Author Topic: Official Game of Thrones (HBO) thread (Read 113501 times)

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #600 on:** June 15, 2011, 12:15:03 PM »

The mad king was a Targaryen.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #601 on:** June 15, 2011, 12:30:45 PM »

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on June 15, 2011, 11:58:11 AM

Quote from: Linkzg on June 15, 2011, 11:49:08 AM
do they ever get into the past of the series? because I'm a bit confused about how things went down

like, how did Robert (?) become King when Jamie killed the previous one? sounds like the previous bloodline of white haired people, and the mad king (?) were all butchered. And Robert was a soldier with Ned, and some Starks were killed by the mad King or something?

Ya the mad king killed Neds father and brother. His sister also died, who was Roberts love. Can't remember exactly why the rebellion started but it was because the mad king was mad. Robert became king because his family was the closest in blood to the old rulers.

It started because Ned's sister ran supposedly kidnapped by Rhaegaer (sp?) Targaryen, who was Daenarys' brother, and Ned's brother along with Robert started the war.

Spoilering speculation that's almost considered a given:

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she wasn't kidnapped but ran off with him instead, and Jon Snow is their child, not Ned's bastard

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Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #602 on:** June 15, 2011, 01:04:00 PM »

Quote from: Linkzg on June 15, 2011, 11:49:08 AM

do they ever get into the past of the series? because I'm a bit confused about how things went down

like, how did Robert (?) become King when Jamie killed the previous one? sounds like the previous bloodline of white haired people, and the mad king (?) were all butchered. And Robert was a soldier with Ned, and some Starks were killed by the mad King or something?

The spark of the war happened at a tourney when Rhaegar Targaryen, Dany and Visery's older brother, won the jousting tournament and gave the winner's rose to Lyanna Stark instead of his own wife. At the time Lyanna was betrothed to Robert Baratheon, and he was sitting in the audience.

Some time after that Lyanna disappeared from King's Landing, and word spread that Rhaegar had kidnapped her. When Brandon Stark, Ned's older brother, heard the news he rode to King's Landing with some men to demand his sister be returned. The Mad King arrested them all, then sent letters to the north demanding their fathers come to court and explain themselves. When they came, including Ned's father, they were tortured and killed, as were the sons. Afterwards the Mad King sent letters to the Erie demanding John Aryyn arrest Robert Baratheon and Ned Stark, and hand them over to King's Landing. Aryyn had fostered them both through childhood and refused, instead calling his banners. The Starks and Baratheons eventually called their own banners, and the civil war broke out.

The rebellion won and Robert, who was a distant cousin to the Targaryens, was proclaimed king.

edit: here's the history of it including battles, if you want. No spoilers for future books
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Robert%27s_Rebellion

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #603 on:** June 15, 2011, 07:56:42 PM »

I really want to know what Rhaegar knew. I love the mysterious aura that surrounds that character.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #604 on:** June 16, 2011, 08:28:46 AM »

I started reading Clash of Kings yesterday and I'm already pretty into it. The first Sansa chapter totally wasn't boring as shit!

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #605 on:** June 16, 2011, 11:00:28 AM »

I wonder how far the show will go in regards of how she's abused in King's Landing. We'll probably get a preview in ep10, but in ACOK she gets slapped around and shit. Dunno how having a 15-16 year old girl abused like that will play out on television.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #606 on:** June 16, 2011, 03:43:40 PM »

thanks for the spilers

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #607 on:** June 16, 2011, 03:51:32 PM »

It's not like he spoiled anything important like how she learns to transform into a dragon.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #608 on:** June 16, 2011, 04:08:46 PM »

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #609 on:** June 16, 2011, 04:41:46 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on June 16, 2011, 08:28:46 AM

I started reading Clash of Kings yesterday and I'm already pretty into it. The first Sansa chapter totally wasn't boring as shit!

I'm almost done with Clash of Kings. It started out reallly slow and boring, but man does it pick up.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #610 on:** June 17, 2011, 09:25:33 AM »

my weakness of following character based solely on names is really showing but i was able to connect who Joras Slynt was. I felt pretty good about myself when i googled his name and I confirmed he was the who I thought he was from the show.

Diunx · « **Reply #611 on:** June 17, 2011, 10:45:27 AM »

you mean Janos Slynt? it was pretty obvious who he was if you saw episode 7.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #612 on:** June 17, 2011, 01:26:12 PM »

I would welcome this plot twist.

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fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #613 on:** June 17, 2011, 01:52:27 PM »

Quote from: Diunx on June 17, 2011, 10:45:27 AM

you mean Janos Slynt? it was pretty obvious who he was if you saw episode 7.

pretty clear i'm bad with names.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #614 on:** June 17, 2011, 02:26:00 PM »

[youtube=560,345]4FpMUdteYBM[/youtube]

Could be one of the best finales ever, but I'm worried about something specific

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The dragons...given how average some of the CGI has been thus far, I'm not too enthusiastic right now. Sure the CGI backdrops have been great thus far; the Twins looked excellent last week for instance. But this is going to be a living CGI character (well characters). I really hope they don't do it exactly as in the book, with the dragons breast feeding from Dany. Even the best CGI couldn't make that NOT cheesy imo.

If the dragon looks like this

I won't be disappointed. That's from a 10 year old film.

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Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #615 on:** June 18, 2011, 08:04:30 PM »

Finished Clash of Kings, my copy of Storm of Swords should be here on Monday.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #616 on:** June 18, 2011, 10:15:02 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on June 18, 2011, 08:04:30 PM

Finished Clash of Kings, my copy of Storm of Swords should be here on Monday.

Oh boy, this is gonna be fun

Diunx · « **Reply #617 on:** June 18, 2011, 11:13:57 PM »

Less than a month for dance with dragons! Gonna pirate the audio book when it comes out to listen to it at work

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #618 on:** June 18, 2011, 11:45:50 PM »

Quote from: Wrath2X on June 18, 2011, 10:26:28 PM

So is this show any good?

yes, better than the books

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #619 on:** June 18, 2011, 11:47:56 PM »

lotsa titties and gore

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #620 on:** June 18, 2011, 11:55:41 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on June 18, 2011, 11:45:50 PM

Quote from: Wrath2X on June 18, 2011, 10:26:28 PM
So is this show any good?

yes, better than the books

The show is good, but it's not nearly as good as the books imo...

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #621 on:** June 18, 2011, 11:57:36 PM »

good thing you put "imo" there

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #622 on:** June 18, 2011, 11:57:45 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on June 18, 2011, 11:45:50 PM

Quote from: Wrath2X on June 18, 2011, 10:26:28 PM
So is this show any good?

yes, better than the books

The last 4 or 5 eps have me agreeing with you. Very surprised at that, but then Martin is a shitty writer so they had a head start

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #623 on:** June 19, 2011, 12:01:24 AM »

I can't stand Martin's overwrought prose style either, it's like writing for people who like the idea of "good writing" but have only heard about it secondhand and so aren't quite clear on what it is

Diunx · « **Reply #624 on:** June 19, 2011, 12:07:46 AM »

The show doesn't come even close to the books they cut some of the best parts from the books.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #625 on:** June 19, 2011, 12:15:56 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2011, 11:57:45 PM

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on June 18, 2011, 11:45:50 PM
Quote from: Wrath2X on June 18, 2011, 10:26:28 PM
So is this show any good?

yes, better than the books

The last 4 or 5 eps have me agreeing with you. Very surprised at that, but then Martin is a shitty writer so they had a head start

the fuck? who are you people

In some ways the show regurgitates the book's dialogue while handicapping the scope, both of its action and world building. I have no gripe with that; I realize a show couldn't possibly match the novel's scope with a $60 million budget, and years before the pilot came out we were told it would be more of a character driven drama than some balls-to-the-wall fantasy epic. But it makes it impossible to compare the show to the novel.

The writers have done a good job filling in blanks for new viewers like Etoilet, but there's so much else that's often missing or quickly glossed over. And I'm not a fan of some of the more ridiculous attempts to shoehorn exposition into scenes, using sex to distract viewers.

Regardless, the show is good, and the last few episodes have really seen it elevate to impressive heights. I must admit I almost teared up last week when Robb emerged from the Whispering Woods; seeing Catelyn's emotional reaction+that soaring music was a sight to behold. I've probably watched that scene 10 times. It doesn't happen like that in the novel, where things are more bittersweet. The show is full of good changes/improvements like that, but there are also ones I don't like

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #626 on:** June 19, 2011, 01:11:03 AM »

Well, he is a terrible prose stylist, and there is a fuckload of it to read. That's kind of a serious handicap. All the books do well is plot and character. That's plenty, but the show is doing a great job on those fronts too. Plus, it doesn't take forever to get where it's going.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #627 on:** June 19, 2011, 01:15:16 AM »

meh, not going to get riled up over e-hyperbolics

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #628 on:** June 19, 2011, 09:47:56 PM »

Yoren is perfect.

book 1 and early book 2 spoiler

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interesting that they grabbed stuff from early book 2 into the finale

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Diunx · « **Reply #629 on:** June 19, 2011, 09:52:24 PM »

lol how is that a spoiler?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #630 on:** June 19, 2011, 09:58:07 PM »

i dunno actually. i meant to go into specifics but didn't

but anyway. the CG dragons didn't suck really. it was about as good as you can expect.

cool breeze · « **Reply #631 on:** June 19, 2011, 10:00:45 PM »

episode ends with

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war ramping up. past the wall shenanigans. naked chick surviving with baby dragons.

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"returns spring 2012"

yeah, I'm not waiting.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #632 on:** June 20, 2011, 12:11:35 AM »

Just started on the west coast HD feed, can't wait to see how they handle the

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DRAGONS!!!

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Quote from: Phoenix Dark on June 18, 2011, 10:15:02 PM

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on June 18, 2011, 08:04:30 PM
Finished Clash of Kings, my copy of Storm of Swords should be here on Monday.

Oh boy, this is gonna be fun

Clash of Kings discussion below:
Wow, I can't believe that

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Winterfell is totally burned to the ground! I got a strong Empire Strikes Back feeling at the end when the Stark boys split up...

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Gonna start SoS right away, then move on to Feast for Crows so I'm ready for Dance with Dragons on release day.

Bebpo · « **Reply #633 on:** June 20, 2011, 12:13:34 AM »

Great ep.

Good epilogue for a story that didn't have a conclusion

Did a nice job wrapping things up following what happened at the end of last ep. Season 2 seems like it should be awesome.

Going to start reading the books once I finish up the book I'm currently reading. By the time season 2 airs I can probably get through at least the first 2 books, if not the first 3.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #634 on:** June 20, 2011, 12:54:16 AM »

Holy shit @ the finale. They fucking nailed it. I went in with a host of reservations and fears, some of which I had since the show was in development, but the creative team put them all to rest tonight. Definitely one of the best season finales I've seen.

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I can't help but think back to the day when Catelyn was recast, and how many of us freaked out over her appearance. The actress has been wonderful all season, with tonight being damn impressive and heartbreaking. The mixture of sadness and rage on her face tonight was quite stunning. That emotional tension flowed through the rest of the episode as each actor and actress turned in great performances.

I'm quite impressed with how many of my favorite scenes from the end of the book were portrayed. The King of the North was quite impressive, although I didn't like the change in Catelyn's reaction; it's my favorite moment out of the book series, and overall I thought they did a damn good job. Tywin's scene with Tyrion was great; Dinklage has been amazing all season, and Charles Dance was quite a welcome addition to the second half of the season. Finally, the dragon scene was done perfectly. The dragons looked pretty damn good; I had feared they would look cheesy. Damn Dany was perfectly cast.

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Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #635 on:** June 20, 2011, 12:57:16 AM »

NAILED IT, BITCHES!

Wow, they did a great job with the reveal of the little ones.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #636 on:** June 20, 2011, 01:28:28 AM »

holy shit apparently in the credits, they list
spoiler for book 2 and 4, gtfo:

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the actor who played Syrio as being Jaquen in the episode haha. Nice nod to the fans/conspiracy theories. I got nerd chills seeing those three locked up

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Human Snorenado · « **Reply #637 on:** June 20, 2011, 01:50:43 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on June 18, 2011, 11:55:41 PM

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on June 18, 2011, 11:45:50 PM
Quote from: Wrath2X on June 18, 2011, 10:26:28 PM
So is this show any good?

yes, better than the books

The show is good, but it's not nearly as good as the books imo...

needs more pedo, amirite???

etiolate · « **Reply #638 on:** June 20, 2011, 03:36:36 AM »

nice finale

Dany has been awesome and redeemed was what was the most boring part of the previous episode.

Though everything right now hinges on a character turn for prince bratty and that kind of frowns me. His character feels like a heel turn instead of a natural product right now.

Diunx · « **Reply #639 on:** June 20, 2011, 09:47:09 AM »

Man they ripped out all the emotion from the scene where rickon and bran find out about ned's dead, other than that it was pretty good, for a second there I thought we were going to get a look at Jaquen

brob · « **Reply #640 on:** June 20, 2011, 01:30:38 PM »

very enjoyable finale! Still enjoying all the storylines, although the crippled kid and his assy kid-brother could get annoying I suppose. Will probably be reading the books over the summer if I can get a hold of my brother's library card (as mine was blacklisted :'( )

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #641 on:** June 20, 2011, 01:47:51 PM »

anyone with hbo go wanna please let me use their account for a bit? i wanna try it on my phone.

plz

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #642 on:** June 20, 2011, 02:29:15 PM »

I've already given my info out to two friends. Sorry.

Diunx · « **Reply #643 on:** June 20, 2011, 03:20:02 PM »

Just watched it again and I noticed that there was no red comet $:-\$

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #644 on:** June 20, 2011, 03:20:44 PM »

Quote from: Diunx on June 20, 2011, 03:20:02 PM

Just watched it again and I noticed that there was no red comet $:-\$

I think that'll be one of the things they touch on in the start of the second season. Great opener for a world that now has Dragons.

Diunx · « **Reply #645 on:** June 20, 2011, 03:28:08 PM »

But it appeared the same night the dragons were born which is why Danny believes that the comet is a sign from the gods, it won't have the same impact now.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #646 on:** June 20, 2011, 03:44:32 PM »

The comet doesn't show up until CoK, right? I don't remember it in Game of Thrones at all. It will be just fine if it's not mentioned until next season.

Diunx · « **Reply #647 on:** June 20, 2011, 05:02:05 PM »

The comet appeared just before the dragons were born, it just seems weird to me they would let that out but add that useless scene with picelle and one with littlefinger and varys that gave me a fealing of deja vu.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #648 on:** June 20, 2011, 05:08:51 PM »

I loved that Varys/Littlefinger scene. The Prycelle one was good too; it was fun seeing him pretend to be a feeble old man in front of Ros, who must be a spy for Littlefinger. But I feel that scene could have been placed in S2 instead.

We'll see the comet in S2 so I'm not worried.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #649 on:** June 21, 2011, 08:04:44 AM »

Book 2 spoilers:

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Tyrion's storyline. The chapter where he sends the Lannister guard to escort Frey back to Robb then he accosts Pycelle about betraying his trust and accusing him of killing Jon Arryn. Man that scene right there the culmination of some good as storytelling. When Tyrion is going on saying how he told Varys one thing, Littlefinger another thing and Pycelle the truth yet Cersei somehow knew of the truth my mind was racing trying to remember the previous chapters. I spent a good amount of time trying to focus my attention and remember things because I knew they're going to be important but man I didn't catch that he was telling them different things. BUT! I Did catch that he saw the Tears of Lys in his collection and I remembered that someone.... (Pycelle himself?) suggested that tears of lys may have been the poison. I called that he was involved right then and there so. The stuff a little earlier about the reveal that Bronn has been looking for a thief, a poisoner, a mummer and a murder was kinda lost on me. I know that Bronn has been recruiting sellswords but that kind of blind reveal went right over my head.

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I eagerly await next season. shit's gonna be so cash

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #650 on:** June 21, 2011, 11:03:10 AM »

Oh hell yes. Tyrion v Varys v Littlefinger v Cersei=epic shit all season. The King's Landing scenes were kind of hit and miss in S1, at least initially. There going to be full of fireworks all through S2

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #651 on:** June 21, 2011, 12:33:02 PM »

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After a relatively average launch of 2.2 million viewers, Thrones continued to edge higher in the ratings all season. With its season finale, Thrones hit a number HBO has been targeting: 3 million viewers. Adding the show’s repeat at 11 p.m., a total of 3.9 million viewers tuned in. The show continues to average 8.3 million viewers when you include all repeats, DVR and On Demand viewing.

Guess those readers pledging they would stop watching after Episode 9′s shocking event couldn’t stay away?

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And in the UK, Digital Spy reports that the episode drew 667k viewers on Sky Atlantic, to end up as the second highest episode to date (the premiere delivered 743k). The UK numbers have been up-and-down all season, so I never know what to make of them, but the good news is even the lows have been higher than just about every other Sky Atlantic show.

http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/06/season-finale-sets-a-ratings-high/

Impressive ratings growth all season. After such an amazing finale and DVD sales next year, S2's debut could be very big. Although I do hope HBO decides to release the DVD this holiday season, which would break tradition; Boardwalk Empire just came out on DVD iirc

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #652 on:** June 21, 2011, 12:33:38 PM »

Can't wait to see Ros on Blu-ray

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #653 on:** June 21, 2011, 12:42:48 PM »

$:-\$

I wouldn't want to see those freckles in HD, or irl.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #654 on:** June 21, 2011, 12:45:38 PM »

Usually not my type but she won me over by showing off her tits in every other episode

Diunx · « **Reply #655 on:** June 21, 2011, 01:15:41 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on June 21, 2011, 12:42:48 PM

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I wouldn't want to see those freckles in HD, or irl.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #656 on:** June 21, 2011, 01:32:09 PM »

I can only imagine PD seeing a naked girl irl. EWW WHAT ARE THESE BLEMISHES

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #657 on:** June 21, 2011, 02:00:37 PM »

And the girl responds "Those are my nipples!"

brob · « **Reply #658 on:** June 21, 2011, 10:52:30 PM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #659 on:** June 22, 2011, 02:23:31 AM »

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Author Topic: Official Game of Thrones (HBO) thread (Read 113501 times)