved to where it was supposed to be it with the way the post describes it completely changes it from her mourning her thought to be dead love to her being done with Mr. J's crap. (Until he comes back.) It also makes Mr. J into a big jerkass.

So they totally did fuck those characters arcs, no wonder Leto, especially, is complaining.

Quote from: Tasty Meat on August 06, 2016, 02:54:28 PM

Snyder is not art house. He's shithouse.

*links to ten thousand word GAF post about art house director Snyder's layered classical art references and Shakespearian construction*

benjipwns · « **Reply #25368 on:** August 06, 2016, 03:05:52 PM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on August 06, 2016, 02:54:28 PM

Superman in front of a Senate commission? That's an interesting concept. And yet in BvS, Superman does not even say a single fucking word in the entire scene. It's all a setup for some stupid fucking shock moment that doesn't serve the plot in any way.

Well, that is an accurate representation of a Senate commission hearing.

helios · « **Reply #25369 on:** August 06, 2016, 03:18:52 PM »

There's one point where Boomerang scurries off to escape, but then comes back for no reason. Literally no reason was given, not even a shitty reason. He just shows up.

Mandark · « **Reply #25370 on:** August 06, 2016, 03:24:01 PM »

Quote from: helios on August 06, 2016, 03:18:52 PM

There's one point where Boomerang scurries off to escape, but then comes back for no reason. Literally no reason was given, not even a shitty reason. He just shows up.

benjipwns · « **Reply #25371 on:** August 06, 2016, 03:31:09 PM »

I have to admit I have a soft spot for movies in where characters just disappear and you forget about it and they then suddenly reappear out of nowhere in an important role and nobody comments on it. I blame MST3K.

chronovore · « **Reply #25372 on:** August 06, 2016, 03:58:30 PM »

Quote from: bork pls on August 03, 2016, 11:51:34 AM

Quote from: chronovore on August 03, 2016, 01:36:54 AM
Saw Jason Bourne today, after watching The Bourne Legacy (Renner) last night.

I saw Jason Bourne last weekend. Thought it was kind of ho-hum and boring. The movie did pretty much nothing to advance Bourne's story apart from offing more people from his past. The overuse of shaky cams on fucking EVERYTHING sucked. Disappointing.

The funny thing is how he starts by saying

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"I remember everything." Oh, OK. Now you've got your memories back -- and then they play with the old Bourne Shaky Memory Kinda Mostly Returning effect used repeatedly when he was an amnesiac. There is so much they could do with a Bourne who has all his memories back, is trying to process what it means to be him, but they just have him doing boring hairshirt penance by doing streetfights for which he's overqualified.

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Tasty · « **Reply #25373 on:** August 06, 2016, 04:06:01 PM »

http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2016/08/suicide-squad.html

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Suicide Squad fails at every single thing it attempts. It's porn for children. It'll make a ton of money, cause a lot of head-scratching and impotent conversations and mild outrage, and then Trump will be President and we'll deserve it. Can't say we haven't been warned.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #25374 on:** August 06, 2016, 05:31:54 PM »

Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on August 06, 2016, 02:47:35 PM

Quote from: benjipwns on August 06, 2016, 02:38:07 PM
I love how they couldn't let their villains/bad guys say racist/sexist things or hint at possibly of one being a rapist just to make him more unlikable.

Or that Joker and Harley are totes in love instead of, you know, Harley having a severe form of stockholm syndrome and unable to get out of an abusive relationship?

What a disaster. Even Batman: TAS had that kind of twisted relationship between them.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #25375 on:** August 06, 2016, 06:42:23 PM »

Well, Batman: TAS was also good, so there's another difference.

toku · « **Reply #25376 on:** August 06, 2016, 06:43:58 PM »

did someone say zack snyder

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #25377 on:** August 06, 2016, 06:44:41 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 06, 2016, 05:31:54 PM

Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on August 06, 2016, 02:47:35 PM
Quote from: benjipwns on August 06, 2016, 02:38:07 PM
I love how they couldn't let their villains/bad guys say racist/sexist things or hint at possibly of one being a rapist just to make him more unlikable.

Or that Joker and Harley are totes in love instead of, you know, Harley having a severe form of stockholm syndrome and unable to get out of an abusive relationship?

What a disaster. Even Batman: TAS had that kind of twisted relationship between them.

batman tas introduced harley.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #25378 on:** August 06, 2016, 07:00:01 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 06, 2016, 05:31:54 PM

Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on August 06, 2016, 02:47:35 PM
Quote from: benjipwns on August 06, 2016, 02:38:07 PM
I love how they couldn't let their villains/bad guys say racist/sexist things or hint at possibly of one being a rapist just to make him more unlikable.

Or that Joker and Harley are totes in love instead of, you know, Harley having a severe form of stockholm syndrome and unable to get out of an abusive relationship?

What a disaster. Even Batman: TAS had that kind of twisted relationship between them.

don't u understand narrative arcs, jeez. Obviously they started out in love, and the abuse began later. I fully expect this to be explored in Suicide Squad 3.

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- toku

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toku · « **Reply #25379 on:** August 06, 2016, 07:19:43 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 06, 2016, 07:00:01 PM

Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 06, 2016, 05:31:54 PM
Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on August 06, 2016, 02:47:35 PM
Quote from: benjipwns on August 06, 2016, 02:38:07 PM
I love how they couldn't let their villains/bad guys say racist/sexist things or hint at possibly of one being a rapist just to make him more unlikable.

Or that Joker and Harley are totes in love instead of, you know, Harley having a severe form of stockholm syndrome and unable to get out of an abusive relationship?

What a disaster. Even Batman: TAS had that kind of twisted relationship between them.

don't u understand narrative arcs, jeez. Obviously they started out in love, and the abuse began later. I fully expect this to be explored in Suicide Squad 3.

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- toku
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nah someone actually climbed into my mentions once because i was ranting abt how harley quinn's entire existence is problematic and the fact that they've been slowly kinda re-writing her to be more on her own/not joker dependent lately in the comics says it all.

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but love is love and maybe mister j got that good dick you know? hell mister j sounds like a black name

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