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Re: Steam Holiday Sales (11/29: Nothing good. See you at the Christmas sale!)
« Reply #180 on: November 29, 2010, 09:20:47 PM »
There's not much left on Steam that I really want, so unless shit is just discounted outrageously I don't see myself spending much during the Holiday sale.

Once you've played Iron Roses, everything else pales. ;)

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Re: Steam Holiday Sales (11/29: Nothing good. See you at the Christmas sale!)
« Reply #182 on: November 29, 2010, 10:47:43 PM »
Iron Roses looks fantastic.

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Anyway this was a shitty sale. I think I spent more on gifts for others (Defense Grid 10 pack) than I did for myself (Indie Story Pack).

For the Xmas there's not a lot left for me to hope for. Maybe Dragon Age or Dead Rising. I have the Eschalon games on my wishlist but I'm never going to get them at $20.

I wonder if that's going to become an issue for Steam. Not so much training people to wait for sales, because there's always going to be launch buyers, especially for titles with multiplayer modes. But how many times can you put something on sale and still get a decent return? How much cheaper do you have to make some of these titles before people will bite? And the fact that people are now being more careful with their sale choices because they've bought so much previously. It's an interesting situation.
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« Reply #183 on: November 29, 2010, 11:05:10 PM »
It definitely bites them in the ass.  It's a lot like the $.99 craze on iphone apps.  Now everyone is used to that price point and anything above will get fewer sales.

I'd guess a good percent of steam users now avoid games until they are at least 50% off in steam sales unless they must have the title.  I know that outside of a few must have PC games like New Vegas I basically wait for sales.  You see stuff like Kane & Lynch 2 which was $40+ a few months ago and is now $5.  I mean console games drop pretty hard these days as well, but it seems to go like this:

Console game:
day 1= $50-60
month 2-3 = $35-40
month 6-12 = $30
month 12-24 = $15
3 years in = $10 or less

PC game:
day 1 = $40-60
month 2 = $25-30
month 6-12 = $15-30
month 12-24 = $5

So if you're willing to wait a year, PC games bottom out, whereas with console games it takes a few years and they're still rarely $5-7.50.

What does this all mean?  I'm not really sure.  But I think you're creating a class of drop 1 waiters & drop 2 waiters on PC whereas on console there's really only drop 1 waiters & years later bargain bin hunters.  For instance I bought Metro 2033 for like $20 six months after release; was waiting for a drop.  But there were a lot of people who didn't bite last big sale at $20-25 and are now picking it up for $10.  I didn't buy Mafia II today because $37 was drop 1 and not worth it to me, so I'll wait for drop 2 in another 6 months when it hits $15 or less.  Some will wait for drop 3 in a year when it's $7.50.

Otoh, I bought Dead Rising 2 day 1 because it was $40.  I buy indie stuff like Super Meat Boy day 1 because it's $10.  I think if companies price their games right they can still get a lot of day 1 buyers and just use the sales to bring in extra revenue down the line.

Something like Kane & Lynch 2 should've been about $30 day 1.  Mafia 2 $40 day 1.  Lost Planet 2 $20 day 1 because it was coming late off bad word of mouth.  PC games should be priced individually based on genre, review quality, and if they are late ports, word of mouth.

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Re: Steam Holiday Sales (11/29: Nothing good. See you at the Christmas sale!)
« Reply #184 on: November 29, 2010, 11:14:03 PM »
There is that, but how much shit has gone so dirt cheap that you've bought because it was too cheap not to buy. Money that'll be seen on games you'll never play.

Plus. if it's a game you really are interested in, how often do you wait until it's $7.50 instead of $12.50?
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« Reply #185 on: November 29, 2010, 11:32:57 PM »
I wish I would've waited on New Vegas.  I am a Bethesda fanboy so I wanted the CE, but that was underwhelming, and now that I know a large patch is coming to fix a lot of the bugs (aka "We're finally finishing the game!") I have no interest in completing it until then and wish I'd have waited for it to go on sale over the holiday.  Between that poorly optimized glitchfest and CoD's stuttering bullshit, no more launch day PC games for me.
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« Reply #186 on: November 29, 2010, 11:38:25 PM »
It's all about longevity of sales, as far as PC price drops go.  Mafia II may be $10 all day long next spring, but there is no packaging and distribution cost involved.  And two years from now, when new PC owners (or holdouts) are buying it, it's nothing but pure profit for them at that point.  Also, no second hand market. 
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« Reply #187 on: November 30, 2010, 12:30:57 AM »
Don't most games sales figures drop off a cliff after the first week, barring huge hits like Call of Duty?  These sales are essentially a second wind for most games and drum up interest and revenue that otherwise wouldn't be there.  Also PC gamers are typically more value conscious (read: cheap) than their console counterparts.  I wouldn't have touched any of the games I bought recently if they weren't on sale, so the publishers do get some money from me that they wouldn't otherwise see.

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« Reply #188 on: November 30, 2010, 01:27:03 AM »
There is that, but how much shit has gone so dirt cheap that you've bought because it was too cheap not to buy.

That's what's happening though, I'm not buying stuff even though it's cheap. Metro is now $7.50 for me and it was AUS$90 when it launched.

Bebpo bringing up the 99c apps is a great example, the initial rush of dirt cheap PC games is wearing off.
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Re: Steam Holiday Sales (11/29: Nothing good. See you at the Christmas sale!)
« Reply #189 on: November 30, 2010, 02:41:41 AM »
... I want to play Iron Roses.
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« Reply #190 on: November 30, 2010, 04:29:39 AM »
Shame there are no JP exclusives.

Reccetear almost counts.

And I'd love some "real" JP exclusivos on Steam :tauntaun
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« Reply #191 on: November 30, 2010, 07:25:18 AM »
Wait, they have Christmas Sales too? Whoa.
Think I might buy some EBers virtual christmas gifts, apart from those who already own every frigging game! Shame there are no JP exclusives.

From what I hear, the big J companies are so terrified of the brick-and-mortar stores rising up against them that they are highly reluctant to put games up on steam at all. Never mind discount them.
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« Reply #192 on: November 30, 2010, 07:54:59 AM »
Wait, they have Christmas Sales too? Whoa.

Christmas and Summer are the two big Steam deal times. Christmas is the primary where we get the best deals and Summer usually gets the same deals but not as good.

I fully expect to dump my moneys into Gabe's mouth by the end of this month.
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« Reply #193 on: November 30, 2010, 09:52:32 AM »
I wish I would've waited on New Vegas.  I am a Bethesda fanboy so I wanted the CE, but that was underwhelming, and now that I know a large patch is coming to fix a lot of the bugs (aka "We're finally finishing the game!") I have no interest in completing it until then and wish I'd have waited for it to go on sale over the holiday.  Between that poorly optimized glitchfest and CoD's stuttering bullshit, no more launch day PC games for me.

Same here. I played Vegas for 10 hours when it came out.. wandered around the wasteland and did a few of the main story missions, then I lost interest due to all the other games I have.  As far as I'm concerned that's 50 bucks down the drain.  I saw the game for $29.99 during Black Friday.. just had to wait a few weeks.  I'm never buying another single-player PC game on day one again.  They drop in price so fast
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Re: Steam Holiday Sales (11/29: Nothing good. See you at the Christmas sale!)
« Reply #194 on: November 30, 2010, 10:07:15 AM »
After Day 1 sales, alot of this revenue is basically putting a mandatory "donate what you feel" link with a pirate torrent link, instead it comes with all the convienence of steam - that can still be a nice revenue stream
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« Reply #195 on: November 30, 2010, 12:26:02 PM »
Yeah, you gotta figure, how much was the first Mafia game earning 2k a year ago?  Zero dollars. It's $9.99 now.  Now, let's say it drops to $5 over the Steam Holiday sale, and 5000 people buy it.  That's $25k worth of revenue, just for uploading a file.
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« Reply #196 on: November 30, 2010, 09:16:57 PM »
Yeah, you gotta figure, how much was the first Mafia game earning 2k a year ago?  Zero dollars. It's $9.99 now.  Now, let's say it drops to $5 over the Steam Holiday sale, and 5000 people buy it.  That's $25k worth of revenue, just for uploading a file.

Plus, it serves as free advertising for Mafia II. And they can package it together with a bunch of other junk to make something people will pay $50 for. It's all upside. Not much upside, but still.

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« Reply #197 on: December 01, 2010, 01:08:50 AM »
Yeah, you gotta figure, how much was the first Mafia game earning 2k a year ago?  Zero dollars. It's $9.99 now.  Now, let's say it drops to $5 over the Steam Holiday sale, and 5000 people buy it.  That's $25k worth of revenue, just for uploading a file.

Plus, it serves as free advertising for Mafia II. And they can package it together with a bunch of other junk to make something people will pay $50 for. It's all upside. Not much upside, but still.



Almost like Australia, where the local distributors jack up the prices on everything so they're at parity with the B&M retailers. So we end up having a US $30-$40 tax on our new release games
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« Reply #198 on: December 01, 2010, 01:43:36 AM »
Wait, they have Christmas Sales too? Whoa.
Think I might buy some EBers virtual christmas gifts, apart from those who already own every frigging game! Shame there are no JP exclusives.

From what I hear, the big J companies are so terrified of the brick-and-mortar stores rising up against them that they are highly reluctant to put games up on steam at all. Never mind discount them.

It's the same with PSN for PSP games. They need to grow balls, seriously.
Can you imagine the insane amount of Yen Capcom has lost today with not putting MHP3rd on PSN? Sold out in every store in Japan within a couple of hours and fuck all they can do. Good job, brick-and-mortar bastards!

You know, I think part of the reason why Japan is getting left behind in videogames isn't even a "Japanese developers are behind on tech" thing.  I think a lot of it is that Japanese publishers are getting further and further behind Western publishers in understanding how to sell videogames.  Straying away from digital content, using DLC only to nickel & dime (id@lmaster, Project Diva, Vesperia, SF4 etc...), raising prices to $80-100 a game; Japanese publishers are trying to adopt to higher dev costs and lower sales by making the market MORE unfriendly for consumers and thus squashing it down to the same otaku-collectors only market that the anime market became.  They're basically suffocating the industry whereas in the west with a push toward things like XBLA/PSN, Indie games, $10-20 lower price points on many games, they're making videogames accessible and affordable to bring in as many people as possible.

Personally I'm really unhappy with the Japanese videogame market as of late.  They used to be the place full of creativity, but now it's just musou #45452 collectors box for $150 or PS2.5 sequel #6 to a series that once sold well.

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« Reply #199 on: December 01, 2010, 02:26:40 AM »
http://www.mcvuk.com/features/808/OPINION-Retail-vs-Steam

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What is more surprising is the reaction of retail now. I have read it described as the reaction of a small child who threw his toy away because he no longer wanted it, but started screaming as soon as another child picked it up to play with. The metaphor works perfectly, especially in the light of the excuse I heard on numerous occasions.

‘There is no demand’ went the mantra. But is this really true? Not in our experience.

I remember fondly the meeting in my office with a red-faced publisher who was explaining why their initial order from a major retailer for one of our new releases was just 30 units. At the time I had my browser open on the Steam product data page, which updates sales numbers every few minutes.

“They have taken one unit for each of their top 30 stores” he told me. “There is just no demand from their customers”.

I glanced at my screen, hit refresh and advised him: “In the time it’s taken you to tell me that there is no demand, Steam has sold 45 units”.

Steam is selling decent numbers of our titles. They are really cool to work with, have a refreshing, knowledgeable developer mentality, and never bully or threaten their suppliers.

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As a generalisation, retail would pay these guys a maximum of 40 per cent of what they made. So on a £29.99 game the publisher would receive about £12 (and on a sub-licensed deal, we would then only get about £4.25 of that) – minus return, write down and consignment costs.

When would we get that money? Well, payment would be by the end of the quarter.

So, let’s say £10 per unit sale goes to the publisher, £3 to the developer/sub-licensor, and it’s in your bank five months after the customer has paid out £30.

Compare that to the digital model. On a £29.99 sale, the digital partner will pay the publisher – or in many cases direct to the developer – between 60 and 70 per cent, by the end of the month following the sale.

Wow. To recap: on a sale over the counter today, we can have our £3 by the end of March, or on a digital sale, we can have £20 by Christmas.

Remind me why we should choose to go with retail and decline to let Steam sell the game?

Steam is saving PC gaming.

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Re: Steam Holiday Sales (11/29: Nothing good. See you at the Christmas sale!)
« Reply #200 on: December 01, 2010, 03:17:54 AM »
Bebpo -

The frustrating thing is that people get it in regard to cellphone gaming. Start-ups like Gree are dominating with ad-driven /paid content-driven free browser-type games in that area, for example. And iPhone is killing it. The big console publishers have absolutely no idea though, I agree.
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« Reply #201 on: December 02, 2010, 12:22:57 PM »
Puzzle Agent got patched, fixed the Nvidia 400 card issues
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« Reply #202 on: December 02, 2010, 07:58:44 PM »
... I want to play Iron Roses.

"Thanks" to Akala for making my dream come true :gloomy

I'll start a thread :)
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« Reply #203 on: December 02, 2010, 08:27:00 PM »
let's see if you make it farther than i did
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« Reply #204 on: December 02, 2010, 08:28:47 PM »
... I want to play Iron Roses.

"Thanks" to Akala for making my dream come true :gloomy

I'll start a thread :)

Someone gift it to me and I'll join you. ;)
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« Reply #205 on: December 02, 2010, 08:57:37 PM »
... I want to play Iron Roses.

"Thanks" to Akala for making my dream come true :gloomy

I'll start a thread :)

No problem.  :lol

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« Reply #206 on: December 02, 2010, 09:13:34 PM »
... I want to play Iron Roses.

"Thanks" to Akala for making my dream come true :gloomy

I'll start a thread :)

Someone gift it to me and I'll join you. ;)

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« Reply #207 on: December 02, 2010, 09:19:35 PM »
Thank you, generous sir. Off to play the Evilbore PC GOTY. :heart :heartbeat :heart
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« Reply #208 on: December 06, 2010, 07:02:11 AM »
How far in advance do these things usually get leaked?

And does anyone know what last years xmas sales window was/if they've announced this years?
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« Reply #209 on: December 06, 2010, 08:56:23 AM »
i'm hoping deathspank goes on sale. would like to play it
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« Reply #210 on: December 06, 2010, 11:46:54 AM »
How far in advance do these things usually get leaked?

And does anyone know what last years xmas sales window was/if they've announced this years?

Last two weeks of December + first week of January. They usually get leaked, if at all, a day in advance or the first day of the sale.

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« Reply #211 on: December 06, 2010, 08:10:47 PM »
Steam treasure hunt is genius.  Going to sell a loooot of games and get people to actually PLAY THEM in order to have a 0.000001% chance of winning free stuff  :lol

/I'm buying chime

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« Reply #212 on: December 06, 2010, 08:28:25 PM »
Me too :(
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« Reply #213 on: December 06, 2010, 09:39:27 PM »
Steam treasure hunt is genius.  Going to sell a loooot of games and get people to actually PLAY THEM in order to have a 0.000001% chance of winning free stuff  :lol

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« Reply #214 on: December 07, 2010, 01:17:55 AM »
Chime is really good.  Can't believe I missed it all this time.

I had reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally bad luck streak trying to win the Heavy's Iron Curtain.  Finally did it though.  3 out of 4 objectives for day 1-2!!

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« Reply #215 on: December 07, 2010, 02:03:16 AM »
Wow this is awesome. And cheap games too.
Seriously, anyone that doesn't buy Chime at that price deserves an early, painful death.

Word, I scoffed at this comment and then I decided, what the hell, and bought it. Most awesome puzzle game since Lumines.

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« Reply #216 on: December 07, 2010, 02:12:46 AM »
What's great about this event is it'll get some people (*coughcough me coughcough*) to play more new games in the next week than if I actually won the 100 games which I'd just throw in my backlog and never touch.  I wish more companies would have contest that encourage actually playing games.

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« Reply #217 on: December 07, 2010, 02:19:50 AM »
What's great about this event is it'll get some people (*coughcough me coughcough*) to play more new games in the next week than if I actually won the 100 games which I'd just throw in my backlog and never touch.  I wish more companies would have contest that encourage actually playing games.

This. A million times this. If the contest was just "Buy Chime" I would've bought it and shelved it for about a year before I even considered installing it. This got me playing it right away. Thanks Steam! :rock

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« Reply #218 on: December 07, 2010, 02:58:17 AM »
how are you even supposed to get More Cowbell in chime?

I don't see an easy mode or anything, and I did stage 1 of that song in the 9 minute mode, quit out after I had enough points, and I don't have it.

fun game, though. 

maybe I was off by a digit i dunno

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« Reply #219 on: December 07, 2010, 03:03:16 AM »
how are you even supposed to get More Cowbell in chime?

I don't see an easy mode or anything, and I did stage 1 of that song in the 9 minute mode, quit out after I had enough points, and I don't have it.

fun game, though. 

maybe I was off by a digit i dunno

It's in stage 2, cigarillo.

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« Reply #220 on: December 07, 2010, 04:34:12 AM »
Yeah, you gotta score well enough in stage 1 9 min to unlock stage 2, then do stage 2 9 min and beat the score.

I'm not sure what the trick to the game is, but what I was doing is first filling out the whole area for completion bonus and then doing lots of small chains to build up the multiplier to 10x or more and then start doing as big of chains as possible.  Dunno if that's the most efficient way to score or not, but it worked to get me the objective!

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« Reply #221 on: December 07, 2010, 05:53:49 AM »
That's basically what I was doing too. It's a fun game, and when it clicks it's great but sometimes I feel like I'm just dropping stuff for no reason.
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« Reply #222 on: December 07, 2010, 11:18:24 AM »
Quick favour to ask. Can anyone gift me Poker Night? My credit card is on hold right now so I can't purchase it >:(
Promise to get you something groovy in return.

I will, add me as a friend or PM me your Steam e-mail
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« Reply #223 on: December 07, 2010, 11:24:42 AM »
is poker night any good, btw?

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« Reply #224 on: December 07, 2010, 11:27:14 AM »
It's uhhh...poker with some witty banter.

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« Reply #225 on: December 07, 2010, 11:39:23 AM »
Quick favour to ask. Can anyone gift me Poker Night? My credit card is on hold right now so I can't purchase it >:(
Promise to get you something groovy in return.

I will, add me as a friend or PM me your Steam e-mail

already done!
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« Reply #226 on: December 07, 2010, 01:01:49 PM »
Quick favour to ask. Can anyone gift me Poker Night? My credit card is on hold right now so I can't purchase it >:(
Promise to get you something groovy in return.

I will, add me as a friend or PM me your Steam e-mail

already done!

FU

I'm gonna send you a game as revenge

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« Reply #227 on: December 07, 2010, 01:47:48 PM »
Archie can you put this in the OP?

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« Reply #228 on: December 07, 2010, 01:52:37 PM »
gabe is fat


oops just delayed ep3 for another year
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« Reply #229 on: December 07, 2010, 01:54:18 PM »
Quick favour to ask. Can anyone gift me Poker Night? My credit card is on hold right now so I can't purchase it >:(
Promise to get you something groovy in return.

I will, add me as a friend or PM me your Steam e-mail

already done!

FU

I'm gonna send you a game as revenge

...as soon as you friend me :gloomy

haha, you don't have to do that, but i'll add you!
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« Reply #230 on: December 07, 2010, 02:45:47 PM »
Quick favour to ask. Can anyone gift me Poker Night? My credit card is on hold right now so I can't purchase it >:(
Promise to get you something groovy in return.

I will, add me as a friend or PM me your Steam e-mail

already done!

FU

I'm gonna send you a game as revenge

...as soon as you friend me :gloomy

haha, you don't have to do that, but i'll add you!

is it possible to gift a game to a Steam name if they're not your friend? I know you can gift to random emailz
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archie4208

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Re: Steam Holiday Sales (11/29: Nothing good. See you at the Christmas sale!)
« Reply #231 on: December 07, 2010, 02:48:00 PM »
gabe is fat


oops just delayed ep3 for another year

Thank you.  Valve needs to work on DotA 2 anyway. 

Eel O'Brian

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Re: Steam Holiday Sales (11/29: Nothing good. See you at the Christmas sale!)
« Reply #232 on: December 07, 2010, 02:48:00 PM »
no, they have to be on your friend list if you're not sending via email
sup

Howard Alan Treesong

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Re: Steam Holiday Sales (Some treasure hunt thing is going on)
« Reply #233 on: December 07, 2010, 02:56:21 PM »
I don't like sending to e-mail cause I'm not sure what e-mail address people have associated with their STEAM account

anyway, game 4 u
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pilonv1

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Re: Steam Holiday Sales (Some treasure hunt thing is going on)
« Reply #234 on: December 07, 2010, 05:09:43 PM »
is poker night any good, btw?

It's fun for about 30 minutes. Heavy & Gabe talking about rare drops & hats is funny. The poker itself is terrible because it's so random. You just have to hope for the best.
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Howard Alan Treesong

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Re: Steam Holiday Sales (Some treasure hunt thing is going on)
« Reply #235 on: December 07, 2010, 05:17:25 PM »
is poker night any good, btw?

It's fun for about 30 minutes. Heavy & Gabe talking about rare drops & hats is funny. The poker itself is terrible because it's so random. You just have to hope for the best.

the bigger problem is the shitty difficulty curve

"Normal" is "you always win"
"Hard" is "you always lose"

In a realistic poker sim with four computer opponents, you will only win 20% of the time. Even a great poker player isn't gonna go above 50%. Who wants to play a computer game where you lose more often than you win - and that's if you're a pro?
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cool breeze

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Re: Steam Holiday Sales (Some treasure hunt thing is going on)
« Reply #236 on: December 07, 2010, 05:23:27 PM »
I ended up buying it anyway.  I blame archie.

how do you get the iron curtain?

cool breeze

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Re: Steam Holiday Sales (Some treasure hunt thing is going on)
« Reply #237 on: December 07, 2010, 05:52:10 PM »
this game is too slow and the computer is a cheating bastard.  only strong bad and max win, and that was for the iron curtain too.


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Re: Steam Holiday Sales (Some treasure hunt thing is going on)
« Reply #238 on: December 07, 2010, 05:58:38 PM »
The trick to beating the computer at least on normal is if you have a shitty hand and the cpu has no money then bluff and raise by like $5,000.  If the cpu has more than 10k that doesn't work though.  So my trick is to win the first bunch of hands by bluffing unless I have a really good card in which case I bet very little and let everyone else raise so they don't fold out too early.  Anyhow if you win the first few hands and have 15-20k and everyone else is 5-8k it's pretty easy to bluff out everyone for the remaining matches.  Even if they call you on it and you lose it'll only be a few thousand and you have plenty to spare.

Still this doesn't always work.  And if you're aiming for a specific item it's just luck.  Took me like an hour and dozens of matches to get that stupid Iron Curtain yesterday.  If you have a bad hand and heavy goes all in along with another cpu or two you just have to hope either heavy wins or you get a miracle and win and everyone else was bluffing.   :-\

That being said I do like how you unlock different card sets and tables as you play.  Plus a lot of the dialogue is enjoyable, although when I was going for iron curtain I told them all to stfu so I could go as fast as possible.

pilonv1

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Re: Steam Holiday Sales (Some treasure hunt thing is going on)
« Reply #239 on: December 07, 2010, 06:04:18 PM »
Right click to make it go faster.

Fold if you don't have anything. It's not worth wasting your time.

If the CPU keeps matching your raise they have a good hand so be careful.

In the end it is dumb luck on normal. There's no tells or strategy to it.
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