NPD DAY!!!

[Don Flamenco]

I'm thinking of getting a stand alone br player.  are those $199 or less yet?

[Tabasco]

I was talking to a buddy of my in the biz, and I guess most studios are REALLY nervous.  Supposedly 3 or 4 publisher might not make it through next year

wii and wow and jew bankers killed gaming

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Most private industries are going to take a beating here in the next fiscal year.

[Joe Molotov]

Fallout, well, supposedly this was going to be huge, it was gonna really be selling like hotcakes, and apparently it isn't, so while it ain't a bomba, i don't think it's doing as good as some thought.

Bethesda said Fallout 3 only sold 4.7 Million units worldwide during it's first week. Clearly a failure.

[Purple Filth]

just reached in to see the carnage

360 - good job

ps3- holy fucking shit, price drop is needed but they are basically in the shoes MS was some time ago (decent to crappy hardware sales, heading to the black)

Wii - WOW now thats fucking crazy.

[Bildi]

I'm thinking of getting a stand alone br player.  are those $199 or less yet?

I briefly toyed with the idea a few weeks ago, but was put off because almost no players on the market that can access the new features of the still-being-updated blu ray format. Whether they will or can be updated in the future is uncertain. 

Virtually the only thing that's up to date is the PS3 because it's software can be updated easily.

[WrikaWrek]

Fallout, well, supposedly this was going to be huge, it was gonna really be selling like hotcakes, and apparently it isn't, so while it ain't a bomba, i don't think it's doing as good as some thought.

Bethesda said Fallout 3 only sold 4.7 Million units worldwide during it's first week. Clearly a failure.

Clearly shipped.

And it's clear those 4.7 million units will be sitting idle for a long ass fucking time in store shelves allover the world. Clearly, the expectation of demand was MUCH higher from retailers part.

You will be seeing tons of Fallout 3 copies in the 5$ cart in the future i'm sure.

[Eel O'Brian]

 

[y2kev]

I was talking to a buddy of my in the biz, and I guess most studios are REALLY nervous.  Supposedly 3 or 4 publisher might not make it through next year

wii and wow and jew bankers killed gaming

major publishers? any ideas who?

[fistfulofmetal]

major publishers? any ideas who?

I hear Nintendo is in dire straits.

[Rman]

How is R2 a bomb?  300k is very respectable.

[Tabasco]

I didn't get specific names, but was told it's big ones we've heard of.  We all know Eidos is toast, and I kinda sorta worry for THQ/Take2.

It's really the developers who are in immediate trouble.  Everything is in limbo I guess.  Really bad times

[fistfulofmetal]

How is R2 a bomb?  300k is very respectable.

It's like if MGS4 had only sold 300k. It's the sequel to one of the best PS3 exclusives. A lot of people have been exposed to it.
And it's gotten good reviews. The realistic expectations of this game are much higher than it actually performed.

[y2kev]

How many independent developers are really left to be in danger?

[WrikaWrek]

I'm sure the recession is killing these publishers, but i also am fairly sure that they will just be either bought or replaced by new publishers belonging to a bigger company.

Like warner and stuff like that.

[demi]

Just chiming in that yes tons of people are extremely nervous about their jobs

Which helps in my line of work

[Joe Molotov]

Suicide hotline?

[demi]

Close

[y2kev]

must be a headhunter

[Tabasco]

How many independent developers are really left to be in danger?

It's more like teams on games at big studios who may not get to finish games.  Aagain I don't know particulars, so as a for instance, EA will kill WAR and tell Criterion they need to stop on their non-Burnout game.  THQ will tell Relic there aren't any marketing dollars left for Warhammer.  So less sales/less royalties, then THQ comes back and says they can't sustain Relic's burn rate.  Same with the Skate2/EA team.

These are just examples I was given to illustrate the point.

[Don Flamenco]

he's a psychologist

[demi]

Don't pester the insider. Remember who gives the exclusivos. All I'm sayin.

[Oblivion]

Just chiming in that yes tons of people are extremely nervous about their jobs

Which helps in my line of work

Wha? I thought you didn't do that anymore?

[y2kev]

How many independent developers are really left to be in danger?

It's more like teams on games at big studios who may not get to finish games.  Aagain I don't know particulars, so as a for instance, EA will kill WAR and tell Criterion they need to stop on their non-Burnout game.  THQ will tell Relic there aren't any marketing dollars left for Warhammer.  So less sales/less royalties, then THQ comes back and says they can't sustain Relic's burn rate.  Same with the Skate2/EA team.

These are just examples I was given to illustrate the point.

Oh

EA is really going to kill warhammer online? I thought it was successful...I guess it must be particularly bad if teams on successful projects are going to be downsized. You'd figure they'd just trim the teams that aren't hacking it (like EA chicago got axed), but Skate was a big success I thought.

[demi]

Nah, they are gonna squeeze out an XPac

[Eel O'Brian]

this is just me talking out of my ass, but from what i'm reading it seems like ea is getting hot for the "free to play, microtransactions out the ass" type of mmo, with bf heroes, and there's hints that star wars might follow a similar model

[y2kev]

Is BF HEROES EVEN OUT

how is that making any money at all

[Tabasco]

How many independent developers are really left to be in danger?

It's more like teams on games at big studios who may not get to finish games.  Aagain I don't know particulars, so as a for instance, EA will kill WAR and tell Criterion they need to stop on their non-Burnout game.  THQ will tell Relic there aren't any marketing dollars left for Warhammer.  So less sales/less royalties, then THQ comes back and says they can't sustain Relic's burn rate.  Same with the Skate2/EA team.

These are just examples I was given to illustrate the point.

Oh

EA is really going to kill warhammer online? I thought it was successful...I guess it must be particularly bad if teams on successful projects are going to be downsized. You'd figure they'd just trim the teams that aren't hacking it (like EA chicago got axed), but Skate was a big success I thought.

No no no I used those names as an example.  I should have said theoretically.  That would be the thinking.  EA in particular will have some tough choices ahead.  WAR and Spore are well behind expectations.

[Eel O'Brian]

Is BF HEROES EVEN OUT

how is that making any money at all

i meant for next year

but of course you knew that

[Brehvolution]

lol SONY smh

spoiler (click to show/hide)

am I doing it rite?

[close]

[y2kev]

No, I'm serious! It's been in beta for an incredibly long time and we haven't heard anything on it for a while. I don't see how a game like that could possibly make money

edit: What were the expectations for spore? Like 4 million? Time to start working on a console version...

[Eel O'Brian]

supposedly they postponed it to add more "social networking" features

they talk a bunch of shit about never charging for maps or weapons, and only charging for character customization, but i bet you'll pay for maps before it's all over

i think they can make money from it, a decent amount at least

[Eel O'Brian]

i wonder if dcu online will end up getting canned

[Tabasco]

yeah, i hear at EA they are basically having rolling cuts so you never know who is going to go next , month on month.

Not that that's any different to other industries really

welcome to end times.

Again, I don't know particulars . . .

But what the hell will happen at EALA?  That Tibirium game got canned.  Medal of Honor is dead.  Do the Read Alerts and C&Cs bring in money?

I feel bad now for making that snarky Sony thread.  I was just wanting to poke fun at Sony fans on another forum.  I will leave the meanness to the experts.

"i wonder if dcu online will end up getting canned"

I don't think there's room in the MMO space for anything but WoW.  At least until someone can figure out an FPSMMO

[Tabasco]

http://pc.ign.com/articles/937/937870p1.html?RSSwhen2008-12-11_170700

Disney buying EA would be terrible.  God they over-payed for Bioware.

[y2kev]

Would it be really bad for games or just for business? I thought Disney was really trying to be a good publisher?

[drew]

Close

drug dealer

[Tabasco]

Would it be really bad for games or just for business? I thought Disney was really trying to be a good publisher?

I guess I'm being a negative Nancy.  All I can see right now are 14 Jonas Brothers/Miley Cyrus games a year, leading on Wii ported up to 360/PS3.

[maxy]

Just seen the numbers....BOMBA

Wii didn't surprise me much,it was doing 700k in the slowest months of the year,Nintendo won the jackpot,haters can only cry.
Xboat is steady,software doing great,third parties are very happy with it.

PS3,what to say,no words for both hardware and software,no wonder that Sony has been hyping 2009,10 games like crazy lately,hope

[AdmiralViscen]

What is Sony coming out with in 09? Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Infamous and?

[Bocsius]

Secret PS3 game.

[Van Cruncheon]

well, gaming had a good run

if deference to this moribund industry, i suggest we abandon this forum and create a new one dedicated to whatever hobby will replace gaming for us, like drinking to excess, botched suicide attempts, rough gay sex in interstate rest stops, and/or furry fandom.

[Cheebs]

Damn, PS3 is in worse spot than I thought. Even the fucking joke that was the GameCube was having much better november sales at this point in it's life time.


I still use mine everyday as my main dvd/blu-ray player at least. 

[WrikaWrek]

well, gaming had a good run

if deference to this moribund industry, i suggest we abandon this forum and create a new one dedicated to whatever hobby will replace gaming for us, like drinking to excess, botched suicide attempts, rough gay sex in interstate rest stops, and/or furry fandom.

Meh, i'll just go back to watching Movies/T.V series/Talk shows and shit. I almost don't watch T.V due to it so, back to the old days.

[demi]

I still use mine

you FUCKING BITCH

[duckman2000]

What is Sony coming out with in 09? Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Infamous and?

MAG. I hope, although if there is one known Sony game that I could see getting the swift ax, that would be the one. Sounds a bit ambitious. Next generation is going to be all about 8 player online. 

[Bocsius]

Damn, PS3 is in worse spot than I thought. Even the joke that was the GameCube was having much better november sales at this point in it's life time.


I still use mine everyday as my main dvd/blu-ray player at least. 

To be fair, GameCube was $99 at this point in the generation. (Not that it's supposed to make PS3 numbers look better, because it doesn't.)

[Eel O'Brian]

i'm having a blast this gen, personally

playing more games now than i ever did at any other point in my life

[WrikaWrek]

MAG just sounds like one of those "Too early for the concept" type of games.

I'm dying for Heavy Rain, Infamous, Killzone 2, Alan Wake...they can ditch every game and turn into a Party game with a peripheral for all i care, after i have those.

i'm having a blast this gen, personally

playing more games now than i ever did at any other point in my life

Funny, me too, i like, never finished so many games before.

[duckman2000]

MAG just sounds like one of those "Too early for the concept" type of games.

I don't know about that, though. Joint Operations is pretty old by now, and no one has really bothered with taking up where they left off. It doesn't sound particularly impossible, but I can see the whole thing failing due to lack of player dedication.

Then again, I don't know much about Zipper.

[Eel O'Brian]

Is MoH really dead?  Did MoH Airborne sell that poorly?

[WrikaWrek]

It's so stupid the whole Medal of Honor situation. I mean, after all those WW2 games you would think they would finally make the jump to a "modern" setting, but they came out with Airborne. Tough luck.

They can still revive imo, but they would have to come swinging with some shit as big as COD4.

[demi]

It's so stupid the whole Medal of Honor situation. I mean, after all those WW2 games you would think they would finally make the jump to a "modern" setting, but they came out with Airborne. Tough luck.

They can still revive imo, but they would have to come swinging with some shit as big as COD4.

but World At War did WW2 again and look how that turned out

[Eel O'Brian]

i dunno, i liked airborne a lot

it had a great cover system, and i liked the whole "drop zone" way of entering the levels

everyone complains about WWII, but i bet if we did a count of fps games released this gen "modern" settings would outnumber the WWII about 3 to 1

[WrikaWrek]

It's so stupid the whole Medal of Honor situation. I mean, after all those WW2 games you would think they would finally make the jump to a "modern" setting, but they came out with Airborne. Tough luck.

They can still revive imo, but they would have to come swinging with some shit as big as COD4.

but World At War did WW2 again and look how that turned out

Well i was expecting somebody to say that when i was writing it, but fact is World at War came after COD4. People just went for the next COD title, independently of being modern or not. But if they released COD ww next year again, i don't know if it would slide well.

Fact is, COD4 really made COD big. And Medal Of Honor needed a modern setting game, too bad. Medal of Honor sounds better than Call of Duty.

[siamesedreamer]

i'm having a blast this gen, personally

playing more games now than i ever did at any other point in my life

Word. I've somehow been able to keep my wife in the dark about how much I've spent in the last 6 weeks.

I have absolutely no desire to buy a PS3 or a Wii and I don't see how that will ever change though. But, I would like to re-buy a GC to play Zelda Twilight Princess.

[CHOW CHOW]

Anyone know how much the best fighter of this gen sold (MK vs. DC Universe)?

[AdmiralViscen]

They'd better come out with Twisted Metal Something and God of War 3 next year, and throw in an ICO game, PS3 redeemed

[WrikaWrek]

That game sucks Chow Chow. Seriously.

[CHOW CHOW]

Shut your filthy xfag mouth up.  Don't ever address me again.