Random talk thread: It just keeps happening

[etiolate]

I am an old man who doesn't understand the current 16-21 year old generation of nerds. What I don't really get is how they're all so in love with themselves and each other.

I don't get the popularity of fanfiction and slash-fiction. Why not write your own story? Your own world? Your own vision? Your own style? Why play dolls with other people's work?

I don't get Minecraft popularity. I don't get playing endless mods that look moderately entertaining. I totally do not get the popularity of youtubers or twitch. Why watch someone else play a game? Games aren't a passive medium. You're supposed to be playing them. I last about 3 minutes watching someone else play a game before I get frustrated and would rather be playing the game myself. Most of the youtubers and twitchers are really bad at games, but that seems to sell even better to the generation.

It just seems like there's a real void of creativity or talent. Everyone is praised for using other people's work or simply just turning on a game and streaming it. Bonus points if you act like a jackass.

OLD MAN DOES NOT GET IT.

[chronovore]

Are we talking about millenials? I don't even know where to split Gen X from Gen Y, so I'm doubly lost with millenials.

[Rufus]

Nor should you bother to. It's the same old "corrupted youth" nonsense that every generation gets to hear. It's easier to look down on the younguns for not having any gumption or whatever than it is to admit that the older generations are responsible for a lot of the circumstance the younger generations deal with.

[StealthFan]

Gen Y isn't millenials?

And yeah fanfiction and mods have been around forever.

[Your Stalker]

that shit has been around since i started reading gaming forums back in the late 90s and likely longer than that etoilet

[chronovore]

Nor should you bother to. It's the same old "corrupted youth" nonsense that every generation gets to hear. It's easier to look down on the younguns for not having any gumption or whatever than it is to admit that the older generations are responsible for a lot of the circumstance the younger generations deal with.

Agreed; I mean, we can give a lot of crap to the current crop of young people for their "helicopter parents" and there are peanut gallery comments from both sides about the "feminization of males," as well as the "toxicity of traditional male emotional management"... My generation was accused of being mollycoddled because we were discouraged from overhead swings with 2x4s with rusty nails when used as playground toys.

[Himu]

All of those things just show how much of a bubble Et-san is in, in terms of nerd culture and especially on the fan fiction. fan fiction has existed for years.

[Great Rumbler]

I don't get the popularity of fanfiction and slash-fiction. Why not write your own story? Your own world? Your own vision? Your own style? Why play dolls with other people's work?

Paula Smith wrote A Trekkie's Tale about Lt. Mary Sue to make fun of Star Trek fanfiction all the way back in 1973.

[etiolate]

Your old fucking ass pretending teens / early 20somethings popularized or created fanfic, gameplay vids or mods . Pull your head out of your ass

Why do you talk when you only say wrong things. Those things existed, but they were certainly mainstreamed as of recently. Twitch is #4 in web traffic. It's higher than facebook and facebook probably has more people actually playing games.

edit: JESUS FUCK HOW CAN YOU ALL NOT READ

I never said fan fiction didn't exist. The differences are that fanfiction and slash fiction has encroached upon the actual works due to just the massiveness allowed to fanfiction via the internet. My point was these things became mainstreamed and a part of the standard. If you want to redeem your damned generation then maybe start with learning how to critically read. You don't want to all end up like Mandark, constantly opening your yap at me and getting owned via misrepresentation.

Wait wait wait

You don't even realize that happens. My bad.

 

[etiolate]

Are we talking about millenials? I don't even know where to split Gen X from Gen Y, so I'm doubly lost with millenials.

I always heard 1979 or 1980 is the birth line split of Gen X and Gen Y.

[StealthFan]

I wrote Jagged Alliance 2 fanfiction when I was 12

[Raban]

Nor should you bother to. It's the same old "corrupted youth" nonsense that every generation gets to hear. It's easier to look down on the younguns for not having any gumption or whatever than it is to admit that the older generations are responsible for a lot of the circumstance the younger generations deal with.

and with this post, you are now anointed* my favorite poster of the bore

*oil rubdown pending

[Shadow Mod]

All I know is people my age and older were watching the fuck out of AVGN years ago so like what...

[Phoenix Dark]

People give a shit about fanfic? 

I've glided through life without stumbling across any of that shit. Apparently there's a huge Harry Potter fanfic universe, I had no idea it existed until last year.

[Himu]

Avgn is most popular with people I know who are 30+. Bubu Gen y.

[Rufus]

Isn't Fifty Shades of Grey basically fanfiction? I never actually looked into it, but I've heard it described as that. I assume the author asked for permission, or changed names around? Either way, that would be a pretty mainstream example. I'm sure there are more. I'd kinda sorta count Sherlock Holmes as well, though it's really just the names and a handful of other factoids that are shared.

Also, every story based on ancient myths and religious texts are fan-fiction to some extent. What I'm saying is, people have always modified and re-interpreted culture. It seems to be an innate desire to appropriate the things we like, to modify and add to them.
I suspect that's part of why Minecraft is as popular. You're the god-king of your own universe in those kinds of games and the plethora of mods just adds to your toolbox. And if you get bored of building and spelunking there are mods that turn it into a more structured, competitive game as well. The same thing happens in Garry's Mod.

and with this post, you are now anointed* my favorite poster of the bore

*oil rubdown pending

[Himu]

Fan fiction is widespread. It isn't a niche thing. Those Star Wars EU books you posted the other day are fan fiction.

[T234]

Mescaline >>> LSD, Mushrooms, MDMA >>> Ketamine, 2CB

The time dilation was unfathomable. Time STOPPED. Music felt like the softest fucking velvet ever wrapping my soul. Runaway euphoria that was way stronger than on MDMA or Coke. I ate a bag of cheetos and had to lay down and writhe in ecstasy from how awesome the taste was.




I have a new love and her name is Queen Phenethylamine.


Goddamn shame it is so rare, expensive, and misrepresented. I had seen over two dozen things sold as Mescaline up until this point, not a one of them were really Mescaline. But I now see why old people love it so much.   

[Mandark]

You don't want to all end up like Mandark, constantly opening your yap at me and getting owned via misrepresentation.

 

[CatsCatsCats]

Mescaline >>> LSD, Mushrooms, MDMA >>> Ketamine, 2CB

The time dilation was unfathomable. Time STOPPED. Music felt like the softest fucking velvet ever wrapping my soul. Runaway euphoria that was way stronger than on MDMA or Coke. I ate a bag of cheetos and had to lay down and writhe in ecstasy from how awesome the taste was.




I have a new love and her name is Queen Phenethylamine.


Goddamn shame it is so rare, expensive, and misrepresented. I had seen over two dozen things sold as Mescaline up until this point, not a one of them were really Mescaline. But I now see why old people love it so much.

Can't ya just get a San Pedro and clone it a few times, breh?

[T234]

Yep. I was talking specifically about buying it.

[brob]

The Cthulhu mythos is basically 99% fan fiction at this point.

fan fiction about jesus was so vast it spawned the very concept of canon

[StealthFan]

The Cthulhu mythos is basically 99% fan fiction at this point.

Pretty much.

[CatsCatsCats]

Portland finally gettin some snow today!

[Himu]

The Cthulhu mythos is basically 99% fan fiction at this point.

fan fiction about jesus was so vast it spawned the very concept of canon

The Quran was bible fanfiction.

the new testament is old testament fan fiction

[Joe Molotov]

The Cthulhu mythos is basically 99% fan fiction at this point.

Lovecraft wrote Harry Houdini fanfic.

[Himu]

The Cthulhu mythos is basically 99% fan fiction at this point.

fan fiction about jesus was so vast it spawned the very concept of canon

The Quran was bible fanfiction.

the new testament is old testament fan fiction

The Old Testament is real life fan fiction.

[bork]

Found $8 at the station this morning, so I blew it on some nasty fast-food.

Me: "Number two combo, no mayo or sau--

Register lady: "WHAT SIZE DO YOU WANT?"

Me: "...medium."

This was at a small Checkers in the food court below the office.  You can see them making everything while you wait.  I watched the food prep lady slather the burger in whatever weird sauce it has.

Me: "Sorry, I said no mayo."

Register lady: (scowls and looks incredibly pissed off all of a sudden) "YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT.  I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SAY THAT."

Me: "I said no mayo or sauce."


Register lady: (speaks in Spanish to the food prep lady) "...THERE'S NO SAUCE ON THAT."  (Hands me back the burger)

Me: "I just watched her put sauce all over it."

Register lady: "NO SHE DIDN'T!"

Me: "...."

Awkward silence, more Spanish being spoken.

The register lady very angrily slams the hamburger into the trash, mutters something, and then the food prep lady makes another hamburger -totally plain- and throws the bag on the counter.  The register lady continues to look quite upset.

...WHY?

  

Shit sucked, too. 

[Mupepe]

I have to ask, why no mayo or sauce??  that's the only way it's enjoyable!

[bork]

I have to ask, why no mayo or sauce??  that's the only way it's enjoyable!

Can't stand mayo or anything "mayo-like".  The smell and taste makes me queasy.

[Mr. Gundam]

Portland finally gettin some snow today!

It's in the high teens, low twenties here, but no snow in Seattle and just a super light dusting at work.

[Eric P]

The Cthulhu mythos is basically 99% fan fiction at this point.

Lovecraft wrote Harry Houdini fanfic.

not quite accurate

Lovecraft was hired by the weird tales editor to take Houdini's tale and turn it into an actual story to run in Weird Tales.

He was actually ghosting for Houdini.

[Joe Molotov]

The Cthulhu mythos is basically 99% fan fiction at this point.

Lovecraft wrote Harry Houdini fanfic.

not quite accurate

Lovecraft was hired by the weird tales editor to take Houdini's tale and turn it into an actual story to run in Weird Tales.

He was actually ghosting for Houdini.

Yeah, but it's less funny when you say it like that.

[CatsCatsCats]

Been sledding on an old school sled today with the kid, so much fun

[Shadow Mod]

Everything closed super early shiet. 

[Eric P]

The Cthulhu mythos is basically 99% fan fiction at this point.

Lovecraft wrote Harry Houdini fanfic.

Lovecraft was hired by the weird tales editor to take Houdini's tale and turn it into an actual story to run in Weird Tales.

He was actually ghosting for Houdini.

Yeah, but it's less funny when you say it like that.

well if anything lovecraft was doing Lord Dunsany fanfic and EA Poe fanfic if that makes you feel better

[Great Rumbler]

Disney movies are Hans Christian Anderson and Brothers Grimm fanfic.

[Van Cruncheon]

making love is just rape fanfic 

[Van Cruncheon]

No sympathy for a grown ass man getting abused by his wife.

In all honesty, that's sexist -- unless you also have no sympathy for women who are abused by their husbands.

True, the gender roles would more commonly feature the male as abuser and female as codependent victim, but that's not the only pattern which presents in this type of relationship.

To take it one step further, if G's fiancée (whom he insists on calling "wife," as if to cement the relationship artificially) were institutionalized for her illness, would any of the caregiving physicians or nurses at the facility accept fry-pan abuse as an acceptable means to cure her? Would they allow themselves to be hit at all? No.

To me, G's willingness to accept this behavior from her not only delays his fiancée's treatment, but also speaks to the denial G harbors toward his own mental health.

I have sympathy for women being abused by men, however I have none for men who are physically abused by women. I suppose that is sexist. I'm not suggesting that G or any man should violently defend himself (unless his life is being threatened of course). But the idea of a man allowing his wife or girlfriend to throw frying pans at him, lock him out of his own house, slap him in the face, demean him to his face, etc...I can't respect that.

Ultimately G's willingness to accept this behavior strikes me more as him feeling he can't find anyone else who will accept him - be it due to his weight or something else. G is smart, funny, and pretty loving based on his willingness to help multiple EBers. Why he stays with a vindictive, ugly person who mentally and physically abuses him is beyond me.

dude, we have no idea how much of his spiels are complete and utter contrivance. half to all of it could be just some bizarre dominance/victim fantasy.

[Madrun Badrun]

Why do highschoolers still read To Kill a Mocking Bird when they can just watch the 21st century version in A Time to Kill? What a good movie.

[Positive Touch]

just ate a nice tutto mare and had a super tuscan. delicious. probably gonna play vidya for the rest of the night

:krs FROM WHERE

[Joe Molotov]

Why do highschoolers still read To Kill a Mocking Bird when they can just watch the 21st century version in A Time to Kill? What a good movie.

I'm such a huge Harper Lee fan, I've read all her books!

[Madrun Badrun]

I've read all her books twice, but watched A time to kill half a dozen times. 

[bork]

Off to a great start this morning.  Go to get on the train (the door was right in front of me) and this lady runs up from the right, cutting in front of everyone.  She pushes me to get on and then gets a look of absolute shock when I get agitated and say "...so fuckin' rude!" as she rushes to a seat.  I then hear another woman respond with "he's no gentleman!"

How am I the asshole here? 

[chronovore]

Your mistake is in accepting her qualifications as a judge.

[CatsCatsCats]

The cleansing rain should wash away the snow today, it was fun but I'm happy to see normal functionality again in my city!

[bork]

Off to a great start this morning.  Go to get on the train (the door was right in front of me) and this lady runs up from the right, cutting in front of everyone.  She pushes me to get on and then gets a look of absolute shock when I get agitated and say "...so fuckin' rude!" as she rushes to a seat.  I then hear another woman respond with "he's no gentleman!"

How am I the asshole here?

This morning I'm standing there, minding my own business, and that same lady comes walking over and says "please don't be rude to me and bump me agai--" I cut her off and said "YOU pushed me!  I do apologize for using foul language, but you pushed me."  There's that same wide-eyed look of shock, then the "lady" walks off throwing up a "talk to the hand" gesture.  At least this time she went and waited somewhere else.  In fact, nobody was standing around where I was.  Did my use of the word "fuck" seriously scare off people from waiting there again?  That's oddly hilarious.

This whole incident reminds me of a Seinfeld episode.  Someone else said the same thing when I was talking about it at work this morning.   
 

[G The Resurrected]

Today is my exit interview, I have mixed feelings about the last year of work and I don't know how to feel. I don't want to piss anyone off, but I'm really frustrated with what happened that lead to this. It's out of my hands now which is a good thing I guess. Now I have no excuses to not work on going back to school.

[Phoenix Dark]

Is youtube working like shit for anyone else? I can barely watch anything without buffers and constant picture quality drops. Youtube has often been crappy but not to this level.

[Pringo]

Is youtube working like shit for anyone else? I can barely watch anything without buffers and constant picture quality drops. Youtube has often been crappy but not to this level.

Try this out: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/114002

It made YouTube usable again for me. Disable dash playback to get rid of the buffering problems.

[Phoenix Dark]

no change, every video gets stuck after a few seconds; I have to pause for it to work. I've turned off hardware acceleration to no avail too.

[Pringo]

no change, every video gets stuck after a few seconds; I have to pause for it to work. I've turned off hardware acceleration to no avail too.

Did you uncheck DASH playback for both the player and external player? That should fix the issue where the buffering stops part way through a video and you can't skip around without it having to reload everything.

If you're experiencing just overall slowness I don't think there's much you can do aside from choosing the lowest quality video setting.

[Shadow Mod]

Is youtube working like shit for anyone else? I can barely watch anything without buffers and constant picture quality drops. Youtube has often been crappy but not to this level.

Youtube is absolute shit on my phone.

[Phoenix Dark]

no change, every video gets stuck after a few seconds; I have to pause for it to work. I've turned off hardware acceleration to no avail too.

Did you uncheck DASH playback for both the player and external player? That should fix the issue where the buffering stops part way through a video and you can't skip around without it having to reload everything.

If you're experiencing just overall slowness I don't think there's much you can do aside from choosing the lowest quality video setting.

did both and saw no change initially as I said, however a couple hours later youtube seems to be working better.

[chronovore]

Perhaps there was a disturbance in the googlesphere?

[G The Resurrected]

I AM FREE!!!

[Rufus]

Of what?

[G The Resurrected]

Free of my contract and some super oppressive bullshit with my previous employer/partner.

[Rufus]

Oh. Well, congrats then.

[G The Resurrected]

Thanks, now I gotta figure out what I want to do. Go back to school and do things right. Or do I just try and do what I did before but with some new better partners. Thank god for CA's noncompete clause and my contract, I was lucky to just back away at the right time.