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« Reply #28680 on: December 27, 2017, 04:38:04 AM »
The Grand Budapest Hotel and well what can you say ? It's a Wes Anderson movie, you know what you'll get. I do like his work and this one was, I thought, excellent probably because I am fond of the interwar vaguely Central European setting, a very classic imagery but not used much lately (it's a bit gaudy, passé, associated with Sissi and the Sound of Music ?). Anderson's style is a perfect fit for this sort of nostalgy, it's beautifully shot (love the choice of framing it in 1.37) and I liked how he played around with classic movie beats (chases and escapes), it's not nearly as on the nose as some of the other lesser films by other directors can be when going this route (WE'RE META AREN'T WE CLEVER !).
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« Reply #28681 on: December 27, 2017, 07:56:02 PM »
The Little Hours - Several comedians made a movie that fails to be funny. I don't really like Fred Armisen, but his were the only jokes I laughed during the 2 hours this extended-form improv exercise took place. They were at the end. It plays out like they had a loose direction for where the story would go, and then assumed they'd all be funny together. Aubrey's near-sociopathic angry chick schtick nearly carries the movie. Alison Brie seems like she's almost just trying to do drama, not humor. It's beautifully shot. The cinematography accomplished, sets the proper mood. That's about it.

Bright: cool stuff, obviously ready to be a Netflix show now


I really liked it. I'm going to watch it again next week.

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« Reply #28682 on: December 27, 2017, 08:04:30 PM »
Requiem for a Dream:brazilcry

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« Reply #28683 on: December 28, 2017, 01:54:22 AM »
Finally saw mother! tonight... The metaphor was pretty obvious and I like how intense Aronofsky's movies get in the ending scenes.
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« Reply #28684 on: December 28, 2017, 01:58:14 AM »
I watched Body Parts from the 90s. Lots of dismemberment. 4 bags of popcorn and 3 penis squirts. 
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« Reply #28685 on: December 28, 2017, 01:58:58 AM »
Mother! Will forever be the film where Red Letter Media informed me that Aronofsky is just some slub from Brooklyn making movies lol. Mother both heightened and lowered my opinion of him.
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« Reply #28686 on: December 28, 2017, 03:50:31 AM »
The Babysitter - Was cute. Some of the stuff initially was kinda a little dull or lame, but man, the kills were great and hilarious. Once the action got started it was pretty satisfying through the ending. Good movie. Much better than Krampus (and kinda similar too as a tongue-in-cheek comedy horror), but not quite as good as Happy Death Day. Worth the 90 mins.

Finally saw mother! tonight... The metaphor was pretty obvious and I like how intense Aronofsky's movies get in the ending scenes.

The more time passes, the more I like Mother! Just cause it's a fun little art school concept film. It's like the opposite of pretentious. Feels like Arnofsky doesn't really have any expectations, he's just like "this is a story I wrote and wanted to make a movie of, thanks for watching."

I watched Body Parts from the 90s. Lots of dismemberment. 4 bags of popcorn and 3 penis squirts.

The genre of people getting body parts implants (like an eye or an arm from someone) from other people and being taken over from them is one of those genres I'm always surprised sticks around since it's so dumb. Then again I'm equally surprised that there is a niche audience for cavemen BC movies since we seem to get a new big budget one every 4-5 years as well.

just wanted to rattle off some movies I thought about recently while I'm still lucid enough in the middle of the night to talk about them. if you're into movies about malaise and ennui with anticlimaxes and kafkaesque resolutions then these are completely for you

A Serious Man, a Cohen Bros. Film
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I think this is one of their lesser known films but a cult hit. About an unassuming Jew whose life becomes assailed by tremendous adversities and mishappenings. The moral of the story is probably that no one truly has any control over their life. I also found the ending deeply hilarious in a perfect Cohen Brothers way.

All three of these are movies I really enjoyed while I was feeling hapless or in a derealized state (or in one of those vacuous 'wow life's so meaningless' moods), hope it interests someone else.

Sorry, only registered users can see this content. Please Login or Register., I feel like A Serious Man is the best Jewish comedy out there, even better than some of Mel Brook's stuff. It's so freaking funny and so freaking dry Jewish humor. Probably top 5 Coen Brothers movies for me. Though maybe in the 6-10 range just because there are so many great ones (Llewyn Davis, Millers Crossing, Fargo, Hudsuckers Proxy, Big Lebowski are probably all a little higher).
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« Reply #28687 on: December 28, 2017, 04:11:00 AM »

The genre of people getting body parts implants (like an eye or an arm from someone) from other people and being taken over from them is one of those genres I'm always surprised sticks around since it's so dumb. Then again I'm equally surprised that there is a niche audience for cavemen BC movies since we seem to get a new big budget one every 4-5 years as well.

Well, Body Parts is mildly interesting because it’s based on a novel by the same dudes that wrote the novels that Les Diaboliques and Vertigo were based on, although it is abviously not nearly as good and goes for gore over psychology. You can see where the psychology was though. It’s an amusing, very early 90s footnote.
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« Reply #28688 on: December 28, 2017, 12:24:24 PM »
The Grand Budapest Hotel and well what can you say ? It's a Wes Anderson movie, you know what you'll get. I do like his work and this one was, I thought, excellent probably because I am fond of the interwar vaguely Central European setting, a very classic imagery but not used much lately (it's a bit gaudy, passé, associated with Sissi and the Sound of Music ?). Anderson's style is a perfect fit for this sort of nostalgy, it's beautifully shot (love the choice of framing it in 1.37) and I liked how he played around with classic movie beats (chases and escapes), it's not nearly as on the nose as some of the other lesser films by other directors can be when going this route (WE'RE META AREN'T WE CLEVER !).

I think it's interesting how Budapest tried to synthesize Anderson's vibe with the established aesthetic of prewar Europe. This made the world seem a little more rich and the quirkiness seem a little more natural than his earlier movies.

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« Reply #28689 on: December 28, 2017, 08:24:20 PM »
new blade runner joint was pretty slick; no real complaints nor did I feel the runtime, which was a meta concern going on... leto's brief moments were a bit corny, I suppose, and the only real sticking point to me was the soundtrack's over-reliance on BRRRT to juice up the tension.

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« Reply #28690 on: December 28, 2017, 08:52:11 PM »
Reportedly, they wanted Bowie to play the Leto role, but he was already sick at that point. He would've been so good.

Honestly, I thought all the establishing scenes showing the Evil Corporation doing evil things were needless. Their motivations were better off left implied.

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« Reply #28691 on: December 29, 2017, 12:03:12 AM »
Watched The X-Files: I Want to Believe. This wasn’t nearly as bad as I was lead to believe. It’s not great and a little long, but it’s better than most of the eps from the last couple of seasons.
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« Reply #28692 on: December 29, 2017, 12:32:26 AM »
Want to catch a flick tomorrow but I'm sort of indifferent to what's out. Leaning towards Darkest Hour just to see Gary Oldman actually put in work. I'm afraid The Shape of Water will bore me.

I love how GDT is consciously stretching himself with each film even as their still very much distinctly his, and also despite his wildly varying commercial fortunes/and as such resources, his films don't really ever feel creatively constrained. I loved Crimson Peak, but The Shape of Water may be even better. A wonderfully oddball blast of creativity that is unlike anything else he's ever made (its lightly comedic, social issue grappling, sexual frankness), while still being something exactly like what he's made (Lovecraft callbacks). Its tone is also different from any other Del Toro joint, its European if that makes sense (one can easily imagine in French), while also being distinctly American in its content. I could spend many more paragraphs analyzing the whole damn thing, but I'd rather just gush about it. Its got one of the best cast ensembles of the year, despite the capital 'M' melodrama it still feels somewhat grounded, and its refreshingly adult for a straight up fantasy film. I wish all Oscar bait movies would be this loveably weird and entertaining.

Fuck. I think ill catch it now.
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« Reply #28693 on: December 29, 2017, 01:31:48 AM »
Want to catch a flick tomorrow but I'm sort of indifferent to what's out. Leaning towards Darkest Hour just to see Gary Oldman actually put in work. I'm afraid The Shape of Water will bore me.

I love how GDT is consciously stretching himself with each film even as their still very much distinctly his, and also despite his wildly varying commercial fortunes/and as such resources, his films don't really ever feel creatively constrained. I loved Crimson Peak, but The Shape of Water may be even better. A wonderfully oddball blast of creativity that is unlike anything else he's ever made (its lightly comedic, social issue grappling, sexual frankness), while still being something exactly like what he's made (Lovecraft callbacks). Its tone is also different from any other Del Toro joint, its European if that makes sense (one can easily imagine in French), while also being distinctly American in its content. I could spend many more paragraphs analyzing the whole damn thing, but I'd rather just gush about it. Its got one of the best cast ensembles of the year, despite the capital 'M' melodrama it still feels somewhat grounded, and its refreshingly adult for a straight up fantasy film. I wish all Oscar bait movies would be this loveably weird and entertaining.

Fuck. I think ill catch it now.

Come see it with me this weekend, you beautiful baby-eyed bitch. After the movie, I’ll be all like this guy all over your asshole:



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« Reply #28694 on: December 29, 2017, 02:44:42 AM »
Sorta disappointing that Denis Villeneuve doesnt want to do deleted scenes or the 4 hour assembly cut, or any sort of directors/extended cut but I understand it. Still getting the blu ray next week so I can watch it again at home :hyper

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« Reply #28695 on: December 29, 2017, 08:44:33 AM »
Finally got around to watching Get Out (and alternate ending) and have no clue why this got so much praise as a Horror film? The alternate ending was probably the better ending for what the movie was trying to create. White people are evil, police are evil, etc, etc. Love Key and Peele but do not get the praise for Peele's directing in this. The hypnotic scenes where laughable at best.

But where was the Horror? The only thing remotely scary was the first scene? That is it. Would rather watch Rob Zombie remake Halloween 3. Season of the Sheri Moon.



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« Reply #28696 on: December 29, 2017, 08:48:34 AM »
Did it really get praise on the horror elements?  I thought its praise was mostly based on the good writing, humor and social commentary.  I'd agree that it was horribly lacking in actual horror.

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« Reply #28697 on: December 29, 2017, 09:02:51 AM »
Yeah, a lot of sites referred to it as a great horror experience, which was the only reason I watched it. Already knew racism was the crux of the movie but I wanted to see what was so great about how they implemented the Horror aspect into it. The writing for the racial aspects were fine but the writing of actual Horror was not.

Just a quick example, the site below calls it a "horror masterpiece."  To me, and I could be completely wrong but to call something a Masterpiece and having Horror in the same sentence, would imply there be some quality of said Horror. I found this time after time scrolling through the RT reviews after I finished the film.

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/12/get-out-hypnosis-scene-sunken-place/547409/

The Atlantic looks back on the key film moments of 2017, starting with Jordan Peele’s subversive horror masterpiece.

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« Reply #28698 on: December 29, 2017, 09:06:10 AM »
 ???

Yeah that I don't get.  I'd never recommend it as a horror movie. 

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« Reply #28699 on: December 29, 2017, 05:51:27 PM »
Watched The Last Boyscout and Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets


Had never seen the Last Boyscout although I knew Shane Black was involved with the script in some capacity. I remember when it originally came out it seemed like a movie that was 5 years too late.

Watching it now it feels equally odd as a movie that documents a particular point in time where ugliness and assholeishness were in vogue and put forth as cool. That's embodied in the two leads Willis and Wayans who spend the entire movie making unfunny quips too each other.

It has neither the raw talent and perfect casting of 48 hours nor the charm and folksiness of the Lethal Weapon movies. It's just kind of an ugly nasty relic of its time. Yuck.

Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets reminds me of The Fifth Element not only because its beautiful, not only because Luc Besson directed both, but because like that film I want to like Valerian but I don't actually think its a very good movie.

It's beautiful, its stylish, it has colorful art design and colorful aliens. I just don't think its a cohesive well plotted movie. It's like watching a pretty videogame. I'm more driven to continue watching to see what is the next visual delight rather than what actually is going to happen plot-wise.

It does make me slightly interested in checking out the French Comic it was based on. Maybe this would have made a better TV show than a movie.
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« Reply #28700 on: December 29, 2017, 06:35:10 PM »
Yeah, I feel that way about Fifth Element frequently as well: I love the visuals, I enjoy watching it… and yet it's lacking some things that make a movie gel, and it includes a bunch of stuff that Just Doesn't Work (subjective). I own it, I watch it sometimes, but rarely do I sit through a straight viewing.

Also, same feelings on The Last Boy Scout. It felt dated even at the time. I think Shane let hollywood get to his head, and I'm happier with his more recent stuff like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and The Nice Guys.

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« Reply #28701 on: December 29, 2017, 08:55:19 PM »
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets reminds me of The Fifth Element not only because its beautiful, not only because Luc Besson directed both, but because like that film I want to like Valerian but I don't actually think its a very good movie.

It's beautiful, its stylish, it has colorful art design and colorful aliens. I just don't think its a cohesive well plotted movie. It's like watching a pretty videogame. I'm more driven to continue watching to see what is the next visual delight rather than what actually is going to happen plot-wise.

It does make me slightly interested in checking out the French Comic it was based on. Maybe this would have made a better TV show than a movie.
I just watched this too and agree about it being hard to recommend to normies due to 'suffering' from whatever the cinematic equivalent of Eurojank would be and not really coming together as something "good." The CG isn't particularly great and it does feel like a videogame for a lot of the action scenes, but there is a virtue to watching something big and different that didn't come out of the Hollywood tentpole meat grinder even though it misses its mark for a lot of it.

Oh, and it has one of the best scifi openings I've seen in forever that is surprisingly thoughtful and justifies the use of Space Oddity. I'd say it's worth watching the movie just for this, but it's on Youtube and literally starts the movies so that's a little bit of a stretch.

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« Reply #28702 on: December 29, 2017, 09:20:06 PM »
Bright partial way commentary but this movie got way more negative criticism than it deserved. Yeah the initial and running social commentary is dumb as fuck and whatever person, whether it was in the original scrip or rewrites, should be hung up by their nuts or vag (but lets be honest, its someone's nuts). But if the film had just dropped us on this odd buddy cop pairing amd let the viewer suss out the social structure it would have been a much better setup. Outside of that the premise is keeping me interested and the villain isncold blooded as fuck to the point of being surprising.
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« Reply #28703 on: December 29, 2017, 09:27:46 PM »
Reportedly, they wanted Bowie to play the Leto role, but he was already sick at that point. He would've been so good.

Honestly, I thought all the establishing scenes showing the Evil Corporation doing evil things were needless. Their motivations were better off left implied.
bowie would have probably been more distracting, and feels like a 'fan casting' selection... really anyone could have played this role, and I would have rather it gone to a rando/lesser known, anyway.
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« Reply #28704 on: December 29, 2017, 09:29:23 PM »
Aaron Sorkin tries two new tricks with Molly's Game, he's got a female lead, and he's directing the damn thing himself. But for a guy with such a recognizable authorial voice, being reined in by the sharp dramatic instincts of lets say Rob Reiner or all people never actually did a disservice to his vision, and no matter how distinct people in his films may be they're always part of that same morass of collective identity of Sorkin-ness. I'm actually not down on the guy, exactly, but its my belief that his best work depends on somebody who can stop him before he tarnishes his own work. He actually shows a lot of promise as a director, and as a guy who hates poker (or at least poker worship, televised poker is always the worst thing on TV), there's some scenes I found riveting in this film. The cast is uniformly great, but its scattershot approach to its own character's biography means that some fascinating alleyways the film only glimpses at remain underdeveloped(its a 2 hour 20 minute movie that feels rushed). But very often, this sort episodic, 'anthology film' approach can also be pretty great, and for a life as varied as the subject here entirely appropriate. And I'm sure there's a bunch of actors who could have been just fine for the lead, but if this movie works at all its because Jessica Chastain somehow carries the weight of making an indomitable, brittle, driven, conniving yet principled person seem real, or at least real-ish.

So overall its good, but for some stretches its great, some its lousy. It all balences out eventually, but its the unlikely film that made me wish the suits had a little more sway in making it.

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« Reply #28705 on: December 29, 2017, 09:30:33 PM »
Reportedly, they wanted Bowie to play the Leto role, but he was already sick at that point. He would've been so good.

Honestly, I thought all the establishing scenes showing the Evil Corporation doing evil things were needless. Their motivations were better off left implied.
bowie would have probably been more distracting, and feels like a 'fan casting' selection... really anyone could have played this role, and I would have rather it gone to a rando/lesser known, anyway.

I honestly think Bowie would have played the role more subtle. Hitting the lack of humanity that Leto was trying oh so hard to convey. In both cases its one to one recognition otherwise.
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« Reply #28706 on: December 29, 2017, 09:49:21 PM »
implying that David Bowie is more talented than Jared Leto, I dunno man, that's something of a stretch.

also, re Valerian. It was the best theatrical 'Whoa, that's cool lookin' experiance I had all this year. I don't imagine it'll have the longer lasting impact that the more eccentric (but not by that much) The Fifth Element did simply because shrinking its stunning visages would neuter a lot of its appeal. But I did also very much take to its earnest kind of cornpone tone. Its sort of sunny optimism about the future is so out of sync with today's sci-fi that its refreshing. I suppose there's even some contemporary resonance to its aspirational tone, that humanity should be working together, that 'aliens' are never to be feared. I wish that message also hadn't been included with some casual sexism, but hey, baby steps.

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« Reply #28707 on: December 29, 2017, 09:54:06 PM »
implying that David Bowie is more talented than Jared Leto, I dunno man, that's something of a stretch.

I like Leto and he's accomplished as an actor but in this case , with this character, strange and detached would have been a good fit for Bowie. Unfortunately its probably an element of love for bowie and curiosity in seeing how he would have played the character. That aside I felt Leto was one of the weaker links in the film.
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« Reply #28708 on: December 29, 2017, 10:09:52 PM »
Jared Leto has (or at one point had) a coffin for a coffee table. He’s good people.
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« Reply #28709 on: December 29, 2017, 10:17:51 PM »
I just watched this too and agree about it being hard to recommend to normies due to 'suffering' from whatever the cinematic equivalent of Eurojank would be and not really coming together as something "good." The CG isn't particularly great and it does feel like a videogame for a lot of the action scenes, but there is a virtue to watching something big and different that didn't come out of the Hollywood tentpole meat grinder even though it misses its mark for a lot of it.

Oh, and it has one of the best scifi openings I've seen in forever that is surprisingly thoughtful and justifies the use of Space Oddity. I'd say it's worth watching the movie just for this, but it's on Youtube and literally starts the movies so that's a little bit of a stretch.



Yeah I would agree with this.

The movie also reminded me of Mass Effect alot. So I ended re-wishing there was a Mass Effect movie franchise after I was done.

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« Reply #28710 on: December 29, 2017, 10:22:04 PM »
I feel Leto has sucked something out of someone ass at some point for pleasure. That's all I need to vet him.
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« Reply #28711 on: December 29, 2017, 10:32:08 PM »
Watched The X-Files: I Want to Believe. This wasn’t nearly as bad as I was lead to believe. It’s not great and a little long, but it’s better than most of the eps from the last couple of seasons.

Yeah it's fine but obviously a let down after 6 years when the show ended the way it did and they bring it back just to make an extended MOTW episode that glossed over years of character development and story that would actually be interesting to know.
That was what I liked best about it. It really was like a feature length episode, ditching the mythology and focusing on the characters and this week's, um I mean this film's monster was a great idea. It was absolutely the wrong way to win new fans was to make an insular sort of film, but I felt well served by it.

I think of Jared Leto as the American equivalent of those pretty but vacuous male pop idols that heavily populate Asian cinema and will very often have prosperous acting careers despite the fact that they've got the charisma of damp plywood. Incidentally the fall of Hong Kong cinema corresponds to the rise in stature of Ekin Cheng and Edison Chen.

but hey, I liked Leto a lot in Panic Room, where he was playing a vacuous, try hard sort of in-over-his-head yuppie. So he's got some uses somewhere. And his 'work' has clearly never suffered for lack of effort.

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« Reply #28712 on: December 29, 2017, 10:35:00 PM »
Jared Leto has (or at one point had) a coffin for a coffee table. He’s good people.

No, that means he's an asshole who probably still shops at Hot Topic despite being closer to 50 than 40.

Where else is he supposed to get his Cody Rhodes merch?
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« Reply #28713 on: December 29, 2017, 10:58:33 PM »
I saw the Shape of Water over the break without knowing much about it other than it was highly praised and by Guillermo del Toro.

The movie ended up being a bit more explicit than I would have guessed (which made seeing it with my parents, aunt and uncle, younger brother and younger cousin a touch awkward) but it was a really good movie. A lot of good acting and really very little wasted screen or plot time.
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« Reply #28714 on: December 30, 2017, 02:49:20 AM »
Yeah, I feel that way about Fifth Element frequently as well: I love the visuals, I enjoy watching it… and yet it's lacking some things that make a movie gel, and it includes a bunch of stuff that Just Doesn't Work (subjective). I own it, I watch it sometimes, but rarely do I sit through a straight viewing.
Ok, but The Fifth Element has the best Chris Tucker scene of all time.

That scene is THE (secondmost) MAIN REASON I watch the film from time-to-time. (The first is Mila Jovovich before she gets strapped into the Gaultier.)

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« Reply #28715 on: December 30, 2017, 03:22:54 AM »
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I think of Jared Leto as the American equivalent of those pretty but vacuous male pop idols that heavily populate Asian cinema and will very often have prosperous acting careers despite the fact that they've got the charisma of damp plywood. Incidentally the fall of Hong Kong cinema corresponds to the rise in stature of Ekin Cheng and Edison Chen

I dunno if it's fair, because it didn't start with the decline that this industry heavily relied on pretty faces with cross media careers and not always the most competent acting chops but it's true that HK (and Japanese) cinema seems almost completely populated by them now with less variety (Simon Yam or Michelle Yeoh had something going on besides their look). Always had the suspicion it has to do with the film business contracting thus only focusing on the young adult demographic and only the most consensual, risk averse films. It happened to an extent in the West after TV made a huge dent in the business of getting people in theaters (or so I had the impression).
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« Reply #28716 on: December 30, 2017, 09:29:34 AM »
Well yes, I was being a bit glib and a bit unfair. As much as I'd like to blame Vaness Wu for everything wrong with the Hong Kong film industry, even if I believe he does bear some responsibility (that guy is only slightly less irritating than pepper spray). The reasons for some but not all of the Asian cinemas decline are varied and many. And after all, long ago David Bowie could have beenin that teeneybopper slot, and Andy Lau, Anita Mui, and Leslie Cheung are both from HK's golden era and I gots no complaints about seeing them on screen.

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Re: The new and improved "Movies you've seen recently" thread
« Reply #28717 on: December 30, 2017, 11:09:02 AM »
Jared Leto has (or at one point had) a coffin for a coffee table. He’s good people.

No, that means he's an asshole who probably still shops at Hot Topic despite being closer to 50 than 40.

Where else is he supposed to get his Cody Rhodes merch?

You know, I'm about 97% positive this fuckhead actually does own a Cody Rhodes Bullet Club shirt.
dunno about that but leto has worn enfants riches deprimes gear, which is the corniest tryhard rich kid nonsense fashion in the last decade.

plus fronting 30 seconds to mars which is straight :trash
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« Reply #28718 on: December 30, 2017, 01:44:51 PM »
Jared Leto is like a parody of the 'self absorbed, talentless hack' trope. He's like a Bojack Horseman character that got left on the cutting room floor for being too on-the-nose

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« Reply #28719 on: December 30, 2017, 02:40:08 PM »
Jared Leto has (or at one point had) a coffin for a coffee table. He’s good people.

No, that means he's an asshole who probably still shops at Hot Topic despite being closer to 50 than 40.

Where else is he supposed to get his Cody Rhodes merch?

You know, I'm about 97% positive this fuckhead actually does own a Cody Rhodes Bullet Club shirt.
enfants riches deprimes gear, which is the corniest tryhard rich kid nonsense fashion in the last decade.



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Re: The new and improved "Movies you've seen recently" thread
« Reply #28720 on: December 30, 2017, 02:57:01 PM »
I saw the Shape of Water over the break without knowing much about it other than it was highly praised and by Guillermo del Toro.

The movie ended up being a bit more explicit than I would have guessed (which made seeing it with my parents, aunt and uncle, younger brother and younger cousin a touch awkward) but it was a really good movie. A lot of good acting and really very little wasted screen or plot time.

The Shape of Water’s pacing makes TLJ seem like a 100 mile walk in quicksand.

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« Reply #28721 on: December 30, 2017, 03:02:43 PM »
Remember all that stuff from Suicide Squad talking about how Leto was so method that he was, like, sending dead mice to people and everybody was afraid of him? :heh
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Re: The new and improved "Movies you've seen recently" thread
« Reply #28722 on: December 30, 2017, 10:54:31 PM »
Lady Bird- terrible. Wasn't funny, wasn't relevant, just bad.
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri- hilarious. Some great performances here, i think someone will win an Oscar out of this cast.
I,Tonya- I was ready to not give Margot Robbie any credit. She was too hot for the role but she did great. Bravo to her.
Killing of a sacred deer- This was fucking out there. I liked the director's last movie "Lobster" better.
Justice League- I didn't even finish this turd. Fuck this was bad.

My favorite movies of the year ended up being Blade Runner 2049 and mother!.

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« Reply #28723 on: December 31, 2017, 12:43:43 AM »
Jumanji was better than it had any right to be. It’s not great or anything, but it’s good eatin’ for Rock fanboys. Jack Black is pretty fantastic in it. Better than TLJ easy.
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« Reply #28724 on: December 31, 2017, 12:47:13 AM »
You gonna make me go out and make eye contact with an indifferent teenager as I as ask for a single Jumanji ticket
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« Reply #28725 on: December 31, 2017, 12:49:11 AM »
I want to eat out The Rock’s ass so bad. He wouldn’t even have to buy me a baconator after.
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« Reply #28726 on: December 31, 2017, 01:35:58 AM »
Yeah, I feel that way about Fifth Element frequently as well: I love the visuals, I enjoy watching it… and yet it's lacking some things that make a movie gel, and it includes a bunch of stuff that Just Doesn't Work (subjective). I own it, I watch it sometimes, but rarely do I sit through a straight viewing.
Ok, but The Fifth Element has the best Chris Tucker scene of all time.


Chris Tucker’s finest hour.

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« Reply #28727 on: December 31, 2017, 03:12:49 AM »
Finally got We Need to Talk About Kevin off my to do list. Damn, that's a great movie. Rare to see a film.that's so psychologically rich, and Tilda Swenton just demolished her role. Great darn movie.

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« Reply #28728 on: December 31, 2017, 03:52:03 AM »
Finally got We Need to Talk About Kevin off my to do list. Damn, that's a great movie. Rare to see a film.that's so psychologically rich, and Tilda Swenton just demolished her role. Great darn movie.

John C. Reilly is fantastic in this, too.  He’s really one of the best, most versatile actors working today.
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« Reply #28729 on: December 31, 2017, 06:31:30 AM »
he really is. I hadn't seen him in a straight dramatic role for years and I was a bit worried his comic chops would taint the film, but he so effortlessly plays this relaxed, comfortable (albeit clueless) decent guy.

Also of note, this is a terrible film to watch if you're hoping to attain some sort of blissful sleep afterwards.

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« Reply #28730 on: December 31, 2017, 12:48:19 PM »
Finally got around to watching Get Out (and alternate ending) and have no clue why this got so much praise as a Horror film? The alternate ending was probably the better ending for what the movie was trying to create. White people are evil, police are evil, etc, etc. Love Key and Peele but do not get the praise for Peele's directing in this. The hypnotic scenes where laughable at best.

But where was the Horror? The only thing remotely scary was the first scene? That is it. Would rather watch Rob Zombie remake Halloween 3. Season of the Sheri Moon.

Finally saw it too... naturally I had to grin at the Canon product placement in it. But didn't find it at all scary or even very subversive. Enjoyed it nevertheless and it had its moments.
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« Reply #28731 on: January 01, 2018, 08:20:39 AM »

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« Reply #28732 on: January 01, 2018, 09:05:18 AM »
I'd been saving Netflix' Spectral for a rainy day. Now that I've finally seen it, I'm disappointed. The effects are pretty great. The enemies are interesting looking, and the military stuff felt mostly believable to a know-nothing civilian like me. But it doesn't come together well at all. There's no real pay off; it's a war movie that doesn't really make a statement about war. It seems like it's going to, several times, and then backs away from it repeatedly.

There is also some dialog that was clearly re-recorded and dubbed over the original dialog, and its sound envelope is substantially different than the other dialog in the same scene. It was distracting.

I really wanted to like this film, but didn't. Nearly stopped it several times, but realized I'd probably never watch it unless I saw it through.

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« Reply #28733 on: January 01, 2018, 11:34:55 AM »
Watched Wonder Women which I had never seen before.

First off I liked the movie overall. That being said my overriding feeling coming out of the movie is disappointment at what could have been. It's a movie that had the potential to be really great and escape the super hero genre confines that most of those movies live in and why I avoid the vast majority of them. It's the perfect example imo of a movie that would have been better 20 years ago without the desire/pressure to stick it in a connected universe or the necessity to live up to the conventions of what a modern super hero movie needs to be. Instead its just a good 2017 super hero flick that won't be timeless in a way I would have preferred.

The major problem is Ares and the need to have a super villain monster for the hero to fight in these movies. Ares should just be a metaphor for the fallibility of humans. There should be no big bad in this movie. Wonder Women should be the only super natural element for this particular story. When Wonder Women kills that general and the War doesn't stop, that is the emotional center of the movie and you build everything in the movie around that moment. Instead Ares is a metaphor for the fallibility of humans AND he is a big bad villain of a monster. What a sad complete undermining of the concept. That fight was so stupid and completely makes the parts of it attached to that plotline so dumb.

The emotional touchstone of that movie is her finding out that there is no big bad guy pulling the strings. Humans can just be awful. So it delivers that moment then, delivers a moment right behind it saying there is a big bad guy behind the scenes pulling the strings so let's kick his butt!

Awful writing. Just so awful and such a missed opportunity just to satiate the dumb audience who needs their but kicking action quota filled for a super hero movie and it drags down and dillutes the central idea of the movie. I was so angry and disappointed when they did that.

Otherwise I liked a lot of it. Wonder Women being a fish out of water character worked a lot better than I thought it would. She seemed more human and likable than Super Man generally comes across in the same exact type of plot mechanic. I'm not sure I think Gal Gadot is a good actress but she is perfect for this specific role and her interactions with Chris Pine are really good.

The band of brothers with the rest of the cast is a good idea that is mostly executed poorly but whatever. The movie rides on the shoulders of her and Pine and mostly works because of the chemistry of those two.

On a side note, not that it bothers me, because the action in super hero movies is generally the least interesting part of the movies to me, but the action stuff with wonder woman seemed pretty bad. It all looked liked video game cutscene stuff. All weightless with a oddly animated character jumping around and doing impossible things. I watch very few of these super hero movies (and this is the first DC one, I've ever watched) so maybe this is the standard of how the action looks in them but if that's the case its pretty janky. I mean I watched Logan and that had great physical action scenes so not sure what's up with the stuff in this movie. Like I said I don't really care though. Action scenes in super hero movies for me are just there as proof of concept to say yep, that person is a indeed a super-hero! I care more about the plotting and characterization and stuff unless the action is top notch.

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« Reply #28734 on: January 01, 2018, 01:47:33 PM »
Wonder Women is actually well ahead of the average cape movie in terms of action.

Something that's been deeply disappointing to me is just how terribly most superhero films depict their action scenes. Almost all of the Marvel films have underwhelming, only semi-competent action setpieces, despite having enormous budgets, long shooting schedules, and solid if not great 2nd unit and action directors (Winter Soldier being a significant exception). I mean, these friggin things are now the preeminent blockbusters of today, why the hell can't they shoot a fight scene at least as well as a contemporary and low budget Van Damme movie?

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« Reply #28735 on: January 01, 2018, 02:20:30 PM »
Until Fury Road showed up, it seemed like most mainstream filmmakers had completely forgotten how to shoot action coherently and without relying on a million cuts.

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« Reply #28736 on: January 01, 2018, 02:42:18 PM »
eh Kingsman used longshots with hidden cuts for some spectacular action scenes

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« Reply #28737 on: January 01, 2018, 03:30:34 PM »
Toku said most, not all.

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« Reply #28738 on: January 01, 2018, 05:22:09 PM »
Watched 1984 film adaptation of 1984. I liked it but there's no denying the pacing & story beats are fairly loose. Editing abuses cross-fades within what look like continuous sequences, a common symptom when a film isn't constructed quite right. While the visuals are good, it does seem at times the budget was not up to the movie needs. Overall, one easily see why it ended up being shadowed significantly by Gilliam's Brazil which also is much more energetic though no less nightmarish. 1984 is 100% commited to be faithfully as bleak, desperate as the book so it's probably not for everyone or for anytime. John Hurt is excellent however.
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« Reply #28739 on: January 02, 2018, 01:35:40 AM »
I, Tonya was pretty enjoyable. It brings enough to the table to justify itself in the wake of the awesome recent 30 for 30 - it dives into her relationships with her mother and husband a lot more - though some of the stylistic choices kind of bugged me. I don't totally hate fourth-wall breaking narration, but enough with the "this character really did this" thing already. Allison Janney was awesome, and Bobby Cannavale plays a Dateline producer for some reason.

I can't really figure out a reason for The Disaster Artist to exist other than because James Franco wanted to do a Tommy Wiseau for an hour and a half and give half of the Earwolf roster bit roles. There's no real insight or angle to it, it just seems to be a retelling of how the movie came into existence without exploring anything interesting with any of the characters beyond minor confrontations that are solved almost immediately. There's nothing wrong with just telling a story, but the story here basically boils down to 'a very un-self-aware weirdo made a shitty movie' which is easily gleaned from watching five minutes of The Room itself.