Author Topic: Fable 3 (Read 27600 times)

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #60 on:** June 26, 2010, 09:27:42 PM »

Quote from: Borys on June 26, 2010, 07:15:32 PM

Fable was awesome, magical. I never played such a good fantasy action-RPG before.

Was it filled with whimsy?

tiesto · « **Reply #61 on:** June 27, 2010, 12:45:17 AM »

Quote from: maxy on June 19, 2010, 03:24:08 AM

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I like how you can charge up farts in this one (can you do that in the second one? Haven't played it yet)... guy in the chicken suit farting in old lady's face = AMAZING.

TripleA · « **Reply #62 on:** June 27, 2010, 12:53:06 AM »

Easily the most overrated videogame franchise, right up there with Resistance and Dead Rising.

Bildi · « **Reply #63 on:** June 27, 2010, 08:07:51 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on June 27, 2010, 12:45:17 AM

I like how you can charge up farts in this one (can you do that in the second one? Haven't played it yet)

You have the option to extend expressions for more effect in Fable 2, but it's timing based, and you can fail.

Running around seems pretty smooth. I hope they can remove all the clunkiness that pervades pretty much everything in Fable 2.

maxy · « **Reply #64 on:** July 17, 2010, 01:04:14 PM »

Fable II was "rushed"...we know Peter,we know

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Microsoft exclusive RPG Fable II was "terribly messy", "rushed" and suffered from "huge design flaws", creator Peter Molyneux has admitted.

Speaking at the Develop Conference in Brighton this afternoon, the Lionhead Studios boss went through a long list of Fable II features that he hated, before telling the audience how Fable 3 will improve upon them.

"Fable II, let's be honest about it, it has some terribly messy things about it," he said.

"Half of that, again being honest, was because we rushed at the end and we had this terrible phase where, the world looks this beautiful with this many game features, and then slowly transitioned into being less beautiful.

"On Fable II we had, at one point, 67,000 bugs. The Microsoft Test team rated us super black. No-one had been black before. They'd been red and orange and green. But we were super black. They said it's utterly impossible for anybody to come out as super black.

"That's why we had to reduce down what we had. But, to be honest with you, there were also huge design flaws in Fable II."

Molyneux said Lionhead failed to concentrate on Fable II's unique selling points. Players used only 60 per cent of the content of the game, research revealed. "It's just a crazy thing to do," Molyneux said.

Molyneux hated Fable II's map: "It was boring and tedious and no-one even knew it was a map." And he hated Fable II's female characters: "In Fable II, all our women looked like Russian shot putters."

In Fable 3, the 2D GUI has been replaced with a 3D space called The Sanctuary. And the game's women "have curves and soft bits".

One criticism of Fable II Lionhead appears to have failed to address is long loading times. "I hate loading. I really hate it. I know the journalists – wonderful people that they are – are going to slag us off about loading. We tried to minimise it.

"But we've got a big problem. Because a lot of our world is persistent, we can't afford the memory. We tried and experimented with trying to stream load it, but we didn't actually get it working."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/molyneux-fable-2-was-rushed

Bildi · « **Reply #65 on:** July 17, 2010, 08:19:46 PM »

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Molyneux hated Fable II's map: "It was boring and tedious and no-one even knew it was a map." And he hated Fable II's female characters: "In Fable II, all our women looked like Russian shot putters."

Molyneux retains some sense of sanity at least.

maxy · « **Reply #66 on:** July 29, 2010, 12:42:30 PM »

Edge preview

http://www.next-gen.biz/features/fable-iii-preview?page=0%2C0

Player character has a voice now...

MCD · « **Reply #67 on:** July 29, 2010, 12:50:52 PM »

YES! DEATH TO SILENT LEADS!

cool breeze · « **Reply #68 on:** July 29, 2010, 02:11:32 PM »

I was hoping to communicate solely through farting $:-\$

Mupepe · « **Reply #69 on:** July 29, 2010, 02:27:40 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on July 29, 2010, 12:59:57 PM

Series is godawful. Let it die.

I'LL LET YOU DIE, COHEN

Raban · « **Reply #70 on:** July 31, 2010, 12:36:46 AM »

Quote from: maxy on July 17, 2010, 01:04:14 PM

Fable II was "rushed"...we know Peter,we know

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Microsoft exclusive RPG Fable II was "terribly messy", "rushed" and suffered from "huge design flaws", creator Peter Molyneux has admitted.

Speaking at the Develop Conference in Brighton this afternoon, the Lionhead Studios boss went through a long list of Fable II features that he hated, before telling the audience how Fable 3 will improve upon them.

"Fable II, let's be honest about it, it has some terribly messy things about it," he said.

"Half of that, again being honest, was because we rushed at the end and we had this terrible phase where, the world looks this beautiful with this many game features, and then slowly transitioned into being less beautiful.

"On Fable II we had, at one point, 67,000 bugs. The Microsoft Test team rated us super black. No-one had been black before. They'd been red and orange and green. But we were super black. They said it's utterly impossible for anybody to come out as super black.

"That's why we had to reduce down what we had. But, to be honest with you, there were also huge design flaws in Fable II."

Molyneux said Lionhead failed to concentrate on Fable II's unique selling points. Players used only 60 per cent of the content of the game, research revealed. "It's just a crazy thing to do," Molyneux said.

Molyneux hated Fable II's map: "It was boring and tedious and no-one even knew it was a map." And he hated Fable II's female characters: "In Fable II, all our women looked like Russian shot putters."

In Fable 3, the 2D GUI has been replaced with a 3D space called The Sanctuary. And the game's women "have curves and soft bits".

One criticism of Fable II Lionhead appears to have failed to address is long loading times. "I hate loading. I really hate it. I know the journalists – wonderful people that they are – are going to slag us off about loading. We tried to minimise it.

"But we've got a big problem. Because a lot of our world is persistent, we can't afford the memory. We tried and experimented with trying to stream load it, but we didn't actually get it working."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/molyneux-fable-2-was-rushed

EDIT: As it stands I'm stoked for this game because it's coming out on PC. I thought the first game was alright, passed on the second, though.

chronovore · « **Reply #71 on:** August 02, 2010, 01:35:28 AM »

Quote from: Linkzg on July 29, 2010, 02:11:32 PM

I was hoping to communicate solely through farting $:-\$

Ah, emergent gameplay through farts. IIRC you can do that in Fable 2, though it stands that some will revere you while others revile you.

TripleA · « **Reply #72 on:** August 02, 2010, 05:44:29 PM »

PC version delayed

http://pc.ign.com/articles/110/1109940p1.html

This is good news, now I'll skip both versions.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #73 on:** August 02, 2010, 05:49:08 PM »

I'm not surprised...that I don't care.

maxy · « **Reply #74 on:** August 04, 2010, 10:29:57 AM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

chicken

Third · « **Reply #75 on:** August 04, 2010, 11:33:44 AM »

Lol, that was pretty good.

Fable III

The only X360 exclusive I'm looking forward to.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #76 on:** August 04, 2010, 10:44:28 PM »

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Peter Molyneux, the main man behind Fable, dropped some good news and some bad news about the next game in that series today: Fable III will not support Microsoft's Kinect controller when the game ships later this year.

But Molyneux says that Kinect support—in some still unknown form—will come to Fable III at after launch, according to a report from Joystiq. Which makes sense, given that Fable III will arrive on the Xbox 360 on October 26, a week before Kinect's arrives on November 4.

That report indicates that whatever motion control camera support was planned for Fable III didn't meet the expectations of developer Lionhead Studios. So, regardless of one crucial half of this combination being unavailable alongside the other, it appears that Kinect support is still TBD.

Molyneux is so full of shit its coming out of his ears.

maxy · « **Reply #77 on:** August 05, 2010, 08:11:53 AM »

Apparently Kinect stuff was(is) completely optional and non-important to the gameplay...some guy that works for Lionhead posts somewhere and he played like three things...one was not good,other two where good and fun...
Game is fully designed around controllers anyway...Kinect stuff can be chicken kicking

TripleA · « **Reply #78 on:** August 05, 2010, 09:22:24 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on August 04, 2010, 10:44:28 PM

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Peter Molyneux, the main man behind Fable, dropped some good news and some bad news about the next game in that series today: Fable III will not support Microsoft's Kinect controller when the game ships later this year.

But Molyneux says that Kinect support—in some still unknown form—will come to Fable III at after launch, according to a report from Joystiq. Which makes sense, given that Fable III will arrive on the Xbox 360 on October 26, a week before Kinect's arrives on November 4.

That report indicates that whatever motion control camera support was planned for Fable III didn't meet the expectations of developer Lionhead Studios. So, regardless of one crucial half of this combination being unavailable alongside the other, it appears that Kinect support is still TBD.

Molyneux is so full of shit its coming out of his ears.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #79 on:** August 16, 2010, 11:34:46 PM »

I don't know what I dislike more. Fable 2, or the fact that I 1000'd it.

chronovore · « **Reply #80 on:** August 18, 2010, 03:03:16 AM »

I enjoyed Fable 2, but probably because I refused to 1000 it.

That doll-trading thing was a crappy, mean-spirited thing to put in. There's no reason to go online except to get the dolls, everyone only gets one... lame. I enjoyed seeing all the other players as orbs mapped with their gamertag's icon, but overall, wat da hell. Wasn't it mean enough to assign "lackey" or sidekick status to co-op gameplay?

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #81 on:** August 18, 2010, 03:09:56 AM »

I only got that doll one because some random orb guy just started giving them all to me.

chronovore · « **Reply #82 on:** August 20, 2010, 02:31:48 AM »

Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on August 18, 2010, 03:09:56 AM

I only got that doll one because some random orb guy just started giving them all to me.

That's Molyneux's dream scenario: chickenhawking in Albion.

maxy · « **Reply #83 on:** September 09, 2010, 12:20:45 PM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

RPG overload incoming

Two Worlds 2
Gothic 4
Divinity II - Flames of Vengeance
Fallout:New Vegas
Fable 3

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #84 on:** September 09, 2010, 12:23:35 PM »

Quote from: maxy on September 09, 2010, 12:20:45 PM

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

RPG overload incoming

Two Worlds 2
Gothic 4
Divinity II - Flames of Vengeance
Fallout:New Vegas
~~Fable 3~~ Recettear

.

maxy · « **Reply #85 on:** September 09, 2010, 12:25:30 PM »

hmmmm

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #86 on:** September 30, 2010, 10:49:52 AM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

G The Resurrected · « **Reply #87 on:** September 30, 2010, 11:03:27 AM »

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/splash/f/fable3/revolution.htm

Join the revolution for in game rewards. the more who join the more rewards that will unlock.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #88 on:** September 30, 2010, 11:17:55 AM »

DLC for Fable 2, AssCreed, TFU and Fallout 3 are all on sale this week. Picked up the two F2 DLCs for like $9.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #89 on:** October 11, 2010, 11:15:37 AM »

Raban · « **Reply #90 on:** October 11, 2010, 12:48:39 PM »

Day 1.

Mupepe · « **Reply #91 on:** October 11, 2010, 01:34:47 PM »

I love the prostitutes in Fable 2. I married one last night and then married a furniture girl. Then I put them in houses right next to each other and they're constantly fighting outside over me.

Bildi · « **Reply #92 on:** October 11, 2010, 10:42:29 PM »

I married as many prostitutes as possible in Fable 2 and kept them in separate areas to keep them happy.

The only non-prostitute I married was some guy who I wanted to have a baby with for an achievement. Man I was a bitch.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #93 on:** October 11, 2010, 10:44:47 PM »

Looks like someone attended a Pride parade.

demi · « **Reply #94 on:** October 11, 2010, 10:50:00 PM »

I'm gettin this cuz it has $20 cred on Amazon, and everything else is $10 sooo yeah. Also that pic is devoid of leather daddies like Fable 2 had.

Mupepe · « **Reply #95 on:** October 12, 2010, 11:21:41 AM »

Quote from: Bildi on October 11, 2010, 10:42:29 PM

I married as many prostitutes as possible in Fable 2 and kept them in separate areas to keep them happy.

The only non-prostitute I married was some guy who I wanted to have a baby with for an achievement. Man I was a bitch.

you had a kid with a dude? and that's an achievement??

Bildi · « **Reply #96 on:** October 12, 2010, 05:57:35 PM »

The worst part is I had to resort to heterosexual coupling to make it happen.

maxy · « **Reply #97 on:** October 13, 2010, 01:38:15 PM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Raban · « **Reply #98 on:** October 13, 2010, 01:39:35 PM »

I was mad interested in this until I heard there's no pause menu or any menus at all! What the fuck.

Raban · « **Reply #99 on:** October 13, 2010, 02:39:34 PM »

I don't understand why Fable has continued to abandon its roots with each game. The first Fable game was fine, the hype was ridiculous, but if you put that aside when you played the game, it was a solid ARPG. However, like, each game in the series advertises fixing something that didn't need fixing. The game was already linear, but they added a guide to tell you were to go. The combat was never overwhelming, but they added a stupid fucking dog into the game. Now in Fable 3, the menus were perfectly fine before, as well as light RPG elements, but now they're completely gone!

maxy · « **Reply #100 on:** October 13, 2010, 02:47:59 PM »

Quote from: startselect on October 13, 2010, 02:39:34 PM

I don't understand why Fable has continued to abandon its roots with each game. The first Fable game was fine, the hype was ridiculous, but if you put that aside when you played the game, it was a solid ARPG. However, like, each game in the series advertises fixing something that didn't need fixing. The game was already linear, but they added a guide to tell you were to go. The combat was never overwhelming, but they added a stupid fucking dog into the game. Now in Fable 3, the menus were perfectly fine before, as well as light RPG elements, but now they're completely gone!

$$$,accessibility,simplicity,mass market,females...

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #101 on:** October 13, 2010, 02:52:03 PM »

Not a big fable guy but I think they are making the right move similar to Mass Effect. The "RPG" elements of Fable were always some of the the weakest elements to me. Probably better to stop overly pretending it is that and become the somewhat more open Zelda with moral choices it was always destined to be.

Raban · « **Reply #102 on:** October 13, 2010, 02:59:22 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on October 13, 2010, 02:52:03 PM

Not a big fable guy but I think they are making the right move similar to Mass Effect. The "RPG" elements of Fable were always some of the the weakest elements to me. Probably better to stop overly pretending it is that and become the somewhat more open Zelda with moral choices it was always destined to be.

Yeah but even Zelda has a solid inventory system.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #103 on:** October 13, 2010, 03:13:44 PM »

The menus absolutely sucked in Fable 2, and the dog was awesome and did not make combat easier.

cool breeze · « **Reply #104 on:** October 13, 2010, 03:43:00 PM »

The menus were awful in Fable 2. The problem is that instead of fixing them, Fable 3 is just making a 2D list of poo into a 3D house (of poo) you can walk around in. They're actually making it take longer to do most of that shit, but they justify it by saving it is more intuitive to walk around in a house and look at modeled stuff. Even Playstation Home has a 2D menu to quickly access stuff when you don't feel like doing the zombie shuffle over to the door or whatever. The Fable series is like one step forward, then you slip and crack your skull.

The dog was nice choice, though. Badass pets in games are awesome like in Torchlight.

Raban · « **Reply #105 on:** October 13, 2010, 03:45:18 PM »

I hate pets.

Mupepe · « **Reply #106 on:** October 13, 2010, 05:22:24 PM »

The menus were totally craptastic. They're slow laggy and unintuitive. Fable 1 had awesome menus.

Raban · « **Reply #107 on:** October 13, 2010, 05:40:37 PM »

Quote from: Mupepe on October 13, 2010, 05:22:24 PM

The menus were totally craptastic. They're slow laggy and unintuitive. Fable 1 had awesome menus.

This is why I consider it a loss. I didn't play much of Fable 2 because I heard it was more or less inferior to the first in every way, which is sad, because Fable 1 barely manages to be memorable.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #108 on:** October 13, 2010, 06:04:05 PM »

Big surprise, Black & White doesn't do menus either and it's really stupid.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #109 on:** October 13, 2010, 06:25:42 PM »

Oh god the inventory in Fable

Raban · « **Reply #110 on:** October 13, 2010, 06:29:43 PM »

It was fantastic in Fable 1!

Well, maybe not fantastic, but it wasn't terrible.

naff · « **Reply #111 on:** October 14, 2010, 01:24:46 AM »

I don't remember what the inventory like in Fable, I remember liking the game A LOT though. I played 2 until I escaped from capture then got bored. I don't really know why but I definitely found Fable more compelling than Fable 2.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #112 on:** October 14, 2010, 01:31:04 AM »

Sorry meant Fable 2

Raban · « **Reply #113 on:** October 14, 2010, 01:39:44 AM »

Quote from: quietID on October 14, 2010, 01:24:46 AM

I don't remember what the inventory like in Fable, I remember liking the game A LOT though. I played 2 until I escaped from capture then got bored. I don't really know why but I definitely found Fable more compelling than Fable 2.

Oh I can tell you why. Because Fable 1 > Fable 2. Plain and simple. Each game is like a step backward on almost every feature.

naff · « **Reply #114 on:** October 14, 2010, 02:31:26 AM »

Quote from: startselect on October 14, 2010, 01:39:44 AM

Quote from: quietID on October 14, 2010, 01:24:46 AM
I don't remember what the inventory like in Fable, I remember liking the game A LOT though. I played 2 until I escaped from capture then got bored. I don't really know why but I definitely found Fable more compelling than Fable 2.

Oh I can tell you why. Because Fable 1 > Fable 2. Plain and simple. Each game is like a step backward on almost every feature.

thanks for the explanation.

I'd probably have to play the game again to figure out why I liked it more. I remember it made me feel really powerful and the battle system being more rewarding (even though it was still really, really easy) and the environments feeling cooler. Fable was also shorter though and didn't have a lot of the banal, badly implemented Molyneux magic crap he always wanked on about in interviews. I possibly spent too much time on that stuff, making me more bored than if I just focused on the core game.

Raban · « **Reply #115 on:** October 14, 2010, 02:52:14 AM »

It seems like every Lionhead game suffers from declining to follow the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" guide. There was basically nothing wrong with Fable 1, outside of it falling horribly short of its hype, but that's Moleneux's fault. Yeah, Fable 1 was stupid easy, especially the more you played, but it was just a neat game. One of the few games I 100%'d out of choice, simply because I didn't want to stop playing.

Damian79 · « **Reply #116 on:** October 14, 2010, 02:57:34 AM »

You guys make it sound like either Fable was anything above decent.

Raban · « **Reply #117 on:** October 14, 2010, 03:21:13 AM »

Quote from: Damian79 on October 14, 2010, 02:57:34 AM

You guys make it sound like either Fable was anything above decent.

I loved Fable 1

Damian79 · « **Reply #118 on:** October 14, 2010, 03:36:19 AM »

Fable 1 was probably a better game but doesnt gome close to the greatness of Fallout(not 3) or Baldurs gate or Planescape Torment. At the time KotOR was probably the best rpg available. It seems as time passes us we are getting crappier and crappier rpg's and people still love them.

Raban · « **Reply #119 on:** October 14, 2010, 03:46:31 AM »

How can you seriously call Fable 1 an RPG, or even compare it to one? Also, what is with this condescension?

Fable 1 is, at best, a solid Zelda clone. Nobody's comparing it to any RPGs. We're comparing Fable 1 to...other Fable games.

Now, KOTOR is great, and I haven't gotten around to playing those other oft-mentioned RPGs in your post, but Fable 1 is far from crap. To be honest I haven't met a single person who actually beat it who didn't think it was good fun.

Not every game has to be a genre-defining, ground-breaking, million-seller, jerkface.

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Author Topic: Fable 3 (Read 27600 times)