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« Reply #25620 on: September 14, 2016, 12:12:56 PM »
Alien 3 (Assembly Cut)

I can tell why this movie isn't as well-loved as its forebears, but I thought it was pretty great. If you're invested in Hicks and Newt the opening is the biggest cockslap in the face ever, but it's pretty much the only way the movie works at all. I loved the cinematography - it's beautiful but grimy. The religious stuff fell a bit flat for me but I can tell what they were going for. The effects are mostly laughable too, unfortunately.

Ultimately, Alien 3 gets by on the strength of a few key moments and the ballsy ending. It's not as scary as Alien or high-octane as Aliens, but I appreciate the smaller scope coming off the latter. This movie manages to make a single Alien feel menacing again instead of canon-fodder, which should be commendable.

After extensively reading about the production (and watching the Wreckage and Rage documentary), it's clear to me that this is the best version of Alien 3 we were ever going to get. The original scripts about Humaliens, the Alien homeworld, returning to earth, and the wood planet were all varying levels of strange or dumb. But a movie about Ripley marooned on an industrial prison world and having to deal with a Queen chestburster inside her? That's not bad. Considering the extreme lengths the studio went through to dick with Fincher (an exec straight out admits in Wreckage and Rage that the belief was Fincher would just "get the shots" while "the studio made creative decisions" since he was an unproven youngster), it's a marvel the film even works as well as it does.

This is the first time I've watched Alien 3, and I opted for the more-complete Assembly Cut instead of the theatrical version. It's possible that might be coloring my view. I also knew going in that Newt and Hicks die in the opening, and Ripley dies at the end, so I wasn't completely blind and may have been predisposed against outrage at those events.

3 / 5

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« Reply #25621 on: September 14, 2016, 01:06:54 PM »
Arise sucks.

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« Reply #25622 on: September 14, 2016, 01:18:55 PM »
Arise is...okay. But that's probably really as positive as I can be about it.
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« Reply #25623 on: September 14, 2016, 07:50:01 PM »
Arise SUCKS

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« Reply #25624 on: September 14, 2016, 08:12:36 PM »
Thinking Arise is better than GITS.

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« Reply #25625 on: September 14, 2016, 09:05:58 PM »
Alien 3 (Assembly Cut)

I can tell why this movie isn't as well-loved as its forebears, but I thought it was pretty great. If you're invested in Hicks and Newt the opening is the biggest cockslap in the face ever, but it's pretty much the only way the movie works at all. I loved the cinematography - it's beautiful but grimy. The religious stuff fell a bit flat for me but I can tell what they were going for. The effects are mostly laughable too, unfortunately.

Ultimately, Alien 3 gets by on the strength of a few key moments and the ballsy ending. It's not as scary as Alien or high-octane as Aliens, but I appreciate the smaller scope coming off the latter. This movie manages to make a single Alien feel menacing again instead of canon-fodder, which should be commendable.

After extensively reading about the production (and watching the Wreckage and Rage documentary), it's clear to me that this is the best version of Alien 3 we were ever going to get. The original scripts about Humaliens, the Alien homeworld, returning to earth, and the wood planet were all varying levels of strange or dumb. But a movie about Ripley marooned on an industrial prison world and having to deal with a Queen chestburster inside her? That's not bad. Considering the extreme lengths the studio went through to dick with Fincher (an exec straight out admits in Wreckage and Rage that the belief was Fincher would just "get the shots" while "the studio made creative decisions" since he was an unproven youngster), it's a marvel the film even works as well as it does.

This is the first time I've watched Alien 3, and I opted for the more-complete Assembly Cut instead of the theatrical version. It's possible that might be coloring my view. I also knew going in that Newt and Hicks die in the opening, and Ripley dies at the end, so I wasn't completely blind and may have been predisposed against outrage at those events.

3 / 5

I'll have to find this version. I've watched and enjoyed the Special Edition which is part of the iTunes package with all the Aliens' Directors' Cuts. It says "Special Edition" and not "Director Cut" because Fincher has disowned the movie. Apparently it was put together by an Aliens franchise expert based on Fincher's production notes.

...Actually, after rabbit-holing down this for 30 minutes, it's not clear how the SE is different from the Assembly Cut.  :-\

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« Reply #25626 on: September 14, 2016, 09:40:17 PM »
From Beyond (1986)
A juicy, body-horror morsel from Stuart Gordon, a director I have quite a bit of fondness for. Mostly for his Lovecraft adaptations, but I still like Robot Jox too, dammit! From Beyond reminds me of the first two Hellraiser where you have this hedonist doctor who believes he has experienced all this world has to offer, so he seeks out pleasures beyond human comprehension and ends up in a world where lines between pleasure and pain become irrelevant and only obtaining the ultimate sensation matters. In this case, it involves using his invention The Resonator to stimulate the pineal gland in humans, unlocking a 6th sense. This lets them perceive another, parallel plane of existence, but it also lets the creatures that live in that plane to see them.

The creature effects in this movie were great. Alan Moore even ripped them off for the issue of Providence that dealt with the characters in From Beyond (they look very similar). :) The gore effects were messy and over the top. People get melted, people get transformed, people get their brains sucked out through their eye sockets, there's tentacles, there's Barbara Crampton in fetish wear. Wew, lads. The final climactic battle has two people merged into one body, tearing themselves apart. Solid movie. I would give it an A-, but then I remembered the scene where Jeffery Combs is like "It ate him. Bit. Off his head. Like a. Gingerbread man!", and then I gotta go A+.

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« Reply #25627 on: September 14, 2016, 11:04:23 PM »
I'll have to find this version. I've watched and enjoyed the Special Edition which is part of the iTunes package with all the Aliens' Directors' Cuts. It says "Special Edition" and not "Director Cut" because Fincher has disowned the movie. Apparently it was put together by an Aliens franchise expert based on Fincher's production notes.

...Actually, after rabbit-holing down this for 30 minutes, it's not clear how the SE is different from the Assembly Cut.  :-\

They're the same, apparently. I watched what was dubbed the "Special Edition" on the Anthology set. It's basically the original version Fincher showed execs, who then decided to hack it to pieces.

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« Reply #25628 on: September 15, 2016, 05:30:09 AM »
Neato. I may just watch it again. I saw the original way back when, and it was a wretched mess. I really enjoyed the version I have of Alien 3; I'm just debating on whether or not to watch Aliens before re-watching 3.

I was stunned how much I disliked Alien Resurrection last time I watched it. I remember enjoying it for that City of Lost Children feeling in the camerawork, but wow it's a stinker.

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« Reply #25629 on: September 15, 2016, 05:31:48 AM »
1986 Barbra Crampton

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Wow, that's hot. It's nice that she's trimmed as well. But BOY HOWDY, that airbrush painting in the backdrop cannot be un-seen. Some set-dresser knocked that out in 30 minutes.

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« Reply #25630 on: September 15, 2016, 11:42:31 AM »
Wishmaster (1997)
A bit shite, innit? I like a good Monkey's Paw set up, but they didn't really do anything interesting with it and sometimes the Djinn just straight up cheats. Let's run down the wishes: one guy asks for another guy to get cancer and die, the other guy gets turbo-cancer and dies in 5 seconds. So basically, wish granted. A woman asks to be beautiful forever and he turns her into a statue. Okay. A guy wishes "to not see this" and gets his eyes sown shut. Yawn. A guy wishes for a million dollars and his mom dies in a plane crash and he gets her million dollar life insurance policy. Ho hum. Okay, but then Tony Todd asks to "escape" and the Djinn puts him in a water coffin and tells him "Houdini did it in 2 minutes." WTF, that's not granting his wish at all, that's like the opposite of granting his wish. It would have been easy to twist this wish around and teleport the guy to the Moon or inside a volcano or whatever, but no. For the water coffin play to work, the Djinn would have had to put him into the coffin, then released him from it. He asked to escape, not to be put in a situation that he would be unable to escape from. I'm not buying it, this has to violate genie bylaws.

Spellcaster (1988)
There are some random-ass movies in the gutters of Amazon Prime, and this DTV dumpster fire is one of them. A pair of siblings win a contest to go to an Italian castle for the weekend with a pop starlet and a MTV-style VJ and compete to win a million dollars for a TV show. The castle is owned by an evil sorcerer played by Adam Ant (who is only in the movie for about 1 minute). He kills everyone by tapping on his crystal ball with his (stunt double's) hand, and having them fall off the castle ramparts or whatever. The siblings defeat him and save everyone from Adam Ant Hell. It was boring and dumb.

Edit: I didn't mean to watch two movies that rhymed last night. :doge
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« Reply #25631 on: September 15, 2016, 03:02:52 PM »
WDW

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« Reply #25632 on: September 15, 2016, 04:31:42 PM »

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« Reply #25633 on: September 15, 2016, 09:52:49 PM »
Wishmaster (1997)
A bit shite, innit? I like a good Monkey's Paw set up, but they didn't really do anything interesting with it and sometimes the Djinn just straight up cheats. Let's run down the wishes: one guy asks for another guy to get cancer and die, the other guy gets turbo-cancer and dies in 5 seconds. So basically, wish granted. A woman asks to be beautiful forever and he turns her into a statue. Okay. A guy wishes "to not see this" and gets his eyes sown shut. Yawn. A guy wishes for a million dollars and his mom dies in a plane crash and he gets her million dollar life insurance policy. Ho hum. Okay, but then Tony Todd asks to "escape" and the Djinn puts him in a water coffin and tells him "Houdini did it in 2 minutes." WTF, that's not granting his wish at all, that's like the opposite of granting his wish. It would have been easy to twist this wish around and teleport the guy to the Moon or inside a volcano or whatever, but no. For the water coffin play to work, the Djinn would have had to put him into the coffin, then released him from it. He asked to escape, not to be put in a situation that he would be unable to escape from. I'm not buying it, this has to violate genie bylaws.

Spellcaster (1988)
There are some random-ass movies in the gutters of Amazon Prime, and this DTV dumpster fire is one of them. A pair of siblings win a contest to go to an Italian castle for the weekend with a pop starlet and a MTV-style VJ and compete to win a million dollars for a TV show. The castle is owned by an evil sorcerer played by Adam Ant (who is only in the movie for about 1 minute). He kills everyone by tapping on his crystal ball with his (stunt double's) hand, and having them fall off the castle ramparts or whatever. The siblings defeat him and save everyone from Adam Ant Hell. It was boring and dumb.

Edit: I didn't mean to watch two movies that rhymed last night. :doge

Tomorrow:
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« Reply #25634 on: September 15, 2016, 09:56:53 PM »
$2.99 tho :donot
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« Reply #25635 on: September 15, 2016, 10:01:27 PM »
I actually watched this movie this afternoon. It had The Feldog in it. :lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voodoo_(film)

To summarize: "This run-of-the-mill campus thriller crosses Angel Heart with Revenge of the Nerds, as if that were a niche that really needed filling."
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« Reply #25636 on: September 15, 2016, 10:46:27 PM »
+*Sorta-But-Not-Really-Horror-Movies-That-Were-Also-Giant-Financial-Failures-Review-GEAUX!

The Disappointments Room is bad. And unfortunately it fails to be bad in any sort of interesting way. It does have the wift of wasted potential, with the occasional good idea or temporarily nice image coming through (best 'Flushing of the Meds' scene I've seen in a while) just to raise hopes slightly before the dull tedium of its pedestrian sorta-supernatural mystery marches on. It tackles some potentially heady themes, especially for a dumb and low-aiming fright flick, but grapples with them in a purely and somewhat irresponsibly superficial way. Yeah, its bad, and I'm the guy who finds many things to enjoy in the latter day output of Steven Seagal.

I rather liked Morgan, but telling exactly as to why would spoil the reasons I did. Its not because of a plot twist, just so we're clear. I can say that I enjoyed the front this film puts on. Its the well overqualified cast, its the extremely well mannered dialog, the significantly rare actual science fiction plotting of it all. The very good cast give pretty much uniformly strong performances in a film that goes places that most films with multiple Oscar nominees in it just wouldn't go. But something's a bit off, some of the motivations and actions don't make sense , the clearly low budget gets mightily stretched but still some seams show, you could say its all a bit rough around the edges. Me; I enjoy that sort of distinctive flaws, at least when they serve a clear goal. Morgan, for its faults, and I have to be careful to not over recommend or spoil this film, but it knows exactly what it's going for and does a pretty good job reaching that goal. Thanks nepotism (Ridley Scott got to call in a lot of favors for his kids film I guess).

but if you need selling on it...
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for reals, its good, but don't look here unless you want to ruin the surprise
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I liked it a lot because...
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Its essentially a feature length Outer Limits episode with some surprisingly great third act action scenes. Better fight scenes then most American pictures for that matter. How many films could be improved by the protagonist busting out some rad but heretofore unrevealed kung-fu skills towards the end, I ask of you? Pretty much all of them (yes to this list I include Citizen Kane).
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« Reply #25637 on: September 16, 2016, 01:48:52 AM »
That Tom Ford film is pretty intriguing.
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« Reply #25638 on: September 16, 2016, 02:30:10 AM »
Arise > Innocence and every post original movie. SAC is the best for me though

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« Reply #25639 on: September 16, 2016, 02:31:19 AM »
arise fucking sucks

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« Reply #25640 on: September 16, 2016, 02:40:15 AM »
I'm not saying it's good, i'm saying the other shit is worse

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« Reply #25641 on: September 16, 2016, 07:34:05 AM »
That's good to hear about Morgan.  It looked really interesting but reviews I saw were pretty scathing so I figured I'd wait until I could rent it.

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« Reply #25642 on: September 16, 2016, 07:43:37 AM »
The riotious In Order of Disappearance wears the suit of a crime/revenge thriller, but its actually a bleak, cold (literal as well, in that giant heaps of snow permeate the scenery) comedy. Vengeful snowplow operator and wonderfully named Dickman (a very terse Stellen Skarsgard) tears through a Norwiegian crime syndicate in search of answers for his son's death. Ole Dickman turns out to be a surprisingly competent assassin, but the jokes come in the often deflating situations that the many guilty parties tend to find themselves in. For example, I doubt I'll see a dorkier mob boss all this year. I had a great time with this, although it peters out a bit towards the end. I still very much recommend this though.

Every (rare)time one of the big studios makes a competent, big budget adult drama without blowing it, it tends to get graded on a curve by the mainstream press. So there's been lots of praise for Sully, even though its really only two thirds of a compelling film. That 60-70 percent really is pretty good though. The story of a modest and very reserved man becoming uncomfrtably famous,and the dynamite restaging of the event that brings him that fame are plenty compelling. The post-crash bureacratic meetings I could do without. Still a good film, when it stays a restrained film about a restrained guy it might even be better than good. But its not always about that precisely.

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« Reply #25643 on: September 16, 2016, 10:12:17 AM »
I'm not saying it's good, i'm saying the other shit is worse

Yup.

Thinking Arise is better than GITS.

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Thinking GITS is good.

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« Reply #25644 on: September 16, 2016, 10:24:51 AM »
You're gonna have to stay losing on this one, bork. The original Ghost in the Shell movie is a classic. Do you hate Patlabor too?
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« Reply #25645 on: September 16, 2016, 11:01:43 AM »
The entire Arise OVA series plus movie isn't even as good as this one scene in Innocence:



Come on, fampai.
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« Reply #25646 on: September 16, 2016, 12:25:02 PM »
I'm going to watch Snowden and Blair Witch tonight. I preemptively give Snowden a 3/5 and Blair Witch a 4/5. Check back later to see if I was right!

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« Reply #25647 on: September 16, 2016, 12:56:32 PM »
The entire Arise OVA series plus movie isn't even as good as this one scene in Innocence:



Come on, fampai.

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« Reply #25648 on: September 16, 2016, 02:08:59 PM »
Disappointed where Blair Witch seems to have ended up review wise.

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« Reply #25649 on: September 16, 2016, 02:52:53 PM »
Reviews are fairly poor on Blair Witch.  Shame, was hoping it'd be good enough to see in theaters.  Then again I'm not a huge fan of Wingard, but I think he makes solid horror films.  Guess just not this one.

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« Reply #25650 on: September 16, 2016, 06:37:05 PM »
Seeing as how he's doing the death note film, and then a remake of a 2010 SK film after I think he's just doing the studio thing for awhile (maybe to help fund future stuff for himself?)

I wouldn't write him off yet.

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« Reply #25651 on: September 16, 2016, 07:29:28 PM »
Avengers 3. Or Captain America whatever. I think I'm done with Marvel movies.

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« Reply #25652 on: September 17, 2016, 01:39:12 AM »
well fuck.  That's disappointing as hell. 

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« Reply #25653 on: September 17, 2016, 02:01:48 AM »

I'll have to find this version. I've watched and enjoyed the Special Edition which is part of the iTunes package with all the Aliens' Directors' Cuts. It says "Special Edition" and not "Director Cut" because Fincher has disowned the movie. Apparently it was put together by an Aliens franchise expert based on Fincher's production notes.

...Actually, after rabbit-holing down this for 30 minutes, it's not clear how the SE is different from the Assembly Cut.  :-\

I really like David Fincher but I think his disdain for Alien 3 is really lame. It's not the worst thing he's ever directed, and I wish he could get over himself enough to talk about it. I can't think of any other directors who started their career out as a studio tool and then smoothly transitioned into a defined style more quickly than Fincher. I'd really love to hear some of his insights into how he managed that.


Saw 13 Hours was online and couldn't resist. Comedy of the year. It feels almost like satire, like a Paul Verhooven flick without any irony or self awareness. Every line sounds like something Alex Jones came up with after powdering his nuts with raw blow. Every character is an HGH snorting Crossfit gym owner who moonlights as a WWE character. It's hilarious, and a lot more tolerable than Pearl Harbor.

Speaking of which I just remembered that I went to see Pearl Harbor on a class trip in like 6th grade, and walking back to school the chick I had a crush on cried. I still wound up giving her a note on the last day, she never called me. Years later I wound up blowing xanax with her in sisters car and kissing her cuz she said she'd never been kissed. Then the next day she told my ex to tell me she didn't like me like that, and i was like "what" cuz I didn't remember it happening.

Anyway that anecdote has a more cogent narrative and better characterization than 13 Hours so fuck that movie unless you hate yourself and are explicitly stealing

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« Reply #25654 on: September 17, 2016, 08:40:34 AM »
Wait, they made a new Blair Witch movie?

But... the OG was shit already.

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« Reply #25655 on: September 17, 2016, 09:43:51 AM »
My reviews were pretty close. Snowden was a very interesting story with a lot of dramatic nonsense added into a pretty boring movie.

Blair Witch was, like mojo said, all jump scares the first half. Like, ridiculous jump scares where they add loud, scary sound effects to dropping your keys. But the second half was nonstop terror. It didn't have the atmosphere of the first one, but it was a fun ride.

The first one made me feel like "oh, no, what is happening to these poor people?" whereas this one I went in thinking "I can't wait to see these people get wreckt in these woods," and I think that was what they were going for.

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« Reply #25656 on: September 17, 2016, 10:55:45 AM »
Mainly because it relies on jump scares for a lot of it and then changes and becomes amazing for the last 10 minutes.

Sounds like the shitty Evil Dead remake.

:what Evil Dead didn't have jump scares.

Also it was awesome.

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« Reply #25657 on: September 17, 2016, 06:03:07 PM »
Blair Witch  :trash :trash
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« Reply #25658 on: September 18, 2016, 01:59:31 AM »
Blair Witch (2016)

Disclaimer: I'm approaching this sequel/soft-reboot (sequeboot?) as an unabashed fan of the 1999 original. The Blair Witch Project is, in fact, my favorite horror movie.

Any sequel to The Blair Witch Project faces a conundrum: it can't simultaneously "respect" the original while also trying to be "fresh." A sequel can not, in fact, show "nothing" as the original did, nor pretend it's "real" at all. At the same time, if you do go supernatural and effects-driven you're basically making the antithesis to what you're a sequel to. I don't envy Adam Wingard, but at the same time, Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2 should have been an omen that franchising the Blair Witch is ill-advised at best.

I put my reverence for The Blair Witch Project to the side going in. They simply could not have made a movie in that same "tone" - it already pissed off half the audience, and that was when it was new! I knew from the trailers that this film would actually "show stuff," and I was fine with that.

In general, I enjoyed Blair Witch. It was tense and scary (albeit with too many fake-out jump scares) and I could tell it was trying to honor its namesake while at the same time deliberately missing the "point" of its forebear. Spoilers in the bullet points to follow.

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- The entire idea of an "endless night" has always severely creeped me out (it was one of my first nightmares that I can remember.)
- In general I also love the idea, vaguely touched on in the original, of the woods existing out of time and space.
- The design of the titular witch was fairly well done, even though it was foreshadowed a little too hard.
- The voodoo stick figures were a fun idea.
- I loved the shot of the tent flying up in the air.
- The final 20 minutes were a little predictable but still tense as fuck and kept surprising me. Some pretty inventive stuff there.
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- The ear-piece cameras were a fantastic idea. I really wish they had only used those, to be honest.
- Ramping things up earlier was a good decision, the pacing feels fairly well-done overall.
- It was great to see that my early suspicions of the cameras all producing the same footage was unfounded. White female's Canon had a noticeable bokeh effect and the local dude's camcorder was sufficiently grainy.
- Despite what I say below, I did like the familial connection to the original.
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- At the risk of sounding racist, the two black characters were completely unnecessary. They slowed the movie down too much and I was looking forward to them getting out of the movie so things could progress.
- The drone was pointless and seemed a little try-hardy to be "hip and with it."
- The characters were all stock. To be fair, the original trio were fairly stock-ish but they still felt like real people. There were also only three of them, and they all seemed to at least have a function in the plot (Josh is the one to go missing, Mike is there to comfort Heather after Josh's disappearance, and of course Heather is the protagonist who gets in over her head.)
- Why why WHY IN THE WORLD would the locals, who completely and utterly BELIEVE in the Blair Witch, WANT TO GO CAMPING WITH THE GROUP?? This baffled me so much. It was an easy opportunity to have the "creepy local warnings" trope and they botched it.
- The male local dude reminded me of the (potentially) mentally challenged guy Dee dated on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Was it the same actor?
- When one of your characters lampshades how many jump scares there are, you should realize that means you have 1500% more jump scares than necessary.
- The one thing they should have taken from the original was the "rawness" of the video and audio. I had to laugh when early on they're in their tents and they hear branches breaking and it's a thousand times clearer and louder than the sounds in the original.
- On that note, this is found footage, so leave the shitty "moody" score out of things.
- It's a little hard for my suspension of disbelief to stretch enough for Heather to have a brother over 15 years younger than her. They did it because a brother would be a stronger connection than a nephew or cousin, and they wanted to use modern camera equipment, so I get all that. But it's hard to take really seriously. In my ideal version, he'd be her brother, but this would have taken place in 1999 (five years after Heather disappeared.) The cameras would have been slightly better but still "raw" and grainy enough for my liking.
- I don't know about you but if my phone's alarm went off at 7am and it was still pitch black out, I'd be freaking out a hell of a lot more than protagonist chick did.
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In all honesty this felt more like an extended version of a good V/H/S short (down to the unnecessary and fake-looking "video glitches.")

For all its faults, The Blair Witch Project trusted its audience - that they wouldn't need crystal clear audio or video, or a score, or a bunch of characters. Just three people losing their minds while being tormented by an unseen evil. The original intent was to have a "wraparound" documentary with sit-down interviews (exactly like The Last Broadcast.) But the filmmakers took a risk and made the movie 100% "found footage." They trusted their audience (although looking back, perhaps that trust was misplaced.)

In comparison, Blair Witch is significantly dumbed down for a modern audience. It's still effective, and as a fan of the mythology this movie does push things forward there. I can't fault the film for its desire to "show stuff," since otherwise it could not exist. But I can fault it for missing the mark in places where it should have copied the original more.

Since I'm so smart, here's how it would have ended in my version:

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Playing off the time and space stuff, it turns out that the light in the house at the end WAS Heather, and when her brother enters the place he's transported back to 1994 (and the ending of the original movie.) He gets to see what happens to his sister before he himself gets taken out.

Now this would have required a lot of camera trickery and effects to get right, but if Deep Space Nine can insert Warf and co. into The Original Series, then a big budget movie probably could manage.

Yes this pretty much rips off a scene in one of the Blair Witch PC games, but honestly, who played those anyways?
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I'll probably post a bit more as my thoughts settle. Despite all the things I didn't like, I did enjoy it overall and I'm glad it exists. The worst part about it is I can see the potential for a much better and more effective horror movie right under the surface.

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« Reply #25659 on: September 18, 2016, 02:09:16 AM »
Nice write up. It sums up my feelings. Some great ideas with strange execution at times

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the tunnel scene was well done and claustrophobic as fuck. Having the locals show back up was great and well done.

The black chick was annoying. Terrible actress who made the most annoying noises.

Had townie dude grown a beard when got stabbed?
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« Reply #25660 on: September 18, 2016, 02:22:05 AM »
Nice write up. It sums up my feelings. Some great ideas with strange execution at times

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the tunnel scene was well done and claustrophobic as fuck. Having the locals show back up was great and well done.

The black chick was annoying. Terrible actress who made the most annoying noises.

Had townie dude grown a beard when got stabbed?
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The best part of the tunnel scene is she didn't get dragged away or see something "scary." It's one of the few parts in the movie that the film settles the fuck down and just lets the audience feel uncomfortable with what's on screen.

Townie dude had a fairly long beard when he shows back up in the house, yeah. When him and his GF find the group again he said they'd been wandering for "about five days" but they couldn't really tell since the sun never rose. That part was really well-done.
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« Reply #25661 on: September 19, 2016, 01:09:44 AM »
Re-watching the Daniel Craig 007 films, in order. This if my fourth or fifth viewing of Casino Royale, which is my favorite among them. I've probably watched just the opening parkour chase twice that many times; what a fabulous way to introduce the physicality and directness of Craig's Bond. It's odd to realize that this was my introduction to the genius of Mads Mikkelson. I found a tiny error in the movie; essentially a red herring:
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After defeating Le Chiffre at poker, Vesper excuses herself from the celebration dinner, commenting that Mathis needs her. 007 puts it together that Mathis exposed Le Chiffre's "tell" and is still betraying Vesper and Bond. 007 gives chase and is captured, and Le Chiffre seems to confirm "Your friend Mathis is actually my friend Mathis." However, Vesper is the one who betrayed them, and Le Chiffre would have no knowledge of Bond's suspicion, nor any reason to misdirect Bond if Le Chiffre had the information. 
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Other than that, a fantastic modernization of the character, great storytelling, and screw everyone who objected to this essentially being an origin story.

It's difficult to go back to the older Bond movies for me now. Hopefully I can embrace their cheesiness again someday. Just a few days ago, I watched From a View to a Kill, and it's difficult to believe how it could have been made. The SFPD are handled with the same delicate tone as the Keystone Kops. Christopher Walken is a caricature. Tanya Roberts is insufferable. Drinking game: Every time Tanya Roberts says, shrieks, whines, or otherwise utters "James!" you take a shot. You will not make it to the end of the movie, having knocked yourself the fuck out somewhere in the second act.

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« Reply #25662 on: September 19, 2016, 12:20:06 PM »
It's clear to me that Blair Witch was nothing more than a cheap attempt to revive a property so they can sequelize it to hell and back every year. They just made a generic found footage movie with barely any original ideas and medicore execution.

So many times when I was watching I couldn't tell what the frick was supposed to be going on. Like that part where the main girl and the main guy are standing in their camp site and she's freaking out and... something is happening causing them to constantly jerk around. It was so unclear what was supposed to be happening I was just annoyed.

The only thing I really liked in the movie was when:
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The chick breaks the stick figure and the other girl also breaks in half. Interesting idea!
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Then they never do anything with it again.
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« Reply #25663 on: September 19, 2016, 12:22:41 PM »
I always felt the original Blair Witch was a right time, right moment kind of thing. It seems almost impossible to replicate. I only watched the original once in the theaters and I was mixed on it back then.


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« Reply #25664 on: September 19, 2016, 12:26:36 PM »
Movies like [REC] and Grave Encounters are both movies that take the found footage genre and do something good with it. IMO [REC] is the best found footage horror movie to date.

This COULD have been really great had they actually followed through with some of the interesting ideas.
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« Reply #25665 on: September 19, 2016, 12:37:16 PM »
Yeah I remember really liking REC. The foreign language one at least. Never saw the american version.

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« Reply #25666 on: September 19, 2016, 12:40:15 PM »
Yeah I remember really liking REC. The foreign language one at least. Never saw the american version.
The US remake was awful. 

I've never seen Grave Encounters.  I assume it's worth watching then?

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« Reply #25667 on: September 19, 2016, 12:44:25 PM »
I loved the first Grave Encounters. It's gimmicky as all fuck but I thought it was a good gimmick and it had a few actually scary moments.
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« Reply #25668 on: September 19, 2016, 01:02:16 PM »
Grave Encounters is pretty good schlock. As a found footage buff I really enjoyed it but there's no getting around it's overdone and cheesy as hell. I also remember some pacing issues.

Grave Encounters 2 has my fave moment across both films tho* (and the movie in general goes to some nicely weird places.)

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Lance impersonating his former castmates was a lot of fun.
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« Reply #25669 on: September 19, 2016, 01:29:12 PM »
Movies like [REC] and Grave Encounters are both movies that take the found footage genre and do something good with it. IMO [REC] is the best found footage horror movie to date.

Trollhunter, breh. Although, I wouldn't really call it a horror movie, at least not in the vein of [REC] and Blair Witch. Still really good, though, and I generally don't like found footage movies that much.
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« Reply #25670 on: September 19, 2016, 01:44:32 PM »
Yeah I liked Trollhunter, but like you said - it's not really a horror movie.
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« Reply #25671 on: September 19, 2016, 01:45:48 PM »
Tanya Roberts is insufferable. Drinking game: Every time Tanya Roberts says, shrieks, whines, or otherwise utters "James!" you take a shot. You will not make it to the end of the movie, having knocked yourself the fuck out somewhere in the second act.

She never actually said James once. It was JEEEEEMS.
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« Reply #25672 on: September 19, 2016, 02:59:28 PM »
Hmm might add that to my October horror list then. I kinda didn't like Only God Forgives and it seemed like more of that.

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« Reply #25673 on: September 19, 2016, 03:15:22 PM »
Btw, years ago, I remember we took turns streaming shitty youtube horror movies. We doing that again this year?

We will as long as people will show up.
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« Reply #25674 on: September 19, 2016, 03:32:26 PM »
Neon Demon

I think I loved it.

It was very superficial, but I feel like that's by design. And it really works for the setting and characters. Don't know why people found so pretentious since it's very shallow, and very straightforward. Also hot damn the cinematography, score, everything presentation wise was a sight to behold. I know Refn can shoot the shit out of a movie but this is probably his best work in that regard.

That said I completely understand why someone wouldn't like this movie. It's a hard one to recommend.

It's like if Dario Argento and Stanley Kubrick made a movie together. Exactly what I was looking for today.

This is like every modern Refn movie to me tbh. IF this is not your shit you're not gonna be down. He does modern cinematic violence in a way that few can (it's actual violence in that it's horrific/traumatic). People end badly for a variety of reasons but often because they don't know when to quit.

I liked Only God Forgives tho so don't listen to me bless up.

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« Reply #25675 on: September 19, 2016, 04:56:11 PM »
Hmm might add that to my October horror list then. I kinda didn't like Only God Forgives and it seemed like more of that.

I DESPISED Only God Forgives but loved this. Neon Demon had a lot more character than that shitty movie. Fuck, even Keanu Reeves had character in this movie. Didn't even know he was in this. But as far as acting goes Jena Malone killed it.

Then again I love basically every other Refn movie, so take that as you will.

Only God forgives was a beautiful but frustrating movie it just felt like one long exercise in sabotaging yourself as a director. Like Drive garnered too much popularity so he wanted to make sure his next film was as silly as possible.

Will watch Neon Demon soon.

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« Reply #25676 on: September 20, 2016, 05:13:41 AM »
It's difficult to go back to the older Bond movies for me now. Hopefully I can embrace their cheesiness again someday. Just a few days ago, I watched From a View to a Kill, and it's difficult to believe how it could have been made.

IIRC, Eon felt under pressure from the release of the "unofficial" Bond movie Never say never again and that's partly why they kept going with Roger Moore despite everyone (and the actor first and foremost) knowing he was getting way too old for the part, they felt it was too risky pushing a new face while the other iconic (and also aging...) Bond actor  was put forward by the competition. While most of the Moore films felt like they were past it, first rehashing its own stories then chasing the now cool movie kids (blatantly with Moonraker), none were quite as bad as A View to a Kill.

Speaking of Moonraker, that's one I now find pretty awesome after years of nerd rage about how it tries to steal Star Wars lunch : great production design (last Bond film by Ken Adam) and excellent locations, nice score, very cool setpieces (Jaws stalking the girl at the carnival in an alley, a cool fight scene that wouldn't look out of place in Project A), a good villain and some spectacular SFX (though those are uneven). The plot is also batshit insane and the film embraces its stupidity (Jaws getting a girlfriend ? Product placement on a series of giant billboards in a chase scene ? Judo monks testing lasers in the desert while Roger Moore is dressed as Clint Eastwood ?) so it's always entertaining.
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« Reply #25677 on: September 20, 2016, 01:39:39 PM »


Did Jay read my Bore review? We said the exact same things. :lol

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« Reply #25678 on: September 20, 2016, 03:26:19 PM »


Did Jay read my Bore review? We said the exact same things. :lol


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« Reply #25679 on: September 20, 2016, 04:04:10 PM »


Did Jay read my Bore review? We said the exact same things. :lol


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