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[TakingBackSunday]

Yeah that's what I kept doing too.  I lost that one battle, and to fix it during my retry I just used a few of those sprays.

[Lucretius]

I still haven't upgraded anything yet. Still waiting until I've found Lionheart weapon for Lightning.
I don't even know if I've missed the treasure containing the weapon.

You find it in a treasure sphere at the beginning of Chapter 12, right after the first store that lets you buy it.  So don't buy it... just walk a screen and take it from the sphere for free yo.

[demi]

[Raban]

lol wut

[Smooth Groove]

Wow, Himu's lost a lot of weight.  What diet did he go on? 

[Ichirou]

I'd hang with those bros.

[demi]

Borys with his "wife" & Himuro

Who's the other two

[Smooth Groove]

Glasses dude looks like that Gaffer who used to be a mod.  I forgot what's his name but everyone's always making fun of him. 

[demi]

I'm gonna say Bebpo on the left

[Fragamemnon]

you guys are mean.

(hopes no one takes photos of me picking up Starcraft 2 at midnight wearing a korean pro starcraft t-shirt)

[Raban]

Glasses dude looks like that Gaffer who used to be a mod.  I forgot what's his name but everyone's always making fun of him. 

:sp0rsk1
nah, maybe a distant cousin

[Van Cruncheon]

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FUGS

[demi]

Prole in the middle, with his stern and menacing glare. He's telling us... this game has stats

[Mr. Gundam]

15 1/2 hours in, just made it to the beginning of chapter 8.

[Rman]

I'm 40 hours into the game and only have 14k Gil. 
That's without buying anything. I think I've sold a few small things.

But I'f I were to sell all of the disposable items, I would make 1mln easy.

The Lionheart weapon is the best weapon for Lightning because it offers the best balance for her ravager/commando skills.

Yeah, the commerce system of this FF is distinguished mentally-challenged.  That's why I'm not bothering with the Ultimate Weapons.

[Ichirou]

Prole in the middle, with his stern and menacing glare. He's telling us... this game has stats

If it were Prole, that would be a copy of Ar Tonelico, not FFXII.

[demi]

Eh, crap is crap. But numbers... are forever

[Bebpo]

Yeah, the commerce system of this FF is distinguished mentally-challenged.  That's why I'm not bothering with the Ultimate Weapons.

I never got an ultimate weapon.  Not worth the grind.

[Don Flamenco]

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FUGS

neko-fugly

[OptimoPeach]

When you guys say this game is easy, how easy are we talking? My dad just got the FF13 + 360 package and I'm wondering if he will be able to beat the game with a strategy guide. He's had trouble getting through the last few FFs, but it's more because he's been daunted by the scope of games ever since everything went 3D and tends to get hopelessly lost and give up -- which I'm assuming won't be a problem here with the linearity. I'm mostly curious about how easy the battle system is to pick up and whether or not the bosses might give him trouble

[demi]

It's pretty easy up until you get full control of your party and how to develop them, then you have to start swapping out characters for their unique abilities, how proficient they are at X job. You also have to start relying more on Paradigms more to increase the DPS instead of having to wait for the bar to fill.

You can still take your time, since the star ratings dont mean shit in the end.

[Don Flamenco]

It's pretty easy up until you get full control of your party and how to develop them, then you have to start swapping out characters for their unique abilities, how proficient they are at X job. You also have to start relying more on Paradigms more to increase the DPS instead of having to wait for the bar to fill.

You can still take your time, since the star ratings dont mean shit in the end.

also, you don't get full control of your party for 20 hours.  Not to troll, but that fact is really worth mentioning...

I'll get back to you one day FFXIII.

[demi]

Meh, I preferred it when it was static setups. I hate juggling and babysitting characters I dont use.

[iconoclast]

Just use Light/Fang/Hope. All bases are covered in that group, no need to touch Snow, Vanille, or Sazh (those three together would make a decent group too).

Anyway, 5 starred all the missions. The A and B rank missions are fun, C and D are boring. Mission 64 in particular was a good fight, probably the hardest in the game. I like how it starts out slow and then gets harder and harder the lower the enemy's HP is.

Now I am just trying to farm a couple Dark Matters from the Long Gui's, which is a major pain in the ass. They are the strongest enemies in the game (16+ million HP and can 1-shot a maxed out team), and it only has about 5% drop rate. Shit sux, I just want to get this done and finally play Yakuza 3 and Strange Journey (...and Infinite Space and Perfect Dark and Pokemon).

[tiesto]

Somewhere in ch 10, just beat

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Cid

[close]

Pretty tough fight, took me 3 tries... used Light/Fang/Snow, man rav/rav/sab is a pretty good combo.

Hopefully soon I will be up to ch 11, I wanna see what the big deal is

[demi]

Yeah I saw some vids online, lots of people use Fang( or Light)/Hope/Sazh or Light/Fang/Hope

I've taken to using the Light/Hope/Fang combo, but I want to grow Sazh up to get some Syn skills (HASTEeeeeeee)

[Third]

Just finished it. Is the final boss a joke?

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The boss has three forms. First form is easy, second form can get tough. But the last form is easier than the first one. A bit disappointing. Stagger status basically means he's dead.

[close]

My crystarium is now expanded. Will grind now and do some hunts. GOWIII can wait.

I'd give the game an 8/10
My personal lowest rated main FF game. All the other main FF games are 9+ score quality.

[Bebpo]

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last form is a time thing.  You have to stagger him twice before the time runs out.  It's not hard but the point is a speed challenge.

[close]

[iconoclast]

I just realized that Shaolong Gui's are what I should be killing for Dark Matter, not Long Gui. This will go much faster now. Got quite a few Platinum Ingots from the Long Gui's though, so it wasn't a complete waste of time.

(Long Gui is the one with 16m HP, Shaolong are the baby version basically.)

[Mr. Gundam]

Brynhildr is a fucking pain in the ass.

[Third]

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last form is a time thing.  You have to stagger him twice before the time runs out.  It's not hard but the point is a speed challenge.

[close]

Yeah, I know. I only had to stagger him once though. And he was dead. Did a com/com/rav attack after the stagger. My characters were buffed with haste, bravery and faith. Got a 5 star rating and the superstar trophy for that fight.

I always start each fight with rav/syn/com. Lightning has quick stagger thanks to the Lionheart, which I've upgraded now. Hope buffs the team with haste, and Fang deals some massive com damage. By the time everyone is buffed with haste, an enemy is almost stggered thanks to Light's ravager and quick stagger combo. Then I'll do an agression attack (com/rav/com) and a normal fight is then basically over.

I expected the game to be much harder to be honest. I've only died in the beginning of the game because I didn't fully optimize the paradigm system. Once you know how to place the paradigms, the fights will be quite easy.

Even the huge turtle things that are roaming Gran Pulse die pretty fast if you buff yourself and saboteur the enemy. I'm going to kill them all today for that catalyst item.

Some of the hunts are pretty hard though. An enemy wiped my whole team in two hits. Time for revenge...

[iconoclast]

Finally 1000'd this, took around 83 hours. I got pretty lucky with Dark Matters I guess, since I got 5 of them in a row. After that I just had to spend the rest of my money upgrading/buying the rest of the items I needed for the Treasure Hunter achievement, which was incredibly tedious. Lots of grinding involved, but at least the turtles are fun to fight. I don't think I'll ever get tired of cracking their skulls with a 999k Highwind.

Even the huge turtle things that are roaming Gran Pulse die pretty fast if you buff yourself and saboteur the enemy. I'm going to kill them all today for that catalyst item.

Some of the hunts are pretty hard though. An enemy wiped my whole team in two hits. Time for revenge...

Just make sure you're killing the giant Adamantortoises with the armor and tusks, those are the ones that have Ingots (25% drop) and Traps (1%). The small ones don't drop anything worthwhile AFAIK. I recommend repeating mission 63 over and over and clearing out the other 4 Adamantortoises that are wandering around if you're going for the Treasure Hunter achivement. Best way to earn CP + money imo.

[tiesto]

Brynhildr is a fucking pain in the ass.

From what I remember, I used rav/rav, then switched to rav/med when I was low on HP. Took me like 3 tries, I had much more trouble with Odin.

[Mr. Gundam]

Brynhildr is a fucking pain in the ass.

From what I remember, I used rav/rav, then switched to rav/med when I was low on HP. Took me like 3 tries, I had much more trouble with Odin.

Got it done on my fourth try last night. The debuffs didn't stick the first three battles, but finally did for some reason on the fourth try, making it really easy.

[Third]

Just make sure you're killing the giant Adamantortoises with the armor and tusks, those are the ones that have Ingots (25% drop) and Traps (1%). The small ones don't drop anything worthwhile AFAIK. I recommend repeating mission 63 over and over and clearing out the other 4 Adamantortoises that are wandering around if you're going for the Treasure Hunter achivement. Best way to earn CP + money imo.

How the hell do I beat an Adamantortoises? 
That thing kills the whole party with one blow...

I'm going to do the growth egg mission now. Beat the normal Ochu a few minutes ago. That was hard.
I'm going to try to beat Neochu the Vanille way now, with the Death spell...

[iconoclast]

Get everyone's HP to 12k+ and have some damage reduction rings equipped. You can get a couple rings that give you 40% earth damage resistance (his stomps are earth attacks), so make sure at least Hope has one equipped. I think my usual strategy for the fight was something like:

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Fang/Hope/Light:

Syn/Syn/Syn: Haste, Bravera, Faithra, Protect, and Shell
Com/Med/Med: Hit his leg with Ruin a few times for stagger meter and heal
Rav/Rav/Rav: Stagger him quickly (might need to build his stagger meter to 750%+, depending on your strength)
Com/Med/Med: Highwind the leg and heal + hit Ruin on the other leg after landing
Rav/Rav/Rav: stagger the other leg
Com/Med/Med: Highwind and kill the other leg to knock him down
Sab/Rav/Rav: Debuff the turtle while he's knocked over and stagger him
Com/Rav/Com: Finish him

Might be forgetting something here, since I stopped fighting those turtles a while ago. They get replaced with the Long Gui's after you complete the ring of Cie'th stones in the steppes.

You can also kill him by starting with Fang, throwing some buffs on your team and quickly summoning your eidolon before you die. Debuff him, stagger him, then do some damage in Gestalt mode. One that ends, debuff him again and finish him off with your regular party. The only problem with that of course, is needing 3 TP every time you fight one in order to summon.

[close]

Oh yeah, I recommend getting Genji Gloves for Fang. They allow you to hit for over 99,999.

[Third]

Thanks, for the tips.
But I don't think I'll be getting the platinum trophy soon. Seems to be too time consuming.

[demi]

I love the open world of Pulse. It's so nice to wander around and enjoy the sights, with the music that goes along with it.

[Lucretius]

I love the open world of Pulse. It's so nice to wander around and enjoy the sights, with the music that goes along with it.

Some of the vistas in Gran Pulse are the most beautiful scenes I've seen in a video game.  I wish the rest of the game had been like that.

[Bebpo]

I love the open world of Pulse. It's so nice to wander around and enjoy the sights, with the music that goes along with it.

Some of the vistas in Gran Pulse are the most beautiful scenes I've seen in a video game.  I wish the rest of the game had been like that.

Hopefully that's what FFXIV is.  Same engine but all wide open game.

[tiesto]

Yes, FINALLY got to Pulse. Gonna finish the Hammerhead DLC on Sat morning, then do some grindin in Pulse all Sunday.

[Mr. Gundam]

I'm on Chapter 10. How close am I to Pulse?

[iconoclast]

Very close. Just slog through the rest of that chapter and you'll be there before you know it.

[demi]

Jesus this game went from easy to HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU'RE DEAD ALREADY

Probably wasnt a good idea to try and slog through the game without doing any Cieth Stones

edit: Ok, I guess I'm not the only one who's dealt with this. GameFAQs reveals delicious farming spots and good tips.

[demi]

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bu bu bu there's no limit breaks


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Army of One

[demi]

What's the quickest way to level up weapons? There has to be some secret grind trick involved.

[Bebpo]

Hire cheap labor to grind for you?

[Mr. Gundam]

Holy balls. Army of One is awesome. Is that a Level 5 Ravager move?

[demi]

Unlocked at Stage 9 Crystarium (Chapter 12)

Bebpo-

I'd rather get a reply from someone who didnt give up

Like you

[Bebpo]

Beating the game is all that matters.

beating a game

[demi]

Bebpo- WRONG on Lightning, WRONG on Final Fantasy, WRONG on Korean Grinding Tactics

[Himu]

Lightning

I really want to fill out stage 8 on my main roles for my guys but I'm worried about the amount of grinding required.

Tips so I can get this shit filled out?

Also, I got to a C'eth uh...stone? And it mentioned way points, but now I'm like 10-20 minutes of walking time away from the main hub area of Pulse. Thing is, I don't see a waypoint option when I examine it. What gives?

I'm liking the hunts though. Going to different areas to find marks gives the game the sense of adventure it has been lacking heavily. Still wanna fix this waypoint issue, though.

[demi]

Himu I am in your EXACT position. I am grindan to fill out Stage 8 for the main 3 jobs.

Do this-

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=950899&topic=53967968

You rack up 6000+ within seconds - Just use 2 COMs and spam Blitz, with a healer in the middle (Hope or Vanille). When you get stronger, turn the Medic into a RAV so they can cast AOE spells like -ra and -aga

I'm about finished with my grind, so I can continue the story


Cieth Stones are the hunts. Some hunts are waypoints. Aka teleports, so you can warp around Pulse quicker. But you have to finish the Mark to use it.

[Himu]

I did. The mark for that c'eth stone was to kill the one eyed guys, killed them, mission complete, went back, and I can't teleport.

[demi]

Because you have to unlock another waypoint

[iconoclast]

What's the quickest way to level up weapons? There has to be some secret grind trick involved.

Use 36 Hard Bones (you can buy them from Creature Comforts) to instantly get a 3x multiplier, and then figure out how much EXP you need to take it to the max rank. There's a list here that has all that info: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=214099

The best item to use for getting a ton of EXP fast is the Ultracompact Reactor from one of the stores stores near the bottom. It costs 50,000 gil and gives 40,000 exp IIRC. Particle Accelerators are good too, but the gil to exp ratio isn't as good.

That's all there is to it really. Get a 3x multiplier using organic components and then load it up with mechanical components. You'll probably need to spend 150k-200k gil to go from a level 1 weapon to a maxed out tier 2.

Only the orange Cie'th stones on the map are waypoints, btw.

[Himu]

Because you have to unlock another waypoint

Doh!

Does completing a mission net you with the same reward, no matter what your score for the battle is?

[demi]

Yes

[demi]

The best item to use for getting a ton of EXP fast is the Ultracompact Reactor from one of the stores stores near the bottom. It costs 50,000 gil and gives 40,000 exp IIRC. Particle Accelerators are good too, but the gil to exp ratio isn't as good.

I copied that list of Catalysts required. Is there a list of where to get those catalysts, and what's a good GIL grind then? Those Platinum Ingots? Can you dump X amount of Reactors and go from Lv 1 -> MAX immediately? Or do you have to do it one level at a time?

[Himu]

Oh good. I was thinking I got a different accessory reward or something for finishing off a mark with 3 stars rather than 5.