Avatar: Willco still hates it

[The Fake Shemp]

We're not talking about my opinion, we're talking about Pulitzer Prize-winning Roger Ebert. I know it's difficult, but please try to keep up Green Shinobi. For Cameron's sake.

EDIT: I like your edit.

[The Fake Shemp]

The Oscar is for Best Picture, it is awarded to the best picture, not the most fun I had at the movie theaters.

[Great Rumbler]

He put Knowing in his Top 10 though.

Man, Avatar must really suck then!

His love for Knowing is really inexplicable. It's got a couple of really amazing scenes, but that's really all there is to it.

The good things about Avatar are at least present throughout nearly the entire movie.

[Barry Egan]

EDIT: I like your edit.

Mystery solved 

[The Fake Shemp]

If fun were the only aspect that the cinematic experience encompasses, you'd have a point, but there are many other things that go into it, like emotional gravity, how much the film makes you think, etc.

Yeah, those really seem to be Avatar's strong points.

Considering the emotional gravity of being schlepped to eternal damnation, and how much the film made me think about the repercussions of declining loans to old gypsy ladies, Drag Me to Hell is a lock for a Best Picture nomination!*

spoiler (click to show/hide)

* At the 2009 Annual Glen Shinobi Questionable Film Choice™ Awards ... sponsored by Tampax®

[close]

[Barry Egan]

hosted by

[Donono]

Maybe the best part about the Avatar experience was when during a preview before the movie, Liam Neeson, apparently playing some sort of ancient and powerful god, yelled, "Unleash the Kraken!"

Someone in the theater then said, "That's what she said."

[The Fake Shemp]

Actually, all you needed to say was this:

I like Muse.

[Solo]

Id LOVE to see Cameron try and be even more arrogant than he was with Titanic if Avatar won an Oscar  

[BlueTsunami]

and Best Picture goes too...

Uncharted 2.

But isn't that a video game?

It was but it had the best cinematic experience, transcending its medium

Oh my

[The Fake Shemp]

Only a complete idiot would use someone's music taste to try to discredit him in a thread about a movie.

I apologize. You're right.

... I should have posted this:

I think Peter Jackson's King Kong is one of the best films of all-time!

That kind of person would be almost as big an idiot as a guy who spends hours arguing about a film he hasn't even seen.

... What does that say about the person who argues with that guy?

EDIT: BlueTsunami

[The Fake Shemp]

[youtube=560,345]avr7enrZuJQ[/youtube]

[BlueTsunami]

I'm just joking with you GS! I'm like the George Costanza of the Internets, everyone has to like me :'( Accept my apologyyyyy!

[youtube=560,345]avr7enrZuJQ[/youtube]

[Diunx]

This thread only needs a Jinfash shop to become a classic.

James Cameron

[Herr Mafflard]

If fun were the only aspect that the cinematic experience encompasses, you'd have a point, but there are many other things that go into it, like emotional gravity, how much the film makes you think, etc.

You really are a fucking dumbass, Federman.

but really, how much did you care about characters that are walking one-dimensional caricatures. They have all the nuances and imperfections of video-game heroes/villains. There is not a single character you can get emotionally invested in. I also think it's a bit cynical and churlish of Cameron to make his hero a paraplegic war veteran. He doesn't need to have depth or personality, he's a cripple.

It's a good movie if you like long, pondering parables that attempt to keep your attention by sweeping away depth, subtlety and story under a facade of pyrotechnic effects, jungle landscapes and giant, lumbering apes and twelve-foot blue aliens.

[CajoleJuice]

Will Leitch, he of DEADSPIN fame, joins the Avatar bandwagon:

http://leitch.tumblr.com/post/293515120/avatar-1-it-doesnt-take-long-for-you-to-realize

5. Scott Tobias, the excellent film critic for The Onion A/V Club, says once the breakthrough technology of this film becomes commonplace, Avatar will seem like “a Captain EO for our time.” I see his point — take away the special effects, and this is an empty shell of a film — but I am far from certain future filmmakers will use Cameron’s technique with the precision and meticulousness that he does. The comparisons with Star Wars, I suspect, are apt. (It makes one feel a little old that parents are comparing their children’s reactions to this film with theirs with Star Wars.) Avatar doesn’t have the icons of Lucas’ film, and it’s certainly less epic and eternal in nature. But it showed me something I have never seen before. It reminded me of what movies can do, of what they’re capable of, of what the experience of sitting down for three hours in a dark room can really mean. I’ll never forget the first time I saw it. Time will never change that. I might look back at Avatar in 20 years and, as the technology evolves, see through a lot of its tricks. That doesn’t mean, however, that I won’t always remember what it meant to see it for the first time, to see what the future might hold, to feel like, no matter how many movies you see, you can always be amazed, you can always go back to that first experience, again, and ever. My jaw is still on the floor.

LOOK WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO MISS OUT ON, WILLCO

[The Fake Shemp]

It truly is a Captain EO for our time.

... and good show, InfectedGib.

[Kestastrophe]

I didn't think the film was that good, but it was still worth a watch. You should see it Will

[Mandark]

Why are you trying to be a writer, Willco? Why not go into producing? As much as I hate to say it, you'd make a great suit. You value profit over imagination, you're closed-minded, you have a pretty archaic way of looking at things - you could probably become top brass at a number of studios.

Only a complete idiot would use someone's music taste to try to discredit him in a thread about a movie. That kind of person would be almost as big an idiot as a guy who spends hours arguing about a film he hasn't even seen.

From page 2 of this very thread:

How the fuck can anyone call one of the most action-packed films of all time boring?

Worse yet, how can a film snob like Willco hate on a movie that had some of the best directing of this decade?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised. This is, after all, the same forum that hates Muse with a passion.

[The Fake Shemp]

I didn't think the film was that good, but it was still worth a watch. You should see it Will

I probably will eventually, on Blu-ray or cable. I'm not paying money to see it, though.

[Tauntaun]

I didn't think the film was that good, but it was still worth a watch. You should see it Will

I probably will eventually, on Blu-ray or cable. I'm not paying money to see it, though.

 

[Great Rumbler]

Willco will gush over Avatar after the Bluray comes out.

[The Fake Shemp]

I didn't think the film was that good, but it was still worth a watch. You should see it Will

I probably will eventually, on Blu-ray or cable. I'm not paying money to see it, though.

 

How dare people rent movies they don't want to pay money to see in theaters! They're nothing but common thieves!

Willco will gush over Avatar after the Bluray comes out.

Unlikely. I will probably rave about its technical achievements, because I would expect no less from Cameron, but that won't excuse shoddy storytelling.

[fistfulofmetal]

going to see it again next Saturday in RealD this time.

[Ichirou]

Green Shinobi needs to chill, he's just making the sharks in the water more excited.

[The Fake Shemp]

I think you've missed TaunTaun's point.

Which is that I should pay money to see something I have no desire to see?

[Tauntaun]

I think you've missed TaunTaun's point.

This.

[Mandark]

That by watching it as part of a monthly-fee service, you're implicitly paying for it, I guess.

[Solo]

By the way, the estimates were $4M too low. The actuals are at $77.3M, making it the highest grossing December opener ever, as well as the highest grossing opening weekend worldwide for a non-franchise, non-sequel movie. It also only dropped 3%. Sorry Feder, but its going to have great legs.

[The Fake Shemp]

We will see, Solo. That's kind of a tough call to make, y'know, this first weekend.

[Solo]

We will see, Solo. That's kind of a tough call to make, y'know, this first weekend.

If the movie had made $50M opening night, then tailed off to $30M and $25M after that, like so many blockbusters, Id agree. But sure, we'll wait. When it takes the top spot over Holmes next weekend, it will be clear.

[Great Rumbler]

Fox execs are already saying that it could make almost as much in its seconds weekend as its first. I'm pretty skeptical about that, but if the snowstorm really kept that many people at home and the Christmas holiday brings even more people out, it could happen.

[Phoenix Dark]

Willco have you seen it yet?

[Solo]

Fox execs are already saying that it could make almost as much in its seconds weekend as its first. I'm pretty skeptical about that, but if the snowstorm really kept that many people at home and the Christmas holiday brings even more people out, it could happen.

That will never happen in a million years. However, a 30% drop wouldnt surprise me.

[CajoleJuice]

I will most likely be part of the second weekend, along with some friends.

[Solo]

I will most likely be part of the second weekend, along with some friends.

Good man! Pre-6 months ago, I would tell you that you'd hate it. But then you loved Speed Racer, so now I can't gauge one way or the other 

[Purple Filth]

Willco have you seen it yet?

He still hasn't but it continues to make this thread hilarious.

[The Fake Shemp]

If the movie had made $50M opening night, then tailed off to $30M and $25M after that, like so many blockbusters, Id agree. But sure, we'll wait. When it takes the top spot over Holmes next weekend, it will be clear.

I already said like four pages back that I would be shocked if it didn't stay number one next weekend. I'm not doubt it'll make some bank, the question was will it be enough to truly justify such a ridiculously expensive production.

... Cajole loved Speed Racer because that movie is legitimately good, and he has something we at The Bore like to call "taste".

EDIT: Maurice, as evident by the fact that I have said I do not wish to see Avatar, have no desire to see Avatar and certainly will not financially support Avatar... I have not seen Avatar.

[Great Rumbler]

Like I said before, Willco will gush over it after he sees in on Bluray. And then lament that he passed up the chance to see it in 3D in theaters.

[fistfulofmetal]

Avatar > Speed Racer.

[demi]

Willco have you seen it yet?

He still hasn't but it continues to make this thread hilarious.

He must have dropped at least 50 hours on this thread alone, he can't say it sucks

[/dragonage]

[Solo]

Like I said before, Willco will gush over it after he sees in on Bluray. And then lament that he passed up the chance to see it in 3D in theaters.

Why will Feder support Michael Bay and not Cameron?

[Great Rumbler]

Like I said before, Willco will gush over it after he sees in on Bluray. And then lament that he passed up the chance to see it in 3D in theaters.

Why will Feder support Michael Bay and not Cameron?

[The Fake Shemp]

To be fair, I would have seen Transformers even if Uwe Boll directed it. When I had no desire to see the material, such as Armageddon or Pearl Harbor, I did not pay money to see those films in theaters.

... And like I said, I'll have access to a Blu-ray 3D home theater setup, so I'll be able to see Avatar in all its splendor.

[fistfulofmetal]

jinfash you're something else

[Tauntaun]

... And like I said, I'll have access to a Blu-ray 3D home theater setup, so I'll be able to see Avatar in all its splendor.

By then, it'll be too late to give an objective or favorable opinion. I mean...

Willco is going to be eating a lot of crow come February.

   \
(Image removed from quote.)

These people will shred you.

[Kestastrophe]

I SEE YOU

[The Fake Shemp]

 

[BlueTsunami]

[Barry Egan]

give Jin his own Icon forum

[The Fake Shemp]

He already was Double Icon'd!

[Robo]

Jinfash for triple icon

ban everyone else

[Brehvolution]

 

[BlueTsunami]

You must obtain the unobtainium from the planets natives

How will I do this if I cannot walk?

Sit in this device

Ok...

...

Mmmmmmmm

[Tauntaun]

  Hot damn blue.

[Phoenix Dark]

 

[Purple Filth]

... And like I said, I'll have access to a Blu-ray 3D home theater setup, so I'll be able to see Avatar in all its splendor.

By then, it'll be too late to give an objective or favorable opinion. I mean...

Willco is going to be eating a lot of crow come February.

   \
(Image removed from quote.)

These people will shred you.

 

You must obtain the unobtainium from the planets natives

How will I do this if I cannot walk?

Sit in this device

Ok...

(Image removed from quote.) ...

Mmmmmmmm

 

[Solo]

I just introduced your emoticon to GAF, Jin 

[Mandark]

 

I know what I'm going to be seeing in my nightmares, but it's totally worth it.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

can we sacrifice an existing icon to Jinfash?