SONY KILLED MY PS3 BUT IT RESURRECTED ITSELF.

[archie4208]

Hey, wouldn't this effect game development too?

Debug units unworkable due to endlessly looping error message

Various developers and studios are claiming that their debug PS3 units are failing from suspected internal-clock-related hardware errors.

A multitude of debug consoles – crucial to the development of current PS3 projects – have been thrown into a rebooting cycle, due to an endlessly-looping error message.

http://www.develop-online.net/news/33995/Now-developers-PS3s-are-hit-by-system-errors

It just means they will have more time to work on 360 games. 

[ManaByte]

So how does Sony intend to fix a hardware issue over the internet when the console itself can't connect? hmmmmm

It's not just a borked firmware.

Wait, so there's no way to correct to get a new system update?

It's not a firmware bug. It's a problem with the system clock on the old non-slim models. They cannot connect to PSN for updates, so even if Sony pushed a firmware update out there would be no way for people to download it to their system.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

PLAYSTATION3 ADMITS DEFEAT – INITIATES GLOBAL SELF-DESTRUCT ORDER “8001050F”

[Purple Filth]

well the clock is the culprit here so we'll see if it aligns itself in the next 5 or so hours

or everyone will have to learn to remove the cmos battery in the thing  

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I want a "Hitler gets mad at PS3 bug" video

Learn to google.pl

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

[Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich]

It's not a firmware bug. It's a problem with the system clock on the old non-slim models. They cannot connect to PSN for updates, so even if Sony pushed a firmware update out there would be no way for people to download it to their system.

Just as an FYI you can actually download and system updates off a USB drive; that's how I usually update since the PSN server's always slow as hell.

Of course I don't trust the average PS3 consumer to even understand how to do this.

[ManaByte]

PLAYSTATION3 ADMITS DEFEAT – INITIATES GLOBAL SELF-DESTRUCT ORDER “8001050F”

(Image removed from quote.)

http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/

I want a "Hitler gets mad at PS3 bug" video

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

[Mr. Gundam]

It's not a firmware bug. It's a problem with the system clock on the old non-slim models. They cannot connect to PSN for updates, so even if Sony pushed a firmware update out there would be no way for people to download it to their system.

Just as an FYI you can actually download and system updates off a USB drive; that's how I usually update since the PSN server's always slow as hell.

Of course I don't trust the average PS3 consumer to even understand how to do this.

You can actually still connect to the internet on the PS3 and check for updates. You can't connect to the Playstation Network which is separate.

Still doesn't justify this massive screw up on Sony's part.

[dark1x]

So how does Sony intend to fix a hardware issue over the internet when the console itself can't connect? hmmmmm

It's not just a borked firmware.

Wait, so there's no way to correct to get a new system update?

It's not a firmware bug. It's a problem with the system clock on the old non-slim models. They cannot connect to PSN for updates, so even if Sony pushed a firmware update out there would be no way for people to download it to their system.

I don't think that's true, actually.  Updates to games still work.  You can still download patches and, I assume, firmware updates.  I don't think it IS the firmware, but people could still download updates if they needed to.

There is still some connectivity!

[The Innocent X]

GAF fanbois are very confident this will all go away at 12.

Epic lolz if not. Recall anyone?

[Mr. Gundam]

GAF fanbois are very confident this will all go away at 12.

Epic lolz if not. Recall anyone?

There better be a recall or some sort of financial compensation if things aren't fixed at 12:00 GMT (7pm EST/4pm PST)... 

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Glad I beat Heavy Rain before this all went down. Powergaming pays rich dividends once again.

[ManaByte]

GAF fanbois are very confident this will all go away at 12.

Epic lolz if not. Recall anyone?

There better be a recall or some sort of financial compensation if things aren't fixed at 12:00 GMT (7pm EST/4pm PST)... 

Financial compensation

[Bebpo]

GAF fanbois are very confident this will all go away at 12.

Epic lolz if not. Recall anyone?

There better be a recall or some sort of financial compensation if things aren't fixed at 12:00 GMT (7pm EST/4pm PST)... 

They can send everyone free PS3 Slims!

[Mr. Gundam]

GAF fanbois are very confident this will all go away at 12.

Epic lolz if not. Recall anyone?

There better be a recall or some sort of financial compensation if things aren't fixed at 12:00 GMT (7pm EST/4pm PST)... 

Financial compensation

They better do something.

[ManaByte]

GAF fanbois are very confident this will all go away at 12.

Epic lolz if not. Recall anyone?

There better be a recall or some sort of financial compensation if things aren't fixed at 12:00 GMT (7pm EST/4pm PST)... 

Financial compensation

They better do something.

They'll say "So sorry, please buy God of War III NOW IN STORES!"

[The Innocent X]

This is an non-issue as replacing the CMOS battery already fixes this.

So we can now laugh from it:

Replacing the battery requires a recall for most.

Resetting the clock is not the same as what happens at midnight. We don't know what happens at midnight yet, but it sure isn't the clock resetting. It may fix the problem, it may not.

[Purple Filth]

GAF fanbois are very confident this will all go away at 12.

Epic lolz if not. Recall anyone?

There better be a recall or some sort of financial compensation if things aren't fixed at 12:00 GMT (7pm EST/4pm PST)... 

Financial compensation

They better do something.

The most they may do is allow you to send in your Ps3 free so they can do the cmos fix  

then give you a shit game like flow or PAIN

[Bebpo]

Now I can go on HOME and enjoy the rich content and compelling environments without someone doing the running man.

You're picking the wrong forum to induce jealousy.  
Nobody here cares if their PS3 works.  Nobody here plays PS3!  
/except Mr. Gundam because he doesn't have a X360 as well  :'(

[Purple Filth]

Sony is separating the wheat from the chaff by forcing the plebs to sit in a corner sobbing while us elites enjoy some quality gaming. This is Living.

Wrong forum man 

[Mr. Gundam]

Now I can go on HOME and enjoy the rich content and compelling environments without someone doing the running man.

You're picking the wrong forum to induce jealousy.  
Nobody here cares if their PS3 works.  Nobody here plays PS3!  
/except Mr. Gundam because he doesn't have a X360 as well  :'(

I will gladly join the 360 team if someone sends me one. I chose my system for this generation. I made my bed and have to lie in it. No hatred towards Microsoft or anything, I just can't justify buying another console, even if it has tons of stuff I'd like to play. I already buy enough stuff as it is, having another system to buy tons of games for would just cause arguments at home.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

So ... right when Heavy Rain, Final Fantasy XIII, and God of War III come out, early adopters' PS3s break down, and anyone who wants to play those games immediately now has to go buy a Slim.

Isn't that a bit ... convenient?

[Raban]

I want a "Hitler gets mad at PS3 bug" video

Learn to google.pl

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Rip her heart out like Mola Ram

[maxy]

It's all part of Sony master plan,force users to upgrade so they can brag about shipped numbers.

No matter how this ends,fat PS3 image is irreversibly tarnished...fat,old,refuses to work sometimes

[ManaByte]

Well the gist is that the ARM SYSCON CPU that is used to power up the front panel of the ps3, that is responsible for doing things like sleep mode, eject, RTC etc. Is an old batch that sony picked up from the shelf like other manufacturers that has that calendar year bug regarding feburary 29th on certain periods. Causing the ps3 system clock and the real time clock to desync, messing up security measures like Digital Rights management software and sometimes games that relies on clocks for whatever reason. As well as signing up to the playstation network... This CPU is always on even when your PS3 isn't plugged
This problem is also happening with various of test Ps3 models, particulary the ones that has the emotion engine cpu/gpu for ps2 dev.

The Slims ps3s aren't affected because they use a newer up to date revision on the syscon cpu that fixes this bug.

A quick way to fix this is to remove the RTC battery for at least 5-10 min and plug it back in, you will see the date and time reset, and voila...

BTW all this was quoted from some ps3 hardware gurus and tested by various of peeps on efnet, all thanks to them for the information

One cannot wait to hear Sony's excuse for this one, They might play innocent for using off the shelve parts and blame manufacturers

[ManaByte]

Oh god the Sbot's desperate cries of "bububububububu RROD!" are getting pathetic.

[The Innocent X]

In all seriousness this will probably be fixed soon. I'm riding along the laugh train with the rest of you but it seems pretty likely this issue will either fix itself once the day rolls by (i.e. the system no longer believes its the 29th) or Sony will put out some sort of patch-fix.

I'm far more interested in what kind of apology Sony will put forth.

From what was posted earlier in the day the clock can't be written to for security reasons, so either it fixes itself at midnight (entirely possible) or Sony has to figure a way to update the clock manually. People have said that it can't be done via firmware

[cool breeze]

So ... right when Heavy Rain, Final Fantasy XIII, and God of War III come out, early adopters' PS3s break down, and anyone who wants to play those games immediately now has to go buy a Slim.

Isn't that a bit ... convenient?

almost as convenient as 360s getting ruined before Modern Warfare 2 

[ManaByte]

So ... right when Heavy Rain, Final Fantasy XIII, and God of War III come out, early adopters' PS3s break down, and anyone who wants to play those games immediately now has to go buy a Slim.

Isn't that a bit ... convenient?

almost as convenient as 360s getting ruined before Modern Warfare 2 

There weren't any 360s being ruined.

There were pirates being fucked over.

[cool breeze]

whoooooosh

[The Innocent X]

#6198
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Originally Posted by SONY EU Community Forum:
All,

Please note that I am now out of the office until 10AM tomorrow morning.

I'm concerned that some of you are considering removing the internal battery from your PlayStation 3 system. Please do not do this -you risk damaging your console and voiding your warranty, both of which really are not worth it for the sake of a few hours.

Our previous advice still stands: We hope to have the problem solved within 24 hours (about 21 now, if you've been counting ) and you should avoid using your console until then.

I have given my phone number out to everyone who will be "in the know" about further updates on this issue. Our teams across SCE are working flat-out to fix the problem for you. Should anything come through, either myself or one of the moderators on shift tonight will post the update for you.

I'll also be jumping on and checking PSN tonight from midnight with my own console, just in case I'll let you know the results.

As an aside - thank you all for your patience today. I appreciate that it has been frustrating and I am thankful to all of you for keeping the forum tidy and insult free!

Much love to all - MB

even eu support have thier fingers crossed

[Howard Alan Treesong]

RRoD means your system is out of commission for weeks as it goes through the coffin-and-return. It also impacted the 360 for years and years of manufacturing.

This is, what, 24 hours and it'll be cleared up? It's hilarious and ridiculous and incompetent and and all of that, for sure, but it's not as bad as - or God forfend, worse than - the RRoD. Let's be real, here.

[maxy]

So ... right when Heavy Rain, Final Fantasy XIII, and God of War III come out, early adopters' PS3s break down, and anyone who wants to play those games immediately now has to go buy a Slim.

Isn't that a bit ... convenient?

almost as convenient as 360s getting ruined before Modern Warfare 2 

There weren't any 360s being ruined.

There were stupid pirates being fucked over.

Fixed

[M3wThr33]

Are people really freaking out this much? If it's related to a time bug, it'll be the GMT that it is all calculated from.
PST is GMT-8, so that's why they are saying wait until 4 PM, where it'll be March 2nd at GMT +/- 0 and no longer affected.

[ManaByte]

Are people really freaking out this much? If it's related to a time bug, it'll be the GMT that it is all calculated from.
PST is GMT-8, so that's why they are saying wait until 4 PM, where it'll be March 2nd at GMT +/- 0 and no longer affected.

It's a hardware bug in the off-the-shelf CPU Sony used for some minor features of the PS3.

[Flannel Boy]

I haven't turned my PS3 on for a couple of weeks.

[M3wThr33]

Are people really freaking out this much? If it's related to a time bug, it'll be the GMT that it is all calculated from.
PST is GMT-8, so that's why they are saying wait until 4 PM, where it'll be March 2nd at GMT +/- 0 and no longer affected.

It's a hardware bug in the off-the-shelf CPU Sony used for some minor features of the PS3.

I figured that much. It's conflicting with the time calculation elsewhere in the system, hence the date reset.

Although this brings up a good question, when was the last PS3 firmware update? We're ridiculously overdue...

[cool breeze]

just noticed that MLB The Show 2010 is out tomorrow too

If I didn't get The Show 09, I'd be pretty furious right about now.  Best baseball game series.

[M3wThr33]

It should be pretty soon as there have been some minor rumblings from dev studios talking about recent changes. But there haven't been any leaked changelists.
(Sony doesn't list the non-game related changelist to devs anyway)

[Brehvolution]

just noticed that MLB The Show 2010 is out tomorrow too

If I didn't get The Show 09, I'd be pretty furious right about now.  Best baseball game series.

If I can't play tomorrow there will be hell to pay!!!!!1

[Mupepe]

[cool breeze]

someone made an encino man gif...

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

So when exactly can I turn my PS3 again?  Do I need to do anything with my flux capacitor?  Still 1.21 gigawatts, right?

[dark1x]

Man, this is quite possibly the fastest growing thread in the history of this forum! 

I guess people DO care about the PS3 after all!
 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

I didn't spend 500 bucks for a DVD player, so yeah I care.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

It's a DVD playin' monster machine.

We watched Extract on it last night.

[pilonv1]

So ... right when Heavy Rain, Final Fantasy XIII, and God of War III come out, early adopters' PS3s break down, and anyone who wants to play those games immediately now has to go buy a Slim.

Isn't that a bit ... convenient?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_timer

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

All I know is that is better be fixed by the time GOW3 comes out (which is when, 14th? 15th?).  If not I'm going to shoot up a Luby's Cafeteria or a Ponderosa Steakhouse.....undecided about that one.

[M3wThr33]

So when exactly can I turn my PS3 again?  Do I need to do anything with my flux capacitor?  Still 1.21 gigawatts, right?

Less then an hour, hopefully.

[Mr. Gundam]

My PS3 is back to normal.

I still want Sony to apologize officially. 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

All is right in the world again.

Now I can continue to hate WKC at my leisure.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

lol everybody is popping online. 

I haven't seen this many people on my friends list online since...well, ever.

[FatalT]

My PS3 is back to normal now too. Time to get back into MAG!

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

My PS3 is back to normal now too. Time to get back into MAG!

lol

[cool breeze]

cool

I don't have much of a reason to turn it on yet, but nice that it's fixed.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

See y'all in Home.  I'll be in the Uncharted bar talking strategery.

[Mr. Gundam]

Back to Star Ocean 4... yeah!! uh, yeah?

 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Back to Star Ocean 4... yeah!! uh, yeah?

 

God damnit.  Import Vesperia fool.

[The Sceneman]

Im pretty disappointed by this being fixed so fast, I had a whole arsenal of xfag FUD to spread all over blogs and stuff

[pilonv1]

what a boring resolution