Author Topic: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread (Read 368458 times)

bork · « **Reply #720 on:** April 08, 2012, 09:10:08 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on April 08, 2012, 05:29:33 PM

Eh, FoTNS is good for FoTNS fans and very accurate to the show. One Piece is good for OP fans and very accurate to the show. If you aren't a fan of either series and just look at them as musou games, they don't really compare to the quality of something like WO3.

I don't think they are bad games, but in the lower tier than the A team games.

How much of those two games have you played?

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #721 on:** April 08, 2012, 10:40:30 PM »

FotNS was great, the demo was meh but I finished the main story of the game and loved it.

Himu · « **Reply #722 on:** April 08, 2012, 10:44:01 PM »

I thought bebpo said OP Musou is great

Bebpo · « **Reply #723 on:** April 08, 2012, 10:50:05 PM »

It has good parts and bad parts.

bork · « **Reply #724 on:** April 09, 2012, 11:35:45 AM »

Quote from: lyte edge on April 08, 2012, 09:10:08 PM

Quote from: Bebpo on April 08, 2012, 05:29:33 PM
Eh, FoTNS is good for FoTNS fans and very accurate to the show. One Piece is good for OP fans and very accurate to the show. If you aren't a fan of either series and just look at them as musou games, they don't really compare to the quality of something like WO3.

I don't think they are bad games, but in the lower tier than the A team games.

How much of those two games have you played?

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bork · « **Reply #725 on:** April 09, 2012, 04:20:45 PM »

Guess not much at all.

So why are you ranking them?

Bebpo · « **Reply #726 on:** April 09, 2012, 06:49:22 PM »

Played them enough to see what is good/bad about them.

Are you seriously going to argue that license aside, FoTNS is as good as the best DW/WO games? I love OP and I'm certainly not going to argue OP is as good as those. FoTNS/OP have tiny rosters compared to the big meaty DW/SW/WO/GM games.

You seem to be ignoring that I think FoTNS & OP are good musou games. Just between the team that does SW/DW/WO/GM and the team that does FoTNS/OP, I think the former is the A-team and the latter is the B-team.

Himu · « **Reply #727 on:** April 09, 2012, 06:50:51 PM »

dwg1 wasn't that great either

Trent Dole · « **Reply #728 on:** April 09, 2012, 06:53:27 PM »

Apparently the Musou Battlefields feature is kinda busted on 360 since there's supposedly NO created stages up to DL.

Bebpo · « **Reply #729 on:** April 09, 2012, 07:00:32 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on April 09, 2012, 06:50:51 PM

dwg1 wasn't that great either

I agree. It didn't really reach A-tier quality until DWG3. I'm sure if they do more OP/FoTNS it'll just keep getting better and better.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #730 on:** April 09, 2012, 07:02:06 PM »

Has anyone tried the custom orochi 3 map stuff? Good bad? I havent bothered- grindan bonds in main campaign.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #731 on:** April 09, 2012, 07:03:57 PM »

WAIT. A fuck second. DWG1 was better than 2 entirely, and in some ways is better than 3.

DWG1 has the superior story and charactarization. In mission events meant more and the game was just incredibly charming. DWG3 is superior to all three in terms of mechanics, but like 2, without a soul.

I traded in DWG2, kept 1 and 3.

Himu · « **Reply #732 on:** April 09, 2012, 07:05:18 PM »

agreed about story in regards to dwg1. but we're talking about the gameplay for the most part.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #733 on:** April 09, 2012, 07:06:36 PM »

DWG2 gameplay was busted weird asian grinding adventure. The mechanics weren't that much more evolved either. Playing it was a CHORE.

Himu · « **Reply #734 on:** April 09, 2012, 07:07:21 PM »

haven't played dwg2

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #735 on:** April 09, 2012, 07:12:57 PM »

Its really bad imo

Bebpo · « **Reply #736 on:** April 09, 2012, 07:20:07 PM »

DWG2 was terrible, yeah. I liked 1 a lot, but overall 3 is a way better game. The only place where 3 is weaker is story. The roster & gameplay are sooooo much better than DWG1.

DWG1 has my favorite cutscenes in any musou game to date.

Himu · « **Reply #737 on:** April 09, 2012, 07:21:40 PM »

DW7 has the best cutscenes.

SUN CE.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #738 on:** April 09, 2012, 07:28:56 PM »

1 and 3 are worth owning- 2 is not. I hated 2 the more I played it. I had to defend 1 though- it was a fun ride.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #739 on:** April 09, 2012, 11:41:26 PM »

I thought DWG1 was the best because I like the large, expansive maps, even if some concepts appeared half baked. DWG3 felt claustrophobic by comparison but was otherwise an excellent game. DWG2 was a really awful version of DWG3. I think we can all agree that part 2 is the worst.

Himu · « **Reply #740 on:** April 09, 2012, 11:45:31 PM »

Holy shit chapter 3 in WO3 is AMAZING.

bork · « **Reply #741 on:** April 09, 2012, 11:49:26 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on April 09, 2012, 06:49:22 PM

Played them enough to see what is good/bad about them.

You said a few pages back that these games were in your backlog. I still want to know how much you played...playing some of Ken's story mode and not playing the other main mode is not enough when it comes to FoTNS, for example.

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Are you seriously going to argue that license aside, FoTNS is as good as the best DW/WO games? I love OP and I'm certainly not going to argue OP is as good as those. FoTNS/OP have tiny rosters compared to the big meaty DW/SW/WO/GM games.

FoTNS has HUGE skill trees for its characters though. It takes way, way longer to build someone up and the difference between the characters is more noticeable.

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You seem to be ignoring that I think FoTNS & OP are good musou games. Just between the team that does SW/DW/WO/GM and the team that does FoTNS/OP, I think the former is the A-team and the latter is the B-team.

I'm not ignoring it...I'm still waiting for you to say how much you have played these games.

I played the shit out of FoTNS -and still have a bunch of stuff I could do in the game- and actually do put it up there with the best. I loved it...bought all the DLC for it too...some of the challenge maps are brutal.

I haven't played enough of One Piece, on the other hand, to completely judge it, but while it seems to be a fun little romp, it really feels lacking compared to pretty much all the other musou games that I have played. Gundam and Hokuto did it better.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #742 on:** April 10, 2012, 12:28:13 AM »

Quote from: The Experiment on April 09, 2012, 11:41:26 PM

I thought DWG1 was the best because I like the large, expansive maps, even if some concepts appeared half baked. DWG3 felt claustrophobic by comparison but was otherwise an excellent game. DWG2 was a really awful version of DWG3. I think we can all agree that part 2 is the worst.

I'll give you all of that- I did like the larger maps of the original. DWG1 was a lot of oldskool musou- where 3 borrows from a lot of the empires and later dw/sw games. I will say they totally did us a solid by including so many dlc gundams from the latest series

Bebpo · « **Reply #743 on:** April 10, 2012, 12:28:34 AM »

Quote from: lyte edge on April 09, 2012, 11:49:26 PM

Quote from: Bebpo on April 09, 2012, 06:49:22 PM
Played them enough to see what is good/bad about them.

You said a few pages back that these games were in your backlog. I still want to know how much you played...playing some of Ken's story mode and not playing the other main mode is not enough when it comes to FoTNS, for example.

Probably ~5 hours.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #744 on:** April 10, 2012, 12:28:59 AM »

I honestly think FotNS Musou is as good as a FotNS game will EVER get.

bork · « **Reply #745 on:** April 10, 2012, 08:12:44 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on April 10, 2012, 12:28:34 AM

Quote from: lyte edge on April 09, 2012, 11:49:26 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on April 09, 2012, 06:49:22 PM
Played them enough to see what is good/bad about them.

You said a few pages back that these games were in your backlog. I still want to know how much you played...playing some of Ken's story mode and not playing the other main mode is not enough when it comes to FoTNS, for example.

Probably ~5 hours.

But what did that entail? Was it just the story mode?

A lot of people wrote the game off because of how Kenshiro plays in the beginning of the story mode or seem to think everyone plays like he does.

Anyway, the big thing here is that FoTNS has a Musou mode....One Piece seems to just be the story mode and that's it. That's disappointing.

Quote from: MrAngryFace on April 10, 2012, 12:28:59 AM

I honestly think FotNS Musou is as good as a FotNS game will EVER get.

The Arc System Works fighting game had way more fan service going on, but yeah, FoTNS by Koei really nailed some stuff. I guess they could do another game based on the later storylines but I'd rather see them Musou-ify something else.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #746 on:** April 11, 2012, 02:00:48 AM »

Ginchiyo's laser sword shit is so fuckin awesome. Fucking arc, range, AND invincible during the animation. just pump up her musou gauge max and go to town

Himu · « **Reply #747 on:** April 11, 2012, 02:02:26 AM »

Nobunaga is the MAN.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #748 on:** April 11, 2012, 02:05:40 AM »

They totally re-tuned the battle of Yiling though- in the original version the maze had a shitload of annoying traps and you had to fight Yue Ying iirc. Probably for the best, the maze was just endless dart traps n shit. Maybe its all there in the hardest mode? I dunno

Himu · « **Reply #749 on:** April 11, 2012, 12:27:42 PM »

HOLY FUCK AT THE BOAT WEAPON

bork · « **Reply #750 on:** April 11, 2012, 12:34:28 PM »

Damn, might be time to buy DW7 XL!

Himu · « **Reply #751 on:** April 11, 2012, 01:55:50 PM »

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/04/11/one-piece-pirate-warriors-stretching-to-north-america/

bork · « **Reply #752 on:** April 11, 2012, 05:34:05 PM »

Looks to be digital download only again for PS3 in North America.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #753 on:** April 11, 2012, 05:36:26 PM »

im glad they're taking the cheaper localization route if it means 360 actually gets stuff brought over. I mean yeah id love the hilarious dubs but you take what you can get I guess

Himu · « **Reply #754 on:** April 11, 2012, 06:57:58 PM »

Quote from: lyte edge on April 11, 2012, 05:34:05 PM

Looks to be digital download only again for PS3 in North America.

they're fighting for both physical and digital because One Piece is popular enough for it in america

Himu · « **Reply #755 on:** April 12, 2012, 12:08:59 PM »

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/04/11/one-piece-pirate-warriors-sails-to-north-america-this-year/

ps3 only, digital only

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #756 on:** April 12, 2012, 12:14:36 PM »

Why would it get a 360 version? That doesn't exist.

This digital only BS is stupid.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #757 on:** April 12, 2012, 12:28:44 PM »

Im talking about Orochi 3- mostly- there wasn't a 360 version and then they made a cheap one for us.

Himu · « **Reply #758 on:** April 12, 2012, 12:34:36 PM »

DW7 jp didn't have a 360 version either.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #759 on:** April 12, 2012, 12:50:14 PM »

but dw7xtreme didnt come over on 360 fuuuuuu

Himu · « **Reply #760 on:** April 12, 2012, 01:02:18 PM »

it was also an expansion, so not much was lost!

bork · « **Reply #761 on:** April 12, 2012, 04:18:11 PM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on April 12, 2012, 12:28:44 PM

Im talking about Orochi 3- mostly- there wasn't a 360 version and then they made a cheap one for us.

AFAIK DW7XL and Kaizoku Musou are the only two musou games that the 360 didn't get, with DW7 not being released in Japan for 360 for whatever reason.

Himu · « **Reply #762 on:** April 12, 2012, 04:20:54 PM »

DW7 didn't come out in Japan on 360.

bork · « **Reply #763 on:** April 12, 2012, 04:21:55 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on April 12, 2012, 04:20:54 PM

DW7 didn't come out in Japan on 360.

Which makes no sense.

"Fuck 360 for our biggest musou, but let's give 'em Orochi Musou 2!"

Then you have Capcom, who releases Sengoku Basara for like every platform EXCEPT the 360.

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MrAngryFace · « **Reply #764 on:** April 12, 2012, 04:46:56 PM »

didnt they say XL didnt come to 360 cause of voice loc costs- yet DWGundam 3 which has way more (and probably more expensive) voice came over

Himu · « **Reply #765 on:** April 12, 2012, 04:59:45 PM »

why couldn't they put it on xbla

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #766 on:** April 13, 2012, 12:18:33 AM »

Anyone having trouble with the battle near the end with the two hydra heads and the lame cannon?

Himu · « **Reply #767 on:** April 13, 2012, 01:36:52 AM »

No, I beat it without beating chapter 3, got the normal ending. Just takes patience.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #768 on:** April 14, 2012, 02:46:49 PM »

Maxed out my Zhou Tai

Ginchiyo and Nemea aren't far behind. There is still a lot of game left for me to go through.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #769 on:** April 17, 2012, 11:58:44 AM »

So One Piece Musou isn't a digital only release in North America...

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Arriving in November 2012 as a simultaneous digital and Blu-ray release, PS3-exclusive One Piece: Pirate Warriors takes the insanely popular manga/anime series to new heights in this stylized brawler.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/...kuni-and-more/

bork · « **Reply #770 on:** April 17, 2012, 05:59:21 PM »

November? Guess I don't mind having imported after all.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #771 on:** April 21, 2012, 04:53:10 PM »

Quote from: The Experiment on April 14, 2012, 02:46:49 PM

Maxed out my Zhou Tai Ginchiyo and Nemea aren't far behind. There is still a lot of game left for me to go through.

Maxed out Zhou Tai, Ginchiyo Tachibana, and Nemea.

I decided to go with an all female group: Joan of Arc, Nene, and Sun Shang Xiang. Joan of Arc and Sun Shang Xiang already have four star weapons with lots of attributes courtesy of the lottery so I'm kicking ass with this trio already.

I'm about a third of the way through the Story Mode.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #772 on:** April 22, 2012, 10:59:04 PM »

Spent several hours getting the rare items with a guide today and I still have like 10+ more to get. This game never ends.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #773 on:** May 08, 2012, 10:28:17 PM »

Sengoku Basara HD Collection this August.

http://andriasang.com/con0xb/sengoku_basara_hd_date/

bork · « **Reply #774 on:** May 08, 2012, 11:20:14 PM »

bork · « **Reply #775 on:** May 08, 2012, 11:28:26 PM »

Musou Orochi 2 (Warriors Orochi 3) is coming out this summer for...

...PSP. $:-\$ Rachel from Ninja Gaiden will be added.

http://andriasang.com/con0xc/musou_orochi_2_psp/

First Sengoku Musou 3Z for PSP, now this. Damn it Koei- release this for VITA.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #776 on:** May 08, 2012, 11:30:50 PM »

3Z was a pretty solid title but I think it will be hard to go back to any Musou title after Orochi 3.

Bebpo · « **Reply #777 on:** May 09, 2012, 12:20:23 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on May 08, 2012, 10:28:17 PM

Sengoku Basara HD Collection this August.

http://andriasang.com/con0xb/sengoku_basara_hd_date/

I dunno why anyone would play SB1/2 when 3 exists.

I guess SB2 for the stories and any characters that didn't make it over to 3, but there is zero reason to ever touch SB1. It's such an inferior game to 2/3.

bork · « **Reply #778 on:** May 09, 2012, 12:46:42 PM »

SB2/Heroes for the stories and more playable characters and modes.

Definitely no point in playing SB1. I didn't even like that game very much when I tried it. Capcom improved parts of it when they localized as Devil Kings. Never played that version so I don't know what was changed.

And why not make it a complete package by throwing in Basara X?

bork · « **Reply #779 on:** May 09, 2012, 12:58:26 PM »

http://andriasang.com/con0y1/images/23xz2/full.jpg

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