What are you playing?

[Trent Dole]

Giantbomb's content is rad and many of their opinions are wrong wrong WRONG. They were down on CV HD but I played it for over 300 hours, they give no fucks about Musou games and I've 1000'd four of them, etc. They're a fun bunch of duders though so I like some of their work anyway. And how the fuck do people so bad at playing games get jobs that consist primarily of playing games? Do they just play like shit on camera to troll people/ show what's belived the average dumbass user experience will be?

A mega update went up for PSO2 JP on Tueday night giving us subclasses, very hard mode, and upping the cap to level 50. I was up to 20 of six last night and got two of those three unlocked. The cap quests are fucking evil, get three sets of 90 drops each.

[MrAngryFace]

I dunno if their opinions are 'wrong'- if anything their opinions are more valid because its clear they actually play the games- most people on the net don't- because there are a finite number of minutes in the day and they spend almost all of them online yelling on forums about games.

[Trent Dole]

Well fine they're not 'wrong' I just strongly disagree with them on a lot of shit, ok?

[Stoney Mason]

I think Dark Souls and Demon's soul suck.

I think Half Life is a mostly over-rated series.

I think Obsidian puts out generally over-rated games.

I think Far Cry 2 a big mess of a game.

I thought the original Crackdown was an intensely boring game devoid of actual content.

We all have our opinions which is to say everyone one of mine above could be wrong as I've noticed GAF and a lot of posters over here would disagree with me on all of them. As long as I'm not an obnoxious toad about it though, its fine for me to have differing and evenly wildly divergent opinions. In fact I generally find that option more interesting and preferable than the collected group think that forms in most situations like forums. I'm more interested to hear why or why not somebody likes something rather than wanting them to just confirm my already pre-held opinion.

[demi]

You can rest assured that your opinion is very, very wrong





On Dark Souls and Demon Souls

[Stoney Mason]

You can rest assured that your opinion is very, very wrong





On Dark Souls and Demon Souls

And that's awesome. Great that you enjoy them. It's fun to sometimes read stories about the game or why other people like it. Doesn't make me like them any more (the game I mean) but heh that's the point.

[MrAngryFace]

Stony- gaf is big enough for ANY opinion to have a bunch of people who are like U R WRONG

[Himu]

You misconstruing this the wrong way, Stoney. People don't have an issue with their OPINIONS. What people have an issue with is their opinions which are formed from ignorance and lack of an open-mind.

Watch any Dynasty Warriors QL from GB squad, and they they are shitting on it for apparently sucking, while not knowing how in the FUCK to do the most basic of things.

It's like reading a French New Wave hater review a Godard film. EVERYONE KNOWS you are unwilling to adapt and learn how to play the fucking game, but what they do is post professional videos of them sucking dick at games while making the games look bad, which equates to lower sales. For some of us, these sales matter because in the Dynasty Warrior case, we are now relegated to digital only releases. And then Giant Bomb will go and make a QL for the new one, while playing it as if they are 6 years old and can't read for shit, and giving it a crap review because, well gee, this game apparently sucks because I didn't bother to learn how to play the game!

There's opinions and then there's "opinions". Opinions are based on reality and fact and are objective, as much as they are subjective; "opinions" are mere trolls, filled with ignorance and an unwillingness to learn how to play the fucking game and review it right.

[Himu]

Watch the Nights QL.

Abortion.

[fistfulofmetal]

its a website about video games. whatever

[Positive Touch]

its a website about video games. whatever

.

[Himu]

Personally, when I read websites about games, I read/watch them to become knowledgeable about the game. Not to watch some 40 year old fuckwad, ignorant of how to play the game, rattle on about how "this is proof today's games are so much better" without a smidgen of learning how to play it. What did you gain from watching that video? Nothing. You certainly didn't learn how the game plays, and they certainly didn't put any effort into objectively marking its flaws rather than discarding it because they don't know how to play a fucking 1996 arcade point run game - one of the most simplistic games of all time.

Modern gamers who act like all love for old games is nostalgia and that only modern games are good are just as bad as nostalgia tards.

[Stoney Mason]

You misconstruing this the wrong way, Stoney. People don't have an issue with their OPINIONS. What people have an issue with is their opinions which are formed from ignorance and lack of an open-mind.

Watch any Dynasty Warriors QL from GB squad, and they they are shitting on it for apparently sucking, while not knowing how in the FUCK to do the most basic of things.

It's like reading a French New Wave hater review a Godard film. EVERYONE KNOWS you are unwilling to adapt and learn how to play the fucking game, but what they do is post professional videos of them sucking dick at games while making the games look bad, which equates to lower sales. For some of us, these sales matter because in the Dynasty Warrior case, we are now relegated to digital only releases. And then Giant Bomb will go and make a QL for the new one, while playing it as if they are 6 years old and can't read for shit, and giving it a crap review because, well gee, this game apparently sucks because I didn't bother to learn how to play the game!

There's opinions and then there's "opinions". Opinions are based on reality and fact and are objective, as much as they are subjective; "opinions" are mere trolls, filled with ignorance and an unwillingness to learn how to play the fucking game and review it right.

People hinted at what I was going to say but for me its like a restaurant. If you don't like one restaurant, then there are probably like a thousand restaurants down the road that offer food more to your liking. The reason why they don't like Dynasty Warriors is because they don't like Dynasty Warriors. I have a feeling they could give more detailed explanations and you would still kind of dismiss it. I don't like Dynasty Warriors either. If someone asks me I would say I don't like Dynasty Warriors but the reasons I give you, you may deem not valid. That tends to happen when a person's gut reaction is to say I don't like something that another person intensely likes. The only difference is that its not my job to have a podcast or do a quicklook and say why I don't like certain games. On a forum its easy. I see a Dynasty Warriors thread. I know other people really like the games. So I don't post in them out of politeness. Jeff and Vinny did a quicklook on NBA 2k13 and he hates most sportgames. I know that going in though. There are a lot of sources I can go to, for a detailed insightful view into sports games or NBA 2k13. But I don't get offended when GiantBomb doesn't do that. Those guys have specific strengths. And their first strength is entertainment. Then certain guys are stronger in certain genres or particular series they like. If Jeff is doing a quicklook on NFL Blitz, or Borderlands I know he has good insight into those series. If he's doing Madden I know he doesn't. So there is no reason to get upset about it. You go to appropriate sources for appropriate material on things.

[Himu]

But that's my problem with game writing.

Can you think of ANY piece of nerd writing that does this? Not film, not books, not even tv, or comics.

But in games, they'll have someone who CLEARLY has a bias AGAINST such games review the game. In world does this make sense? You don't like Dynasty Warriors, fine. But at the very least, get someone who does, and know how to play it. Not this stupid, "I don't like Dynasty Warriors yet here I am reviewing Dynasty Warriors because game writing is a fucking joke, so I'm just going to sit here and play this like a 4 year old rather than attempt to play it well and show all of you why Dynasty Warriors sucks"bullshit.

Jeff doesn't like Sega games, so why bother him cover Nights? It was 30 minutes of "this game is shit" ad nauseum, you think that's funny and actually contributive to objective game discussion? What if someone interested in the game watched that? It'd be the equivalent of someone playing X-Com, their troops continuously dying, and they say,"this game is shit" repeatedly for 30 minutes rather than learning how to actually play it.

[Joe Molotov]

I'm sure there are plenty of Saw VII reviewers who are thinking "oh, not this shit again" and fanboys that are like "YOU GUYS JUST DON'T UNDERSTANNNNNNNNNNNDDDD!"

[Himu]

The difference is that with film criticism, they don't have to actually direct and write the movie, whereas in games you have to direct the character and navigate through the sub systems. With film criticism, all you have to do is watch a movie, deal out the dish. With games, you have to actually PLAY it. If you are not actively trying to learn how to play it, then you are a bad critic.

[MrAngryFace]

its a website about video games. whatever

fukin truth

[MrAngryFace]

Watch the Nights QL.

Abortion.

come ON that was pure entertainment- getting JEFF of all people to sit in on that QL- everyone knows how he feels about it haha. Sides, 90% of people have already made up their minds about fuckin Nights

[Stoney Mason]

But that's my problem with game writing.

Can you think of ANY piece of nerd writing that does this? Not film, not books, not even tv, or comics.

But in games, they'll have someone who CLEARLY has a bias AGAINST such games review the game. In world does this make sense? You don't like Dynasty Warriors, fine. But at the very least, get someone who does, and know how to play it. Not this stupid, "I don't like Dynasty Warriors yet here I am reviewing Dynasty Warriors because game writing is a fucking joke, so I'm just going to sit here and play this like a 4 year old rather than attempt to play it well and show all of you why Dynasty Warriors sucks"bullshit.

Jeff doesn't like Sega games, so why bother him cover Nights? It was 30 minutes of "this game is shit" ad nauseum, you think that's funny and actually contributive to objective game discussion? What if someone interested in the game watched that? It'd be the equivalent of someone playing X-Com, their troops continuously dying, and they say,"this game is shit" repeatedly for 30 minutes rather than learning how to actually play it.

You're using this very pre-internet view of media as if these people have the same power they had 20 or 25 years ago. You don't have to worry about Giant Bomb effecting the sales of Dynasty Warriors. It doesn't. In the exact same way that whatever they think about the new Call of Duty game is not going to effect the sales of it in any significant way. The percentage of people who solely base their buying decisions on what websites say and what one particular website says is miniscule. The regular normal joe six pack public doesn't buy games like that. Sites like Giant Bomb are for a small sub-section of videogame nerds who are into specific aspects of video game culture. You don't have to worry about all these mythical people who are being suckered. It's not happening. The people who love Japanese games and think they are the best thing in the world are going to different places to get the information they want. And if Giant Bomb suddenly thought Dynasty Warriors was the bee's knees its not going to sell any more copies. I love talking about videogames. But nobody takes this shit seriously. People buy what interests them and what looks cool to them. Not what a specific website says they should be buying. Hell Youtube has more power when it comes to videogames at this point than any specific gaming site.

The best I can give you is that hey, I rag on reviews I think that are done poorly. It's sort of human nature especially if you happen to like the thing that you feel is being done a disservice. I made a few threads about Tom Chick over here because I think he's awful. (Jim Sterling over at Destructoid is another one of those troll reviewers for example) But I don't seriously think that what Tom Chick says matters or that it effects anything. It's just something to post about on a messageboard to mock and have a little fun with.

[Himu]

Watch the Nights QL.

Abortion.

come ON that was pure entertainment

Um.

[chronovore]

Toy Soldiers, its DLC, and the sequel are all on sale right now. I bought the first one; it seems pretty good. Should I buy the sequel, or that Avalanche developed game in the jeeps?

[Stoney Mason]

Both are good. I mean Toy Soldiers Cold War is similar to the first but with a more modern gear. It's more if you want more of Toy Soldiers. Renegade Ops is a fun game. One thing that I found surprising about it is that you actually need to play in a slightly more controlled manner than the arcade style facade would appear otherwise you run out of health quickly.

[The Sceneman]

One game I never actually followed or payed any attention to, even though it was Xbeast exclusive, was Toy Soldiers. I guess I got burned on too many dogshit "Army Men" games. I dunno. Are they just some 3d tower defense thing?

[Himu]

AHAHAHAHAH ARMY MEN. EGM reviews of those games were the best.

[Stoney Mason]

They are indeed 3D Tower defense games where you can jump in the emplacements or vehicles and control the action.

[demi]

One game I never actually followed or payed any attention to, even though it was Xbeast exclusive, was Toy Soldiers. I guess I got burned on too many dogshit "Army Men" games. I dunno. Are they just some 3d tower defense thing?

Yea its just an uninspired Tower Defense game. I fucking hate Tower Defense.

[chronovore]

Both are good. I mean Toy Soldiers Cold War is similar to the first but with a more modern gear. It's more if you want more of Toy Soldiers. Renegade Ops is a fun game. One thing that I found surprising about it is that you actually need to play in a slightly more controlled manner than the arcade style facade would appear otherwise you run out of health quickly.

Thanks. I'll stick with the original TS for now, and picked up Renegade Ops, since it looks like a blast.

One game I never actually followed or payed any attention to, even though it was Xbeast exclusive, was Toy Soldiers. I guess I got burned on too many dogshit "Army Men" games. I dunno. Are they just some 3d tower defense thing?

Yea its just an uninspired Tower Defense game. I fucking hate Tower Defense.

I'm not fond of them either, but I do like Hero Defense games like Army of Darkness on iOS. Toy Soldiers plays fairly action-y so far.

[Third]

Dead Island.

So shitty, but I can't stop playing.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Kirby's Return to Dream Land (Wii) - I got to admit, I'm actually impressed with this game.  While it's true that the difficulty falls somewhere between BlackMage's mom and babby, the content is interesting enough to keep me playing.  I see they adopted the Mario style of having three (or sometimes four) items to collect per stage.  Getting more energy spheres will unlock new challenges and that kind of stuff.  Much like Mario games, most of the spheres are easy to get but some will require a little bit of thought.

Having said that, my Kirby nostalgia itch has been fully scratched and probably won't bother with the series again unless it is something great on par with either Adventure or The Amazing Mirror.  Also Wii games look like fucking shit on my 60" 1080p plasma TV.  I'm seriously thinking about hooking it up to my 24" LCD TV in my room and might just do that.

[chronovore]

I just picked up the "Six Degrees of Schafer" Achievement in Brütal Legend by going up against Tim Schafer himself. He is playing today to celebrate 3 years since the launch of the game, and apparently there's a "viral month" happening for "viral Achievements."

I got my ass kicked. I have seriously forgotten how to play this game, but I am happy to have met Tim on the fields of battle!

[MrAngryFace]

cursed gun in borderlands 2 is so great. Borderlands 2 = my goty

[tiesto]

Played some games at Comic Con:

New Super Mario Bros U - they only had multiplayer set up which was annoying... 4 players play the game like NSMB, but one extra player uses the tablet to make blocks for your characters to walk on. The girl playing with the tablet had no idea what she was doing and kept on making blocks that ended up getting in my way Controls seem to be stiffer than NSMB DS...

Pikmin 3 - never really got into this series so had no idea what I was doing. Seems more like a resource management-esque game than anything. Graphics are beautiful, best looking game on the system IMO.

The Wonderful 101 - pretty fun but I don't really like the tablet controller. You have to constantly draw all these shapes on the controller to do moves, and at one point the action switches to the tablet, which is sooo gimmicky.

Rayman WiiU - don't have much experience with the franchise but it was set up for 2 players, one player moves obstacles out of the way with the tablet (and "tickles" enemies to make them vulnerable to attack) and the other player goes through the game like a normal platformer. The guy with the tablet in this one actually knew what he was doing, so it was fun, albeit gimmicky.

Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing Transformed - played on the Panzer Dragoon track with some NASCAR racer person in a Hot Wheels car Aside from the NASCAR racer inclusion not making much sense (Daytona? getting sales from the vital redneck demographic???) it was cool, with some nice graphics and subtle fanservice. Framerate lagged a but but that was probably because I was playing the 360 version.

Sony Smash Bros - sucked. Very sluggish, simplistic controls, lack of "flow", stupid way to get kills, horrible character roster, no dashing. Everybody was just complaining to the poor rep the whole time "why can't I do x command that I can do in Smash?".

Ni No Kuni - beautiful cel-shaded graphics, lush Ghibli artwork, menu-based RPG, world map, and a whole town filled with armored Boars concluding with a fight against a mechanical Boar??? Yeah, you already know what I think of it.

[Joe Molotov]

The Wonderful 101 - pretty fun but I don't really like the tablet controller. You have to constantly draw all these shapes on the controller to do moves, and at one point the action switches to the tablet, which is sooo gimmicky.

Eww, that sounds lame.

[Shaka Khan]

Sony Smash is going to suck/bomb so hard. What a colossal waste of a big investment.

[Raban]

Played some Animal Crossing: Wild World with Himuro. My swag was so brilliant, Himuro went blind and started dropping shirts everywhere like a fucking asshole, so I smacked him on the head with my shovel and tossed him into the recycling bin. Lesson learned.

[Himu]

POLLUTE ALL TOWNS WITH SHIRTS

[Momo]

ugh.

[chronovore]

Started Vanquish, made it to the first boss; seems like he's taking FOREVER on Normal difficulty. I kind of feel like blowing through this game; may restart on Easy. 

My god, the amount of prerendered cinema in this is CRAZY in the first chapter. They really must have assumed they were going to make an assload of money on this.

[Momo]

I dont recall vanquish getting all that hard on normal till a bit later in. It is harder than other games though, you always need to pay attention or you're fucked.

[Rahxephon91]

They should have made tons of money on Vanquish.

[chronovore]

I dont recall vanquish getting all that hard on normal till a bit later in. It is harder than other games though, you always need to pay attention or you're fucked.

I just feel like I was running out of ammunition frequently. The weapon cabinets didn't refill, so I was running round trying to figure out which ones I'd already hit. Usually I'd just get smashed when the laser targeted the place where I was in cover; I am guessing that I'm just supposed to keep moving.

They should have made tons of money on Vanquish.

I mainly mean that the amount of video seems like an expensive artistic choice for storytelling for something which is otherwise so utterly cheesy in its voice-acting and plot.

[The Sceneman]

iirc chapter 1 and the final one have lots of cutscenes, the bulk of the game is mainly just gameplay thankfully.

By the end of the game I was lol'ing so hard at some of the cutscenes, the story is so ludicrous. Those crazy Japanese dudes!

[tiesto]

Started playing Code of Princess, seems like a worthy sequel to Guardian Heroes, although my character's movement speed is a bit sluggish (I assume this gets better as I raise my 'speed' stat?) It's pretty campy in terms of dialogue too which I appreciate.

[iconoclast]

spoiler (click to show/hide)

[close]

SO CLOSE I could cry.

I felt like I wouldn't be able to dodge anything against the final boss because my hand was shaking so much. Damn nerves.

[iconoclast]

Finished Resident Evil (GC) as well. The constant backtracking can be annoying at times (the labs got on my nerves), but I liked the progression of solving puzzles & unlocking new areas. The bit of tension that comes from running around with low health, limited resources, and not knowing what could be up ahead is what really makes the game fun though (especially when you can't remember the last time you saved). That's something the newer REs lack; checkpoints mean you never lose much progress when you die, but death can be a pretty big setback in the original games.

Guess I'll play RE2 next.

[Raban]

hey I'm playing REmake too! Was it your first time through? What was your completion time?

[cool breeze]

I've been wanting to replay RE2 too.  I have it on PSN but a while back I looked or the best version and it seems to be the second release of the PC version (sourcenext) or the Gamecube version.  Both are expensive and/or rare, I think.

[iconoclast]

I've played some of the remake before, but that was the first time I completed it. I'm surprised at how much I still remembered from the PS1 version.

Completion time was just under 10 hours.

[Positive Touch]

I've been wanting to replay RE2 too.  I have it on PSN but a while back I looked or the best version and it seems to be the second release of the PC version (sourcenext) or the Gamecube version.  Both are expensive and/or rare, I think.

psn one is the best version as far as content goes - the dual shock version. basically every version is the same except for the og psx version and the n64 version. what do the newer versions have over it - higher res cutscenes and backgrounds? not worth it imo

[demi]

Gamecube is best cause Gamecube is #1

[Stoney Mason]

Tried Doom 3 via shady means to demo it and actually see if it was worth a purchase. And it is not. Time has not been kind to that game. Remove the graphical wow power it once held and it doesn't really feel like a decent modern shooter and it doesn't have the classic feel of the old dooms.

[cool breeze]

Tried Doom 3 via shady means to demo it and actually see if it was worth a purchase. And it is not. Time has not been kind to that game. Remove the graphical wow power it once held and it doesn't really feel like a decent modern shooter and it doesn't have the classic feel of the old dooms.

All I've read about BFG are how it's unfaithful to the original and still not fun like the old Doom games.

But it got me interested in modding vanilla Doom 3 (also since I finally found all thee CDs).  Sikk Mod is the main mods.  Other than the graphical overhaul (looks much nicer) there are gameplay options to make it feel more like Doom 1/2.  Obviously the limitations are the level designs, AI, and all that business from Doom 3, but there are some nice changes to make it faster and more action-y.  What's more interesting are the options to make it more survival horror-like.  You can set it so reloading tosses your clip and you're not reloading as often.  You have more ways to see in the dark (shoulder flashlight, nightvision) but they run on a battery meter.  You can make health packs pick-ups you carry with you.  Change the frequency of full and partial armor pick-ups.  I don't know how much it'll fix, but it might make Doom 3 worth revisiting past whatever BFG is, if you really want to revisit Doom 3.

sort of related, but was Doom 3 the first game to have 'hit' indicators on the crosshair? for some reason I thought it was Call of Duty 4 that started it, or at least made it popular.

[Himu]

REmake eventually grows to tedious for me to replay it. RE1-4 all the way with 5 as a bonus.

[Fifstar]

Started to Play Legend Of Grimrock, really liking it so far, I think I'm near the end of level 2. Only thing I'm unsure about if it will keep me interested for 20 hours or if it will get to samey after a while.

[archnemesis]

I enjoyed Grimrock all the way through. Well, almost. The last floor was a bit frustrating. Both puzzles and enemies get more difficult and complex with each floor.

[Fifstar]

Third floor was a bit annoying with being constantly poisoned by the spiders and there not being antidote stuff, so I had to wait and rest a lot to get rid of the posion, but still good. Difficulty so far is challenging but fair, even though quicksave was my friend.

The skill trees remind me a bit of DQ8, seems like it's the best to choose 2 skills from the beginning and max them out to get the good stuff. I like how the game clearly shows what you get on latter levels, seems like you don't have to try randomly what works best on your first playthrough, just a bit puzzled for which spells to go with the wizard.

Which party setup did you use archnemesis? The standard one? Because I use it and I dislike it a bit that I have two fighters, can't really put the rogue in front now, the second fighter would be useless in the second row as far as I can tell. On the other hand the backstabbing ability seems very hard to pulloff in the first place.

Borys: Why don't you get in on pc? You don't like playing pc games anymore? Does your wife not allow you to play games at home ? It would probably play well on an ipad though, I have to admit. Pushing arrows to move would be even more oldschool

[archnemesis]

My party wasn't great even though I tried to min-max to the best of my abilities. IIRC, my party was:

Front: Minotaur Fighter w/ strength & axes, Human Fighter w/ dodge & swords.
Back: Insectoid Wizard w/ fire magic, Lizardman Rogue w/ backstabbing daggers.

Once you memorize the enemies' patterns you can pull off a backstab every once in a while, but it's not trivial.

[Huff]

I'm usually not a big fan of sports games, but I used to have a blast playing wii sports golf while drunk with friends. Been playing hotshots vita and it's pretty fun. not great at all the mechanics yet but still winning all the early tournaments.

[BlueTsunami]

Been playing Dark Souls, definitely prefer it over Demon Souls. Its weirdly easier but also harder. Its like From gave the gamer various ways to defend themselves (like overpowered weapons right at the beginning and those potions) but they used all that as an opportunity to place you in harsher scenarios.

[cool breeze]

^Totally agree.  I wanna say Dark Souls is more demanding but less punishing, except that don't make no sense.


Unrelated: the worst part about free to play games is when they're great, and then you realize how f'd the business models can be.