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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #240 on: December 16, 2009, 01:40:43 PM »
Just saw it. Promises are met. Really is something I've never seen before. In that, it reminded me of the first time I saw Jurassic Park. What an event. It also realizes an alien/foreign world similar to Titanic or Lord of the Rings, but then for sci-fi.
Strory is simple, but is executed well with a nice green message. Great action movie, with heart and emotion, like they should be.
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« Reply #241 on: December 16, 2009, 01:41:57 PM »
Strory is simple, but is executed well with a nice green message.

Definitely not seeing it now.
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« Reply #242 on: December 16, 2009, 01:48:26 PM »
Strory is simple, but is executed well with a nice green message.

Definitely not seeing it now.

Durn lib'rals and their tree-hugging!

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Cameron could go for about an hour and 15 minutes on a single fill of oxygen. Because he tended to get absorbed in his work, he asked his assistant director to warn him when it had been an hour since his last fill. A few weeks into the production, Cameron was talking Mastrantonio through a shot; the actress was about 20 feet away. Giddings, about 30 feet away, was lining up the shot, with his back to Cameron. All the other divers were at the surface or rigging lights off in the distance. As Cameron spoke to Mastrantonio, he took a breath, and got no air. Perplexed, he looked down at his pressure gauge, which read zero. The AD had forgotten to give Cameron the requested one-hour warning.

The director's helmet was attached to his buoyancy vest. He knew if he removed it, it would lose its bubble of air and become a 40-lb. anchor—between the helmet and the waist and ankle weights he was wearing, Cameron would be 80 lbs. negative. With the extra weight and no fins, there was no way he could swim to the surface. Hmm. This didn't look good.

But he still had the microphone in his helmet linked to the underwater PA system. And Giddings was down there with him. So Cameron called to him, "Al... Al... I'm in trouble." The running joke on the set had been that all the other divers had to cover their ears all day long while Cameron yelled, "Al! Al! Pan left!," because the DP had ruptured two eardrums in a diving bell accident 20 years earlier, and was all but deaf from the scar tissue. Funny, but not this time. Unable to rouse Giddings, Cameron looked around for the support divers. "Guys, I'm in trouble," he said, using up the rest of the air in his lungs. He made the sign for being out of air, a cutthroat motion across the neck, and a fist to the chest. Nothing. At the bottom of a 7 million gallon tank, in the dark, 35 feet from the surface, Cameron really was in trouble. He knew he had to ditch his rig or die.

Up in the control room, Orloff had noticed the director wasn't sounding like himself. Suddenly the sound mixer heard Cameron's helmet being popped off and all the expensive electronics inside it flooding. Back in the tank, with his heavy helmet now off and fastened to his buoyancy vest by a braided steel hose, Cameron couldn't see anything but a blur. By feel, he located the release of his buoyancy vest and shrugged out of it, dropping the helmet to the floor of A Tank. Then he began what divers call a "blow and go," a free ascent. If a diver fails to breathe out during a free ascent, the compressed air in his lungs will expand as the pressure in the water around him decreases, and eventually his lungs will explode, a very painful way to die. Cameron was blowing out a stream of bubbles as he ascended, and kicking like crazy because of his ankle weights. Finally, a safety diver named George raced to the director's aid. And that's when things got bad.

Safety divers are trained to stop panicking divers from ascending, so they don't blow their lungs. So George stopped Cameron about 15 feet from the surface, as he was schooled to do, and shoved his back-up regulator into Cameron's mouth. And Cameron did what he was supposed to do, which is purge, then inhale. But the back-up regulator was broken, a useless piece of junk disguised as lifesaving equipment. So Cameron inhaled water. Thinking he had purged incorrectly, Cameron repeated the procedure, as George held him down, and got another blast of water in his lungs.

Now he was choking, about to black out, and he had a guy holding him from ascending. With no way of explaining that he wasn't getting air, Cameron tried to pull away. Thinking the director was panicking, George held him even tighter, and tried to make him breathe on the regulator. “A classic clusterfuck,” recalls Cameron. It was then that Cameron's rough SCUBA training in the Buffalo Y pool really came in handy—either that or having brothers. Because he punched George as hard as he could, right in the face. George let Cameron go and the director made it to the surface without blacking out. He swam weakly to the dive platform and dragged himself from the tank.

By the end of the day, he had fired George and his AD. And he ordered the divers at the surface to fish out his helmet and fix the microphone so he could get back down in A Tank.

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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #243 on: December 16, 2009, 01:53:12 PM »
Damn, we could've been spared Titanic and Avatar.
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #244 on: December 16, 2009, 01:56:38 PM »
So it's basically Ferngully.  I knew it.
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #245 on: December 16, 2009, 01:57:27 PM »
So it's basically Ferngully.  I knew it.
holy shit!  you're right!!

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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #246 on: December 16, 2009, 02:03:18 PM »
*aftermath of Navi tribe being defeated, despite massive army losses*

Govt official: Congratulations soldier, you did well. I understand [army dude with the makeup scars on his face] promised you something. But since he's no longer alive...
Sam Worthington: I don't want anything from you people
Govt official: Roll it out!

*an army specialist rolls out a mecha set of leg braces

Govt official: These bad boys cost a fortune, I'm sure you'll put them to good use. They're powered by the Navi minerals, don't make a peep, and a chick won't know you're packin em until she unzips your pants
Same Worthington: I fought with men and women who died to get that mineral. We were told the Navi were the enemy...but I can't help but feel the only enemy here is that mineral. It has caused more pain and suffering to us, and our environment, than the Navi ever could
Govt official: Heh, you really are as chickenshit as everyone says
Sam Worthington: *angry stare*
Govt official: Listen up soldier, the save the whales campaign ended 100 years ago. We're the dominant factor in this universe, and  you better start acting like it. We're going to keep doing what we're doing, count on it
Sam Worthington: And I'm going to be there ensuring you don't. Count on it

*wheels away in his green friendly wheelchair*
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #247 on: December 16, 2009, 02:07:38 PM »
That had better not be the real ending, PD!  :maf
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #248 on: December 16, 2009, 02:10:16 PM »
Strory is simple, but is executed well with a nice green message.

Definitely not seeing it now.
Then you're dumb as bricks for not expecting it, you anti-earther.  Besides, it's more like an ecological feeling than a message. Like when watching Life or Planet Earth.
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #249 on: December 16, 2009, 03:46:46 PM »
The film is straight up movie magic, it's the reason why you'd want to watch a movie at a theater.
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« Reply #250 on: December 16, 2009, 03:50:45 PM »
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The film is straight up movie magic, it made me want to recycle and hug a tree after I put on my furry outfit.
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« Reply #251 on: December 16, 2009, 03:57:05 PM »
Even the New Yorker liked it!  :o

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James Cameron's Avatar is the most beautiful film I’ve seen in years.

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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #252 on: December 16, 2009, 04:09:42 PM »
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The film is straight up movie magic, it made me want to recycle and hug a tree after I put on my furry outfit.
Are you the jew or am I thinking of Himuru? I always mix you two up.
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #253 on: December 16, 2009, 05:14:25 PM »
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The film is straight up movie magic, it made me want to recycle and hug a tree after I put on my furry outfit.

Are you the jew or am I thinking of Himuru? I always mix you two up.

OH FUCKING SNAP
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #254 on: December 17, 2009, 07:38:32 AM »
Going to see this tomorrow night, kind of ignored everything about this movie so all I know is 3D. Haven't watched a movie with no expectations in a long time.
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #255 on: December 17, 2009, 08:09:36 AM »
*aftermath of Navi tribe being defeated, despite massive army losses*

Govt official: Congratulations soldier, you did well. I understand [army dude with the makeup scars on his face] promised you something. But since he's no longer alive...
Sam Worthington: I don't want anything from you people
Govt official: Roll it out!

*an army specialist rolls out a mecha set of leg braces

Govt official: These bad boys cost a fortune, I'm sure you'll put them to good use. They're powered by the Navi minerals, don't make a peep, and a chick won't know you're packin em until she unzips your pants
Same Worthington: I fought with men and women who died to get that mineral. We were told the Navi were the enemy...but I can't help but feel the only enemy here is that mineral. It has caused more pain and suffering to us, and our environment, than the Navi ever could
Govt official: Heh, you really are as chickenshit as everyone says
Sam Worthington: *angry stare*
Govt official: Listen up soldier, the save the whales campaign ended 100 years ago. We're the dominant factor in this universe, and  you better start acting like it. We're going to keep doing what we're doing, count on it
Sam Worthington: And I'm going to be there ensuring you don't. Count on it

*wheels away in his green friendly wheelchair*

That's totally awful if you just ruined the ending for me, dude...
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #256 on: December 17, 2009, 08:51:53 AM »
*aftermath of Navi tribe being defeated, despite massive army losses*

Govt official: Congratulations soldier, you did well. I understand [army dude with the makeup scars on his face] promised you something. But since he's no longer alive...
Sam Worthington: I don't want anything from you people
Govt official: Roll it out!

*an army specialist rolls out a mecha set of leg braces

Govt official: These bad boys cost a fortune, I'm sure you'll put them to good use. They're powered by the Navi minerals, don't make a peep, and a chick won't know you're packin em until she unzips your pants
Same Worthington: I fought with men and women who died to get that mineral. We were told the Navi were the enemy...but I can't help but feel the only enemy here is that mineral. It has caused more pain and suffering to us, and our environment, than the Navi ever could
Govt official: Heh, you really are as chickenshit as everyone says
Sam Worthington: *angry stare*
Govt official: Listen up soldier, the save the whales campaign ended 100 years ago. We're the dominant factor in this universe, and  you better start acting like it. We're going to keep doing what we're doing, count on it
Sam Worthington: And I'm going to be there ensuring you don't. Count on it

*wheels away in his green friendly wheelchair*

That's totally awful if you just ruined the ending for me, dude...

 :o :o :o ICHI  :o :o :o

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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #257 on: December 17, 2009, 09:31:13 AM »
24 hours :hyper
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« Reply #258 on: December 17, 2009, 10:13:38 AM »
I want to see this so bad.
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #259 on: December 17, 2009, 10:18:54 AM »
Saw this today. I think it's my duty to kill the hype a little. All the critics fawning over this film like it's some new-age movie milestone is starting to get on my nerves.

First off, the 3d. There is nothing new here. I watched it realD, and to be honest, yes there are some cool moments and this is one of the better uses of the technology but it's still the same effect. Objects often feel distorted and smudged and this is more evident in the live action scenes where peoples faces and scenery get distorted. I wouldn't call it a gimmick just yet, but whole the effect feels superficial, like all the 3d films I've seen so far. If this is going to be you're first foray into 3d cinema then, you will definitely enjoy it. But if like me, this is you're 5th or 6th 3D film, than you won't really be impressed by anything shown here. In fact, its distorted quality will likely make you wish you were watching this in 2d. 

I think it's telling when the best use of 3D I've seen in a cinema still remains the Spongebob Squarepants ident just before 'A Christmas Carol'.


The story is kinda weak. Like Genghis Cohen said, you've likely seen this movie in some shape or form before. Some of the exposition felt a lot like Final Fantasy-esque backstory lol.

Performances are average. Half the time I couldn't tell if our lead guy was Australian or American - though Zoe Saldana does a pretty stand-up job as the female Naa'vi. Oh and this is definitely the most furrisome movie I've seen this year. If you can't stand that sort of thing, don't watch this movie.

Most of the movie is scenery and exposition, the final action set-pieces don't really make up for that either. erm... cool explosions though. 

so, story: weak / performances: average / cg: good enough.

Overall if you wan't to watch a pretty jungle adventure with bare-butt tribal people then you should rent Apocalypto on blu-ray instead. 

I think the movie will do well enough though, I think it hits the pubescent teenage demographic quite well, there were alot of kids lining up after my screening.

better than Abyss, not as good as T2 or Aliens :bow

'bout the same level as Titanic, I think, though it's beena while sice I've seen that.

 


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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #260 on: December 17, 2009, 10:23:39 AM »
Seeing it in about 30 hours

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« Reply #261 on: December 17, 2009, 10:27:04 AM »
I found out from the producers I work with that Avatar was mixing as late as last Sunday. Geez.
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #262 on: December 17, 2009, 02:44:19 PM »
Tonight's the night!

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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #263 on: December 17, 2009, 02:55:03 PM »
Saw this today. I think it's my duty to kill the hype a little. All the critics fawning over this film like it's some new-age movie milestone is starting to get on my nerves.

First off, the 3d. There is nothing new here. I watched it realD, and to be honest, yes there are some cool moments and this is one of the better uses of the technology but it's still the same effect. Objects often feel distorted and smudged and this is more evident in the live action scenes where peoples faces and scenery get distorted. I wouldn't call it a gimmick just yet, but whole the effect feels superficial, like all the 3d films I've seen so far. If this is going to be you're first foray into 3d cinema then, you will definitely enjoy it. But if like me, this is you're 5th or 6th 3D film, than you won't really be impressed by anything shown here. In fact, its distorted quality will likely make you wish you were watching this in 2d. 

I think it's telling when the best use of 3D I've seen in a cinema still remains the Spongebob Squarepants ident just before 'A Christmas Carol'.


The story is kinda weak. Like Genghis Cohen said, you've likely seen this movie in some shape or form before. Some of the exposition felt a lot like Final Fantasy-esque backstory lol.

Performances are average. Half the time I couldn't tell if our lead guy was Australian or American - though Zoe Saldana does a pretty stand-up job as the female Naa'vi. Oh and this is definitely the most furrisome movie I've seen this year. If you can't stand that sort of thing, don't watch this movie.

Most of the movie is scenery and exposition, the final action set-pieces don't really make up for that either. erm... cool explosions though. 

so, story: weak / performances: average / cg: good enough.

Overall if you wan't to watch a pretty jungle adventure with bare-butt tribal people then you should rent Apocalypto on blu-ray instead. 

I think the movie will do well enough though, I think it hits the pubescent teenage demographic quite well, there were alot of kids lining up after my screening.

better than Abyss, not as good as T2 or Aliens :bow

'bout the same level as Titanic, I think, though it's beena while sice I've seen that.

 



Better than which Abyss? The extended cut is pretty fucking awesome.
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #264 on: December 17, 2009, 03:18:46 PM »
Haven't seen the extended edition. And to be honest it's been years since I've seen the original cut anyway. In fact, I retract that statement, Avatar probably isn't as good as Abyss.

Let's just say Avatar didn't do anything for me. It's probably not as good as Titanic either.

Maybe I need time to meditate on it.

Or maybe once enough people have seen it on this board we might reach the consensus that Avatar is one of Cameron's worst films.

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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #265 on: December 17, 2009, 03:26:28 PM »
Oh god, here comes the contrarion police, headed by InfectedGib.
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« Reply #266 on: December 17, 2009, 03:29:17 PM »
I thought his review was pretty reasonable, a lot more than yours. He seems to echo the sentiment made by most reviewers, but doesn't award the film the Oscar for Best Film in Ever and Ever simply because it looks pretty.

Blinders on much?
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« Reply #267 on: December 17, 2009, 03:31:29 PM »
I wouldn't deem my short post worthy of being called a review.

How can you say it's reasonable when you haven't seen the movie. Judging a review based on reviews by other people.

Gaf much?
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« Reply #268 on: December 17, 2009, 03:34:25 PM »
I can say it's reasonable when it seems to jive with pretty much what everyone else is saying, except (as stated) InfectedGib doesn't feel the need to praise the film with hyperbole based solely on its technical merits.

The film looks good. The story is not so good. Average performances. What's so different from his review and the majority of the positive ones on Rotten Tomatoes?

Oh yeah, he's not gunning for a quote on the Blu-ray box art.
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« Reply #269 on: December 17, 2009, 03:39:07 PM »
Yeah, it's not like he came in and posted, "This fucking sucks! James Cameron should eat shit and then die, and then my friends and I will take turns bricking on his shallow grave for the two-plus hours we just wasted!"*

It was reasonable and well stated, and seemed to jive with what we've already heard. It didn't have a lot of hyperbole.

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« Reply #270 on: December 17, 2009, 03:40:09 PM »
Sorry, Tieno. I went into the theatre with an open-mind, even somewhat excited.

The script just felt flimsy, the dialogue half-hearted and trite. Cameron can write better than this.  

Yes it's pretty, but it's not absorbing.


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« Reply #271 on: December 17, 2009, 03:53:06 PM »
The backlash on this one is going to be epic.  It will tear the internet in two.

We've already weathered the Perfect Storm*, everything after that is just a brief rain shower.

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« Reply #272 on: December 17, 2009, 04:35:45 PM »
AV Club comes with the real talk: C

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Look past the New Age beauty of Cameron’s Pandora—and whenever the camera swoops through its verdant, psychedelic wonders, that isn’t easy to do—and Avatar is a weak patchwork of his other films: the leaden voiceover from Terminator 2 here, the military/civilian conflict from Aliens there, even a Jack-and-Rose-style forbidden love story cued to adult-contempo soundtrack. And if that weren’t enough, Cameron tacks on ham-handed environmental messages and a one-size-fits-all anti-war metaphor that references Native Americans, Vietnam, and the current oil-fueled quagmires. In the past, charismatic actors (Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sigourney Weaver, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Kate Winslet) have usually covered for Cameron’s weaknesses as a screenwriter, but Worthington can do nothing to animate his stock warrior. On a story level, Cameron has invested the bare minimum necessary to call Avatar into existence, and while there’s no doubting his meticulousness, the film is more demo than drama.
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« Reply #273 on: December 17, 2009, 04:42:53 PM »
completely agree with that quote

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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #274 on: December 17, 2009, 04:44:24 PM »
:bow AV Club :bow2
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #275 on: December 17, 2009, 04:50:37 PM »
:bow

fuck Avatar.

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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #276 on: December 17, 2009, 04:58:31 PM »
Got my ticket :hyper :hyper :hyper
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« Reply #277 on: December 17, 2009, 06:33:11 PM »
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« Reply #278 on: December 17, 2009, 06:33:53 PM »
AV Club comes with the real talk: C

Quote from: AV Club
Look past the New Age beauty of Cameron’s Pandora—and whenever the camera swoops through its verdant, psychedelic wonders, that isn’t easy to do—and Avatar is a weak patchwork of his other films: the leaden voiceover from Terminator 2 here, the military/civilian conflict from Aliens there, even a Jack-and-Rose-style forbidden love story cued to adult-contempo soundtrack. And if that weren’t enough, Cameron tacks on ham-handed environmental messages and a one-size-fits-all anti-war metaphor that references Native Americans, Vietnam, and the current oil-fueled quagmires. In the past, charismatic actors (Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sigourney Weaver, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Kate Winslet) have usually covered for Cameron’s weaknesses as a screenwriter, but Worthington can do nothing to animate his stock warrior. On a story level, Cameron has invested the bare minimum necessary to call Avatar into existence, and while there’s no doubting his meticulousness, the film is more demo than drama.

A "C" spectacle flick is still worth seeing imo, and that isn't how you guys have been treating this.  You'd think Cameron held you down and forced you into a fursuit or something.
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« Reply #279 on: December 17, 2009, 06:35:26 PM »
I think it's exactly how we've been treating it. It's no different than the reaction you would have if the rest of us were hyping a mediocre film that gets by on spectacle alone, the only difference here is that you like James Cameron.
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« Reply #280 on: December 17, 2009, 06:37:52 PM »
"I think it's exactly how we've been treating it. It's no different than the reaction you would have if the rest of us were hyping a mediocre film that gets by on spectacle alone, the only difference here is that you like James Cameron."

I don't see you guys bashing Dark Knight this hard.
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« Reply #281 on: December 17, 2009, 06:39:02 PM »
Are you kidding? Prole & Co. bashed the hell out of The Dark Knight. This is the same exact reaction!

... the only difference is, The Dark Knight was a good movie.
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #282 on: December 17, 2009, 06:40:14 PM »
Are you kidding? Prole & Co. bashed the hell out of The Dark Knight. This is the same exact reaction!

... the only difference is, The Dark Knight was a good movie.

Yeah, the thing is that you don't KNOW that Avatar sucks, since you haven't seen it.  :smug
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« Reply #283 on: December 17, 2009, 06:42:21 PM »
Yeah, like I said, The Dark Knight might have been ridiculously overhyped, but at least it was a good movie.

Strip away the digital 3D picture and furry special effects, Avatar is apparently pretty mediocre.
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« Reply #284 on: December 17, 2009, 06:44:32 PM »
Yeah, the thing is that you don't KNOW that Avatar sucks, since you haven't seen it.  :smug

It doesn't take a soothsayer after reading just the positive reviews. If I manage to see it, maybe on an in-air flight or something - and it doesn't suck - I am man enough to admit it.
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: C (B- adjusted to Transformers scale)
« Reply #285 on: December 17, 2009, 06:51:07 PM »
I won't be seeing this as it has two of the things I don't like watching the most: sci-fi and furries.

Good luck Cameron.
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: C (B- adjusted to Transformers scale)
« Reply #286 on: December 17, 2009, 06:51:20 PM »
furfags annihilated

The Fantastic Mr. Fox was their #3 movie of the year. :lol
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: Best Picture & Best Direction of 2009
« Reply #287 on: December 17, 2009, 06:51:50 PM »
Yeah, the thing is that you don't KNOW that Avatar sucks, since you haven't seen it.  :smug

It doesn't take a soothsayer after reading just the positive reviews. If I manage to see it, maybe on an in-air flight or something - and it doesn't suck - I am man enough to admit it.

My mind is just boggled that you not only intentionally saw Bayformers but obviously on some level think that it is going to be a better movie/more enjoyable than Avatar.
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: C (B- adjusted to Transformers scale)
« Reply #288 on: December 17, 2009, 06:52:19 PM »
do the giant blue animals fuck in this
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: C (B- adjusted to Transformers scale)
« Reply #289 on: December 17, 2009, 06:59:17 PM »
"unobtainium"

god, please take away james cameron's access to all forms of communication

in return i will go to church once, on a time and date when i don't have anything else to do

that's a fair trade, i don't ask for much
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: C (B- adjusted to Transformers scale)
« Reply #290 on: December 17, 2009, 07:04:48 PM »
"unobtainium"

god, please take away james cameron's access to all forms of communication

"Unobtanium" has been used by engineers since the 50's and in FORMAL ENGINEERING PAPERS as early as the 90's.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/science/unobtainium-intro.html
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: May be too awesome for some.
« Reply #291 on: December 17, 2009, 07:05:51 PM »
that totally makes it less of a stupid word
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: May be too awesome for some.
« Reply #292 on: December 17, 2009, 07:08:26 PM »
I'll watch it 4 times in theaters; one for myself and the rest for Prole, Cohen and Willco. I'm sure Cameron will appreciate the money more than your support.

Jin is a true cinéaste, I would be proud to make out with him in a showing of Avatar.
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: May be too awesome for some.
« Reply #293 on: December 17, 2009, 07:09:45 PM »
that totally makes it less of a stupid word

Stupid or not, it's the term that's been used for decades for just the type of material that's in the movie.
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: May be too awesome for some.
« Reply #294 on: December 17, 2009, 07:12:34 PM »
i understand that, but when used in a film that's about giant blue animals it comes off as twee and distinguished mentally-challenged
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: May be too awesome for some.
« Reply #295 on: December 17, 2009, 07:14:55 PM »
"We're going down to Pandora to infiltrate the Na'vi with our Avatars and mine their Unobtainium."

CRINGE
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: May be too awesome for some.
« Reply #296 on: December 17, 2009, 07:16:10 PM »
Well, I guess he could have just made up a stupid word like "gravitainium" or "spaceageium" or whatever.
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: May be too awesome for some.
« Reply #297 on: December 17, 2009, 07:16:41 PM »
"We're going down to Pandora to infiltrate the Na'vi with our Avatars and mine their Unobtainium."

CRINGE

Good God, it already has better writing than Juno! Best Picture, fo sho.
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: May be too awesome for some.
« Reply #298 on: December 17, 2009, 07:19:30 PM »
i hope you don't expect me to argue that
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Re: Early consensus on Avatar: May be too awesome for some.
« Reply #299 on: December 17, 2009, 07:24:54 PM »
i'll likely watch this at some point

i have a weird friend who likes to edit action scenes from movies into clip DVDs and play them in the background when we're all hanging out at his house

that's how i watched pearl harbor, that's how i'll watch avatar

keep that in mind when i bump this thread a year from now and say i thought it was a pretty good flick
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