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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3961 on: June 01, 2016, 07:25:53 PM »
Finished reading Preacher.  Hmmm, was alright.  I don't think I'll watch the show.  I really disliked how the 2nd half focused primarily on the love triangle and how Tulip is basically a character just used as a plot device for Jesse/Cassidy's relationship.  The tone is all over the fucking place with Herr Starr becoming a looney toons-esque total comic villain.  Like by the end the series is way more a comedy than it starts trying to be edge dark cool.  Jesse was an ok lead but his morality was all over the place and often he'd make totally weird out of character decisions like
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when he's the sheriff of the texas town and gets to know this old german guy trying to make a second life for himself and then at the end of the arc he finds out the guy was a german war criminal and the guy asks for second chances and jesse gives the old guy a noose and tells him to hang himself.

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and I never really thought he was that compelling lead the series needed.  Cassidy was just alright too by the end.  All the heaven/hell supernatural type stuff was barely used in the 2nd half and it wasn't particularly stabbing at religion or controversial in today's age of picking apart religion in media.  Hell I just finished the final boss of Shin Megami Tensei IV Final the other week where:

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You kill god by using atheist arguments to deconstruct the concept of the one true god.
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  Maybe it was more shocking in the 90s.  At the end of the day it was entertaining, Ennis is good at that, but I wish the 2nd half had been a lot stronger and more interesting and less love triangle angst straight out of a manga.  To a degree, with a lot of the tropes, angst and ultra-violence it feels very manga-esque.

 
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« Reply #3962 on: June 01, 2016, 08:06:56 PM »
Thinking more about Jesse, it's such a weird lead character.  Like I get that he's supposed to be a guy with some good and bad in him which is why he is bonded with Genesis.  But the way he's written, it's less like an anti-hero (Saint of Killers is more like that), and more like a bipolar person who on some pages will use his powers to rob a bank, orl kill or beat-up a non-bad guy just cause he's annoyed and then will turn around and save a person or stop a crime on a different page.  I guess I find it just makes him feel less consistent like a believable character you can kind of root for and more like a sorta interesting but kind of crazy character you just sort of follow to see where the story goes.  I guess that's one aspect they can kind of work on in the TV adaptation. 

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« Reply #3963 on: June 01, 2016, 10:33:24 PM »
Civil War II was not what I expected.  Found it to be just OK.  They also seem to be building this up to be Team Iron Man vs. Team Captain....Marvel, not America.

The plot centers around a new Inhuman who gets visions of the future.  I guess Bendis was watching the last season of Shield on TV?

The divide is over using him to stop things before they happen.  It ends with
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3964 on: June 02, 2016, 01:45:25 AM »
My only issue with Preacher is as you said:

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The entire love triangle arc and the whole sheriff stuff, which felt like filler before the actual end game. Cassidy is a piece of shit anyway as much as I love him, the whole love triangle thing wasn't needed to get them to fight and the whole sheriff thing didn't amount to anything.
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I love the comic, warts and all. But I can see where you're coming from. The show sucks so I wouldn't really watch it anyway.
I've not read that part since its initial release, but I remember the "love triangle" only being about Cassidy being a horrible, abusive, needy, pathetic walking shitstain. It was on him; Cassidy used another person's addiction to get them addicted to him. If I had any empathy for Cassidy, that sequence destroyed it utterly.

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« Reply #3965 on: June 02, 2016, 09:18:17 PM »
http://imgur.com/gallery/h2my0

New to me.

Long, but good and thought-provoking.

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« Reply #3966 on: June 02, 2016, 09:36:31 PM »
Superman: Rebirth #1 was fun in a really comic-geeky way.  It's clearly written for long-time DC fans who know the Death of Superman arc, but it does a decent job of setting Supes up for a full return in his own series.

Batman: Rebirth #1 was sort of a waste of time. It's comforting and annoying at the same time to see Tim King fellate Duke Thomas with the same fervor as Scott Snyder did. But at least Scott created him so it's kinda understandable. Duke is slightly more interesting than Bat-Wing, but that's not saying a whole lot. Also, his bright yellow suit and hero name ("Lark") are so laughably out of place in the Batman universe I don't know what else to say. Yeah, Robin has bright colors and a bird-based name, but that role was invented in 1940. At least try to keep it classy.

(His suit is also easily confused with Kid Flash's yellow getup IMO.)

http://imgur.com/gallery/h2my0

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Long, but good and thought-provoking.

Saw it coming.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3967 on: June 03, 2016, 09:38:57 AM »
Read all four Rebirths from this week.  Green Arrow was by far the best, Superman was OK, and Batman and Green Lantern were sort of just there.  Not bad, but more of the same. 
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« Reply #3968 on: June 03, 2016, 06:43:49 PM »
Read all the Preacher spin-off comics.  One thing I really have to say is Ennis did a great job in the series making entertaining characters.  Even the spin-offs about terrible characters like Jody and the guy who fucks animals are highly entertaining.  Like I'd always be down to read Preacher stuff because it'd just be fun to see the characters hang out and get into adventures.  I think in this way Preacher is a good fit for a TV series.  Once you establish the main 3 characters, you can just make them get into episodic arcs and it'll be entertaining because they're fun to watch.

I guess my takeway from Preacher is that I enjoyed the characters a lot, but the actually story was just ok.

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I just learned about this and wtf this is the dumbest retcon I've ever seen.  It really doesn't work continuity-wise at all.  Then again I'm still back in 2006 on my Marvel catch-up so maybe it will make sense when I get to 2016.  About to get to Civil War 1 (yay :\). 



My only issue with Preacher is as you said:

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The entire love triangle arc and the whole sheriff stuff, which felt like filler before the actual end game. Cassidy is a piece of shit anyway as much as I love him, the whole love triangle thing wasn't needed to get them to fight and the whole sheriff thing didn't amount to anything.
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I love the comic, warts and all. But I can see where you're coming from. The show sucks so I wouldn't really watch it anyway.
I've not read that part since its initial release, but I remember the "love triangle" only being about Cassidy being a horrible, abusive, needy, pathetic walking shitstain. It was on him; Cassidy used another person's addiction to get them addicted to him. If I had any empathy for Cassidy, that sequence destroyed it utterly.

But see, Cassidy wasn't that way until Ennis decided to make his character's past into that. 
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  Like if you don't know anything about Cassidy's past and you just judge him by his actions in the comic, he's a sad tragic character who is lonely and a screw up but acts all cool and uses humor to hide his feelings, and really wants to fit in and have a friend in Jesse. 

At first he's a guy and when he's drunk he hits on Tulip because it's not that weird or bad, that when he's been spending every day with only one female, who the characters seem to find really hot, that he develops feelings and when he's drunk he hits on her.  Like I don't look down on him at all for that, even Jesse almost cheats on Tulip with her friend Amy in the past when the 3 are spending a lot of time together as shown in one of the spin-offs. 

But then Ennis decided to keep pushing Cassidy as a shitty person, and have him start suddenly putting on more pressure on Tulip and being a dick about it and then taking advantage while Jesse's gone.  Then he goes into the flashback and makes him out into a horrible person.  Basically, all of this was totally unnecessary.  In the end Jesse even forgives him and takes his hand.  That ending sequence would have worked even without all of this crap and just if Cassidy tried to get with Tulip behind his back.

Anyhow, all that stuff was stupid and angsty and tropey and it wasted the good character of Cassidy, fucked up the enjoyable dynamic of the trio, turned Tulip into nothing but a plot device for Jesse/Cassidy, introduced a lot of secrets and drama about "Should I tell Jesse??".  It was all negative material that brought down otherwise enjoyable material going on in the story.  It doesn't sink the story but it was unnecessary and just makes it a lot worse.  It's the kind of stuff I expect in teenage comics.
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I really hope the show just dodges that all aspect.  Like if the show just established the 3 as a group and then has them going off on adventures, it'll be a fun show.

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« Reply #3969 on: June 04, 2016, 04:44:13 PM »
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So, about this.  Nobody is mentioning what actually happens at the end:

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Cap is given two younger USA themed heroes to work with that he teamed up with in the past, IIRC.  I forget the girl's name but the guy is Jack Flag.  At the end, Cap is in a quinjet-like ship fighting Baron Zemo.  Jack jumps aboard to help.  Cap straight pushes him right out of the jet to his death before uttering "hail hydra".
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Cold blooded.

As for why this happened, it has to be because of the Red Skull.  If you read the first issue, you'll notice that the black and white flashback scenes all have touches of red.  This has got to be symbolizing that it was the Red Skull fucking with Cap's memories.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3971 on: June 07, 2016, 10:43:59 PM »
Detective Comics returns to its original numbering tomorrow!

Issue #934 hits tomorrow and I'm excited. :hyper

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This is finally the book where I get to pay all that off and bring them forward. And I get to do it, also, side by side with Tim Drake, Red Robin, who is literally my favorite character that exists in all of comics. Every single issue of this run, I think, will show how much I really love the character, because he's right at the heart of what they're building here.

James Tynion with that epic sweet-talking for my favorite comic character. :preach

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But the heart of Rebirth was the idea of reclaiming the past while building a new and powerful future. And that is right at the heart of this book.

I mean, we put Tim Drake back in a much more familiar costume!

I appreciate the thought but I still don't get why Red Robin's costume has... green. :wtf His red/black suit post-Infinite Crisis was easily his most popular one.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3972 on: June 11, 2016, 06:58:26 PM »
I read Volume 1 of Warren Ellis' Injection and it was sooooooooo good.  Super pumped for Volume 2 in August.  Really need to stop reading all these hip new indie comic volumes 1s because I want to read the whole series at once and not follow it slowly for 6 years.  So far Descender, Deadly Class and Injection have all been 4/4 perfect and now I'm following all three damnit.

What are some really good 4/4 A+++ non-Marvel/DC comics from like 5-10 years ago that are finished?  I've read Y: The Last Man, The Losers, Preacher, maybe a couple of others but that's off the top of my head.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3973 on: June 15, 2016, 05:57:09 AM »
Batman #1  :omg :neogaf :gladbron :lawd

that's how you relaunch a series  :whew

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« Reply #3974 on: June 15, 2016, 12:54:49 PM »
Well that tells us a lot, thanks.
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« Reply #3975 on: June 17, 2016, 01:54:18 AM »
Started reading Locke & Key because I thought it was only 6 issues so hey why not.  Found out at the end it's like 6 volumes of 6 issues each :X  But now I wanna know what happens even if it's stupid edgy and the art is awful.  Also I thought I was gonna like Joe Hill since I thought Horns was flawed but neat, but I picked up his 20th Century Ghosts short story anthology that's supposed to be his best writing and I couldn't even finish the book it was so lame.  I'll give Locke & Key the whole series but if it's not good by the end I'm done with Joe Hill and he ain't his dad Stephen King by any stretch.

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« Reply #3976 on: June 17, 2016, 11:27:39 AM »
Well that tells us a lot, thanks.

Batman basically has to stop a plane from hitting a building, and does so by riding on top of it, strapping a jet to one side, and turning it 90 degrees so it flies between the buildings. Just as it's about to hit the water and Batman dies, it's stopped by two Superman-esque "heroes" wearing "Bat"-themed clothing.

Personally I didn't really care for it (best part was Alfred the G), but I'm intrigued to see where it goes.

Anyways I forgot Detective Comics is bimonthly and I'm much more excited for next Wednesday's issue. Timmy!!! :hyper

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« Reply #3977 on: June 17, 2016, 11:47:12 AM »
Are those two 'heroes' the ones literally calling themselves "Gotham?"
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« Reply #3978 on: June 17, 2016, 12:02:48 PM »
Are those two 'heroes' the ones literally calling themselves "Gotham?"

Yes. Gotham and Gotham-Girl (I think?)

Dumb as fuck.

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« Reply #3979 on: June 17, 2016, 12:18:10 PM »
I'm more interested in the other "Batman" running around in Detective Comics.
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« Reply #3980 on: June 17, 2016, 12:21:45 PM »
I'm more interested in the other "Batman" running around in Detective Comics.

Same.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3981 on: June 17, 2016, 10:50:36 PM »
It's the tone of Batman, Gordon and Alfred..and Duke...in the dialogue throughout, not the silly "reveal" at the end. They're all just nonchalant about it, "for me it was Tuesday" while everyone else is freaking out over one 747 passenger plane about to smash into the center of Gotham. "Tell [the JLA] we're fine." Bruce and Alfred discussing the height of buildings, distances, wingspan of the plane, etc.

Bruce: I'm going to push it into the water.
Gordon: Are you listening?!? They're telling us -- Wait, did you say "push"? Where are you?
Bruce: I'm on the plane.
Gordon: Oh. Of course. You're on the plane.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3982 on: June 18, 2016, 07:19:42 AM »
Been going through some non-DC/Marvel, mainly associated with Ed Brubaker or Greg Rucka.

Fatale (Complete) - I liked the individual arcs coming together but I'm not sure I actually did like this for dropping the uninteresting aspects for the less so relationships.
Lazarus (Ongoing) - This is sorta fun, the world is maybe more interesting than the ongoing plot, and they stick additional text at the end of each issue fleshing that out.
The Fade Out (Complete) - There's a strange, but I think intentional incoherence or fog to this. It did make it kinda frustrating though.
Criminal (Complete) - Only read the first two so far, but I like how the arcs are connecting through being the same world even though they stand independently.
The Walking Dead (Ongoing) - Mainly, I came back to this after five years away or so. The TV show actually caught up and got past where I had stopped years back. I liked the time skip. Also the establishing of a world outside of Rick and whoever he's hanging out with this arc. But I also like that we've got a Negan emoticon now:
 :dice

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« Reply #3983 on: June 18, 2016, 07:50:05 AM »
What are some really good 4/4 A+++ non-Marvel/DC comics from like 5-10 years ago that are finished?  I've read Y: The Last Man, The Losers, Preacher, maybe a couple of others but that's off the top of my head.
Since all three of those are DC (Vertigo), I'll assume that's an exception. I didn't go back to see if you've read any.

Ones I liked, or thought were interesting enough to go through:
100 Bullets
DMZ
Ex Machina
Fables
Fallen Angel
Loveless
Lucifer
Queen and Country
Spaceman
Stray Bullets (technically started again after a decade hiatus)

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« Reply #3984 on: June 18, 2016, 04:01:12 PM »
Starman
The Sandman

Look at this DC filth.  :yuck
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« Reply #3985 on: June 18, 2016, 04:17:26 PM »
Finished reading through all of Locke & Key last night.  Hmmmm.  There's a fun harry potter-ish story in there about magic keys and family, demons and history, but the grim-dark I hate the world edgy mean-spirited over-violence of it all really brings it down for me.  I mean it's the kind of comic where any side-character is most likely going to die by the end just because the comic likes killing everyone.  Also I'm not a big fan of long stories where the good guys never make any progress and the bad guy(s) keep winning at every opportunity until the very last page of the story some 40 issues later.  That can work in a 2 hour movie, but when stretched out in a long story it's just not satisfying.  The best parts in Locke & Key are the one-shots from different time periods because the formula works a lot better over a single issue and mixing magic and demons with historic eras is fun.  It's not bad, but I didn't particularly like it overall.  Just not a fan of Joe Hill. 

What are some really good 4/4 A+++ non-Marvel/DC comics from like 5-10 years ago that are finished?  I've read Y: The Last Man, The Losers, Preacher, maybe a couple of others but that's off the top of my head.
Since all three of those are DC (Vertigo), I'll assume that's an exception. I didn't go back to see if you've read any.

Ones I liked, or thought were interesting enough to go through:
100 Bullets
DMZ
Ex Machina
Fables
Fallen Angel
Loveless
Lucifer
Queen and Country
Spaceman
Stray Bullets (technically started again after a decade hiatus)

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Starman
The Sandman
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Thanks, I have 100 bullets/stray bullets and I didn't realize Fables was finished, so I'll check those out.

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« Reply #3986 on: June 18, 2016, 06:50:05 PM »
Oh, I didn't know Fables had ended, either! Time to finish my collection and read up. I'm a (long-suffering) fan of Willingham. I met him at the 1983 SDCC when he launched Elementals. I even love his old, single-page D&D advertisements in comic books. I am super curious about whatever he's developing next.

Dude needs to lose about 50 lbs. though.

his for dropping the uninteresting aspects for the less so relationships.
Lazarus (Ongoing) - This is sorta fun, the world is maybe more interesting than the ongoing plot, and they stick additional text at the end of each issue fleshing that out.
Comixology had the trades on sale, and I loved v1 and 2, so I grabbed v3 and 4.

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« Reply #3987 on: June 18, 2016, 10:43:54 PM »
Wait, Fables ended?
Wikipodium says July 2015. Time to re-read Ironwood.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3988 on: June 18, 2016, 11:21:44 PM »
The spin-off The Wolf Among Us which is roughly based off the game is still going. I don't think Willingham has anything to do with it.

IIRC, there was a huge gap between Fables #149 and the final issue, #150 because #150 was published as its own TPB. EDIT: #149 was published in February 2015, #150 didn't come out until the end of July 2015.

Fairest also ended in February 2015. Jack of Fables had ended years earlier.

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« Reply #3989 on: June 18, 2016, 11:29:57 PM »
I was going to list Powers but then I remembered that it's just on unintentional hiatus that may turn into a new volume yet again.
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Vol. 2 #1–30
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Volume Four is currently on issue #6 which came out last month, while #5 had come out like back in November or something.

There was over a year gap between Volume Three #7 and #8. Then every single issue of Bureau I think came out on time before they launched a new volume again. :lol

The volumes don't actually work as cut-off points that well. I think some of the collected TPBs don't even have some issues because they cut off at the arc and don't bother with like the next two issues which came before another volume started and left everything on a cliffhanger. (There's like a hardcover COMPLETE COLLECTION that just collects them all in issue order.)

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« Reply #3990 on: June 18, 2016, 11:41:34 PM »
That reminds me that Fallen Angel isn't technically ended either. Just that #34 has been scheduled as "coming soon" for like five years or something and Peter David wrote two mini-series instead that just happened to wrap up some ongoing plot points.

It also technically doesn't start with (the first) issue #1 because David's been increasingly clear that a lot of it picks up where his run on Supergirl more or less ended and Linda Danvers more or less joins the comic later on.
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Can I say this is Linda Danvers? Of course I can't. However, it's pretty freaking obvious that it is.

But then I never thought Stray Bullets #41 would ever actually be published either. So Fallen Angel #34 might be out in 2021.

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« Reply #3991 on: June 19, 2016, 12:33:41 AM »
Is Fables worth it?  That's a lot of issues.  I read the first 5 issue arc a week or two ago which got me interested in the game.  I liked the first arc, just wanna hear it's worth the commitment to read the whole thing.

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« Reply #3992 on: June 19, 2016, 01:30:42 AM »
The Adversary mystery/plot that forms the first third or so of the series is one of my favorites. It does go a bit downhill after that for a period as if Willingham never intended to go beyond The Adversary. I liked the Literals arc.

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« Reply #3993 on: June 19, 2016, 11:26:27 PM »
The Adversary mystery/plot that forms the first third or so of the series is one of my favorites. It does go a bit downhill after that for a period as if Willingham never intended to go beyond The Adversary. I liked the Literals arc.
I thought I had read more of the series than I did, if that's the first ⅓ of it. I've got 10 or so trade paperbacks, but some of them are miniseries. Willingham's novel, Peter and Max, was very good, too. As far as The Adversary, I was disappointed that it didn't turn out to be
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« Reply #3994 on: June 23, 2016, 12:03:40 AM »
Detective Comics #935

I may not like his costume, but underneath it, you know what? It's fucking Tim Drake.

Not the imposter that's been running around in the two cancelled New 52 Teen Titans series for the past half-decade.

The real Tim Drake.

He's a little younger than I last saw him (in 2009-2011's Red Robin series), but it's fucking Tim Drake. And he's dating Stephanie Brown.

All is right in the world.

I had to laugh at Tim making a Danger Room clone out of Clayface material though, that's pretty brilliant (as is the new "Belfry" base in the middle of Gotham - it's hokey for sure, but it works for the tone of the comic.)

The ending was pretty hype. Can't wait for the next issue in two weeks. :hyper

Bimonthly issues are the best thing to come out of Rebirth. :lawd

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« Reply #3995 on: June 29, 2016, 08:58:36 PM »
DKIII: The Master Race #5 has the most legit hype as fuck last page. I'm not a big cape stan but even that got me. Also I read DK2 before DK3 and actually kinda enjoyed it, the coloring is the real weak link in the book, sometimes it works but I feel it mostly takes away from Miller's art. I expected something way worse but all I got was something silly,rough around the edges but okay in the end.
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« Reply #3996 on: June 29, 2016, 10:53:46 PM »
DKIII: The Master Race #5 has the most legit hype as fuck last page. I'm not a big cape stan but even that got me. Also I read DK2 before DK3 and actually kinda enjoyed it, the coloring is the real weak link in the book, sometimes it works but I feel it mostly takes away from Miller's art. I expected something way worse but all I got was something silly,rough around the edges but okay in the end.





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DKSA is a piece of shit I was hoping would be forever forgotten to time but Miller just had to make DKIII (and is gonna DKIV from what he says.) Ugh.

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« Reply #3997 on: June 30, 2016, 01:10:54 AM »
DKR is one of the most important, defining comics of the last 40 years.
DKSA is a master-level troll effort.

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« Reply #3998 on: June 30, 2016, 01:43:08 PM »
DKR is one of the most important, defining comics of the last 40 years.
DKSA is a master-level troll effort.

Except if you've read his other stuff you'd know it wasn't a troll.

Try Holy Terror sometime.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3999 on: July 01, 2016, 08:26:12 AM »
DKR is one of the most important, defining comics of the last 40 years.
DKSA is a master-level troll effort.

Except if you've read his other stuff you'd know it wasn't a troll.

Try Holy Terror sometime.

Oh, I'm aware. Miller was one of those guys who was right-wing but hiding it effectively until 9/11 broke his brain.

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« Reply #4000 on: July 01, 2016, 10:26:08 AM »
Heh, I thought you meant the artwork.
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« Reply #4001 on: July 01, 2016, 10:50:57 AM »
Heh, I thought you meant the artwork.

The artwork is too shitty to be on purpose.

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« Reply #4002 on: July 02, 2016, 01:53:19 AM »
Heh, I thought you meant the artwork.

The artwork is too shitty to be on purpose.

He started losing track of that around Ronin. There is stuff in there that is straight-up "what were you thinking?" territory. He toned it down again for DKSA, and Elektra Returns, and even 300. But he's at his best when aping a manga format with Yoshitoshi-style brushwork inks.

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« Reply #4003 on: July 05, 2016, 11:07:45 AM »
Read the first two volumes of Hickman's The Manhattan Projects great wacky stuff.  Like Futurama meets Dr. Strangelove.  Need to pick up the other 3 volumes.
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« Reply #4004 on: July 06, 2016, 10:28:01 AM »
So now, following the female Thor and female Wolverine, we have...female Iron Man.  I like her design, but I gotta say, I'm starting to get tired of this.  Can they not just make these characters into new superheroes instead of replacing existing ones with different genders/races/whatever?

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There’s a new Iron Man. Well, Iron Man for now. She’s still working on the name. The events at the end of the comic book event series Civil War II will result in Tony Stark stepping out of the Iron Man suit and a new character, Riri Williams, taking over, Marvel tells TIME. (Note: Tony’s departure doesn’t mean you know the end to Civil War II yet.)

Riri is a science genius who enrolls in MIT at the age of 15. She comes to the attention of Tony when she builds her own Iron Man suit in her dorm.
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« Reply #4005 on: July 06, 2016, 11:00:30 AM »
Riri Williams was able to build this in a dorm...with a box of ramen!
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« Reply #4006 on: July 06, 2016, 12:01:44 PM »
It feels very forced and gimmicky. These characters also usually don't stand on their own, becoming frogetten when the original comes back.

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« Reply #4007 on: July 06, 2016, 03:01:37 PM »
Yup, Sam Wilson Cap has completely disappeared off the Earth. So has Kamala Khan Ms. Marvel as well.
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« Reply #4008 on: July 06, 2016, 03:23:42 PM »
Yup, Sam Wilson Cap has completely disappeared off the Earth. So has Kamala Khan Ms. Marvel as well.

What do you mean?  Both have their own solo books and are in Avengers books too.  Or was that sarcasm...my meter is broken.  :P
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« Reply #4009 on: July 06, 2016, 04:22:28 PM »
Yup, Sam Wilson Cap has completely disappeared off the Earth. So has Kamala Khan Ms. Marvel as well.
They are still being pushed.

Also Falcon was a known character, but I'd say yeah the focus is back on Rogers.

Let's wait a bit to see if Ms Marvel has any longevity.

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« Reply #4010 on: July 06, 2016, 07:45:03 PM »
MODAK:
https://twitter.com/newbiedm/status/748603089007964160


So now, following the female Thor and female Wolverine, we have...female Iron Man.  I like her design, but I gotta say, I'm starting to get tired of this.  Can they not just make these characters into new superheroes instead of replacing existing ones with different genders/races/whatever?

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There’s a new Iron Man. Well, Iron Man for now. She’s still working on the name. The events at the end of the comic book event series Civil War II will result in Tony Stark stepping out of the Iron Man suit and a new character, Riri Williams, taking over, Marvel tells TIME. (Note: Tony’s departure doesn’t mean you know the end to Civil War II yet.)

Riri is a science genius who enrolls in MIT at the age of 15. She comes to the attention of Tony when she builds her own Iron Man suit in her dorm.
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Elementally, she should be called "Fe-MALE"

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4011 on: July 06, 2016, 08:31:21 PM »
I'm not a comic buff or anything, but I've yet to read one of these gender swap things that was remotely interesting or that avoided being exceedingly hamfisted in its execution / message.

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« Reply #4012 on: July 07, 2016, 10:10:17 AM »
I checked my digital comic backlog last night and found that I'd read the latest Iron Man series up through issue six.  Caught up and read 7-11.  Issue seven, from several months back...introduced Riri Williams and every issue after has a little section focusing on her exploits.  So this is not a brand new thing and the character was introduced already.  Weird that all of a sudden people have taken notice just now, with that Time article.

Looking at the various gender-swapped/new versions of existing Marvel characters:

-Wolverine: I like X-23, but this current book isn't really that great.  One thing I was hoping for was having Laura have to deal with various characters from Logan's rogues' gallery, but none of that has happened.  Instead this comic introduced MORE female Wolverine clones and now one of them is her little sidekick.  I dunno...I know there's Old Man Logan for the grittier, more violent Wolverine, but this book is almost too...light-hearted?  In a way.

-Ms. Marvel: Dropped the first series after the first issue...seemed like it was directed at a younger audience.  I'm not big on Inhumans, although this character really has nothing to do with them.  She caught on and I like her in the Avengers books, so I'm going to try her new series.

-Spider-Wimmenz: Spider-Gwen is a fun book.  It's all self-contained and takes place in an alternate universe, so they can do whatever they want.  She's had some crossovers with Silk and Spider-Woman, who are her buddies now.  Spider-Woman has been a fun read, too, although she's not a new character so that doesn't count here.  Haven't read too much Silk apart from some crossover stories.  There are too many Spider characters right now and she feels kind of lost in the shuffle.

-Nova: Read all of the first series but haven't caught up yet on the new one.  The character is OK, but they've spent entirely too much time on him looking for his father/his father returning and being an imposter-Nova-thing/looking for his father again.  It has spilled over into the Avengers now.

-Thor: Dropped this.  Was never that big into Thor to begin with and I lost interest in this book pretty quickly after they revealed her identity. 

-Spider-Man: Miles Morales is a fun character and I'm glad they brought him into the main MU.  I think he needs his own super-hero name though.

-The Totally Awesome Hulk: So the story here is that Amadeus Cho, in an effort to save The Hulk from blowing up due to absorbing too much radiation, found a way to take the Hulk literally out of Bruce Banner and put him into himself.  Cho has more control over the Hulk and retains his personality, but has discovered that he has blackouts where he can't remember anything and the Hulk is off doing whatever.  There was also a recent storyline that focused on Banner and how he's doing great without the Hulk inside him.  I'm sure that this will all lead to Banner becoming the Hulk again at some point.  I don't really care for Cho as the Hulk, but it's a decent book I guess.

-Sam Wilson Captain America: Sorry, Sam, but I really don't care all that much.  Not into the character and not into the new Falcon that they introduced, either.  My favorite version of this character is the movie version and I wish they'd model him more like that portrayal instead.  Steve Rogers is already back as Cap and all the attention is on him with the whole Hydra-Red Skull brainwashing thing anyway.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4013 on: July 07, 2016, 12:00:38 PM »
Batman (2016) #2

Another good issue with some really sharp writing by King. He was king of the quip with Grayson and he hasn't lost his edge here, the Bruce-Alfred and Bruce-Gordon dynamics are as good as ever. I like that Gotham and Gotham-Girl are both portrayed as being dumb as fuck since that's the impression I got in their debut last issue.

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Superman (2016) #2

Holy cow this is my favorite comic in forever (well, maybe since Grayson.) I know Tomasi and Gleason are laying the sap on thick in order to create drama later, but goddamnit, I don't care. This is Superman to me. This is DC to me. This is what I want in a comic book.

I wasn't a big fan of Gleason's art on Batman & Robin outside of some select panels, but I absolutely love what he's doing here.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4014 on: July 08, 2016, 08:39:35 AM »
Look at him, all smiles after frying his cat with his heat vision. 
:what
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« Reply #4015 on: July 08, 2016, 10:31:37 AM »
Look at him, all smiles after frying his cat with his heat vision. 
:what

IT WAS AN ACCIDENT :maf

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« Reply #4016 on: July 13, 2016, 09:00:03 AM »
Marvel is spoiling their own shit.  In Civil War #3, there's a "major" character death:

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The Inhuman, who gets visions of the future, sees the Hulk going on a rampage, so Hawkeye takes a special arrow that Bruce Banner created for him and shoots Banner in the head with it.

...Which makes no sense, since Banner is no longer the Hulk-- That's now Amadeus Cho.
[close]

:confused

But maybe this is what really gets the event going.
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« Reply #4017 on: July 13, 2016, 11:32:04 AM »
I submitted 10 comics to CGC last weekend at the Montreal Comiccon

:what

Can't wait for the inevitable letdown in 3 months when I get them back.

Nothing ballah, It's mostly recent cover variants stuff, a Punisher #1 from 1987, one irst print issue of The Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe  and a bunch of signed Neal Adams comics. It was less expensive than I thought It was going to be, to be honest.
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« Reply #4018 on: July 13, 2016, 06:36:45 PM »
Finished Hickman's The Manhattan Projects thanks to the image sale where I picked up the rest of that, a bunch of Nailbiter volumes since vol.1 was entertaining for the horror fan in my, and Low vol.2, Deadly Class vol.3 for Rick Remender's stuff.

The Manhattan Projects was a real good ride.  The story or where it was going was never particularly important, the story was simply the stage for a bunch of absurd alternate history meets sci-fi shenangins skits featuring nazis, communists, talking dogs, presidents, aliens, robots, death squad Japanese red torii portals, einstein w/chainsaw, etc...Was constantly smart, funny and well-written.  The style and setting reminded me a lot of God Hates Astronauts, except a little less slapstick and more smart satire.  GHA is like the Tropical Thunder to TMP's Dr. Strangelove.  Both are weird and funny though, would've grabbed GHA vol.2 & 3 but they weren't on sale in this Image sale.  Anyhow, in the end the story kind of just ends at a certain part.  Not sure if the plan was to keep it going or if the ratings weren't that good and it was time to move on.  But that's ok because the events and characters were entertaining enough to have made the journey well worth it.  If you like weird & smart political satire with some sci-fi thrown in, check out The Manhattan Projects.

I need to get back to Marvel comics.  I've been on a Marvel break since I'm loving a lot of Image published stuff right now.  Probably get back to Marvel soon, need to make some progress since I'm still right before Civil War 1 (2006) in my Marvel Timeline read through.  I'm currently on the Black Panther series around that time (after Priest's run) and it's pretty fun.  Luke Cage joins up with Black Panther to be his bodyguard and there's this 2 issue arc where they go to New Orleans and team up with Blade and Dr. Voodoo and kickass as a Black Superhero Team which was awesome.  The interactions between Blade and BP were really really great.  Lot of funny stuff in there and I'd recommend at least that 2 issue comic to everyone.
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« Reply #4019 on: July 14, 2016, 10:34:32 AM »
Marvel is spoiling their own shit.  In Civil War #3, there's a "major" character death:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The Inhuman, who gets visions of the future, sees the Hulk going on a rampage, so Hawkeye takes a special arrow that Bruce Banner created for him and shoots Banner in the head with it.

...Which makes no sense, since Banner is no longer the Hulk-- That's now Amadeus Cho.
[close]

:confused

But maybe this is what really gets the event going.

Read this and most of the story took place in a court room, with various characters testifying about the events described above. 
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Was glad to see that Bendis does in fact recognize that Amadeus Cho is the Hulk-- he's not anywhere in this comic, but the story here is that Banner was experimenting on himself with gamma crap and Hawkeye claimed his eyes flashed green just before he shot him, indicating he was going to 'Hulk out.'  Hawkeye also said that Banner told him outright to kill him if he was going to turn into the Hulk again, which makes no sense to me if Banner himself was essentially trying to become the Hulk again.
[close]

And still, despite this...it still feels like nothing is happening apart from character deaths/comas.  :lol  We're three issues in and there has yet to be a 'war.'

A bunch of covers have also leaked for upcoming books in the fall.  Among them is a new Dr. Strange book, which follows the All-New X-Men in that multiple sorcerers (ancient ones?) from the past time travel to the present to help Strange, and another Iron Man book...with Dr. Doom in the armor.  LOL if they kill Tony Stark in Civil War.  There's also an upcoming book (no cover shown) called "The Unworthy Thor," which I assume will follow Thor Odinson.
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