Author Topic: Dark Souls (Read 260754 times)

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #1620 on:** August 28, 2012, 02:52:27 AM »

Fucking stupid. This game has so far has been pretty good about being challenging but fair, but this shit just forces me to radically backtrack if I want to stand any chance whatsoever against the boss. Mega annoyed. I mad.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1621 on:** August 28, 2012, 02:59:11 AM »

the game world isn't that big.... and there's many a shortcut to unlock. You just have to go back to the church and buy a curse stone off the dude

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #1622 on:** August 28, 2012, 03:03:21 AM »

I'm in the depths though. That's way far.

Anyway, regardless of distance, forced back tracking is forced back tracking, and forced backtracking is shit game design. Period.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1623 on:** August 28, 2012, 04:25:43 AM »

you just have to learn to like it

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #1624 on:** August 28, 2012, 04:38:11 AM »

I still love this game. So much.

I did the backtracking. And then I beat the boss. And then I died in Blighttown and then immediately accidentally fell off a ledge, losing 38k souls forever.

:santocry

iconoclast · « **Reply #1625 on:** August 28, 2012, 09:34:07 AM »

You're not forced to backtrack. You could just complete rest of the dungeon with half health, then buy the item once you're out.

edit: Don't think this was mentioned in this thread, but PtD Edition has some balance changes as well: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/606312-dark-souls/63856242

This is what they've found so far:

Quote

DWGR nerfed to below 25% equip load (CONFIRMED)
BB transfer glitch fixed (CONFIRMED)
Claymore and Moonlight Greatsword speed nerfed (CONFIRMED)Possibly all Greatswords
New warp locations, such as Undead Parish, the Depths, Tomb of the Giants Dukes Archives, Painted World, and more
Elite Knight Set fixed. Now the poise is the same as the regular Knight set (CONFIRMED)
Hornet Ring nerfed. Damage is now increased by 30%, not 50% (CONFIRMED)
Some item changes on corpses (CONFIRMED)
Eagle Shield physical damage reduction down to 95% from 100% due to its wooden nature (CONFIRMED)
Mid-Rolls buffed (CONFIRMED)
Elemental weapons slightly nerfed (CONFIRMED)
Mask of the Father nerfed. Now adds +5% equip load (CONFIRMED)
Mask of the Mother nerfed. Now adds +10% HP (CONFIRMED)
Hyper Armor for STR weapons returned (CONFIRMED) Apparently only SOME of em.
Miracle Synergy rings fixed (CONFIRMED)
Bow Backstab removed(UNCONFIRMED)
Dark Anor Londo hollow tag team not respawning (UNCONFIRMED)
Tracers left hand attacks CHAIN (CONFIRMED)
"Wooden Carving" items that speak a predetermined phrase when used (Like Thank you, Very Good, Hello, I'm Sorry, etc) (CONFIRMED)

Seems good to me.

naff · « **Reply #1626 on:** August 28, 2012, 06:50:35 PM »

Nice, though the claymore speed nerf kinda sucks. That and the zwei are my favourite weapons

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1627 on:** August 28, 2012, 08:30:28 PM »

OMG.

was making my way through the depths. was playing a bit carelessly because I knew the bonfire was close and i had plenty of estus flasks.

then all of a sudden my game was invaded by an enemy player. i turned that off on 360 and forgot about it.

fuckin battle for my life. luckily the guy wasn't too good and i managed to take him down. my halberg is great since i can hit him before he got even close to me. heart was pounding super hard.

iconoclast · « **Reply #1628 on:** August 28, 2012, 09:40:54 PM »

The Dark Souls wiki has a more comprehensive guide for the list of changes & new content: http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/PTDE+content+and+changes

Just got done with Blighttown. Feels good to go through it in 1080p without ever dropping a frame. PC

naff · « **Reply #1629 on:** August 29, 2012, 08:08:31 AM »

Bought and downloaded through Steam. Just waiting on a wired 360 pad for my PC now

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #1630 on:** August 29, 2012, 12:46:46 PM »

Help meeeeee. I'm fighting Quelaag, and it'd be a super easy fight if it weren't for that stupid unblockable shout attack that does enormous damage. How do I deal with that?

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #1631 on:** August 29, 2012, 12:51:53 PM »

Oh shit, I should just summon that sexy babe I beat up.

Robo · « **Reply #1632 on:** August 29, 2012, 12:59:10 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on August 28, 2012, 08:30:28 PM

OMG.

was making my way through the depths. was playing a bit carelessly because I knew the bonfire was close and i had plenty of estus flasks.

then all of a sudden my game was invaded by an enemy player. i turned that off on 360 and forgot about it.

fuckin battle for my life. luckily the guy wasn't too good and i managed to take him down. my halberg is great since i can hit him before he got even close to me. heart was pounding super hard.

Was it this guy? He pops up in the Depths and a couple other locations. http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Knight+Kirk

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1633 on:** August 29, 2012, 01:06:37 PM »

YEAH.

so it's not a human player?

aw... i felt all good when it happened and i defeated him.

naff · « **Reply #1634 on:** August 30, 2012, 05:10:56 PM »

Played for nearly 7 hours yesterday. I've played this twice before and it still grabs me more than any other game I've played in years.

SantaC · « **Reply #1635 on:** August 30, 2012, 07:30:49 PM »

just started demon souls. I killed 1-2 boss, but i dont get this tendency thing. How do I check if I am white or black?

iconoclast · « **Reply #1636 on:** August 30, 2012, 08:15:20 PM »

Quote from: SantaC on August 30, 2012, 07:30:49 PM

just started demon souls. I killed 1-2 boss, but i dont get this tendency thing. How do I check if I am white or black?

The statue in the middle is your Character Tendency, and the archstones show your tendency for each world.

Both Character and World Tendency unlock new events if you're pure white or pure black.

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/world-tendency
http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/character-tendency

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1637 on:** August 30, 2012, 08:43:07 PM »

i thought they removed farming in darkroot garden... guess not.

This is awesome. all the things I learned when playing the 360 version and now I'm rocking a 200+ damage halberg thats already been modified at a blacksmith. i have the dragon axe from the Gaping Dragon but I cant use it since it needs 50 strength :O

tried to kill the bridge dragon and failed. on the 360 it just killed itself so i got lucky.

managed to kill the dakroot garden and undead parish knights on the first try.

SantaC · « **Reply #1638 on:** August 31, 2012, 07:31:13 AM »

wow demon souls is simply amazing! No handholding? what the fuck how come a developer make good decisions for once?

I havent played dark souls, but i thought starting with DS. Not dissappointed so far. Only thing that irks me is that I Heard armor is pretty useless.

archnemesis · « **Reply #1639 on:** August 31, 2012, 09:38:07 AM »

It's not useless, but it's way more important to be agile. You should always use less than 50% of your max equip burden.

demi · « **Reply #1640 on:** August 31, 2012, 09:45:30 AM »

Quote from: SantaC on August 31, 2012, 07:31:13 AM

wow demon souls is simply amazing! No handholding? what the fuck how come a developer make good decisions for once?

I havent played dark souls, but i thought starting with DS. Not dissappointed so far. Only thing that irks me is that I Heard armor is pretty useless.

Why does it irk you? You only heard it. That sounds like handholding. Which you hate.

Make up your mind.

SantaC · « **Reply #1641 on:** August 31, 2012, 11:56:03 AM »

Quote from: demi on August 31, 2012, 09:45:30 AM

Quote from: SantaC on August 31, 2012, 07:31:13 AM
wow demon souls is simply amazing! No handholding? what the fuck how come a developer make good decisions for once?

I havent played dark souls, but i thought starting with DS. Not dissappointed so far. Only thing that irks me is that I Heard armor is pretty useless.

Why does it irk you? You only heard it. That sounds like handholding. Which you hate.

Make up your mind.

well I only found one set of armor so far, and it is pretty clunky. Keeping below 50% of Equipment seems pretty hard.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #1642 on:** August 31, 2012, 12:49:46 PM »

This game is so gooooooooooooooooooooooooood. Mmmmmmmmm. Wish I had a PS3 to try Demon Souls on.

archnemesis · « **Reply #1643 on:** August 31, 2012, 12:53:50 PM »

Quote from: SantaC on August 31, 2012, 11:56:03 AM

well I only found one set of armor so far, and it is pretty clunky. Keeping below 50% of Equipment seems pretty hard.

It's actually really easy. Just unequip parts until you reach below the threshold.

I prefer Demon's Souls to Dark Souls and you should definitely give it a try, BobFromPikeCreek. Maybe you can borrow a system from someone?

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #1644 on:** August 31, 2012, 01:00:09 PM »

Definitely want to try it. I'll probably just buy a PS3 in six months when I get home. Until then I can just play the crap out of this.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1645 on:** September 01, 2012, 11:43:24 AM »

I want a PC so I can get all the achievements again. Dark Souls is basically the perfect game. It's sitting on my personal pedestal next to Killer 7 and Castlevania SotN.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1646 on:** September 01, 2012, 11:49:04 AM »

re-posting for all the new players

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1647 on:** September 01, 2012, 12:57:32 PM »

Quote from: The Sceneman on September 01, 2012, 11:43:24 AM

I want a PC so I can get all the achievements again. Dark Souls is basically the perfect game. It's sitting on my personal pedestal next to Killer 7 and Castlevania SotN.

Killer 7? really?

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1648 on:** September 01, 2012, 01:03:33 PM »

maybe it was a place and time kind of thing, but Killer 7 rocked my world.

Fantastic gameplay, blended with the most over the top art-house pontification, and a gorgeous soundtrack. It stands in my head as a fucking masterpiece.

As I said, a place and a time.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1649 on:** September 01, 2012, 01:23:38 PM »

Quote from: The Sceneman on September 01, 2012, 01:03:33 PM

Fantastic gameplay

now you're trolling.

brob · « **Reply #1650 on:** September 01, 2012, 01:49:12 PM »

Killer7 is a great game. Symphony of the Night ruined the Castlevania series though, any and all brownie points deducted.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1651 on:** September 02, 2012, 07:49:12 PM »

i've caught up to my save on 360. Anor Londo

funny how, once i get here, my enthusiasm for playing drops.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #1652 on:** September 02, 2012, 11:56:47 PM »

Just finished the painted world. Gotta find the blacksmith that'll make my level 10 halberd lightningified.

Anyway, gamers are pretty weak these days if this passes for HARDEST GAME EVER. This is like the perfect level of difficulty, and I wish they made more games with some semblance of challenge.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1653 on:** September 03, 2012, 10:08:51 AM »

is the catlady in the painted world difficult? didnt feel like fighting her so i left.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #1654 on:** September 03, 2012, 12:19:28 PM »

It's not supposed to be, but it was a tremendous pain in my ass because the bitch wouldn't come out of invisibility.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1655 on:** September 03, 2012, 05:58:07 PM »

yeah. i've tried like dozen times and i just can't. i can track her from the footprints but when i go in for an attack i manage to do some damage then get immediately hit. i try to run away but i get hit from the back. whatevs. dumb boss fight. but now i'm stuck in the painted world because she keeps attacking me. LAME

naff · « **Reply #1656 on:** September 03, 2012, 06:23:10 PM »

I'm finding the game a fair bit more difficult now I'm rolling Dex, not min maxing with Strength weapons. Little to no stun lock or ground smashes and the uchi has really small hit boxes, I definitely enjoy using Strength based weapons a lot more than Dex ones. Not sure how much longer I'm going to continue with my run, things aren't as smooth on my PC as I hoped. It looks much better at a higher res but the framerate is a little frustrating. Mostly good, but dips in and out

hopefully I'll be able to squeeze a little more performance out of my PoS laptop

Vizzys · « **Reply #1657 on:** September 03, 2012, 07:11:40 PM »

I been playing this~ I beat the gargoyle bosses and rang that bell

but now im underground raging at enemy ghosts attacking through fucking walls

naff · « **Reply #1658 on:** September 03, 2012, 08:11:54 PM »

After the Gargoyles, New Londo probably isn't the place you want to be..

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Head back to the beginning of the bridge with the Red Dragon where you first meet Knight Solaire and head into the depths. There's a pretty frustrating/cheap fight at the end of this area to get a key to access the sewers, but if you run past the fog door to the right you can open a shortcut to the first bonfire making running back (after you inevitably die numerous times) slightly less frustrating

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Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1659 on:** September 03, 2012, 08:33:40 PM »

Quote from: Viz on September 03, 2012, 07:11:40 PM

but now im underground raging at enemy ghosts attacking through fucking walls

I really hated that part, had my absolutely on edge for about 2 hours.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1660 on:** September 03, 2012, 08:39:07 PM »

DECISION MAKING TIME.

I have a +10 gargoyle halberg.

I can ascend it to Lighting RIGHT NOW.

Or I can bail out of Anor Londo, head back to Undead Parish, then down into the depths, then into blighttown, then into queelags domain, then into the lava area (cant remember name) and try to get the chaos ember. I know where it is and have gotten it before in my 360 save.

I heard chaos is stronger.

WHAT SHOULD I DO?

naff · « **Reply #1661 on:** September 03, 2012, 10:21:29 PM »

Chaos would do the highest damage but iirc relies on having 10 humanity in stock to deal top damage, are you mainly pumping Strength or something else?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1662 on:** September 03, 2012, 10:47:02 PM »

hmm. i guess for my purposes Lightning will do just fine. plus it's easier to upgrade.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1663 on:** September 04, 2012, 09:44:58 AM »

here i am, thinking i'm tough shit. not a care in the world. taking out knights and giant knights left and right.

then orntein and smough

FatalT · « **Reply #1664 on:** September 04, 2012, 07:26:25 PM »

I'm holding off on playing anymore of the Xbox 360 version until the DLC comes out.

Raban · « **Reply #1665 on:** September 04, 2012, 09:00:25 PM »

Sen's Fortress was driving me mad earlier, I felt like I was inching my way through it. Cleared it before I could find the bonfire and I'm in Anor Londo now.

It was painful in the moment, but looking back I'm very grateful the game would not let me progress before I really knew the area in and out. That place is gonna be a walk in the park next game.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1666 on:** September 04, 2012, 09:44:28 PM »

finished Anor Londo. I did the Dukes Archive but wasn't able to get into the crystal cave (spent a long time getting to the entrance of the garden only to get killed by a mimic beast FUCK.) so i bailed out of there.

Figured I would go back and kill the the Hyrda but i feel off the fucking water edge and didnt feel like doing it again

then went and took care of the valley of the drakes. not too hard.

so now i'm here:

lets see what i can do here

Vizzys · « **Reply #1667 on:** September 05, 2012, 07:45:50 AM »

invasion and co op stuff is p cool

I fought this one guy twice who just wrecked me in seconds, I didnt have much souls so no biggie

then i tried in another spot and found a guy who looked much less badass so we start fightan, but then his white phantom friend like pops out of hiding and tries to backstab me. Luckily i rolled the fuck out of there then used the black soul stone thing to escape but it was close

whats with 2v1?

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1668 on:** September 05, 2012, 07:49:38 AM »

So did the last patch make this game easier? For us mortals.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1669 on:** September 05, 2012, 08:12:59 AM »

basically it did. Most Soul drops are doubled from the original version of the game. Humanity is also much much easier to aquire, thus you can co-op bosses all the time and that makes shit easier. Certain exploitable items were nerfed though. Still, a lot of weapons still kick ass and there are lots of viable strategies.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1670 on:** September 05, 2012, 09:30:45 AM »

So you level up twice as fast now? Man I might buy this and finish it this time.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1671 on:** September 05, 2012, 07:23:19 PM »

so... four kings

i didnt know i needed to fight Sif

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #1672 on:** September 05, 2012, 07:25:45 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on September 04, 2012, 09:44:58 AM

then orntein and smough

These dudes are creaming me. What was your approach?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1673 on:** September 05, 2012, 08:08:09 PM »

Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on September 05, 2012, 07:25:45 PM

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on September 04, 2012, 09:44:58 AM
then orntein and smough

These dudes are creaming me. What was your approach?

well most people seem to think it's better to kill Smough (fat one) first so I did that. I targeted Ornstein because he's faster and I didnt want to lose track of him. With Ornstein targeted I kited them around and slowly took out Smough. It's just a matter of using the pillars to keep them from hitting you. There's some videos you can use but obvs you have to do it yourself. I will say that switched to a light armor set so I could roll faster.

Def focus on just one because when you do kill one, the other turns 'SUPER' and gets all their health back. In Ornstein's case he gets really big and all his attacks are stronger. For him I basically always attempted to put pillars between your both at all times. When he does a side swipe with his spear I run at him, roll between his legs and hit him once or twice. Then back away and dodge, block, and wait until he does it again.

Vizzys · « **Reply #1674 on:** September 05, 2012, 11:18:51 PM »

killed an invader

took his souls and I guess you randomly get some of their gear in the drop?

I got a spiky shield and barbed sword

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1675 on:** September 05, 2012, 11:27:02 PM »

so i decided to go and upgrade the katana from the undead burg vendor to a fire sword. farmed the slugs in blighttown for awhile to get green titanite shards.

now i have a +13 fire sword. not as powerful as my lightning gargoyle halberd but at least i have a fire weapon now.

took a long fucking time going all the way to the demon ruins just for the fire ember and the blacksmith in the catacombs is a bitch to get to. but it's worth it.

now i just need red titanite chunks....

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #1676 on:** September 06, 2012, 02:14:50 AM »

Quote from: Viz on September 05, 2012, 11:18:51 PM

killed an invader

took his souls and I guess you randomly get some of their gear in the drop?

I got a spiky shield and barbed sword

If they dropped shit I think that means it was a CPU invader.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #1677 on:** September 06, 2012, 02:16:15 AM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on September 05, 2012, 11:27:02 PM

so i decided to go and upgrade the katana from the undead burg vendor to a fire sword. farmed the slugs in blighttown for awhile to get green titanite shards.

now i have a +13 fire sword. not as powerful as my lightning gargoyle halberd but at least i have a fire weapon now.

took a long fucking time going all the way to the demon ruins just for the fire ember and the blacksmith in the catacombs is a bitch to get to. but it's worth it.

now i just need red titanite chunks....

Decided to pass on Quelaag's Furysword? I made it and it seems pretty ace.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1678 on:** September 06, 2012, 08:33:05 AM »

forgot about all that. i was going to make the cursed sword of artoris but i dont have enough intelligence.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1679 on:** September 06, 2012, 10:14:59 AM »

Quote from: Viz on September 05, 2012, 11:18:51 PM

killed an invader

took his souls and I guess you randomly get some of their gear in the drop?

I got a spiky shield and barbed sword

http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Knight+Kirk

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Author Topic: Dark Souls (Read 260754 times)