Nintendo 3DS thread

[Chinner]

GAME have set it to £230. So it looks like UK price will be £230.

PASS.

[Mr. Gundam]

$250 isn't too bad. Now all I need is a must-own game like Ouendan or Trauma Center.

Too bad it would be region-locked.

[cool breeze]

there are some cool features with the ds software, like you can go into the menu while playing a game and write down notes. 

$250 isn't too bad. Now all I need is a must-own game like Ouendan or Trauma Center.

Too bad it would be region-locked.

yeah, I was looking at scans of the Gundam 3D battle game and thought about importing it, but I guess not. 

[magus]

didn't nintendo 64 come packed in with mario kart 64?

[maxy]

Facts from Nintendo

    Launch Date: March 25,03 2011
    Price: Pricing is determined

    Included in Hardware:
    • Nintendo 3DS system
    • Nintendo 3DS charging cradle
    • Nintendo 3DS AC adapter
    • Nintendo 3DS stylus
    • SD Memory Card (2GB)
    • AR Card(s) (view the cards using the outer cameras to play supported AR games)
    • Quick-Start Guide
    • Operations Manual (including warranty)

    Characteristic Features:
    • 3D screen, enabling 3D view without the need for special glasses and the ability to adjust
    or turn off 3D effect with the 3D Depth Slider.
    • Stereo cameras that enable users to take 3D photos that can be viewed instantly on the 3D
    screen.
    • New input interfaces including the Circle Pad, motion sensor, gyro sensor
    • SpotPass, a feature that lets Nintendo 3DS detect wireless hotspots or wireless LAN access
    points and obtain information, game data, free software, videos and so on for players even
    when the system is in sleep mode.*
    • StreetPass, a feature that lets Nintendo 3DS exchange data automatically with other
    Nintendo 3DS systems within range, even in sleep mode once this feature is activated by
    the user. Data for multiple games can be exchanged simultaneously.
    • Convenient features that users can access without stopping game play such as the HOME
    menu, Internet Brower, Notifications, etc.
    • Plenty of built-in software such as the Nintendo 3DS Camera, Nintendo 3DS Sound, Mii
    Maker, StreetPass, Mii Plaza, AR Games, Activity Log, Face Raiders, etc.
    • Nintendo eShop where users can view trailers, software rankings and purchase software.
    • System Transfer which enable users to transfer already purchased software from one
    Nintendo 3DS system to another. DSiWare purchased for the Nintendo DSi or the Nintendo
    DSi XL can also be transferred into a Nintendo 3DS system.**
    • Compatibility functions where both new software designed for Nintendo 3DS and most
    software for the Nintendo DS family of systems can be played.
    • Parental Controls which enable parents to restrict game

    *Some of these features may not be available at launch
    **There is a limit to how many times transfers can be made. Some software may not be transferred.
    ***Additional features added through system updates may also be subject to Parental Controls.
    Some of these features such as the Internet browser, Nintendo eShop, system transfer and the ability
    to download software and videos using SpotPass will be available after system updates are performed

    _________________________________________

    Size (when closed): 2.9 inches high, 5.3 inches long, 0.8 inches deep.
    Weight: Approximately 8 ounces (including battery pack, stylus, SD memory card).

    Upper Screen:
    Wide-screen LCD display, enabling 3D view without the need for special glasses. Capable of
    displaying approximately 16.77 million colors. 3.53 inches display (3.02 inches wide, 1.81
    inches high) with 800 x 240 pixel resolution. 400 pixels are allocated to each eye to enable 3D
    viewing.

    Lower Screen:
    LCD with a touch screen capable of displaying 16.77 million colors. 3.02 inches (2.42 inches
    wide, 1.81 inches high) with 320 x 240 pixel resolution.

    Cameras:
    One inner camera and two outer cameras. Resolutions are 640 x 480 for each camera. Lens are single focus and uses the CMOS capture element. The active pixel count is approximately 300,000 pixels.

    Wireless Communication:
    2.4 GHz. Enabling local wireless communication among multiple Nintendo 3DS systems for
    game play and StreetPass. Enabling access to the Internet through wireless LAN access points
    (supports IEEE802.11 b/g with the WPA™/WPA2™ security feature). Recommended distance of
    wireless communication is within 98.4 feet. This can be shorter depending on the enviromental
    situation. WPA and WPA2 are marks of the Wi-Fi Alliance.

    Input Controls: Input controls are the following:
    • A/B/X/Y Button, +Control Pad, L/R Button, START/SELECT
    • Circle Pad (enabling 360-degree analog input)
    • Touch screen
    • Embedded microphone
    • Camera
    • Motion sensor
    • Gyro sensor

    Other Input Controls: Other input controls are the following:
    • 3D Depth Slider (enabling smooth adjustment of the 3D level effect)
    • HOME Button (brings up the HOME menu)
    • Wireless switch (can disable wireless functionality even during game play)
    • POWER button

    Connector: Connector includes:
    • Game Card slot
    • SD Card slot
    • Cradle connector
    • AC adapter connector
    • Audio jack (stereo output)

[magus]

HERE IT IS! THE RUMORED METROID FOOTAGE!

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they would have banned me for such a joke on gaf

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[ManaByte]

didn't nintendo 64 come packed in with mario kart 64?

No.

[Bebpo]

I pre-ordered one because you don't have to pay until ship, so it gives me time to figure out if I want one (and to see if the hack it for region free).

But looking at the launch lineup...ugh.  Nothing I want besides Icarus and maybe Pilotwings if it's as good as the SNES one and not just fueled by nostalgia. 

[demi]

uh... it aint gonna hacked before launch.

[maxy]

games

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[Bebpo]

uh... it aint gonna hacked before launch.

Wasn't the DS?

[Diunx]

I can't believe people are willing to pay $40 bucks for the mercenaries mini game smh.

[Bebpo]

Yeah, it's pretty silly.  I play that mode a few times after each recent RE and then I'm over it.  Would never buy it separately, even if it was like $15 on XBLA/PSN.

[Trent Dole]

Go to hell, Nintendo.

[SantaC]

uh... it aint gonna hacked before launch.

Wasn't the DS?

nope, it took them a while, and the first cards were passme crap

[Shaka Khan]

I'm gonna get a 3DS day 1, not because I'm interested in the launch (window) games, but because I really need a DS. I've missed out on almost two years worth of DS games.

[Raban]

Then get a DSi on the cheap.

[magus]

I'm gonna get a 3DS day 1, not because I'm interested in the launch (window) games, but because I really need a DS. I've missed out on almost two years worth of DS games.

not sure you missed much unless you like adventure games

[demi]

magus is also jaded. Plenty to play.

[cool breeze]

according to destructoid (so rumored, I guess) this is the launch line up:

* Pilotwings Resort
* Nintendo Dogs + Cats
* Steeldiver
* Dead or Alive
* Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 3D
* Madden NFL
* Super Street Fighter IV 3D
* Asphalt 3D
* Combat of Giants: Dinosaurs 3D
* Ridge Racer 3D
* Resident Evil: The Mercenaries
* LEGO Star Wars III: The Clone Wars

Pilot Wings is the only one I want, but the two maybes are RE Mercs and Ridge Racer.  All three are maybes, to be honest.

Pilot Wings video looks like it could be the boring wii sports resort stuff from videos.  RE Mercs looks off in recent videos; I'm fine with real mercs as a full game since I really liked The Club, but yeah, the videos looked wrong.  Ridge Racer looks worse than the PSP games.

Nintendo doesn't really have any solid looking games for release.  I guess they want to capture the nintendo dogs and wii crowd earlier on, I guess.  Rest of the games are ports or seem rushed.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I am going ot get one because I have never seen 3D outside of Universal Studios and Disney World the one time I went, so this is designed for people like me who don't have 3D theatres in the close vicinit (nearest is 4 hours away) so im super fucking pumped. Hope the movies look alright.

[Mr. Gundam]

there are some cool features with the ds software, like you can go into the menu while playing a game and write down notes. 

$250 isn't too bad. Now all I need is a must-own game like Ouendan or Trauma Center.

Too bad it would be region-locked.

yeah, I was looking at scans of the Gundam 3D battle game and thought about importing it, but I guess not. 

That game looks like they took the PSX CCA and Zeta games and threw them on a 3DS cart.

[cool breeze]

there are some cool features with the ds software, like you can go into the menu while playing a game and write down notes. 

$250 isn't too bad. Now all I need is a must-own game like Ouendan or Trauma Center.

Too bad it would be region-locked.

yeah, I was looking at scans of the Gundam 3D battle game and thought about importing it, but I guess not. 

That game looks like they took the PSX CCA and Zeta games and threw them on a 3DS cart.

haha I made that same comparison before and it's why I want it.  CCA for PS1 was one of my first import games.  The intro cinematic was incredible.

[Diunx]

I am going ot get one because I have never seen 3D outside of Universal Studios and Disney World the one time I went, so this is designed for people like me who don't have 3D theatres in the close vicinit (nearest is 4 hours away) so im super fucking pumped. Hope the movies look alright.

just go to best buy and ask one of the tech guys to give you some 3d glasses to try the TVs dude.

[magus]

magus is also jaded. Plenty to play.

true that

[Madrun Badrun]

Launch sucks.  Will wait for the next version.

[Raban]

Launch sucks.  Will wait for the next version.

Smart man.

[Bebpo]

Icarus isn't launch?  Wtf

[maxy]

It looks like UK price will be about £230
Some retailers give like 4% discount(£220)

Games are £40

[EmCeeGrammar]

Emcee are you buying it at launch instead of your iPod?

Ocarina of time was good man.

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In 1998

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Its kind of hilarious the DS launched with Mario 64 in 2004 and its succesor launches 7 years later in 2011 and its flagship title is another Nintendo 64 remake and the console itself is as expensive as the N64 was 

I think 40 bucks is too much for console games, even though I'm usually not patient enough to wait for the pricedrop.  Its definitely too much for handheld stuff.  Like I've said, portable gaming is only practical for quick play bursts outside of the home, so I'd rather pay for the few cheap apps that have good controls (tilt to live, flight control).  Most of the 3ds stuff that looks cool would play better with a wiimote anyway. Maybe theyll get around to motionplus Pilotwings one day.

[EmCeeGrammar]

HERE IT IS! THE RUMORED METROID FOOTAGE!

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[youtube=560,345]#at=33[/youtube]

they would have banned me for such a joke on gaf

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Holy shit, team ninja just trolled the world. Seriously, FUCK THEM.

[Shaka Khan]

Shit, Nintendo must be losing barrels of money on this thing right out of the gate.

You really think so? I wonder what's the manufacturing cost of the thing. Can't be $300, right?

[Sho Nuff]

Shit, Nintendo must be losing barrels of money on this thing right out of the gate.

I'm not sure about that. The dual ARM CPU's are pretty cheap and the GPU they're using is from some Japanese company I've never heard of, I'm sure pricing corners were cut. The display's only 800x240 + 320x240 and the 3D hoohah tech is just a piece of plastic. Twin cheap CMOS cameras...something tells me that they are going to be making cash on every one sold.

[Bebpo]

Nintendo never loses money on products

[EmCeeGrammar]

Nintendo never loses money on products

Nonsense, I'm fairly certain they lost money on publishing Sin and Punishment 2.

They were losing money on every Wii sold just last year.

Not the Japanese ones!

[Shaka Khan]

Well the difference between between the US and JP prices is kind of alarming, and if that's not chalked up to exchange rates, then I don't know how it can be explained. As far as I know the package is almost the same.

They were losing money on every Wii sold just last year.

Wut?

[Howard Alan Treesong]

get out of here, mathman

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[EmCeeGrammar]

Well the difference between between the US and JP prices is kind of alarming, and if that's not chalked up to exchange rates, then I don't know how it should be explained. As far as I know the package is almost the same.

They were losing money on every Wii sold just last year.

Wut?

Nintendo had its first quarter of loss in a long time last year.  This is attributed to them not selling enough Wiis in their home country to offset the losses incurred by the exchange rates.

[Shaka Khan]

get out of here, mathman

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omg blast from the past.

[Sho Nuff]

This was the Wii cost breakdown from Toyokeizai:

Graphics chip: $29.60
CPU: $13
DRAM: $7.80
DVD drive: $31
Power Supply: $11.30
Manufacturing; $19.50
Total: $158.30

Note: THAT COST BREAKDOWN WAS FROM 2006. The Wii has got to be shit cheap to manufacture now, and I am dubious of any Nintendo claims that they're losing money on the hardware even with a brutal exchange rate.

[EmCeeGrammar]

This was the Wii cost breakdown from Toyokeizai:

Graphics chip: $29.60
CPU: $13
DRAM: $7.80
DVD drive: $31
Power Supply: $11.30
Manufacturing; $19.50
Total: $158.30

Note: THAT COST BREAKDOWN WAS FROM 2006. The Wii has got to be shit cheap to manufacture now, and I am dubious of any Nintendo claims that they're losing money on the hardware even with a brutal exchange rate.

Dude, their financials are reported every quarter.  They lost money last year in spite of their healthy sales outside of japan.  You're also not factoring in costs of the controllers and the included software.

MAYBE r and d costs are eating into their profits to a detrimental effect, but I'll take their word for it that its the exchange rate.

[Don Flamenco]

The system's price is a little high, but not unexpected.  

The launch line up just kinda sucks.  The only three games I can see myself enjoying are rehashes.  I can wait to play DOA.  SSFIV looks awesome, but since I play portables at home, I have no reason to play that version over a real version.  Mercs is a little tempting, but it's not anything I'd want to pay full price for.  

But I'm ordering two systems in case these things sell out and start selling at ridiculous prices on amazon/ebay.  

Maybe I'll get one later in the year when MGS, Revelations, and Zelda are out.  

[magus]

http://nintendo3dsblog.com/first-screenshots-of-rayman-3d-2

ahahahahahahahahahahahah
3DS has to be the worst console ever!

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i hope the news isn't fake

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[Bebpo]

Why do you hate Rayman magus 

[EmCeeGrammar]

Rayman is lame.  Typical  goofy european shit character design.

See also: Rare

[cool breeze]

I'll probably buy Rayman 3DS...because my copy of Rayman 2 DS was bought during a trip to Italy  :'( (also Rayman 2 DS is a horrible port)

[Bebpo]

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I count 5 games in there I would buy (KH, Icarus, RE Revelation, Paper Mario, MGS3-again).  First year of 3DS is going to be the dumps.  Hope they have better software by 2012.  PSP still seems to be where all the big handheld games are for at least the first half of 2011.

[maxy]

3DS is really shaping to be the pinnacle of gaming

Target audience is obviously someone that has lots of money,has 3D fetish,loves ports and dreams about Ubisoft games

btw,saw something on gaf about 3DS Pikmin game

[Phoenix Dark]

get out of here, mathman

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wow

[Don Flamenco]

3DS is really shaping to be the pinnacle of gaming

Target audience is obviously someone that has lots of money,has 3D fetish,loves ports and dreams about Ubisoft games

btw,saw something on gaf about 3DS Pikmin game

E3: OMG MGS3, MAINLINE RE, RE MERCS, SSFIV, DOA, ZELDA OOT REMAKE, STARFOX 64 REMAKE, ETC. ETC. ETC. ALL AT LAUNCH!!!!!!!!!

Today: lol no

[magus]

Why do you hate Rayman magus 

oh no i never played rayman 2 it's just that there was already a rayman 2 port for the DS and i heard it was abyssymal and now they are doing it again on a portable that has already racked like (let me count them...) 7 ports already out of 20 titles announced

it's really kind of ridiculous

seriously the gba at least had fucking megaman battle network!

[Damian79]

Isnt papar mario going to be released inthe launch window?

[maxy]

Joystiq has made some partial list

First-Party Launch Window Titles

    * Nintendogs + cats
    * Pilotwings Resort
    * Steel Diver


Third-Party Titles "Coming Soon" (Partial List)

    * Asphal 3D (Ubisoft)
    * Bust-a-Move Universe (Square Enix)
    * Combat of Giants: Dinosaurs 3D (Ubisoft)
    * Crush 3D (Sega)
    * Dead or Alive Dimensions (Tecmo Koei)
    * Dual Pen Sport (Namco Bandai)
    * Lego Star Wars 3: The Clone Wars (LucasArts)
    * Madden NFL Football (EA Sports)
    * Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 3D (Konami)
    * Rabbids Travel in Time (Ubisoft)
    * Rayman 3D (Ubisoft)
    * Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D (Capcom)
    * Ridge Racer 3D (Namco Bandai)
    * Samurai Warriors Chronicles (Tecmo Koei)
    * Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked (Atlus)
    * The Sims 3 (EA)
    * Super Monkey Ball 3D (Sega)
    * Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition (Capcom)
    * Thor: God of Thunder (Sega)
    * Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Shadow Wars (Ubisoft)
    * Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 3D (Ubisoft)


First-Party Titles "In the Works"

    * Animal Crossing game
    * Kid Icarus: Uprising
    * The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
    * Mario Kart game
    * Paper Mario game
    * Star Fox 64 3D

[Corporal]

Man, I kind of hope Nintendo crashes and burns with this. A 300€ handheld? For these games? For that hardware? With region locks? Heaping helping of Humble pie desperately needed.

But oh well, DS turned out fine too, so maybe it "just isn't for me"® right now.

At least they finally caved in and gave us per-system Friend codes. FINALLY. Still won't help their entirely unappealing online strategy tho.

[maxy]

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[pilonv1]

how could anyone be interested in this. buy a 360

[maxy]

Engadget preview

As for the screen, in 2D mode the colors stand out and it's pretty crisp, but even a slight nudge on the 3D depth slider makes for a whole different experience. The viewing angle, which we actually commend during its two-dimensional presentation, drops to single-degree acceptability when the parallax display is put to use -- moving even just a little would cause the screen the flicker and the 3D effect to be lost or too muddled to enjoy. Expect to keep your arms locked in place while playing, and we'd advise against anyone trying to look over your shoulder to follow along. What's more, there's no instruction or guidance on how to adjust the depth slider for your eyes, and each game requires a seemingly different setting, so you end up fiddling with it a lot -- to what can be quite painful results. Our own Nilay Patel has had a headache since this morning's playing session, as has columnist-at-large Michael Gartenberg. We'd suggest Nintendo require each game to pop up a calibration screen with some saved settings that disable the slider -- otherwise we can see a lot of players just disabling 3D entirely.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/nintendo-3ds-in-depth-preview-slight-return-video/

nice tech but this needs to be user friendly as much as possible

EU event was 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D....3D 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D 3D

[EmCeeGrammar]

I just realised there is no achievement system in place. Blessing in disguise.

[EmCeeGrammar]

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This looks like fun. Rabbids Go Home was a good game so there's always potential for another solid entry using these characters.

[maxy]

Another Ubisoft game
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