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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #30120 on: April 20, 2022, 12:23:08 AM »
What is a "big budget" Fortnite chasing Crazy Taxi supposed to look like exactly?

My uncle at Sega sent me a screenshot (100% in game!!1!!!)

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« Reply #30121 on: April 20, 2022, 12:25:50 AM »
What is a "big budget" Fortnite chasing Crazy Taxi supposed to look like exactly?

My uncle at Sega sent me a screenshot (100% in game!!1!!!)

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Time to make some crazy money. 8)

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« Reply #30122 on: April 20, 2022, 12:26:51 AM »
Leaked vid!



Looks great! Sega done it again. :win

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« Reply #30123 on: April 20, 2022, 12:34:00 AM »
My uncle at Sega sent me a screenshot (100% in game!!1!!!)

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A straight white male protagonist in 2022. Can we not? :social

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« Reply #30124 on: April 20, 2022, 03:14:15 AM »
https://twitter.com/GBAtemp/status/1516068328632168453

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/04/sonic-origins-rated-in-australia

Never played 3&K and only played a little of CD, excited to experience the definitive Christian Whitehead versions.

Also the key art looks fantastic.

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« Reply #30125 on: April 20, 2022, 01:07:33 PM »
What

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« Reply #30126 on: April 21, 2022, 09:42:38 AM »
https://twitter.com/wiki_dead/status/1517049134653612032?

There you go guys, mods to fix the controls and add old music plus actual lightgun capability. :)

I'm semi-expecting a Typing of the Dead mod within 6 months.

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« Reply #30127 on: April 21, 2022, 10:42:47 AM »
Klonoa coming same day to consoles that run better than the switch, HOTD Remake releasing on platforms that run better than switch

Just Ls all around for the sub-optimal device
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« Reply #30128 on: April 21, 2022, 11:23:14 AM »
And let's not even talk about how much Kirby sucks.

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« Reply #30129 on: April 21, 2022, 10:51:12 PM »
Klonoa coming same day to consoles that run better than the switch, HOTD Remake releasing on platforms that run better than switch

Just Ls all around for the sub-optimal device

It's almost like there's a segment of the population that doesn't care about graphics as much as you do. :omg

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« Reply #30130 on: April 21, 2022, 10:58:46 PM »
Man, I like Klonoa a heap.

2's into-the-z-axis stuff was a PITA, but otherwise it's all great.

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« Reply #30131 on: April 22, 2022, 12:17:05 AM »
Scott Pilgrim $5 on Amazon (Xbox code)

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« Reply #30132 on: April 22, 2022, 12:17:33 AM »
Klonoa coming same day to consoles that run better than the switch, HOTD Remake releasing on platforms that run better than switch

Just Ls all around for the sub-optimal device

It's almost like there's a segment of the population that doesn't care about graphics as much as you do. :omg

what does graphics have to do with it running at 20fps (at best)

i grew up on pixels  :lol
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« Reply #30133 on: April 22, 2022, 12:31:38 AM »
Exactly. :) We're all free to enjoy what we want.

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« Reply #30134 on: April 22, 2022, 10:19:31 AM »
Klonoa coming same day to consoles that run better than the switch, HOTD Remake releasing on platforms that run better than switch

Just Ls all around for the sub-optimal device
Both will still sell better on the Switch because portability trumps graphical upgrades.
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« Reply #30135 on: April 22, 2022, 01:49:38 PM »
Hope they can upsell some extra batteries
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« Reply #30136 on: April 22, 2022, 08:07:47 PM »
Pretty sure nobody cares about Halo here but holy shit what a disaster 343 is.

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« Reply #30137 on: April 22, 2022, 08:53:49 PM »
Pretty sure nobody cares about Halo here but holy shit what a disaster 343 is.
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« Reply #30138 on: April 27, 2022, 08:16:30 AM »


Sega :umad
the MVG guy thinks this is fake.

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« Reply #30140 on: April 27, 2022, 11:07:27 AM »
:exxy

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« Reply #30141 on: April 27, 2022, 12:26:24 PM »
Brb, joining the Disney protestors in Florida
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« Reply #30143 on: April 28, 2022, 11:34:24 AM »
Square are huge dicks, didn't see this one coming...

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« Reply #30144 on: April 28, 2022, 02:54:16 PM »
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2022/04/28/xbox-and-bethesda-showcase-on-sunday-june-12/

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Today, we are excited to announce that the Xbox & Bethesda Games Showcase will stream on Sunday, June 12 at 10 a.m. PT. This show will feature amazing titles coming from Xbox Game Studios, Bethesda, and our partners around the world.

The Xbox & Bethesda Games Showcase will include everything you need to know about the diverse lineup of games coming soon to the Xbox ecosystem, including upcoming releases to Game Pass on Xbox and PC.

Actual Starfield gameplay maybe? 

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« Reply #30145 on: April 28, 2022, 03:27:53 PM »
Square are huge dicks, didn't see this one coming...

So is Naka tho  :doge

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« Reply #30146 on: April 28, 2022, 03:35:40 PM »
Maybe they removed him when they saw what a shit show the game was.
 :doge

Edit: He said that they knew the game was unfinished and released it anyway.  Having tried the demo I'm not sure if that would have mattered.  It was an all-around awful game.
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« Reply #30147 on: April 28, 2022, 03:42:33 PM »
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You all laugh but look at this garbage called Human Park (scroll one minute in to listen to the crypto MMO buzzword vomit):


It just received $25 MILLION in VC funding (VHS is the developer). I found out about it because they're hiring about 100 people right now on LinkedIn to work on this poo poo. Someone gave 25 million to what VHS describes this way: "Human Park begins its journey as a collection of 20,000 living and breathing nude avatars. Think of these 'Noods' as a blank canvas for Web3 identities at the dawn of metaverse existence."

Trash NFT MMOs are apparently the future and Star Citizen needs to up its game. NFTs are links to JPEGs. There are millions of JPEGs already released by Croberts that are ready to be minted. The secret is not to try to market to gamers but to market to degenerate gamblers in the crypto ecosystem that don't care about playing the actual game. Star Citizen is perfect for this.

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« Reply #30148 on: April 28, 2022, 03:55:41 PM »
Maybe they removed him when they saw what a shit show the game was.
 :doge

Edit: He said that they knew the game was unfinished and released it anyway.  Having tried the demo I'm not sure if that would have mattered.  It was an all-around awful game.

It sounds like a battle between Naka who wanted to keep at the game with more money & time to try to turn it around and SE who saw the core game was bad and didn't think it was salvageable so they cut their losses and just released it.

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #30149 on: April 28, 2022, 04:35:13 PM »
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« Reply #30150 on: April 28, 2022, 05:34:21 PM »
tbf I'll believe it when Naka says Arzest doesn't care about quality.  :doge

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #30151 on: April 28, 2022, 10:04:18 PM »

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« Reply #30152 on: April 29, 2022, 09:26:02 AM »

Didn't expect the speedbagging on the feels near the end...  I've been recently playing Contra with my son (11), who thinks it's one of the greatest games of all time too, and it's gaming bliss that has transcended the medium greater than I ever imagined.  :rejoice

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« Reply #30155 on: May 01, 2022, 09:25:05 AM »

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« Reply #30157 on: May 01, 2022, 12:54:24 PM »
The Farms? :info
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« Reply #30158 on: May 02, 2022, 02:38:19 AM »
Square sold Eidos and all its IPs to Embracer for 300 millions.

Edit : Includes Tomb Raider, Deus Ex, Thief, Legacy of Kain... Square kept Just Cause, Life is Strange, Outriders.
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« Reply #30159 on: May 02, 2022, 03:10:51 AM »


Only 300 mil for the whole shabang
I wonder why MS didn't bite.

Perfect Dark 2 truely is cursed  :lol



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« Reply #30160 on: May 02, 2022, 05:28:35 AM »
There's something dodgy about that deal. Tomb Raider alone is worth more than that.
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« Reply #30161 on: May 02, 2022, 06:13:22 AM »
There's something dodgy about that deal. Tomb Raider alone is worth more than that.
It's very weird indeed. Perhaps Square Enix wanted to lose dead weight for their own restructure/merger/sale or they're expanding their partnership with Embracer.
They bought Eidos themselves for ~$100 million back in 2009. Which was a steal.

Still, I can't imagine Microsoft wouldn't have bought it for $500 million. Maybe their lawyers told them to wait and not buy new things until the Activision deal closes(?).
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« Reply #30162 on: May 02, 2022, 06:33:07 AM »
That is way underpriced, and 900m less than what EA paid for codemasters :doge

I'm shocked Sony didn't go for it at that price.
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« Reply #30163 on: May 02, 2022, 06:50:20 AM »
WTF that is cheap.

$300m to bring back Deus Ex and Lara's triangular tiddies.

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« Reply #30164 on: May 02, 2022, 07:42:16 AM »
Considering the frenzy of acquisitions recently this does sound really cheap even considering that those titles are not as valuable as they once were. Even if the financial results were judged as very sore by the Japanese HQ, Tomb Raider and Deus Ex kept a lot of cachet through the titles that SquEidos released.
The status for Hitman is reportedly a little confusing (it's not certain IO owns it wholesale).

I do wonder how much the internal craftsmanship / talent pool in those studios factor in those prices though. My impression is that a lot of the workforce is not really permanently bound and the artistic higher ups can and will often jump ship at one point if they want it.

I suppose there's an argument that everyone else is paying silly money at overvalued prices or that Square just wanted to unload it at all costs. As with all such deals we're not really privy to the small details so maybe there's something there ? Or we people seriously overestimate the value of Tomb Raider ? How much of a money sink Eidos is actually ?

That is way underpriced, and 900m less than what EA paid for codemasters :doge

I'm shocked Sony didn't go for it at that price.

CodeMasters holds the F1 and WRC licences though and those are apparently very juicy.
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« Reply #30165 on: May 02, 2022, 08:08:08 AM »
Also not sure if one should put trust in Embracer doing a better job with those old beloved titles.
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« Reply #30166 on: May 02, 2022, 10:25:16 AM »
I dunno, they bought a team of ~1100 people and the backlog of all the IP's and assets for $300 million.
They could potentially make up for that with 1 new Tomb Raider release.

I guess Square Enix realized that if they wanted to get back into the game with Deus Ex and Tomb Raider and do it right it would cost them more than they were willing to spend to be competitive.
Microsoft bought RareWare for $375 million and they didn't even get all of the IP's at that price.

My brother also works at an Embracer studio and no one was aware this was planned.
The industry rumor was that Sony was going to buy these assets from Square Enix.
So maybe Embracer came in with a higher bid or Sony plans to buy the rest?

Next up is Ubisoft. Sony, Microsoft and Netflix are all interested.
My bro says that might be why MS and Sony passed on this.

Embracer buying studios is of no risk to MS and Sony as their business is multi-platform.
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« Reply #30168 on: May 02, 2022, 12:19:22 PM »
They could potentially make up for that with 1 new Tomb Raider release.

Potentially is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
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« Reply #30169 on: May 02, 2022, 12:31:04 PM »
I mean the management reportedly sucked & all that but Square did gave a fair shot at Tomb Raider and Deus Ex at one point but despite selling 50m copies all told the profits were fairly thin it seems. Common wisdom is to blame Square's unattainable goals but there's maybe some issues within Eidos & co as an operation too.
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« Reply #30170 on: May 02, 2022, 01:01:07 PM »
I feel like the Eidos stuff released under SE was always put on a massive discount soon after launch. So it doesn't surprise me if they had high sales numbers but low profits.
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« Reply #30171 on: May 02, 2022, 01:10:23 PM »
I think the Tomb Raider reboot (and the spinoff games) and the Deus Ex one brought back those series into some mainstream relevance and up into the "AAA space" but yeah it seems the business model never quite worked as well as intended.
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« Reply #30172 on: May 02, 2022, 01:29:08 PM »
The Western Side of Square Enix has been a whole lot of nothing for years now. Not sad to see this happen.

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« Reply #30173 on: May 02, 2022, 01:31:28 PM »
Huh, maybe Legacy of Kane isn't as absolutely dead as I thought...

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #30174 on: May 02, 2022, 01:34:22 PM »
What is a "big budget" Fortnite chasing Crazy Taxi supposed to look like exactly?

Competitive online free for all plus a bunch of driver skins ?
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« Reply #30175 on: May 02, 2022, 01:37:08 PM »
What is a "big budget" Fortnite chasing Crazy Taxi supposed to look like exactly?

Competitive online free for all plus a bunch of driver skins ?
Makes me think JSR will be an NFT grafitti filled GAASy mess.

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« Reply #30176 on: May 02, 2022, 01:40:09 PM »
I mean the management reportedly sucked & all that but Square did gave a fair shot at Tomb Raider and Deus Ex at one point but despite selling 50m copies all told the profits were fairly thin it seems. Common wisdom is to blame Square's unattainable goals but there's maybe some issues within Eidos & co as an operation too.

From what I heard (on a bombcast many years ago) was that square were hoping Tomb Raider (and other stuff like Sleeping Dogs) would sell so well that it would offset the losses from the Japanese side while they were shitting the bed during the PS3 era. It ended up selling over 14m copies but I imagine the vast majority were from sales over the years. I think at most other pubs those games will hold be considered a huge success.
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« Reply #30177 on: May 02, 2022, 01:50:20 PM »
Tomb Raider did well but Square thought it was going to be massive. Basically a Call of Duty tentpole type franchise. Almost nothing "Eidos" could produce could meet expectations because the expectations were always absurd. Sleeping Dogs is a great example, it did really well, but they weren't interested in a sequel because they were thinking GTA numbers rather than something more achievable like Saints Row.

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« Reply #30178 on: May 02, 2022, 02:07:55 PM »
I mean the management reportedly sucked & all that but Square did gave a fair shot at Tomb Raider and Deus Ex at one point but despite selling 50m copies all told the profits were fairly thin it seems. Common wisdom is to blame Square's unattainable goals but there's maybe some issues within Eidos & co as an operation too.
Do not forget that it takes a lot of work and support staff to keep an overseas studios properly running and staffed too.
In terms of HR, art, QA and IT support Embracer has a large number of studios and a lot of resources, Square Enix not so much.
Nixxes being bought by Sony probably also hurt their ability to develop for PC as Nixxes was doing all the heavy lifting for the Eidos group in terms of PC ports.

They were moving to a new engine so at best the next Tomb Raider would be ready 2 to 3 years from now but as we know from Microsoft Studios and others setbacks mean a game takes 4 to 6 years to ship.


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« Reply #30179 on: May 02, 2022, 02:47:22 PM »
Hadn't the original FF14 just stank out the industry not long before Tomb Raider and Sleepy Dogs :doge
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