Author Topic: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta) (Read 142469 times)

Ichirou · « **Reply #840 on:** January 05, 2010, 07:16:01 PM »

I can't believe people say Bayonetta looks like Sarah Palin

Palin looks like a frickin' MAN.

demi · « **Reply #841 on:** January 05, 2010, 07:42:18 PM »

The dragon boss was pissing me off cause I kept getting my ass beat within the first few minutes! I got him eventually though. Love the button mashing. Feels so good.

I've been using the sword, I dont feel comfortable to even try any of the other weapons. lol

Ichirou · « **Reply #842 on:** January 05, 2010, 07:45:12 PM »

You mean in chapter 4? That one's my least favorite of all the bosses, honestly.

demi · « **Reply #843 on:** January 05, 2010, 07:46:51 PM »

Yeah cause hes like HURR entire floor is lava but the hourglass is way on the other side while I try to stomp you! Im like WTF, so I just cheesed it by dodging his attack then when he broke the thing I ould run directly to the hourglass.

Ichirou · « **Reply #844 on:** January 05, 2010, 07:48:21 PM »

There's a weapon you can put on your legs that makes the lava harmless, btw. Dunno if you have it yet.

I remember having to use the hourglass to rebuild the platform like five or six times

drew · « **Reply #845 on:** January 05, 2010, 08:10:09 PM »

why does it show you only need two of the green things to make a green lolipop on the ingredients list but it takes 10 to make one?

Beezy · « **Reply #846 on:** January 05, 2010, 08:12:20 PM »

Two sets of 5. I think they show it on the top left of the screen. Confused me at first too.

Ichirou · « **Reply #847 on:** January 05, 2010, 08:13:34 PM »

Yeah, each color ball signifies 5 of each. There's a legend on the top of the screen where the recipes are.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #848 on:** January 05, 2010, 08:23:32 PM »

I didn't really care for the motorcycle part, it was alright though. I need to stop for tonight, I don't want to get too far on my first day.

Further than you drewsy. :ballin

demi · « **Reply #849 on:** January 05, 2010, 08:24:09 PM »

Some of the camera angles are some BULLSHIT. Some straight Ninja GAiden garbage

drew · « **Reply #850 on:** January 05, 2010, 08:40:25 PM »

Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on January 05, 2010, 08:23:32 PM

Further than you drewsy. :ballin

try not to cry when you look at my profile when you wake up in the morning

drew · « **Reply #851 on:** January 05, 2010, 09:11:13 PM »

yeah nevermind junpeii is on chapter 8 fml

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #852 on:** January 05, 2010, 09:30:47 PM »

Jeanne's taunt move is awesome.

Eric P · « **Reply #853 on:** January 05, 2010, 10:55:25 PM »

tried the demo when it first came out but it didn't click

read everyone raving about it so i thought i'd give it another shot

i'll be buying this tomorrow before work

drew · « **Reply #854 on:** January 05, 2010, 11:16:36 PM »

demi that was like the easiest boss fight ever

but one of the most fun bossfights too

if this is the worst then

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #855 on:** January 05, 2010, 11:51:43 PM »

I WANT MY FUCKING ICE SKATES. STOP HIDING SHIT SO WELL.

Beezy · « **Reply #856 on:** January 06, 2010, 12:26:17 AM »

Sword w/ handguns > Sword w/ shottys

I used that to whoop Mr. Dragon's ass. He wasn't so hard.

drew · « **Reply #857 on:** January 06, 2010, 12:29:07 AM »

explain yourself

Beezy · « **Reply #858 on:** January 06, 2010, 12:32:49 AM »

Use the handguns on your legs instead of the shotguns when using the sword. It just feels better. Easier to combo with. She busts out like three demon hair kicks at the end of some combos with this weapon set.

demi · « **Reply #859 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:01:48 AM »

Quote from: drew on January 05, 2010, 11:16:36 PM

demi that was like the easiest boss fight ever

but one of the most fun bossfights too

if this is the worst then

Yes I know, but seeing as I've never fought him I didnt know how he worked so he kept grabbing me at the start, then turning the entire arena into lava so I was running around going WTF

drew · « **Reply #860 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:03:53 AM »

demi · « **Reply #861 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:12:47 AM »

Also the scoring system is POOP, imo.

I've beaten every level so far without using items. Unfortunately the Leaderboards dont show that, so theres no way to really reinforce that. Pure Platinums, maybe.

Ichirou · « **Reply #862 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:19:54 AM »

You get points docked for using items at the end of a chapter. There's no way to win platinum trophies if you use items during a level. It's the same as if you get killed and use continues, so you do get penalized.

drew · « **Reply #863 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:22:23 AM »

ive used a handful of weak yellow and green items, im still figuring out which combos can be canceled with the snap of a finger, i keep getting caught up close in the middle of something, i also keep getting stone trophies purely due to dying in qte sequences, fml

by the way, my life bar was on the second level by the middle of that shitty lava level, junpeii says this is impossible, anyone else have two bars?

demi · « **Reply #864 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:25:04 AM »

I didnt have 2 levels. Still dont. Did you buy nothing but Witch Hearts? Did you buy the Life Extender from the Angel minigame prior?

demi · « **Reply #865 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:26:15 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on January 06, 2010, 02:19:54 AM

You get points docked for using items at the end of a chapter. There's no way to win platinum trophies if you use items during a level. It's the same as if you get killed and use continues, so you do get penalized.

Well, I still think its messed.

I played Chapter 2 the first time, and I fucked up the train achievement (oops). So I play the level, get an overall Bronze. Ok, I'll replay it.

Finish the 2nd go, and I wind up with a Silver. Yay! But for some reason I had a worse combo and time score, so it was actually worse. Why is this?

drew · « **Reply #866 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:26:55 AM »

i only bought one witch heart, and that was after i had the beginning of a second bar

Ichirou · « **Reply #867 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:30:03 AM »

Quote from: demi on January 06, 2010, 02:26:15 AM

Quote from: Ichirou on January 06, 2010, 02:19:54 AM
You get points docked for using items at the end of a chapter. There's no way to win platinum trophies if you use items during a level. It's the same as if you get killed and use continues, so you do get penalized.

Well, I still think its messed.

I played Chapter 2 the first time, and I fucked up the train achievement (oops). So I play the level, get an overall Bronze. Ok, I'll replay it.

Finish the 2nd go, and I wind up with a Silver. Yay! But for some reason I had a worse combo and time score, so it was actually worse. Why is this?

Not sure. Did you get killed the first time? Did you get hit a lot the first time? I think that affects your trophies as well.

As I understand, the main factors you get scored on are:

- Combos
- Time
- Damage taken
- Items/continues used

Ichirou · « **Reply #868 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:31:20 AM »

Quote from: drew on January 06, 2010, 02:26:55 AM

i only bought one witch heart, and that was after i had the beginning of a second bar

Maybe you found witch heart pieces in the stages prior? I think if you do all the Alfheim challenges, you should have enough pieces to have the beginning of a second bar by chapter 2.

demi · « **Reply #869 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:33:21 AM »

I just dont see any importance of not using items, like DMC4 did (definitely not like NG2, which I appreciated)

Ichirou · « **Reply #870 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:35:01 AM »

Whenever I used items on a stage, the best I'd ever get was a bronze trophy, and usually a stone one so I had to replay it. :/

demi · « **Reply #871 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:36:06 AM »

You can still get Bronze even if you're one of the top players on the Leaderboard, really. Its just a bungled system I think.

drew · « **Reply #872 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:39:50 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on January 06, 2010, 02:31:20 AM

Maybe you found witch heart pieces in the stages prior? I think if you do all the Alfheim challenges, you should have enough pieces to have the beginning of a second bar by chapter 2.

the only limited move special stage ive done was the one at the bottom of the spiral stair with the wind things on it, and it was the first one i found

of course i found witch heart pieces in the stages prior, i explore EVERYWHERE, im just surprised not everyone has two bars, especially people farther along than me, i was surprised when i got it too, seemed a bit early

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #873 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:56:57 AM »

Quote from: demi on January 06, 2010, 02:36:06 AM

You can still get Bronze even if you're one of the top players on the Leaderboard, really. Its just a bungled system I think.

it's because leaderboards go by either time or combo score exclusively, not by medal. The in-game scoring doesn't translate to ranking more than one person because it forgives you if you screw up one variable, but do well in another. They probably found it difficult to come up with some kind of breakdown of all variables (combo, time, item, death) that translates to an accurate rank among all the players. They'd have to quantify the importance of each variable then combine them all into one score, but doing that opens it up to serious exploitation.

For one thing, you can only do really well on combo points if you don't go for speed and vice versa. A really good player who got an impressive amount of points for a minimum amount of time won't be recognized on an "overall score" board...they'd be towards the middle. and what if they use an item or die, but still kicked ass anyway? So the scoreboards are more for making yourself deliberately go for high combo score or low time in a chapter, rather than just playing well like normal.

drew · « **Reply #874 on:** January 06, 2010, 03:13:41 AM »

so doing no hurts wont factor into the overall leaderboard?

smh

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #875 on:** January 06, 2010, 03:19:48 AM »

there is no overall leaderboard...there's a combo score one and a time one only.

demi · « **Reply #876 on:** January 06, 2010, 03:23:36 AM »

Crap scoring. DMC4 > Bayonneta

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #877 on:** January 06, 2010, 03:25:57 AM »

lazy ass statisticians

Ichirou · « **Reply #878 on:** January 06, 2010, 04:51:14 AM »

You have to replay the entire chapter.

demi · « **Reply #879 on:** January 06, 2010, 04:51:41 AM »

You can exit the chapter immediately after completing the alfheim though

Ichirou · « **Reply #880 on:** January 06, 2010, 04:52:22 AM »

Yeah, the game saves automatically after you complete the Alfheim.

iconoclast · « **Reply #881 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:22:03 AM »

Just finished this. Pretty great game overall. It's nice to finally have another action game that can hang with NG and DMC (even if it's derivative of DMC). Of course there was still plenty of stuff I didn't like:

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motorcycle and missile surfing missions are garbage, turret section to kill a boss is garbage, QTE's are garbage, button mashing for climax moves is garbage, escorting little girls is garbage, vsync and framerate issues

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The scoring system is a nice concept but it's easily abusable just from taking a look at the leaderboards (9999999 scores everywhere). I think I know how they're pulling off scores like that, so hopefully Platinum will issue a patch to fix it and wipe the leaderboards afterward. Shouldn't be too hard to fix.

Now to go collect the rest of the stuff I missed and then on to Hard mode.

chronovore · « **Reply #882 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:46:07 AM »

Quote from: drew on January 03, 2010, 08:06:20 PM

from the gaf thread

(Image removed from quote.)

can you spot what is wrong with this picture?

The idiot used a flash to take a picture of something which is, itself, a light source?

demi · « **Reply #883 on:** January 06, 2010, 11:35:07 AM »

Quote from: iconoclast on January 06, 2010, 09:22:03 AM

Just finished this. Pretty great game overall. It's nice to finally have another action game that can hang with NG and DMC (even if it's derivative of DMC). Of course there was still plenty of stuff I didn't like:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
motorcycle and missile surfing missions are garbage, turret section to kill a boss is garbage, QTE's are garbage, button mashing for climax moves is garbage, escorting little girls is garbage, vsync and framerate issues
[close]
The scoring system is a nice concept but it's easily abusable just from taking a look at the leaderboards (9999999 scores everywhere). I think I know how they're pulling off scores like that, so hopefully Platinum will issue a patch to fix it and wipe the leaderboards afterward. Shouldn't be too hard to fix.

Now to go collect the rest of the stuff I missed and then on to Hard mode.

Like I said. Great game, but It cant hang with DMC4.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #884 on:** January 06, 2010, 11:46:26 AM »

Welcome to my fantasy zone indeed.

and lol demi.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #885 on:** January 06, 2010, 11:57:04 AM »

I'm having an awfully hard time getting good scores. You have to constantly change what you're doing, the game makes me feel slow.

demi · « **Reply #886 on:** January 06, 2010, 11:58:38 AM »

Who cares, it doesnt matter what score you get. You are graded on Time and Combo. Have fun with your top score with a Stone statue.

drew · « **Reply #887 on:** January 06, 2010, 11:59:27 AM »

the scoring system might be better in dmc4, but theres no way you can say that the actual game is better

Diunx · « **Reply #888 on:** January 06, 2010, 12:31:55 PM »

How weird is it to play this game with 3 other dudes in the room? my friend ordered the game but I'm afraid of the cheeseburger character giving me an erection in front of my mates?

demi · « **Reply #889 on:** January 06, 2010, 12:33:48 PM »

Quote from: Diunx on January 06, 2010, 12:31:55 PM

How weird is it to play this game with 3 other dudes in the room? my friend ordered the game but I'm afraid of the cheeseburger character giving me an erection in front of my mates?

From what I've read, the sexually awkward are usually the ones who are offended by the game. Also, married couples whose wife have them by a leash.

If anything it's more like Kamiya's fanwank. Theres references to references and nothing but.

drew · « **Reply #890 on:** January 06, 2010, 12:48:23 PM »

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #891 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:02:29 PM »

Quote from: demi on January 06, 2010, 12:33:48 PM

Quote from: Diunx on January 06, 2010, 12:31:55 PM
How weird is it to play this game with 3 other dudes in the room? my friend ordered the game but I'm afraid of the cheeseburger character giving me an erection in front of my mates?

From what I've read, the sexually awkward are usually the ones who are offended by the game. Also, married couples whose wife have them by a leash.

If anything it's more like Kamiya's fanwank. Theres references to references and nothing but.

Yeah, it's pretty tame. The only time my wife made fun of me was when was walked into the room during the end credits,

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Bayonetta's dance music video, which was pretty stupid.

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drew · « **Reply #892 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:11:04 PM »

so i just continued my game from last night, im at the start of chapter 6, and my second bar of life is gone WTF FML

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #893 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:26:00 PM »

[youtube=560,345]Gn8-by_PM1o[/youtube]

This is stuck my head. Awesome music for fuck awesome fight.

demi · « **Reply #894 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:47:44 PM »

LOL whats with the midget baby? OMG

drew · « **Reply #895 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:50:04 PM »

yeah i just got there too

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #896 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:50:39 PM »

Cereza?

The story is pretty wtf-lol worthy, you'll see soon enough.

drew · « **Reply #897 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:52:32 PM »

wait i just lost her

demi · « **Reply #898 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:59:18 PM »

Wow and its a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow ESCORT LEVEL

FAIL

At least she regenerates her health

drew · « **Reply #899 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:59:43 PM »

i never had a prob with her, she goes into a bubble when theres enemies around

stilleto is this games version of the flying swallow (the technique not the wicked weave)

its so easy to abuse

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Author Topic: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta) (Read 142469 times)