Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads

[Eel O'Brian]

You can look at the date breh.

These are reviews with titles like ”Blu Ray too expensive! "

Pretty sure they're talking about the box set

[Kara]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/marvel-reimagines-green-goblin-as-lefthanded,36507/

There's a Sinister Six joke to be made, but I can't quite piece it together.

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Look up the etymology of sinister.

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[Mandark]

A pun?  How gauche.

[Kara]

A pun?  How gauche.

[chronovore]

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[Eel O'Brian]

http://www.nerdist.com/2014/07/wolverine-dies-and-the-hulk-goes-omega-at-the-marvel-panel/

Soule says that near the end of the miniseries, it was difficult to write the final sequence, with editor Nick Lowe adding that, after years and years of reading dozens of comic scripts, this was one of the rare ones that brought a tear to his eye.

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.nerdist.com/2014/07/wolverine-dies-and-the-hulk-goes-omega-at-the-marvel-panel/

Soule says that near the end of the miniseries, it was difficult to write the final sequence, with editor Nick Lowe adding that, after years and years of reading dozens of comic scripts, this was one of the rare ones that brought a tear to his eye.

Douche chills. 

[chronovore]

http://www.itv.com/news/2014-07-29/richard-norris-amazing-transformation-after-facial-transplant-surgery/

I knew that Preacher's arseface was based on an actual person, but I didn't know the guy had been a shut-in, and has now had a face transplant.

[bork]

http://www.nerdist.com/2014/07/wolverine-dies-and-the-hulk-goes-omega-at-the-marvel-panel/

Soule says that near the end of the miniseries, it was difficult to write the final sequence, with editor Nick Lowe adding that, after years and years of reading dozens of comic scripts, this was one of the rare ones that brought a tear to his eye.

LOL.  How long does he stay dead (again)?  Six months, tops?

Here's an idea- After Wolverine dies, suddenly there's four new Wolverines!   But then it turns out that they're just X-23, Sabretooth, Mystique, and Daken!  You could even give them new code names like "The clone," "The Eradicator," and "Steel!"  THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE HIRE ME MARVEL!   

Was going to roll my eyes at yet-another new Hulk, but it's just another persona so whatever.

[Bebpo]

I got that Marvel Netflix for 99 cents and so the first thing I jumped into, having not read anything Marvel in 20 years, was the "biggest crossover arc of the last decade", the Civil War storyline.  I figured I'd read the biggest and best of the post-2000 Marvel first to get something epic and satisfying.  I finished reading all the "road to the Civil War" comics from Spiderman, Fantastic Four, Avengers Special and am now reading the first few Civil War issues and I'm super bored and already feeling burnt out on "superhero" comics.

This whole thing just seems like an excuse to have all your favorite Marvel(tm) characters duke it out fighting game style.  The plot is really dull (Superhero Registration Act!) and there's not much character development so far.  I dunno, not feeling this at all.  Thinking about bailing and trying another series before giving up on modern Marvel.

I like comics like Y: The Last Man and Watchmen and stuff that is about story & characters.  I used to like X-men and superhero stuff as a kid, but now it just feels like it's written for 13 year old boys and is dumb, simple and ACTION.  Maybe I'm just reading the wrong series.  Will probably cancel Marvel Unlimited before the month ends, any recommendations that will change my opinion of post-2000 era Marvel comics?

[Yeti]

Read Ultimate Spider-Man, that is probably more your speed. Deals a lot with Peter Parker's home and school life.

[Rahxephon91]

Read New X-men by Grant Morrison. Then Astonishing X-men by Joss Wheadon

X-Force/X-Statix by Peter Milligan.

NextWave by Warren Ellies

Uncanny X-Force by Rick Remmender

http://marvel.com/comics/series/9976/uncanny_x-force_2010_-_2012?byZone=marvel_site_zone&offset=0&byType=comic_series&dateStart=&dateEnd=&type=&orderBy=release_date+desc&byId=9976&limit=10&count=10&isDigital=1

http://marvel.com/comics/series/2281/new_x-men_2001_-_2004?byZone=marvel_site_zone&offset=18&byType=comic_series&dateStart=&dateEnd=&type=&orderBy=release_date+desc&byId=2281&limit=48&count=10&isDigital=1
Starts at 114.

http://marvel.com/comics/series/744/astonishing_x-men_2004_-_present?byZone=marvel_site_zone&offset=10&byType=comic_series&dateStart=&dateEnd=&type=&orderBy=release_date+desc&byId=744&limit=96&count=10&isDigital=1
Start at 1 till Giant Size.

[Eric P]

I got that Marvel Netflix for 99 cents and so the first thing I jumped into, having not read anything Marvel in 20 years, was the "biggest crossover arc of the last decade", the Civil War storyline.  I figured I'd read the biggest and best of the post-2000 Marvel first to get something epic and satisfying.  I finished reading all the "road to the Civil War" comics from Spiderman, Fantastic Four, Avengers Special and am now reading the first few Civil War issues and I'm super bored and already feeling burnt out on "superhero" comics.

This whole thing just seems like an excuse to have all your favorite Marvel(tm) characters duke it out fighting game style.  The plot is really dull (Superhero Registration Act!) and there's not much character development so far.  I dunno, not feeling this at all.  Thinking about bailing and trying another series before giving up on modern Marvel.

I like comics like Y: The Last Man and Watchmen and stuff that is about story & characters.  I used to like X-men and superhero stuff as a kid, but now it just feels like it's written for 13 year old boys and is dumb, simple and ACTION.  Maybe I'm just reading the wrong series.  Will probably cancel Marvel Unlimited before the month ends, any recommendations that will change my opinion of post-2000 era Marvel comics?

civil war is dumb as hell.  most event comics are the equiv of summer blockbusters; big, loud, and stupid.

check out Alias, Hawkeye (the recent series by Fraction), daredevil (anything by Bendis and up, don't start at issue 1 because those are by kevin smith and suck), Fraction and Alred's FF, Superior Foes of Spider-Man, Avengers Academy which leads to Avengers Arena (these are teen books, so you may hate them instantly), Rucka's Captain America and Wolverine and the X-Men (also a teen comic for the most part)

[Eric P]

NEXTWAVE AGENTS OF HATE should be the next thing you read.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

read Nextwave, it's short and you'll love it

Civil War sucks, Avengers vs. X-Men sucks, Schism sucks, etc. NO WAY is the "best" in comics the huge dumb crossovers. Quite the absolute opposite.

Eric P's list is on-point. Read Morrison's New X-Men (114-154, read the New X-Men 2008 Annual after 119), then Whedon's Astonishing (1-26, then finish with Giant-Sized Astonishing X-Men)

But read Nextwave first as a palate cleanser

[Howard Alan Treesong]

if you finish New X-Men and Astonishing X-Men and want more X-Men, the natural continuation in character and tone is Aaron's Wolverine & The X-Men, which is goofy and fun as hell (school hijinx)

Uncanny X-Force is done at this point - it's dark, but in a fun (?) way, not a mature/Christopher Nolan way. It's about the X-Men's Dirty Tricks squad and has a great cast (Wolverine, Fantomex (read the Morrison run first!), Psylocke, Deadpool, Archangel). The middle section is pretty Age of Apocalypse heavy, though, so you might want to read the Wikipedia entry for that depending on how well you remember it.

I STRONGLY recommend Thor: God of Thunder 1-11 by Aaron - as fuck, self-contained and continuity light. Thor in several different time periods.

Young Avengers is all up but the last issue, which should go up next week. Fun pop-art comics starring teenage superheroes.

The Immortal Iron-Fist 1-14 is GREAT, basically a Mortal Kombat / Shaw Bros. movie set in Shangri La. READ THIS.

Hawkeye 1-12 are available and (as you might have heard?) absolutely superb, though that series is still ongoing

DON'T READ CROSSOVERS OMG

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Here's how comic crossovers work:

1) they want to shake up the line to keep people interested so editors come up with some huge things they want to have happen to the characters (death, body swaps, team splits, whatever)
1b) it doesn't matter if it makes narrative sense, the important thing is to fuck everything up
2) there is a standalone series of 7 issues that makes ABSOLUTELY no sense and is usually running 4-6 weeks behind schedule
3) there are a lot of tie-in books that make a bit more sense but are boring
3b) previously enjoyable books are forced to drop everything to participate in the crossover, ruining their story and momentum
4) the crossover ends, the editorial fiat has been accomplished, and NOTHING WILL EVER BE THE SAME
5) there's another crossover in 4 months

[Bebpo]

Thanks for the recommendations.  Yeah, gonna bail on Civil War and read some of that stuff instead.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I JUST finished a re-read of New X-Men last night and it's still

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Young Avengers:



Thor: God of Thunder ( King Thor at the end of time )



Nextwave:



Immortal Iron-Fist:

[Rahxephon91]

I'm going to disagree with Wolverine and the X-men being the natural thing to read after Astonishing and New. It's nothing like those two runs and is pretty horrible. It also takes a character introduced in those runs and shits on them. Completely missingthe point.

Mike Carey's run on X-men starts pretty fun with a reckless team read by Rogue. I don't actually remember when it starts. It does lead into Messiah Complex which is actually a pretty fun X-men event. Still, it is typical Superhero stuff.

New X-men, Hawkeye, Brubacker Marvel stuff(though not X-men) and Astonishing are a bit more then typical superhero stuff.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I'm going to disagree with Wolverine and the X-men being the natural thing to read after Astonishing and New. It's nothing like those two runs and is pretty horrible. It also takes a character introduced and those runs and shits on them. Completely running the point.

1) I agree that it's a different tone, I STRONGLY disagree it's horrible. if New X-Men is cosmic superthreats and Astonishing is pretty much the Avengers movie only with X-Men, Wolverine & the X-Men is a ground-level story of the next generation of mutants and school hijinx (I love school hijinx)
2) Aaron is on record that he loves the Morrison run and he sees his work as the continuation of those stories, so comparing them is hardly off base
3) it's free, so Bebpo can decide for himself!

[Eric P]

Wolverine and the X-Men is great fun.

[Joe Molotov]

Here's how comic crossovers work:

1) they want to shake up the line to keep people interested so editors come up with some huge things they want to have happen to the characters (death, body swaps, team splits, whatever)
1b) it doesn't matter if it makes narrative sense, the important thing is to fuck everything up
2) there is a standalone series of 7 issues that makes ABSOLUTELY no sense and is usually running 4-6 weeks behind schedule
3) there are a lot of tie-in books that make a bit more sense but are boring
3b) previously enjoyable books are forced to drop everything to participate in the crossover, ruining their story and momentum
4) the crossover ends, the editorial fiat has been accomplished, and NOTHING WILL EVER BE THE SAME
5) there's another crossover in 4 months

Final Crisis, doe.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Final Crisis, doe.

[bork]

Wolverine and the X-Men is great fun.

It is for the first half or so of the series, then the quality takes a nosedive, except for a five part Hellfire storyline towards the end, when some of the characters switch sides. 

That series is already over (ended with #42, IIRC) and they've now started over again.  Only read the first issue so not sure how it stacks up.

[Bebpo]

Nextwave is pretty fun so far.  Like the art style and the writing.  Thanks for the suggestion.

[Rahxephon91]

Yes, maybe "horrible" is a bit strong, but I just couldn't get into Wolvie and the X-men. Yes it's a bit more silly and I can see how that would mean fun for some people. I just didn't find it fun. The more silly school adventures aren't my thing. I haven't liked Quentin Quire in the book who to me comes off as an annoying prankster. Maybe thats the point, but I liked the his character in New X-men for Riot at Xaviers. This lovable prankster kind of betrays the very kind of tragic "smart teenager who goes crazily rebellious because in the end he's a dumb teenager" character arc in "Riot".

The Husk and Toad stuff wasn't funny to me. I liked Oya in whatever that Hope centric comic was named, but she comes off as a really dumb airhead in the comic. Eh I don't know I just don't like this take on the X-men. I don't need everything to be super serious and dark and gritty of course, but surprisingly I don't find a mutant shark girl funny. So the book just dosen't jive with me.

But if you want really good modern X-men. You must read New X-men. It holds up very well and feels even more modern then some of the stuff being written today.

[Bebpo]

Halfway through Nextwave and it's good, but a bit hit or miss in the grand scheme of everything.  The art and writing is good, and sometimes its quite funny, especially when it pokes fun at the Marvel universe, but so far there's no real story and everything is silly to the point that it's all kind of a joke and fluff.  Enjoying it enough to keep reading, but it's no The Losers or anything.

Speaking of which I read Punisher Silent Night by Andy Diggle and that was pretty good. 


I think I'm looking for more single story arc, semi-serious titles with quality writing and characters.  Will check out some of the shorter ones recommended here after I finish Nextwave like The Thor Series, Hawkeye, Daredevil.


Oh and btw, is EVERYTHING under the Marvel category a superhero comic?  Do they not publisher stories about normal people that just happen to fall under the comic medium?  I guess Punisher is kind of close since he doesn't have super powers, but he's still a superhero.  Wondering if I can get some non-superhero mileage out of this Marvel Unlimited app.

[Tasty]

Here's how comic crossovers work:

1) they want to shake up the line to keep people interested so editors come up with some huge things they want to have happen to the characters (death, body swaps, team splits, whatever)
1b) it doesn't matter if it makes narrative sense, the important thing is to fuck everything up
2) there is a standalone series of 7 issues that makes ABSOLUTELY no sense and is usually running 4-6 weeks behind schedule
3) there are a lot of tie-in books that make a bit more sense but are boring
3b) previously enjoyable books are forced to drop everything to participate in the crossover, ruining their story and momentum
4) the crossover ends, the editorial fiat has been accomplished, and NOTHING WILL EVER BE THE SAME
5) there's another crossover in 4 months

Final Crisis, doe.

Infinite Crisis > Final Crisis

Actually felt like a contained story.

[Eric P]

Halfway through Nextwave and it's good, but a bit hit or miss in the grand scheme of everything.  The art and writing is good, and sometimes its quite funny, especially when it pokes fun at the Marvel universe, but so far there's no real story and everything is silly to the point that it's all kind of a joke and fluff.  Enjoying it enough to keep reading, but it's no The Losers or anything.

Speaking of which I read Punisher Silent Night by Andy Diggle and that was pretty good. 


I think I'm looking for more single story arc, semi-serious titles with quality writing and characters.  Will check out some of the shorter ones recommended here after I finish Nextwave like The Thor Series, Hawkeye, Daredevil.


Oh and btw, is EVERYTHING under the Marvel category a superhero comic?  Do they not publisher stories about normal people that just happen to fall under the comic medium?  I guess Punisher is kind of close since he doesn't have super powers, but he's still a superhero.  Wondering if I can get some non-superhero mileage out of this Marvel Unlimited app.

there might be some millie the model in there, but for the most part, Marvel is superheroes.

[bork]

Bebpo, have you ever read any of Adam Warren's stuff?  You might like Empowered.  (Published by Dark Horse Comics)

[Rahxephon91]

You could read Sentinel. It's about a normal kid who finds a giant robot basically. I don't remember it being very super heroish.

I'm surprised no one recommended Runaways either.

[WanderingWind]

Are there any good Guardians of the Galaxy comics? I'd be interested in reading some after the awesomeness of that movie.

Since Exitar had a brief cameo in GotG, I'm wondering if the Celestials will show up in Avengers 4.

Not really, no. They're mostly shitty tryhard books. One run was semi-fun, but it was nothing like the movie. The movie being so good is probably because they took the broadstrokes of the comics and then just made everything actually entertaining.

[bork]

Are there any good Guardians of the Galaxy comics? I'd be interested in reading some after the awesomeness of that movie.

Since Exitar had a brief cameo in GotG, I'm wondering if the Celestials will show up in Avengers 4.

Not really, no. They're mostly shitty tryhard books. One run was semi-fun, but it was nothing like the movie. The movie being so good is probably because they took the broadstrokes of the comics and then just made everything actually entertaining.

I didn't read the previous series, but I've been enjoying the current run.  It's nothing like the old books were.

[Bebpo]

So thinking about it, the Marvel Unlimited thing is a good deal if you haven't read many comics in a decade or two.  But it's probably something only good for a year, because, since you can blow through comics fairly quick, I'd wager in a year you could read every good series Marvel's published in the last 40 years.  So I definitely think I'll stick with it for a while, but I can see myself cancelling when I run out of series that people recommend.


I read Diggle's Hawkeye: Dark Reign 5-issue story about Bullseye that takes place during some story arc when he pretends to be Hawkeye and the arc is full of horrible murdering.  It was...ok, but felt a little out of context and the major subplots didn't resolve since it was a small story within a larger story taking place in the Marvel Universe at the time.


Taking the last few issues of Nextwave along with the first few Thor God of Thunder, Young Avengers and Immortal Iron Fist with me on my flight to Charleston tomorrow.  Probably gonna spend a chunk of the trip relaxing by the pool reading comics, so will get some good use out of this app.  Looking forward to it!

And yeah Guardians of the Galaxy was a pretty good movie and now I want to read comics about GotG and learn more about Nova Force. 

[Bebpo]

Also, this really makes me wish DC had a similar netflix sub type thing, because there's probably a lot of good DC stuff I'd like to read as I've enjoyed a few of the Batman graphic novels I've read over the years.

[Eric P]

i would be very interested in getting a DC Unlimited type thing if only for the bronze age stuff I missed out on because I was strictly a Marvel kid

[Shaka Khan]

Damn. I can't believe I missed the boat on the $0.99 Unlimited coupon. That could have given me a good idea of how much the service matured. I have a few runs I'd like to check out, add to that the recommendations you guys gave Bebpo.

Has anyone used the Android phone app? That'll be my main way of reading if I ever sign up.

[chronovore]

[Reb]

I hate everything about that picture.

[Rahxephon91]

Forgetting the part where Marvel cancels or reverts all those progressive changes/titles.

Yeah that gay wedding issue was terrible as well.




Still like Marvel and am happy that they've realized appearing progressive gets you on Time magazine.

[Tasty]

OK. And which one has Quesada and which one has Scott Snyder?

[Joe Molotov]

Scarlett Johansson in skin-tight leather as a secondary character in a movie staring a white dude; it's so progressive, brehs.

[Shaka Khan]

This is why #weneedfeminism

[bork]

Scarlett Johansson in skin-tight leather as a secondary character in a movie staring a white dude; it's so progressive, brehs.

 

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I'm surprised no one recommended Runaways either.

Runaways S1 (1-12) is VERY good (a bunch of kids living in LA find out their parents are supervillains) and I give it a Strong Recommendation

characters are awesome, like Molly Hayes, who is like 9 and has Hulk-level strength



or Gertrude, who doesn't have any superpowers but DOES have a pet velociraptor, and that's worth something, right?



stop there, though

just

stop there

[cool breeze]

So thinking about it, the Marvel Unlimited thing is a good deal if you haven't read many comics in a decade or two.  But it's probably something only good for a year, because, since you can blow through comics fairly quick, I'd wager in a year you could read every good series Marvel's published in the last 40 years.  So I definitely think I'll stick with it for a while, but I can see myself cancelling when I run out of series that people recommend.

yeah, it's nice to read stuff I normally wouldn't/didn't and catch up on some stuff.  when it comes to buying stuff on comixology or w/e there's only a handful of stuff I follow.  so jumping into all the cosmic stuff is fresh and entertaining.  downside to the service is that the marvel reader apps aren't great.

and reading Avengers vs X-Men reminded me why I stopped bothering with those types of crossovers.

[Joe Molotov]

Here's how comic crossovers work:

1) they want to shake up the line to keep people interested so editors come up with some huge things they want to have happen to the characters (death, body swaps, team splits, whatever)
1b) it doesn't matter if it makes narrative sense, the important thing is to fuck everything up
2) there is a standalone series of 7 issues that makes ABSOLUTELY no sense and is usually running 4-6 weeks behind schedule
3) there are a lot of tie-in books that make a bit more sense but are boring
3b) previously enjoyable books are forced to drop everything to participate in the crossover, ruining their story and momentum
4) the crossover ends, the editorial fiat has been accomplished, and NOTHING WILL EVER BE THE SAME
5) there's another crossover in 4 months

Final Crisis, doe.

Infinite Crisis > Final Crisis

Actually felt like a contained story.

Maybe it's time for a read thru.

[Bebpo]

So I finished some comics!

Nextwave:  Fun, good art, some really witty writing and kind of fun how it pokes jokes at the Marvel Universe.  Doesn't have much of a story and by the time it finishes it feels like the intro arc of what could've been a great series but...there's no more!  B+ 

Favorite part was:

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The section where everyone was calling the robot dude a shit (#!$^) and he's like 'Man, I'm so badass I even hung out with the Celestials for a while! 

And then it flashes back to him surrounded by Celestials and they're like 'sorry dude, you need to go' and he's like "why something something' and they're like 'well...you're kind of a shit'    That was amazing.

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Thor: God of Thunder 1-11 arc:  This started AMAZING and the art was incredible throughout.  Really cool writing with the three time periods and versions of Thor and the story about Gorr the God Butcher started incredibly interesting.  The writing falls from Games of Thrones to Marvel Summer Movies about halfway but it's still very entertaining popcorn action and the art is just damn good.  A-

I felt it went down a notch around halfway (spoilers): 

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When they did Gorr's backstory and instead of being interesting it was just a generic OH MY LIFE WAS UNFORTUNATE AND SUCKED AND THE GODS DIDN'T HELP SO I FOUND AN ULTIMATE WEAPON AND NOW I'M GONNA KILL THEM ALL.  Then the Thor's team up and it's just summer blockbuster "let's kick ass with Thor power to save the day!"; was way more interesting in the opening arc when it was about a mysterious serial killer that's been going around eliminating gods for hundreds of years and no one's really noticed and the repercussions on their planets and universes.  That was a real interesting setup.

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Old Man Logan:  My friend who is not into high brow comics recommended me this Mark Miller comic as "really great!"  lol  It was soooooooooooooooooooooooooo trashy, jeez.  Was it entertaining on a super dumb popcorn level?  Sure.  But it was just embarrassingly trashy.  Not a fan of Mark Miller.  C-  Also, apparently in like a lot of comics in the last 20 years Hulk has become more of an antagonist?  (Planet Hulk/WW Hulk/Old Man Logan).  I swear back when I was reading comics and watching the Hulk tv show and playing the Hulk text adventure he was a hero guy.  Is there some "breaking point" where Hulk goes bad in the Marvel universe?

Runaways S1 1-18:  Started off ok, a little too kiddy, towards the middle the group dynamic kept it enjoyable and in the last few issues the plot kicked in and it paid off satisfyingly.  1-18 Was a surprisingly good complete origin story.  I hear it goes downhill after it changes writers in S2+ so I'll pass on reading anymore, but I enjoyed it.  As the 2nd thing I've read written by Brian K. Vaughn though (other one being Y: The Last Man which was superb), it wasn't really the same level of awesome, but it had some good parts.  The art was kind of just ok too.  B+

Punisher Warzone:  Enjoyable little popcorn story.  I enjoy reading Punisher arcs because it's basically Batman but he kills everyone.  Punisher looked really weird in this design, but I dug it.  B

Young Avengers (2013):  Didn't enjoy this too much starting out.  The art was stylish and modern pop, which was cool.  But I had no clue who these characters were and why they looked sorta like other character (Hulking), (little Loki) (fake Captain America at one point), also the entire story run being about EVIL DIMENSIONAL MOM PARASITE was just super lame.  However, it ended up being a good story and the characters really grew on me.  Loki is SUCH A GOOD CHARACTER in this one.  He steals the entire show and I really, really like his character here.  Ended nice and bittersweet too.  As I mention below I'm going to read the original run of Young Avengers so I can see their origin story which will add a lot to this one.  PS, for some reason Marvel Unlimited does not carry a digital version of the final issue (it's not a time exclusive thing) which was rather annoying, but I was still able to read it elsewhere and finish the thing.  A-


Now I'm currently about halfway through The Immortal Iron First (2006-2009) and enjoying it for the great art and Mortal Kombat story like Treesong said.  After I finish that I'm gonna finally read something LONG and read the Morrison arc of New X-men, Whedon's Astonishing X-men, and Uncanny X-Force.  I'm probably also going to read the first run of Young Avengers because as I mentioned jumping into the 2013 run was a little confusing and I'd like to see the origin of these characters even if it's not that great of a manga.

Also planning on reading Bendis' Daredevil (I read his first one and so.much.text, but I liked the abstract art style and it seemed interesting), the recent 2012 Hawkeye, Superior Foes of Spiderman, Avengers Academy.

Eventually after I get through all that stuff, what are some good arcs to read of characters I'm interested in:  Iron Man, Spiderman, Fantastic Four (never read any FF, would like a cool Dr. Doom arc), Ghost Rider (never read GR either and would like to read a good art because I like the character design and Mephisto in MvC2 looked awesome), and maybe Captain America.  I want to check out Inhumans because I keep seeing Black Bolt show up in other comics and I heard the "War of Kings" arc is a good arc to get an idea of them.  Also I have no idea who the Skrull and Kree aliens are but they keep showing up in stuff which makes me want to read some arc about them so I can get more out of them in the Marvel Universe.

[bluemax]

[Himu]

what's with her butt cheeks

it's like she's letting one rip riiiiiight before she goes fight the bad guys so they don't spread any nasty rumors

[Himu]

No, I'm convinced she's farting. I hear the,"pooootmn" already.

[Himu]

The artist probably traced over porn, some people do that.

[bluemax]

The artist probably traced over porn, some people do that.

Actually the artist is a renowned erotic pictures drawer guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_Manara

His wiki page has a NSFW image of a half naked woman in the exact same pose as Spider-Woman. So yeah.

[chronovore]

Not a fan of Mark Miller.

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Millar

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[Rahxephon91]

This is'nt the first time he's done Marvel stuff either.

http://mognetcentral.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/uxforce2013005_dc31_lr_5d6b4.jpg
http://comics.imakinarium.net/notis/2009/11/091112_milo_manara_x_men/milo_manara_x_men_c.jpg
https://comicreadings.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/uncanny-x-men-12-milo-manara-variant.jpg
http://www.comiclist.com/media/blogs/news/UncannyAvengers_2_VariantManara.jpg
http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/9/40/52bca96b81b73/background.jpg

[chronovore]

Well, he's consistent.

I'd blame the editors if nothing else; I love Manara's work, but I know what I'm getting when I pick up a Manara book. A twitter friend said it best: "Hey, I'm all for erotic artwork, I just don't think it needs to be on the cover of a superhero comic."

[WanderingWind]

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I haven't bought a single DC book since they pulled that shit with Batwoman. It was my favorite book of like, all time, and you can check my posts about it on GAF way before any drama came up. Shit, I've read comics for 3 decades and  that was the only time I ever wrote in about something. Got a short, but pleasant response from Williams.

#ForeverSalty

[Rahxephon91]

No it shouldn't be on the cover of a superhero book. Especially on the cover of a female super hero comic by a company trying to push thier female characters in a more "positive" light.