Author Topic: BioShock Infinite (Burial at Sea - Episode One) (Read 84147 times)

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #180 on:** March 21, 2013, 10:28:48 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 21, 2013, 09:40:25 PM

The budget for this game is apparently $200 million. Welp.

How... how many fucking copies would they need to sell to break even? I don't even wanna think about it

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #181 on:** March 21, 2013, 10:31:03 PM »

Gonna have to sell alot of those Super Ultimate Fucking Mockingjay Collector's Editions.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #182 on:** March 21, 2013, 10:55:16 PM »

every time i hear about budget creep I think of Macbeth's 'I am in blood stepped in so far that should I wade no more, Returning were as tedious as go o’er.'

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #183 on:** March 21, 2013, 10:59:34 PM »

The market has changed so much since the original came out. That game came out a few months before Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4. Think how different everything is now. I don't think that's a good sign for them sales wise. As of 2010 the original had sold 4 million across all platforms.

I think critically the game will be exceptionally well received. That part seems automatic. Its the part where they took so long to build a fps game that doesn't have an MP portion and I assume isn't ostensibly open world which helps pad gameplay time.

Which is of course all a separate discussion from said quality of game.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #184 on:** March 21, 2013, 11:00:57 PM »

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on March 21, 2013, 10:28:48 PM

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 21, 2013, 09:40:25 PM
The budget for this game is apparently $200 million. Welp.

How... how many fucking copies would they need to sell to break even? I don't even wanna think about it

3.3 million, assuming that the publisher gets 100% of every $60 game sold [hint: it's not nearly that high].

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #185 on:** March 21, 2013, 11:11:51 PM »

Now we know why they're giving away handfuls of other games with Bioshock Infinite preorders

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #186 on:** March 22, 2013, 01:44:57 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on March 21, 2013, 07:57:14 PM

i tried to play OG Bioshock again recently and tapped out pretty early. The atmosphere is great if you're in the mood for it but comically grimdark if not. An odd thing happens when 'realistic' graphics age: they start to look absurd and lose all verisimilitude. So the little sisters and such just look like ridiculous little 3D puppets to me now

Did you find parts of Bioshock scary? Few people think of Bioshock as scary but it's actually just as freaky as Silent Hill. You walk along in a dead city full of crazies and traps around every corner.

I remember just exploring around and suddenly turning to find an ugly ass splicer. Made my skin tingled. Probably scarier cuz I was using headphones.

What kills the excitement a bit is knowing that you'll always resurrect. They fixed that in a patch but the game should have shipped with no resurrection.

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 21, 2013, 10:49:48 PM

to be fair, only $100 million is the development budget. the other $100 million is the marketing budget to try to make some of that stupid budget back somehow.

That's a lot of marketing for a non-bro game

Himu · « **Reply #187 on:** March 22, 2013, 01:50:09 AM »

In true Bioshock tradition how linear/boring is this game and should I just replay system shock 2 instead

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #188 on:** March 22, 2013, 02:07:13 AM »

That budget is ludicrous and I think I know who's responsible

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #189 on:** March 22, 2013, 03:02:46 AM »

Len Kevine?

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #190 on:** March 22, 2013, 03:40:58 AM »

Men Ravine

chronovore · « **Reply #191 on:** March 22, 2013, 04:54:54 AM »

Budget Leavening.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #192 on:** March 22, 2013, 07:25:32 AM »

he's gonna be the villain in the next bioshock

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #193 on:** March 22, 2013, 10:48:20 AM »

A Bioshock: Infinite review from Chris Avellone:

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Brehvolution · « **Reply #194 on:** March 22, 2013, 10:53:08 AM »

Himu · « **Reply #195 on:** March 22, 2013, 11:05:35 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 22, 2013, 10:48:20 AM

A Bioshock: Infinite review from Chris Avellone:

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Gross

Steve Contra · « **Reply #196 on:** March 22, 2013, 11:25:03 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 21, 2013, 09:40:25 PM

The budget for this game is apparently $200 million. Welp.

It's like that Star Wars game that no one really wanted.

magus · « **Reply #197 on:** March 22, 2013, 11:25:19 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 22, 2013, 10:48:20 AM

A Bioshock: Infinite review from Chris Avellone:

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bioshock infinite will destroy your pelvis and make you scream in pain?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #198 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:37:56 AM »

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In 1999 mode players will pick their specialization at the beginning of the game. From there on they'll be committed to a certain set of skills and powers. Decisions are permanent. Skills chosen are permanent. Even death is permanent, If you don't have the resources necessary to be brought back to life, it's game over for you, and with more demanding weapon, health, and power management, players can expect to see that screen on a fairly regular basis. Just like the good old days.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #199 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:46:12 AM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 22, 2013, 11:05:35 AM

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 22, 2013, 10:48:20 AM
A Bioshock: Infinite review from Chris Avellone:

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spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Gross

Jealous?

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #200 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:48:48 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 21, 2013, 11:00:57 PM

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on March 21, 2013, 10:28:48 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 21, 2013, 09:40:25 PM
The budget for this game is apparently $200 million. Welp.

How... how many fucking copies would they need to sell to break even? I don't even wanna think about it

3.3 million, assuming that the publisher gets 100% of every $60 game sold [hint: it's not nearly that high].

If it's roughly 80% (what it was back in the day when I worked at GS) then they'd need to sell about 4.2 million copies. At $60. For fucks fucking sakes.

Rufus · « **Reply #201 on:** March 23, 2013, 01:35:58 PM »

Yeah, about those 200$m...

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Just how much did Columbia cost? The studio is predictably keeping quiet on the shooter’s overall budget, but a New York Times article mentions some analyst estimates put it around $200 million. Creative Director Ken Levine responds to the figure on Twitter with a denial and a healthy swig of a sarcasm power potion.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/03/22/bioshock-infinite-budget-oreo-box-art/

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #202 on:** March 23, 2013, 04:15:00 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 23, 2013, 10:37:56 AM

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In 1999 mode players will pick their specialization at the beginning of the game. From there on they'll be committed to a certain set of skills and powers. Decisions are permanent. Skills chosen are permanent. Even death is permanent, If you don't have the resources necessary to be brought back to life, it's game over for you, and with more demanding weapon, health, and power management, players can expect to see that screen on a fairly regular basis. Just like the good old days.

aaaannnndddd this game got on my radar.

Although I'm not sure...the game might try to rape me.

This is what applied internet feminism looks like

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #203 on:** March 23, 2013, 04:48:47 PM »

"Proud Virgin"

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #204 on:** March 23, 2013, 05:31:28 PM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on March 23, 2013, 04:15:00 PM

aaaannnndddd this game got on my radar.

Although I'm not sure...the game might try to rape me.

(Image removed from quote.)

This is what applied internet feminism looks like

Thanks a lot, devo.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #205 on:** March 23, 2013, 05:40:21 PM »

"In Columbia, 'roofied' is colloquial slang for being thrown off a roof, you vile harlots."

MCD · « **Reply #206 on:** March 23, 2013, 05:46:08 PM »

It's only offensive when some American developer says it.

demi · « **Reply #207 on:** March 23, 2013, 06:38:22 PM »

I sent back my gamefly game and they received it today, hopefully they send this my way this week.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #208 on:** March 23, 2013, 06:46:27 PM »

pre-order'd, pre-load'n

thanks, 100% extra best buy trade in!

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #209 on:** March 23, 2013, 08:54:55 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 23, 2013, 10:37:56 AM

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In 1999 mode players will pick their specialization at the beginning of the game. From there on they'll be committed to a certain set of skills and powers. Decisions are permanent. Skills chosen are permanent. Even death is permanent, If you don't have the resources necessary to be brought back to life, it's game over for you, and with more demanding weapon, health, and power management, players can expect to see that screen on a fairly regular basis. Just like the good old days.

That's. Fucking. RAD.

chronovore · « **Reply #210 on:** March 24, 2013, 09:50:51 AM »

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest that 1999 Mode will allow players t Load from Save Game data. So... Permadeath except if you've got the resources, or have saved your game at any point.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #211 on:** March 24, 2013, 01:08:15 PM »

Quote from: chronovore on March 24, 2013, 09:50:51 AM

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest that 1999 Mode will allow players t Load from Save Game data. So... Permadeath except if you've got the resources, or have saved your game at any point.

Yeah, I'm sure it just means no vita chambers.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #212 on:** March 24, 2013, 01:10:11 PM »

To be fair, even games actually from 1999 let you do that...

pilonv1 · « **Reply #213 on:** March 24, 2013, 08:11:56 PM »

Wasn't there a no vita-chambers mode in Bioshock 2?

chronovore · « **Reply #214 on:** March 24, 2013, 08:16:15 PM »

I think you could turn them off, and then there was an Achievement for completing a run without resurrecting yourself.

maxy · « **Reply #215 on:** March 25, 2013, 08:19:08 AM »

Reviews are out.

I guess $100 million for marketing is not a bad thing

maxy · « **Reply #216 on:** March 25, 2013, 09:04:40 AM »

some review

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It’s the Ocarina of Time of this generation (only infinitely better), and will be talked about and analysed for years to come.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #217 on:** March 25, 2013, 09:53:19 AM »

Dem vociferous laudations!

chronovore · « **Reply #218 on:** March 25, 2013, 10:24:21 AM »

Really?

I am going to be pissed if this ends up justifying writers who can't deliver on time.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #219 on:** March 25, 2013, 10:26:36 AM »

everyone was bitching about IGN getting the first review exclusive and how it was gonna be "11/10," and it turns out that guy was actually one of the more even-handed reviewers of the bunch

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #220 on:** March 25, 2013, 10:36:50 AM »

~~apparently, even if you preloaded, you still have to download like another 15GB of stuff when the game unlocks~~

n/m, appears to be a misunderstanding

magus · « **Reply #221 on:** March 25, 2013, 11:56:37 AM »

http://www.tv-so.com/2012/10/regular-show-season-4-episode-5-pie.html

5:50

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #222 on:** March 25, 2013, 12:12:10 PM »

I don't believe any of those numbers until some fellow Borians tell me the game is good

demi · « **Reply #223 on:** March 25, 2013, 12:25:05 PM »

Yesssss, Bioshock sent from GameFly

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #224 on:** March 25, 2013, 12:39:49 PM »

Quote from: chronovore on March 25, 2013, 10:24:21 AM

Really?

I am going to be pissed if this ends up justifying writers who can't deliver on time.

Wrath's been going crazy about it, at least.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #225 on:** March 25, 2013, 12:48:53 PM »

For a game like this the reviews are essentially meaningless. Which is not to say it may not be an amazing game. But this is the sort of game that falls right in line with the biases of the majority of "professional" game journalists. Its like catnip to them.

hampster · « **Reply #226 on:** March 25, 2013, 12:55:31 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on March 25, 2013, 10:26:36 AM

everyone was bitching about IGN getting the first review exclusive and how it was gonna be "11/10," and it turns out that guy was actually one of the more even-handed reviewers of the bunch

I really don't get the industry's fascination with lavishing over the top praise on big releases. From Adam Sessler's review:

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This moment, in its odd quietude and musical anachronism, is one of numerous tableaus in Bioshock Infinite that catapult this exhilarating meditation on identity, guilt, belief, narrative, revolution, race, national identity and eventually games themselves into a brilliant sensory symphony without precedent in the medium.

It is one of the most remarkable creative feats I have experienced.

I don't think I've even had sex that good. Jesus...

Still, the game looks good. I'm looking forward to playing it eventually

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #227 on:** March 25, 2013, 12:59:19 PM »

Jesus

Definitely holding off until I get the Demi Seal of Approval

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #228 on:** March 25, 2013, 01:02:01 PM »

Quote from: hampster on March 25, 2013, 12:55:31 PM

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on March 25, 2013, 10:26:36 AM
everyone was bitching about IGN getting the first review exclusive and how it was gonna be "11/10," and it turns out that guy was actually one of the more even-handed reviewers of the bunch

I really don't get the industry's fascination with lavishing over the top praise on big releases. From Adam Sessler's review:

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This moment, in its odd quietude and musical anachronism, is one of numerous tableaus in Bioshock Infinite that catapult this exhilarating meditation on identity, guilt, belief, narrative, revolution, race, national identity and eventually games themselves into a brilliant sensory symphony without precedent in the medium.

It is one of the most remarkable creative feats I have experienced.

I don't think I've even had sex that good. Jesus...

Still, the game looks good. I'm looking forward to playing it eventually

I still prefer IGN's uncharted 3 review. Which is funny because I can definitely say that game was over-rated by nearly everyone imo.

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I talk about the heart-wrenching section where Drake is by himself and completely lost. He's on his last legs, he's desperate, and I'm right there with him. I'm pushing him through the journey at hand and it's clear that it's a game, but as he stumbles, seeks shelter and loses hope, my heart breaks.

I think reviewers are part activists so when they play a game they really like they feel the need to over-sell to get people invested.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #229 on:** March 25, 2013, 01:04:36 PM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on March 25, 2013, 12:59:19 PM

Jesus

Definitely holding off until I get the Demi Seal of Approval

uhhh

demi liked advent rising, just saying

i want the frag seal of approval, he and i tend to have similar tastes

Himu · « **Reply #230 on:** March 25, 2013, 01:18:08 PM »

Is this game a linear POS like Bioshock 1, wrath

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #231 on:** March 25, 2013, 01:25:53 PM »

BioShock Infinite--better than an infinite supply of Doritos and mountain dew. Trust us. :geoff

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #232 on:** March 25, 2013, 01:33:30 PM »

...I just watched/read some reviews and pre-ordered it, dl'ing now so I can play when it unlocks

DAMN THIS HYPE

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #233 on:** March 25, 2013, 02:07:31 PM »

http://www.pcgamer.com/review/bioshock-infinite-review/#null

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I keep wanting to say that it’s ‘directed’ brilliantly, the elements fit together so well. But that’s not the right word, because the other thing it does well is keeping you in control. There are no cutscenes, no switching to third person, no agency-limiting tropes like mounted gun sections. The few times you’re not free to move are generally when your character physically wouldn’t be.

Maintaining that respect for the player, even when you need to tell a character-driven story, is a rare and wonderful thing. Like Half-Life 2, Infinite doesn’t feel like a game made by frustrated filmmakers. It feels like a game made by people who know how to make films, and decided to make something else.

*masturbates furiously*

Positive Touch · « **Reply #234 on:** March 25, 2013, 02:10:34 PM »

*takes down notes for future shit-talking*

demi · « **Reply #235 on:** March 25, 2013, 02:10:55 PM »

No multi achievements, fuck bioshock 2.

Yes Yes Yes.gif

Curious to start on 1999 mode from the start or just do Hard run first.

demi · « **Reply #236 on:** March 25, 2013, 02:20:09 PM »

You can unlock it with a button code.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #237 on:** March 25, 2013, 02:48:45 PM »

is this better than luigi's mansion 2

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #238 on:** March 25, 2013, 03:41:53 PM »

No probably not

Purple Filth · « **Reply #239 on:** March 25, 2013, 03:56:06 PM »

maybe i will try to finish the first game then...

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Author Topic: BioShock Infinite (Burial at Sea - Episode One) (Read 84147 times)