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« Reply #1260 on: February 12, 2009, 05:10:45 PM »
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About half-way through President Obama's press conference Monday night, he
had an unscripted question of his own. "All, Chuck Todd," the President
said, referring to NBC's White House correspondent. "Where's Chuck?" He had
the same strange question about Fox News's Major Garrett: "Where's Major?"

The problem wasn't the lighting in the East Room. The President was running
down a list of reporters preselected to ask questions. The White House had
decided in advance who would be allowed to question the President and who
was left out.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123431418276770899.html
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« Reply #1261 on: February 12, 2009, 05:17:39 PM »
That's par for the course, though.
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« Reply #1262 on: February 12, 2009, 05:40:25 PM »
The TPM thing is weird.

http://www.whistleblower.org/content/press_detail.cfm?press_id=1161

Why would she sponsor that, but want it taken out for the stimulus? Something isn't adding up.

a fat halliburton check
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« Reply #1263 on: February 12, 2009, 05:56:44 PM »
WSJ article about press conferences owned:
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However, one line stood out with critics: “We doubt that President Bush, who was notorious for being parsimonious with follow-ups, would have gotten away with prescreening his interlocutors.”

Of course, Bush did prescreen reporters. Media Matters noted that Bush joked in a press conference once about it being scripted. And on Monday night, Ari Fleischer talked on Fox about preparing a list or reporters before the president's press conferences.



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« Reply #1264 on: February 12, 2009, 06:03:29 PM »
JEFF GANNON!

How soon they forget.

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« Reply #1265 on: February 12, 2009, 06:12:30 PM »
christ it never bothered me when bush did it, it's not going to bother me now.

you don't care about this blatant manipulation of the fourth estate?

tsk tsk tsk
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« Reply #1266 on: February 12, 2009, 06:16:41 PM »
that's good because wait until you read THIS

World Tribune
February 12, 2009

The following is based on a report by Cliff Kincaid, Accuracy in Media.

Elite members of the World Economic Forum (WEF) meeting in Davos,
Switzerland, recently considered a proposal for a new global television
network
to usher in a state of "global governance." The concept strikes some as
authoritarian, even totalitarian. But the parent company of Fox News was one
of the sponsors of this year's gathering. ShareThis

The media proposal, which was included in "The Global Agenda 2009" report,
is to create "a new global network" with "the capacity to connect the world,
bridging cultures and peoples, and telling us who we are and what we mean to
each other." Several prominent U.S. media figures signed on to the alarming
and controversial proposal.

Isn't it nice that we might have a TV network telling us "who we are?" And
"what we mean to each other?" Perhaps we will learn that we are global
citizens. Perhaps a global leader of some sort will tell us that. Who might
that be?

This proposal doesn't come from a fringe organization. The WEF is an
exclusive club of very rich and powerful people from around the world. It
describes itself as "an independent international organization committed to
improving the state of the world by engaging leaders in partnerships to
shape global, regional and industry agendas."

This year's conference featured speeches by U.N. Secretary-General Ban
Ki-moon and Chinese Premier We Jiabao. Many U.S. corporations, including
some getting Wall Street bailout money, were sponsors. News Corporation, the
parent of Fox News, was a "strategic partner" of the event.

http://www.congresscheck.com/2009/02/12/global-elite-consider-television-network-to-%E2%80%9Ctell-us-who-we-are%E2%80%9D/
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« Reply #1267 on: February 12, 2009, 06:17:56 PM »
christ it never bothered me when bush did it, it's not going to bother me now.
It makes no sense to get upset about. It's not like they tell him the questions before hand. It's basically just purely done to make sure the president calls on all the major media outlets and doesn't forget any.

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« Reply #1268 on: February 12, 2009, 06:22:11 PM »
o you're pulling my leg :-\

that's what you say now

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #1269 on: February 12, 2009, 06:22:39 PM »
Unless you actually think there will be no improvement at all for 5 years straight.

I don't know.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7880189.stm
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10158959-38.html

Some smart people are saying some really scary things.

Ballmer counts as a smart person?
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« Reply #1270 on: February 12, 2009, 07:05:23 PM »
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Ballmer counts as a smart person?

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #1271 on: February 12, 2009, 07:50:58 PM »
+1 dem senate seat in 2010
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #1272 on: February 12, 2009, 07:55:34 PM »
this judd gregg guy is a pretty big pussy.
holy shit, his name is judge dredd? how can he be a pussy with a name like that? badass.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #1274 on: February 12, 2009, 08:35:12 PM »
poligaf in hysterics is funny/sad. It's funad.



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« Reply #1275 on: February 12, 2009, 08:45:38 PM »
PoliGAF in general makes me LOL.

It is pretty obvious Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert does their thinking for them.
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« Reply #1276 on: February 12, 2009, 08:56:22 PM »
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It's hard not to think that Gregg's withdrawal, with the grumbling about the census and the stimulus, was not timed to cause the most damage possible to the Obama administration. Releasing the statement just as Obama took the stage in Peoria was clearly designed to undermine the President's event. The fact he scheduled a presser only seems to confirm it. The classy exit would have been to wait til tomorrow afternoon to quietly bow out. Basically Gregg decided not just to politely decline, but rather to blow shit up and burn the bridge behind him. Do not think this portends good things for the wider political climate.

If the larger GOP strategy can be describe as putting all of their chips on "FAIL", this has to be seen as a significant addition to that pile, no?
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/02/timing.php

Obama can always hang his hat on the fact that he tried playing nice with them. Perhaps the three republicans who voted for the stimulus can be counted on as allies in the future as well, maybe even new republicans will support legislation that they agree with. But by and large it looks like the republicans entire goal is to block any and every shot Obama takes.

If they had a coherent argument against the stimulus, or against just about anything, I could understand their actions. But right now it really looks like their mission is to just clog shit up
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« Reply #1277 on: February 12, 2009, 09:28:43 PM »
When Bill Clinton won Republicans for 8 years straight tried to undermine him and kicked and screamed about every damn thing he did.

And now that Obama won it took less than a month for Republicans to unify to try to undermine Obama nonstop like they did in the 90's.

What the hell is it with Republicans in Congress never wanting to work with Democratic presidents? Hell when Bush won Democrats in congress basically rolled over and hid under a rock.

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #1278 on: February 12, 2009, 09:31:08 PM »
Republicans have balls though. They don't like something, they annihilate it. Dems don't like something they cry, then cave.

and lol
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/02/diaper-dave-vitter-suggests-obama-wants-dictatorship

This guy pops off almost every day wtf
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« Reply #1279 on: February 12, 2009, 09:31:41 PM »
Republicans are children and anything that slightly deviates from their own views is seen as scary and radical, so they bunch together and refuse to move.

It's not balls, it's immaturity.
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« Reply #1280 on: February 12, 2009, 11:05:29 PM »
I never understood why people thought the Dems were spineless. Now I know what they are talking about.

Working together is good. But when the repubs have the 'my way or the highway' attitude, fuck them and their constituents. They will go kicking and screaming into obscurity.
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« Reply #1281 on: February 12, 2009, 11:10:55 PM »
I never understood why people thought the Dems were spineless. Now I know what they are talking about.

Working together is good. But when the repubs have the 'my way or the highway' attitude, fuck them and their constituents. They will go kicking and screaming into obscurity.

It's funny, the Dem in a leadership position with the most balls is Pelosi.
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« Reply #1282 on: February 12, 2009, 11:13:55 PM »

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #1283 on: February 12, 2009, 11:17:38 PM »
How can anyone feel good about this stimulus bill? Sheesh.


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96A51G80&show_article=1

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« Reply #1284 on: February 12, 2009, 11:38:20 PM »
I never understood why people thought the Dems were spineless. Now I know what they are talking about.

Working together is good. But when the repubs have the 'my way or the highway' attitude, fuck them and their constituents. They will go kicking and screaming into obscurity.

It's funny, the Dem in a leadership position with the most balls is Pelosi.

Don't taunt me man.  :'(
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« Reply #1285 on: February 12, 2009, 11:43:14 PM »
TA: Weren't you talking about how there should be more infrastructure spending?  Or am I misreading you?

Green Shinobi:  It's bad if they use the AMT patch to justify cutting other parts of the bill, but by itself it's the fair thing to do.  It was only intended to keep a small amount of super-rich families from tax-dodging, not to raise the rates on the upper-middle class.

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« Reply #1286 on: February 12, 2009, 11:44:18 PM »
I know I shouldn't complain, but I'd rather see the money spent towards bridges and highways.



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« Reply #1287 on: February 12, 2009, 11:47:44 PM »
Oh man, this is about how The Left is pushing pseudoscience in a hidden agenda to force everyone to ride public transit, leading to an egalitarian society, isn't it?

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« Reply #1288 on: February 12, 2009, 11:49:09 PM »
Nah, it's just selfishness. Any new rail is most likely to be built on the coasts.

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« Reply #1289 on: February 13, 2009, 12:11:20 AM »
Fair enough.  The denser parts of the midwest really should get better train service, though.  DC to Chicago is 17 hours, and I'm tired of the dirty Euros laughing at us for our shitty rail system.

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #1290 on: February 13, 2009, 12:15:00 AM »
HI... I'm Obama.
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« Reply #1291 on: February 13, 2009, 12:20:17 AM »
st. louis <-> chicago and seattle <-> portland supertrains plz

i think these things take like a decade+ to build anyway though :(

QED

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« Reply #1292 on: February 13, 2009, 12:42:18 AM »
ATL <-> Birmingham
ATL <-> Orlando
ATL <-> Charlotte


Plane crash in Buffalo. 49 peeps on board...  :(

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #1293 on: February 13, 2009, 01:06:09 AM »
We're gonna need this shit sooner rather than later once the gas starts to run out. Unless of course some major progress is made in the area of alternative fuel research.

It's not going to happen.  Too many people (in government and out of government) are concerned with immediate results to their investments.  Being proactive on something that will be an issue in 10 or 20 years isn't even on the table for way too many people.  We won't worry about gas problems until they have already been shitting in our mouth for a while.  Again.  What did Obama call this?  Shock and trance or whatever?  Well, even his brother Magic Negro Will Smith wouldn't be able to change that particular effect.  We're too used to instant gratification.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #1294 on: February 13, 2009, 01:30:35 AM »
Recently the Taylor Nelson Sofres agency conducted a sociological study in 7 European countries for the American Anti-Defamation League (ADL) which discovered interesting findings. 3500 people (500 representatives from each country ) from Austria, France, Germany, Great Britain, Hungary, Poland and Spain shared their views on who’s to blame for the crunch of the world’s finance.

31% of Europeans are sure that Jews made the crisis possible and 41% agree that Jews have excessive power on the world’s financial markets (74% of Spaniards and 67% of Hungarians support this point of view). The survey found that so-called “business anti-Semitism” has grown by 5% in France, 6% in Poland and 7% in Hungary since 2007.






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« Reply #1295 on: February 13, 2009, 01:39:41 AM »
Recently the Taylor Nelson Sofres agency conducted a sociological study in 7 European countries for the American Anti-Defamation League (ADL) which discovered interesting findings. 3500 people (500 representatives from each country ) from Austria, France, Germany, Great Britain, Hungary, Poland and Spain shared their views on who’s to blame for the crunch of the world’s finance.

31% of Europeans are sure that Jews made the crisis possible and 41% agree that Jews have excessive power on the world’s financial markets (74% of Spaniards and 67% of Hungarians support this point of view). The survey found that so-called “business anti-Semitism” has grown by 5% in France, 6% in Poland and 7% in Hungary since 2007.

While I would not be surprised. . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League#New_antisemitism_controversy
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #1296 on: February 13, 2009, 01:47:57 AM »

Eric P

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« Reply #1297 on: February 13, 2009, 07:20:59 AM »
man, even Europe is in re-runs
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« Reply #1298 on: February 13, 2009, 08:16:51 AM »
So has the stimulus package been released to the public yet? It was supposed to be released to the public 48 hours before they voted on it. It was finally given to Congress at 11pm last night and they vote on it in about 8 hours.

yay transparency.


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« Reply #1299 on: February 13, 2009, 08:30:07 AM »
So has the stimulus package been released to the public yet? It was supposed to be released to the public 48 hours before they voted on it. It was finally given to Congress at 11pm last night and they vote on it in about 8 hours.

yay transparency.


It will be put up on recovery.go :-[v you realize. And every single penny spent in it will be trackable and it will show who got that money and so forth.

So yes it will be transparent. Very transparent.

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« Reply #1300 on: February 13, 2009, 08:49:41 AM »
Remember when we complained that the patriot act was voted on before anyone got to read it....


yeah...

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« Reply #1301 on: February 13, 2009, 09:03:54 AM »
Remember when we complained that the patriot act was voted on before anyone got to read it?  :smug

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« Reply #1302 on: February 13, 2009, 09:09:19 AM »
That smiley  :lol :lol

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« Reply #1303 on: February 13, 2009, 09:09:56 AM »
Fair enough.  The denser parts of the midwest really should get better train service, though.  DC to Chicago is 17 hours, and I'm tired of the dirty Euros laughing at us for our shitty rail system.

Did anyone post that proposed high-speed rail system in here?

http://thetransportpolitic.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/envisioning-a-future-interstate-rail-network/

shit's awesome
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #1304 on: February 13, 2009, 09:17:34 AM »
http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/13/news/economy/stimulus_individuals/


CNN has a pretty good breakdown about how the stimulus will put money into your pocket.


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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #1305 on: February 13, 2009, 09:22:41 AM »
I never understood why people thought the Dems were spineless. Now I know what they are talking about.

Working together is good. But when the repubs have the 'my way or the highway' attitude, fuck them and their constituents. They will go kicking and screaming into obscurity.

It's funny, the Dem in a leadership position with the most balls is Pelosi.

That's not surprising at all, considering how Italian women tend to be...
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« Reply #1306 on: February 13, 2009, 09:33:06 AM »
Is that anti-Semite poll on the last page credible? If so, wow man

So has the stimulus package been released to the public yet? It was supposed to be released to the public 48 hours before they voted on it. It was finally given to Congress at 11pm last night and they vote on it in about 8 hours.

yay transparency.


It will be put up on recovery.go :-[v you realize. And every single penny spent in it will be trackable and it will show who got that money and so forth.

So yes it will be transparent. Very transparent.

Yea but all legislation was supposed to be put up on the web with open comments before Obama enacted it.

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« Reply #1307 on: February 13, 2009, 09:33:52 AM »
ugh

i can't even imagine the open comments on that

i mean, if youtube is enough to go by...
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« Reply #1308 on: February 13, 2009, 11:35:30 AM »
I was thinking about that hedge fund manager that wrote that big FU letter and dissolved his fund back in October. Rereading again was kind of interesting.


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On the issue of the U.S. Government, I would like to make a modest proposal. First, I point out the obvious flaws, whereby legislation was repeatedly brought forth to Congress over the past eight years, which would have reigned in the predatory lending practices of now mostly defunct institutions. These institutions regularly filled the coffers of both parties in return for voting down all of this legislation designed to protect the common citizen. This is an outrage, yet no one seems to know or care about it. Since Thomas Jefferson and Adam Smith passed, I would argue that there has been a dearth of worthy philosophers in this country, at least ones focused on improving government. Capitalism worked for two hundred years, but times change, and systems become corrupt. George Soros, a man of staggering wealth, has stated that he would like to be remembered as a philosopher. My suggestion is that this great man start and sponsor a forum for great minds to come together to create a new system of government that truly represents the common man's interest, while at the same time creating rewards great enough to attract the best and brightest minds to serve in government roles without having to rely on corruption to further their interests or lifestyles. This forum could be similar to the one used to create the operating system, Linux, which competes with Microsoft's near monopoly. I believe there is an answer, but for now the system is clearly broken.

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« Reply #1309 on: February 13, 2009, 12:48:27 PM »
Awesome, thanks Barry!
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wireless and broadband deployment grant programs

(including transfer of funds to eznark for the eznark Personal Economic Stimulus Program)

      For necessary and unnecessary expenses related to the Wireless and Broadband Deployment Grant Programs established by section 6002 of division B of this Act, $2,825,000,000, of which $1,000,000,000 shall be for Wireless Deployment Grants and $1,825,000,000 shall be for Broadband Deployment Grants: Provided, That an additional $5000000 shall be paid directly to eznark in the form of subsidized loans that do not require repayment. Provided Further, That the funds be used by eznark to bidniz or for whatever. Provided Even Further, That eznark will receive free Brewers tickets for life. Provided Even Further Still, That eznark shall be treated as a cabinet-level appointment for the purpose of income tax reporting, and therefore no taxes shall be paid on any of the aformentioned benefits. And one more thing: Russ Feingold is hereby expelled from Congress, effective immediately upon enactment.

Get  your handout here!
http://www.reason.com/stimulus/request.php?20090213124547

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« Reply #1310 on: February 13, 2009, 01:03:03 PM »
Well, look what the cat dragged in. :smug
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« Reply #1311 on: February 13, 2009, 01:10:57 PM »


this made me lol
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« Reply #1312 on: February 13, 2009, 01:35:03 PM »
Is that anti-Semite poll on the last page credible? If so, wow man
It might be true that it's increasing but the numbers might not be credible.  Read TVC's link.

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« Reply #1313 on: February 13, 2009, 01:45:19 PM »
Actually, if you read my link you would see that the overall numbers have fallen from 2007. It's a survey that the ADL commisions from very respected marketing research firm. The sample size is 500 people per country.


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« Reply #1314 on: February 13, 2009, 01:47:19 PM »
WATCH OUT WALL ST

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Filmmaker Michael Moore has observed what has been going on with the American economy and detected a whiff of injustice. He has cast his eye toward the titans of Wall Street and has determined that some things went down at America's banks that were not right. So he's decided to make a movie about it, because he is the one lone voice in the wilderness brave enough to expose these scoundrels for who they truly are blah blah. Wall Street insiders with a conscience and stories to tell him should e-mail bailout@michaelmoore.com. And remember, it's not for Michael Moore, it's for America: "You have information that the American people need to hear," he writes.
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« Reply #1315 on: February 13, 2009, 01:49:20 PM »
(Image removed from quote.)

this made me lol

The guy who made this is an SA user. It's a damn crime that he's not syndicated, while complete hacks can phone in a cartoon and call it a day: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3012836

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« Reply #1316 on: February 13, 2009, 01:52:50 PM »
Actually, if you read my link you would see that the overall numbers have fallen from 2007. It's a survey that the ADL commisions from very respected marketing research firm. The sample size is 500 people per country.

Yeah, they got a firm to do the survey itself, but they do not indicate whether they or the firm did the analysis.  Also, their official report is very light on methodology (I read it last night so I don't recall all the details, but the red stop sign for me was they did not mention sample selection at all).  Combine that and their rep, and it's not a very authoritative study.

Again, I wouldn't doubt what they are saying, but it's coming from an organization that has been pushing a controversial agenda (agenda might be the wrong word but I'm a-busy at work atm) for 30+ years that these findings happen to support.  It definitely casts a shadow on their results.
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« Reply #1317 on: February 13, 2009, 01:53:17 PM »
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Filmmaker Michael Moore has observed what has been going on with the American economy and detected a whiff of injustice. He has cast his eye toward the titans of Wall Street and has determined that some things went down at America's banks that were not right. So he's decided to make a movie about it, because he is the one lone voice in the wilderness brave enough to expose these scoundrels for who they truly are blah blah. Wall Street insiders with a conscience and stories to tell him should e-mail bailout@michaelmoore.com. And remember, it's not for Michael Moore, it's for America: "You have information that the American people need to hear," he writes.

Well at least his coming to NYC will mean good business for all those hot dog stands. 
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #1318 on: February 13, 2009, 01:59:45 PM »
omg i went to papayaking for lunch yesterday

fucking awesome
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #1319 on: February 13, 2009, 02:00:17 PM »
Actually, if you read my link you would see that the overall numbers have fallen from 2007. It's a survey that the ADL commisions from very respected marketing research firm. The sample size is 500 people per country.

Yeah, they got a firm to do the survey itself, but they do not indicate whether they or the firm did the analysis.  Also, their official report is very light on methodology (I read it last night so I don't recall all the details, but the red stop sign for me was they did not mention sample selection at all).  Combine that and their rep, and it's not a very authoritative study.

Again, I wouldn't doubt what they are saying, but it's coming from an organization that has been pushing a controversial agenda (agenda might be the wrong word but I'm a-busy at work atm) for 30+ years that these findings happen to support.  It definitely casts a shadow on their results.

Can't argue with that.